Russia is preparing the T-14 Armata tank for export shipments

The new Russian tank T-14 Armata is planned to be exported; the export appearance of the vehicle is currently being determined. This was announced in an interview with the Serbian publication "Voice of Evidence" by the director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS) Dmitry Shugaev.

Answering a journalist’s question, Shugaev explained that Russia plans to export the latest Russian T-14 Armata tank, as well as other modern equipment, including anti-aircraft missile systems, planes and helicopters. However, he did not explain when Russia would be ready to supply Armata to foreign customers, and also did not name potential buyers tank.

Russian manufacturers are ready to offer potential buyers air defense systems, such as the S-300 and S-400, and modern aircraft and helicopters. We are preparing for sales a light MiG-35 fighter, we are promoting the most modern T-14 Armata tank. In short, we have something to offer

- leads the publication of the words of the head of the FSVTS.

In April of this year, the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, Denis Manturov, in an interview with Russia 1, said that the Armata T-14 tank would be exported and its export profile was being determined. However, the tank’s deliveries to potential buyers will begin only after all obligations regarding the delivery of Almaty to the Russian army have been fulfilled.

In June, Interfax, citing its own source, said that Armata had already received an export passport.

Recall that the Ministry of Defense until the end of 2021 should receive 132 T-14 tanks and BMP T-15 on the Armata platform.

Comments

[Nevsky_ZU]

I do not understand, but what about Russia? Endless modernization of the T-72BM- ...?
Eh ...

[The popuas]

132 tanks of Armat and BMP t-15 were written on the Armat platform, but it was not indicated how many tanks and how many BMP

[Doccor18]

At such rates, the rearmament of the ground forces of about 25 years is necessary ...

[mitroha]

Perhaps, after the start of production and sale for export, due to this, production for the needs of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will increase by a multiple. Since the means and cost reduction of production

[Doccor18]

Perhaps, after the start of production and sale for export, due to this, production will increase multiply ...

I'd like to believe in it ...
That's just the T-90 did not work out that way. Export contracts were closed, and the T-90 never became the MBT of the Russian army. Until now, the T-72 is being upgraded ... I VERY want to believe that it will be different with the T-14.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Doccor18

Export contracts were closed, and the T-90 did not become MBT of the Russian army

In early April 2019, the Indian Government’s Security Committee, chaired by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, approved the purchase of 464 Russian T-90MS tanks for the Indian army in the amount of 134,48 billion rupees ($ 1,93 billion). The signing of the corresponding agreement with Rosoboronexport JSC became known in November 2019.
A contract with Vietnam for 64 units, with Iraq, signed in 2017.
Contract with Egypt for 500 tanks.
The $ 2,5 billion contract with Egypt will not solve all the problems of the Russian military-industrial complex, but for Uralvagonzavod, which produces military vehicles, this is a very important event. The boom is hoping that at the last stage of signing the contract will not break.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: Doccor18

That's just the T-90 did not work out that way.

The Indian contract at least allowed UVZ to survive in the "holy 90s" - not to go under the hammer and not to saw equipment for scrap. So at least this export of the T-90 has paid for itself inside and out.

[Simargl]

Quote: Doccor18

That's just the T-90 did not work out that way. Export contracts were closed, and the T-90 never became the MBT of the Russian army.

Was it necessary?
Firstly, it is a heavily modernized, but T-72.
Secondly, the idea of ​​the most robotic tank is unlikely to have recently appeared. And recent information about tests without a crew can be considered confirmation.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Simargl

And recent information about tests without a crew can be considered confirmation.

Robots could do with the T-72. Why would an expensive tank be allowed under this business? Moreover, the one where the crew is better protected.

[Simargl]

Quote: Bad_gr

Robots could do with the T-72.

I didn’t write like that. I wrote about maximum robotization.

Quote: Bad_gr

Why would an expensive tank be allowed under this business?

Let's take a seat on the T-18. The cheapest option. Or should tank building go forward? Like the layout - meet crew requirements ...

Quote: Bad_gr

Moreover, the one where the crew is better protected.

And electronics - it’s not meat, can you not protect?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Doccor18

At such rates, the rearmament of the ground forces of about 25 years is necessary ...

It's not about the pace.
As soon as the "Armata" go to the line divisions, the demand for modifications of the T-90 will drop significantly.
Apparently, they decided to prepare for this.

[venik]

Quote: Doccor18

At such rates, the rearmament of the ground forces of about 25 years is necessary ...

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Of course, I would very much like to see "Armata" in the troops and in large numbers ... But alas - you have to be realist: "Armata" is not just a VERY GOOD tank, at least a third superior to its closest competitors, but also INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE for our Army - the first copies (which are now in experimental military operation) cost almost half a billion ruble a piece! Let's face it "at the level" of the most expensive foreign armored vehicles! Which, by the way, is also produced not in thousands of pieces, but where more modest volumes! True, Uralvagon promised to reduce the cost of production cars by more than one and a half times, but perhaps it is not very successful yet ...
For comparison:

So a "vicious circle" comes out - in order to significantly reduce the cost - you need to order large batch..... And for a large batch - there is not enough money !!!
That may be why they thought about export deliveries? This is really just a private assumption.

[Region68]

"Armata" is not just a VERY GOOD tank, at least one third superior to its closest competitors, .....
This is what such conclusions follow from.

[venik]

Quote: Region68

"Armata" is not just a VERY GOOD tank, at least one third superior to its closest competitors, .....
This is what such conclusions follow from.

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Viktor Baranets "The new Russian tank is one third stronger than foreign ones" (KP # 48 2015)
"For what I bought - for what I sell"

[Region68]

No need to buy the first thing that caught my eye))
Especially when Komsomolskaya Pravda seller))

[venik]

Quote: Region68

No need to buy the first thing that caught my eye))
Especially when Komsomolskaya Pravda seller))

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And here "KP"! I specifically named the author of the article - Viktor Baranets - and this is a well-known person. And "KP" or not "KP" - what a difference - many publications publish it! The same applies to Alexei Khazbiev.
In the end, well, it’s not up to you to orient me!

[Uncle lee]

export the newest Russian T-14 Armata tank,

The vulture is watching us from heaven
To again find the prey here.
And he will be his prey,
In whose heart a yellow demon dances.
Again, again, gold beckons us!
Again, again, gold, as always, will deceive us!
Again, again, gold beckons us!
Again, again, gold, as always, will deceive us.

Movie "McKenna's Gold"

[doubovitski]

Quote: Uncle Lee

export the newest Russian T-14 Armata tank,

The vulture is watching us from heaven
To again find the prey here.
And he will be his prey,
In whose heart a yellow demon dances.
Again, again, gold beckons us!
Again, again, gold, as always, will deceive us!
Again, again, gold beckons us!
Again, again, gold, as always, will deceive us.

Movie "McKenna's Gold"

So what? Not a bad film, the amazing voice of Valery Obodzinsky ... But how does this all relate to the topic? A tank made for its Armed Forces will NEVER return the money spent on its production and maintenance. The same product sold for export returns, and a hundredfold, which allows you to make for yourself a little more than one to one. Only it is necessary to sell to those who will not fight with us, and will not transfer it to a third party. Well, at least for 50 years. Pindos sy do it. They are idiots?

[Uncle lee]

I will continue with the words of L. Derbeneva, from the same song:
The yellow idol will order us -
And rush towards crazy days.
And it seems to the vulture that rats
They run somewhere on the stones.

[Uncle lee]

Yeah ... They didn’t turn on! Where the golden calf rules, there is no concept of Homeland, Dignity, Honor, but only profit and betrayal! Roscosmos as an example!
PS I put words from this song as a specialist in order to pay attention to the power of gold over people .... And to me about Obodzinsky .... I already know about him. All this is sad and gloomy!
It's not even the T-14, but the issue of selling everything and everything .....

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

I do not understand, but what about Russia? Endless modernization of the T-72BM- ...?
Eh ...

Especially for you, my dear, as well as your colleagues on diagonal reading.

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

However, the supply of the tank to potential buyers will begin only after all obligations for the supply of "Armata" to the Russian army are fulfilled.

[Ingvar 72]

Paper, as you know, can endure everything, and you can say any promise. Against the backdrop of the repeatedly delayed adoption dates, it is difficult to believe in these promises. How do you not read them.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Ingvar 72

The paper is known to be able to

And the comments are even more.
Why try to understand the essence of the issue? Who cares what structural, technical problems were identified during trial operation? What changes will this require in production? How much time and resources will it take?
Of course, it’s much more fun to jerk off and jerk off with a feeling of deep satisfaction.

[Ingvar 72]

Yes, yes, it is your arguments that can justify any delay. As usual, you don’t have tea leaves, then Tamarka.
And time is running out.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Yes, yes, it is your arguments that can justify any delay.

I am not making excuses for anyone or anything. I have no information to speak out for or against.
And do you have?

[Ingvar 72]

I have real examples when the latest weapons are sold abroad, providing their army according to the residual principle. And there is no need for excuses that this is ensured by the work of the military-industrial complex - it is ensured by army orders no worse. And there is money for this.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

We, like, discussed delaying deadlines, not

I have real examples when the latest weapons are sold abroad, providing their army according to the residual principle.

As for your thesis. I cannot discuss an event that has not yet occurred.
From the standpoint of logic, if a coin has landed "tails" fifty times in a row, there is no reason to believe that it will go "tails" for the fifty-first time.
If this happens, and "Armata" goes abroad to the detriment of our army, I gratefully acknowledge that you are right. But until that happens, is there any point in saying anything on this topic?
I hope you got what I meant.
Sincerely.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

We kind of discussed delaying deadlines

Why then discuss export conditions?

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

there is no reason to believe that she will hit tails for the fifty-first time.

More likely to eat

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Probability has no shares. Probability Theory is a branch of mathematics that has a very indirect relation to everyday reality. Winning poker or roulette, it certainly will not help you.
In this case, nonlinear dynamics would be more appropriate.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Probability has no shares.

Definition - probability is the share of favorable outcomes in their total number.
He once taught a dreary subject. It won’t help to win at roulette, but it will be possible to determine the degree of regularity.
Conclusions - a favorable outcome for the supply of tanks to the troops is not worth the wait. Despite all the assurances of senior officials.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Definition - probability is the share of favorable outcomes in their total number.

According to your definition, probability is a fraction of a favorable outcome, and not vice versa.
Accordingly, probability has no shares.

[Ingvar 72]

The main point is to understand, and not to find fault with phraseology.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Phraseology is linguistics. And I had in mind - and you too - the wording.
"Who thinks clearly, he clearly states." Schopenhauer.

[Ingvar 72]

Read the meaning of the word phraseology. And let’s end with this, otherwise we will have wandered into the wrong steppe.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Phraseology (expression and Greek. Λογοςconception, doctrine) is a section of linguistics that studies stable speech turns and expressions - phraseological units. The totality of phraseological units of a language is also called its phraseology.
Data from Wikipedia.
For my part, I can advise you "The Art of Thinking" by Bertrand Russell.

[Ingvar 72]

Under phraseologisms we mean stable phrases of the following types: idioms (beat bacilli, drink bitter, drive by the nose, sparrow, until you drop, in full); collocations (heavy rain, make a decision, a grain of truth, raise a question); proverbs (go slower - you will continue, do not sit in your sled); sayings (here you are, grandmother, and St. George's Day; the ice has broken!); grammatical phraseological units (almost; almost; anyway); Phrase diagrams (Horseradish and Horseradish in Africa; Horseradish; Horseradish; Horseradish as Horseradish).
Expression probability share from the same opera ( ), so Bertrand Russell is still worth reading to you.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Ingvar 72

so Bertrand Russell is still worth reading to you.

With delight!
Thank you.

[mdsr]

Quote: Ingvar 72

As usual, you don’t have tea leaves, then Tamarka.

As usual, the Communists are to blame for them, or the unexpected sanctions from (just think about) potential opponents. Who would have thought that they could impose sanctions, right? We know everything that prevents a bad dancer. And this is not a sanction at all.

[Vadim237]

No, it’s just the sanctions and blasphemy of the Communists who still breed corruption throughout the country and in all areas sitting on the ground.

[doubovitski]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Quote: Ingvar 72

The paper is known to be able to

And the comments are even more.
Why try to understand the essence of the issue? Who cares what structural, technical problems were identified during trial operation? What changes will this require in production? How much time and resources will it take?
Of course, it’s much more fun to jerk off and jerk off with a feeling of deep satisfaction.

Reading this comrade, you come to the conclusion that he is not a specialist in any field, well, except, perhaps, in the field of political and informational pornography.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: doubovitski

that he is not a specialist in any field

I, unlike you, am a specialist in common sense. In addition, I do not poke, and opponents from scratch do not call blockheads.

[Alex777]

Selling abroad will help supply for yourself.
But while we don’t buy ourselves, we won’t sell them abroad.
They buy only what is already in service.

[Ingvar 72]

And you can first fully staff your army, and then recapture the costs.

[Alex777]

Can. But the money is ahead.

[Ingvar 72]

I agree, and better not palm oil!

[Alex777]

Palm oil - in the furnace.

[Alex777]

I briefly said about money.
Just besides tanks, we still need a lot of things both in the army and the navy.
Therefore, no money will be superfluous.

[Ingvar 72]

Yes, everything is clear. It's just that our export system is not properly built, and since the time of the Union. The best for export, self by the residual principle. The Gaidar-Yeltsin managers and their Putin followers have brought the system to the point of absurdity, when absolutely all of the country's resources are primarily exported. Uncle's wife ......
No one says that arms trade is not needed, but we must first equip our army, and only then think about export, and how to recapture the costs. And ONLY at the very end about income.
But our question is dominated by profit, not the question of the interests of the state.
P. S. It is possible to trade now, but only on an advance payment, and with a mandatory increase in production capacities, in accordance with the needs of the order.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

I do not understand, but what about Russia? Endless modernization of the T-72BM- ...?
Eh ...

Now there is a struggle for a huge order, namely 1770 T-14 for India. Hindus want to replace the obsolete T-72 with Armata. What does this give us? Remind you the story of how we got the T-90 in the army? So this order will allow you to optimize the price of this device for your army. To date, the price of T-14 for bulk purchases in our aircraft is too high.

[Morglenn]

Well, do you think this situation is normal? What kind of army is it that gets new weapons only if it deigns to buy them over the hill? And if the Indians don’t buy it, then the army will not see new tanks? And this is an army that claims to not only regional, but also global leadership ?! With this approach you will not go far.

[Eragon]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

I do not understand, but what about Russia? Endless modernization of the T-72BM- ...?
Eh ...

And it won't. Neither the T-14 nor the SU-57. Until the T-14 becomes "unmanned", and the SU will not acquire worthy drones and ACS to control them. Otherwise, this is not a new generation, but another modernization of the old one.

[rocket757]

To have a combat vehicle with a good potential for future modernization is very useful for any army.
I would like to understand / know that we have just such a technique in the army.

[Simon schempp]

Recall that the Ministry of Defense until the end of 2021 should receive 132 T-14 tanks and BMP T-15 on the Armata platform.

Just a laugh. Of course, not 2500 valves until 2020, but also not bad.

tank T-14 "Armata" is planned to be exported

If not for Chinese and non-Indians, then 100% on credit. And given how Russian authorities like to write off debts, the prospect is so-so.

[doubovitski]

Quote: Simon Schempp

Recall that the Ministry of Defense until the end of 2021 should receive 132 T-14 tanks and BMP T-15 on the Armata platform.

Just a laugh. Of course, not 2500 valves until 2020, but also not bad.

tank T-14 "Armata" is planned to be exported

If not for Chinese and non-Indians, then 100% on credit. And given how Russian authorities like to write off debts, the prospect is so-so.

Credit, or cash, depends on who and how urgent and important. If we need to sell, one thing. If they need to buy, the exact opposite is the case.

[5-9]

Laughter for no reason sign ....
Taking into account that in France there are 216 tanks in total, but in Germany - 225, in the UK - 165, and in the USA approx. 1400 (and will only decrease), 132 pieces only for the first batch is not enough.
Open your eyes - in the yard 2020 ... and not 1991.

[pavelty]

And he, that in the series and adopted and in list number 1?))

[doubovitski]

Quote: pavlentiy

And he, that in the series and adopted and in list number 1?))

Just for reference: Our factory manufactured 73 products in the Soviet era. Serially. Equipment for such production is more than 12 thousand units. Stamps, molds, conductors for machining, for welding, for assembly .... Moreover, the products by their weight and complexity cannot be compared to a tank. This is a mine explosion-proof electrical equipment. The number of reinstallations of equipment for production is approximately 10 times a year (monthly production of car kits) - more than 120 thousand. What do you think, the manufacture (on the knee) of 12 pieces of tanks, for all kinds of tests, break-in and other things, how much does it cost? And how much do you need to produce specialized equipment, the very one that I listed, to conduct experiments with metals, and so on? How many workshops, new, need to be built in Russia, in dozens of factories connected by cooperation? Will be. All will be. And, the fact that there is no that storming during the Second World War, says that the situation allows.

[Graz]

bad people, what else can I say. I would have banned the t-90 breakthrough for export, and they gathered armature, which in the army is mute

[Sergei 777]

Laughter and more. India T 90 so twice as much as ours. Shame. Now also Armata?

[Whirlwind]

Those T-90s that are exported and those that we have are not the same thing.
The same will be with Armata if they sell ...

[Lesorub]

Quote: Sergey 777

Laughter and more. India T 90 so twice as much as ours. Shame. Now also Armata?

But we have T 72B3 in different variations, - (sounds like sarcasm - but it is not), there are T 90 (of different years of release) - a limited number, on the approach of T 90M - in fact, modern tanks are not enough !! ! Deliveries of T 14 could equalize the situation at a technological and quality level - but the need for this tank in the troops is at least 1000!

[steelmaker]

Unfortunately, the economic policy of the state is this. Until they sell to others, we can’t build anything at home. No money, but you hold on! Everything that is sold must be sold !! Here is the slogan of government.

[Per se.]

Answering a journalist's question, Shugaev explained that Russia plans to export the latest Russian T-14 Armata tank, as well as other modern equipment, including anti-aircraft missile systems, airplanes and helicopters.

Only not Russia, but buy and sell, that they will sell their own mother too. The progenitor of the T-14, "Object 195", was one of the most secret developments, and these gentlemen, I would not be surprised if the S-500 will be sold tomorrow. For your army, you can already expect "S-600" and "superarmata". So, temporary workers, sell raw materials and Soviet military developments, the bad guys do not succeed in anything new, after all, one must have an excellent education in the country, a powerful scientific and industrial base, and not produce shopping centers.
Of course, PR guys, cheers for patriots and those who want "what is best" will quickly prove that this is normal, "as intended", and, most importantly, everything is much better than it was with Boris Nikolaevich, progress is evident.

[ZVS]

Su-57 for export, "Armata" for export and our army will fight on tanks of the 80s and Su-27s?
Soon, apparently, "Sarmat" will also be prepared for export.

[Whirlwind]

Half a liter of valerian will save you ...

[Region68]

2300 Armats will be exported?

[Alien From]

There will be export, we will have it! Dear pleasure this tank.

[Vadim237]

Not only is it expensive, it’s technological sophistication is radically different from all previous models - you will need new equipment to service it: equipment, tools, respectively, crew and advanced personnel.

[Alexey from Perm]

A statement demonstrating the essence of the capitalists, making money is the main thing, but the homeland will wait)))

[Vadim237]

Nobody is at war with us, and even in the distant future it will not be at war - so let them wait, and its producing enterprises will master mass production and earn money for further modernization and development.

[Alexey from Perm]

Yes, but what are we doing in Syria? And in Libya, our PMCs are doing, and in the Donbas?

[Vadim237]

These are local military conflicts - on foreign territory, what is now above the roof is enough to solve these conflicts.

[Vasyan1971]

However, tank deliveries to potential buyers will begin only after they are completed all obligations for the supply of "Armata" to the Russian army.

Competitive adversaries can relax.

[tralflot1832]

If Uralmash is loaded as in the USSR, then the Americans will also "ride" the Armata.