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How the Khmer Rouge defeated the Vietnamese: the forgotten war of 1978

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It is difficult to find photographs of precisely this short and unsuccessful war of 1978 for Vietnam. And in general, in the black and white mess of the photo archive of the Indo-Chinese wars, it is difficult to make out who is who. This Vietnamese photo shows how the forgotten battles of early 1978 could begin.


В stories a number of wars there are white spots, forgotten events and whole battles that seriously hinder the understanding of the course of the whole war. Sometimes a whole chain of events is replaced by a simple propaganda myth.

A few years ago, I explored the war in Cambodia that was of great interest to me, about which we had little knowledge in essence. I do not need to talk about Oleg Samorodny and his book, since he mainly retold stories from the corridors of embassies (interesting and informative in their own way), and he had an indirect relation to purely military events. Having studied the history of the war in Cambodia, I became preoccupied with the sources. I needed a source that would cover the war day after day. But, since it was impossible to get to the Vietnamese military archives, and the Khmer Rouge military archive was either destroyed or disappeared somewhere (according to some reports, it was taken to Hanoi after the capture of Phnom Penh in early 1979), it was necessary to find some third-party source . And he was found: the Singapore newspaper The Straits Times, whose full-text archive was posted on the website of the Singapore National Library. I rummaged through it with a search, read all the messages that mentioned khmer rouge (their usual name at that time), and wrote down everything at least somehow informative. Journalists usually received information from a newspaper office in Bangkok, which, in turn, was supplied with information by Thai intelligence. She was very interested in everything that was happening in Kampuchea, since Thailand was the first country where the battered Cambodians were beaten in the next round of armed showdown. Due to the difficulties of working with agents, Thai intelligence pushed for radio interception.

Radio interception - Thai intelligence - The Straits Times newspaper. This is how information from the battlefield and from parts of the fighting parties got to the pages of the newspaper. Not everything was accurate and complete, but each message was supplied with an exact release date for the newspaper. This allowed me to compile a chronological table of events, and the geographical points mentioned in the messages allowed me to arrange events on a map. From the pieces of information, a rather interesting picture of the history of the Cambodian war was formed, in which forgotten battles were discovered that were not mentioned by any other source. These are battles that took place from September 1977 to June 1978, that is, the entire dry season of 1977/78, when they usually fight in Cambodia.

These events are forgotten because of their, so to speak, indecentness. Glorified in battle and defeating the Americans, the Vietnamese army suffered a complete defeat and retreated. She was beaten, and by whom? The Khmer Rouge, which only 5-6 years before, the Vietnamese themselves picked up in the jungle, armed, taught to fight! That is, it was a great shame. It’s hard for us to imagine, well, for example, as if the DPR army had defeated the Russian army — that’s a disgrace of about this scale. It is clear that Vietnam was not at all eager to talk about it. I am also sure that the entire propaganda campaign against Pol Pot, which painted him in the blackest colors and began at the end of 1978, appeared to justify the invasion of Kampuchea and to hide the shame of the previous defeat.

This story was described in more detail in my book Radio Interception War. The history of the communist war in Cambodia. "

Unclear background of the conflict


How the long communist war began between Kampuchea and Vietnam (this was a unique case when the Communists fought on both sides, at least initially, until the Khmer Rouge renounced communism in 1981), is still not clear. Countries were of the same ideology, allies, comrades in arms etc. Vietnam was pro-Soviet, Kampuchea - pro-Chinese, but objective reasons for the battle were not visible.

I will not delve into this issue, especially since it requires additional searches; I can only say that, in my opinion, the Vietnamese and Kampuchean communists were pitted by anti-communist rebels. They were decent. For example, in southern Vietnam in 1978, Fam Nam Ha detachments operated, and then the former Commodore of South Vietnamese fleet Hoang Koh Min created an entire army of the National United Liberation Front of Vietnam. In May-June 1977, there were strange skirmishes on the border in the Ha Tien area with troops coming from Kampuchea, about which Singaporean journalists directly wrote that they were "Cambodian or Vietnamese rebels." In September 1977, the fighting west of Ha Thien acquired a large scale, with about 5 Vietnamese soldiers, artillery and aviation. At the same time, in September 1977, Khiu Samphan congratulated the Vietnamese comrades on Independence Day.

I think that the Kampuchean anti-communists acted like mummers of the Khmer Rouge, and they managed to mislead both sides by planting hostility that soon turned into a large-scale war. At the end of December 1977, a major battle involving artillery and aviation broke out in the Svayyeng province of Kampuchea; the Vietnamese lost about 2 thousand people, but began to develop an offensive inland Kampuchea in the province of Takeo. Apparently, this was the first battle between the Vietnamese and Kampuchean troops.

Perhaps the background was still not very clear, as the newspaper reported on December 7, 1977 that Pol Pot and Chinese Deputy Prime Minister Chen Yu Wei for some reason traveled to the Cambodian-Vietnamese border and examined some points there. Reliable facts are clearly not enough for us to understand the background of the Vietnam-Kampuche conflict.

Unexpected defeat


Soon, six Vietnamese divisions crossed the border and captured all of eastern Kampuchea to the Mekong. On January 3, 1978, Phnom Penh radio reported that the front was about 100 km from the city, and the capital could be captured within 48 hours. Relations between Kampuchea and Vietnam were severed, the Vietnamese embassy was expelled.

The Vietnamese attacked with two wedges, in the north along highway number 7, first to the northwest with a turn to the south; and in the south, along Highway 2 almost exactly north, through Takeo to Phnom Penh. That is, ticks. The Khmer Rouge kept a large enclave in the province of Svayrieng, in a ledge deep into Vietnamese territory, along Highway 1. In principle, the situation did not look particularly difficult for the Vietnamese. They captured the ferry across the Mekong to Neak Luong, from where Phnom Penh was within easy reach.

According to estimates by U.S. intelligence in the newspaper, there were about 60 thousand Vietnamese people with tanksand Khmer Rouge - 20-25 thousand people. Any military analyst could, taking all circumstances into account, bet that the Vietnamese would soon be entering Phnom Penh. And I’d be mistaken. On January 6, 1978, the Khmer Rouge launched a powerful counterattack and on January 8 actually defeated the Vietnamese. Radio Phnom Penh reported Vietnamese losses of 29 thousand people killed and wounded, about 100 tanks were destroyed.


Khmer Rouge attack. But this is precisely the photo of 1975, and three years later they were better armed, had equipment and artillery

Most of them, 63 cars, were burned by the Khmer Rouge in battles on Highway 7. For several days there were conflicting reports about who won, but on January 13, 1978, the Deputy Foreign Minister of DRV, Wo Dong Zang, offered Kampuchea peace talks to end the “fratricidal” war. " So it became clear that the Khmer Rouge actually kicked the ass of the Red Vietnamese.

Later, American intelligence also reported that the Vietnamese retreated and now occupy a strip of about 20 km inland Kampuchea from the border. The Khmer Rouge on January 9, 1978 launched an offensive in Vietnam, captured the provinces of Kien Zang, An Zang, Long An and January 19 attacked the city of Ha Tien - the seaport. The Vietnamese lost the main rice-producing province in South Vietnam - An Zang, despite the fact that the situation in the south of the country was close to starvation. Kampuchea also got it; the Vietnamese damaged the Phnom Penh-Kampongsaom railway to the port, where Chinese weapons and ammunition went.

How the Khmer Rouge defeated the Vietnamese: the forgotten war of 1978
The general scheme of military operations from December 1977 to June 1978. Dark red: Khmer red; light red: vietnamese army. The numbers indicate (light red - Vietnamese): 1 - the onset of December 1977 - early January 1978; 2 - an attack on Phnom Penh along the Bassak River in February 1978; 3 - offensive in April-May 1978; (dark red - Khmer red): 1 - offensive into the depths of Vietnam in January 1978; 2 - attempted assault on Ha Tien port in March 1978

Exchange blows


For some time, both sides did not launch large-scale attacks, but exchanged sensitive blows. In February 1978, a large group of Vietnamese, with the support of 30 tanks, helicopters and aircraft, tried to advance on Phnom Penh along the Bassak River, from the south. The offensive was repelled, and the Vietnamese group retreated.

The Khmers in the province of An Zang very successfully repelled the Vietnamese attacks, but they already had the strength to attack and capture the city of Ha Thien, despite the fact that the city center was only 2,5 km away. Khmer Rouge tried to solve the case by landing. Around March 10–13, 1978, a Khmer Rouge battalion landed west of Ha Thien and attempted to advance. The attempt failed.

Meanwhile, the Vietnamese gathered for a large-scale offensive a group of about 200 thousand people. But the Cambodians were lucky. On March 16, 1978, in the province of Kampongtyam, Colonel Nguyen Binh Tinh, an officer in the headquarters of the 5th Vietnamese division, was captured. He spoke of plans for an upcoming offensive in the provinces of Svriyeng, Preyweng and Kompongtam, east and northeast of Phnom Penh, in April 1978.

The officer told the truth, and on April 13, 1978, the Vietnamese went on the offensive, which ended in the loss of 8-10 thousand people for them, burned tanks, a plane shot down and the offer of a ceasefire in early June 1978. The battles went on for a month and a half, but almost nothing significant was reported about these battles in the newspaper.


An unknown Vietnamese officer (most likely a lieutenant) in S-21 Tuol Sleng Prison in Phnom Penh; apparently captured by this unsuccessful war for the Vietnamese

After this setback, Vietnam began to prepare for a more serious attempt to invade Kampuchea, which was associated with a propaganda campaign against Pol Pot, the organization of an anti-Polpot uprising in the eastern zone of Kampuchea (the Vietnamese managed to persuade the entire leadership of the Eastern zone and large rebel groups were formed there) and creating powerful aviation superiority. This attempt was successful and culminated in the capture of Phnom Penh on January 7, 1979. Although this success was a prologue to pulling into a long, bloody and almost inconclusive war with partisans in western Kampuchea, along the border with Thailand.

The reason for the defeat of the Vietnamese in 1978 was, of course, in the Vietnamese themselves, who made serious mistakes. Firstly, the underestimation of the enemy, although shortly before that the Khmer Rouge had switched to a divisional structure, received new weapons from China and were trained by Chinese instructors. Secondly, the plan to take Phnom Penh to the ticks with tank attacks along the roads was not bad only at first glance. In fact, the Vietnamese forces inevitably extended into a long column, extremely vulnerable to flanking attacks; since along the roads there was a terrain impenetrable for equipment, the movement of tanks and vehicles was possible only along the highway. This mistake was made in Kampuchea more than once before the Vietnamese. Thirdly, the shown carelessness. The Khmer Rouge, initially showing very little resistance, allowed the Vietnamese to drive deeper, stretch themselves into the convoy, and then they defeated and destroyed them with flank attacks from both sides.

This all had a shocking effect on the Vietnamese and led to the fact that the Vietnamese leadership was ready to grapple with Paul Then seriously, after having slandered him. This forgotten war, unsuccessful for the Vietnamese, changed a lot in the further course of the communist war in Indochina.
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  1. Far B
    Far B 8 July 2020 06: 55 New
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    And the Khmers pulled a helmet on their heads in prison with all their captives? What entertainers, however!
    PySy. Why did the situation of "war between communists" suddenly become unique? Has the Vietnam-China War been canceled? This is not counting the events at Damanskoye and Lake Zhalanashkol. And the communists from the Khmer Rouge are so-so. Like African "Marxists".
    1. hjvtp1966
      hjvtp1966 8 July 2020 21: 13 New
      +2
      The Bolsheviks are also those Marxists. Old Karl, if he lived, would have been surprised. lol
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 9 July 2020 12: 53 New
        +6
        Well-oo-oo ... Damn ... "Example", author, you still found the ONE yes There were no others?

        it was a great shame. It’s hard for us to imagine, for example, how if the DPR army would defeat the Russian army - this is a disgrace of about this scale.
    2. Alexey Volynets
      Alexey Volynets 15 July 2020 23: 00 New
      +1
      "And the Khmers pulled a helmet over their heads in prison for all their prisoners? What entertainers, however" - This is not a helmet, it is a Vietnamese analogue of a cork helmet, a standard headdress in the Vietnamese army. So the Khmers did not have to pull it ...

      Well, Damansky and Zhalanashkol are still local clashes - up to the level of a direct military clash of tens of thousands of "bayonets |" fall short ...
  2. snerg7520
    snerg7520 8 July 2020 07: 16 New
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    Many thanks to the author!
    I haven’t neigh for a long time - in a voice! - Already fell off the couch with the tablet.
    The author, based on rare publications of explicit Chinese propaganda in a Singaporean (who does not know, also Chinese) newspaper with a radio interception (undercover intelligence - no, did not hear), Thai intelligence (who do not know, in Thailand, ethnic Chinese clans are in power) managed to come up with a harmonious picture of the terrible defeats of the Vietnamese communists by the half-starved wild wilds with red cameras that even occupied part of Vietnam!
    I envy the author with white envy - such grassy grass that he smokes, I never get it!
    The author write ischo - fantasy you succeed as few!
  3. Undecim
    Undecim 8 July 2020 09: 19 New
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    On the one hand, the author seems to have done a great and interesting job. On the other hand, it was breaking into an open door, since relations between Vietnam and Cambodia have not been a secret since the 1834th century. Beginning in the XNUMXth century, Vietnam turned to direct attempts to annex Cambodia, which by XNUMX ended in success - Cambodia became a Vietnamese "province" under the control of the Vietnamese administration, which began to intensively "uproot" the Khmer culture or, as it is now called, "Vietnamese" Cambodia. During the French presence, Cambodia was "cut off" a huge territory. In the twentieth century, Vietnam did not change its approach to Cambodia. So the reasons for the conflict are no secret.
    As for the described conflict, it has been dragging on since 1975. The 1978 escalation was caused by Cambodia, when the Khmer Rouge staged the famous "Batuk massacre" in Vietnam, a Vietnamese village in An Giang province. 3157 people were killed, only two were saved.
    In addition, the "Khmer Rouge" staged terror of the civilian population in the border provinces. Therefore, the combat operations described by the author did not have the goal of capturing the capital of Cambodia, but had the goal of "enforcing peace", which was successfully carried out.
    Regarding the sources used by the author, they are interesting in their own way. But judging from them the events described is about the same as judging the course of the Battle of Kursk from Berlin newspapers.
    1. VIP
      VIP 8 July 2020 12: 47 New
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      General Twelfth, you are snide: "to judge the course of the Battle of Kursk by the Berlin newspapers." Perhaps you do not have "Berlin newspapers"?
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 8 July 2020 12: 49 New
        +6
        And what is the "malice"?
        1. VIP
          VIP 8 July 2020 13: 18 New
          -6
          I’ve been here not so long ago, but I noticed that you have a good deal of harmfulness in the comments
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 8 July 2020 13: 30 New
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            In this case, this is a figurative comparison. As for the "harmfulness", this is from dislike for hack, which has recently been prevalent among site authors.
    2. wehr
      8 July 2020 13: 29 New
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      According to Berlin newspapers, it is unlikely to succeed (for some reason, the Germans do not keep them in the public domain). And perhaps in Vienna.
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 8 July 2020 13: 45 New
        +8
        It is possible in Berlin. Berliner Börsen Zeitung for July 7, 1943 - 39 euros. They will send to the house. Moreover - the original.
        1. wehr
          8 July 2020 13: 56 New
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          Give almost 40 Reichsmarks to a newspaper? No, really.
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 8 July 2020 14: 06 New
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            There are also available resources.
  4. chenia
    chenia 8 July 2020 09: 58 New
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    reached readiness to grapple with Paul Then seriously, having slandered him before


    What was that?
    The author where infa?
    Could Pol Pot slander?
    Yes, this is a cannibal, Before which Hitler is an absolute humanist.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 10 July 2020 11: 12 New
      -5
      You are planted very high quality. Relax. Pol Pot is no worse than Brezhnev, Yeltsin or Nixon. He just had no influence on the world media. Horror stories about Pol Pot are invented by 95%.
      1. chenia
        chenia 10 July 2020 11: 39 New
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        Quote: meandr51
        You are zombified very high quality

        Well, where do we go? You are like, I understood the personal secretary of Ieng Sari.
        Then pass. .
    2. Omskgasmyas
      Omskgasmyas 14 July 2020 13: 02 New
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      This is a version of the west side. The repression of Pol Pot, like the Stalinist repression, is somewhat exaggerated. Twenty times.
  5. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 8 July 2020 09: 59 New
    +3
    What are they, stupid, these, Asian communists? ,, Khmer Rouge ,, who defeated the pro-American Phnom Penh regime and established their power throughout the country ... the Vietnamese armed forces that defeated the United States and South Vietnamese pro-American regime in a fierce war, which used not only military weapons, but also political, Jesuit methods, propaganda reconnaissance and sabotage methods! And what is the result? Bad, anti-communists, started the wrong bad trick, committed a couple of malicious sabotage, and that’s all! They succeeded as they wanted! As in ,, Jumble ,,, where a bad ,, shit, quarreled yard boys! And where were the intelligence services of Vietnam, the Khmer Rouge, at that time? The author probably tried very hard to write this story ... but maybe a little one-sidedly? Maybe you should remember Kozma Prutkov’s warning about one-way flux?
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 8 July 2020 20: 46 New
      +3
      Colleague Nikolaevich, and you completely exclude the provocation? And, after all, according to the logic of things, Pham Van Khan and his henchmen were INTERESTED so that the Vietnamese and Khmers cling to the war. For me it was a complete surprise that an underground army was operating in Vietnam. Of course, I admitted, I was sure that in Vietnam there could be acts of sabotage, perhaps unit attacks, but an underground army?
      They could have arranged a provocation. The anti-Soviet people liked to arrange provocations: the Chinese Eastern Railway, the "letter of the Comintern" and others
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 9 July 2020 00: 20 New
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        Quote: Astra wild
        Colleague Nikolaevich, and you completely exclude the provocation?

        The USA, China, French special services were interested in this ... But to consider the hostilities between the Khmer Rouge and the Vietnamese as a war between the Vietnamese and Cambodian communists is “bullshit”! Just like nonsense, to consider the Khmer Rouge communists ! The Khmer ideology is a mixture of Maoism, Trotskyism and, almost, the Voodoo religion ... (just kidding, of course ...) Yes, at first the Vietnamese helped and trained the Khmer Rouge, but the conflict between them was brewing for a long time ... ( but this is a somewhat different and long story ...) It so happened that the Khmer Rouge fell under the influence of the Chinese (the Chinese did their best!) Vietnam at that time was considered "pro-Soviet", and China was "at war" with the USSR! Conflict with the Vietnamese Reds Khmer started as soon as they felt the power! Here, on the VO page, many "imbued" with the opinion of the Author of the article, but there are also other opinions! For example, this ....:After the Khmer Rouge seized power, the massacre of the Vietnamese living in Cambodia began. Destroyed almost everyone who did not have time to escape. The Vietnamese Communists who dominated the rebel movement before the American bombing were also exterminated.



        The massacre on its territory was not limited to. Almost immediately after the capture of Phnom Penh, Khmer Rouge detachments began raiding Vietnamese territory with the direct and overt purpose of genocide. With terrible cruelty they slaughtered entire villages and towns. Already in May 1975, polpotsev captured the Vietnamese island of Thotya, part of the population was destroyed on the spot, and 515 people were stolen to the territory of Cambodia, where they were subsequently executed.



        While the Khmer Rouge was in power, such raids took place constantly.


        The apotheosis was the massacre in the village of Batyuk in April 1978. Then Polpotsev killed 3157 people. Only two survived.



        Only then did Vietnam finally decide that it was time to end it - quickly and harshly.







        The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th army corps of the Vietnam People’s Army, as well as aviation and the navy, were pulled to the border of Cambodia. Marines were preparing for the landing.



        Naturally, China saw this - and was extremely dissatisfied, to the extent that the PLA forces (People's Liberation Army of China) could appear in Cambodia. Therefore, the Vietnamese at the fastest pace began to prepare a blitzkrieg: one swift blow, so that the Chinese decidedly had nowhere to land.



        The Khmer Rouge also saw all these preparations and deployed almost all of their 23 divisions along the Vietnamese border.


        Polpotov’s divisions were weaker than Vietnamese even in terms of staff numbers: four thousand people against eight thousand. The actual number of fighters was even less due to constant purges: many regiments of the Khmer Rouge were inferior in number to the Vietnamese battalions.



        Here are just half the Potpot were not a weak adversary. Brought up in the spirit of unreasoning fanaticism and contempt for death - their own and the more so a stranger, they had excellent combat experience and quite modern Chinese weapons.



        When the Vietnamese group completed its concentration, on December 20, 1978, the Khmer Rouge divisions launched a strong preemptive strike. At the border fights began to boil.



        Vietnamese troops retreated in places and even left the deployment areas. But the Polpot soldiers did not achieve a strategic goal. On the contrary, part of the Vietnamese divisions launched a counterattack the very next day and began to successfully advance deep into enemy territory.



        The Khmer Rouge frantically snapped. A counterattack on the advancing 303rd division nearly led to the seizure of its command post. The deputy commander of the 10th division was seriously wounded. The advanced detachments of the Vietnamese fell into tactical surroundings, so beloved by the Chinese military school, and suffered heavy losses.



        Vietnamese columns were subjected to air strikes - they were delivered by light T-28 Troyan piston attack aircraft. When they managed to calculate their base, under it, under cover of the MiG-21, the S-130 transporters, previously captured from the Americans as trophies, worked off with bombs. No one else flew anywhere.



        On the morning of January 7, the XNUMXth division of the Vietnamese army launched an offensive, which became the main battle of the campaign. Her task was to take the strategic bridge, cut the front of the Khmer Rouge and open a direct road along the freeway to Phnom Penh. After this, the defense of the Polpot soldiers was supposed to collapse.



        The task was completed only by the third of January after the hardest fights. But the power of the Vietnamese offensive was so impressed by the “nameless brothers” led by Paul Then that on the second of January the Khmer Rouge received orders to leave for the Mekong and to remove the responsible party comrades and the Chinese embassy from Phnom Penh.



        On January XNUMX, Vietnamese troops reached the ferry crossings through the Mekong on the way to Phnom Penh. On the western bank of the river half the soldiers firmly entrenched themselves: a mass of firing points and artillery batteries, and in the depths of the line of defense tanks and armored personnel carriers were waiting for a signal to counter-attack.



        It was then that the Vietnamese came in handy Soviet amphibious tanks PT-76. On the morning of January sixth after artillery preparation, they, along with infantry on boats and American M-113 armored personnel carriers (also floating), crossed a kilometer Mekong under hurricane fire, broke ashore, seized and held bridgeheads.



        The last line of defense of the Polpot soldiers on the way to the capital collapsed.



        Then, on the sixth of January, the Vietnamese marines with massive fire support of the fleet ships landed on the coast near the strategic port of Kampongsaom (Sihanoukville).

        In the early morning of January seventh, the Vietnamese units entered the suburbs of Phnom Penh, meeting only scattered centers of resistance along the way. Pol Pot escaped from the capital by helicopter. By evening, the entire capital of Cambodia was in the hands of the Vietnamese army. On XNUMX January, after heavy fighting, the Vietnamese marines and the ordinary infantrymen who landed next took Kampongsaom.



        After that, the Khmer Rouge army began to disintegrate. On January XNUMX, a new amphibious assault decisively took the port of Kahkong (now Khemarakphuminville) near the border with Thailand. This time, the Vietnamese marines acted much more successfully - they broke through the stubborn resistance of the Polpot soldiers and captured the city by the evening of the same day. The last major center of resistance of the Polpot soldiers fell. (Picabu)
        1. Grits
          Grits 9 July 2020 11: 21 New
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          Your comment turned out to be more interesting and sensible than the article itself
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 9 July 2020 18: 47 New
            +4
            Thank! But this comment owes a lot to Astra wild! The first comment was relatively short, but since some doubt was expressed by Astra wild, I considered it necessary to give a more detailed comment!
        2. Xopek
          Xopek 11 July 2020 18: 06 New
          +1
          Thank! Very interesting. But there is a feeling that the story is about completely different events. In this part, there is no talk of a breakthrough in Vietnam. Is it really so propaganda? the dislocation of wax and the place of hostilities to another province should be moved, it’s beyond.
  6. Tugarin
    Tugarin 8 July 2020 10: 14 New
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    Thank you for the article. It is always useful to look at the world from a different angle.
    1. VIP
      VIP 8 July 2020 13: 26 New
      +2
      Tugarin, these are my thoughts. Plus
  7. sevtrash
    sevtrash 8 July 2020 10: 31 New
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    It is clear that the author created his own special interpretation with a claim to sensationalism, the book and now it is promoting it. The search for truth based on newspaper reports seems strange. It would be better if the author worked out the history of relations between the peoples of Indochina. And the influence of China was not disclosed at all, but it was decisive, from ideological to economic and military support.
  8. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 8 July 2020 10: 42 New
    -1
    That is, it was a great shame.

    There is nothing shameful here. As always, the superiority of people turned out to be more important than the superiority in tanks and aircraft.
    The same thing struck in the real war of Vietnam and the occupation of Kampuchea and in border strikes on Damansky and Sino-Vietnamese.
  9. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 8 July 2020 11: 36 New
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    Superficial article. The role of Maoist China in these events is absolutely not revealed. Mao was gone, and China was still Maoist. As for the battles of the Vietnamese with the Khmer Rouge - at that time, the battles were widely covered in the Soviet press, it is clear that the Singaporean press is closer to the author. If only I would compare sources from different angles, there was such an opportunity. Article minus.
  10. VIP
    VIP 8 July 2020 13: 24 New
    +3
    I read with interest: it seemed like not too long ago, but I had already forgotten it.
    The author had a great idea: to tell about the Vietnam-Cambodian war from a "neutral" point of view, as the author thought, but in nature it turned out to be a textbook.
  11. iouris
    iouris 8 July 2020 15: 11 New
    +5
    Quote: "... changed a lot in the further course of the communist war in Indochina." End of quote.
    The author is an anti-communist. Well, that's okay. But he, speaking as an "e'kpert", at the same time classifies wars according to some incomprehensible (unscientific) criteria. This is the result of the fact that the deep (true) causes of the war are not revealed. The results of the war were not considered. The author limited himself to developing a simple scheme and, on this shaky basis, presented a simplified ideologically colored picture.
    PS Some kind of fashion is being introduced: all wars are called "forgotten", and once "forgotten", it is not important for a "white" person.
    1. wehr
      8 July 2020 16: 10 New
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      Politruk bombing? laughing
  12. Moskovit
    Moskovit 8 July 2020 15: 24 New
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    Some fantastic losses of the Vietnamese and mythical defeats of the Vietnamese army. Why, then, at the end of 1978, Pol Pot was demolished in two weeks?
  13. Cartalon
    Cartalon 8 July 2020 16: 17 New
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    I am waiting for the next article about the capture of Saigon by the Khmer Rouge, the author write ischo. There you can still talk about how the Chinese took Hanoi.
  14. vladcub
    vladcub 8 July 2020 19: 13 New
    +2
    Dmitry, in any case, thanks for the work done: it is always useful to recall the recent past.
    I practically do not know about these events: at that time all this was parallel to me. I was more interested in women.
    I remember more about the Vietnam-Chinese War. I didn’t have a geographical map then, but in a newspaper a map was printed and I tried to track the situation on it
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 8 July 2020 21: 03 New
      +5
      I would be very, very surprised if as a teenager you were violet, what do women have under their clothes?
      At that time, boys? Boys becoming. Become anxiously anxious
  15. Alexander Trebuntsev
    Alexander Trebuntsev 8 July 2020 19: 23 New
    +4
    Strange article. On the History channel, there was a series of programs about these events. The errors of the USSR in the initial attitude to the Khmer Rouge were also examined in detail. And by the way, the Soviet side asked Vietnam to influence the Khmers. Vietnam frankly admitted then that it has no means of influencing the Khmer. And the Khmers themselves unleashed the war.
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 8 July 2020 20: 54 New
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      Colleague Tribuntsev, but I did not look and did not know about it. It will be necessary to search and see something.
      Perhaps you or Viktor Nikolaevich, something AVAILABLE tell me?
  16. vladcub
    vladcub 8 July 2020 19: 25 New
    +6
    Quote: chenia
    reached readiness to grapple with Paul Then seriously, having slandered him before


    What was that?
    The author where infa?
    Could Pol Pot slander?
    Yes, this is a cannibal, Before which Hitler is an absolute humanist.

    Yes, it was a complete scumbag. It seems that last year it was already flickering about Pol Pot and some tried to almost fence it off
  17. Sergey Sfiedu
    Sergey Sfiedu 8 July 2020 19: 56 New
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    Poor Pol Pot, they lied to him! And mountains of human skulls, mass graves, huge prisons, evictions and genocide of city dwellers, eyewitness accounts, this is supposed to be the fabrication of evil Vietnamese!
    By the way, why is Hun Sen and his comrades (according to the author - the whole of East Cambodia) so easily switched to the side of the Vietnamese - supposedly the worst Khmer enemies?
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 10 July 2020 11: 20 New
      +2
      Why not? The Nazis wrote about the same thing about the Red Army or the Americans about the Soviet Army in Afghanistan. The only question is media affiliation. Therefore, no one remembers about half a ton of bombs dropped from the B-52 for every Cambodian ... Why, when is there a wordless Pol Pot?
      1. Sergey Sfiedu
        Sergey Sfiedu 15 July 2020 20: 58 New
        0
        When Pol Pot launched genocide against his own people, the Yankees of Cambodia were no longer bombed. No need to launder one criminal offenses of another. Fascism is fascism, even if it is under the anti-American red banner. The Viet Cong were also not angels, and especially with the South Vietnamese did not stand on ceremony, but were able to unite the country without such bloody experiments.
  18. vladcub
    vladcub 8 July 2020 20: 04 New
    +4
    Of course, it is easier from the outside to make comments and I will also "add my" five kopecks "(I wonder where this expression came from):
    Naturally, the Vietnamese point of view will be biased, but it would be great to compare how events were evaluated in our country and with the assessment of the Singapore newspaper.
    I would also be interested to know: who commanded the Vietnamese troops and who directly developed plans for a counterattack by the Khmers.
    PS. For all the one-sidedness of the Singaporean newspaper, the facts remain facts: 1) at first the Vietnamese pounded and thoroughly the Khmers. 2) in any case, the Vietnamese underestimated the Khmers, and in the war this is fraught. 3) the cameras were lucky to capture Colonel Nguyen. Apparently, it was also an interesting operation, because that colonel did not go in the open field and in full uniform.
    The Vietnamese after the loss of Nguyen could adjust their plans, but did not, and this is their mistake
    1. Yuri Panaev
      Yuri Panaev 9 July 2020 10: 55 New
      +1
      "I will add my" five kopecks "(I wonder where this expression came from .... this is from the gospel -" make a contribution "-lepta-small copper coin (like" five kopecks ")
  19. onibo
    onibo 9 July 2020 02: 49 New
    +7
    Unfortunately, the VO continues to turn yellow. But since this cannot be fixed, the administration can at least sort it out. For example "this" place is not in the History section, but in the Opinions section. And there are many other things like that. Then it will work out fine "And the wolves are fed and the sheep are safe" ..
  20. Yuri Panaev
    Yuri Panaev 9 July 2020 10: 52 New
    +7
    I talked, and for a very long time, with a participant in the "occupation" of Kampuchea in 1978-1979 (an old grandfather, a chemistry teacher from the University of Hanoi, in Russian, without an accent) who served as an urgent at that time. He said something like the following - we had to capture Kampuchea due to the fact that these "hissing like snakes, bloody Khmer dogs slaughtered several villages in Vietnam in 1978, and we would never have left Kampuchea later, but we had to because of pressure ( military and political) on the part of China ... about whether Pol Pot was "slandered" or not, is clearly indicated by the fact that in Cambodia heaps of skulls of victims of the Pol Pot "Marxist" terror are still found - for some reason there is no information about such atrocities by Vietnamese Marxists ...
  21. Whispering in the night
    Whispering in the night 9 July 2020 11: 25 New
    +3
    About "banging" Pol Pot - strong! Author, kill yourself against the wall already!
  22. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 9 July 2020 12: 04 New
    -7
    Quote: Yuri Panaev
    I talked, and for a very long time, with a participant in the "occupation" of Kampuchea in 1978-1979 (an old grandfather, a chemistry teacher from the University of Hanoi, in Russian, without an accent) who served as an urgent at that time. He said something like the following - we had to capture Kampuchea due to the fact that these "hissing like snakes, bloody Khmer dogs slaughtered several villages in Vietnam in 1978, and we would never have left Kampuchea later, but we had to because of pressure ( military and political) on the part of China ... about whether Pol Pot was "slandered" or not, is clearly indicated by the fact that in Cambodia heaps of skulls of victims of the Pol Pot "Marxist" terror are still found - for some reason there is no information about such atrocities by Vietnamese Marxists ...

    1. The occupation beat in the direct sense of the word.
    2. The conflict on the border cannot be exploited and this will justify a full-scale aggression against another state. Thus, we will slide down to the Nazi "incident" in Gleiwitz. And as far as I know, there were problems with the Vietnamese minority on the territory of Kampuchea itself.
    3. The occupiers mainly left for the resistance of the Cambodians, and the pressure of the USSR, China and the USA was not decisive. Which can beat more pressure than genocide from the air of US aviation in Kampuchea.
    4. A thinking person should be very wary that they find "heaps of skulls" only of the Pol Pot terror, and there are no skulls of the victims of Lon Nol, Americans and Vietnamese. US puppet Lon Nol exterminated his fellow citizens no worse than the South Vietnamese regime. Then the US bombed and destroyed the entire country, including the feeding systems for the production of rice, to starve everyone. They collected their hivis in the capital Phnom Penh and supplied them by sea and air. Then died from bombing and hunger, according to the estimates of the Americans themselves, a million or more Cambodians. The vast majority of the rest of the population was saved by the "Pol Pot terrorists" - they burned the forest for food production. When the US left more than a million of their Khivis in Phnom Penh, they were left without supplies and evacuation in the villages saved them from starvation. There was no reason to expect love for these people from their fellow citizens, but still the vast majority of them survived. In the USSR, local assistants to the Nazis were also not very fond of. During the Khmer Rouge rule 1975-79, agriculture was restored and there was no hunger. Then the Vietnamese aggression and resistance to the occupation hit with a million or more victims.
    Of all these two or more million victims, the US and Vietnam have not yet "found" anything. Although hit one of the skulls from the steed. But the skulls of the Pol Pot victims are still found in "heaps".
    1. gsev
      gsev 9 July 2020 13: 03 New
      +4
      Quote: Kostadinov
      Thus, we will slide down to the Nazi "incident" in Gleiwitz.

      Then Hitler's special forces not only carried out a provocation at the radio station, but also attacked Polish units in other places. The mistake of the Polish leadership was the underestimation of Hitler's provocations. The Vietnamese acted quite wisely in response to Pol Pot's provocations. A powerful blow was dealt to both the Pol Pot people and their puppeteer Dan. The Pol Pot people were defeated and left the political arena into oblivion. Deng Xiao Ping, after his troops washed in blood during the aggression in Vietnam, refused to actively support his proteges in Malaya and Thailand. Even in modern China, they do not recall their actions against Vietnam with enthusiasm. For example, the Chinese film "Youth". The Pol Pot people killed all non-Cambodians in their country. They almost completely exterminated the Tyam people. But to justify the destruction of the townspeople of Phnom Penh under the guise of their expulsion or evacuation from the capital. the height of cynicism. Even the Turks are more careful trying to justify themselves for the Armenian genocide.
  23. Kapellan23
    Kapellan23 9 July 2020 15: 30 New
    +3
    This forgotten war, unsuccessful for the Vietnamese, changed a lot in the further course of the communist war in Indochina.

    Fans of Pol Pot before publishing could at least glance at Wikipedia.

    1. wehr
      9 July 2020 17: 07 New
      -5
      It must have been written in Russian Vika under the influence of my book, but if you read the article, nothing concrete is said about this early stage.
      In English Wikita, the invasion of Kampuchea is counted from December 1978.
      Vietnamese Vika writes cunningly - it is the Cambodians who attacked them, but were defeated (referring to the battles described in the article).
      1. snerg7520
        snerg7520 10 July 2020 07: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: wehr
        It must have been written in Russian Vika under the influence of my book, but if you read the article, nothing concrete is said about this early stage.

        The self-conceit of the author, which is higher than Everest, can not be justified even by the fence of grass - soon the whole world will revolve around him and his unrivaled fantasy ...
  24. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 9 July 2020 17: 35 New
    -4
    The Vietnamese quite reasonably acted in response to the Pol Pot provocations. The blow was dealt to the powerful and half-sellers and their puppeteer Dan.

    They earned a very "reasonable" war for themselves (like the USSR went to Afghanistan).
    Polpotovtsy defeated and left the political arena in oblivion.

    Before this, and while the "rout" of the Pol Potots did not go into unbeating, the Vietnamese left Kampuchea. By analogy, we can say that the Red Army was defeated by the Germans (in 1941) and the Bolsheviks went into non-beating (1991), having missed some incidents between 1941 and 1991.
    Deng Xiao Ping, after his troops washed in blood during the aggression in Vietnam, refused to actively support his proteges in Malaya and Thailand. Even in modern China, they do not recall their actions against Vietnam with enthusiasm. For example, the Chinese film "Youth".

    Who and how fought with blood in this fratricidal war has different estimates, but it is certain that the Vietnamese had to leave Kampuchea. It is true that China is not thrilled, but I think even less thrilled about this war in Vietnam. No one is enthusiastic about the Sino-Soviet conflict, but someone in the USA can beat.
    Polpotovtsy destroyed all non-Kampuchets in their country. They almost completely exterminated the people of the Cham.

    The same was said and is being said about Chechens, Tatars, Germans in the Second World War. Some minorities in Vietnam, including the Chinese, also had a difficult fate.
    But to justify the destruction of Phnom Penh citizens under the guise of their expulsion or evacuation from the capital. the top of cynicism. Even the Turks are more careful trying to make excuses for the Armenian Genocide.

    Cynicism when someone destroys your people, before your eyes (carpet bombings and beat in the vicinity of Phnom Penh) to help him in this. And about the evacuation of Phnom Penh in 1975, it was not the Turks who wrote, but witnesses of this event from the Scandinavian countries.
    1. poppy admiral
      poppy admiral 9 July 2020 22: 36 New
      +1
      With all due respect, but do not justify the terrible regime of Pol Pot, in the massacre of people he is the champion of the 20th century! And about the carpet bombing of the Vietnamese it is strong.
    2. gsev
      gsev 11 July 2020 06: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: Kostadinov
      And about the evacuation of Phnom Penh in 1975, it was not the Turks who wrote, but witnesses of this event from the Scandinavian countries.

      In my opinion, the Nazis exterminated their Jews much more humane than the half-pot soldiers of their intelligentsia in Phnom Penh. It took Hitler 9 years from 1933 to 1942 to fool the Germans before starting the mass extermination of Jews. Yes, and it turns out, the symbol of Nazi boxing Schmeling helped save two Jews, then the manufacturer Schindler saved his workers. And in a week, the Polpot soldiers expelled from 1 to 2 million residents of the capital in more severe conditions than they were in the Nazi camps. And the Angkarites were trained to kill people with knives and hoes. The SS men had to invent killing gas and used in killings from auxiliary Lithuanian police to the thugs RON Kaminsky and Voskoboinik to protect the vulnerable souls of the German SS men. In addition, both Pol Pot and Yeng Sari were Chinese and spent a long time serving Maoist China. That is, they were an instrument of enslaving the Vietnamese and Cambodians by the Chinese. The Cambodians were simply destroyed, and the Vietnamese were exhausted by sabotage war by attacking border villages. The Cambodian soldiers killed in these battles were as profitable for Deng Xiao Ping as the killed Vietnamese. And Pol Pot already on September 25, 1977, gave the order to slaughter the Vietnamese from the age of 5 in the village of Tanlap.
      .
      Quote: Kostadinov
      And about the evacuation of Phnom Penh in 1975, it was not the Turks who wrote, but witnesses of this event from the Scandinavian countries.


      Until 1945, some Scandinavians like Sven Gedin wrote about Hitler only a good and even tearful obituary wrote about the clang of Soviet tanks brought to suicide in Berlin ..
      .
      Quote: Kostadinov
      It’s true that China is not thrilled, but I think even less thrilled about this war in Vietnam

      Vietnam is not the first time, and apparently not the last time to defend its freedom from the northern alien. Le Duan did not submit to the Chinese mafia then, destroyed the Chinese vassal on its southern border, and stopped aggression. Then the Vietnamese fought with dignity for the modern independence of Laos, Thailand, and Cambodia. Sihanouk was never a pawn of either Pol Pot or China. He politically uprooted the remnants of the Khmer Rouge again becoming king, at the same time making Cambodia independent of all neighbors. But without the victory of the Vietnamese soldiers, Sihanouk would have died in obscurity as a henchman of Pol Pot. Le Duan and he was largely freed from captivity by Pol Pot and regained royal regalia ..
    3. gsev
      gsev 11 July 2020 06: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Kostadinov
      Who and how fought blood in this fratricidal war is different estimates,

      All the Vietnamese I know are proud of their wars with China and the ability of their people to preserve their freedom in the face of a larger people. The Chinese do not talk about these topics. Even when asked directly about the latest Sino-Burmese war, a familiar Chinese woman withdrew from her assessments and said that she knew nothing about it. Although for the first time I met such a young Russian speaker with almost no accent and a good command of electronics and technical translation. In the Chinese film "Youth", the war is shown to cripple the souls of its participants. While the ordinary heroes of the film fulfill the will of the state losing their lives, health and soul, their bosses are rebuilding China for themselves. In addition, this is said subtly, because there is a state policy in the film industry in the PRC.
  25. w70
    w70 9 July 2020 21: 43 New
    +3
    Khmer wildest regime, killed one third of the population. Stalin nervously smokes in the toilet
  26. Vivan
    Vivan 10 July 2020 06: 26 New
    0
    A documentary (lasting 94 minutes, with subtitles in English), shown on the Central Television of Cambodia and Vietnam. In this film, the Prime Minister of Cambodia, Hun Senn, described in detail how he and his closest associates fled to Vietnam to ask for help, how the Vietnamese interrogated, trained and created the United National Rescue Front of Kampuchea:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yfBz5qoc7w&feature=youtu.be
  27. Vivan
    Vivan 10 July 2020 08: 24 New
    0
    40 years later, in June 2017, the Prime Minister of Cambodia, Hun Senn, visited the community, where he spent the first days on the land of Vietnam in June 1977. He addressed the audience in Vietnamese (he speaks Vietnamese quite well):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftN-q3Z1qDU
  28. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 10 July 2020 11: 42 New
    -1
    Quote: poppy admiral
    With all due respect, but do not justify the terrible regime of Pol Pot, in the massacre of people he is the champion of the 20th century! And about the carpet bombing of the Vietnamese it is strong.

    1. The championship on the massacre of people did not beat and can not be arranged. And Pol Pot is a very small figure for the villain of the 20th century.
    2. And the carpet of the bombing was carried out by the US aviation at the request of the military junta Lon Nol. In just a few months in 1973, she dropped 250 thousand tons of bombs on a small and backward country. They destroyed irrigation facilities, roads and other infrastructure and all operating enterprises. Rice production and everything else has dropped several times. Most of the Khmer Rouge are children (12-18 years old) who lost their parents and their homes during these American bombings and half-way saved them from starvation. And the future "victims" of the Pol Pot residents at this time observed the bombings in the vicinity of Phnom Penh, carried out by their order from cafes and restaurants.
    1. gsev
      gsev 11 July 2020 06: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: Kostadinov
      Championship massacre of people did not beat and can not arrange. And Pol Pot is a very small figure for the villain of the 20th century.

      Everything is relative. In terms of the number of people killed, divided by the number of years in power and the general population of the country, Pol Pot and Yeng Sari will probably never have any more competitors. History must first study just such phenomena.
  29. In b
    In b 10 July 2020 12: 09 New
    -1
    The Khmer Rouge organization was created by the United States to fight Vietnam, just like the Taliban to fight the USSR. And then, as usual, they broke off the leash of the Americans.
    Therefore, there is nothing surprising in this - they are not communists, and red is just a color!
    Author study better material!
  30. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 10 July 2020 13: 08 New
    0
    Quote: In In
    The Khmer Rouge organization was created by the United States to fight Vietnam, just like the Taliban to fight the USSR. And then, as usual, they broke off the leash of the Americans.
    Therefore, there is nothing surprising in this - they are not communists, and red is just a color!
    Author study better material!

    What Vietnamese fought the Khmer Rouge in Kampuchea until 1975, where the power of the Lon Nol regime beat in power?
  31. Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 10 July 2020 18: 30 New
    -2
    About Pol Pot
    From the reign of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, a primitive anti-communist fake has long been made to turn the working masses away from communism. But Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge were not communists in the full sense of the word, there was no working class in Cambodia, the country was agrarian, and it was an attempt to build a just society in its peasant sense.

    The Cambodian villagers harbored a long-standing hatred of the city and the townspeople, because they were mired in parasitism and all subsequent Khmer actions after the seizure of power - it is a peasant anarchist reaction to the parasitic classes of the city.

    Two or three million people destroyed by Paul Then, this is also a lie. In fact, this number includes everyone who died of starvation, disease, and political executions between 1975-79. between wars, but the blame for their death is blamed on the Khmer Rouge government, which is not true.

    In fact, the vast majority of those who died in the 1970s were victims of war, bombing, famine and disease. The US intended to destroy and punish the country. Agriculture was in ruins. The Indochina war of the United States destroyed 600 Cambodians and left millions more homeless and starving, who left for the city. About two million people - a third of the country's population - fled from rural areas to Phnom Penh, where they faced the threat of hunger.

    Of course, there were many victims during the Khmer Rouge, but the data are greatly exaggerated. According to realistic estimates, from 75 to 000 people were executed under Paul Pot, mostly citizens belonging to the ruling and parasitic classes and national minorities.

    In April 1975, when the Khmer Rouge detachments took over the capital of Phnom Penh, the masses faced extremely difficult situations. There was a danger that the US could launch a bombing of Phnom Penh. In addition, there were huge refugee camps around Phnom Penh where food was only available for a few days.

    Khmer Rouge immediately evacuated Phnom Penh. This evacuation today is portrayed as a brutal "death march." In fact, there were many deaths in the cities, hospitals were overcrowded, and the Pol Pot government introduced a state of emergency in the country.It moved more than 2 million people to the countryside to cultivate rice, build new irrigation systems, restore agriculture and roads. For some reason, the bourgeois media do not take this objective situation into account.

    Undoubtedly, it was a difficult process, there were not enough tools, many of the displaced people knew little about cultivating new lands. There were many deaths from starvation and disease. But the goals of the government were correct: the overthrow of feudalism, the development of a new independent economy, and the expulsion from Cambodia of all the forces of foreign domination.
    1. onibo
      onibo 11 July 2020 00: 17 New
      +1
      "It moved over 2 million people gathered to rural areas to cultivate rice, build new irrigation systems, and rehabilitate agriculture and roads." (c) .. You now need to be moved from the couch to "the countryside, build a road, cultivate !! -) Figure" the government's goals were correct "(c) .. Uh-huh. A week after the" move ", what will you sing?
      1. Alexander Greene
        Alexander Greene 11 July 2020 12: 12 New
        0
        Quote: onibo
        ... You now need to be moved from the couch to "the countryside, build roads, cultivate !!

        Firstly, on the couch they were dying of hunger, there was not enough food for everyone.
        Secondly, he who does not work does not eat.
  32. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 13 July 2020 15: 04 New
    -2
    Quote: gsev
    Quote: Kostadinov
    Championship massacre of people did not beat and can not arrange. And Pol Pot is a very small figure for the villain of the 20th century.

    Everything is relative. In terms of the number of people killed, divided by the number of years in power and the general population of the country, Pol Pot and Yeng Sari will probably never have any more competitors. History must first study just such phenomena.

    That comparison cannot be made, but if you have such a desire.
    1. The most massive extermination of unarmed people per unit is the bombing of the United States - Hiroshima, Tokyo, Dresden, Korea, Vietnam, Kampuchea, Laos.
    2. In Kampuchea Pol Pot itself in third place after the US / Lon Nol and the Vietnamese occupation. It’s good to study how the two superpowers ate together to screen the crime of their satellites by satanizing the leader of the national resistance.
  33. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 13 July 2020 15: 26 New
    -2
    Quote: onibo
    You now need to be moved from the couch to "the countryside, build roads, cultivate !! -) Fig." The goals of the government were correct "(c) .. Uh-huh. A week after the" move ", what will you sing about?

    In the first in Phnom Penh, and so beat more than a million internal refugees who returned to their homes.
    In the second, the United States stopped supplying Phnom Pen and there was practically nothing to beat there (food, electricity and water supply, etc.). Residents of the city sought salvation in the countryside and in the summer they were helped by the Khmer Rouge. They supplied the city until a new crop was harvested and the city economy was not restored, they could not.
  34. the same doctor
    the same doctor 29 July 2020 09: 43 New
    0
    In general, the Vietnamese had their own Finnish war.
  35. roofing hedgehog
    roofing hedgehog 17 August 2020 16: 13 New
    0
    lies from beginning to end, I had to work in 88-89 together with the Vietnamese ... it was such a time that the Vietnamese worked in the USSR, they received a special slave ... so they fought in Kampuchea, cleaned the country from Pol Pot ... and the task fulfilled completely .. scary things about this Pol Pot were told .. Half Pot yengsari .. this is a terrible curse they have ..
  36. meandr51
    meandr51 3 September 2020 18: 02 New
    0
    Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
    When Pol Pot launched genocide against his own people, the Yankees did not bomb Cambodia.

    Does this change anything in the ratio of losses from the Americans and from the civil war? For obvious reasons, there is no reliable statistics on losses, but there are ones on dropped bombs. 2,75 million tons according to Wiki. This can kill everyone in the country.
  37. obratov
    obratov 15 September 2020 00: 06 New
    0
    Real Chinese propaganda?