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The consequences of the pandemic for the Russian economy: there will be no collapse, but the belt will have to be tightened

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The first negative forecasts regarding the prospects of the domestic economy began to be voiced almost immediately, as soon as the coronavirus pandemic reached the borders of our country and turned into it by no means a joyful everyday reality. Now that the peak of the fight against the disease and, accordingly, the restrictive measures associated with it are already clearly behind, we can try to draw some conclusions in order to assess the damage done to Russia - both existing and potential.


Apparently, the situation is developing in strict accordance with the well-known Russian proverb: good, but not very, bad, but not quite. The main potential danger COVID-19 (many deaths) Russia was avoided. However, as you know, you have to pay for everything. In this case, harsh quarantine measures, which definitely did not benefit the welfare of the country and citizens. Moreover, in our case, the “coronacrisis” that hit the whole world was also subject to a record drop in energy prices, which was especially painful for the Russian economy.

However, the gloomiest forecasts (and from those made in the first months of the distribution of COVID-19 in our country could have been made even thicker than the collection of quatrains of Nostradamus), fortunately, did not come true. In the predictions regarding the pestilence awaiting Russia, gladness and other horrors, various Western experts and those of their domestic colleagues, who are trying not only to imitate the negativity voiced by our "friends", but even to remit it, were mostly sophisticated. For example, in April, analysts from the seemingly Russian Institute for Strategic Analysis FBK Grant Thornton predicted our country a 10-20% drop in GDP, a massive business closure and total unemployment. Around the same time, the Russian BBC service lamented that soon in Russia “many people will have nothing to eat” ...

In fact, everything turned out to be far from being so pessimistic. Even the domestic Ministry of Economic Development, through the mouth of its head Maxim Reshetnikov, who promised a decrease in the country's GDP by 9,8% in the second quarter, seems to have slightly exaggerated. It’s clear that nothing good is happening now. However, according to available statistics, in some sectors, such as construction or freight traffic, losses were significantly lower than expected. Also, there was no sharp decline in salaries and an “explosive” increase in unemployment. Nor do we observe a “collapse” of the ruble against foreign currencies. He fell in price, of course, but not to a hundred for a dollar, as some predicted!

Things are really bad in the retail sector, including even food products, the volumes of which have “shrunk” by almost a quarter during quarantine. The services sector is in a rather difficult situation, primarily the hotel and tourism business, which, for obvious reasons, suffered the most notable losses from the pandemic. In addition, real incomes of citizens in April-May fell by almost 30% - most Russians are now definitely not up to traveling and buying new things in their own wardrobe.

At the state level, the picture is also far from rosy. The amount voiced by the Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov from the treasury lost due to the pandemic and falling oil prices, the sum in annual terms may well amount to a trillion rubles. According to his deputy Vladimir Kolychev, by the end of the year the “hole” in the state budget deficit, broken by the enormous cost of anti-crisis programs designed to support regional budgets, the federal health system, private business, as well as all Russian citizens, could reach 5 billion. Nevertheless, there is no panic in the government: the country's chief financiers promise to cover the deficit with "receipts from other sources."

It should be noted that amid all these troubles, according to official figures, inflation in the country “froze”, reaching a zero level, while consumer price growth was only 2,6%. A game with numbers? Hardly. Just the other day a Japanese financier, general partner of the investment company UMJ Yusuke Otsubo spoke about the unprecedented “resilience of the Russian economy in a pandemic”. In his opinion, our country is far from being so dependent on energy exports, as they are trying to argue. And to cope with the consequences of the “coronacrisis” she was helped, firstly, by her “great experience of survival in the conditions of severe economic sanctions of the West”, and, secondly, by her “powerful production and agricultural potential created during the years of previous crises and shocks”.

Mr. Otsubo can hardly be considered the “mouthpiece of the Kremlin,” and his opinion is biased or biased. Most likely, the forecasts of those domestic state institutions that say the worst is over are true, the recession in the economy will slow down from the second half of the year, it will grow next year and, at least, will reach the pre-crisis level at the beginning of 2022. It was then that the coronavirus and its economic consequences will finally become a terrible dream for Russians that can be forgotten.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 8 July 2020 15: 04
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    The consequences of the pandemic for the Russian economy: there will be no collapse, but the belt will have to be tightened

    When will officials and oligarchs tighten their belts? People have been addictive for 6 years .. and billionaires only multiply ..
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 15: 12
      32
      Quote: Svarog
      The consequences of the pandemic for the Russian economy: there will be no collapse, but the belt will have to be tightened

      When will officials and oligarchs tighten their belts? People have been addictive for 6 years .. and billionaires only multiply ..

      NEVER!!! lol Today it is fashionable - with the fall in oil and gas prices - to consider the people as a substitute for oil and gas laughing
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 8 July 2020 16: 47
        16
        This is true. Since July 1, tariffs for all utilities have been raised and fuel prices have skyrocketed. On AI-92, I immediately jumped at 45 kopecks. One could somehow explain if this went to the state budget, but all companies are private.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 8 July 2020 17: 54
          -9
          70% of the cost of a liter of gasoline and diesel fuel go to regional budgets, as well as to the state budget.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 8 July 2020 19: 31
            14
            Quote: Vadim237
            70% of the cost of a liter of gasoline and diesel fuel go to regional budgets, as well as to the state budget.

            And the budget is safely mastered by contractors, who, in turn, are very close to either the regional authorities or the federal ones. In other words, I don’t see the benefits of the high gas price .. Where do you spend the money next?
          2. YOUR
            YOUR 9 July 2020 03: 30
            +5
            You can see the link where it is officially written that 70% of the cost of gasoline goes to regional budgets. In the Tax Code this is not.
            Question to you?
            Cheat on why?
        2. Grading
          Grading 8 July 2020 19: 47
          -8
          You would first familiarize yourself with what is included in the price of a liter of gasoline laughing
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 8 July 2020 21: 40
            17
            Quote: Grading
            You would first familiarize yourself with what is included in the price of a liter of gasoline

            The price of gasoline includes the welfare of Putin's government and the further impoverishment of the people.
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 9 July 2020 08: 52
              -1
              and where will the people get poorer? aren't really beggars yet?
              1. Roman123567
                Roman123567 9 July 2020 12: 17
                +5
                A fig se .. even Nastya slowly begins to see clearly ..))
                1. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova 9 July 2020 12: 40
                  -1
                  about what to see clearly ????
              2. Aag
                Aag 14 July 2020 20: 36
                +1
                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                and where will the people get poorer? aren't really beggars yet?

                Apparently, not all. Someone on the belts had a buckle with a clasp. Someone moved a few positions in the Forbes rating. Generalizing we get the middle class with an income of 17 tyr per month. Otherwise, I can’t imagine how they counted ...
                1. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova 15 July 2020 08: 06
                  -2
                  so it is everywhere so everywhere in the world the gap between rich and poor is growing
                  1. Essex62
                    Essex62 15 July 2020 12: 14
                    +1
                    And why do we like them? In the whole liberal world, blue and pink in honor. But with me, at the sight of such individuals, the index finger of my right hand makes reflexive flexions. I don’t want like they have, I want as we had before, for proven, over 10 tyr of stolen folk money, to the wall and with confiscation. Wealth cannot be gained by labor, axiom.
                    1. Nastia makarova
                      Nastia makarova 15 July 2020 12: 35
                      -2
                      I do not call on how to live with them, but we have been included in the global system and now we have to live by its rules
            2. Aag
              Aag 14 July 2020 20: 31
              0
              You haven’t watched diesel fuel yet!))) (The main trucking, as a result, the cost of goods and services)! Irkutsk region-49.90r / liter (and this is not EVRO).
    2. alone
      alone 8 July 2020 15: 15
      33
      Quote: Svarog
      When will officials and oligarchs tighten their belts? People have been addictive for 6 years .. and billionaires only multiply ..

      Sechin tightened .. He became square .. And the diameter of the face became a little less than a meter ...
    3. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 8 July 2020 15: 18
      30
      Quote: Svarog
      When will officials and oligarchs tighten their belts? People have been addictive for 6 years .. and billionaires only multiply ..

      During the pandemic, friends of a friend grew rich by another 64 billion dollars and continue to "siphon" money from the country, but for the common population, everything will only get worse.
    4. And Makarov
      And Makarov 8 July 2020 15: 47
      17
      Quote: Svarog
      People have been addictive for 6 years .. and billionaires only multiply.

      And this is how it works: several thousand people tightened their belts - and squeezed out a billionaire
    5. paul3390
      paul3390 8 July 2020 15: 48
      25
      What for? It seems that everything is so crooked - just now, people with a glee of type voted by the majority for the next feature of the sovereign .. In these situations - robbing, I don’t want to, something to unfasten something to any cattle there? Is it all pretty like it anyway?
    6. Valter1364
      Valter1364 8 July 2020 16: 13
      +4
      Money always goes to money, and an empty pocket remains empty. No.
    7. Machito
      Machito 14 July 2020 09: 22
      +3
      Quote: Svarog
      The consequences of the pandemic for the Russian economy: there will be no collapse, but the belt will have to be tightened

      When will officials and oligarchs tighten their belts? People have been addictive for 6 years .. and billionaires only multiply ..

      When the people of the belt tighten on the neck of oligarchs and officials, then drag on.
    8. Aibolit
      Aibolit 15 July 2020 17: 18
      +1
      Quote: Svarog
      When will officials and oligarchs tighten their belts?

      Let's start with Gazprom, this is their national state
      Gazprom has warned of rising gas prices in Russia. Indexing had spend amid tremendous losses of the corporation due to an abnormally warm winter and loss of income in traditional markets for the company.
      The decision to raise selling prices for natural gas was announced by the head of the Gazprom department, Alexei Andreev. The top manager emphasized that the consent of the regulatory authorities for indexation has already been obtained.

      Compared to 2015 year total salary of board members decreased from 1,429 billion to 1,213 billion rubles., and the volume of premiums has increased, albeit slightly, from 1,155 billion to 1,176 billion rubles.

      Considering that the Gazprom Management Committee includes 17 people, including the head of the company Alexey Miller, the average income of each member of the Management Board over the past year amounted to about 144 million rubles, or about 12 million rubles. per month.
  2. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 8 July 2020 15: 04
    -37 qualifying.
    Well, what's new? The whole world will tighten their belts! I am glad that Russia is emerging from the pandemic with minimal losses.
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 15: 11
      20
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Well, what's new? The whole world will tighten their belts! I am glad that Russia is emerging from the pandemic with minimal losses.

      I will answer with folk wisdom - "Chickens are counted in autumn !!!" bully
      We’ll wait until late autumn - then we’ll see how and who came out al no laughing and where winked
    2. Dmitry Donskoy_2
      Dmitry Donskoy_2 8 July 2020 15: 27
      +8
      [quote] [/ quote] you probably said that on TV?)))) Naive
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 8 July 2020 15: 44
        -31 qualifying.
        Well yes ... of course on TV. Here you have a lot of “mud.kretsov” - enlightened ones, especially with payment for each comment.
        I really see how the New Hospital is being built, at what speed and what quality, I see - Who is the street.
        So - wise, go Forest! yes
        1. mark2
          mark2 8 July 2020 17: 17
          11
          Damn, where are they recorded on paid comments? I would sign up.
          1. mdsr
            mdsr 8 July 2020 17: 52
            11
            Quote: mark2
            Damn, where are they recorded on paid comments? I would sign up.

            The "Factory of Oligarchic Trolls", which once operated in Olgino and then on Savushkina Street, now exists at a new address in St. Petersburg: Optikov Street, 4, building 3.
            1. mark2
              mark2 8 July 2020 17: 54
              +8
              Well, I’ll go to raise the family’s blog status.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 8 July 2020 19: 33
                +5
                Quote: mark2
                Well, I’ll go to raise the family’s blog status.

                I would also earn extra money))
            2. Svarog
              Svarog 8 July 2020 19: 32
              +6
              Quote: mdsr
              Quote: mark2
              Damn, where are they recorded on paid comments? I would sign up.

              The "Factory of Oligarchic Trolls", which once operated in Olgino and then on Savushkina Street, now exists at a new address in St. Petersburg: Optikov Street, 4, building 3.

              I think there the staff expanded and funding increased substantially laughing
        2. Dmitry Donskoy_2
          Dmitry Donskoy_2 8 July 2020 18: 48
          +4
          Again, see on TV? Such as where do you get the eye of vision?
        3. Vicontas
          Vicontas 8 July 2020 21: 29
          13
          Or maybe you should not close the old ones, so as not to splurge on new ones? There were more than 10 thousand hospitals in the country, but someone wanted to close them so as not to give money that could be stolen for financing! And they reduced it to 5 thousand, and when the pandemic shied around the attic, they rushed to build what they themselves destroyed - healthcare! And you see it so simple that you will soon rejoice at the new morgues at the hospitals that are building with such speed and with such quality!
    3. lis-ik
      lis-ik 8 July 2020 17: 23
      +6
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Well, what's new? The whole world will tighten their belts! I am glad that Russia is emerging from the pandemic with minimal losses.

      Are you serious? Or were they joking, but they didn’t understand everything?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 8 July 2020 17: 57
        -16 qualifying.
        Seriously, unlike the United States, which has 60 million unemployed and poor with mass protests and riots after coronovirus events, Russia is blooming and fragrant.
        1. Grading
          Grading 8 July 2020 19: 54
          15
          Kremleboty annealed lol
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 9 July 2020 02: 06
            -12 qualifying.
            And besides garbage demotivators you don’t have your own words - probably the picture frame is instead of gyrus in the skull box.
    4. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 8 July 2020 18: 07
      +3
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Well, what's new? The whole world will tighten their belts! I am glad that Russia is emerging from the pandemic with minimal losses.

      Quote: Valter1364
      Money always goes to money, and an empty pocket remains empty. No.

      I remember a joke - a monkey runs through the forest and yells: “Crisis, Crisis!” To meet the fox:
      - Yes, I walked in furs and walk.
      The monkey is already quieter: "Crisis." To meet the wolf:
      - Okay, every day I eat meat as well as meat.
      Behind him is a bear:
      - Yes, I continued to feast on me as a honey, and nobody canceled a three-month rest in a year.
      Monkey: "The crisis, not the crisis, but as I was with his bare ass before him, I remained."
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 8 July 2020 19: 37
        0
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Monkey: "The crisis, not the crisis, but as I was with his bare ass before him, I remained."

        You obviously mean by monkey people .. Ugly.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 8 July 2020 19: 43
          +7
          No way - just told a joke that I did not come up with. hi
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 8 July 2020 19: 47
            +2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            No way - just told a joke that I did not come up with. hi

            So think about the meaning .. The fox-officials, the Wolves-oligarchs .. well, the monkey remains the people .. It’s not nice to laugh at people and it’s dangerous .. and then you also blame it for rocking the boat .. Such jokes and various kinds of dull-witted officials rock it ..
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 8 July 2020 19: 53
              -7
              Who is the bear? laughing
              Everyone has their own perception. and about dangerous - the third time I write on the site:
              In the event of a revolution, having made the left term, which taught them to march in formation, the revolutionaries will take out the guts. Lie down, expropriators hi
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 8 July 2020 19: 57
                +3
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Who is the bear? laughing
                Everyone has their own perception. and about dangerous - the third time I write on the site:
                In the event of a revolution, having made the left term, which taught them to march in formation, the revolutionaries will take out the guts. Lie down, expropriators hi

                The best opinion was about you .. Evidently fate has not tested your strength yet, you need to be more modest ..
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 8 July 2020 20: 19
                  +1
                  I am against pogroms and populists.
                  And about your associations between the people and the bare-ass monkey - everything is simple:
                  Even under the Union, which you consider as examples of social justice, there were people with the same salaries. Some always lived in debt, others were always with money - not stealing. Spent less on booze, carpets and services and managed to earn extra money, even tutors, under the Soviet regime. The first is a monkey hi
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 8 July 2020 20: 25
                    +4
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    I am against pogroms and populists.

                    I am also against ..
                    But I do not like when to boast of their well-being. And this is not envy at all, I am also not in need .. but this is a sign of nearness .. And the difference between the Union and now is that in the Union, only the last drunks lived on credit, and now 80% of the population ..
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 8 July 2020 20: 29
                      0
                      Where did I write about my own well-being? laughing I’m just answering you about “dangerous jokes” - to whom and what is dangerous.
                      And about the Union of Fairy Tales it is not necessary - 80% intercepted a three-ruble note to pay, five to advance payment, a hundred on a color TV, etc.
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 8 July 2020 20: 46
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        And about the Union of Fairy Tales it is not necessary - 80% intercepted a three-ruble note to pay, five to advance payment, a hundred on a color TV, etc.

                        And now millions of debts on the mortgage, for the car .. and just survive until the next month .. what’s called feel the difference.
                      2. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 8 July 2020 20: 49
                        -4
                        But you can inherit an apartment in a mortgage for your children, you don’t have to queue for cars and housing for years, etc.
                        About living up to the next month I wrote above - there were people who were lacking in the Union, there are people who are missing now
                      3. Svarog
                        Svarog 8 July 2020 20: 55
                        +3
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        But you can transfer an apartment in a mortgage to your children by inheritance,

                        First you need to pay the bank .. and in 15-20 years a lot of trouble can happen .. but the money for the previous paid years, the bank will not return you .. And the probability of staying without money and without an apartment is very high .. and with the Union you can it was free to get for 5-10 years, well, if you want very quickly, go to the Union construction sites, there you can get it for 1-2 years, and then exchange it anywhere in the Union ..
                      4. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 8 July 2020 21: 08
                        -5
                        Troubles could have happened in 5-10 years and at the Union construction site, all the more so - it’s not a hunt to remember the quality of apartments in panel 9s.
                        We have our eternal discussion laughing actually about what?
                        You say you need a return to the Union. Type. And you list the shortcomings of modern Russia (I agree with most of your statements), and about the merits of the USSR — in this I do not agree with you 90%.
                        In my opinion, you need to build normal capitalism with business security, switch to the Bismar system of healthcare with the mandatory certification of doctors abroad (remote), return Soviet school education, and then improve social programs - you can’t build alia Germany in the poor.
                      5. Svarog
                        Svarog 8 July 2020 21: 24
                        +7
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        and about the merits of the USSR - in this I do not agree with you 90%.

                        Do not agree, your right. You practically do not see advantages in the USSR; I also do not see advantages in modern Russia.
                        I do not want to say that everything was wonderful in the Union, of course not, but in comparison with Russia, modern was definitely better for the overwhelming majority of citizens.
                        In my opinion - you need to build normal capitalism with business security

                        So 30 years of building .. it does not work out normal capitalism .. yes, and in principle it is unlikely ..
                        I believe that all natural resources and the largest enterprises should be state owned, while encouraging small and medium-sized businesses ..
                        To return the entire social component, as in the Union ..
                        switch to the Bismarovo healthcare system with mandatory certification of doctors abroad (remote)

                        For the doctors I don’t know how best .. if Sylvester reads, maybe he will tell ..
                        Far from that.
                        to return the Soviet school education, and then to improve the social sphere - you can’t build Ala of the Federal Republic of Germany with beggars.

                        Soviet education needs to be returned, I agree!
                        Social in Russia will never be high .. under the capitalists. Even if everything is very good .. This is the mentality of our nouveau riche ..
                        It is enough for the state to take up the oil and gas sector and alcohol and the issue of social programs and pensions will be immediately closed ..
                        We have a discussion of our eternal laughing

                        That's for sure. You would better understand me if you thought not only about yourself. hi
                      6. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 8 July 2020 21: 40
                        -1
                        1) How can I not see? Education, free circles and sections for every taste and color.
                        2) The advantages of modern Russia in comparison with the USSR are freedom of movement, freedom of activity, access to any goods and services and literature and knowledge. Freedom of information
                        3) The first 30 years of normal capitalism in the United States did not smell. And in France after the overthrow of the monarchy.
                        4) I agree - the oil and gas industry should be state-owned. Like the military-industrial complex. Civil aircraft - no. Metal smelting - no. )))
                        5) Elementary housing in 5-10 years? Only in regions such as DV.
                        6) So far, the most influential people in the country will be former functionaries of the Communist Party, the Komsomol, their children and grandchildren - definitely not.
                        7) The oil and gas sector is not enough - taxes still need to be collected normally, and for this it is necessary to remove the 40% tax on salary of an employee
                        8) Heh. Why I think only about myself, I consider all citizens of the Russian Federation - myself, you, the rest - primitive Papuans who are not able to provide their old men with the payment of state pensions of $ 1000 Sasha per month. Despite the world's largest natural wealth - either you do not understand me, or you have never been interested in what I would like.
                      7. Malyuta
                        Malyuta 8 July 2020 21: 48
                        12
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        ) The advantages of modern Russia in comparison with the USSR are freedom of movement, freedom of activity, access to any goods and services and literature and knowledge. Freedom of information

                        I strongly apologize, but I had all the freedoms listed by you in the USSR. yes
                      8. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 8 July 2020 21: 58
                        -2
                        Freedom of movement - together with your family, give up on vacation to France, for example, you did not have
                        Alone, being party members, in a group, under supervision, with a limited amount of money - yes.
                        Freedom of activity - as a physician, to engage in reproductive medicine, for example, no one would give you)))
                        How to be a free Lancer without formal employment in a captive
                        You didn’t have access to foreign cars until 1989, you don’t even have access to all goods sold in the West, Obkomovites in special distributors, you didn’t have access to any kind of medicine (aesthetic, say), access to Solzhenitsyn (I I do not like him), Nabokov, de Sade, etc. you didn’t have access to medical genetics and so on - you didn’t have access to information and jammed with hostile radio voices laughing
                      9. Malyuta
                        Malyuta 8 July 2020 22: 10
                        11
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Freedom of movement - together with the family, give up on vacation in France, for example,

                        In 1989, my newly-elected wife and I went to Finka for 2 weeks, yeah they changed 30 rubles per capita at 7 marks per ruble!))) Plus, dates were happy to buy our chervonets at the same rate and the Stolichnaya vodka for 100 marks a bubble ))))
                        Threat. Due to my youth, I didn’t really need the rest.
                        And who can now say how the USSR would develop if it were not destroyed.
                      10. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 8 July 2020 22: 19
                        0
                        So in Chukhonka only on vodyar it was possible to buy not Hilo laughing 1989 - my father went to Israel. There were already concessions.
                        I do not know how the USSR would develop - Trotsky said the following:
                        Without the spread of the revolution to other countries of the world, socialism in Russia will be a temporary phenomenon. It turned out to be right.
                2. Svarog
                  Svarog 8 July 2020 22: 48
                  +9
                  ) How can I not see? Education, free circles and sections for every taste and color.

                  Free circles and sections? Are you talking about Russia ..? Everything in Tatarstan is paid.
                  2) The advantages of modern Russia in comparison with the USSR are freedom of movement, freedom of activity, access to any goods and services and literature and knowledge. Freedom of information

                  And what information was banned in the USSR? pornography, gays, all sorts of perversions .. now there is a lot of toxic information, but there is no useful information .. in the USSR, on the contrary, everything was.
                  Freedom of movement, I think that yes, it must remain. But movement, and not the ability to have officials property over the hill.
                  And access to any goods and services is severely limited in modern Russia by the availability of funds.
                  I agree - the oil and gas industry should be state owned. Like the military-industrial complex.

                  Here that agree with this, speaks of you as a thinking person.
                  Elementary housing in 5-10 years? Only in regions like DV

                  My parents came to build Kamaz and a year lived in a communal apartment, I was born and a year later got a two-room apartment .. and there are a million such examples.
                  While the most influential people in the country will be former functionaries of the Communist Party, the Komsomol, their children and grandchildren - definitely not.

                  I think that the issue is not in the past of these influential people, the matter is how they achieved influence and wealth. And their children, who will come in their place, are more likely to complicate the situation than to bring something better.
                  7) The oil and gas sector is not enough - you still need to collect taxes normally, and for this it is necessary to remove the tax of 40% on the salary of an employee

                  And this is only one tax .. and VAT? No less idiotic .. The Chinese pay 1% of sales .. and they don’t even need an accountant and a huge staff of tax specialists ..
                  Why I think only about myself, I consider all citizens of the Russian Federation - myself, you, the rest - primitive Papuans who are not able to provide their old men with the payment of state pensions of $ 1000 Sasha per month. Despite the world's largest natural wealth - either you do not understand me, or you have never been interested in what I would like.

                  Here I am also .. laughing So we still have more in common than discrepancies hi drinks
                3. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 8 July 2020 22: 58
                  -3
                  1) No - I'm talking about the positive that was in the USSR
                  2) In the USSR, there was a ban on a lot of literature - both scientific, philosophical and historical.
                  And why should not the official have property over the hill? You just need to determine which hill. If in Cuba, why not?
                  3) I agree - in Russia money has always been expensive - but this is already associated with a large percentage of non-return. Those. mental problems.
                  4) As for public housing - you can
                  5) I say, as long as there is a remnant of former communists and their offspring - there will be nothing good
                  6) So here you can work without VAT - I have two LLC-shki, one of them without. And so there is VAT everywhere in the world - China is not a social country under the rule of the CCP
                  7) drinks hi
                4. Svarog
                  Svarog 8 July 2020 23: 07
                  +5
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  2) In the USSR, there was a ban on a lot of literature - both scientific, philosophical and historical.

                  However, this did not stop being one of the first in science. Although it depends on what kind of literature we’ll talk again .. Its history is written and interpreted as they want and how profitable .. The loss is not great ..
                  And why should not the official have property over the hill? You just need to determine which hill. If in Cuba, why not?


                  The official should be a model of statehood, a lot depends on the official and it would be good if he drank from the same bowl with the people .. so he would be closer to people and their problems and his children should go to school on a common basis and go to the hospital , then you look in your country the order to bring about a desire will appear ..
                  Well, then they can be corny recruited if the position is serious ..
                  3) I agree - in Russia money has always been expensive - but this is already associated with a large percentage of non-return. Those. mental problems.

                  The problem is not only in non-refunds .. the wood is wooden .. and depends heavily on the dollar ..
                  5) I say, as long as there is a remnant of former communists and their offspring - there will be nothing good
                5. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 8 July 2020 23: 37
                  0
                  1) the USSR was the first in physics (all fields), mathematics (also), the rest was a dachshund, somewhere behind, and it was significant. In medicine, there were plus or minus advanced developments, in some areas, and in some, a 20-year lag. There were a great many lies in the interpretation of events written by Soviet historians, as well as shortcomings and other things.
                  2) The official is a clerk to whom the people have delegated various powers that they cannot, do not want to fulfill. I agree about schools and hospitals, about foreign countries - if Vasya Pupkin can buy a hut in Miami, then an official can buy a hut ... in Cuba, from where he will be extradited, if they don’t. In the States - it is impossible.
                  3) Here is the wooden ruble. We need to work to "turn green"
            2. savage1976
              savage1976 9 July 2020 06: 18
              -1
              Oh, and you're a lover of lying. Mugs and sections are all paid. Even the search engine on the phone does not allow laziness. Well, I’ll help a little.

              https://posleurokov.ru/kazan/59393 танцы бесплатно, идёт набор групп на новый учебный год.

              http://kvantorium.ru/1/kvantorium/
              A huge number of technical areas from auto and aircraft modeling to programming, modeling and physical and chemical experiments.

              https://sportschools.ru/view-listing.php?id=13470 пулевая стрельба

              https://sportschools.ru/view-listing.php?id=8544 волейбол

              https://sportschools.ru/view-listing.php?id=5876 биатлон

              https://posleurokov.ru/kazan/engineering огромный список бесплатных технических кружков.

              And this is 15 minutes on the Internet. Whining on the forums is certainly more interesting than doing with your children.
              Lying is like yours.
            3. Svarog
              Svarog 9 July 2020 09: 48
              +3
              Quote: savage1976
              Oh, and you're a lover of lying.

              You look at Kazan, firstly, from the links you quoted it’s far from everywhere that it’s free and thirdly, even if it is declared as free, when you come with a child they will tell you what you need to pay for, but if a miracle happens and Since everything is really free, then the queue there will be scheduled for the quarter. In general, nothing is free now.
              There is really free only in Moscow, when I lived there, then yes, a very large and wide selection of free circles for children. In the regions, especially in Tatarstan, there is nothing for free already .. well, or almost nothing.
            4. savage1976
              savage1976 9 July 2020 13: 04
              -3
              I wonder why my children go for free and do not pay anything for anything. But you will not consider the purchase of swimming trunks for the pool pay per section? Or will you? Or should they also give swimming trunks for free? And when at home on a computer the project from the section is finalized, is this also a fee for the circle? Electricity is consumed. I’m not in Kazan, I’m just in a hole called Magadan and for some reason we have a huge number of free circles and sections, including in the villages. Perhaps we are in another country, or parents still tear off the back of the couch.
            5. Svarog
              Svarog 9 July 2020 13: 18
              +2
              Quote: savage1976
              Probably in another country

              Probably .. here's an example of free sites. I live in Naberezhnye Chelny, for this reason, the Chelninsky site .. and everything seems to be ok, everything is free around .. But if you dig deeper ..
              https://naberezhnye-chelny.kartasporta.ru/section/34094
              Here's a link, swimming in the Dolphin Children's and Youth Sports School is written - free .. now enter and see below .. swimming training 3980 per month ..
              There are telephones there, try to ring at least one, where for free .. be surprised .. I say goodbye to a sim, tired of proving that the world is not what it seems .. even if it is written for free on the internet laughing
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 9 July 2020 14: 09
          -1
          Oh, and you're a lover of lying. Mugs and sections are all paid. Even the search engine on the phone does not allow laziness. Well, I’ll help a little.

          I'm talking about the merits of the USSR - free circles and sections.
          Whine about paid sections in modern Russia, you - they are not expensive for me - you lived 25 years in a country where prices are 2 times higher
          My children in 3 years have a vocabulary in English, with a 90% probability, more than yours
          Growing bilingual - for now. From the age of 5, I’ll start to give a little Jewish.
          And if you do not like it in modern Russia, where everything is paid, I understand. For me, the state should subsidize sports, science and culture to children whose parents under capitalism are engaged in nostalgia for the glorious Soviet past hi
        3. savage1976
          savage1976 10 July 2020 00: 54
          -1
          Apparently they answered the wrong comment. For modern life completely suits me with the opportunities that it offers and with the benefits that the state provides.
        4. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 10 July 2020 12: 20
          0
          Similarly drinks
          It happens
  3. New Year day
    New Year day 9 July 2020 13: 49
    -1
    Quote: Krasnodar
    switch to the Bismarovo healthcare system with mandatory certification of doctors abroad (remote)

    rave. The training system there and we are so different that foreigners who have received diplomas from us still study there for a year to be able to confirm their Russian diploma.
    Doctors with experience that you need to confirm the qualifications there and improve there. Who will pay for it when there is no money to study here?
  4. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 9 July 2020 16: 14
    0
    I'm talking about something else:
    All exams of students must be taken remotely abroad - it will not cost expensive.
    What will it give? Inability to buy a session.
    As for specialists - in radiotherapy, for example, the whole theory can also be taken remotely.
  5. New Year day
    New Year day 9 July 2020 16: 31
    -1
    Quote: Krasnodar
    All student exams must be remotely taken abroad

    to study here, and exams there? Do the curricula match?
  6. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 9 July 2020 17: 17
    0
    In medical chemistry, medical physics, anatomy, etc. - I think yes. Basic things.
  7. ycuce234-san
    ycuce234-san 12 July 2020 00: 37
    +2
    What will it give? Inability to buy a session.


    And what will prevent this problem from being solved within the country in a much simpler way - by adopting the rule of law on a simplified procedure for recovering the main part of damage by employers (resulting from the incompetence of a specialist) from his educational institution and the leadership of such an institution? This will create a conflict of interests and force to monitor the real quality of specialists - an inverse control relationship is formed.
    Only conflict of material interests, and not some kind of state border, can prevent corruption.
    Giving attestation abroad means: a) giving it to those who will not actually be responsible for anything, b) will greatly simplify corruption, since the attesting party is generally out of the reach of the criminal punishment system, and will the accused be extradited from such educational and attestation organized criminal groups, on the line of Interpol - in general, roulette, c) they will be asked to pay for interstate certification exclusively in dollars, since the wooden gift did not fall to anyone, and this will lead to such specific and painful things as the dependence of the education of generations of the population on the exchange rate existing at the time of education, dollar loans for education (and new "dollar mortgages", only not because of buying a home, but because of paying for education - where can we go without them now), closing budgetary places (you cannot certify them for rubles and they will need to be closed); "dollar zone in education" - any payments to the box offices of educational institutions - in dollars, and, finally - to dollar corruption and extortion among teachers and students, completely replacing the ruble; increasing corruption rates and converting them into dollars; dollar rates of tutors.
    Is this exactly what will benefit the ruble education system?
  8. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 12 July 2020 09: 23
    -1
    Charge a graduate for negligence from Univer? Will not work. They will find 200 reasons why radish is a graduate.
    And abroad - in some sort of Switzerland, they will not be able to re-appoint auditors the day before the examinations in the American system, and who ... The check carried out by a computer.
  9. ycuce234-san
    ycuce234-san 12 July 2020 12: 33
    0
    Charge a graduate for negligence from Univer? Will not work. They will find 200 reasons why radish is a graduate.


    They will not find it - in the first place, now two mastodons are butting for the loot - the employer organization and the educational institution. On both sides - experienced professionals of their field and equal weight categories are fighting.
    Secondly, the depth of the idea is not understood - the rule of law will simultaneously limit the recovery of damage to the graduate and shift the main burden of damage to his graduating institution. It will result in a severe conflict of interests - people need to be released so that the state does not cover financing, but they have to pay for their jambs [from their own] —that means, they need to be taught in a quality manner. With a particular engineer, for example, with his family, often a hostel, a VAZ classic, and salary from cat's tears, such money simply cannot be squandered. Therefore, according to the new rule of law, he will receive his 100-300 thousand fine (it is possible that he will pass the diploma back to the university) and will go to equip his life in a new way, but his mowing alma mater will not get off so easily - she has money and its management and / or owners have money - they will be cowed and caught abroad, shaking out the remaining tens and hundreds of millions of damage.
  10. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 12 July 2020 12: 42
    0
    I can give only Israeli precedents as an example:
    1) Nakosyachevogo doctor deprived of a license to work and write him compensation
    2) In order to protect themselves, Israeli medical institutions send specialists (radiotherapists, for example) for an internship at a research institute that developed a linear accelerator purchased by Jews and in clinics that already use it. Thus, in the case of a jamb from the hospital, bribes are smooth - we did everything we could, a radish specialist, all the demand from him.
  11. ycuce234-san
    ycuce234-san 12 July 2020 13: 20
    +1
    So that's the point - to remove this here is the opportunity to shift damage to convenient "radishes". It is impossible to declare a specialist responsible for the entire amount of damage if the old norm is canceled and the new legal rule states in white that the specialist can only be liable for damage in a limited way, taking into account his actual financial situation and restrictions on the seizure of property, taking into account the safety of his health, life, families, children, etc. and the rest of the banquet is at the expense of the alma mater and its owners. And that's all - the "radishes" will instantly disappear and the graduates will begin to train like astronauts ...
  12. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 12 July 2020 13: 39
    0
    But this will give doctors the will to hammer out for work completely laughing
  13. ycuce234-san
    ycuce234-san 12 July 2020 13: 36
    0
    What is good in the new norm is that it is universal and works with all specialties.
    For example, it will work with both the nuclear engineer and the "girl designer".
    Everything is clear with the atomic scientist, I don’t even give an example here.
    An example with a designer - due to incompetence, in an advertising Internet banner a fragment of a drawing belonging to a Western brand or a music label was used (legally inconsistent). This is a flight. A visit to hundreds of millions of evergreens ... "University - pity to shave!"
  14. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 12 July 2020 13: 39
    0
    Everyone will score for work)).
  15. ycuce234-san
    ycuce234-san 12 July 2020 14: 02
    0
    That is unlikely. But a diploma as a document will gain real value, and this value will be better than passport and citizenship, since now there is a lot of money behind it; salaries will have to be paid at the world level, so that the wrong button wouldn’t be accidentally pressed from hunger. The value of each diploma and each specialty and university will be individual, directly tied to the history of the schools of a particular educational institution. Well, and when hiring, the personnel department will look like a bank in which this diploma will be checked and enlightened on all possible x-rays and positron small scopes and stored in an underground banking special guard.
  16. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 12 July 2020 14: 04
    0
    How unlikely? Now, if after that the university signs a contract with the graduate to cover damage in case of proof of negligence - yes.
  17. ycuce234-san
    ycuce234-san 12 July 2020 14: 25
    0
    Now, if after that the university signs a contract with the graduate to cover damage in case of proof of negligence - yes.


    This contract will be recognized legally void in court - they cannot contradict the contract with the higher legislation (and it will contain the specified rule on the responsibility of the educational institution). If it weren't for this, then the customer could have signed a contract with a murderer for hire and then - "I don't know anything, go to the murderer!"
    If the university generally tries not to let anyone out with a diploma, then it is deprived of state financing and it is bankrupt (this is such a carrot from behind, and it seems to be already in the laws).
  18. ycuce234-san
    ycuce234-san 12 July 2020 01: 42
    0
    In addition, the introduction of dollar-denominated non-state certification will lead to the formation of new negative phenomena outside the education system, let us conditionally call them "drastic cuts in dollar sturgeon" and "grassroots dollar corruption."
    - "grassroots dollar corruption" - everything is simple and clear: dollar corruption has crawled out of the education system. Returning educational dollar loans and / or paying tuition - will create a rush demand for dollars and within the framework of everyday grassroots corruption.
    - "drastic reduction of the dollar sturgeon" - it is more difficult here: the educational system is a mass system and in order to really introduce non-state certification, it will be necessary to redistribute dollar receipts to education. And this means that there will be financially injured and injured, and there will be many of them - and not only the accustomed damned oligarchs or oil and gas workers accustomed to such things, but, for example, car builders, aircraft manufacturers, doctors and pharmacists, who also receive dollars in considerable quantities : As a result, ordinary people will be extremely unhappy with the disappearance of good medicines and medical equipment, special vehicles, such as medical helicopters or medical vehicles, an increase in insurance payments, ticket prices, an increase in accidents due to the inability to buy original spare parts, etc.

    As a result, the wooden, in which its citizens receive income within the country, will become even less necessary in this world - only now not in international relations, but in domestic relations of its citizens.
  19. ycuce234-san
    ycuce234-san 11 July 2020 23: 42
    0
    But you can inherit an apartment in a mortgage for your children, you don’t have to queue for cars and housing for years, etc.


    The government did not even think to abandon the little-advertised idea to calculate the tax on real estate at its market value instead of the cadastral value, it just postponed it, and in general it is part of the concept that human potential is new oil. In general, children and grandchildren can easily, in 40-50 years, simply abandon the vast country "mansions" erected now, and they will become an abandonment of a new, already Russian, era, like the modern corpses of Soviet factories and bomb shelters that provide colorful photographic material for posts diggers and stalkers - new posts will appear, with a colorful, blooming frog swamp in former pools and just a swamp in dungeons, basements and garages; trees growing from the living room floor opening. Naive Buratin, to whom one could foist, this, sucking the last juices, real estate, in order to replace it with a budget urban small-sized - will not be found with fire during the day.
    In this regard, modern apartments are also very poor to be left to posterity - they are too large in area and will be very dear to descendants (wallet naturally, not only as a memory); it is better to leave real estate for children and grandchildren as insurance against the fate of homeless people and residents of new communal apartments of the 21st century, the minimum necessary area and away from hype places and possible renovations and all-Russian construction projects; maybe even in a quiet province, in a small merchant town, where she will survive and survive the times of change.
  20. 72jora72
    72jora72 8 July 2020 22: 07
    +5
    And about the Union of Fairy Tales it is not necessary - 80% intercepted a three-ruble note to pay, five to advance payment, a hundred on a color TV, etc.
    My Dad, working as a simple driver, until 90 he received 990 rubles a month, Mom received somewhere 500 rubles ......
  21. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 8 July 2020 22: 20
    +1
    Not bad. My was a master price in foundry - 130-150, mother teacher - 150-170)).
  22. 72jora72
    72jora72 8 July 2020 22: 22
    +6
    Not bad. My was a master price in foundry - 130-150, mother teacher - 150-170)).
    And my parents wanted to make good money and therefore went to explore Chukotka ........
  23. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 8 July 2020 22: 30
    0
    Correctly done - well done!
  • Alf
    Alf 8 July 2020 19: 28
    +9
    Quote: Hunter 2
    I am glad that Russia is emerging from the pandemic with minimal losses.

    Less kiselevtv look.
  • snucerist
    snucerist 8 July 2020 21: 04
    +2
    Coming out of a pandemic, then?
    Are you also from the cohort of optimists? Of those that the author - is the peak already behind?
    Isn’t it too early to throw caps into the air?
    It’s not that there is no vaccine, even the transmission of the virus has not been clearly defined. Either the airborne droplet ... or aerosol .... or contact ....
    And gentlemen, optimists already order an orchestra of fanfare.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 15: 08
    25
    "Collapse" is a relative concept bully
    It’s for me personally that our owner of a successful company with a staff of highly qualified personnel of 50+ people with 15 years of experience in the company went bankrupt due to the fact that we were NOT allowed to work during the Nedokarantina period - for me it’s collapse - as for employees our company ... Well, think, 50+ people are not migrant workers, on a white salary from 80 mp per month - everyone was on the street and we are looking for a thread that is at least two times smaller in terms of conditions - to feed its families...
    And for the Zaputins, we are overeaters ... and it was not for us in "self-isolation to help" ... with one stroke of the pen they killed a successful business - so it is ... "statistical error" fool laughing
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 8 July 2020 15: 16
      33
      Isolation almost killed our company - orders fell by half, and quarantine in the Navy and in the ports complicated the work .... For now, hold on, but for how long?
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 9 July 2020 09: 35
        0
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        orders fell by half

        I don’t understand who pleases the problems in the Russian company? I know in what incomplete rejoice when a cow died at a neighbor!
    2. alone
      alone 8 July 2020 15: 18
      27
      Quote: Corona without virus
      a successful business was killed with one stroke of the pen - so it is ... "statistical error"

      Unfortunately, cases like yours are more and more .. and after 40 finding a job oh how difficult
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 16: 00
        14
        Quote: lonely
        Quote: Corona without virus
        a successful business was killed with one stroke of the pen - so it is ... "statistical error"

        Unfortunately, cases like yours are more and more .. and after 40 finding a job oh how difficult

        Okay, after 40 ... and, if in my case - after 50 ?! bully
        You call to get a job - even before the interview, it doesn’t reach the job - a couple of questions on qualifications, then about age - then immediately dosvidos laughing
        1. alone
          alone 8 July 2020 16: 02
          16
          Well, about after 50 if a person finds a job, this is heroism hi
          1. Virus-free crown
            Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 16: 06
            13
            Quote: lonely
            Well, about after 50 if a person finds a job, this is heroism hi

            Well, HERE to whom did our company interfere, for example?
            50 pax we multiply by 100 thousand rubles, only a white salary - you just figure it out, our company paid taxes in the form of taxes ?! tongue and now we multiply 0 by 0 - the state will receive stock from our company further laughing lol
            After all, they would have stupidly given the opportunity to work - and our company would have worked for another 15 years ... There were no benefits, no help, nothing - except the opportunity to work ...
            1. helmi8
              helmi8 8 July 2020 18: 42
              +9
              Quote: Corona without virus
              50 pax we multiply by 100 thousand rubles, only a white salary - you just figure it out, our company paid taxes in the form of taxes ?!

              It is clear that twice two - the richer the people (population), the richer the state. Direct dependence of budget income on taxes of citizens. The more a person earns, the more he pays tax. This is probably only our defective managers from the ministries of finance, economic development and other HSE officials do not understand.
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 8 July 2020 16: 45
            +8
            Quote: lonely
            Well, about after 50 if a person finds a job, this is heroism hi

            This is a rare success .. but actually it’s practically not realistic .. After forty-3 years I was without work ..
            1. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 17: 17
              +5
              Quote: Svarog
              Quote: lonely
              Well, about after 50 if a person finds a job, this is heroism hi

              This is a rare success .. but actually it’s practically not realistic .. After forty-3 years I was without work ..

              Well, if I don’t find an official job in the fall, I’ll go to the self-employed and burn this "Under-Pension" with a blue flame - all the same, I plan to live to only 62-63 years old - and this is according to my optimistic forecasts !!! laughing
              1. Alf
                Alf 8 July 2020 19: 31
                +5
                Quote: Corona without virus
                and burn this "Under-Pension" with a blue flame - anyway, I plan to live up to only 62-63 years

                Do not worry about retirement, we have already started throwing in that in 23-25 ​​we will have to make an "unpopular decision" again.
        2. Victorio
          Victorio 8 July 2020 21: 10
          -1
          Quote: Crown without virus
          Quote: lonely
          Quote: Corona without virus
          a successful business was killed with one stroke of the pen - so it is ... "statistical error"

          Unfortunately, cases like yours are more and more .. and after 40 finding a job oh how difficult

          Okay, after 40 ... and, if in my case - after 50 ?! bully
          You call to get a job - even before the interview, it doesn’t reach the job - a couple of questions on qualifications, then about age - then immediately dosvidos laughing

          ===
          an employee was required. judging by the number of comments you give out, it’s quite.
          1. Virus-free crown
            Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 22: 40
            0
            Quote: Victorio
            Quote: Crown without virus
            Quote: lonely
            Quote: Corona without virus
            a successful business was killed with one stroke of the pen - so it is ... "statistical error"

            Unfortunately, cases like yours are more and more .. and after 40 finding a job oh how difficult

            Okay, after 40 ... and, if in my case - after 50 ?! bully
            You call to get a job - even before the interview, it doesn’t reach the job - a couple of questions on qualifications, then about age - then immediately dosvidos laughing

            ===
            an employee was required. judging by the number of comments you give out, it’s quite.

            What was the vacancy? drinks
            1. Victorio
              Victorio 8 July 2020 22: 42
              -1
              Quote: Corona without virus
              What was the vacancy?

              ===
              scribbler
              1. Virus-free crown
                Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 22: 44
                +2
                Quote: Victorio
                Quote: Corona without virus
                What was the vacancy?

                ===
                scribbler

                no-no-no))) I’m Glavred VO banned like a scribbler tongue laughing
    3. Valter1364
      Valter1364 8 July 2020 16: 18
      12
      There are tens and hundreds of thousands like you. My two businesses are also on the verge of bankruptcy. Almost twenty years of work and everything down the drain. So far, from 50+ there are only seven people left. And of course, white bookkeeping and a good salary with a full social package. How long? For me, this is also a collapse!
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 16: 23
        12
        Quote: Valter1364
        There are tens and hundreds of thousands like you. My two businesses are also on the verge of bankruptcy. Almost twenty years of work and everything down the drain. So far, from 50+ there are only seven people left. And of course, white bookkeeping and a good salary with a full social package. How long? For me, this is also a collapse!

        That is why I say that I will have to wait until autumn ... If I don’t get a job by the fall, there will be replenishment in the regiment " laughing If the state spits frankly in my face, it will be difficult to expect from me that I will wash myself and thank you for spitting bully
        1. Valter1364
          Valter1364 8 July 2020 16: 25
          14
          Unfortunately this is the case. And he doesn’t even spit, but ignores, which is even more offensive. The authorities simply made it clear that for her the layer of society, which brought in the form of taxes to the budget a lot of money, plebs.
          1. Virus-free crown
            Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 16: 30
            +4
            Quote: Valter1364
            Unfortunately this is the case. And he doesn’t even spit, but ignores, which is even more offensive. The authorities simply made it clear that for her the layer of society, which brought in the form of taxes to the budget a lot of money, plebs.

            Unfortunately this is the case... crying
      2. lis-ik
        lis-ik 8 July 2020 17: 25
        +7
        Quote: Valter1364
        And of course, white bookkeeping and a good salary with a full social package. How long? For me, this is also a collapse!

        But the scum who arranged this hysteria and earned everything in it is in order.
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 July 2020 18: 04
      -18 qualifying.
      It’s you who contact your owner - why he didn’t have backup means of an airbag for a rainy day, but the answer is most likely known - he just lived one day, like the other tens of thousands of idiots.
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 18: 17
        14
        Quote: Vadim237
        It’s you who contact your owner - why he didn’t have backup means of an airbag for a rainy day, but the answer is most likely known - he just lived one day, like the other tens of thousands of idiots.

        We take the calculator in our hands and roughly estimate ... bully 50 people are multiplied by 100.000 rubles. (the average white salary for the company) is multiplied by 3 months - and the resulting amount is multiplied by two - this will roughly be all taxes on the white salary and the company + office pay + etc. etc.)))
        Total: 50 * 100000 * 3 * 2 = 30 million rubles. rough recourse Yes, indeed, and why was this my former boss not holding 30 !!! million rubles soooo ... in a suitcase ... just in case ... laughing laughing laughing he is a villain, a villain wassat lol
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 July 2020 10: 52
          -4
          With a staff of 50 people and a white salary of 100000 - your office should have a monthly turnover of more than 20 million and what do you want to say that your boss couldn’t save 30 million for a rainy day - you rub it in your grandmother’s shop, but not to me.
          1. Virus-free crown
            Virus-free crown 9 July 2020 13: 30
            +2
            Quote: Vadim237
            With a staff of 50 people and a white salary of 100000 - your office should have a monthly turnover of more than 20 million and what do you want to say that your boss couldn’t save 30 million for a rainy day - you rub it in your grandmother’s shop, but not to me.

            Do you understand the difference between "turnover", "margin" and "profit" ?! laughing lol
            Having - purely for example - a turnover of 1 lard - you can have a loss of 2 lard hi
            My boss, of course, had a "scratch" of 10+ hazel grouses - the current was not enough for 3 months that we were out of work ... crying In the worst nightmare, he could not have foreseen that 3 !!! of the month our company will not work ...
  • parusnik
    parusnik 8 July 2020 15: 22
    14
    And at the same time they say about the second wave of coronavirus, which will be in the fall ... And about measures that should be taken especially in educational institutions ...
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 8 July 2020 15: 36
      20
      Quote: parusnik
      And at the same time they say about the second wave of coronavirus, which will be in the fall ... And about measures that should be taken especially in educational institutions ...

      They say that children will study remotely, at least until January 2021 .. That’s how Gref’s plan will come true and his ilk and our children will receive a fake education .. But how much can be optimized ..
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 8 July 2020 15: 44
        +9
        A friend told me about the continuation of the distance, he works at our local technical school ... Horrified, plus the fact that they don’t have enough teachers now, and more than last year, they recruited twice a year to different faculties .. He spat from winter of this method ...
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 8 July 2020 15: 51
          10
          Quote: parusnik
          He spat in the winter from this method ...

          Not only teachers spit from distance, parents are more .. There are schools where everything is organized very poorly, my middle daughter is just studying at such a place .. My daughter is very responsible and always carried out all the tasks .. only half of them were not checked, got lost .. and set the top three at the same time .. I had to raise it in two months and prove that everything was sent, as a result, the ratings were set correctly, but it took me two days to prove ..
          Well, and most importantly, such a form of training can do without a teacher at all, which means that a child will remain without in-depth knowledge .. Everything is in the format of an exam and tests. So it will be, those who have money will study in private schools, and who do not have it remotely .. And what will we get in the future? What kind of development can we talk about ..
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 8 July 2020 16: 23
            +9
            Nonsense these homework on the Internet ... A friend leads in three groups of the same course, they sent him the same work on his subject under different surnames .. all the groups ... He tested on his subject, the tests were different from the total 90 people passed on 3,4,5 total 15 people, despite the fact that at hand were handing over smartphones, computers ... And he didn’t have one like that ... here you have a remote education ...
          2. Victorio
            Victorio 8 July 2020 23: 36
            0
            Quote: Svarog
            So it will be, those who have money will study in private schools, and who do not have it remotely .. And what will we get in the future? What kind of development can we talk about ..

            ===
            this is not only in Russia, the "trend" is
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 8 July 2020 15: 54
      +8
      Quote: parusnik
      And at the same time they say about the second wave of coronavirus, which will be in the fall ...

      The second wave of coronavirus should begin right in time for the election. Here, the "red coward" was pleased that the voting process, stretched out over time, more than suits the authorities. Watch how everything turned out great and neat.
      These figures reproach us for the undemocratic elections in the USSR - there was no alternative. Right now, an alternative has appeared, and if in the USSR you could not have come to the vote, and this would not have affected the overall result, now you can not go - they will vote for you.
      Rumor has it that the introduction of serfdom is not far off ... wassat
      There is a meeting of the Government or the Duma, and maybe all the officials. Summarize the results of the activity. - "We all have been working for a long time and already have everything that is possible: real estate in Russia and abroad, factories, newspapers, ships, land, mineral resources, etc. It's time now to think about the people." There are whispers, murmurs, stomps throughout the hall ... - "I think 500 souls for each will be enough for a start."
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 8 July 2020 16: 25
        +6
        Even if you come to the polls, they have already voted for you .... smile
    3. alone
      alone 8 July 2020 16: 06
      +9
      Quote: parusnik
      at the same time they say about the second wave of coronavirus, which will be in autumn

      That's just in time for the fall and sell the belt. . He will not need it in the winter.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 8 July 2020 16: 27
        +6
        Do not sell the belt by autumn, the market will be oversaturated with belts ... There will be many more sellers than buyers .. smile
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 8 July 2020 18: 59
          +3
          Quote: parusnik
          Do not sell the belt by autumn, the market will be oversaturated with belts ... There will be many more sellers than buyers .. smile

          And there will be no policemen’s belt and they will immediately check STRAFFFF !!!
  • Ragnar Lodbrok
    Ragnar Lodbrok 8 July 2020 15: 36
    17
    but the belts have to be tightened

    Yes, as much as possible, damn it.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 8 July 2020 15: 47
      15
      How many holes on the belt will be enough, and even more will have to be punched ... smile Yes, don’t worry, the amendments have come into force every day, they’re gaining strength, we won’t notice how the belts will have to be loosened, we will grow fat in bold ...
      1. Olfred
        Olfred 8 July 2020 18: 16
        +4
        Soon the belts of the people on the neck will be tightened wassat hi
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 8 July 2020 15: 39
    17
    Forecasts did not come true due to areas that impudently put what they could on the insane orders of Moscow. Thanks to the regional leaders who did not participate in the craziness. Even if, of course, they do not care about us, they saved their businesses and payments, but the result is obvious - the economy is still breathing, albeit with difficulty.
    However, more and more cries about the "second wave" are already being heard. One involuntarily begins to think that a rather popular Bulgarian professor, who openly says that our authorities were ordered to shut down their economy, is right. If the first time failed, there will be a "second wave". By the way, he also says that our "stabilization fund" has been completely stolen by the Americans. With the consent and connivance of our powerful government. All this is apparently true, so there is no talk of tightening the belts.
    Everything is much funnier. After the "second wave" everything will surely collapse.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 July 2020 18: 27
      -5
      Tomorrow some other crap will come from China like anthrax in a hybrid with coronavirus - killing people within a few days after infection, but people like you will continue to scream that there is no disease all this is invented nonsense with a complete denial of reality and people like you continue you will walk the claudia horseradish at a distance and all the means of protection - but for the time being, until the disease itself grabs your ass, understanding will come right away, but it will be too late with the "Regional Leaders" -Brazilian President is an example to follow, who have nothing but shit in their heads, the same will happen.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 9 July 2020 08: 58
        0
        "Like me." Yeah. I was ill in the winter. I analyzed the available information, I can do it. And based on my experience and analysis, I made conclusions. And then he joined "like me", stupid and mindless creatures ... If a REAL illness appears, and not a banal cold illness, with such guidance and similar measures, we will all die out. "People like you" are the first. It's a pity. It would be better if you first see everything with your own eyes.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 July 2020 10: 46
          +1
          What did you analyze there - a virus infection analyzer. If you still think that coronovirus is an invented disease, treat the head. And such measures as were adopted in Russia were all over the world.
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 8 July 2020 15: 52
    -3
    And the whole world will have to. Who will benefit from this is generally unclear
  • Nikolay73
    Nikolay73 8 July 2020 16: 09
    0
    Let’s live first, and there we’ll see ... and count.
  • alone
    alone 8 July 2020 16: 18
    15
    There is a rally. The president is speaking. .
    - the belts will have to be tightened, there will be no bread this year .. will have to be content with rye.
    One man screams ..- cheers! We will work 10 hours.
    A year passes. Again, the president speaks.
    - They did not manage to harvest rye this year.
    Have to be content with potatoes.
    Cry again, we will work for 12 hours.
    Another year has passed. Again the president speaks:
    - This year there will be no bread, no faces and no potatoes. Drought.
    Again a cry .. Uraaaaaa, we will work around the clock and seven days a week!
    The president asks: -Who is this person?
    They answer him: -Do not pay attention, this is a local grave digger. . Works at the cemetery ..
    P. C. This is a joke .. But it makes you think
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 8 July 2020 16: 27
      10
      Quote: lonely
      There is a rally. The president is speaking. .
      - the belts will have to be tightened, there will be no bread this year .. will have to be content with rye.
      One man screams ..- cheers! We will work 10 hours.
      A year passes. Again, the president speaks.
      - They did not manage to harvest rye this year.
      Have to be content with potatoes.
      Cry again, we will work for 12 hours.
      Another year has passed. Again the president speaks:
      - This year there will be no bread, no faces and no potatoes. Drought.
      Again a cry .. Uraaaaaa, we will work around the clock and seven days a week!
      The president asks: -Who is this person?
      They answer him: -Do not pay attention, this is a local grave digger. . Works at the cemetery ..
      P. C. This is a joke .. But it makes you think

      It would be funny - if it weren’t so sad recourse
      But seriously - my homeless acquaintance, who sometimes earns money at the local cemetery by digging graves for food and a bottle, has been plowing like Papa Carlo for two weeks now ... he says, he’s rolled over ...
  • NF68
    NF68 8 July 2020 16: 22
    -1
    Belts are tightened or have already begun to do this, not only in Russia.
    1. Alf
      Alf 8 July 2020 19: 36
      +7
      Quote: NF68
      Belts are tightened or have already begun to do this, not only in Russia.

      Yes, I deeply care that "there", I don't care what is going on with Russia, but "there" let everyone suffocate at least once.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 July 2020 10: 59
        +1
        Their tightening of the belts will completely affect the Russian economy in a negative direction - according to rough estimates, this year Russia's exports will sink by $ 170 billion, which is 11 trillion rubles minus from our GDP - So, I don't care what’s there.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 8 July 2020 16: 44
    0
    That's really not so Schaub fun, but not so Schaub catastrophe ..... we probably used to live in a state like that!
    What interesting people we have !!!
  • Enky
    Enky 8 July 2020 17: 00
    +2
    Quote: Valter1364
    There are tens and hundreds of thousands like you.
    Not at all. Such as us, to fulfill our plan, it’s completely not enough, the plan for an economic catastrophe was completely failed ... as a result, my self-isolation was prolonged until July 12 and, damn it, we didn’t fulfill the plan for bankruptcies, unemployment and the degree of social discontent again, today we reported that the issue of extending isolation until August 12 was being considered ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 July 2020 18: 30
      -8
      You will have to choose your life and the health of others or your bankruptcy.
  • Enky
    Enky 8 July 2020 17: 06
    +3
    Quote: Mikhail3
    Thanks to the regional leaders who did not participate in the craziness.
    you’re marching in the wrong country, it probably is in your country, and in our country regional leaders in a certain position run ahead of the engine and prolong their isolation, just to fulfill the plan for bankruptcy and social tension.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 8 July 2020 17: 06
    +3
    It’s not like the belts are pulling us, but rather a noose around our neck. What can you do about it? Extension she is, for a long time.
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  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 July 2020 18: 01
    +3


    Under the communists, they called for a brighter future.
    Under Yeltsin dragged on for democracy
    And now in the name of what (whom). And then keep your social distance. Rotenberg will tighten his belt, let’s keep up.
  • Olfred
    Olfred 8 July 2020 18: 13
    +3
    The figure announced by Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov of the treasury shortfall due to the pandemic and falling oil prices, the sum in annual terms may well amount to a trillion rubles.
    Strange, but it seemed to me that on masks and antiseptics grandmas washed a lot ...
    Well it’s nothing, now taxes will be raised and beaten hi
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 8 July 2020 18: 15
    +1
    And so there was nothing good in the economy, now the collapse is complete. I have friends who have been reduced, to whom the RFP has been reduced several times, and some work without RFP, delays are like in the 90s
  • Asad
    Asad 8 July 2020 18: 39
    +2
    ,, The consequences of the pandemic ,, the infection won? There are 107 sick and 4 dead in Novosibirsk! 100 people get sick steadily every day, in the news they write there is nowhere to take patients.
  • Victorio
    Victorio 8 July 2020 21: 36
    -4
    the saga of whining ended on constitutional amendments, now we will continue on the consequences of the pandemic. work no end
  • bandabas
    bandabas 8 July 2020 22: 23
    +1
    As expected, about 75% for the "amendments". Either people are insane, or one of two things.
  • awdrgy
    awdrgy 8 July 2020 22: 28
    +1
    And the "coronavirus" will not end - it is now forever And the economy is not connected with it at all - it is connected with restrictions, the obligation of which can be questioned And the belts need to be tightened and it is indispensable Imagine this phrase - "And now we eat from the belly and the monthly you won't spend a salary in six months "-Yeah it was stupid b)
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 July 2020 11: 07
      +1
      "With restrictions, the obligation of which can be questioned" - When you get sick and decide to call an ambulance and you will be answered that calls are not accepted in view of the critical overload of all hospitals and medical staff - then all doubts about restrictions will instantly disappear, but it will be already late for you and other millions of people who will fall ill at once and collapse the entire medical care system in the country and you will not find medicines in pharmacies either - because they will be instantly swept away by the very millions of patients left without help. This is so introductory for flatbrain adepts.
      1. awdrgy
        awdrgy 13 July 2020 14: 33
        0
        I am not sick and I am not going to. I have never been vaccinated against the flu and have never been sick, but how frightened they are, how frightened they are, even to the point of dismissal (especially when they switched to budget work) And the statistics are the same for at least the last 4 years in my city. That's strange. ? This is about limitations and this is my personal experience. But if I get sick, "those who fear the kingdom of heaven do not have!" Yes, and no one will get sick at once More than half a year has passed And where are the depopulated countries mowed down by the monstrous disease? We do not have them We do not have Moscow or St. Petersburg, but also not a village, but the current restrictions are observed on paper (which affected incomes) and they are also fined, so we run from the police, although it is worth noting that they try not to bend the stick and why there is no mass pestilence, but there is media escalating the situation (around us we see one thing and on TV-another) How to understand this ?!
  • sen
    sen 9 July 2020 05: 15
    0
    Profit above all. We have not seen many regions of Avifavir, Arelivir and Coronavir in our eyes, and they are already massively going to ship them abroad: to Latin America, etc.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 July 2020 11: 08
      +2
      Their production is just unfolding in the coming months, they plan to increase production from 60000 packages to 600000 per month.
  • adler87
    adler87 9 July 2020 13: 52
    +2
    How strange is this, inflation is zero, and the price increase is 2,6 percent? My skis don’t go, or math tells us something completely different.
  • Aag
    Aag 14 July 2020 20: 40
    0
    Quote: A Makarov
    Quote: Svarog
    People have been addictive for 6 years .. and billionaires only multiply.

    And this is how it works: several thousand people tightened their belts - and squeezed out a billionaire

    And it swam! Bravo!
    Well, nothing, nothing ... Don’t eat, don’t ..... you won’t squeeze out a billionaire!