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Where the Type 003 Chinese aircraft carrier under construction “disappeared” from the shipyard: hypotheses are put forward in the USA

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Where the Type 003 Chinese aircraft carrier under construction “disappeared” from the shipyard: hypotheses are put forward in the USA

In American sources, materials appeared that presented data (including satellite images) about the “disappearance” of the Chinese aircraft carrier Type 003 under construction from the shipyard. This aircraft carrier was laid down at the Jiannan shipyard in Shanghai.


In the United States, they began to hypothesize where the Chinese aircraft carrier “disappeared”.

Recall that Type 003 is the 3rd aircraft carrier being built in China. The first of the built has already been put into service with the PLA Navy under the name "Shandong."

Among the American versions about the fate of Type 003, one appeared:

China could refuse to build a new aircraft carrier or postpone work in connection with the problems that China has with the creation of the J-31 carrier-based fighter. This China fighter belongs to the fifth (in the Chinese version - to the 4th) generation of fighters.

However, the Chinese media reported that the Type 003 aircraft carrier under construction did not disappear. It is transferred to a closed dry dock, where one of the phases of its construction will be carried out, including the installation of certain equipment. It was for the reason that the ship under construction was in a closed dock that it "disappeared" from the field of view of American spy satellites.

China intends to build a total of six aircraft carriers in the coming years. Moreover, the first series of aircraft-carrying ships according to the project has a deck with a springboard, and the second is flat. Type 003 aircraft carrier in China is planning to put into service by the end of 2021. The declared displacement of this ship is about 80 thousand tons. At the same time, its power installation in the project is designated as non-nuclear.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 7 July 2020 08: 23 New
    26
    And they have such a huge dock, and an aircraft carrier ... Okay. I’ll go to Doshirak and think about how to answer China!
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 7 July 2020 08: 29 New
      +6
      Already answered.
      In my city, the posters "New Constitution - Affordable Health Care" are still hanging.
      Everything will be fine now.
      1. mole
        mole 7 July 2020 08: 55 New
        19
        Quote: Pereira
        Already answered.
        In my city, the posters "New Constitution - Affordable Health Care" are still hanging.
        Everything will be fine now.

        I liked the poster posted by officials "Let officials be banned from dual citizenship!" Still hanging. wink
        1. Usher
          Usher 7 July 2020 14: 04 New
          +2
          Well, fine
        2. surfdude
          surfdude 7 July 2020 18: 31 New
          0
          I hope in OVIR? :)
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 July 2020 09: 32 New
      +6
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      I’ll go to Doshirak and think about how to answer China!

      China can not answer, but the Americans need advice, about one place to kick their scouts. How did the Chinese manage to drag such a healthy “bandura” into a closed dock, and this is not an hour of work, and the American satellites did not notice this, and the Shtangovs probably also eat bread for nothing in Shanghai. It's time for Trump to deal with such an outrage.
    3. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 7 July 2020 09: 42 New
      +2
      News at the level of inf. noise. Withdraw such a ship from the slipway and enter the dock, how much time? There spy satellites fly 10 times. An object of paramount importance for US control. request
      1. alone
        alone 7 July 2020 11: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Withdraw such a ship from the slipway and enter the dock, how much time? There spy satellites fly 10 times. An object of paramount importance for US control.

        Hmm ... a muddy story.
      2. bayard
        bayard 7 July 2020 19: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        There spy satellites fly 10 times. An object of paramount importance for US control.

        Take advantage of dense clouds yes bully .
        Or they were so carried away by the Negro pogroms that they were no longer up to the Chinese aircraft carriers. lol
        It seems soon theirs America ... kirdyk.
    4. hrych
      hrych 7 July 2020 20: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      how to answer China!
      Poseidon
  2. Civil
    Civil 7 July 2020 08: 31 New
    15
    It is transferred to a closed dry dock, where one of the phases of its construction will be carried out, including the installation of certain equipment.

    1. Aircraft carrier.
    2. In the closed.
    3. Dry dock.

    Communists can do anything.
    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 7 July 2020 08: 45 New
      +4
      Quote: Civil
      Communists can do anything.

      Second place in the number of dollar billionaires in the world after the United States. One of the strongest stratifications in the world
      by income (which is only growing from year to year - the gap between rich and poor in China is growing). So would you like to see communism?
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 7 July 2020 08: 55 New
        11
        Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
        So would you like to see communism?

        Let's go in sequence. For starters, we would like to see socialism really developed, which is characterized, first of all, by powerful, advanced, modern production. Producing the best products in the world in any required quantities. AND?
        Or is it better than miserable commodity capitalism, with a huge stratification of society, proportionally the first in the world number of billionaires, with "industrial successes", partially painted on paper, partially ensured by the placement on the territory of foreign plants in which local pithecanthropists understand nothing and do not try even, but just with a sin served in half?
        Yearning...
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 7 July 2020 09: 27 New
          +5
          Quote: Mikhail3
          socialism, which is characterized, first of all, by powerful, advanced, modern production. Producing the best products in the world in any required quantities.

          In the USA, it turns out, socialism? But the boys did not know!
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 7 July 2020 12: 04 New
            +3
            The USA shamefully merges its production to China, being out of favor with it) No, in the USA it is not socialism. The presence of advanced production is the most important sign of socialism; without it, socialism is impossible. It's just that this sign is not the only one. And your comment is as logical as the statement that a person is a spider, on the basis that the spider also has legs. Yes, there are legs. Not like that, really ...
            1. Sergey39
              Sergey39 7 July 2020 15: 40 New
              0
              Michael, but the fact that in China all production was built by the West does not bother you? In Russia, the factories (in your words) are being built by the West and is it bad?
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 7 July 2020 16: 12 New
                +2
                Doesn’t bother at all. All production in the USSR was built by the West. And then the USSR acted as China is doing now - it trained a lot of engineers who first mastered Western production, and then began to build their own.
                Unlike modern Russia. We prepared a mass of economists and managers to replenish the ranks of thieves, and began to plunder the Soviet legacy. We no longer train engineers. Absolutely. Those diplomas that are now issued are just paper. The opportunity to buy a test or an exam completely and completely destroys the very possibility of obtaining a higher education, even if you do not use it.
                Those factories that stand on our land are not ours. There is no one to master them, and such a task is not set. We are simply a lower-level servant on a stranger.
                1. Sergey39
                  Sergey39 7 July 2020 16: 44 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  We are simply a lower-level servant on a stranger.

                  I understood your position. "Everything is lost" and "we will all die."
                  1. Mikhail3
                    Mikhail3 8 July 2020 08: 53 New
                    +2
                    I am very sorry, but my position is based on extensive practical experience, both in communicating with the "engineers" of the modern issue and in observing the various modern "our" industries. I am glad that you are immortal, but I will die.
                    Our countries had a choice - to work or steal. China chose to work, our power is to steal. The selection results are in front of us.
            2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 7 July 2020 19: 17 New
              +1
              Quote: Mikhail3
              USA shamefully merges China

              The topic is undeniably interesting. But our conversation is not about that.
              You did not answer my question. Do you see communism or socialism like that? When does a minority in its purest form exploit an absolute majority? Do you like communism / socialism? Should this be sought? Is this a fair society?
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 8 July 2020 08: 57 New
                -1
                Answered. I will try to answer again. As for the minority exploiting the majority, this is your speculation. You cannot build speculation on speculation. Chinese entrepreneurs make profits by expanding production in every way. So far, no choice has been made in this regard. The fact is that the well-being of Chinese workers is growing rapidly, albeit from a very low base. What will happen next - we'll see. In any case, this provision has a development prospect, in contrast to what has developed in our country, and is characterized by a steady decline in wealth and living standards.
                1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                  Boris ⁣ Shaver 8 July 2020 19: 39 New
                  0
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  As for the minority exploiting the majority, this is your speculation

                  This is clearly indicated by the structure of income distribution in China. This is elementary.

                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  The fact is that the welfare of Chinese workers is growing rapidly

                  For a slave, after working on a plantation under the scorching sun with the overseer's whip in close proximity and moving to the kitchen to wash the dishes, it is a rapid growth.
                  In China, the entire economy is built on cheap labor, by definition there cannot be a decent life for the worker - he must be poor and agree to work for a penny
                  1. Mikhail3
                    Mikhail3 9 July 2020 08: 50 New
                    0
                    The trick is that the Chinese are not slaves. The Chinese introduced a mass of capitalist elements into the socialist structure. Having retained the most important thing, which is the essence of socialism - the unified management of the economy, reliance on science, social orientation, the development of a person who is becoming more intelligent and educated.
                    That is why China is now calmly and systematically winning the rest of the planet in economic competition. And the United States can only bubble up helplessly, and to a country that has decided that thieves, bandits and murderers will lead it ahead, what remains for this country? Oh ...
                    1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                      Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 July 2020 10: 36 New
                      0
                      Quote: Mikhail3
                      Having retained the most important thing, which is the essence of socialism - a single management

                      Uhh. You wrote above that the main thing in socialism is developed production. Does this phrase of yours mean that you were mistaken before?
                      And again. There is unified management in the United States as well - who prints dollars controls the economy.
                      So that you no longer wander in the wilds of incorrect messages, we simply define communism and socialism as systems designed to ensure social equality.
                      Communism - means of production belong to to the people.
                      Socialism - means of production controlled by by the people.

                      Total The state apparatus under socialism is only a conductor of the people's will in the control of production and the economy. As soon as the state (and as a result, the economy with production) begins to be controlled not by the people, but by "representatives of big business" - the system ceases to be socialist and begins to work for the benefit of a narrow group of people. How to determine this moment? Yes, it’s very simple: you need to go back to the beginning and remember that the goal of both communism and socialism is social equality / justice. If we see how social inequality is growing in the country, then there can be no talk of any socialism / communism.

                      Quote: Mikhail3
                      The Chinese introduced a mass of capitalist elements into the socialist structure

                      Mostly the oligarchy and exploitation of the majority by the minority.
                      1. Mikhail3
                        Mikhail3 10 July 2020 10: 01 New
                        0
                        The main message of the dispute is not mentioned in each paragraph, so I was not "mistaken before," and now it’s not very)
                        Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        So that you no longer wander in the wilds of incorrect messages, we simply define communism and socialism as systems designed to ensure social equality.

                        No, of course, neither communism nor socialism can be defined. This is something at the level of Khrushchev's chatter, which promised to fill everyone with goods and products, and imagined socialism with communism as a mountain of good, from which anyone can take as much as you want.
                        I can’t imagine any social equality under communism, I’m not even talking about socialism, nor why would people need it. I’ll write an article on this topic, as the hands reach. May be.
                      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
                        Boris ⁣ Shaver 10 July 2020 10: 24 New
                        0
                        Quote: Mikhail3
                        No, of course, neither communism nor socialism can be defined.

                        Well, as it were, the definitions themselves are somewhat lower. Through the means of production.

                        Quote: Mikhail3
                        I can not imagine any social equality

                        This is the goal of both systems.

                        Quote: Mikhail3
                        . I will write an article on this topic

                        It’s good to study theory first
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 7 July 2020 08: 57 New
      +5
      The CCP of China simply determines the direction of development, if you want to build ships, do this and that. AND DESIRE FOR YOUR MONEY. They steal but not in such quantities. He stole, fled from China and you can’t hide anywhere. China Towns exist everywhere and you don’t live there just just emigrants!
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 7 July 2020 09: 13 New
        +8
        Uh ... about the lack of theft among the Chinese - I would not be so categorical, you know. East is a delicate matter.
        We also have one time, and there was no sex)
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 7 July 2020 09: 36 New
          +7
          Quote: Vlad.by
          We also have one time, and there was no sex)

          Without love :))) The phrase was torn out of context, and it sounded like "there is no sex without love." Which, of course, too ... but still not so
          1. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 7 July 2020 15: 53 New
            0
            It wasn’t there "without love" initially! I saw this teleconference
            1. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 7 July 2020 20: 30 New
              0
              Then you saw that the poor girl was simply not allowed to tell!
              1. Vlad.by
                Vlad.by 8 July 2020 19: 22 New
                0
                Wow "girl"!
                This lady was definitely over 30!
                And then, she very definitely, with a pause, declared that there is no sex. Then laughter in two halls on two continents
                1. sharp-lad
                  sharp-lad 8 July 2020 19: 35 New
                  0
                  At my age, any lady in only 30 is a girl! smile hi
                  1. Vlad.by
                    Vlad.by 8 July 2020 19: 41 New
                    0
                    Strange, but in my 60s thirty is no more than my likely partner. Prize.
                    Younger - most likely it’s not interesting to communicate during breaks, after 40 already ...
                    But 30 is not a “poor girl”)))
                    Do not be discouraged!
        2. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 7 July 2020 09: 58 New
          +5
          I don’t deny that they steal, but they have a return system. I don’t understand how they influence a corrupt official, but thieves come back to China voluntarily after a while !!! It is not clear how they achieve this ?.
          1. Pattor
            Pattor 7 July 2020 10: 20 New
            +3
            For such a program operates the heavenly network. Pay to the state, pay part of the celestial network, and we will remove the criminal of mercy from you.
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 July 2020 10: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: Vlad.by
          Uh ... about the lack of theft among the Chinese - I would not be so categorical, you know. East is a delicate matter.

          In the East, many problems are solved more easily than ours. I stood in Dalian on the shipyard. Upon arrival, the builder got on board and puts on the table the package "The master is here for you for two and with grandfather $ 20 to solve all problems." Repair went fine.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 7 July 2020 12: 28 New
            +1
            The repair question wasn’t on paper, or should you just not give your advice?
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 7 July 2020 14: 30 New
              0
              Quote: tralflot1832
              The repair question wasn’t on paper, or should you just not give your advice?

              Normal normal repair, housing, painting, mechanisms, DG, dock. Somewhere in the middle of dollars. It came out cheaper than in Europe by almost half. It was simpler that there was no need to write a bunch of rem.news, many issues were resolved on the go. Two translators of Russian.
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 7 July 2020 15: 09 New
                +1
                I understand you. Sorry Master cuts my ear. The captain is the captain. Always with respect. Whether you are a good or bad cap. The cap is always responsible for everything that happened on board, it’s both a god and a sovereign. You have a separate contract. I’m simple refmashinist. in the USSR and Russia, he always had “bonuses” for repairs. Whenever I was not envious, I had to study over it. Well, because of this, the captains always signed a personal request while I was sitting on the shore. A month, two or more after our sea vacations. Paper it’s something. I made it out to computers. I knew Fse, I saved the old woman from the article, I “wisely” wanted to pay a report. Then I drank in the Arctic in Murmansk. fishing gear,) you will never be a captain. Good luck, health and seven feet under the keel. 2.5 meters is not enough!
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 7 July 2020 16: 37 New
                  +1
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  “Major” (in the captain’s field, responsible for fishing gear), you will never be a captain.

                  I remember that, Major. After the fleet, the “father” walked for 4 months. And the master was in shipping and under the flag. So I'm used to it for 25 years.
      2. K-612-O
        K-612-O 7 July 2020 09: 54 New
        +4
        God, you are mine! You have the illusions of the times of Mao.
    3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 7 July 2020 09: 35 New
      10
      Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Second place in the number of dollar billionaires in the world after the United States. One of the strongest stratifications in the world

      Is this something fundamentally different from us? Yes, nothing. We also have the strongest stratification and also a lot of dollar billionaires.
      Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
      which only grows from year to year - the gap between rich and poor in China is growing

      Like ours. But at least they have industrial results. And we have...
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 7 July 2020 10: 16 New
        0
        The stratification is the same. How much China has a super ferfe and how many do we have. A star in the Far East is a super ferf?
    4. NordUral
      NordUral 7 July 2020 11: 29 New
      +1
      Let the Chinese think about this. We have our own problems.
  3. K-612-O
    K-612-O 7 July 2020 09: 53 New
    -1
    Where did you find the communists there? Firewood is also written on the fence, and behind it is anything but firewood.
    The CCP is a sign for quite a historical state tradition of China.
  4. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 7 July 2020 10: 03 New
    +2
    Quote: Civil
    1. Aircraft carrier.
    2. In the closed.
    3. Dry dock.

    Well, it looks something like this

    Or like this
  5. DEVIL LIFE`S
    DEVIL LIFE`S 7 July 2020 12: 35 New
    0
    Or maybe during the transfer used masking agents.
  6. iouris
    iouris 7 July 2020 12: 57 New
    0
    Quote: Civil
    Communists can do anything.

    And Komsomol members!
  • antivirus
    antivirus 7 July 2020 08: 36 New
    +4
    The declared displacement of this ship is about 80 thousand tons. At the same time, its power installation in the project is designated as non-nuclear.

    -in the early 2000s: "we survived, we keep aircraft carriers, to transfer Kuzya from wall to wall we need to burn the composition of diesel fuel." and sold "Gorshkov" and "Kuzyu" for repair (the longer - the better for the budget) put

    again about the cons and 7x70 t VI - don’t build aircraft carriers,
    and first create a BASIS (do we have somewhere walls of this length and size? are it just closed puddles?) - UNDER SUCH LARGE SHIPS WITH CHP AND AIR DEFENSE, KECh and storage facilities + air base and deck repair, docks and ship-repair plant (live! !!!)
    and most importantly - they calculate all the costs of maintaining an aircraft carrier for 50 years (or how long will it be?) - not the cost of construction, but the cost of maintenance for the entire life cycle

    haven’t gotten that much money (including roads and hospitals in the Central Federal District + Far Eastern Federal District) and there is no prospect of getting them for 50 years ahead, so as to divert to the trough of 70 TVI
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 July 2020 10: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: antivirus
      haven’t gotten that much money (including roads and hospitals in the Central Federal District + Far Eastern Federal District) and there is no prospect of getting them for 50 years ahead, so as to divert to the trough of 70 TVI

      So you answered all the questions, with one answer "where is the money ZIN". As my grandfather said, "If I have money, I will buy a cow, and if there is little money, I will buy a goat."
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 7 July 2020 11: 53 New
        0
        I just suggested the train of thought of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation, and not the MO (they are in 3rd place, after the Ministry of Finance and the President)
  • Alien From
    Alien From 7 July 2020 08: 40 New
    +3
    Stripes dream that he would self-destruct ....... but this is fake))) The Chinese are quickly learning))))
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 7 July 2020 10: 13 New
      +2
      Or maybe under his nose to see. It doesn’t matter what the Chinese say about the indoor dry dock! Joke!
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 7 July 2020 12: 50 New
        +1
        Schyutka)) and even what)))
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 July 2020 13: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Alien From
      Chinese learn fast

      If there is enough money, it’s not difficult to study, but when there is no money ...... study not study, but you won’t build a fleet.
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 7 July 2020 14: 45 New
        0
        True of course) ..... but only in part ...... there is our good saying: make a fool pray to God, he will break his forehead)
  • Courier
    Courier 7 July 2020 08: 42 New
    20
    The article about American nuclear carriers:
    Fu, troughs are not needed


    Article about Chinese non-atomic:
    Wow; what cool ships
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 7 July 2020 09: 26 New
      0
      As they say, not in the eyebrow, but in the crotch.
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 7 July 2020 11: 54 New
        +1
        crotch - is it about tenderness? or vice versa?
  • thinker
    thinker 7 July 2020 09: 34 New
    0
    However, in the Chinese media ...
    Sohu knows everything about it yes
    In mid-June, due to prolonged rains in the southern region, the construction site was covered with clouds, and the satellite could not catch the dynamics of the aircraft carrier construction project over the past few days. After cleaning, the sudden disappearance of parts of the aircraft carrier 003 surprised the American intelligence analyst ... On July 2, Forbes reported that parts of the aircraft carrier that had disappeared some time ago suddenly reappeared in Shanghai, in a dry dock, not far from the original construction site. The giant modules pre-built by these aircraft carriers are located in an open dry dock, waiting for further assembly.
    https://www.sohu.com/a/406164513_100185072
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 7 July 2020 10: 12 New
    +5
    The Chinese began to roof their shipyards. From satellites. And the shipyards are huge - with a city square. Particularly disturbing to the Americans is the shipyard building submarines. It was built covered from the very beginning.
    And how many submarines are stamped there per year is unknown.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 7 July 2020 12: 35 New
      +2
      All self-respecting countries build submarines in closed hangars. And the USSR also had screws at supply bases along the railway roads, screws from submarines scattered for spies. In the summer of 20, I observed this picture in the north.
  • NF68
    NF68 7 July 2020 16: 14 New
    0
    What is there to guess. The gypsies stole. Only they can crank up such a feint.
  • muham
    muham 7 July 2020 19: 16 New
    0
    Which disappeared"
    Where where. I went into scuba diving.
  • Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 7 July 2020 21: 05 New
    0
    For some reason, the question arose ...
    How many aircraft carriers fit in a Chinese dry dock?
  • fider
    fider 8 July 2020 09: 50 New
    -2
    He was cut into needles. laughing
  • Siberian southerner
    Siberian southerner 8 July 2020 14: 50 New
    0
    The Chinese have run in stelestehnologii. They work.