The Kremlin does not know anything about the "accession" of Donbass to Russia

Dmitry Peskov, who holds the post of spokesman for Vladimir Putin, has not heard anything about the possible imminent entry of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics into the Russian Federation. At the same time, our country continues to provide humanitarian assistance to the regions of Donbass beyond the control of Ukraine.

According to the information agency TASS, the Kremlin’s press service said this today.

Such was the reaction of the authorities of the Russian Federation to the words of the head of the Union of Volunteers of Donbass, Alexander Borodai, that de facto the DPR and LPR can already be called Russian regions.

According to Peskov, recently in the situation in the Donbass no positive changes have occurred. And Moscow does not take any steps aimed at joining the Republics to the Russian Federation:

As for some steps, de facto steps towards Russia, I don’t know anything about this, I don’t have any information on this.

He also noted that part of the residents of certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions received Russian passports and are now citizens of Russia. According to him, this is done for humanitarian reasons, since people were rejected by their own country.

Comments

[alone]

As the saying goes, the bride has a wedding at the house, and the groom knows nothing ..

[Svarog]

What actually was to be expected. I always said that Putin has no intention of returning Russian lands ..

[Thunderbringer]

Can you read?

As for some steps, de facto steps towards Russia, then me about it nothing is known, any information on this subject I do not have.

[Svarog]

Quote: Thunderbringer

this is not known, I do not have any information on this subject.

And you obviously have so share .. and then 6 years already the people are in the dark .. When already "we do not hand over" will turn into reality?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Svarog

And you obviously have so much to share ..

He says that it’s not Putin who says it, but Peskov. VVP has repeatedly said that sometimes Peskov blurs such a thing that throw a grenade at the carcasses. Peskov only deals with the press, and therefore he only says what he is allowed to say and to know. And you have already drawn conclusions about Putin and the politics of our entire state further in the Donbass.
Well, if tomorrow grandmother blurs at the entrance that the Kremlin decided to join Cuba, you will begin to say that Putin’s kind of cunning plan is again?
Or should all the plans be voiced and merged in the media according to yours? So what Putin did not please you here?

[Roman123567]

nothing about me it is not knownany information on this subject I don't have

The question is, what for feed a dog who does not monitor what is happening in the yard ..

[ilya63]

what do you want? so that he says that in a year or two we’ll join?

[snucerist]

I would very much like for Mr. Peskov to say something definite at least once.
For example, how much will be twice two.
For his eternal "I don’t know ... I don’t know ... I didn’t report ... I don’t have information ... I’m not familiar with it ... I cannot comment ... I don’t have information ... I haven’t received such information.” .. "they no longer cause laughter, but a desire to ask a question: does he even know the size of his salary? And what is he being paid money for?

[halpat]

Quote: snucerist

I would very much like for Mr. Peskov to say something definite at least once.
For example, how much will be twice two.

He replied that he did not have information on this issue. :))
He will not say anything until the command was given.
Putin spoke out a couple of years ago. I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the quote, but the point is: Sometimes Peskov says ... I hear and think ... that he sculpts something utterly out there ...
From those Sands fell silent. He knows his place.

[U-58]

Will not say, do not wait.
1. If you are against, then the answer is diplomatically evasive so as not to look bad.
2. If you are a secret, then the answer is diplomatically evasive so as not to reveal plans.
3. If Russian tanks occupied Donetsk and continue to move to the border, then the diplomatic response is evasive ....
And so on with all the options

[AU Ivanov.]

And Peskov was supposed to declare to the whole world: they say the reunion will happen on July 20 at exactly 18.00? So what? Well, how small the children are.

[Roman123567]

And Peskov was supposed to declare to the whole world: they say the reunion will happen on July 20 at exactly 18.00? So what? Well, how small the children are.

As small children, these are those who believe that the people are paying him their salary just in order to hear from him “I don’t know” .. not everyone can know without Peskov ..

[AU Ivanov.]

The decision to reunite Crimea with Russia was announced immediately after the referendum. But not in advance. Do not know why?

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Hey, who returned the Crimea? You? I am not for Putin, but I am against lies.

[Civil]

Quote: lonely

I have not heard anything about the possible imminent entry of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics into the Russian Federation

Not even hunting is a comment.

[Mountain shooter]

Russian passports have received a little. IMHO. Less than 10% of the population. That will be 50-50, there will be another calico ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Russian passports have received a little. IMHO. Less than 10% of the population. That will be 50-50, there will be another calico ...

Was Crimea connected with passports?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Was Crimea connected with passports?

Crimea in any way! This is generally a happy case when ALL the population wanted to escape from Ukraine, but it turned out together with the peninsula. About Donbass can I say that? Not.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

when ALL the population wanted to escape from Ukraine

And actually since the collapse of the USSR. The mood to join Russia was constantly there.
It was not in vain that the SBU tried to create a "counterbalance" in the form of the Crimean Tatars.

[hydrox]

But no one has knocked the Tatars into the snout, so they will wait for the Autonomous Tatar Republic on the land of Kherson (which they have never kept (and will not keep them for the most part in New Russia)), but their mouths will continue to be angry in the Crimea, although They don’t want to put up with Russians - this is a stalemate, so let them slowly filter ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Crimea in any way! This is generally a happy case when ALL the population wanted to escape from Ukraine, but it turned out together with the peninsula. About Donbass can I say that? Not.

Enough to carry nonsense, would like to pick up, would have long been picked up. Strictly speaking, this applies to all of Ukraine.

[Lopatov]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Enough to carry nonsense, would like to pick up, would have long been picked up.

I am ashamed of you, honestly. The fact that you cannot lift a barbell of 500 kg is just a shame.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Spade

I am ashamed of you, honestly. The fact that you cannot lift a barbell of 500 kg is just a shame.

I don’t see the connection. Or do you want to say that such an operation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2014-15 was not possible?

[Lopatov]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

I don’t see the connection.

Are you used to demanding the impossible only from others?
Come on, get ready and go to the shell. I will explain to you how to lift. In theory.

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Or do you want to say that such an operation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2014-15 was not possible?

Bingo!
And not only the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but also Russia as a whole. And not only in 2014-2015, but also now.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Spade

And not only the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but also Russia as a whole. And not only in 2014-2015, but also now.

I don’t know what time it is, but in 2014-15, this was possible together with the militias, and Putin had permission from the State Duma, and the people wanted and expected this. Only the money in accounts in Western banks, it was a pity for our oligarchs, they could freeze. Simply put.

[Lopatov]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

but in 2014-15, together with the militias, it was possible

You probably live in another country? And you don't see how hard Russia is "pulling" Crimea. In fact, in all areas there are sanctions and restrictions. Including those who hit the wallets of Russians. Regular. Not oligarchs.

So this rally is not necessary. "To put it simply," go to the 500 kg bar and lift. And it's a shame that you still haven't lifted, because "you would like to take this weight, you would have taken it long ago"

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Strictly speaking, this applies to all of Ukraine.

Well, definitely not from Russia.
I recall that all these bloody events in Ukraine began precisely with a cautious attempt by Russia to enter the neighbor more deeply into its sphere of interests. What the Americans reacted hysterically.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Spade

I recall that all these bloody events in Ukraine began precisely with a cautious attempt by Russia to enter the neighbor more deeply into its sphere of interests.

No, my golden, strictly speaking, this whole orgy began with the Belovezhsky conspiracy between Yeltsin, Shushkevich and Kravchuk. And then it quietly developed, the Russian Federation was "slept through" and eventually resulted in this bloody disgrace.

Quote: Spade

with what great difficulty Russia "pulls" Crimea

Please explain in more detail how hard Russia is pulling Crimea, if since 2014 our officials have been shouting that Crimea is almost "self-sustaining".

Quote: Spade

In virtually all areas, sanctions and restrictions.

Compare these "sanctions" with the sanctions in relation to the USSR, there really were sanctions, but they did not stop anyone.

Quote: Spade

Including those who hit the wallets of the Russians.

In my wallet, other things hit much harder. Should I list them? Or save time? And yet, the transition in the dispute to individuals (from which country I am, etc.) speaks only about the weakness of your position.

[Lopatov]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

No, my golden one, strictly speaking, this whole bacchanalia began with the Bialowieza conspiracy between Yeltsin, Shushkevich and Kravchuk.

Are you talking about this crime of the Communists?
I agree, it requires a thorough investigation.
However, to your shameful reluctance to raise a barbell of 500 kg has nothing to do.

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Please explain in more detail how hard Russia is pulling Crimea, if since 2014 our officials have been shouting that Crimea is almost "self-sustaining".

You also don't know how to read in Russian? Like black and white "In fact, in all spheres of sanctions and restrictions. Including those that hit the wallets of Russians."
What's so incomprehensible?

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Compare these "sanctions" with the sanctions in relation to the USSR, there really were sanctions, but they did not stop anyone.

That is, you want Russia to repeat the fate of the USSR, I understand correctly?

Quote: aleksejkabanets

In my wallet, other things hit much harder. Should I list them? Or save time?

List! Required. And then you will try to prove that these are "other things" that have absolutely nothing to do with external pressure.
And you can’t do it.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Spade

No, my golden one, strictly speaking, this whole bacchanalia began with the Bialowieza conspiracy between Yeltsin, Shushkevich and Kravchuk.
Are you talking about this crime of the Communists?
I agree, it requires a thorough investigation.
However, to your shameful reluctance to raise a barbell of 500 kg has nothing to do.

Tell me, do you consider Vlasov the same as communists? Maybe enough of these dirty manipulations to produce? Is there a big difference between Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kravchuk,
Shushkevich and Vlasov? And how far has Putin gone from them?

Quote: Spade

Compare these "sanctions" with the sanctions in relation to the USSR, there really were sanctions, but they did not stop anyone.
That is, you want Russia to repeat the fate of the USSR, I understand correctly?

Not properly. Do you think that the USSR collapsed because of the sanctions? No, the USSR collapsed thanks to the betrayal of individuals who today own the main assets of the state (let's call a spade a spade). And our "guarantor of the constitution" acts as a defender of their interests.

Quote: Spade

In my wallet, other things hit much harder. Should I list them? Or save time?
List! Required. And then you will try to prove that these are "other things" that have absolutely nothing to do with external pressure.
And you can’t do it.

Do I need to talk about hidden tax technologies? About excise taxes on gasoline? For cigarettes, alcohol? Look at least on a receipt from some "Magnet" or other supermarket, how much is a purchase, and how much VAT. Are all sanctions to blame? Are you seriously?

Quote: Spade

Please explain in more detail how hard Russia is pulling Crimea, if since 2014 our officials have been shouting that Crimea is almost "self-sustaining".
You also don't know how to read in Russian? Like black and white "In fact, in all spheres of sanctions and restrictions. Including those that hit the wallets of Russians."
What's so incomprehensible?

I don’t know what to write here. Have you not yet understood that sanctions today are just a method of competition, nothing more. If there weren’t Crimea, or the Asia Minor Boeing, they would have found something else. Look at the US sanctions applied to China. What have they attached? Islands poured? All this is just an excuse when you understand this already.

[72jora72]

You probably live in another country? And you don't see how hard Russia is "pulling" Crimea

Maybe then the friends of Sterkhovod cease to rob the country?

[Lopatov]

I agree. Tell them to stop.

[Cristall]

Quote: Spade

I recall that all these bloody events in Ukraine began precisely with a cautious attempt by Russia to enter the neighbor more deeply into its sphere of interests.

a cautious attempt was apparently in buying up the second half of Ukraine. Since the first half was successfully purchased. Russian capital owned a lot in Ukraine.
In fact, no one interfered with acting in that vein. Neither Americans nor even Maidan.
But it was necessary to invent greatness and Crimea. Although it was easier with giblets to redeem the remains, not paying attention. And not arranging ter. redistribution.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Cristall

a cautious attempt apparently was in buying up

A cautious attempt was to integrate. In the common economic space.

Quote: Cristall

In fact, no one interfered with acting in that vein. Neither Americans nor even Maidan.

Lying.
"Now steps are being taken to re-Sovietize the region. It will be called differently - the customs union, the Eurasian Union and so on. But let's not be deceived. We know the purpose of this and are trying to find effective ways to slow or prevent it.pt. Ms. Clinton, the secretary of state, said very frankly.
And you will not be able to edit the story.

Quote: Cristall

Although it was easier to redeem the remains with giblets

Why do you think the Americans and the Europeans did not "buy out these remnants", having incomparably greater financial capabilities? Why did you decide to lead Ukraine through a lot of blood? After all, without all these "Maidans" it would be much easier. Not even money, just financial guarantees of a part of the Ukrainian oligarchy that could suffer from the "association"?

[Cristall]

Quote: Spade

A cautious attempt was to integrate. In the common economic space.

There was a choice of a vehicle or an EU. And there were very strong disagreements. And everything was 50/50. There was no cautious attempt. For the pressure on Ukraine was enormous.
Remind me what "trade wars" were fought for this? Ours did not even begin to introduce counter-actions. Although "Onischenki" very persistently found everything in sweets, cheese, milk, etc.
Politically and economically, Moscow exerted very strong pressure on Kiev to implement the CU. For now, without Ukraine, you can only learn about the TS from the Internet.
And so there would be a market of 200/300 million. Moscow does not know how to unite. They know how to manage. To subordinate. But do not combine. Buy / subjugate. It’s bad when without soft power.

Quote: Spade

Mrs. Clinton, Secretary of State, said very frankly.

So what? You never know which of the politicians said. Only matters are set off.
And the secretaries of state have already changed a lot. And they said too much.
In their economic zone, no one counteracted. Each year, Ukraine more and more passed into the ownership of Russian capital.

Quote: Spade

Why do you think the Americans and the Europeans did not "buy out these remnants", having incomparably greater financial capabilities?

Very strange but no. Compare the shares of Russian capital in the Ukrainian market and any other. Even after the Maidan, it was the Russian Federation that was the main investor in Ukraine.
The first Maidan acted very correctly. Waited, and then bought even more assets.
What prevented the second to complete the purchase?
Oh yes ... greatness ... post-imperial syndrome. Maidan is generally a profitable thing for the Russian Federation. After them, dependence on the Russian Federation increases. But if not for Krymnash.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Cristall

Remind me what "trade wars" were fought for this? Ours did not even begin to introduce counter-actions. Although "Onischenki" very persistently found everything in sweets, cheese, milk, etc.
Politically and economically, Moscow exerted very strong pressure on Kiev

Does today's relationship between Russia and Belarus not remind you?

[passerby]

I do not understand you. You speak of Ukraine being crushed, demanding a choice. Crushed by both Russia and the EU, and in the end you made a choice in favor of the EU. And having made this choice, did you seriously believe that Russia would continue to invest in Ukraine? Are you serious? Why is it for Russia, why is it for the Russians? Link to the first Maidan generally smiled. Have you ever thought that the second Maidan was the result of the toothless reaction of Moscow to the first Maidan? About post-imperial syndrome is better not necessary. Of course, I understand that it was much more profitable for Ukrainians to integrate with the EU, while receiving investments and a market for industrial products from Russia at the same time, but it doesn’t happen, patience ends at some stage and it turns out what happened. The partnership is that the partners understand and take into account each other’s interests, Ukraine did not take into account the interests of Russia, moreover, it undermined these interests, while continuing to have bonuses from Russia in the form of investments, access to the market and cheap raw materials, receiving “moskalyak” in response on Gilyaku ”, ticking watches before the Black Sea Fleet’s withdrawal from Sevastopol and other funny showers from Ukrainians. Why should Russia continue to endure this and invest in the Ukrainian economy? Don't you think that would be very strange?

[passerby]

Quote: Cristall

Although it was easier with giblets to redeem the remains, not paying attention. And not arranging ter. redistribution.

Explain why Russia had to increase funding for Ukrainian industry? For what? What was the benefit for Russia?

[rruvim]

Do you personally pull? For the whole of Russia? This Crimea by and large pulls Russia. Forward! And they are sanctions for those who are used to living at the expense of the West. They do not concern an ordinary Russian person: neither a worker, nor a peasant, nor an engineer. Only some merchants ...

[Alexey from Perm]

just in 2014 this could be done without war, unlike now

[strelokmira]

Bingo!
And not only the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but also Russia as a whole. And not only in 2014-2015, but also now.

If 5 in number, the army of the world can not stop the regional conflict .... In general, there are no censorship words

[113262a]

About Donbass after 6 years of killing people, you can now say anything! Then the miners didn’t take YOU from the mines, then they didn’t get all the passports (by the way, the LDNR passport is obligatory!). Excuse me by the training manual-trifling matter! After receiving 50% of the passports, what will they say there? Siberia and the Far East-large-throw all-bread-salt in the taiga?

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Lucky case

This is a normal case.

[halpat]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Was Crimea connected with passports?

Crimea in any way! This is generally a happy case when ALL the population wanted to escape from Ukraine, but it turned out together with the peninsula. About Donbass can I say that? Not.

Other things played a significant role.
1. The presence of a large Russian military contingent.
2. The location itself (a peninsula with a narrow isthmus). Defending and controlling is easier.
3. Cowboys could not be allowed into the Crimea. This would change the whole military situation in the Black Sea and in the adjacent regions and states.

Donbass does not correspond to any of the above items.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Less than 10% of the population. That will be 50-50, there will be another calico ...

It will not.
Here in the same South Ossetia, 95% of Russian passport holders

[210ox]

Even in Crimea, many blue papyri preserved. Not just in case, but for trips to relatives at a farm near Zhmerinka or for a trip abroad.

[Lopatov]

But they are still as long as I remember. were for the most part the most "separatists" ... It was not for nothing that "friendship trains" were driven to them

[113262a]

And who YOU ​​(not even YOU!) Said that FRIENDSHIP trains did not come to Lugansk? So in RODAKOVO, with our own hands, they pushed us back into the cars drenched in green and weeping ONE-CHILDREN! The scene is Rodakovsky REP.

[Kronos]

How many Russian passports are there in Transnistria and Abkhazia?

[Cristall]

Quote: Kronos

How many Russian passports are there in Transnistria and Abkhazia?

260 thousand Moldovan
100 thousand Ukrainian
170 thousand Russian.
passports.
But this is considering that many have 3 or more passports (plus Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian))
The embassies of the Russian Federation and Ukraine require registration in Chisinau.
Out of once 700 thousand population of Transdniestria is now less than 300 thousand ..
Not a good trend ..

[Kronos]

In the DPR, the exact same situation

[Cristall]

Quote: Kronos

In the DPR, the exact same situation

the trick is that statistics always indicate data that can be shared with others.
For example, citizens of Ukraine in the Crimea. They are citizens of two countries at the same time.
(the procedure for withdrawing from a Russian or Ukrainian citizenship is difficult to observe at all, almost unrealistic)
So are the citizens in the Ordlo.
In PMR, the coolest thing is. They with Moldova there can hold up to 6/7 passports ...

[Stas1973]

In general, there are no restrictions. Whoever wants it has already received it. My relative in Lugansk received a passport after 3 months from the date of application. And passports issue ud half a year. During this time, everyone could already get it if the residents needed it.

[mark_rod]

Who would have doubted .... My hut is on the edge, I don't know and I don't want to know anything! But what about the past slogan "Russians don't abandon their own"? Obviously it was something like from the movie "Brother 2" - "We, the Guz people, do not deceive our own!"

[Kronos]

Already 6 years have passed, and you just noticed?

[Mordvin 3]

de facto steps towards Russia, I don’t know anything about it, I do not have any information on this.

The caravan again drives the blizzard.

[Thunderbringer]

Self-critical. I praise you.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Thunderbringer

Self-critical. I praise you.

Peskov, or what? Well, praise further.

[paco.soto]

A neutral opinion of a foreigner: this is an absolutely good diplomatic response in the structure of the present moment. Peskov is now in his place deserves respect given the difficult situation of international according to 'the identification of Putin as president'

[Thunderbringer]

Painful she is only in the opposition trench.
It’s impossible to breathe even nearby.

[paco.soto]

With a smile: I thank you for your commentary, but for some reason it is incomprehensibly related to coprophilia.

[Tagan]

Quote: Svarog

What actually was to be expected. I always said that Putin has no intention of returning Russian lands ..

In your interests, it’s better not to remember what you always said. )))

[Tagan]

Quote: mark_rod

Who would have doubted .... My hut is on the edge, I don't know and I don't want to know anything! But what about the past slogan "Russians don't abandon their own"? Obviously it was something like from the movie "Brother 2" - "We, the Guz people, do not deceive our own!"

Well, actually, if we abandoned our people, there would be neither the DNR nor the LC. Another thing is that the average person does not have an understanding of when the denouement comes. And Peskov is not the best assistant in this)))
(You are apparently far from the border)

[Lopatov]

Quote: Tagan

Another thing is that the average person does not have an understanding of when the denouement comes.

Never. As in Transnistria, Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
Unless the collapse of Ukraine, something can change. Or Ukraine’s refusal to claim for NATO membership.
So the fact that the return of Crimea was pulled is already a great achievement.

[codetalker]

You put three completely different situations into one. Abkhazia and South Ossetia are gradually integrating into the Russian Federation. Transnistria - protection against the absorption of Moldova by Romania. And LDNR is the only legal subjects of government in the territory of the former Ukraine, which have to restore the constitutional system in it. There are no time limits in any of the situations described.

[Lopatov]

Quote: codetalker

You put three completely different situations into one.

Absolutely not.
Transnistria, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, as well as Donbass, do not allow Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine to join NATO.

[codetalker]

Such a goal exists, but in the general hierarchy of goals it is not in the first place. Abkhazia and South Ossetia, for example, already do not prevent Georgia from joining NATO.

[Lopatov]

Quote: codetalker

Abkhazia and South Ossetia, for example, already do not prevent Georgia from joining NATO.

??
You are confusing something.
Not a single Georgian politician will abandon these territories; this is actually a political death.

[codetalker]

No, he will not refuse. But even if he refuses, joining NATO will not help much.

[Cristall]

Quote: Spade

Or Ukraine’s refusal to claim for NATO membership.

after our Crimea, there were no brakes for absolute agreement among Ukrainian citizens to join NATO.
Previously, more than half were negative, and there were few chances besides cooperation.
The buffering of the territory was clearly supported. Even with a bias that this is a zone of economic political and cultural interests of the Russian Federation. And all understood and agreed.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Cristall

after our Crimea, there were no brakes for absolute agreement among Ukrainian citizens to join NATO.

It's good that the "citizens of Ukraine" will not be able to accept anyone into NATO.

Quote: Cristall

And all understood and agreed.

Again a lie.
Everyone perfectly remembers the difficulties of the Black Sea Fleet's stay in Crimea, the many restrictions imposed on it. And Russia suffered. Until the last

[Cristall]

Quote: Spade

It's good that the "citizens of Ukraine" will not be able to accept anyone into NATO.

There has always been a bipolar political system in Ukraine.
And one of the parts was non-entry into NATO. For we are a neutral country, etc., etc.
That is, the status confirmed by everyone. And having an internal consensus of the majority.
Since Russian Ukraine has always formed its own requests. (Russian language, for example, there is no NATO, rapprochement with Moscow)
Let not always carried out, but the status of non-alignedness was fixed and carried out.
Before Krymsnash-about any NATO did not go. Observed the status.
For example, I myself was against the abolition of non-alignedness (if there weren’t Krymnash) and was very loyal to the Russian Federation. For me it was my own second country.
Everything was "killed" by Krymnash.

Quote: Spade

Everyone perfectly remembers the difficulties of the Black Sea Fleet's stay in Crimea, the many restrictions imposed on it. And Russia suffered. Until the last

Honestly, the games with the tambourine of Ukrainian and Russian politicians left their mark on everything.
For example, we start for gas - we end up with pressure on the base of the World Cup.
And these dances of the Russian Federation / Ukraine were often. Recall that the EU did not favor Ukraine for this. And almost always on the side of the Russian Federation was.
And when the trade wars went into action, gas transit, the World Cup base, went into action.
Nevertheless, the Russian Federation won. By signing the Kharkov agreement.
When there, oh yes, they were extended for another 25 years.
Despite the article about the prohibition of foreign bases, no one had any thoughts in his head to call the Russians (then still Russians and not Russians) "foreigners".
By the way, I was in Sevastopol. I have not seen any "Foreigners" there. Russians, yes. Well, they have always been there. As long as I read history. And the fact of their presence did not bother me. Until the end of centuries.
To the Crimea.
(I probably got the mention of how much Krymnash changed everything, but the way it is, and for us the Russians of Ukraine - Krymnash was a hard lesson in our carelessness and trust in the Russian Federation)

[passerby]

Quote: Cristall

I probably got a mention of how Krymnash changed everything, but the way it is, and for us the Russians of Ukraine - Krymnash was a hard lesson in our carelessness and trust in the Russian Federation

It’s really strange why Russia, after all these “moskalyak on a dime”, “BSF out of Sevastopol”, “promises of integration with NATO” and other nishtyaks from “friendly Ukraine” agreed that Crimea will become part of Russia by the will of its inhabitants . Strange somehow, strange and not logical. Moreover, Russia closed its market for Ukraine and stopped investing in Ukrainian industry, can you imagine what a vile and treacherous blow in the back of the economy is “non-stop”. Who, by signing the integration with the EU, could have suggested such a thing - no one, of course. But what can you take from unpredictable Russia, Ukrainians can only learn from these “lessons of carelessness and confidence in the Russian Federation”

[Meckajiuhe]

Yeah. You have to be a complete idiot to say: we'll pick it up tomorrow. Single cell.

[Thunderbringer]

I would say we will take it, the zeroed ones would shout that this is a "power hysteria".
I would say we will not take it, they would shout that "putinslil".
He said that he didn’t know, they shouted that you would "vyvyvrete".
They have a dudelka in the head only 3 variants of the melody gives out.

[Meckajiuhe]

Exactly

[codetalker]

Already, no one even thinks how many times the "patriots" solemnly announced that Putinslis ... Many have some naive idea that they need to hit the table harder with their fist and that all problems will be resolved by themselves.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: codetalker

Many have some naive idea that they need to hit the table harder with their fist and that all problems will be resolved by themselves

The road will be overpowered by a walker. Treading on the spot will only rub the corns without passing even hundreds of meters.

[codetalker]

And the one coming is coming. Calmly, confidently, without jerking, straight to the goal.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Tagan

the layman has no understanding of when the denouement comes

But there is a clear understanding that she inexcusably dragged on

[Mik1701]

To promise is not to marry? They created the conditions, poured in a lot of money and a lot of blood was spilled ..., or is it still not enough? It is not necessary to promise, since you cannot fulfill.

[Ryaruav]

where did this sand come from? he’s a friend, a relative, they probably don’t keep others there

[Thunderbringer]

He is smart, so he works there.
What a surprise, right?
There, in general, the majority are much smarter than the nullified opposition.
What the latter has perfectly demonstrated, and continues.

[rotkiv04]

He is not from the sand, he is from the sand, is it not visible on the face?

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Ryaruav

others are not kept there

There needs someone who will not blurt out too much. Friend / brother / matchmaker - in such a position he is able to substitute so that you will not wash yourself. This post is "honest".

[flicker]

The Kremlin does not know anything about the "accession" of Donbass to Russia

At the same time, it is hard to believe that Ukraine will survive until the end of this year. In the autumn elections ... in the United States ... "the Biden case" is somehow

[Cristall]

Quote: flicker

At the same time, it is hard to believe that Ukraine will survive until the end of this year. In the autumn elections ... in the United States ... "the Biden case" is somehow

new date ...
I've seen so many of them. When it was given hours, days .. Then weeks, then months ... then years.
There is nothing permanent than temporary.
And what's so difficult if all the partners (including the RF itself) support you.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

de facto state Ukraine does not exist. and de jure will cease to exist when the law on the sale of land comes into force .... femita la comedy

[Crimean partisan 1974]

It is hard to believe that Ukraine ....... Yes, there is already Ukraine. there was only the Kiev junta under external control. and now also the zemlyatska from country 404 is slipping away .... so the state of Ukraine is listed only on paper as in the past Persia and other people drowned in history

[Tagan]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Tagan

Another thing is that the average person does not have an understanding of when the denouement comes.

Never. As in Transnistria, Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
Unless the collapse of Ukraine, something can change. Or Ukraine’s refusal to claim for NATO membership.
So the fact that the return of Crimea was pulled is already a great achievement.

Well, Crimea couldn’t be given in any way.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Tagan

Well, Crimea couldn’t be given in any way.

Wow ... A direct threat to state security. It is strange that all these curators of the Ukrainian putschists did not realize that Russia would be obliged to respond.

[L-39NG]

There were times when there was such a comrade, directly a party comrade Parteigenosse, Hitler. He also thought that if many people of the German nationality live outside Germany, then these lands can be annexed to Germany. Does history tell you anything? Most importantly, how did this comrade end his life?

[Lopatov]

Quote: L-39NG

Does history tell you anything?

And you?
Want to talk about joining Texas?
Just do not need tales about the fact that the Americans will answer for their crime

Advice for the future: for history to "suggest" something, you need to know it.

[Revival]

Oh you .....................

[fn34440]

7 years soon will be the annihilation of the Russians, by the hands of the Russians, under the nose and in front of the Russians.
With the silent, weak-willed tolerance of the legendary United Russia party, headed by a brilliant lawyer and Russian Prime Minister Dmitro Medvedev. Hare Krsna.
Let me remind you. Hitler Russia in the USSR won in 3 and a half years. In the course of defeating more than 30 countries of the pro-Hitler cesspool.
And in Peskov’s family, who does not have double, triple, etc. citizenship, except for himself ???

[flicker]

Hitler Russia in the USSR won in 3 and a half years.

At the same time, note that not Russia as part of the USSR attacked Hitler.
They’ll kill them.

[Sergey Medvedev]

Quote: flicker

They’ll kill them.

We have already been attacked. Ukraine, the Baltic states and Moldova are occupied (except for the Transnistrian partisans).

[L-39NG]

And the question. And for someone to attack Russia. Do you all live according to the Stalin-Soviet patterns?
Resources? Yes, they yourself will gladly sell it for dollars or euros, And God forbid, attack, then you have to feed this crowd, standing with outstretched hands. We really are without you.
But I can’t vouch for the Chinese.

[passerby]

"Ay, pug! Know she is strong,
What barks at the Elephant! "(C)

[stalki]

What are we fighting with someone? To defeat someone, you need to fight for a start. And the arrows translate this holy thing to trolls. Of course, it is the Russians themselves who beat themselves for nothing, the rest of the world is certainly not worth it.

[rotkiv04]

A redhead again carries a blizzard

[Cristall]

Quote: rotkiv04

A redhead again carries a blizzard

“Do you really think that I control everyone? Vaughn [Dmitry] Peskov sits opposite, my press secretary, he sometimes carries such a "blizzard", I watch on TV and think: what is he talking about there? Who instructed him to do this? " - said the president.

[Tagan]

Quote: flicker

The Kremlin does not know anything about the "accession" of Donbass to Russia

At the same time, it is hard to believe that Ukraine will survive until the end of this year. In the autumn elections ... in the United States ... "the Biden case" is somehow

Yes, Ukraine, as such, in my opinion, is no longer there. There is territory, there is degraded power, there are galloping degenerates, but there is nothing inherent in the state.

[Tagan]

Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver

Quote: Tagan

the layman has no understanding of when the denouement comes

But there is a clear understanding that she inexcusably dragged on

Maybe. But many introductory notes are unknown to us.

[FIR FIR]

The Kremlin does not know anything about the "accession" of Donbass to Russia

Very sorry...

[flicker]

Denmark gave the go-ahead for the continuation of the construction of Nord Stream 2.
And how is this connected with the fate of Ukraine?

[demo]

As for some steps, de facto steps towards Russia, I don’t know anything about this, I don’t have any information on this.

Under the current leadership of the Russian Federation, no steps will be taken by the Russian Federation.
all those beautiful, inspiring slogans spoken by all the officials (even there are no forces to list the posts) turned out to be a simple PR move.
The people of Russia were once again "used" by rogues who know very well the mentality of our people.
Just disgusted by the actions of some villains.

Before the faith, there were not many words of idiots. Today, there is no gram left.

[mag nit]

And why the zero citizenship distributes?

[fn34440]

The sand is not drifting. Soon everything will change.
Russians will be killed more and more precisely.
According to open data, at the beginning of this year, Ankara transferred to the 383rd regiment of remote-controlled aircraft of the Armed Forces, located on the basis of the fighter regiment in Starokonstantinov, Khmelnytsky region, the first three Bayraktar TV2 with the prospect of increasing their number to six. The total contract amount of $ 69 million provides for the acquisition of APUs as well as two ground-based guidance stations for these UAVs and the training of 50 military personnel in working with the complexes.
it is especially dangerous for the personnel of the People’s Militia of the Republics - Bayraktar TV2, choosing an object to strike, can cruise continuously in the air for a very long time - up to a day, at a cruising speed of 130 km / h. Literally tracking down a suitable object for a strike. The maximum speed is 250 km / h. The payload is 55 kilograms, which makes it possible to attack even well-defended targets with two anti-tank missiles or one gliding bomb, without entering the destruction zone of the People’s Police at the forefront of air defense systems.
And in October 2020, the salozhorny “Luch” is going to present to the leadership of the Ukrainian Armed Forces a prototype of the actual Ukrainian Sokol-200 type drone. If you believe the words of the general designer, the total combined weight of the guided ammunition that each Sokol-200 will carry on its board is four times that of the Turkish Bayraktar TV2 - up to 200–250 kilograms. That, if successful, will allow delivering to the object of attack not two, but four anti-tank missiles.
Finally, the third reason for the amazingly striking work of the people of Kiev is their very obvious close cooperation with Turkish designers. As a result: the announced Sokol-200 in appearance and size is exactly the latest Turkish Anka-S strike drone (weight 1,6 tons), which Ankara completed in 2017. Some differences except in the form of flaps. And so - even the payload of both UAVs is exactly the same. That suggests: in fact, in Ukraine they do not create their own high-precision weapons, but they are going to covertly establish a “screwdriver” assembly of the Turkish drone under their own proud name. Moreover, the most important components of Sokol-200 will continue to come from the opposite shore of the Black Sea.
Thus, if the announced systems in the near future really appear in the Ukrainian army in the Donbass, the war there may acquire a new, much more dangerous quality. And then the losses of the defenders of LDNR to the delight of Kiev will increase sharply.
And Peskov is still laughing.
As in February 2014.
I wonder what he paints with a mustache?

[Mik1701]

Definitely not green!

[Crimean partisan 1974]

shmona drones ..... they still need to enter the MANPAD shelling zone and there will be an unexpected person here, it will be possible to fill such a drone shmon not only from the Needle but from the ancient Arrow-2, evil tongues say that DNR people still and the Wasp is .... so let’s let it accumulate trash since aviation is tight

[rruvim]

Peskov, as a "talking head" always "knows nothing." And in general: how much you can "chew snot". Attach, and that's it !!!

[yfast]

It was high time, but the point is already playing. 2014 saw both sides (growing and local). There it was still possible Zaporizhzhya region and the region of the son you yourself know who to attach. But too many foreign properties are our modesty from the authorities to do something now.

[HUNTERDON]

question? and why?

[yfast]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53V9Vo0f5wk&list=RDt2W47fpL7pI&index=18

[KOH]

Yeah! What a spokesman, what a president, they are worthy of each other ...)))

[Roman123567]

Well, why do we need such a sand ?? Why do we feed him ??
Everyone heard, but he again did not hear anything .. Bring a new one ..

[ZVS]

It would be right to say that the Kremlin DOES NOT WANT TO HEAR about the desire of the DLNR - the primordially Russian lands to join Russia.

[Wizzzard]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Svarog

And you obviously have so much to share ..

It’s not Putin’s saying, but Peskov. The VVP has said more than once that sometimes Peskov blurs such a thing that you throw a grenade at the carcasses. So what did Putin not please you here?

Pleased, pleased. Everyone is good and useful around. But even then it has long been known that many things that VVP himself would not want to say out loud (sometimes, by the way, an outright blizzard) are voiced by his regular "blizzard", Mr. Peskov. Here is such an ungrateful job ...