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Kazan, 1942. Tanks under the gun of Soviet testers

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Pz.Kpfw.III in the vicinity of Kazan. Source: warspot.ru


Tank Competency Center


38th Scientific Research Test Order of the October Revolution Red Banner Institute Marshal of the armored forces Fedorenko, or simply the NIBT Polygon, was transferred from Kubinka, Moscow Region, to Kazan in the autumn of 1941. The capital of the Tatar Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic was, as you know, long involved in the work on tank subject. So the evacuated institute was placed in the buildings of the former "Technical Courses of Osoaviahim", or the Kama school, which has been training tankers since the beginning of the 20s. By the beginning of the war, the largest tank school in the country already existed in Kazan, which was further supplemented by a training center for crews of British tanks Valentine and Matilda. The list of tank assets does not end there: rembase No. 8 was transferred from Kiev, which later became a factory for the restoration of captured equipment. Until mid-1944, the tank repair plant restored about 640 enemy tanks, and in 1943, 349 armored vehicles at once. At this enterprise, over time, they mastered the restoration of the damaged Tigers and Panthers.

Kazan, 1942. Tanks under the gun of Soviet testers
Test report of imported and captured tanks. [/ Size
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The first comparative study of armored vehicles by NIBT specialists was the sea trials of the T-34, Pz.Kpfw.III, Matilda III and Valentine II. At the new site, the investigation was only possible on January 27, 1942, although the corresponding directive of the General Staff came back in December. The German side in this armored four was represented by a tank lost by the Wehrmacht back in July 1941 (then the 18th Panzer Division left the equipment on the battlefield). In the course of the tests, the T-34 proved its superiority in cross-country ability both in virgin snow and in overcoming anti-tank ditches.






Light Tank M3. Source: alternathistory.com

By the summer of 1942, the Main Armored Directorate of the Red Army instructed to conduct special tests of imported and captured tanks, which will be discussed in this article.

The report, signed by Colonel Engineer Alexander Maksimovich Sych, Head of Division 1 of the Polygon, at the end of July, shows the following tanks (in parentheses from the original from 1942): Medium Tank M3 1941 (American M-3 medium tank), Light Tank M3 1941 (American M-3 light tank), Valentine VII of 1942 (Canadian Mk-III Valentine VII), Pz.Kpfw.III of 1940 (German T-III) and Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t) Ausf. E 1939 (Czechoslovak tank "Prague" TNG-S "38t). The last armored car fell into the hands of the Red Army in August 1941 in the battle for Krapivino. Trophy tanks before the tests were repaired in the workshops of the institute. There was another idea to test the British Mk-III Valentine tanks with the AEC A190 engine and the Mk-IIa with the Leyland engine, but there were no serviceable vehicles at the training ground.

Who is the best?


The test program had a mandatory mileage of at least 1000 kilometers by each tank under various road conditions. In the process, the maximum speed, fuel consumption, geometric cross-country ability and ability to overcome the swamp and water obstacle were determined. The tanks were supposed to ply along the highway on the Kazan - Laishevo section, along country roads, as well as plowing, meadows, and wet sand. The most interesting thing is that only imported tanks were able to fulfill the mileage standard and even surpass it, with the Light Tank M3 being 2020 kilometers. Wehrmacht cars fled much earlier due to breakdowns.

Separately regulated fuel quality. Since the Canadian Valentine VII was in Kazan with a GMC 6-71 two-stroke diesel engine, the only diesel fuel prescribed to him. And with the "Americans" there were difficulties. High-octane gasoline was not available, so B-70 was used, and tetraethyl lead or TPP additive had to deal with inevitable detonation. 3 cm was added to the Light Tank M1 gas tank for every kilogram of fuel3 additives, and for the Medium Tank M3, the same weight of TPP gasoline already required three times more. Additives were not supposed to be captured tanks, and they ran on a standard B-70. In principle, the technical operating conditions allowed the use of Wehrmacht machines with an octane rating of 72-74, while the "Americans" demanded 80th gasoline.






Canadian diesel Valentine VII. Source: warspot.ru

The lightest American tank (250 hp. At 12,7 tons), which on the cobblestone and gravel road was able to reach 60 km / h, turned out to be the fastest. Canadian Valentine VII with its 180 l. from. weighing 17 tons failed the test - the maximum speed is only 26 km / h. There was no worse result. It is noteworthy that the testers, despite the frank low-speed tank, curtsy in his direction, noting a relatively high average speed. The explanation is simple: good engine throttle response and well-selected gears in the gearbox. I surprised everyone with the T-III, which accelerated to 45 km / h, which exceeded the passport data.

What the test tanks could not be reproached for was their modest appetite for fuel. The 27-ton Medium Tank M3 off-road (arable land, meadows and wet sand) showed an astounding 570 liters per 100 kilometers! And this is the consumption of high-octane for those times, almost aviation gasoline. Naturally, the cruising range of the tank under these conditions was scanty - only 117 kilometers. The diesel “Canadian” spent the least of all under such conditions - only 190 liters of cheap diesel fuel, but due to the 180-liter tank, the cruising range did not exceed 95 kilometers. A German tank had a similar range on arable land, but gasoline consumption already amounted to 335 liters per 100 km. Czech “Prague” in this sense was easier to fight: fuel consumption of 185 l / 100 km and a range of 108 km.






Medium Tank M3. Source: warspot.ru

Kazan Agricultural Institute has become a testing ground for tanks to overcome elevations and lateral rolls. This once again says that the Polygon did not have a specially prepared site for full-fledged research of armored vehicles. Nevertheless, the engineers managed to identify the geometric parameters of the cross-country ability of imported and captured tanks. Briefly about the conditions of the experiment. On natural slopes, the soil was covered with turf, tanks entered it from a place without acceleration and in first gear. The test for the critical roll of the machine was not static, but in motion. It turned out that the T-III (the steepness of the climb is 35 degrees) is climbing the best, and the worst are the “Americans” and the Czech Pz.Kpfw.38 (t) (30 degrees each). Valentine VII was in the middle and was able to overcome the 32-degree rise. The limiting factor in all cases was the low adhesion of the tracks to the ground: the capabilities of the motor and transmission made it possible to take large slopes. Tanks crawled at critical angles, while track rollers ran onto the crests of the tracks. With the light American M3, I had to conjure a bit during the tests: 15 special spurs were attached to the tracks. However, this did not lead to anything, but only caused the rear part of the tank to be buried in the ground. By the way, the light tank from the USA, the only one of the subjects, with a lateral roll did not drop the tracks during the movement, but intended to roll over. As a result, the best roll result is 35 degrees, the rest (except for the T-III) got rid of the tracks already at a 25-26-degree slope. The German tank held up to 32 degrees.

Water and Swamp Tests


There was no special water ford in Kazan for tank patency tests. Largely due to the unpreparedness of the Kazan site, the NIBT Polygon moved back to Kubinka in 1943. But in the summer of 1942, tanks crossed the Mesha River in the vicinity of the village of Sokury. The river was 1,4 meters deep; cars crossed it on the move at maximum engine speeds. The Medium Tank M3 was the first to go wrong when it dashingly passed the river, but at the exit from it it flooded the engine compartment and took a sip of water with an air intake located vertically in the aft sheet. The light tank from the USA managed to do everything much better than the elder brother - he got ashore himself (although from the second attempt), and also did not get water into the engine. In light M3, air intake is carried out in a vertical aft sheet, which saves when going ashore. Canadian Valentine VII crossed the 1,4-meter river easily, but could not climb the muddy shore. The driver drove back, and river water flooded the engine compartment of the tank above the level of the air cleaner. They pulled out the tank with the Voroshilovets tractor. Despite the failure, the engineers again praised the tank for its high speed in the river due to the throttle response of a diesel engine. When it came to the trophy T-III and Prague, they didn’t even get to the shore: at a depth of 1,3 meters, water flooded the motors. You can only sympathize with the testers. Filled tanks had to be evacuated, the engine disassembled, the water poured from the air cleaner, intake manifold and cylinders, the electrical equipment dried, the engine oil changed and the chassis lubricated.




Water procedures for the Wehrmacht tanks that they failed. Source: warspot.ru

Testers had to look for a swamp for tanks in the area of ​​the villages of Boriskovo and Bolshoy Otary. It turned out to be the old riverbed 100 meters long and 1,2 meters deep, which, however, was quite passable for humans. They guessed very well with the weather - it rained for 27 hours before the races. Tanks crossed the obstacle in a straight line there and back without shifting gears. The 3-ton medium M30 got stuck after 3 meters, they tried to extract it using a log, but they broke the track and pulled it out already with two tractors. The light M50 turned out to be great and in a fresh place overcame the swamp back and forth, but when the testers drove it into the swamp in its own tracks, it got stuck. Valentine VII successfully completed the task, but stumbled on its own, but crawled out of the swamp with a log. T-III walked 38 meters and was hopelessly bogged down, unlike the fellow Pz.Kpfw.XNUMX (t), who ran the swamp back and forth.

In the final comparison, the testers noted the inconsistency of the parameters of the presented tanks, but they especially highlighted the American cars for high reliability and the ability of the average M3 to transport 10 fighters with machine guns. The trophy cars, on the other hand, did not show themselves in anything special, while they openly failed the water procedures and finally failed even before overcoming 1000 kilometers.
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  1. mark1
    mark1 8 July 2020 06: 07 New
    10
    Interesting. To be continued? The war is even closer to the initial phase.
    1. Civil
      Civil 8 July 2020 10: 06 New
      10
      The article is fire! The author is waiting for the continuation. About Sherman, T-IV, Matilda and Churchill.
    2. oldbuddy
      oldbuddy 14 July 2020 12: 30 New
      +1
      Have you been banned from Goole?

      Offhand: Dmitry Shein, known on the Internet as litl_bro, actively works in archives (unlike ..) and uploads a lot of scanned documents in his LJ.
      In the above privacy, he can find:

      Central Research Institute-48 report on the topic "Study of the armor protection of tanks of the German army"
      and the NIBT report of a test site for testing German tanks with shelling from armor-piercing and fragmentation shells from tank guns.

      In fact, both reports have documented for many years rumors circulating among military history buffs about the problems of the Forty-five with the defeat of German tanks of 1941-1942 on the forehead.


      "The results of the shelling of the Czechoslovak tank" Prague "38T from a 45-mm cannon of 1934 model with an armor-piercing tracer shell ... A 45-mm armor-piercing tracer shell pierces the frontal armor 50 mm from a distance of 200 meters *.

      The results of the shelling of the German assault tank "Art-Assault" from a 45-mm domestic cannon arr. 1942, mounted on the T-70 tank, armor-piercing tracer shell manufactured in 1938 .... 45-mm armor-piercing shell, when fired from a gun mod. 1942, 50-mm frontal armor does not penetrate at any distance. The reason is the lack of projectile strength.

      The results of shelling a German tank T-III from a 45-mm gun mod. 1934 with an armor-piercing projectile ... a 45-mm armor-piercing projectile of 60 mm of frontal armor does not penetrate at any distance.

      The results of shelling a German tank T-IV from a 45-mm gun mod. 1934 .... 45-mm armor-piercing shell, when fired from a gun mod. 1934, breaks through frontal armor 50 mm thick from a maximum distance of 50 meters. "


      During the tests, the accuracy and accuracy of the guns, the accuracy and ease of aiming (shooting from 800 m by StuG) were also evaluated. The result is predictably disappointing: “The best-accuracy aiming at a target of any size, accuracy and accuracy of shooting from a place, from the given guns with sights, is the 50-mm gun installed in the German T-III tank. The worst in accuracy and accuracy of battle of guns is 45 mm gun mounted in the T-70 ".
      1. misti1973
        misti1973 21 August 2020 22: 49 New
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        There was also an interesting story with the mixing of American gunpowder with saltpeter. As always, through one place, as a result, the power of the shells dropped by 30 percent.
  2. bairat
    bairat 8 July 2020 06: 10 New
    15
    Informative good only the village is not Sosura but Sokura. I'll show the photos to my neighbors, the T-3 on Mesh is a bomb.
    The tank training ground has now been crushed, built around the villages, it remains only to shoot and drive from the machine gun. And before, up to 152mm they thumped, the whole district was shaking.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 17 September 2020 09: 06 New
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      We also had a joke near St. Petersburg. After a long period of non-use, the tankers finally went to one of the training grounds. We arrived, and there ... the cottage village was built: people are busy in the gardens, children are playing ... lol
  3. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 8 July 2020 06: 10 New
    -12
    Interestingly, in the USSR, Japanese tanks were tested? Judging by the fact that the best cars in the world are Japanese, Japanese tanks should have been very reliable, albeit with weak weapons and armor, but the quality should have been up to par.
    1. Sergey_G_M
      Sergey_G_M 8 July 2020 06: 25 New
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      Modern Japan and Japan since the Second World War are two completely different countries.
      There were big problems with the reliability and quality of Japanese technology at that time.
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 8 July 2020 06: 43 New
        -6
        Read http://voenteh.com/voennye-avtomobili/yaponiya.html
        The production culture of the Japanese has always been very high, the same WWII aircraft were not inferior to the American ones, the only trouble was that there were few of them.
        1. Sergey_G_M
          Sergey_G_M 8 July 2020 07: 20 New
          +7
          I didn’t read everything; I went through your link diagonally so far.
          Here is an article about standardized army vehicles:
          One way or another, Japanese standardized cars turned out to be simple, inexpensive and quite acceptable for the national armed forces of the pre-war era, although they seriously lagged behind the later developments of European and American companies in terms of technical level, reliability and workmanship.

          The industry of Japan at that time was just being created and it was not worth waiting for some special quality from it.
        2. Sergey_G_M
          Sergey_G_M 8 July 2020 07: 40 New
          +5
          I found you a little about the tests of the Japanese tank:
          https://www.livejournal.com/media/114297.html
          No special quality was found by our experts.
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 8 July 2020 08: 07 New
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            The quality is not mentioned there, the Soviet testers noted the weak armament and armor of the tank, but at the same time positively noted the powerful air-cooled diesel engine, spacious fighting compartment, simplicity of design and ease of access to units and repairs, asbestos coating and triplexes are also present on the tank in surveillance devices.
        3. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 8 July 2020 08: 55 New
          -1
          Aircraft were inferior and significantly. The problem was primarily with motors
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 8 July 2020 09: 15 New
            +3
            Zero in 1941-1942 was superior to Amer fighters.
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 8 July 2020 10: 32 New
              +3
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              Zero in 1941-1942 was superior to Amer fighters.

              Only due to the excellent training of the pre-war IJN pilots and the irrepressible desire to get into the dogfight of the USN and USAAF pilots. Cooperative mat, so to speak.
              By the way, the technical characteristics of the Zero became one of the reasons for the defeat at Midway: due to the small BC of the guns, the anti-aircraft fighter jets quickly remained without ammunition. And Nagumo had to strengthen the air defense with fighters covering the second shock wave and occupy the AB decks by takeoff and landing operations and reloading fighters (instead of raising the second wave).
            2. Kurare
              Kurare 9 July 2020 10: 48 New
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              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              Zero in 1941-1942 was superior to Amer fighters.

              Exceeded due to the good ratio of engine power, lightweight construction and good aerodynamics. But, a particularly lightweight construction came at a high price: a small BK (they already wrote here) and practically unprotected and not protected tanks. Hit an incendiary bullet in such a tank and that's it, the plane is lost.
        4. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 8 July 2020 10: 22 New
          +4
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          The production culture of the Japanese has always been very high, the same WWII aircraft were not inferior to the American ones, the only trouble was that there were few of them.

          Ki-61 looks at bewildered high culture of japanese production. smile
          1. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 8 July 2020 10: 37 New
            0
            The Yapes had an idiotic squabble between the army and the navy; they could not stand each other. And they could take Zero as a fighter, which would be good both as a front-line, and as a long-range, and as a barrage.
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 8 July 2020 18: 15 New
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              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              And they could take Zero as a fighter, which would be good both as a front-line, and as a long-range, and as a barrage.

              Front-line fighter with a small BK guns and lightweight design? It might do for China, but with fans to put John Mozesovich’s products on anything, there will already be problems.
              1. LastPS
                LastPS 17 July 2020 22: 55 New
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                It was possible to calmly pull Zero to the demands of the military. Protected fuel tanks and an armored backplate in place of fuel cannot be supplied - they did so in the latest modifications. This stupid clan efficiency of the Japanese military machine significantly reduced.
        5. doubovitski
          doubovitski 10 July 2020 11: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          Read http://voenteh.com/voennye-avtomobili/yaponiya.html
          The production culture of the Japanese has always been very high, the same WWII aircraft were not inferior to the American ones, the only trouble was that there were few of them.

          There is a saying that the quality of the product is laid by the designer, is provided by the worker, and is supported by the consumer. You mean the quality of production. But, before that, you need a good school. In this case, tank building. In Japan, she was not there. Everything else becomes completely useless, if not that is laid .....
    2. VIP
      VIP 8 July 2020 14: 53 New
      0
      I did not know that cats are ardent fans of the Japanese. It will be necessary to take a closer look at your cat, otherwise the FIG knows what he’ll think of.
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 8 July 2020 17: 29 New
        +1
        I have a Toyota car, I am satisfied with it, it drives as it should, and does not require repairs.
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 8 July 2020 06: 48 New
    +4
    Very! Very interesting! Thanks to the author!
  5. ont65
    ont65 8 July 2020 08: 01 New
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    Thanks to the author for interesting material. But this, like many others, was not accidentally transferred to Kazan. There was a base, including the Kazan Higher Tank Command School, which is still famous today.
    1. Alexey Gorshkov
      Alexey Gorshkov 9 July 2020 17: 03 New
      +1
      It was especially famous at sunset of the USSR - here then officers were purposefully trained to serve in Germany, training them on the most advanced equipment! Even among the tank schools of the USSR, it was some kind of "Potemkin village"!
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 17 September 2020 09: 52 New
        0
        The article is one more nail in the coffin of the propagandist myth, which was replicated in the USSR, about the allegedly bad equipment received under Lend-Lease from the allies. For example, it was written that our tankers, allegedly, did not want to fight in American and British vehicles, preferring Soviet equipment to them. They say that the equipment from the allies was "useless", and at the first opportunity our soldiers abandoned it and transferred to the domestic one.
  6. Undecim
    Undecim 8 July 2020 09: 40 New
    +6
    I did not understand the idea of ​​overcoming the river. If the ford depth is known, as are the dimensions of the tanks, was it really difficult to determine the possibility of water entering the air intake, which no engine can withstand.
    1. Evgeny Fedorov
      8 July 2020 11: 53 New
      +3
      Obviously, we took into account not only the very possibility of water ingress, but also the speed of filling the tank with water - it’s hard to calculate everything in advance. In addition, testers noted the formation behind the “M3 medium” vortices that prevent water from entering the MTO. All this can only be checked in real life.
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 8 July 2020 12: 25 New
        +3
        The documentation indicates for this type - the maximum ford depth is 40 inches. Maybe the manual was missing?
      2. Aag
        Aag 9 July 2020 16: 51 New
        +1
        Thank you for the article! hi
  7. Cowbra
    Cowbra 8 July 2020 12: 08 New
    +7
    Yes, there’s a lot of interesting things about tanks. Znach first PNV appeared on the Panthers, and only in 44-45 years?

    Tests of the “Pipe” infrared night vision device on the BT-7 tank. Landfill (NIIBT) in the village of Kubinka. 1940 smile
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 8 July 2020 20: 45 New
      0
      I read that NVDs based on the image intensifier tube were in Guderian in 1941. True, this did not help him.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 17 September 2020 10: 04 New
        +1
        In the USSR, in fact, a lot of things were developed before the war. For example, I read that in the USSR they achieved certain successes before the war in the field of ... thermal imagers. They even made gun guidance stations based on infrared vision. In particular, such a station was on a battery that fired at transports going to and from Petsamo. The Germans were surprised at the rather accurate shooting of this battery in conditions of fog and lack of visibility, and until the end of hostilities they believed that the Russians were using the radar for guidance and unsuccessfully searched from the air for the antennas of this radar.
  8. VIP
    VIP 8 July 2020 15: 12 New
    +1
    "38th Research Institute of the Order of the October Revolution" is a modern name, and the author of a haste: forgot to insert one word: "current" and there will be a completely different meaning.
    PS.Author, submit complaints to the “twelfth”: I learn from him
  9. BAI
    BAI 8 July 2020 16: 06 New
    0
    Wehrmacht cars fled much earlier due to breakdowns.

    But the Germans were just proud of the reliability of their machines and considered them more reliable than the Soviet ones.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 8 July 2020 18: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: BAI
      But the Germans were just proud of the reliability of their machines and considered them more reliable than the Soviet ones.

      EMNIP, from the border to Smolensk their "rollers" rolled without any technical problems. But then there were complaints about the broken motor resource and requirements to send engines for replacement.
    2. Cowbra
      Cowbra 8 July 2020 19: 18 New
      +4
      Numbering times ... SchA military archive is digitized, since you do not know:
      SS Regiment Nordland
      30.09.41

      Special order to commanders and unit heads

      During the passage of an empty motorcade of the regiment through Kermenchug in the direction of Podgorny, an intolerant position in the Nordland regiment was revealed.

      The entire composition of the 1st battalion by car reached its destination with little loss, despite battles along the way.

      Motor convoys of the 2nd and 3rd battalions arrived with losses equal to 50% or more, and the 16th company, even with losses of 70% ...

      According to reports, it was established that the discipline on the march was completely unsatisfactory, in the 11th and 12th companies it was exceptionally bad, but worst of all in the 16th company.

      The idiotic, reckless driving, overtaking some cars by others, the lack of an elementary understanding of the technique of movement ... Unterofitsery, knowing the fuel ... showed themselves in most cases as saboteurs and irresponsible villains ...

      In the so-called "technical service" reigned laziness of the worst kind ...

      ... As a result, the fighting of the regiment is currently impossible ...

      ... With regard to drivers ... it is necessary to act mercilessly, taking the most stringent measures to them ... It is completely intolerable that a handful of irresponsible fraudsters dishonor the honor of our regiment ...

      "SS" Standartenfuhrer and regiment commander Scholz

      Generally read - https://afirsov.livejournal.com
      There is such a journalist who professionally secrets in military equipment. Here he from the digitized including about breakdowns on a march at Fritz 41st laid out. When they gave a march of 200-300 km, like ours at that time, they poured exactly like ours, they just step on and repair, and we drop - that's the whole story about their "reliability"
    3. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 9 July 2020 00: 40 New
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      Well, judging by the fact that under the Anschluss of Austria a third of the tanks stood at the sidelines, the much-praised German “quality” of tanks, I believe, is very exaggerated. This is probably better compared to Soviet tanks.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 9 July 2020 11: 20 New
        +2
        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
        Well, judging by the fact that under the Anschluss of Austria a third of the tanks stood at the sidelines, the much-praised German “quality” of tanks, I believe, is very exaggerated.

        No exaggeration. Just German tanks of 1937 and 1941 are two big differences.
        Judging the 1941 tanks by the results of the Anschluss is the same as evaluating the T-34-85 of the 1945 release by the results of the T-34 in 1940. smile
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      2. Cowbra
        Cowbra 10 July 2020 00: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
        Well, judging by the fact that under the Anschluss of Austria, a third of the tanks stood at the sidelines,


        Judging by the fact that in the parades at the full house - you yourself see the photo there - there is NO technology, not a third got up)
  10. Alien From
    Alien From 8 July 2020 16: 19 New
    +3
    Thanks to the author, interesting article!)
  11. Tugarin
    Tugarin 8 July 2020 22: 38 New
    14
    Thank you hi Very informative good
  12. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 9 July 2020 09: 52 New
    +1
    The trophy cars, on the other hand, did not show themselves in anything special, while they openly failed the water procedures and finally failed even before overcoming 1000 kilometers.

    We must not forget that the Lend-Lease tanks were mostly tested without a run, while the captured tanks of the 18th Wehrmacht tank division, captured after a "run" from the western border into the USSR, had already partially exhausted resources (even if they replaced the tracks before the tests and track rollers) so according to this indicator, the measurements do not quite correctly reflect the real potential resource.


    Tank PzKpfw III 18 TD, 1941, the emblem of the division is visible near No., the emblem of tanks equipped for underwater driving is slightly higher [1], after overcoming the Western Bug River at the bottom.

    Part of the tanks, namely the 18th tank division of the Wehrmacht, were equipped in 1941 with equipment to overcome water barriers on the bottom (they were sealed, had ducts)
  13. Alexey Gorshkov
    Alexey Gorshkov 9 July 2020 16: 43 New
    +1
    I myself am from Kazan, I know my tank school perfectly, my last place of work - the Internal Security Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Tatarstan, located in the building of the State Traffic Safety Inspectorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Tatarstan - is located almost across the street from it, next to us is the Institute of Culture, witty nicknamed for its location ( opposite the tank school) "anti-tank school." Among other things, I spent military training in a camp near the training ground of our tank school - in short, I have a lot of memories about it, all the more - I went through training camps, which give the right to become a reserve officer, in AUGUST 1991 (!), I still managed to to become one of the last Soviet "pinjaks", and the oath of a police officer was already given to the Russian Federation!
    What constantly pins me is the inscription on the school’s checkpoint: “Kazan Tank School. Founded in 1866”! Tanks appeared only in half a century! As far as I know, in that place, before the tank school, there were some engineer barracks - I saw them when the training took place - really pre-revolutionary buildings. After the film "Liberation", a bike began to circulate that our tank school supposedly graduated from Guderian. In fact, he was already an officer in World War I, he really came to our school, but WITH INSPECTION!
  14. Alexey Gorshkov
    Alexey Gorshkov 9 July 2020 16: 49 New
    0
    Quote: Cowbra
    Yes, there’s a lot of interesting things about tanks. Znach first PNV appeared on the Panthers, and only in 44-45 years?

    Tests of the “Pipe” infrared night vision device on the BT-7 tank. Landfill (NIIBT) in the village of Kubinka. 1940 smile
    1. Alexey Gorshkov
      Alexey Gorshkov 9 July 2020 16: 55 New
      0
      And our TV tanks (with remote radio control) EVEN KEEP IN 1941 SUCCESSFULLY! True, our tankers, without further ado, just threw out all the television equipment, turning the TV tanks into ordinary T-26s!
  15. Lebed
    Lebed 9 July 2020 17: 21 New
    11
    Yes, the cycle about tanks is interesting. Thank you hi
  16. bad
    bad 9 July 2020 22: 39 New
    +8
    A laborious but necessary process, these very tests.
  17. kytx
    kytx 9 September 2020 12: 00 New
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    "The test for the critical roll of the car was not static, but in motion. It turned out that the T-III climbs the best (35 degrees climb steepness), and the worst of all the" Americans "and the Czech Pz.Kpfw.38 (t) (30 degrees each The Valentine VII ended up in the middle and managed to overcome the 32-degree climb. "

    It seems that we are not talking about the roll, but about the trim

    Sorry for the necropost :)