Tehran: The US must not be allowed to represent Iran as a threat to world security

The United States should not represent Iran as a global threat. This must not be allowed to the Americans.

According to the IRNA agency, such a statement was made by the Deputy Head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Islamic Republic of Iran Abbas Arakchi.

He believes that any view of Iran as a threat to international security is beneficial to the United States:

Any action on the international scene that exposes Iran as a threat is a game on the field of the United States.

The deputy minister believes that recently, Washington is increasingly trying to raise the Iranian topic in the UN Security Council again, using several ways to do this. First of all, he is trying to restore international sanctions against Tehran as part of a nuclear deal. Another way is to connect the IAEA. For example, recently this organization demanded that experts be checked into the territory of some Iranian nuclear facilities in order to verify Israeli information on violations there. In addition, as Aracci claims, weapons the embargo against Iran, which they intend to lift this fall, the Americans proposed to extend.

One thing is clear: US-Iranian relations will not be established soon.

Comments

[Civil]

So what has Iran done that it is dragged in the West?

[Finches]

The threat to world security is the United States! And you have to be blind, deaf and be a complete idiot to not see this! and do not understand!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Finches

The threat to world security is the United States!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Finches

! And you have to be blind, deaf and also be a complete idiot, so as not to see this! and do not understand!

[Finches]

... or be Anglo-Saxon!

[Lipchanin]

NAGLOSax

[Krasnodar]

Or to know that in 1956 the USA stopped And the Anglo-French bombing of Egypt, that in 1947 they did not smell in Greece (the Britons fit in against the Communists, whom Stalin exchanged for Poland), in 1964 the Americans limited themselves to supporting the coup in Brazil in words, in Somalia pokotsali themselves during a humanitarian mission, no one has yet bombed Venezuela, etc. )))

[Finches]

What kind of bullshit? In 1945, they bombed with nuclear bombs in Japan, in 1949 they killed NATO, in 1950 - 53 fought in Korea ... Starting in 1953, Cuba was not given rest, and a little later Vietnamese children were waiting for napalm hell from civilized uncles from across the ocean. ..

[Krasnodar]

And in Greece, Egypt, Brazil, Somalia and Venezuela did? I’ll make out the picture.
Of all the things you said, written, I agree only about Vietnam - they got there absolutely in vain and behaved like bestial. If it’s about napalm, it’s more likely that the Japanese children were burned out in Tokyo more than in two nuclear bombings - although what the Japanese did to the Chinese and Koreans was much tougher than the nuclear and napalm bombings.
Korea - Kim Il Sung began the war, if it weren’t for the Chinese - enchanting it would have lost, as a result, destroyed the entire peninsula, remaining exactly in the positions from which it began.
Cuba - Batisto was a typical Latin American dictator, but people are still fleeing from Castro and Co. to the States. So not everything is so simple.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Krasnodar

but from Castro and Co. people still flee to the States.

The point is ... The most important thing there is to touch the American coast. But the US Coast Guard is trying to prevent this, it drives it away with sticks.

[Krasnodar]

It also does the right thing. They now have enough African Americans)))

[Finches]

if the picture, then ok! And there are people who flee from the USA ... so everything is relative!

[Krasnodar]

People are different. Value for money is the best in the States. Maybe in Canada - for the sake of social programs, but there are few of them.

[Finches]

Well, where we do not!

[Krasnodar]

I agree, there are enough problems everywhere

[seregatara1969]

Tehran is the capital of evil on earth! Be afraid of him!

[Finches]

All over the world they know that the devil’s den is in Washington, but his lawyer will be found everywhere ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: Civil

So what has Iran done that it is dragged in the West?

Americans dipped deep into a puddle ...

[Victor_B]

So what has Iran done that it is dragged in the West?

The strong is always powerless to blame:
To that in History we hear the darkness of examples
But we do not write stories;
And here about how in Fables speak.
____
It’s your fault that I want to eat!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Victor_B

It’s your fault that I want to eat!

Paraphrasing.
"You have a lot of oil"

[Victor_B]

"You have a lot of oil"

[Lipchanin]

Yes, even if they don’t find it, they’ll ruin everything around

[Incvizitor]

So also they don’t steal from others, that’s malicious

[Incvizitor]

So also they don’t steal from others, that’s malicious

[Kronos]

Iran is an Islamic state with claims to expansion

[Lopatov]

Quote: Kronos

with claims to expansion

??
Where is the "expansion"?

[Kronos]

In neighboring countries, the spread of influence in Syria, Libya, Yemen

[Lopatov]

Quote: Kronos

In neighboring countries, the spread of influence in Syria, Libya, Yemen

That is, by "expansion" you mean self-defense?
Should Iran not protect itself, but is obliged to dutifully turn its neck under the blows of those who declared themselves to be its enemies?

[Lipchanin]

Yes, he did nothing to the west. Everything comes from the submission of the hostages.

[Brturin]

Quote: Lipchanin

Everything comes from the submission of the hostages

so the next submission was at the end of June when the states submitted a resolution with the UN Security Council on extending the arms embargo ... US envoy Kelly Kraft talks about considering it in mid-July, German envoy Heusgen - what later ... the question is not in Tehran how China will vote , Russia (The application of the relevant provisions of Security Council resolution 2231 after October 18, 2020 was never intended, and there are no legal or other reasons to review this - Lavrov), and the French, with the Germans, the British, and so for whom ... .

[svp67]

Quote: Civil

So what has Iran done that it is dragged in the West?

Not the West, but the United States ... and the rest are "six" ... And what did you do? Yes, a lot of things ... At least this

[Gennady Fomkin]

Potmuchto they have more oil and gas than camels

[Max Lebedev]

Iran wanted to shame the United States?

[Revolver]

Quote: Max Lebedev

Iran wanted

Want is not harmful

[Cyril G ...]

The United States should not represent Iran as a global threat.

There is no doubt about it. After all, the main threat to world security is of course the United States.

[HMR333]

Why is the name tehran written and not Tehran?

[Observer2014]

Quote: HMR333

Why is the name tehran written and not Tehran?

Patamushto-maramushto Summer. All the rules. Go on vacation.

[Zeev zeev]

Well, yes, an aggressive Islamist state run by religious fanatics, where millions of crowds gather in the streets, shouting "death to America, death to Israel", which seeks to get nuclear weapons and intercontinental missiles, is not a threat to peace. It is only a threat to America and Israel. Well, maybe even the Sunni monarchies of the Gulf, supplying oil and gas to half the world. And perhaps a threat to the rest of its neighbors, with whom there are or may arise disputes about oil fields or sea borders.

[rruvim]

There are no (in power) religious fanatics! And Iran is not aggressive Islamic state. An ordinary secular Republic with Shiite "troubles", allegedly Ayatollah. But Persians, not Arabs. Not prone to madness ...

[Iris]

SECOND REPUBLIC ?! Is it with the morals police?
The thesis about "non-aggression" is even more fun: as part of the military formations of Iran there is the IRGC - an analogue of the Waffen SS, only with all branches of the military.

[Revolver]

Quote: Iris

CSIR - an analogue of the Waffen SS

Yes, despite the fact that the SS had no naval and air forces. If Himmler were alive, he would be envious. But in general, even the ideology is similar.

[rruvim]

And "Yasam" and "Yamam"? And what about Sayret Egoz? It is quite a national formation, like the SS "Galicia".

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: rruvim

And "Yasam" and "Yamam"? And what about Sayret Egoz?

the first two are police units. last military special forces. where did you see the ss, or would the league throw a word?

[Krasnodar]

The first analogue of OMON
The second - conditionally, SOBR and Alpha FSB (something average).
Egoz is already just a Golani battalion - it used to specialize in anti-guerrilla warfare - initiated ambushes, etc.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: rruvim

There are no (in power) religious fanatics! And Iran is not aggressive Islamic state. An ordinary secular Republic with Shiite "troubles", allegedly Ayatollah. But Persians, not Arabs. Not prone to madness ...

During the Iran-Iraq war, youngsters from Bassidzh were sent to minefields to break through the enemy’s defenses with their feet. Generally not prone to craziness ((.

[rruvim]

This is a "notion" of the Western media. All sorts of flagships, children going to minefields ... Everything was invented by the Iraqi "Al-Saura" in order to hide the failures at the front, and the world media, sympathetic to Iraq, including the Soviet ones, picked up and replicated all this.

[Krasnodar]

Talk about this with the Persians - they will tell you more than As-Saura. Everything was much tougher.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: rruvim

This is a "notion" of the Western media. All sorts of flagellants, children going to minefields ... Everything was invented by the Iraqi "Al-Saura" in order to hide the failures at the front,

[rruvim]

Kibbutz children ...

[borberd]

Zarnitsa in the USSR. Only unlike Iran, the children did not fight.

[rruvim]

Now, when the IAEA arrives in Dimona, then the Israelis will have the right to demand the same thing with regard to Iran.

[Revolver]

Quote: rruvim

That's when the IAEA arrives in Dimona

Israel did NOT sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, and therefore the IAEA in Dimon has nothing to do. And Iran signed back in the days of the Shah, and therefore is obliged to obey the rules of the IAEA, including inspections.

[rruvim]

What the Shah signed after the Islamic Revolution has no legitimacy. Accession to the 1963 treaty was only a gesture of "goodwill" by the new Iranian government.

[borberd]

If Iran had not signed the NPT, it would not have been able to educate its students in nuclear laboratories around the world. And therefore I could not develop nuclear weapons. But Iran signed, trained students, and received nuclear technology. Therefore there is nothing to complain about.

[Iris]

Israel did not sign the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, Iran signed. That is why the IAEA is obliged to inspect Iranian facilities, and Israeli has no right.

[rruvim]

Okay, you are following the "letter of the law". Although I believe that the new government in Iran just "of good will" agreed with the Shah's signature. But the IAEA charter has the right to carry out inspections in countries that have not joined the agreement. For example in North Korea. She signed only the NPT non-proliferation agreement.

[Iris]

Okay, you are following the "letter of the law".

This is not me, this is the Israelis follow))
Of course, of my own free will. But then you really have to comply - or withdraw the signature, like the DPRK, and do yourself what you want. And Iran is a state that seems to be nuclear-free, and at the same time has constant problems with the IAEA, which suspects it of violating the treaty. Not a candle to God, not a damn poker.

[Revolver]

The threat to world security is militant Islamism. And whether it is Sunni (ISIS, al-Qaeda, Muslim brothers) or Shiite (Iran, Hezbollah), it does not matter to everyone except the Islamists themselves.

[rruvim]

Militant Islamism is no worse than militant Judaism. Write: УThe thunderstorm of world security is militant Judaism. And whether it is Hasidic (Lubavchisky or Gursky) or Zionist (Bnei Brit), it makes no difference to everyone except the Judaists themselves.

[Revolver]

Quote: rruvim

militant judaism. Is it Hasidic

And when was the Hasidim the last time they cut their heads to the camera with an unfaithful one, or did they plant bombs on planes? Do not remind?

[rruvim]

I will answer about the Hasidim. And Irgun and Lehi?

[Revolver]

Quote: rruvim

I will answer about the Hasidim. And Irgun and Lehi?

First answer about the Hasidim.

[Iris]

I will answer about the Hasidim. And Irgun and Lehi?

Irgun in the attacks was lit up a little. More concerned (as far as I know) with refugees from Europe who arrived by sea. And LEKHI - yes, the terrorists. In its purest form, the people’s liberation movement: organized attacks against officials of the credentials of the authorities - as actions of retaliation for anti-Jewish actions and politics. I am not aware of cases where members of any of the Jewish underground groups would enter a crowded cafe, or train, or go to the market, and arrange an explosion there to kill civilians. But for Islamic terrorists today is the norm. Moreover, in Israel this is pure business - terrorist attacks are organized for a fee.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: rruvim

Militant Islamism is no worse than militant Judaism. Write: УThe thunderstorm of world security is militant Judaism. And whether it is Hasidic (Lubavchisky or Gursky) or Zionist (Bnei Brit), it makes no difference to everyone except the Judaists themselves.

Yes, the Hasidim are sponsoring the Jewish terrorist organizations such as Hezbollah and Hamas)).

[rruvim]

Why are you sticking to this Hezbollah and Hamas? A third of their members are snitches for shekels, a third of the employees of "Shabak" and "Amana", the rest of the kids, who, having matured, join the first two categories.

[Krasnodar]

Where do you get information about their composition? Especially Hezbollah

[rruvim]

The results show. After the operation "cast lead", where they put up more or less some kind of resistance, they were blown away ... Maybe they are fighting somewhere in Syria, but there is no activation in Lebanon.

[Krasnodar]

Hezbollah and Cast Lead ...

[rruvim]

Okay, confused it with Hamas. I am writing "in a hurry" ...

[Krasnodar]

Ok Hamas - they were not blown away, during the “Indestructible Rock” they did much more damage to Israel than under Cast Lead, and even twitched later
Hezbollah - faded after 2006, since 2011 has been waging a war for Assad, so they have no time for Jews.

[Iris]

Yes, the states and there is no need to try to imagine something: Iran is doing this very well.

[rruvim]

About Hasidim, I have only "killing" Christian babies. But about חיל האוויר - solid terrorism! In sovereign states.

[Revolver]

Quote: rruvim

חיל האוויר - solid terrorism!

And how did the Israeli Air Force offend you?

And killing Christian babies is old.

[rruvim]

I personally do not. I am in Russia. And to list their terrorist acts in neighboring countries ... You can list and list ... For example: a raid on a nuclear center in Iraq in June 1981. Why did the Iraqis not guess the same thing to do with Dimon?

[Revolver]

Quote: rruvim

list their terrorist acts in neighboring countries ... For example: a raid on a nuclear center in Iraq in June 1981.

The whole world, and first of all, funny as it may seem, Iran, should thank Israel for the fact that Saddam lost the opportunity to make a bomb. Because if he had a bomb, he would have flown first to Tehran. Saddam was not shy about using chemical warfare and massive rocket attacks on cities against the Persians, but the Persians did not remain in debt.
And besides, Iraq was technically and is at war with Israel, so the bombing was not a terrorist attack, but a completely legitimate military action.

Quote: rruvim

Why did the Iraqis not guess the same thing to do with Dimon?

Because the arms are short

[rruvim]

Here the arms are short. The Arabs are always short. Probably knocking on each other in "Shabak", who is more terrorist. And about the Iran-Iraq war, we still need to dig "where the legs grow from" ...

[Krasnodar]

From the Hasidim. Gursky)).

[rruvim]

Iran is the only State in the Middle East that can oppose Israel. The Arabs cannot understand this, because everything (we are "poor" Arabs) is satisfied with the current state of affairs. Iran has always won. Let's not remember the pindulas that the Iranians heaped on the British colonialists. Let's remember dualism: the Islamic revolution did away with the pro-American Shah, we invaded Afghanistan. The Iranians began to help the Pashtun Islamists in Afghanistan, incl. through the supply of weapons to the CIA (dualism) Iran-Contra. To distract the Iranian mujahideen from the west of Afghanistan, we "provoked" the Iraqi-Iranian war, supplying Saddam with weapons for the very "tonsils", and France helped too. As a result, the Iraqis practically lost in eight years, and at the same time we left Afghanistan. Iran won.

[Revolver]

Quote: rruvim

Iran has always won

Yes? And in August 1941 too? Read about the Soviet-British occupation of Iran. But the then shah even twitched to resist, but they quickly explained to him who he was and where his place was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Soviet_invasion_of_Iran

[rruvim]

I am well aware of this situation. TEHRAN-43 has not been canceled. Only it was temporary and paid. What on our part, what on the British. Although ordinary people were on the side of the Reich. It was just not up to resistance when there was a promise. They promised independence after the war, and Iran got it. True, like a puppet of the West. But Kobe was not up to it then. He needed Iran only as a Lend-Lease supply chain.

[Revolver]

Quote: rruvim

Kobe was not up to it then

It seems to me that you could not be familiar with Comrade. Stalin on pre-revolutionary underground work. And they probably didn’t drink with the broodershaft with him. Because such familiarity on your part in his address, at least, is inappropriate.

[rruvim]

And this twenty-year operation - זעם האל, how many people were killed. And they have already become family men, "done" with their past ...

[Revolver]

Quote: rruvim

And this twenty-year operation - זעם האל, how many people were killed. And they have already become family men, "done" with their past ...

Eichmann, too, "ended" with the past and was quite a peaceful Argentinean and family man. And the Jews terrorist stole him for this "past", terroristically tried him, and terroristically hanged him. Here uzhos then!

[rruvim]

Of course horror !!! And even his "revelations" were published to the MOSSAD ... He is from "your" ...

[Krasnodar]

Yes not, of yours - Indo-Europeans

[Iris]

The Arabs cannot understand this, because everything (we are "poor" Arabs) is satisfied with the current state of affairs.

The Arabs began to understand an even more subtle thing - that Israel and there is no need to confront. Of course, this is understood in different ways. Jordan and Egypt, who had received from the soul at one time, understood earlier. Oil monarchies are beginning to understand now - thanks to the same Iran. Lebanon would not mind establishing, finally, normal relations, but it cannot: the civil war in this unfortunate country has been going on almost without interruption from the day it was founded.
Well, apparently, it’s not given to anyone to understand this .. Syria, Qatar. Although, it would seem - which is even easier: you have oil, the Jews do not. They have modern technology - from aquaculture to space - you don’t. You need each other.
This is because the ophthalmologist must treat people, and not control the state.

[rruvim]

But these are Arabs. Moreover, there is no Arab nationalism. The idea of ​​pan-Arabia and the Ba'ath was blown away. They do not threaten Israel, as in the 68th, 73rd and 82nd years. All! Israel can sleep peacefully. But Israel is not enough! He needs to come up with a new (old) enemy, like the new (old) Synagogue in Prague. Now Iran and Hezbollah. There is no longer the hated Egypt. Syria is under the control of the Lubavitcher Rebbe from Russia. Jordan has long been an appendage of Israel. The Saudis in the oil war with the Lubavitcher Rebbe. Iraq and Afghanistan under occupation. But you still need to find the enemy! Iran of course!

[Iris]

How long do you think we (Russia) would "look for the enemy" if some country in the world, through the lips of its supreme leader and his generals, announced twice a week that their MAIN task was to wipe Russia off the world map?
Well, in a spiritual sense, of course.

[Revolver]

Dedicated to the forum trained from siAnistoff.

Duma about Old Man Shapiro

Now we are in Canada, we are rich in trochs,
but I remember fled from these songs.
We don’t need chambers, we don’t need mansions,
just to get away from the Jewish pogroms.
In order not to flinch in the evenings -
suddenly drunk Abram will burst into the hut? ..
We live in Toronto, we will raise children,
but often in nightmares I see Chaim.
How long will I live - I will never forget:
a scar on my back from the Talmud.
We worked hard, raised sheep,
Emil Gorovets ate everything.
'Drive pennies for moonshine!' -
Ben Gurion burst into the huts ...
Can't describe me pale my lyre
how dad Shapiro himself jumped up.
And next came his adjutant Fishkin
with a grenade in his hands and a Talmud under his arm.
Behind him, fifty pogromists drunk
bellowed the song 'Aidysh mom'.
As snow curled down from the Cossack feather beds,
The pot-bellied rabbi laughed harshly.
Grabbing by the hair, beat against the wall
the officer of our Nechiporenko.
Beat on the ribs, on the neck, on the nerves,
and it smelled of shag and something kosher ...
So that the diths remember, reading my verses,
how they beat us with a whip Shmuli and Hirschi.
And even though we live and live in Canada,
nevertheless, in my nightmares I see Chaim.
He pinched my Oksana at the tyn.
Oh my mats!
Oh my Ukraine!

http://forum.russianamerica.com/f/showthread.php?t=67259&page=17

[rruvim]

Not a tenant of these places
not a dead man, but some kind of intermediary,
completely alone
you shout about yourself at last:
didn’t recognize anyone
overlooked, forgot, deceived,
thank god winter. So I haven’t returned anywhere.

Thank God, a stranger.
I'm not blaming anyone here.
Do not know anything.
I'm going, in a hurry, overtaking.
How easy it is for me now
because I didn’t leave anyone.
Thank God that I remained on the earth without a fatherland.

(Joseph Brodsky)

[rruvim]

I watched two seasons of the TV series "Fouda" (Jewish production). Israeli intelligence services are no different from Palestinian terrorists. The terrorists themselves!

[Revolver]

Quote: rruvim

I watched two seasons of "Fouda"

So you take information from the TV series? Well, well, you are still purely for educational purposes "Slave Izaura" and "The rich also cry" revise.

[rruvim]

But the Jews were filming. And a good show by the way. How is it different with you? If you see sworn enemies in the Iranian people. If they broadcast from the minarets that modern Israel should be destroyed, this does not mean that the Knesset and the neighborhood near Haifa should be destroyed, maybe they mean spiritual Israel, that is, the world of Western values ​​and idols. I think the Iranians give a damn about whether you will live in Tel or Jerusalem or will go back to Galut ...

[Revolver]

Yes, I see, you know the geography of Israel better than me. Well, yes, where did I go, I haven’t been there, from my suburb NYC, if I went anywhere on vacation, it’s only in America or the Caribbean.

[rruvim]

From your Americas you know better ...

[Krasnodar]

Quote: rruvim

But the Jews were filming. And a good show by the way. How is it different with you? If you see sworn enemies in the Iranian people. If they broadcast from the minarets that modern Israel should be destroyed, this does not mean that the Knesset and the neighborhood near Haifa should be destroyed, maybe they mean spiritual Israel, that is, the world of Western values ​​and idols. I think the Iranians give a damn about whether you will live in Tel or Jerusalem or will go back to Galut ...

Yes, of course, they broadcast to themselves, arm and help Hezbollah and Hamas with money, they build high bases in Syria - this is all for the sake of destroying the so-called "Heavenly Jerusalem", "Spiritual City"

[rruvim]

Understood nothing ... Enough hysterics. Your Ministry of Defense and the Government are simply working "ahead of the curve" just in case, that's why they bomb everything that "moves" wrong. The whole nation is at war. Constantly. I visit Israel and see this psychosis. But on the other hand, there is another part of the Israelis who wanted to spit on "combat ability", because if ... housing is prepared, etc. in Europe or America. And the threat to Israel is not in the mythical Iran, but in the procreation of Palestinians in the autonomies, which sooner or later will simply "crush" the Jews in numbers. The only question is time ...

[Krasnodar]

Speak correctly - Comrade Rruvim! The worst weapon of the fighters for the freedom of Judah from the Jews is the womb of a Palestinian woman! (Y. Arafat ak. Com. Towels). Of course, they will be crushed by the numbers - they will go out into the open field and come on waving fists
I’ve lived in Israel for 25 years - they’re buying housing abroad not for “if what,” but for investment)). The hysteria is not among the Jews, but among lovers of all obscurantism about every bombardment carried out by the Israelis, although how this prevents the average Russian is not clear. They didn’t understand about me - I explain:
If the Persians just talk about the destruction of Israel, why are they sponsoring Hezbollah and Hamas, why are they building bases in Syria, sending reconnaissance drones to the Golan Heights, etc.?

[rruvim]

And ask the Persians for real: what do they want? I don’t know about Hamas, this is a perennial question for the offended Palestinians. And Hezbollah is first aid to needy Muslims, the distribution of this aid, the solution of legal and other issues in the general "common fund" and only then the AKM, as a last resort. For the Persians, dominance in the Arab world is important but not important. I think that the Iranians want security for themselves no less than Israel wants for itself.

[Krasnodar]

What kind of Persians? Who do I work with? So that the ayatollahs would allow them to live humanly, and not help Syria and Palestine in the presence of enormous economic problems within the country. As for protecting yourself from the Arabs - you are right, they do not want a second massacre such as the Iran-Iraq war.
Hezbollah is primarily a Lebanese Shiite military organization sponsored by Iran. And then Zakiyat in his community.

[rruvim]

Oh well! Why then in 1982 to expel the PLO from Lebanon to Tunisia? Replaced Yasser, who was quite sociable, with Hezbollah?

[Krasnodar]

Because he, thanks to the Syrians, settled in well there, escaping from Jordanian tanks, releasing terrorist attacks and constant shelling of Israel from Lebanon. He was not sociable then, and Hezbollah is another group of a militarily weak country, earning dividends for itself in the fight against the Zionist enemy. After her, someone else will come.

[rruvim]

The Syrians did not particularly "cover" it, otherwise they would have blocked the "breath" of the phalangists. That. that he was flooded from Jordan, it is still unclear who "muddy" muddied him. But, as a result of OOP, there is an alternative - yes! And the Persians took advantage of this. But not with weapons, but with influence. Otherwise, the occupying Israeli troops would have stopped it in the bud. I think that someone from the intelligence service and the IDF "warmed" their hands on this when they allowed Islamists of "a different suit" to take over the PLO's place.

[Krasnodar]

Israel did not allow the phalangists to block the breath; Arafat and his brigades were received in Syria, then they were relocated to Lebanon, where they started a civil war. The Persians occupied their niche there in the year 84-85 - the Israelis then bombed the IRGC, which trained Hezbollah. And who in Jordan muddied the muddle - even the Palestinians do not hide)))

[Revolver]

Quote: rruvim

And ask the Persians for real: what do they want?

Persians, besides the tops pushed by Islam, no one asks. And if one of the Persians says without demand what they need, then the range of answers is very severe, from flogging with rods, including public, to imprisonment, and to the gallows inclusive, or any combination of the above. Yes, it happens there that they hold a term in prison, and are regularly taken out to public flogging until they lose consciousness, until they collect the number of blows prescribed by the court, and hang up at the end of the term. Such is the humane regime.

[rruvim]

Doctors !!! Iran has a developed judicial system. There is a symbiosis of Sharia with secular justice. Moreover, Sharia law is used only as a last resort, mainly in family law. Moreover, Sharia law (in Iranian transcription) is more humane than secular. It may result in public censure (without any flogging) without a major fine.

[Revolver]

It’s only, if someone according to Sharia is declared an apostate or an enemy of Allah, then this is a gallows without options. And if at the same time they find some more misconduct for which they are supposed to be sentenced, then the prison cannot be served until then, and then the gallows. They hang them there even for drinking alcohol. For the first time censure, for the second flogging and / or term, and for the third tower.

[Zeev zeev]

INTERFAX.RU - Iranian authorities have made a change to one of the articles of the criminal code, according to which adultery is punishable by death by stoning, the Lebanese newspaper Daily Star reported on Thursday.

"If it is not possible to enact a sentence (stoning - IF), then the sentencing judge may impose a different type of death penalty upon receipt of final confirmation from a higher court," the law of Iran's new Islamic Criminal Code, published earlier on this week. "
A very "humane" system.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Iris

SECOND REPUBLIC ?! Is it with the morals police?
The thesis about "non-aggression" is even more fun: as part of the military formations of Iran there is the IRGC - an analogue of the Waffen SS, only with all branches of the military.

Well yes , There are a bunch of Mujahideen

[Gennady Fomkin]

It's funny to watch the couch battles of those who had little contact with real Muslims, and even more so with Muslim Persians. The reaction is categorically different, from "but I do not care at all, Allah will then judge everyone according to their affairs" to "soak all the mattresses." The latter, I must say minuscule, and even then after the question: "Are you capable of such a thing?" - they answer that only if they are called to the service, proactively - hardly. That is, there are generally no radical moods in my inner circle. Now one more thing. Features of religion, Islam in one way or another is associated with sacrifice, - Kurban Ait (Bayram), this and that ... In general, another feature of the East is that while they talk to you, you are considered a Human. Yes, they can speak with you in a raised voice, they can give you a blow in the face, and in general they can mark you to the hospital, BUT, they treat you like a person. If they stop talking to you, you are a victim, a ram ... Iran has learned, including from Russia, calmness and self-control ... The Americans, out of thoughtlessness, struck something for which the East does not forgive - Dignity. It is not the first time for Persians to survive , "East is a delicate thing" to fatten is not habitual, though loving this business. They wanted to spit on threats, remember Ahmadinejad, he constantly pulled the tiger by the mustache, and what is the "tiger"? The paper turned out to be ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Iris

SECOND REPUBLIC ?! Is it with the morals police?
The thesis about "non-aggression" is even more fun: as part of the military formations of Iran there is the IRGC - an analogue of the Waffen SS, only with all branches of the military.

Mossad, then an analogue of the Gestapo? In Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Qatar, heads are still being cut with hands and stones are being beaten.

[borberd]

Mossad is intelligence, such as the FSB, MI6, the CIA ... Mossad has no troops of its own, only subordinate troops. But Ksir is a state in a state. With his personal army, business and politics. So yes, Ksir is an analogue of SS.

[rruvim]

Yes! The IRGC is similar to the SS in structure, much like the Mossad on the Gestapo. And the doctrine of tank warfare by Moshe Peled in the desert was written off from Erwin Rommel’s tactics. Which of these?

[borberd]

Xer certainly looks like an SS. But the Mossad is intelligence, unlike the Gestapo, which is the police. Smoke materiel, not that you smoke there ...

[rruvim]

oShutka humor ... They made me laugh with their "stamp" about smoke.

[rruvim]

And what is Kidon doing in the Mossad? Conducting reconnaissance on its own territory? Or is the Gaza Strip no longer Israeli territory?

[Iris]

And what about the Gaza Strip?
I did not compare Iranian intelligence with SS troops, but the Corps of Guardians of the Islamic Revolution, and here the coincidence is almost complete - in terms of tasks, powers, state status and hierarchy of submission. Up to the analogy in the name: there are troops of the Guard detachments, here - the Corps of Guardians of the Revolution.

[rruvim]

I wrote: a bad example is contagious. If SS-Vec Braun invented a rocket, this does not mean that others cannot launch it. With all the so-called democracy, the State of Israel has its own SS of settlers who occupy Arab lands. And they wanted to spit on Benya and the UN.

[rruvim]

When the "phalangists" slaughtered the camps of Palestinian refugees, women and children, Sabra and Shatila, the IDF guys were SS guards (by analogy) when the Nazi Ukrainians slaughtered Poles in Volyn, surrounded by SS troops.

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: rruvim

When the "phalangists" slaughtered the camps of Palestinian refugees, women and children,

With the same success, one can accuse the USSR of aiding the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And what? At that time, the USSR was an ally of the United States and, together with it, fought against a common enemy.

[Iris]

the State of Israel has its own SS of settlers who occupy Arab lands.

Once again: SS is the SECURITY Squads of the PARTY (National Socialist, German Worker). What PARTY in Israel are the settlers guarding ?! Or in general at least some personal organization funded by this party?
Democracy in Israel is not "so-called", but real; it is, according to local residents, even too much. But there are no Arab lands at all. There are Jewish lands occupied by Palestinian Arabs.

[Gennady Fomkin]

As regards Mochilov, those who are objectionable abroad, Mossad took from the Müller department all the best, learn the materiel

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

As regards Mochilov, those who are objectionable abroad, Mossad took from the Müller department all the best, learn the materiel

Compare Mossad better with the external intelligence of the OGPU / NKVD, especially since both intelligence agencies were created by people of the same nationality. And Müller’s department was noted only in cruelty, in the total mass of his employees were just stupid sadists. What the same Mossad later proved when, after the Second World War, Muller’s losers began to create a mughabarat in Syria in the image of the Gestapo, they lost to the Israeli intelligence in the net and continue to lose until now.

[Revolver]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Mossad took from the department of Muller

Then rather Schellenberg. 6th Division - Political Intelligence. And Müller - 4th Division - Gestapo = GEheime STAts POlizei - secret state police.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Kronos

Iran is an Islamic state with claims to expansion

What an expansion, their streets are cleaner than yours. And even women drive cars that are not in "enlightened" Saudi Arabia.

[Gennady Fomkin]

The Israeli Ministry of Energy reported that on Wednesday night, October 2, the price of gasoline with an octane rating of 95 in Israel will increase by 11 agorot and amount to 6,18 shekels per liter. (114 rubles for our money.) The reason for the rise in price was a jump in oil prices amid a blow to Saudi oil production facilities, mitigated by the depreciation of the dollar against the shekel. What a terrible price for gasoline. This is the average salary you can buy some unfortunate 1500 liters approximately. Poverty. And in Russia you can buy as much as 900 liters. Envy the Jews. http://newsru.co.il/

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Poverty. And in Russia you can buy as much as 900 liters. Envy the Jews.

And in the village of Gadyukino you can buy a big house for kilobax, and in Tel Aviv a small apartment for a lemon bucks. Well it turns out in the village of Gadyukino a thousand times better to live than in Tel Aviv.

[Incvizitor]

As for me there is nothing worse when the West begins to praise, so right away it’s normal people who begin to despise you, and when only abominable Westerners scold you, this is only a plus, they are essentially no more rotten vegetables.

[kulinar]

Quote: Finches

Well, where we do not!

So I'm looking for where you are not ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

If we analyze all the accusations against the so-called "rogue countries" of possessing nuclear technology and weapons, which are invariably followed by various sanctions, terrorist acts, killings of scientists and direct military aggression, then all these actions invariably have one state - Israel. An inexperienced person in geopolitics may have the opinion that only Israel is concerned about nuclear safety, the prevention of nuclear conflicts and technological disasters. However, upon closer examination of this problem, the opposite picture suddenly emerges. It is Israel, unlike the vast majority of countries, that is the most malicious violator of any international agreement on nuclear weapons. Any actions of states to create and distribute nuclear weapons and technologies are regulated and limited by the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, adopted and approved by resolution 2373 (XXII) to UN General Assembly June 12, 1968. The agreement was signed by 190 countries, with the exception of Israel, South Africa, Pakistan and India. It turns out that the right to control the operation of the Treaty in relation to other countries “explicitly” was appropriated to itself by one country that did not even sign this treaty, which really put itself in the position of a rogue state. At the same time, it is Israel that possesses a huge nuclear arsenal, reactors and technologies for the production of nuclear weapons, and the authorities of this country will never officially recognize the obvious, once again confirming their real status as a rogue country among other civilized countries.

[Gennady Fomkin]

BBC as a classic illustration of the expression "On the thief and the hat is on." On Netanyahu, two hats are burning at once.

Material a year ago, but it will explain a lot in the impact of Israel and the USA on Iran, in the form of Netanyahu, in the division of energy reserves and the consumer market of the solvent EU

[andreykolesov123]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

BBC as a classic illustration of the expression "On the thief and the hat is on." On Netanyahu, two hats are burning at once.

Do not be offended, you have succeeded weakly. I will continue your thought, and Adon Krasnodar will continue.
The big and small Israeli bourgeoisie froze in horror - they both burned their caps. Even the possessed Bibi became agitated, because now everyone can see what kind of lubavitch ears are hidden behind his curly head. All progressive humanity calls on Bibi, and with it all God-chosen infidels to repent and curtail his aggressive activities in the illegal Zionist education, as well as his own. If they do not, then all the contempt and anger of the best warriors of Allah will pour out on them.

[muham]

For everyone sighing about the UN: "The UN Commission to Investigate the Crimes Committed in Syria presented a report on the period from November 2019 to June 2020. As the document states, both supporters and opponents of the regime are guilty of war crimes. In total, the commission investigated 52 episodes. 47 cases refer to the actions of the regime of Bashar al-Assad and Russia supporting him. "
We are waiting for Mikhanov yes Rruvimov with accusations and speeches.

[Revolver]

Quote: muham

We are waiting for Mikhanov yes Rruvimov with accusations and speeches.

I remember there was still such a Shiite Muslim with the nickname "Vatnik". Was he blown away, or was he banned for being too outspoken anti-Semitism?

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: andreykolesov123

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

As regards Mochilov, those who are objectionable abroad, Mossad took from the Müller department all the best, learn the materiel

Compare Mossad better with the external intelligence of the OGPU / NKVD, especially since both intelligence agencies were created by people of the same nationality. And Müller’s department was noted only in cruelty, in the total mass of his employees were just stupid sadists. What the same Mossad later proved when, after the Second World War, Muller’s losers began to create a mughabarat in Syria in the image of the Gestapo, they lost to the Israeli intelligence in the net and continue to lose until now.

Bursting with the Eugene patriot? You are sadists, Victims of the "Holocaust" ..... Following the logic of a realist. Israel should be bombed. Tell us how Otto Skorzeny taught you there? with representatives of the same "Odesa", who are still not only dealing with the issues of "pensions" for the surviving fascists, but also protecting them in courts, providing them with shelter, documents, funds, and most importantly - opportunities.