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In Moscow, on suspicion of treason, an adviser to the head of Roscosmos was detained

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In Moscow, on suspicion of treason, an adviser to the head of Roscosmos was detained

In Moscow, FSB officers detained adviser to the head of Roskosmos on information policy, Ivan Safronov. According to the FSB press service, he is suspected of treason.


According to intelligence, Ivan Safronov, two months ago, who took over as Rogozin’s adviser on information policy, worked for one of NATO’s intelligence agencies and passed on to her secret information about military-technical cooperation and the Russian defense industry.

In Moscow, adviser to the general director of the state corporation Roscosmos, Safronov Ivan Ivanovich, was detained. Safronov, fulfilling the tasks of one of the NATO special services, collected and handed over to its representative information about military-technical cooperation, defense and security of the Russian Federation constituting a state secret

- said in a statement.


The Roskosmos itself confirmed the detention of Safronov, but stated that his detention was in no way connected with work in the state corporation. Allegedly, the detention is related to the activities that Safronov conducted as a journalist. Currently, a criminal case has been opened against the detainee under Art. 275 (High Treason) of the Criminal Code, he faces up to 20 years in prison.

Reportedly, before his appointment to Roscosmos, Safronov worked for Kommersant and Vedomosti, and he covered the activities of the military-industrial complex, the space industry, as well as military and military-technical cooperation. He graduated from the Higher School of Economics (HSE) with a degree in Journalism.
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  1. Finches
    Finches 7 July 2020 12: 19 New
    36
    The mask has sold out ... bad person! However, since he completed this HSE miscarriage, he was still recruited there in his first year!
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 7 July 2020 12: 32 New
      13
      On the count put a ghoul.
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 7 July 2020 14: 47 New
        +8
        Ivan Safronov was born in Moscow on May 18, 1990. He graduated from the Higher School of Economics with a degree in Journalism. In 2010–2019, he was a correspondent and special correspondent of Kommersant, and in 2019–2020, he was a special correspondent for the Vedomosti newspaper. He covered the activities of the military-industrial complex, the space industry, as well as military and military-technical cooperation.
        The father of the detainee, a former officer of the Military Space Forces Ivan Safronov Sr., after leaving the army for a long time worked in the military department of the newspaper Kommersant. Good knowledge of the situation in the army, a large circle of acquaintances in the army structures helped Ivan Safronov from time to time blow up the information space with news about problems in the Russian army, as well as about the supply of Russian weapons.
        As Kommersant wrote immediately after the death of its journalist, shortly before his death, Safronov Sr., in particular, was going to write about possible deliveries of Russian weapons to Syria and Iran, including via Belarus. Publication could cause an international scandal.

        It is not clear what is happening at Roscosmos and the Higher School of Economics. These names have been around for a long time.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 7 July 2020 18: 54 New
          +3
          Is that the adviser to the head of Roscosmos was JOURNALIST ?? !! belay
          I have no words. Only emotions.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 7 July 2020 19: 14 New
            +1
            Quote: Shurik70
            Is that the adviser to the head of Roscosmos was JOURNALIST ?? !! belay
            I have no words. Only emotions.

            In Germany, the Minister of Defense is a gynecologist, and even a woman. fellow
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 9 July 2020 00: 19 New
              0
              Pickets in support of the "honest journalist" are already being held.
              There Ksenia Sobchak noted.
              Dozens of people detained in Moscow for pickets in support of adviser to the head of Roskomos, Ivan Safronov

              Dozens of people were detained in Moscow for pickets in support of the adviser to the head of Roskomos, Ivan Safronov. Ksenia Sobchak was also taken to the department. Safronov, a former Kremlin pool journalist, was arrested for two months. He is accused of high treason.

              Submitted by Russian America TV Wednesday, July 8, 2020
          2. w70
            w70 9 July 2020 06: 43 New
            -1
            By the way, your Stalin was a half-educated seminarian, and there was nothing Generalissimo, he commanded the fronts
      2. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 7 July 2020 15: 35 New
        +1
        This is inhumane.

        Vampires stick a stake in the heart)))

        Under Comrade Stalin, there was a cure, they say ... Forehead was smeared with greenhouse.
    2. newcomer
      newcomer 7 July 2020 12: 42 New
      46
      "Vedomosti", "Kommersant", VSE_complete set of a traitor.
      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 7 July 2020 13: 08 New
        10
        Sold the drawings for the trampoline? That's right, things went uphill for Mask right away!
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 7 July 2020 13: 36 New
          +4
          And sharply uphill, after a series of setbacks.
      2. lis-ik
        lis-ik 7 July 2020 14: 46 New
        -3
        Quote: newbie
        "Vedomosti", "Kommersant", VSE_complete set of a traitor.

        What's wrong with Kommersant? A purely business newspaper. Or difficult to read? There are all sorts of indices, quotes.
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 7 July 2020 17: 39 New
          +3
          No, why is it difficult, just unpleasant. We have seen these "quotes" _ on our subject, not sickly little articles rivet, all under the dictation of foreign agents.
    3. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 7 July 2020 13: 25 New
      18
      All graduates of the HSE are agents of the influence of the State Department. They even exist in the government.!
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 7 July 2020 14: 55 New
        +4
        I have no doubt about this if all the money from the sale of national wealth and resources goes west to support their economies.
    4. Civil
      Civil 7 July 2020 13: 26 New
      +5
      This .... journalist and drilled the Union, the shavings in Proton are the same he ... that's who is to blame for everything. Rogozin has nothing to do with it.
    5. smart ass
      smart ass 7 July 2020 14: 16 New
      +4
      It’s a pity that I don’t
      1. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 7 July 2020 15: 37 New
        -1
        He has many "wonderful events" ahead of him.
    6. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 7 July 2020 16: 35 New
      +2
      IN, climbed .... And are not afraid, open ... Maybe they should be well checked ???

      The Kommersant Publishing House issued a statement that severely assessed the actions of the special services in connection with the arrest on charges of treason of adviser to the head of Roskosmos, former journalist of the publishing house Ivan Safronov.https: //www.znak.com/2020-07-07 / izdatelskiy_dom_kommersant_vystupil_s_zayavleniem_po_delu_ivana_safronova

      Znak.com Editorial Statement on Ivan Safronov’s Case The FSB’s allegations against Ivan sound vague and vague. The essence of the charges has not been communicated to the public, evidence is not presented.
      https://www.znak.com/2020-07-07/zayavlenie_redakcii_znak_com_o_dele_ivana_safronova

      Pickets began in front of the FSB building in support of the detained Ivan Safronov, who is suspected of high treason. Now, with a single picket outside the building of the department, there is a special correspondent and the head of the international department of Kommersant, Elena Chernenko.

      Update as of 14:40 Moscow time: Elena Chernenko was detained.
      https://www.znak.com/2020-07-07/u_zdaniya_fsb_v_moskve_nachalis_pikety_v_podderzhku_zaderzhannogo_ivana_safronova
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 7 July 2020 23: 13 New
        +3
        Yeah, especially since I’ve been in operational development since I was 12, I’m afraid the juicy bush will be removed
    7. Fan
      Fan 7 July 2020 17: 34 New
      +4
      Quote: Finches
      The mask has sold out ... bad person! However, since he completed this HSE miscarriage, he was still recruited there in his first year!

      But you are right! This is the HSE, the State Department's "Aspen's Nest" ..
      Overclock nafig ..
      1. Dmitry10SPb
        Dmitry10SPb 7 July 2020 21: 10 New
        0
        He probably had sarcasm. Unclear like that. For a really good university. Many thousands of students. In many ways, a leader in Russian higher education. And the State Department is, in American terms, just a foreign ministry.
    8. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 July 2020 17: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: Finches
      However, once he graduated from this HSE miscarriage

      And again, HSE, she did not understand in Moscow, or in New York.
    9. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 7 July 2020 19: 01 New
      +2
      Graduated from the Higher School of Economics (HSE) with a degree in Journalism.
      Quote: Finches
      The mask has sold out ... bad person! However, since he completed this HSE miscarriage, he was still recruited there in his first year!

      Recruited when lured to enter there! And judging by what happened next, apart from "Economics" and "Journalism" they taught exactly the craft of spy! It's bad that nowadays people are hired not because of their professional qualities and skills, but because of the flexibility of the person who is accepted by the authorities!
  2. Lopatov
    Lopatov 7 July 2020 12: 22 New
    22
    Graduated from the Higher School of Economics (HSE)

    Maybe something to fix in the conservatory? (C)
    1. Woodman
      Woodman 7 July 2020 12: 26 New
      +8
      Quote: Spade
      Maybe something to fix in the conservatory? (C)

      Well, except that "put a machine gun on the roof. So that canned food is not stolen."
    2. svp67
      svp67 7 July 2020 12: 42 New
      15
      Quote: Spade
      Maybe something to fix in the conservatory? (C)

      Yeah, it’s worth ... level it with the ground and fill it with salt
      1. sds87
        sds87 7 July 2020 15: 59 New
        +6
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Spade
        Maybe something to fix in the conservatory? (C)

        Yeah, it’s worth ... level it with the ground and fill it with salt

        Why so clumsy? What are the buildings guilty of? It is necessary to replace the composition of managers and change the agenda. After all, it is well known that in order to conquer even a country, one does not need to send troops into it. It is enough to put your man there as a manager. And in the case of the HSE, a group of their managers. But if they don’t do this, but, on the contrary, everywhere give green light to ideas and people coming out of the walls of the HSE, then this nest has a very high roof.
        1. svp67
          svp67 7 July 2020 17: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: sds87
          What are the buildings guilty of?

          "Carthage must be destroyed ..."
          1. sds87
            sds87 7 July 2020 17: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: sds87
            What are the buildings guilty of?

            As a symbol ... get destroyed

            Are you by any chance not one of those who love to demolish monuments to Lenin? Also characters of their kind. Not a building makes people, but vice versa. How many historical buildings have changed their functionality over the years (and some over the centuries) of existence? Yes, practically everything. It’s necessary to remove bad people, not demolish buildings.
    3. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 7 July 2020 12: 51 New
      +2
      In both conservatories ...
      Roscosmos itself confirmed the arrest of Safronov, but stated that his arrest had nothing to do with his work at the state corporation. wassat
      1. novel66
        novel66 7 July 2020 13: 03 New
        +4
        well, he used to knock before and tapped, in space, maybe he didn’t have time yet .. Ruslan hi
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 7 July 2020 13: 09 New
          0
          Novel, hi what did I learn the state secrets of Vedomosti and Kommersant? winked
          But the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov, on the contrary, claims that "this detention is in no way connected with the journalistic activities that Ivan Safronov was previously engaged in," who previously worked in the presidential pool.
          1. novel66
            novel66 7 July 2020 13: 18 New
            +5
            in Roskosmos there are no secrets - there Americans just buy what they need
            1. slipped
              slipped 7 July 2020 16: 40 New
              +1
              Quote: novel xnumx
              in Roskosmos there are no secrets - there Americans just buy what they need


              At Roskosmos, Americans are buying finished products from our rocket and space industry, because they are cheaper and better than their own.
          2. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 7 July 2020 13: 28 New
            -4
            Stunned. Presidential Pool, Holy of Holies. Designed to puncture.
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 7 July 2020 13: 33 New
              +1
              We have all the media working for liberals, so there’s no saint of holies there negative
              1. 4ekist
                4ekist 7 July 2020 15: 18 New
                +4
                This journalist covered the activities of the military-industrial complex, the space industry, as well as military and military-technical cooperation. But did he even serve in the army? what did he cover? or here father’s connections worked when this young offspring got a job.
            2. syndicalist
              syndicalist 7 July 2020 14: 44 New
              +1
              Quote: tralflot1832
              Stunned. Presidential Pool, Holy of Holies. Designed to puncture.

              Do you think? It seems that this is exactly what they wanted from him. Precisely because the "presidential pool"
            3. The Siberian barber
              The Siberian barber 7 July 2020 17: 51 New
              +2
              Well, if you recall Brilyov, a British citizen, frantically receiving how to love his homeland, from one of the main TV channels, then this is no longer a puncture
      2. K-612-O
        K-612-O 7 July 2020 14: 05 New
        +8
        So he works there for 2 months.
        And the merchant is still a Russophobic trash with muddy financing. Sheets generally sit on grants.
        Freedom of speech is blat, I don’t need it like that.
      3. Galleon
        Galleon 7 July 2020 15: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Tank jacket
        Roscosmos itself confirmed the arrest of Safronov, but stated that his arrest had nothing to do with his work at the state corporation.

        Did they read his materials, which he sent to curators? The main thing is to blur with a smart look.
    4. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 7 July 2020 14: 00 New
      0
      Burn, chair backing the door.
    5. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 7 July 2020 15: 26 New
      0
      Demolish the conservatory !!!
  3. Borik
    Borik 7 July 2020 12: 23 New
    +7
    Wherever Western agents spit everywhere. Ragozin’s adviser turned out to be an agent, and where before his appointment to this position did the SB of the corporation and the FSB look?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 7 July 2020 12: 37 New
      10
      Quote: Borik
      . Ragozin’s adviser turned out to be an agent, and where before his appointment to this position did the SB of the corporation and the FSB look?

      In this case, it is probably inappropriate to mention SB "Rosskosmos", but the FSB obviously "led" this spy, and the appointment to such a high position, apparently part of the plan, operational development - "so as not to scare"...
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 7 July 2020 12: 43 New
        +1
        Good idea.
      2. Wedmak
        Wedmak 7 July 2020 12: 54 New
        +6
        For me, no spy should even get close to such high positions. They should be cut down already upon entering the very first position with an acquaintance with the state secret.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 7 July 2020 12: 55 New
          +7
          Quote: Wedmak
          For me, no spy should even get close to such high positions. They should be cut down already upon entering the very first position with an acquaintance with the state secret.

          It would be so simple, and another life would be yes
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 7 July 2020 13: 01 New
            0
            Duc and the FSB guys are not students. It is clear that it’s not easy, there are entire intelligence services. But the merged information is already a loss. And it is not known where it can get out and which side.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 7 July 2020 13: 06 New
              +9
              Quote: Wedmak
              But the merged information is already a loss. And it is not known where it can get out and which side.

              It is not yet known what information the spy Yong merged under the FSB cap. yes And who else will not weakly hiccup from receiving such "information" laughing

              Please do not primitize the activities of the FSB ...
              1. Metlik
                Metlik 7 July 2020 14: 09 New
                -2
                Quote: Insurgent
                It’s not yet known what information Spy Yong leaked

                If he was not a double agent, but obviously not, he merged everything he could access. You can learn a lot in such a position, so the risk is not worth the game.
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 7 July 2020 15: 57 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Metlik

                  If he was not a double agent, but obviously not, he merged everything he could access.

                  Or the fact that for some time, being under the tacit control of the office, specialists from the FSB slipped him, that is, "misinformation"?

                  You don’t consider such a moment from the activities of counterintelligence?
                  1. Metlik
                    Metlik 7 July 2020 16: 01 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    Or the fact that for some time, being under the secret control of the FSB, they slipped him, that is, "misinformation"?

                    For this, half of Roskosmos employees must be recruited by the FSB, or he was sitting in his office and did not communicate with anyone except his secretary.
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 7 July 2020 16: 05 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Metlik
                      For this, half of Roskosmos employees should be recruited by the FSB

                      Do you think he worked for the USA for only two months? And what "half of the employees" are you talking about, only those who have access to secrets, or cleaners and janitors as well?

                      If those who really have access, their circle is limited, and greatly yes
                      1. Metlik
                        Metlik 7 July 2020 16: 34 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        If those who really have access, their circle is limited

                        There is a meeting of the leadership of Roscosmos. Heads of departments plan work, take stock. And then Safonov leaves and Rogozin says - well, now the show is over, let's discuss real plans. It’s ridiculous.
      3. bk316
        bk316 7 July 2020 13: 23 New
        +4
        apparently part of the plan, operational development - "so as not to scare away" ...

        100% in May he came there two months ago .....
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 7 July 2020 12: 23 New
    -3
    "Cool" !!! A Shozh before such a valuable frame to the secret of the state did not bring?
  5. iouris
    iouris 7 July 2020 12: 24 New
    +8
    Treason is impossible in Roscosmos: Roscosmos officially cooperates with the enemy.
    1. slipped
      slipped 7 July 2020 12: 26 New
      -4
      Quote: iouris
      Treason is impossible in Roscosmos: Roscosmos officially cooperates with the enemy.


      Do you cooperate with the enemy too?
    2. cniza
      cniza 7 July 2020 16: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: iouris
      Treason is impossible in Roscosmos: Roscosmos officially cooperates with the enemy.


      Did you become read? lol
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 7 July 2020 19: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      Treason is impossible in Roscosmos: Roscosmos officially cooperates with the enemy.

      But what about Roscosmos? We also officially cooperate with the United States in Afghanistan, Syria ... with a potential and very old ENEMY. FSB-ik Patrushev already laments about this, saying that cooperation does not work. And the fact that drug trafficking from Afghanistan has increased 10 times thanks to mattresses, so this is apparently not a problem for our helmsmen. We are cooperating in Syria ... after Mosul, who turned the mattresses into a ghost town, it’s not so much to cooperate with them ... there’s a big need to deal with zapadlo on one field. Ugh ...
  6. Deniska999
    Deniska999 7 July 2020 12: 24 New
    -12
    In two months he managed to dig up secrets and immediately leaked them? Strange, of course.
    1. slipped
      slipped 7 July 2020 12: 25 New
      -2
      Quote: Deniska999
      In two months he managed to dig up secrets and immediately leaked them? Strange, of course.


      in the same place it is written: "I worked in the editions" Kommersant "and" Vedomosti "" - from then and merged.
      1. Deniska999
        Deniska999 7 July 2020 12: 34 New
        -4
        Oh yes, the famous article on replacing Matvienko with Naryshkin)
        1. slipped
          slipped 7 July 2020 12: 37 New
          +3
          Quote: Deniska999
          Oh yes, the famous article on replacing Matvienko with Naryshkin)


          Touchy FSB? lol
          1. Sklendarka
            Sklendarka 7 July 2020 15: 22 New
            -3
            No, greedy ... Is this at their polkan’s lardes who took out lard in any way ???
            An urgent need to amend the multiplication table: 2 * 2 = 15 years with confiscation ...
      2. Charik
        Charik 7 July 2020 14: 15 New
        +2
        how to print newspapers, secular secrets or them (journalist) in secret factories with the issuance of classified data
    2. astepanov
      astepanov 7 July 2020 14: 33 New
      +2
      It's funny, but journalist Rogozin from a colleague hastened to disown himself urgently. But what about workshop solidarity?
      1. slipped
        slipped 7 July 2020 16: 43 New
        -3
        Quote: astepanov
        It's funny, but journalist Rogozin from a colleague hastened to disown himself urgently. But what about workshop solidarity?


        An emigrant? Do you still remember Tsekhovikov? lol
  7. Cowbra
    Cowbra 7 July 2020 12: 34 New
    10
    Graduated from the Higher School of Economics

    Yeltsin-center-on-Moscow, so no surprises
  8. codetalker
    codetalker 7 July 2020 12: 38 New
    +4
    So, will they come soon for Rogozin? I wish I could drop by the way ...
    1. Charik
      Charik 7 July 2020 14: 17 New
      0
      Yes, it's time for all journalists to transplant acre from the first and second and rustoods
  9. Arctic
    Arctic 7 July 2020 12: 41 New
    +2
    ...... And then the state security will remember your names.
  10. Poetry
    Poetry 7 July 2020 12: 44 New
    +9
    Again, HSE. Nursery diverse counter. Apparently, they are recruiting already in senior courses. It is a pity that the article is not firing.
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 7 July 2020 16: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: Poetiszaugla
      Apparently, they are recruiting already in senior courses.

      I won't say about recruiting, but what is being processed in the first courses is indisputable. Two good friends (we went together for three years to Olympiad lessons in history with a very good teacher) entered the HSE. So, two years later, one by the views of a person cannot be recognized AT ALL! The answer to everything is the same: "Abroad will help us, the main thing is to live peacefully with them." I simply did not begin to communicate with the second, having looked at the first. Arctic fox ...
      1. Poetry
        Poetry 7 July 2020 16: 45 New
        +1
        A bunch of liberals kept running, screaming:
        "And let us beat the swords into plowshares!"
        There they have a forge of cadres, professional traitors.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 July 2020 12: 53 New
    +6
    Not surprisingly, given where he studied (HSE) and later worked (Kommersant). It is noteworthy how and at the suggestion of whom did you end up as an advisor to Roscosmos? Well, this will be clarified during the investigation and I hope that "each sister has an earring" will get it.
    1. slipped
      slipped 7 July 2020 12: 55 New
      -3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It is noteworthy how and at the suggestion of whom did you end up as an advisor to Roscosmos?


      Most likely let down the guy relaxed. lol
    2. 4ekist
      4ekist 7 July 2020 15: 25 New
      +1
      And what is there to identify? And so everything is clear. I got into "advisers" thanks to my connections. Nepotism, connections, the purchase of positions in Moscow are flourishing as in the whole country. THIS IS CORRUPTION !!!!
    3. Junior Private
      Junior Private 7 July 2020 15: 59 New
      0
      As an option: the boy and his muddy social circle were watched for a long time, but there was nothing specifically to take by the tailbone, and the KGB does not deal with small things. This is followed by a typical provocation of the special services - through "good friends", it is proposed to buy (!) A post on the right hand from Rogozin. After agreement with the curators (the communication chain is monitored), the guy "gets" a position and worthless information, on the transfer of which he is accepted. Now, in the dungeons of the Lubyanka, there is one less free space, and the newly-made counselor is surrendering everyone and everything, because 20 years is shining. The people are indignant - "they've picked up everyone here without any checks in the space industry", and in the KGB they secretly smile. Profit.
      The FSB and SVR arsenal are rich in almost detective tweaks. The guys are working. I wish them good luck.
  12. Dikson
    Dikson 7 July 2020 12: 57 New
    11
    Higher School of Economics ..))) - it’s just a CIA branch .. these "schoolchildren" do nothing but wrecking for Russia ..
  13. K-50
    K-50 7 July 2020 12: 57 New
    +1
    Shoot, not feed twenty years !!! am
    When such people, receiving a very healthy salary, all kinds of "buns" and go to betrayal, then the "reward" should be only one bullet at the firing line !!!
  14. atakan
    atakan 7 July 2020 12: 59 New
    +4
    Many of us remember the good TV show, Sleepers. The situation is completely from there.
  15. Mikhail Shumakov
    Mikhail Shumakov 7 July 2020 12: 59 New
    +3
    How did he get to Roskosmos? There you need to look.
    1. AUL
      AUL 7 July 2020 13: 23 New
      +3
      Serious people put up a word. And the journalist will always agree with the journalist.
      Quote: Mikhail Shumakov
      How did he get to Roskosmos?
    2. syndicalist
      syndicalist 7 July 2020 14: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail Shumakov
      How did he get to Roskosmos? There you need to look.

      No, not there. Or do you think that he has grown "from below" to such a position? No? Then you need to start from the top.
    3. fider
      fider 8 July 2020 16: 49 New
      -2
      Mikhail Shumakov
      "How did he get to Roscosmos?"

      Just like Rogozin.
  16. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 7 July 2020 13: 02 New
    -2
    They survived ..... to be honest, I was expecting something similar in Rogozin's department ... maybe it's enough for him to turn around and it's time to change him and his "effective" team?
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 7 July 2020 14: 09 New
      +1
      Have you read the article? He was appointed there in May! The office will never knit reinforced concrete. As soon as daddy was equipped so that the fruit would not disappear, then screw
    2. 4ekist
      4ekist 7 July 2020 15: 28 New
      0
      Honestly, nothing surprised. It's time to change this gasket.
  17. Guards turn
    Guards turn 7 July 2020 13: 05 New
    12
    A day in our history

    On this day in 1907 the legendary Chekist Pavel Anatolyevich Sudoplatov was born.
  18. parusnik
    parusnik 7 July 2020 13: 06 New
    +4
    We survived ... a journalist in advisers to a journalist who runs the Roskosmos ... Yes, he is involved in treason, now it’s clear why Russian spacecraft do not fly into space like birds .. laughing It’s good that we do not have 1937 smile
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 7 July 2020 14: 07 New
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      We survived ... a journalist in advisers to a journalist who runs the Roskosmos ... Yes, he is involved in treason, now it’s clear why Russian spacecraft do not fly into space like birds ..

      What to do? This is our reality. Surkov wrote an article about this: "Putin's long state."
    2. Quadro
      Quadro 7 July 2020 15: 20 New
      -2
      That is, the Russian Federation for 10 years as the United States does not put ships into orbit?
  19. Klingon
    Klingon 7 July 2020 13: 16 New
    +1
    Quote: Dangerous
    Sold the drawings for the trampoline? That's right, things went uphill for Mask right away!

    not quite a trampoline and not a Mask, but NASA - here recently the striped new rocket dviglo was rolled out for display, dviglo instead of RD-180, here by the way the article was
    1. slipped
      slipped 7 July 2020 13: 34 New
      -3
      Quote: Klingon
      dviglo instead of RD-180


      There, in fact, the whole rocket is entirely in return. laughing
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 7 July 2020 14: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Klingon
      not quite a trampoline and not a Mask, but NASA - here recently the striped new rocket dviglo was rolled out for display, dviglo instead of RD-180, here by the way the article was

      All traitors are to blame.
      1. Klingon
        Klingon 7 July 2020 14: 15 New
        0
        exactly how you guessed it!
    3. snucerist
      snucerist 7 July 2020 14: 53 New
      0
      Um ...
      In fact, Blue Origin, where Bezos's BE-4 was manufactured, has roughly the same relationship to NASA as the SpaceX Mask. This is also a private company.
      1. Quadro
        Quadro 7 July 2020 15: 22 New
        -1
        Quote: snucerist
        Um ...
        In fact, Blue Origin, where Bezos's BE-4 was manufactured, has roughly the same relationship to NASA as the SpaceX Mask. This is also a private company.

        Oh well, let's go without these amerskiye tales. Allegedly, Musk's "private" office, which had technologies for a spacecraft and an engine, as well as a huge bunch of specialists, they typed at the labor exchange, yeah. I readily "believe".
        1. CT-55_11-9009
          CT-55_11-9009 7 July 2020 16: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: Quadro
          Quote: snucerist
          Um ...
          In fact, Blue Origin, where Bezos's BE-4 was manufactured, has roughly the same relationship to NASA as the SpaceX Mask. This is also a private company.

          Oh well, let's go without these amerskiye tales. Allegedly, Musk's "private" office, which had technologies for a spacecraft and an engine, as well as a huge bunch of specialists, they typed at the labor exchange, yeah. I readily "believe".

          Musk - yes, NASA is more than fully equipped. But Bezosovskaya office started small and how much already? and, yes, it’s been working for twenty years, the engine that they brought to mind, the fourth in the line (they started with a small start, a technology demonstrator, so to speak). Yes, and Bezos had heaps of money, financing itself pulled without any NASA. Of course, he lured frames from wherever possible, but not as brazenly as Musk.
          1. Quadro
            Quadro 7 July 2020 16: 13 New
            0
            Bezos is still at least some realistic option, I agree. But Mask, who jumped out like a devil from a snuff-box, and enhanced PR as a private trader, are already rotten stories. It was created for the image of the United States.
            1. CT-55_11-9009
              CT-55_11-9009 7 July 2020 16: 15 New
              +1
              Quote: Quadro
              But Mask, who jumped out like a devil from a snuff-box, and enhanced PR as a private trader, are already rotten stories. It was created for the image of the United States.

              Yes, sure! I think, also in order to dump all the devils on him in case of his possible failure: he is an ignoramus, and we, NASA, have nothing to do with it!
  20. Muxalet
    Muxalet 7 July 2020 13: 40 New
    +6
    Just the facts:
    -Dmitry Rogozin personally invited Ivan Safronov to work as his adviser;
    - when hiring Ivan Safronov for work at Roskosmos, the special services were checked - just for reliability and possible threats to national security; it is impossible to obtain the position of adviser to the head of Roscosmos without such verification;
    - Yesterday, Dmiry Rogozin was supposed to meet with President Vladimir Putin for a report on the state of affairs in Roscosmos;
    -the president canceled the meeting without explanation;
    -from this morning, Dmitry Rogozin is the direct and immediate chief of his subordinate, accused of treason and working for NATO special services.
    1. slipped
      slipped 7 July 2020 13: 54 New
      -4
      Quote: Muxalet
      Dmitry Rogozin personally invited Ivan Safronov to work as his adviser


      Just the facts:

      "It should be noted that Ivan is a fairly professional journalist. He is a very good, intelligent, competent specialist. He understands well what he is writing about, it was always interesting to read him." - the author of the website MilitaryRussia.ru Dmitry Kornev https://radiosputnik.ria.ru/20200707/1574003611.html

      Quote: Muxalet
      -the president canceled the meeting without explanation;


      "since we are not aware of the details of what happened, I cannot give you any more information" - Peskov, the president's press secretary. https://ria.ru/20200707/1574003439.html

      Are you trying to pull an owl on the globe? Oh well... laughing
    2. Olezhek
      Olezhek 7 July 2020 15: 23 New
      -1
      -from this morning, Dmitry Rogozin is the direct and immediate chief of his subordinate, accused of treason and working for NATO special services.


      You are evil, unkind ...
  21. Kapkan
    Kapkan 7 July 2020 13: 45 New
    -1
    I hate traitors. Traitors need to be shot.
  22. Million
    Million 7 July 2020 13: 46 New
    +5
    Why wonder? Capitalism. Whoever gave the most money is sold out. I think there are a lot of such people.
    For those who grew up in the USSR, even the nickname "traitor" was shameful, but for the current generation, whoever has money is a fine fellow ... The way of earning is not important
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 7 July 2020 15: 22 New
      -1
      Why wonder? Capitalism. Who gave more money, then sold out.


      I do not see the connection between conscience and capitalism
      1. Million
        Million 7 July 2020 15: 56 New
        +2
        It is not and cannot be. Money is everything
  23. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 7 July 2020 14: 05 New
    0
    Something with "enviable regularity" began to reveal treason, traitors, spies, paid talkers, agents ...! We knew that racial officials have such a "profession": to sell the homeland! But it turns out that not everything is sold?
  24. Charik
    Charik 7 July 2020 14: 06 New
    -1
    wad him with confiscation from his family — let him rejoice over his dad — although he’s probably already rushing abroad with all his legs and from there they will shout about bad Putin
  25. morpogr
    morpogr 7 July 2020 14: 07 New
    -1
    I looked at the resume, place of study, work, and the clinical condition of the patient becomes clear. Inclined to betrayal. hi
  26. Charik
    Charik 7 July 2020 14: 08 New
    +1
    again, the journalist was arrested-as recently as some expert self-taught-also military commissar
  27. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 7 July 2020 14: 12 New
    +2
    Dunno got squeezed ...
  28. K-612-O
    K-612-O 7 July 2020 14: 12 New
    0
    After reading the comments, I realized that more than half read only the headline. And they did not bother with the biography of this valuable fruit.
    1. cniza
      cniza 7 July 2020 16: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: K-612-O
      After reading the comments, I realized that more than half read only the headline. And they did not bother with the biography of this valuable fruit.


      This is exactly how the comments are based on the title. yes
  29. Rzzz
    Rzzz 7 July 2020 14: 16 New
    -2
    Was this adviser advised to build skyscrapers in Moscow instead of a cosmodrome in Siberia ??
  30. Hazarov
    Hazarov 7 July 2020 14: 20 New
    -1
    Oh how! Under Ragozin dig?
  31. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 7 July 2020 14: 37 New
    +1
    The following message appeared on the US Department of Justice website:

    Elisabeth Joe Shirley, a 47-year-old resident of Hedgesville, pleaded guilty to the illegal storage of secret intelligence from the US National Security Agency (NSA): she planned to transfer top-secret information to the Russian government.
    The defendant, who worked in the Pentagon’s naval intelligence department and was engaged in cyber investigations, first gained access to secret data in 1994, while serving in the air forces.
    After leaving active duty, Shirley served in the US Air Force reserves, and then in the US Navy reserves. While serving in the Air Force, she worked on assignments at the NSA. From May 2001 to August 2012, Shirley held various positions in the US Navy's Office of Naval Intelligence, the Department of Defense, the Department of Energy, and the Joint National Cyber ​​Investigation Task Force.

    The prosecution claims that in July 2019, Shirley, along with her six-year-old daughter, whose official guardian is the girl's father, left for Mexico. She planned to contact the Russian authorities and seek asylum "in a country from which she would not be extradited to the United States."

    Shirley took with her an important document, marked "top secret" and containing information concerning US national security, which she offered to the Russian government. In her message, she stressed that she considers it necessary to send from the United States items related to her work, "before they are taken away and destroyed."

    She faces up to 10 years in prison and a fine of up to $ 250 thousand on charges of keeping classified information.


    Information about this was published today, Tuesday, July 7, 2020. The Google translator gives a completely adequate translation.
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/west-virginia-woman-admits-willful-retention-top-secret-national-defense-information-and


    "Coincidence? I don't think so!" (C)
  32. g_ae
    g_ae 7 July 2020 14: 38 New
    +1
    And which of the homelands has changed? That would be to announce the entire list. In general, it would be more correct to say that he was not arrested for treason, but rather eliminated by business competitors. What secrets are there in this cosmos, gentleman ?! Everything is stolen before us.
    1. syndicalist
      syndicalist 7 July 2020 14: 53 New
      -2
      Quote: g_ae
      What secrets are there in this cosmos, gentleman ?!

      What's the secret of RD180?
      1. g_ae
        g_ae 7 July 2020 15: 12 New
        0
        Who needs this secret if it is cheaper and easier to buy (relatively inexpensive) a ready-made engine and not bother. While. All the same, they must be sold, and no one will buy, except for one buyer. It would take a secret if the "traitors" would fight for the right to sell. There can be no illusions here.
    2. Olezhek
      Olezhek 7 July 2020 15: 20 New
      -2
      And which of the homelands has changed? That would be to announce the entire list. In general, it would be more correct to say that he was not arrested for treason, but rather eliminated by business competitors. What secrets are there in this cosmos, gentleman ?! Everything is stolen before us.


      In Belarus - yes - everything has been sold there for a long time to "eastern and western partners"
      Lukashenko began his vigorous activity as a Resident of Belarus with the sale of the latest S-300 to Americans in the 95th
      So you do not occupy experience.
      1. g_ae
        g_ae 7 July 2020 15: 24 New
        +1
        Oh, the full-time cunning man showed up. You, my dear, are old than climbing onto a pedestal and waving white clothes and stretch your underwear. And somehow it is not convincingly obtained.
        1. Olezhek
          Olezhek 7 July 2020 15: 26 New
          -1
          Oh, the full-time cunning man showed up. You, my dear, are old than climbing onto a pedestal and waving white clothes
          а

          What do you say for the S-300?
          And what’s interesting: it was not two-faced Ukraine that sold it, nor Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, which were there ...
          no ... the best and the loudest ...
          1. g_ae
            g_ae 7 July 2020 15: 42 New
            0
            I won’t say anything. It’s violet to me. Well you set moral guidelines in the post-Soviet space. Here is another example in the article. So what are the claims? You remind me of the hero of the joke about the sparrow and the cow cake. The difference between us is only in the size of the cakes. Well, here your cake is bigger, slower to cool, it’s more comfortable for you there. But I see absolutely no reason for a proud and cheerful tweet. The substance is identical there and there.
            1. Olezhek
              Olezhek 7 July 2020 16: 24 New
              -2
              I won’t say anything. It’s violet to me.


              Then get off the pedestal yes
          2. Klingon
            Klingon 7 July 2020 17: 09 New
            0
            over time, you realize that Russia’s best ally is Mongolia
            1. g_ae
              g_ae 7 July 2020 18: 10 New
              0
              Nope. Martians.
    3. cniza
      cniza 7 July 2020 16: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: g_ae
      And which of the homelands has changed? That would be to announce the entire list. In general, it would be more correct to say that he was not arrested for treason, but rather eliminated by business competitors. What secrets are there in this cosmos, gentleman ?! Everything is stolen before us.


      Have you ever read the article?

      he worked for one of the NATO special services and passed on to her secret information about military-technical cooperation and the military-industrial complex of Russia.


      Allegedly, the detention is related to the activities that Safronov conducted as a journalist.
  33. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 7 July 2020 14: 56 New
    0
    According to intelligence, Ivan Safronov, two months ago, who took over as Rogozin’s adviser on information policy, worked for one of NATO’s intelligence agencies and passed on to her secret information about military-technical cooperation and the Russian defense industry.


    Roscosmos itself confirmed the arrest of Safronov, but stated that his arrest had nothing to do with his work at the state corporation. Presumably, the detention is related to the activities that Safronov conducted while still a journalist.

    Even oddly strange, no one finds?

    On March 18, 2019, the Kommersant newspaper published an article by Safronov and Alexandra Djordjevic about Russia's plans to deliver heavy multi-functional fighters of the 4 ++ Su-35 generation to Egypt. In June of the same year, an administrative case was opened against Kommersant for the disclosure of information representing state or other secret specially protected by law. An article about fighters for Egypt has been removed from the publication’s website.


    In May 2019, his material on the possible resignation of the head of the Federation Council, Valentina Matvienko, was published on the website of the publishing house. After that, pressure began on the authors of the article by the shareholder of Publishing House Alisher Usmanov, Safronov and his colleague Maxim Ivanov had to leave Kommersant. Together with Safronov, the Foreign Policy Department then left more than ten journalists


    Obviously, the matter is sewn, it’s just reprisal against a journalist.
    By the way, with a search, they came to Taisiya Bekbulatova. Also a journalist.
    They also want to put the journalist Svetlana Prokopieva, in the same way on a sewn case.

    Interestingly, no one even questions the reason for the detention. Once they wrote that a traitor, then a traitor, means a stake for a guy.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 July 2020 15: 40 New
      +2
      "It is interesting that no one even doubts the reason for the detention. Since they wrote that a traitor means a traitor, it means to count the guy" ////
      ----
      So in 37, no one questioned anything. It is written: "Enemy of the people" means an enemy of the people.
      The people are not used to straining their brains: since the authorities decided, it means sheer truth.
      One gyrus for all - collective laughing
      1. Olezhek
        Olezhek 7 July 2020 16: 27 New
        -1
        So in 37, no one questioned anything. It is written: "Enemy of the people" means an enemy of the people.
        People are not used to straining their brains:


        You know, on the 37th year
        Today the Free World reminds me more of the 37th
        If they said that Trump was elected by Russian hackers on Putin’s orders, then there’s nothing to argue
        nobody argues ...
        So it's funny about the "collective gyrus" ... but to the wrong address.
      2. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 7 July 2020 17: 48 New
        +2
        So in 37, no one questioned anything. It is written: "Enemy of the people" means an enemy of the people.
        The people are not used to straining their brains: since the authorities decided, it means sheer truth.
        One gyrus at all - collective laughing


        Probably until they come to their souls and understand.
      3. Finches
        Finches 7 July 2020 18: 11 New
        0
        If Chekhov’s shotgun hanging on the wall at the beginning of the play always shoots at the end, then the God-chosen lawyer of the devil always appears on VO .... laughing
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 7 July 2020 18: 20 New
          +1
          The God's chosen lawyer is just trying to prove that his client is not the devil, but a setup. The journalist, who has been working at Roscosmos for only two months, was unlikely to find out the secrets. But he managed to substitute his boss, Mr. Rogozin, who brought him closer to himself. smile
          1. K-612-O
            K-612-O 7 July 2020 19: 15 New
            +2
            Claims put forward to him for his previous work at the Roskosmos.
            Warrior, you have recently become very blinkered and perceive everything stereotyped.
          2. Finches
            Finches 7 July 2020 19: 24 New
            0
            This will establish the investigation, and the court will plead guilty. But, as we say in Russia and in Israel, there is no smoke without fire ... hi
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 7 July 2020 23: 58 New
              +2
              Scary spy!
              Passed to the intelligence services of the CZECH REP.
              about the upcoming sale of fighter Su-35 EGIPTU. belay
              Journalists learn about such deals easily, openly.
              full of information. Egypt already buys Russian aircraft.
              And to your health! They will soon fight with Ethiopia.
              1. Finches
                Finches 8 July 2020 05: 50 New
                0
                The law is strong, but it's law! Everyone starts with little things that supposedly can be found on the Internet ...
      4. K-612-O
        K-612-O 7 July 2020 19: 14 New
        +1
        Well, let me remind you that the great Richard Sorge was also a journalist, and when he was knitted no one yelled about arbitrariness and repression
  34. +5
    +5 7 July 2020 14: 58 New
    0
    The last paragraph fully reveals it ... it is strange that such would not be a spy ...
  35. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 7 July 2020 15: 05 New
    0
    He will sit. Wiser. It will now be in the camp newspaper ,, Sidelets, ”write articles, for a chip.
  36. askort154
    askort154 7 July 2020 15: 06 New
    -1
    In Moscow, on suspicion of treason, an adviser to the head of Roscosmos was detained

    The head of Roscosmos is a journalist.
    Advisor to the head of Roskosmos is a journalist.
    What kind of "breakthroughs" in the Cosmos can be expected in this corporation, which manages not specialists, but professional "balabols" ?! Thank God that Korolev and Chelomey do not see this.
  37. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 7 July 2020 15: 29 New
    0
    In Moscow! And why not Yekaterinburg or Sakhalin?
  38. cniza
    cniza 7 July 2020 15: 57 New
    +2
    Graduated from the Higher School of Economics (HSE) with a degree in Journalism.


    This HSE is a suspicious institution ...
    1. Fan
      Fan 7 July 2020 17: 38 New
      0
      Quote: cniza
      Graduated from the Higher School of Economics (HSE) with a degree in Journalism.


      This HSE is a suspicious institution ...

      Yes, for a long time already, agents of influence for the collapse and robbery of Russia are clearly spreading there ..
      How many scandals have been associated with this "Soros school" ...
      After all, I passed a lot of secrets to see .. That’s why we are marking time in space exploration ..
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  40. Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 7 July 2020 16: 16 New
    -2
    And what will comrade Rogozin tell us? Trampoline whose invention is the result?
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 7 July 2020 16: 28 New
      0
      Trampoline whose invention is the result?


      I am ashamed dear comrade not to know the basics: Russia is the birthplace of trampolines !!! am
      1. Dr. Sorge
        Dr. Sorge 7 July 2020 16: 29 New
        0
        So maybe the spies and offered Rogozin this secret project.
    2. slipped
      slipped 7 July 2020 16: 36 New
      0
      Quote: Dr. Sorge
      And what will comrade Rogozin tell us? Trampoline whose invention is the result?


      Head of the press service of "Roscosmos" Vladimir Ustimenko: "We are working as usual. Rogozin at the workplace" https://ria.ru/20200707/1574013499.html
      1. Dr. Sorge
        Dr. Sorge 7 July 2020 17: 37 New
        0
        That is, a personal trampoline was not stolen :)
        1. slipped
          slipped 7 July 2020 20: 19 New
          0
          Quote: Dr. Sorge
          That is, a personal trampoline was not stolen :)


          don’t worry about the trampoline, the American Mars rover will fly off it soon laughing
  41. Woland
    Woland 7 July 2020 16: 18 New
    +2
    HSE "is a hotbed of liberals and traitors
  42. Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 July 2020 16: 21 New
    +1
    If the truth is proved, then these should be against the wall, and not horseradish budgetary money spent on it for 20 years.
    1. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 7 July 2020 16: 26 New
      0
      Then him to Belarus. Not there, he stole secrets :)
  43. Shahno
    Shahno 7 July 2020 16: 59 New
    +1
    Well, advisers are to blame. So forever ...
    1. Dr. Sorge
      Dr. Sorge 7 July 2020 17: 37 New
      0
      Yes, who would doubt it.
  44. pexotinec
    pexotinec 7 July 2020 18: 10 New
    0
    Perhaps it is time for Mr. Rogozin to retire for the selection of such personnel and the collapse of the Russian cosmonautics. Roscosmos alone has scandals, but about achievements only balobolstvo is one. It is clear that someone thrust this pepper there by pull.
    1. slipped
      slipped 7 July 2020 20: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: pexotinec
      the collapse of the Russian cosmonautics.


      The collapse is only in your head or on your couch, and in our country, in reality, they continue the countdown on Baikonur:



      And the verification of the solar panels of the Progress MS-15 TGK was completed



      Run in two weeks with a ponytail.

      Preparations for the launch this month of two Russian satellites Express, 80 and 103, are also continuing. The satellites are being charged with their batteries and prepared to dock with the rocket.
  45. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 7 July 2020 20: 22 New
    -4
    Quote: Galleon
    Quote: Tank jacket
    Roscosmos itself confirmed the arrest of Safronov, but stated that his arrest had nothing to do with his work at the state corporation.

    Did they read his materials, which he sent to curators? The main thing is to blur with a smart look.

    There already all the liberals harnessed for him ...
    Earlier, the journalist of the Russian service of the BBC Olesya Gerasimenko said on Twitter, it is planned that the action in Lubyanka will go on all day.

    According to Novaya Gazeta, shortly after the start of the action, the first participant, special correspondent of Kommersant, Yelena Chernenko, was detained, explaining that she had violated the regime of self-isolation.

    Later, Olga Churakova, a journalist for the Project, and Kommersant correspondents, Kira Dyuryagina and Alexander Chernykh, were detained. In addition, Anna Zibrova, a former Kommersant and Novaya Gazeta journalist, Galina Sakharevich, a correspondent for Batenka, yes you are a transformer, Alina Didkovskaya, a former Vedomosti journalist, Maya Sedova, a military analyst, and Daria Burlakova from Transparency International were detained.

    Also detained was Ivan Safronov's classmate and former Novaya Gazeta journalist Nikita Girin. In total, more than ten picket participants were detained.

    The last to be detained are Anastasia Platonova, who works with Takie Dela, and activist Aleksey Andreev.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 8 July 2020 19: 41 New
      -3
      There already all the liberals harnessed for him ...


      And you, like, the salt of the Russian land?
      Nimbus not pushing? fellow
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 9 July 2020 02: 57 New
        -2
        Police detained journalist Ksenia Sobchak at the Lubyanka in Moscow, where they hold pickets in support of adviser to the head of Roskosmos, Ivan Safronov, suspected of treason, reports RBC.

        In total, nearly 20 journalists were detained during the pickets, including Elena Chernenko and Alexander Chernykh from Kommersant, Yuri Litvinenko from Vedomosti, Project journalist Olga Churakova, and Baza founder Nikita Mogutin.

        Sobchak came in a T-shirt with the inscription "Freedom to Ivan Safronov." wassat IIIii-haaaa ...
  46. Siberian54
    Siberian54 9 July 2020 08: 53 New
    0
    The defender said the client is accused of working for the Czechs .. Then he has blah, blah, blah of innocence, lack of evidence and in general the magazine is white and transparent like a heavenly angel ...