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“Made in Vietnam”: People’s Army Moves to New Small Arms

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“Made in Vietnam”: People’s Army Moves to New Small Arms

Vietnamese media launch a show that will showcase samples of the new rifle weaponsdesigned to replace Soviet and Russian systems. The new telecast is intended to convey to the audience the essence of the “Made in Vietnam” program implemented by the government.


The prospectuses of the upcoming show already allow us to consider some types of weapons that the People’s Army intends to switch to.

The famous actress Miyika in Vietnam is holding a brand new STV-380 assault rifle. The weapon is derived from Galil ACE, while having a number of features caused by the requirements of the Vietnamese military: the bolt is shifted to the right, the selector of the fire type (“translator”) is made in the Kalashnikov style, a folding stock, a thinner handle “for small Vietnamese hands”, barrel length reduced from 409 mm to 380 mm.



According to VietDefense, the STV-380 is already mass-produced. It is assumed that the STV-380 7,62x39 mm assault rifle will become the main weapon of the Vietnamese scouts and commandos.

Since 2014, all new items have been produced at the Z111 factory under a license obtained from the Israeli company Galil ACE. At the same time, a number of changes are made to the design of weapons.

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  1. Catfish
    Catfish 8 July 2020 06: 04 New
    +5
    "Good morning, Vietnam." Why Galil, Israel, will be cheaper?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 8 July 2020 06: 18 New
      -7
      Good morning, Constantine! hi
      Kickbacks-s)) In general, it is more convenient to aim with Galil than with AK
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 8 July 2020 06: 21 New
        +3
        Good morning, Albert! hi
        I liked the fuse in Galil, it is more convenient than the AK and the fact that the loading handle is on the left. Although, I just twisted it in my hands, I couldn’t shoot.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 8 July 2020 06: 28 New
          -2
          Well, yes, you can move your finger. . The crank handle on the right, rather, you were dealing with the export version for lefties - some amount per lot sold to Europeans or Latinos. It’s more convenient to aim - like from M-16, but due to disassembly, like AK, (the top cover, on which the rear sight stands - is entirely in Russian, it seems) there is no accuracy like the Koltov rifle
          1. Zeev zeev
            Zeev zeev 8 July 2020 07: 24 New
            +3
            The loading handle in MicroGalil and in all Galil ACE versions is on the left. And the slot is covered with a spring-loaded dust cover. Boker tov
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 8 July 2020 07: 30 New
              +2
              Boker! I don’t argue .. I had Glilon in Miluim, ACE and Micro did not hold in my hands
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 8 July 2020 08: 59 New
        +5
        Tllkovo brought to mind.
        [
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 8 July 2020 09: 05 New
          +2
          I didn’t even see them live))
        2. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 8 July 2020 14: 18 New
          0
          Tllkovo brought to mind.
          [


          What then do not use yourself? We have rumors here that -

          The production of Galil automatic rifles in Israel was discontinued in 2006, and in 2007 the Galil were finally removed from service with the IDF (some remained in service with the guard of honor and some non-military units)
    2. kytx
      kytx 8 July 2020 06: 21 New
      +2
      Well, the license was galil, l: grants, so it's not bad to be bad :)
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 9 July 2020 14: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: kytx
        Well, the license was galil, l: grants, so it's not bad to be bad :)

        There, the license for the license and the license drives.
        The Vietnamese bought a license from the Israelis, who bought a license from the Finns, who bought a license from Kalashnikov.
        Everything there should be in order with both construction and technology. And the cartridge remained Soviet - 7,62x39
        Why did Israel offer a lower price? If the equipment is the same, then for Israel the procurement chain is shorter and the terms of the contract are more favorable.
        Therefore, the matter is not only greed or stupidity, there are objective reasons.
    3. Zeev zeev
      Zeev zeev 8 July 2020 07: 18 New
      +1
      Israel has a newer, ergonomic, and cheaper.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 8 July 2020 07: 21 New
        +3
        Cheaper than AK?
        1. Zeev zeev
          Zeev zeev 8 July 2020 07: 27 New
          +4
          Cheaper than AK. Moreover, IWI sold not only the license, but also the entire production plant, including staff training.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 8 July 2020 07: 32 New
            0
            Well done - they know how to trade
            1. Zeev zeev
              Zeev zeev 8 July 2020 08: 13 New
              10
              Well Duc. That is what we live. Made - sold. By the way, I smoked a little on the topic here, the reason for winning the tender of the Israeli company IWI is really that their offer was cheaper. Concern "Kalashnikov" asked for a license and a plant for 250 million dollars, and "greedy" Jews 170 million of the same dollars.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 8 July 2020 08: 14 New
                -1
                Greed begets poverty
              2. Ratmir_Ryazan
                Ratmir_Ryazan 8 July 2020 14: 16 New
                +5
                Concern "Kalashnikov" asked for a license and a plant for 250 million dollars, and "greedy" Jews 170 million of the same dollars.


                Kalashnikov Concern sells the real Kalashnikov, and greedy Evriy sold to Vietnam what they themselves do not need.

                There are rumors that

                The production of Galil automatic rifles in Israel was discontinued in 2006, and in 2007 the Galil were finally removed from service with the IDF (some remained in service with the guard of honor and some non-military units)


                Why so? After all, they brought to mind what you yourself do not use?

                The Kalashnikov assault rifle is not only in design, but also in materials, AK barrel survivability - 25 shots, and if you clean and lubricate, you can multiply by two.

                And what does Galil have with this?

                And a diopter sight, it’s good only for sport shooting, in battle, on the contrary, it complicates aiming, as it closes the review -





                But for AK -



                When shooting at moving targets - an open sight is much more convenient.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 8 July 2020 16: 37 New
                  +2
                  1) Well I say greed gives rise to poverty lol
                  2) Go to bull-dads, that’s not used))
                  3) Old Galil is a reliable thing. This one has no idea. Here is the question of the Vietnamese
                  4) I have very little experience shooting at targets moving left-right or forward-backward diagonally, and there is no preparation at all. As a rule, when you work as part of a unit, the survival rate of the object that you saw is very short hi
                  1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                    Ratmir_Ryazan 8 July 2020 16: 44 New
                    +4
                    This is not greed, this is the price of the goods. Or in your Russia now you need to dump yourself at a loss?

                    Israel withdrew Galil; they essentially sold what they did not need. But Russia sells the best automatic machine in the world and it cannot be cheaper than a fake.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 8 July 2020 16: 50 New
                      +2
                      This is not the machine that was in service with the IDF)). Maybe the police have one - and I’m not sure.
                      The best in the world - I do not know, and in general this is a subjective criterion, but if you count, then:
                      1) The cost of salary expenses in Israel is several times higher - a minimum wage of 110 thousand rubles
                      2) The cost of the cost of the premises - electricity, etc. many times more
                      3) The cost of the same metal and other materials is many times greater
                      That is, in the end, if the Israelis sold cheaper, then the margin of profit there was hoo
                      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                        Ratmir_Ryazan 8 July 2020 16: 57 New
                        +2
                        What did you count? What are the costs of electricity and metal, the minimum wage?

                        Israel withdrew Galil from service, there is no talk of any production.

                        They sell production technology, not automatic machines. Vietnam made a mistake, bought a fake, and saved only $ 80 million (the cost of 1 modern fighter), which is not much even for Vietnam.
                      2. Zeev zeev
                        Zeev zeev 8 July 2020 17: 05 New
                        +1
                        Israel continues to produce Galil for export.
                      3. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 8 July 2020 17: 05 New
                        +1
                        1) In this case, what kind of loss can Kalashnikov talk about at all if the technology is sold? )))
                        2) Disassembled by the IDF - does not mean that it is not exported to the police
                      4. Zeev zeev
                        Zeev zeev 8 July 2020 17: 41 New
                        0
                        The police switched to M-16. Micro-Galil, which was in their arsenal, is exported.
                      5. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 8 July 2020 17: 51 New
                        +1
                        Yeah He has not been in the country for more than 4 years. )))
              3. Zeev zeev
                Zeev zeev 8 July 2020 17: 04 New
                0
                You are not reading carefully. Israel did not sell the decommissioned Galilas to Vietnam, but built a plant in Vietnam for the production of NEW versions of the Galil. And Russia asked for a lot more for the plant and the license, and not even for the full production cycle and not for new models, but for the assembly line and slightly tuned AKMs.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 8 July 2020 17: 09 New
                  0
                  This problem is the lack of flexibility in trade with state corporations.
        2. Eugene - Jhonny
          Eugene - Jhonny 9 July 2020 20: 36 New
          0
          Well, apparently, Vietnam is going to use "its" purchase, only for arming elite army and police forces, and not for mass arming the entire army of Vietnam.
          Despite everything, AK still surpasses all modern models of automatic weapons in simplicity, quality and wear resistance. No matter how the Bulgarians, Chinese, Finns, and other lecensiats (s) of the AK strive, but no one gets to the top of the Kalashnikov assault rifle. And this is not my opinion, but the opinion of fighters from many Arab, African, European, Asian ... - regular and irregular, private and state armed units, with whom I have been able to communicate with over my whole life. Today, it’s better than the “good” good Kalash, until you come up with !!!
          Oh, and by the way, Vietnam is very at risk doing business with Israel, because in any conflict "a la American-Vietnamese war", Israel, by order of the United States or Great Britain, will immediately stop deliveries to Vietnam, and then what?
      2. Grits
        Grits 8 July 2020 11: 13 New
        +4
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Well done - they know how to trade

        Jews all the same ...
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 9 July 2020 14: 08 New
          +2
          Quote: Gritsa
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Well done - they know how to trade

          Jews all the same ...

          And in Rostec, who do you think? Negroes or what?
    4. Insurgent
      Insurgent 8 July 2020 07: 34 New
      +6
      The famous actress Miyika in Vietnam is holding a brand new STV-380 assault rifle.


      And she (actress), that in two versions what - "for domestic consumption"And"in export performance" belay ? lol



      1. Eugene-Eugene
        8 July 2020 07: 51 New
        +3
        And she (actress), that in two versions

        These are different girls. Redhead seems to be just a picker
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 8 July 2020 07: 59 New
          +6
          Quote: Eugene-Eugene
          These are different girls. Redhead seems to be just a picker

          Yes i see laughing , not blind ... That's why he wrote about "two options (executions)"...

          Directly impossible, in the morning, a little bit of humor repeat
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 8 July 2020 08: 22 New
            +2
            And by the way what .

            You, this (absurdly arguing) pretty "picker"does not resemble one of the actresses / models?

            It seems that YES, the Vietnamese seriously took up the PR products of the domestic defense industry.



            1. DEVIL LIFE`S
              DEVIL LIFE`S 8 July 2020 10: 24 New
              0
              The same Korean women
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 8 July 2020 10: 34 New
                +5
                Quote: DEVIL LIFE`S
                The same Korean women

                And the text of the logo in the picture in the Vietnamese Latin alphabet XA THU DUA TAI is also Korean belay ?

            2. Grits
              Grits 8 July 2020 11: 16 New
              0
              Quote: Insurgent
              To you, this (absurdly to argue) pretty "picker" does not remind one of the actresses / models?

              It seems that YES, the Vietnamese seriously took up the PR products of the domestic defense industry.

              If you, like me, walked around the wounds of Vladivostok, then you would also learn to distinguish Vietnamese from other Asians.
        2. Dym71
          Dym71 8 July 2020 09: 07 New
          +4
          Quote: Eugene-Eugene
          These are different girls. Redhead seems to be just a picker

          It is unlikely that she is a picker.
          According to your logic, the second from the same workshop, it is in the background a photo, to the right of the redhead.
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 8 July 2020 14: 30 New
    0
    Israel has a newer, ergonomic, and cheaper.


    Well, of course, newer, more than once in history a copy of something did not appear faster than the original from which it was copied))).

    The ergonomics of the AK are excellent, and the "fashionable" body kits are just show-off and fashion, they do not affect the accuracy of shooting, reliability, and who needs to be fashionable - the military is at service, and spending budget money is better to ensure that our soldiers are ALL armed , not just some of them.

    Galil’s cheapness is due to its inferiority compared to AK, otherwise this machine would be in service with Israel.

    We say about such transactions: "On you, God, that we do not want."
    1. Zeev zeev
      Zeev zeev 8 July 2020 17: 38 New
      0
      I would like to know, what is your experience of using firearms or at least real acquaintance with it (this weapon)? Because the ergonomics of even the AK-74 (from which I did shoot) did not stand close to the ancient "Galil" ARM of 1973 (from which I also managed to shoot).
      And to what extent "fashionable body kits" like a collimator, a wide comfortable butt, all kinds of handles, flashlights, laser designators improve the shooting results and the same ergonomics, I also know a little.
      The "cheapness" of Galil for Vietnam is due only to the greed of Rosoboronexport, which for some reason considered the Vietnamese to be naive savages who are now ready to overpay for small arms because of the old memory of free supplies in ancient years and are completely unfamiliar with modern production technologies.
      And finally - "Galil" (the old version) was removed from the artillery of the Israeli army in 2005 (more precisely, from artillery, sappers and tankers, the infantry abandoned the "Galil" back in the early 90s), due to the fact that it was heavier , less convenient and much less accurate than the shortened versions of the M-16 that replaced them.
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 8 July 2020 21: 50 New
        +2
        I served in the army for 10 years, 9 of them shot enough from a machine gun and other small arms. My record is 100 meters. 97 out of 100 lying flat, from the SVD confidently hit small inflatable balls 550 meters. And this despite the fact that very little time and very little ammunition was allocated for training.

        I did not feel any discomfort when shooting.

        Handles, lights and collimators can also be placed on the AK, no matter what Galil is no better.

        Rosoboronexport does not consider anyone to be savages, but sells weapons at a market price, and the one that the Russian military uses, and does not try to sell what they themselves do not need, saying that the flashlight and calimator of any shooter immediately makes orders of magnitude more accurate))).

        The diopter sight is a big minus for the machine. I repeat once again that it overlaps the review and it’s very inconvenient to transfer fire and aim at the target when shooting in battle. Although such a sight will be more convenient at a shooting range.
      2. Sergey Kulikov_3
        Sergey Kulikov_3 8 July 2020 21: 59 New
        +1
        So what do you mean by ergonomics? If you attach a flashlight and a rake to the BSL-110, will there be "Galil" in the digging area?
  • Maz
    Maz 8 July 2020 12: 08 New
    +1
    The Vietnamese People’s Army (Vietnamese. Quân Đội Nhân Dân Việt Nam) is the official name of the armed forces of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. The number is 482. That is, approximately 000 to 300 automatic machines are needed. Yes, in reserve not less than a million to ten.
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 8 July 2020 14: 20 New
    0
    "Good morning, Vietnam." Why Galil, Israel, will be cheaper?


    Yes, the Vietnamese did stupidity, seduced by a beautiful wrapper and presentation. They guessed it, saved a penny, but in the end they got just a fake of the original.
  • Lebed
    Lebed 8 July 2020 06: 09 New
    11
    Vietnam's development of its defense industry is understandable, well done. I do not quite understand the purpose of these media shows.
  • Graz
    Graz 8 July 2020 06: 12 New
    +1
    and who allowed the Jews to make a replicated Kalash replica?
    1. Eugene-Eugene
      8 July 2020 06: 15 New
      +5
      So Searcher also became an "Outpost" ...
      1. venik
        venik 8 July 2020 14: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: Eugene-Eugene
        So Searcher also became an "Outpost" ...

        =======
        And what, does Russia "Outpost" export somewhere? Or factories for its production ?? belay
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 8 July 2020 06: 20 New
      +4
      Patents expire after 20 years. How much time has passed since 1947? And you personally, if you suddenly want to produce clones of, say, Colt 1911, you are not obliged to take a license from either Colt or Browning's heirs.
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 8 July 2020 08: 47 New
        0
        Quote: Nagan
        Patents expire after 20 years.

        A patent is valid as long as the copyright holder pays the patent fee each year.
        Another thing is that until the end of Soviet power, our designers did not patent their, much less secret, abroad.
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 8 July 2020 06: 16 New
    0
    The famous actress Miyika in Vietnam is holding a brand new STV-380 assault rifle.

    Some kind of scared ...
  • Siberian 66
    Siberian 66 8 July 2020 06: 22 New
    +6
    It is unfortunate that Vietnam will not be armed with our assault rifles. The market is gone. The Vietnamese acted pragmatically, but what about the Kalashnikov concern, such a traditional market, unlimited respect for the AK-47, how could they not prepare an attractive commercial offer? In all senses laughing
  • Free wind
    Free wind 8 July 2020 06: 40 New
    +2
    The girl is pretty!
    1. Eugene-Eugene
      8 July 2020 07: 25 New
      +2
      The girl is pretty!


      there are two of them lol
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 9 July 2020 03: 11 New
        +1
        Both girls are pretty.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 July 2020 07: 23 New
    +4
    switches to new small arms
    Which, in principle, is based on the Soviet AK. Hide behind Galil ACE, do not hide behind, and he was created at one time on the same base. The plus for Vietnam is that he wants to provide himself with small arms manufactured in his country.
    1. Zeev zeev
      Zeev zeev 8 July 2020 07: 41 New
      +6
      New small arms in the army and navy of Vietnam are represented not only by the Vietnamese Galil Ace. If you watch the video, there will be both the Tavor carbine and the Negev light machine gun, which are not connected to the AK system. Besides, why was Russia unable to sell its AKs to Vietnam?
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 8 July 2020 07: 51 New
        -3
        Most likely, the tasks are set more interesting - S-300-400, T-90, submarines, etc.
        1. Zeev zeev
          Zeev zeev 8 July 2020 08: 21 New
          +1
          Well, we have no long-range air defense systems, tanks and submarines for sale to Vietnam. Not enough for ourselves. Only short-range air defense systems, ATGMs, MLRS, rifle, radars, high-precision missiles and there are still little things.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 8 July 2020 08: 23 New
            0
            Body kit and upgrade to the Vietnam fleet. The kit and upgrade tanks. In principle, the Israeli niche.
  • Undecim
    Undecim 8 July 2020 08: 04 New
    +4
    Vietnamese media are launching a show that will feature new small arms designed to replace Soviet and Russian-made systems.
    The Vietnamese media reality show "Competitive Shooters" has been airing its third season. Two teams compete in shooting from different types of small arms. Very popular in Vietnam.
    And this season, the organizers decided to "make it hotter" and involve beautiful girls - actresses, singers, models. These ones.

    Therefore, this show is not "new" and was not created to cover the national program "Made in Vietnam 4.0 Program". By the way, the program itself deserves a serious article, since acquaintance with this program and its achievements seriously changes the usual image of Vietnam.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 8 July 2020 08: 17 New
      +1
      In Vietnam, there is a layer of rich people, and the rich are truly
  • Undecim
    Undecim 8 July 2020 08: 21 New
    +5
    Since 2014, all new items have been produced at the Z111 factory under a license obtained from the Israeli company Galil ACE.
    There is no such company in Israel. There is Israel Military Industries (IMI), a state-owned corporation that produced small arms, including Galil, until 2005. In 2005, the IMI unit manufacturing small arms was privatized. Now this company is called Israel Weapon Industries (IWI).
    In 2014, Vietnam acquired a license from Israel Weapon Industries for the IWI ACE 31 and 32 assault rifles and a production line for their production for $ 100.
  • iouris
    iouris 8 July 2020 14: 52 New
    +1
    Vietnamese commandos finally do not need a rifle.
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 8 July 2020 15: 52 New
    +2
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    Tllkovo brought to mind.
    [


    What then do not use yourself? We have rumors here that -

    The production of Galil automatic rifles in Israel was discontinued in 2006, and in 2007 the Galil were finally removed from service with the IDF (some remained in service with the guard of honor and some non-military units)

    And we loved Tabor. But it is more expensive.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 8 July 2020 16: 08 New
    0
    To advertisers of mind to save up! What is this talking about? What for women trunks, not for men.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 8 July 2020 18: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Captive
      To advertisers of mind to save up! What is this talking about? What for women trunks, not for men.

      Even in the last century I saw an advertisement, I don't remember what. Mating elephants are depicted. The caption reads: "Sex sells. Big sex should sell big." And then the name of either a product, or a service, or a provider that does not belong either to elephants or to sex.
  • Leonid Har
    Leonid Har 9 July 2020 02: 57 New
    0
    Clone Galil made in Vietnam.
    Kalashnikov is also made in Vietnam.