"Wake Stalin in Putin": an investigation into housing for military personnel in Moscow

Radio AURORA published a material describing oddities with housing for military personnel in the Russian capital. The authors report that the state handed over to the Moscow government property worth about 14 billion rubles (far from current prices), but the Moscow government did not receive a single apartment for the military, which was initially promised by the Moscow authorities. The specific numbers of “promises” are called - 6000,3 square meters of housing for military personnel.

The investigation conducted by Aurora on this subject, the authors themselves proposed to call it this way: "Wake Stalin in Putin." The expectation is that the president will act rationally and toughly against those officials who, in this context, have not fulfilled their promises.

The author of the investigation presents a document of 1998 sample, which stipulated the obligations of the parties to transfer ownership of buildings and structures to the Moscow government and reciprocal allocation of housing for military personnel. It is noted that the Moscow government itself proposed this kind of “exchange” - mansions in the center of Moscow for housing for military families.

How the investigation was conducted and how it ended is described in the story of Radio AURORA:

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[The popuas]

They won’t find the ends, most likely the power men are “messed up” there, so they won’t look! They will make noise, but will eat in quiet!

[Valery Valery]

An interesting fact (he was surprised when he found out): ALL MILITARY COUNTRIES PAY TAXES IN THE BUDGET OF MOSCOW. Due to the fact that the ERC of the RF Ministry of Defense is located in Moscow, the taxes of all military personnel go to the capital.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Valery Valery

An interesting fact (he was surprised when he found out): ALL MILITARY COUNTRIES PAY TAXES IN THE BUDGET OF MOSCOW. Due to the fact that the ERC of the RF Ministry of Defense is located in Moscow, the taxes of all military personnel go to the capital.

That is, finances are being transferred from the budget of Russia to Moscow. Not bad, someone "works."

[Malyuta]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

That is, finances are being transferred from the budget of Russia to Moscow. Not bad, someone "works."

The looting of the country has not stopped since 1991, and now it will go at an increasing pace.

[Vend]

And it seems that everything was written correctly, but the sediment remained "Awaken Stalin in Putin." continue to bend in the direction they need. Liberasty they are liberalists

[rocket757]

The author of the investigation presents a document of 1998 sample, which stated the obligations of the parties.

And where are now those parties who promised something, the parties ??? In which cabinets, on which shores are nesting?

[Shuttle]

It is interesting that the image of Vissarionych, when it is really necessary, is presented as the image of the leader of a “tough, but rational" one. Those. positive, appropriate to the place, time and circumstances.
This is already great progress for public consciousness. So you look at the wind of history and will really take down all the rubbish and lies dumped by envious people and enemies from Joseph Dzhugashvili’s monily.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: Shuttle

It is interesting that the image of Vissarionych, when it is really necessary, is presented as the image of the leader of a “tough, but rational" one. Those. positive, appropriate to the place, time and circumstances.
This is already great progress for public consciousness. So you look at the wind of history and will really take down all the rubbish and lies dumped by envious people and enemies from Joseph Dzhugashvili’s monily.

No, unfortunately, nothing will blow. Image I.V. Stalin is inseparable from the figure of Lenin, from the Marxist-Leninist theory, which is the modern ruling class, like a knife at the throat. Therefore, a kind of cruel dictator is being sculpted from Stalin, who did not give a damn about democracy and created a rigid vertical of power. According to our political technologists, it is precisely such a Stalin that is needed to justify the current domestic political course of our authorities.

[AU Ivanov.]

With a greater degree of probability, Lenin would share the fate of Bukharin with Kamenev if he lived to see the mid-thirties. And with the Marxist - Leninist theory, the IVS treated very freely. And yes - Stalin was a dictator, if he were not, then there would be no country: faithful Leninists would bring it to the Zugunder. Red Monarch, according to the tagged characteristic of Bushkov.

[bober1982]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

Yes, and with the Marxist - Leninist theory of IVS treated very freely

Stalin and, in practice, also very freely treated the old Leninist guards and the old KGB cadres - he hated them.
Destroyed as a class.

[AU Ivanov.]

The Lenin Guard is the enemy of the people. Here I completely agree with Stalin.

[bober1982]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

Here I completely agree with Stalin.

I also agree, you can add to this whole audience, a legion of former People’s Volunteers, political prisoners, former bombers, anarchists, philosophers and thinkers, and others. I didn’t touch some of them just because of their madness.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

The Lenin Guard is the enemy of the people. Here I completely agree with Stalin.

What is, in your opinion, the "Lenin Guard"? Who specifically and for what do you consider the enemies of the backgammon? What do you agree with Stalin?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: bober1982

Stalin and, in practice, also very freely treated the old Leninist guards and the old KGB cadres - he hated them.

And there was a reason.

[Malyuta]

Quote: bober1982

Stalin and, in practice, also very freely treated the old Leninist guards and the old KGB cadres - he hated them.
Destroyed as a class.

Where do you get such garbage from?

[AU Ivanov.]

Bullshit? Lenin’s associates, by the end of the 30s, were almost completely destroyed. Like enemies of the people. Here is such garbage.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: bober1982

Stalin and, in practice, also very freely treated the old Leninist guards and the old KGB cadres - he hated them.

What do the proofs in the studio say, please?

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

With a greater degree of probability, Lenin would share the fate of Bukharin with Kamenev if he lived to see the mid-thirties.

If my grandmother had a male genital organ, she would be a grandfather.

Quote: AU Ivanov.

And with the Marxist - Leninist theory, the IVS treated very freely.

Please provide links to primary sources where, in your opinion, he "very freely treated the Marxist - Leninist theory."

Quote: AU Ivanov.

Red Monarch, according to the tagged characteristic of Bushkov.

You would have quoted Solzhenitsyn.

Quote: AU Ivanov.

And yes - Stalin was a dictator

The power leverage in his hands was significantly less than that of Putin. Who, then, is our president?

Quote: AU Ivanov.

faithful Leninists would bring her to the zugunder

Stalin was a faithful Leninist.

[AU Ivanov.]

The main accusation of Stalin by Khrushchev was based on the fact that Stalin departed from Leninist principles. And Lenin himself was opposed to Stalin being the First Secretary of the CPSU (B.).
"Comrade Stalin, having become secretary general, concentrated immense power in his hands, and I’m not sure if he will always be able to use this power with caution"
V.I. Lenin
And a little later:
"Stalin is too rude, and this shortcoming, which is quite tolerable in the environment and in the communications between us Communists, becomes intolerable in the post of Secretary General. Therefore, I suggest that the comrades consider a way to move Stalin from this place and appoint another person to this place."

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

The main accusation of Stalin by Khrushchev was based on the fact that Stalin departed from Leninist principles.

It is foolish to talk about Khrushchov’s accusations, but your Khrushchev didn’t depart from Lenin’s principles?

Quote: AU Ivanov.

And Lenin himself was opposed to Stalin being the First Secretary of the CPSU (B.).
"Comrade Stalin, having become secretary general, concentrated immense power in his hands, and I’m not sure if he will always be able to use this power with caution"
V.I. Lenin
And a little later:
"Stalin is too rude, and this shortcoming, which is quite tolerable in the environment and in the communications between us Communists, becomes intolerable in the post of Secretary General. Therefore, I suggest that the comrades consider a way to move Stalin from this place and appoint another person to this place."

If you are already giving a quote from Lenin, then it is customary to give indicating the name of the volume, work, chapter. Or do you suggest picking all 55 volumes so that you would not find anything later?

[AU Ivanov.]

36th volume of the fourth edition of the complete works of Lenin.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

36th volume of the fourth edition of the complete works of Lenin.

Please name the job.

[AU Ivanov.]

"Letter to the Congress"

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

"Letter to the Congress"

Thank. Tell me, did you all read it? After all, he gives similar characteristics there not only to Stalin, but also to Trotsky, Bukharin and Pyatakov. And he expresses his fears for each of the above comrades. In addition, doubts are expressed today about the authenticity of this letter.

[AU Ivanov.]

The authenticity of the "Letter to the Congress" was questioned, for obvious reasons, during the reign of Stalin.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

The authenticity of the "Letter to the Congress" was questioned, for obvious reasons, during the reign of Stalin.

I wrote today. In fact, there is little data for conclusions so far.

[alone]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Your Khrushchev himself did not depart from the Leninist principles?

Did he even have principles?

[flicker]

The main accusation of Stalin by Khrushchev was based on the fact that Stalin departed from Leninist principles.

Well, this is a well-known trick.
At one time, Alexander Nikolayevich Yakovlev said that for the collapse of the USSR it was necessary to discredit Stalin, for this they began to strike at Stalin with the authority of Lenin. Like, Stalin moved away from the line of Lenin. And they were preparing to strike at Lenin with authority of Plekhanov, saying that Lenin departed from the ideas of Marx (as the Marxist-Plekhanov wrote about it at one time).
But they didn’t have to hit Lenin - for the country collapsed after the attacks on Stalin.
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The same trick is being used today - they are trying to beat Stalin with authority over Putin, saying that Stalin was solving problems, but Putin couldn’t.
They can’t beat Putin with authority over Yeltsin or Gorbachev (because there’s nothing there), that’s what they beat with Stalin.
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Khrushchev became Secretary General thanks to one ethnic NETWORK (not to individuals, namely NETWORK), which existed within the Communist Party.
Moreover, this network was (until a certain time) completely communist, and therefore it worked for the USSR.
But as soon as this ethnic group had its own state, this "network" began to work for its state and the main financial sponsor, this US state.
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"Network" just painted with a psychological portrait of Khrushchev, especially his personal not love for Stalin, and therefore helped him.
Khrushchev was heavily indebted to this ethnic "network", was forced to fulfill their "wishes", was dependent on it - because of which he did not like this ethnos.
---
The Caribbean crisis cost Khrushchev the post of Secretary General, for the geldings advised to remove the latter, promising "friendship, chewing gum, rock and roll."
Khrushchev didn’t even try to keep the memo of the Secretary General, since the “network” opened up for him in support, after which Khrushchev wilted and measured his fate.
---
So Khrushchev was (despite tyranny) quite a driven man.

[WIKI]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

Lenin would share the fate of Bukharin with Kamenev,

S 19: 20

[Boris55]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Image I.V. Stalin is inseparable from the figure of Lenin, from the Marxist-Leninist theory,

Very separable. In his work, "The Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR," Stalin proposed abandoning Marxism:

"... I think that our economists should put an end to this discrepancy between the old concepts and the new state of affairs in our socialist country, replacing the old concepts with new ones corresponding to the new position. We could tolerate this discrepancy until a certain time, but now the time has come, when we must finally eliminate this discrepancy ... "IV Stalin.

[AU Ivanov.]

There is an opinion that Stalin, at the end of his reign, decided to completely remove the party from real power, leaving it with only ideological functions. Was this the reason for his death?

[Boris55]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

that Stalin, at the end of his reign, decided to completely remove the party from real power

You can easily find in the internet Stalin's toast "For the Russian people." In it you will not find a single mention of the role of the party in the victory over fascism.

Quote: AU Ivanov.

Was this the reason for his death?

In fact, Stalin has not ruled the country since 1952. He died of a 4th heart attack. Not immediately, but help was impossible to him - heart transplants were not yet involved.

[AU Ivanov.]

Stalin died of a stroke, at least this is the official version. It is possible that they helped to die, at least he received medical assistance with great delay.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

There is an opinion

One grandmother said this is a credible source.

[AU Ivanov.]

This grandmother was called Molotov.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

This grandmother was called Molotov.

Give a reference to the source please.

[AU Ivanov.]

Conversations Molotov with Felix Chuev.
And then the Stalinist quote:
“Comrades forget that the Communist Party, no matter how popular, is only a small fraction of the people. The overwhelming majority of the population, the people, consider the government to be their representative body, since it is elected by the deputies for whom the people voted. ” This clear statement by Stalin that one should bet on the government, not the party, spoke for itself.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

This clear statement by Stalin that one should bet on the government, not the party, spoke for itself.

This is nothing more than your subjective opinion, that is, it turns out that Molotov did not say that Stalin wanted to remove the party from power, and you simply lied.

[AU Ivanov.]

This opinion is not mine, but Molotov.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: Boris55

Very separable. In his work, "The Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR," Stalin proposed abandoning Marxism:

"... I think that our economists should put an end to this discrepancy between the old concepts and the new state of affairs in our socialist country, replacing the old concepts with new ones corresponding to the new position. We could tolerate this discrepancy until a certain time, but now the time has come, when we must finally eliminate this discrepancy ... "IV Stalin.

Here is a link to this work:
https://www.marxists.org/russkij/stalin/t16/t16_33.htm
This is the last two paragraphs of chapter two. It is called "The Question of Commodity Production under Socialism." I will not, of course, quote it in its entirety; by reference you can read it. The point there is that under developed socialism, it’s wrong to use certain concepts used by K. Marx to describe capitalism. Nowhere in this or another work did JV Stalin propose to abandon Marxism. Either you read inattentively, or you deliberately mislead people.

[AU Ivanov.]

The Communist Party of China also positions itself as Marxists. However, China's economic success is associated with the transition to a market economy and private ownership of the means of production, large private property.
By the way, the Chinese Communists Stalin enjoys great authority.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

The Communist Party of China also positions itself as Marxists. However, China's economic success is associated with the transition to a market economy and private ownership of the means of production, large private property.
By the way, the Chinese Communists Stalin enjoys great authority.

China has never transitioned to a market economy. In my opinion, there is something between the NEP and the Stalinist artels and cooperatives. Are you a Sinologist? I think not, their mentality is difficult for Europeans to perceive. Not the worst lectures about them at the link: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_tmguhpS2HWY9ZPKNRiSuqAVxxsbqvzH

[AU Ivanov.]

An artel called Huawei? One of China's largest enterprises of private ownership. Or is the Lifan cooperative a private auto giant? China has been moving on a market footing since the late 70s, Deng Xiaoping's reform. This is the secret of their success.

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

An artel called Huawei? One of China's largest enterprises of private ownership. Or is the Lifan cooperative a private auto giant? China has been moving on a market footing since the late 70s, Deng Xiaoping's reform. This is the secret of their success.

Do not distort, read carefully what I wrote.

[AU Ivanov.]

That is, Stalin revises the teachings of Marx in this work?

[aleksejkabanets]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

That is, Stalin revises the teachings of Marx in this work?

Why do you think that the teachings of Marx are dogma? This is not so; it lives and develops. There may be a comparison with the program, with open source code and not correctly, but it develops according to similar principles.

[Shuttle]

Quote: Boris55

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Image I.V. Stalin is inseparable from the figure of Lenin, from the Marxist-Leninist theory,

Very separable. In his work, "The Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR," Stalin proposed abandoning Marxism:

"... I think that our economists should put an end to this discrepancy between the old concepts and the new state of affairs in our socialist country, replacing the old concepts with new ones corresponding to the new position. We could tolerate this discrepancy until a certain time, but now the time has come, when we must finally eliminate this discrepancy ... "IV Stalin.

I read all the letters, but did not understand the meaning. I understand this happens. Especially when you quote other people's quotes.
The IVS considered, as a scientist who had completely mastered dialectical materialism, that Marxism was not a dogma, but a guide to action. That it is a living, developing science. And that it is completely incorrect to use the old, capitalist approaches to management in the conditions of the new, socialist. What is necessary for economists to study these new conditions, describe and apply Marxism to them. After all, Marx himself only predicted communism, scientifically described it, but personally did not see it.

http://www.great-country.ru/rubrika_myths/stalin/00001.html

[Malyuta]

Quote: Boris55

Very separable. In his work, "The Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR," Stalin proposed abandoning Marxism:

You repeat a certain Judas Yakovlev ideologist of perestroika
“A group of true, not imaginary reformers, developed (of course, verbally) the following plan: the authority of Lenin to strike at Stalin, at Stalinism. And then, if successful, Plekhanov and Social Democracy beat Lenin, liberalism and "moral socialism" - revolutionism in general.
A new round of exposing the "Stalin personality cult" has begun. But not with an emotional cry, as Khrushchev did, but with a clear implication: the criminal is not only Stalin, but the system itself is criminal. ”

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Shuttle

So you look at the wind of history and will really take down all the rubbish and lies dumped by envious people and enemies from Joseph Dzhugashvili’s monily.

The wind of history will carry the lie about IV Stalin. Whatever you say, there was order in the country, and the law was the same for everyone, not like now. Look how the democrats and the like from the shit of artist Efremov M. are pulling out. I read today and thought how we are all considered idiots

The lawyer of Mikhail Efremov, Elman Pashayev, reported that there was sufficient evidence of the actor's innocence in a fatal accident. His statement to Russia 24
The defender said that at the time of the accident, the actor did not remember anything, because he was very drunk. “Therefore, I talked with him, I convinced him - we will always have time to admit guilt,” Pashayev said.

Everything is upside down: "Drunk, he doesn’t remember anything, is not his fault." This is in what country can you still think of such a thing ???

[tatra]

The ideology of Stalinophobes after their capture of the USSR / Russia is an excuse for their crimes in the Soviet and post-Soviet periods. Therefore, one part of the Russian Stalinophobes, representing the opposition to the Stalinophobes in power, immediately rushed to justify the murderer and criminal Efremov, and the other part, the Stalinophobes in power, did not put Efremov in prison in accordance with the punishment in the Criminal Code for the crimes he committed. And Putin’s propagandists, who are many in VO, immediately after the acquittal of Efremov, to whom the authorities will give a “suspended sentence,” will also rush to justify Efremov.

[Malyuta]

Quote: tatra

The ideology of Stalinophobes after their capture of the USSR / Russia is an excuse for their crimes in the Soviet and post-Soviet periods.

In this sense, the words of the rare bastard Sasha Yakovlev are very characteristic, whose contribution to the collapse of the USSR is one of the main:
“From the historical point of view, Bolshevism is a system of social insanity, when the peasants, the nobility, the merchants, the entire layer of entrepreneurs, the clergy, intellectuals and intelligentsia were physically destroyed; it is a “mole of history” that has torn out mass graves from Lviv to Magadan, from Norilsk to Kushka; it is a human exploitation based on all types of oppression and environmental vandalism; these are anti-human commandments driven with the ruthlessness of ideological fanaticism, which conceals insignificance; it’s a land mine of monstrous power that nearly blew up the whole world.
From the philosophical point of view, this is the subjective inhibition of objective processes, a misunderstanding of the essence of social contradictions; it is thinking in terms of social narcissism and the reflex rejection of any opponent; the megatonnage of dogmatism, the intermediate and final result of a consumer-prudent attitude to truth.
From the economic point of view, this is the minimum end result at maximum cost due to the voluntaristic denial of the law of value; the anarchy of productive forces and the bureaucratic absolutism of productive relations; conservation of scientific and technological backwardness; growth of congestion; leveling as universal, maybe the only way to "screw" people.
Internationally, it is a phenomenon of the same order with German Nazism, Italian Fascism, Spanish Francoism, half-communion, with modern dictatorial regimes, each has its own characteristics, but the essence remains the same. ”

[antivirus]

counted in subventions and business

[apro]

“Wake Stalin in Putin”

Is there anything to wake up there?

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Stupid article - Stalin is Stalin, and Putin is Putin.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

Stupid article - Stalin is Stalin, and Putin is Putin.

Stalin is Stalin, no matter what they say or write about him, but in the history of Stalin, fascism will be victorious as the country's leader. And no one will take it from him, no matter how much dirt is poured on him. And what will happen to other leaders, history will show.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Can I shake your hand? With pleasure.

[flicker]

Stalin is Stalin, and Putin is Putin.

What and speech.
And then, "wake Putin in Stalin." How is that?
So let everyone then wake up Stalin in themselves, if they believe that it is possible

[tatra]

Stalin and Putin are complete antipodes, both in governing the country, and in selecting personnel, and in who thanks to them becomes the elite of society, and in priorities for the country and people, and in ideology, and in what are those who is for their power and the System, and according to the results of their rule.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tatra

Stalin and Putin are complete antipodes

Stalin was the leader of a socialist country, and the leader of the people, and Putin the leader of a capitalist country, and there are many like him. About people like Stalin they write in history, but about others, history is silent.

[tatra]

Yes, this is not the only point. Stalin is the large-scale development of all sectors of the country, and Putin is the degradation of all sectors of the country, and their parasitism due to the massive export of natural resources and raw materials from the country. Stalin left behind the State, due to which Stalinophobes still parasitize, and none of Putin’s most deceitful and paid propagandists is able to present anything that Putin CREATED, which would be good for the country and the majority of the people.

[flicker]

Stalin and Putin are complete antipodes, both in governing the country and in recruiting,

True, Stalin came to power after the victory of the proletarian revolution. Ie at the time of the spiritual ascent of the people.
But Putin came to power when this very proletariat completely lost all the gains of the revolution. Those. at the moment of spiritual despondency and hopelessness.
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That's just what unites Stalin and Putin that both saved Russia.

[Maks1995]

Ha.
Firstly, they will say that the liberals came up with all this. That’s what they usually say.
2) The investigation is incorrect. Only a select few can do good investigations.
3) The apartments were transferred, just no one noticed.
4) The topic of housing was personally monitored by the sun, on the annual questionnaires GDP was regularly raised, the sun reported a long time ago that everything is fine ....

So .... Navalny is to blame for everything! and point!

[alone]

"Wake Stalin in Putin" - for this, how many alarms will be required and at the same time it will be necessary to buzz until the seventh advent

[flicker]

Wake Stalin in Putin

Is this even possible?
If so, then let everyone in himself wake up.

[Ross xnumx]

The investigation conducted by Aurora on this subject, the authors themselves proposed to call it this way: "Wake Stalin in Putin." The expectation is that the president will act rationally and toughly against those officials who, in this context, have not fulfilled their promises.

I'm just going to die of laughter ...
There was Stalin, there was the city of Stalingrad, there was a battle of Stalingrad, there were plants named after Stalin, there were power plants, exhibitions, metro ...
If Putin begins to wake up, then only Medvedev can wake up in him ... Agree, this is some kind of nonsense: the plant named after Putin ... Putin's breakthrough ... In reality there is only a pension reform named after Putin, the constitution named after Putin and vodka "Putinka" ...

[vavilon]

Now, after the constitutional change, when the supremacy of the law of Russia over the international law is legally enshrined, first of all, it is necessary to restore the death penalty in the Criminal Code of Russia for embezzlement on a particularly large scale
Only in such a radical way will it be possible to achieve changes in the fight against corruption and official arbitrariness

[Etherion]

Not those times now, crushed everything and everyone. Leaders shredded. Only the left-liberal pack is everywhere raging and rejoicing that there is no one now to call to account. Give them at least one chance in Russia, they won’t miss theirs. And this chance sooner or later, I am sure, they will receive.

[nikvic46]

What features of Stalin want to tie to the current government? Rigidity or pragmatism? The structures of the economy are different. Something can be taken from the experience of China. In vain they write that Marx is out of date. The most valuable thing that the Chinese leadership uses is the distribution of orders by private and state. to enterprises. Which they gladly accept. But blind imitation is harmful.

[tank64rus]

The eternal question for the military in our country. Indeed, only Stalin is needed here. Put the bureaucratic sv..b in place, because in the field they are completely insolent. For them, ordinary people have become nothing. All in one bunch and everything is captured from them. They steal a billion conditional term, crush a pedestrian drunk, because the traffic police cannot stop them, a conditional term, etc. But what about all your own? A simple person where to go. The phrase go to court has long been a mockery. So they say something about the People that the nobles did not allow themselves at one time. How it all ended everyone knows.

[gv2000]

This is not the worst. Worse, when we, laid off in reserve, are simply thrown with housing. I know for myself: I was dismissed in 2006 - still without housing. I struggle, but it seems that I just won’t live.