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The Kremlin does not know anything about the "accession" of Donbass to Russia

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Dmitry Peskov, who holds the post of spokesman for Vladimir Putin, has not heard anything about the possible imminent entry of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics into the Russian Federation. At the same time, our country continues to provide humanitarian assistance to the regions of Donbass beyond the control of Ukraine.


According to the information agency TASS, the Kremlin’s press service said this today.

Such was the reaction of the authorities of the Russian Federation to the words of the head of the Union of Volunteers of Donbass, Alexander Borodai, that de facto the DPR and LPR can already be called Russian regions.

According to Peskov, recently in the situation in the Donbass no positive changes have occurred. And Moscow does not take any steps aimed at joining the Republics to the Russian Federation:

As for some steps, de facto steps towards Russia, I don’t know anything about this, I don’t have any information on this.

He also noted that part of the residents of certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions received Russian passports and are now citizens of Russia. According to him, this is done for humanitarian reasons, since people were rejected by their own country.
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  1. alone
    alone 6 July 2020 19: 45 New
    +5
    As the saying goes, the bride has a wedding at the house, and the groom knows nothing ..
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 6 July 2020 19: 54 New
      +3
      What actually was to be expected. I always said that Putin has no intention of returning Russian lands ..
      1. Thunderbringer
        Thunderbringer 6 July 2020 20: 17 New
        -11
        Can you read?
        As for some steps, de facto steps towards Russia, then me about it nothing is known, any information on this subject I do not have.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 6 July 2020 20: 26 New
          15
          Quote: Thunderbringer
          this is not known, I do not have any information on this subject.

          And you obviously have laughing so share it .. otherwise, for 6 years people have already been ignorant .. When already “we don’t let our people go” will turn into reality?
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 6 July 2020 22: 51 New
            -6
            Quote: Svarog
            And you obviously have so much to share ..

            He says that it’s not Putin who says it, but Peskov. VVP has repeatedly said that sometimes Peskov blurs such a thing that throw a grenade at the carcasses. Peskov only deals with the press, and therefore he only says what he is allowed to say and to know. And you have already drawn conclusions about Putin and the politics of our entire state further in the Donbass.
            Well, if tomorrow grandmother blurs at the entrance that the Kremlin decided to join Cuba, you will begin to say that Putin’s kind of cunning plan is again?
            Or should all the plans be voiced and merged in the media according to yours? So what Putin did not please you here?
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        2. Roman123567
          Roman123567 7 July 2020 08: 50 New
          0
          nothing about me it is not knownany information on this subject I don't have
          The question is, what for feed a dog who does not monitor what is happening in the yard ..
      2. ilya63
        ilya63 6 July 2020 21: 26 New
        +1
        what do you want? so that he says that in a year or two we’ll join?
        1. snucerist
          snucerist 6 July 2020 22: 20 New
          +9
          I would very much like for Mr. Peskov to say something definite at least once.
          For example, how much will be twice two.
          For these are his eternal "I don’t know ... I don’t know ... I didn’t report ... I don’t know the information ... I don’t know ... I can’t comment ... I don’t have any information ... no such data has been reported. .. "they no longer cause laughter, but a desire to ask a question: does he even know the size of his salary? And why is he even paid money?
          1. halpat
            halpat 6 July 2020 22: 52 New
            -3
            Quote: snucerist
            I would very much like for Mr. Peskov to say something definite at least once.
            For example, how much will be twice two.

            He replied that he did not have information on this issue. :))
            He will not say anything until the command was given.
            Putin spoke out a couple of years ago. I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the quote, but the point is: Sometimes Peskov says ... I hear and think ... that he sculpts something utterly out there ...
            From those Sands fell silent. He knows his place.
          2. U-58
            U-58 7 July 2020 03: 55 New
            +2
            Will not say, do not wait.
            1. If you are against, then the answer is diplomatically evasive so as not to look bad.
            2. If you are a secret, then the answer is diplomatically evasive so as not to reveal plans.
            3. If Russian tanks occupied Donetsk and continue to move to the border, then the diplomatic response is evasive ....
            And so on with all the options
      3. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 6 July 2020 21: 45 New
        +4
        And Peskov was supposed to declare to the whole world: they say the reunion will happen on July 20 at exactly 18.00? So what? Well, how small the children are.
        1. Roman123567
          Roman123567 7 July 2020 08: 53 New
          -1
          And Peskov was supposed to declare to the whole world: they say the reunion will happen on July 20 at exactly 18.00? So what? Well, how small the children are.

          As small children, these are those who believe that the people are paying him a salary simply in order to hear from him "I don’t know" .. everyone can not know without Peskov ..
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 7 July 2020 08: 59 New
            +1
            The decision to reunite Crimea with Russia was announced immediately after the referendum. But not in advance. Do not know why?
      4. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 7 July 2020 23: 08 New
        0
        Hey, who returned the Crimea? You? I am not for Putin, but I am against lies.
    2. Civil
      Civil 6 July 2020 20: 28 New
      -1
      Quote: lonely
      I have not heard anything about the possible imminent entry of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics into the Russian Federation

      Not even hunting is a comment.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 July 2020 19: 49 New
    +5
    Russian passports have received a little. IMHO. Less than 10% of the population. That will be 50-50, there will be another calico ...
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 6 July 2020 20: 04 New
      17
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Russian passports have received a little. IMHO. Less than 10% of the population. That will be 50-50, there will be another calico ...

      Was Crimea connected with passports?
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 6 July 2020 20: 09 New
        -4
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Was Crimea connected with passports?

        Crimea in any way! This is generally a happy case when ALL the population wanted to escape from Ukraine, but it turned out together with the peninsula. About Donbass can I say that? Not.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 6 July 2020 20: 14 New
          11
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          when ALL the population wanted to escape from Ukraine

          And actually since the collapse of the USSR. The mood to join Russia was constantly there.
          The SBU was not in vain trying to create a "counterweight" in the form of the Crimean Tatars.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 7 July 2020 08: 03 New
            0
            But no one has knocked the Tatars into the snout, so they will wait for the Autonomous Tatar Republic on the land of Kherson (which they have never kept (and will not keep them for the most part in New Russia)), but their mouths will continue to be angry in the Crimea, although They don’t want to put up with Russians - this is a stalemate, so let them slowly filter ...
        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 6 July 2020 20: 21 New
          22
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Crimea in any way! This is generally a happy case when ALL the population wanted to escape from Ukraine, but it turned out together with the peninsula. About Donbass can I say that? Not.

          Enough to carry nonsense, would like to pick up, would have long been picked up. Strictly speaking, this applies to all of Ukraine.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 6 July 2020 20: 29 New
            -16
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Enough to carry nonsense, would like to pick up, would have long been picked up.

            I am ashamed of you, honestly. The fact that you cannot lift a barbell of 500 kg is just a shame.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 6 July 2020 20: 32 New
              +9
              Quote: Spade
              I am ashamed of you, honestly. The fact that you cannot lift a barbell of 500 kg is just a shame.

              I don’t see the connection. Or do you want to say that such an operation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2014-15 was not possible?
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 6 July 2020 20: 35 New
                -15
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                I don’t see the connection.

                Are you used to demanding the impossible only from others?
                Come on, get ready and go to the shell. I will explain to you how to lift. In theory. wassat

                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Or do you want to say that such an operation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2014-15 was not possible?

                Bingo!
                And not only the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but also Russia as a whole. And not only in 2014-2015, but also now.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 6 July 2020 20: 45 New
                  12
                  Quote: Spade
                  And not only the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but also Russia as a whole. And not only in 2014-2015, but also now.

                  I don’t know what time it is, but in 2014-15, this was possible together with the militias, and Putin had permission from the State Duma, and the people wanted and expected this. Only the money in accounts in Western banks, it was a pity for our oligarchs, they could freeze. Simply put.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 6 July 2020 21: 00 New
                    -11
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    but in 2014-15, together with the militias, it was possible

                    You probably live in another country? And you don’t observe how hard Russia is “pulling” Crimea. In virtually all areas, sanctions and restrictions. Including those who hit the wallets of the Russians. Ordinary. Not the oligarchs.

                    So do not need this rally. “Simply put,” go to a 500 kg bar and lift. And it’s a disgrace that you still haven’t lifted, because "you would like to take this weight, you would have taken it long ago"

                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    Strictly speaking, this applies to all of Ukraine.

                    Well, definitely not from Russia.
                    I recall that all these bloody events in Ukraine began precisely with a cautious attempt by Russia to enter the neighbor more deeply into its sphere of interests. What the Americans reacted hysterically.
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 6 July 2020 21: 22 New
                      +8
                      Quote: Spade
                      I recall that all these bloody events in Ukraine began precisely with a cautious attempt by Russia to enter the neighbor more deeply into its sphere of interests.

                      No, my golden one, strictly speaking, this whole bacchanalia began with the Bialowieza conspiracy between Yeltsin, Shushkevich and Kravchuk. And then it quietly developed for itself, it was “overslept” by the Russian Federation and, in the end, resulted in this bloody disgrace.
                      Quote: Spade
                      with what enormous effort Russia "pulls" Crimea

                      Please explain in more detail how difficult it is for Russia to pull Crimea, if since 2014 our officials have shouted that Crimea is already almost "self-sustaining."
                      Quote: Spade
                      In virtually all areas, sanctions and restrictions.

                      Compare these "sanctions" with sanctions against the USSR, there really were sanctions, but they did not stop anyone.

                      Quote: Spade
                      Including those who hit the wallets of the Russians.

                      In my wallet, other things hit much harder. Should I list them? Or save time? And yet, the transition in the dispute to individuals (from which country I am, etc.) speaks only about the weakness of your position.
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 6 July 2020 21: 32 New
                        -10
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        No, my golden one, strictly speaking, this whole bacchanalia began with the Bialowieza conspiracy between Yeltsin, Shushkevich and Kravchuk.

                        Are you talking about this crime of the Communists?
                        I agree, it requires a thorough investigation.
                        However, to your shameful reluctance to raise a barbell of 500 kg has nothing to do.

                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Please explain in more detail how difficult it is for Russia to pull Crimea, if since 2014 our officials have shouted that Crimea is already almost "self-sustaining."

                        You also do not know how to read in Russian? Like black and white "In virtually all areas, sanctions and restrictions. Including those that hit the wallets of Russians."
                        What's so incomprehensible?

                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Compare these "sanctions" with sanctions against the USSR, there really were sanctions, but they did not stop anyone.

                        That is, you want Russia to repeat the fate of the USSR, I understand correctly?

                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        In my wallet, other things hit much harder. Should I list them? Or save time?

                        List! Mandatory. And then you try to prove that these are “other things” that have absolutely nothing to do with external pressure.
                        And you can’t do it.
                      2. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 6 July 2020 23: 35 New
                        +8
                        Quote: Spade
                        No, my golden one, strictly speaking, this whole bacchanalia began with the Bialowieza conspiracy between Yeltsin, Shushkevich and Kravchuk.
                        Are you talking about this crime of the Communists?
                        I agree, it requires a thorough investigation.
                        However, to your shameful reluctance to raise a barbell of 500 kg has nothing to do.

                        Tell me, do you consider Vlasov the same as communists? Maybe enough of these dirty manipulations to produce? Is there a big difference between Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kravchuk,
                        Shushkevich and Vlasov? And how far has Putin gone from them?
                        Quote: Spade
                        Compare these "sanctions" with sanctions against the USSR, there really were sanctions, but they did not stop anyone.
                        That is, you want Russia to repeat the fate of the USSR, I understand correctly?

                        Not right. Do you think that the USSR fell apart because of sanctions? No, the USSR collapsed thanks to the betrayal of people who today own the main assets of the state (let's call a spade a spade). And our "guarantor of the constitution" acts as a defender of their interests.
                        Quote: Spade
                        In my wallet, other things hit much harder. Should I list them? Or save time?
                        List! Mandatory. And then you try to prove that these are “other things” that have absolutely nothing to do with external pressure.
                        And you can’t do it.

                        Do I need to talk about hidden tax technologies? About excise taxes on gasoline? For cigarettes, alcohol? Look at least on a check from some Magnit or another supermarket how much the purchase is and how much VAT. Are all sanctions to blame? Are you seriously?
                        Quote: Spade
                        Please explain in more detail how difficult it is for Russia to pull Crimea, if since 2014 our officials have shouted that Crimea is already almost "self-sustaining."
                        You also do not know how to read in Russian? Like black and white "In virtually all areas, sanctions and restrictions. Including those that hit the wallets of Russians."
                        What's so incomprehensible?

                        I don’t know what to write here. Have you not yet understood that sanctions today are just a method of competition, nothing more. If there weren’t Crimea, or the Asia Minor Boeing, they would have found something else. Look at the US sanctions applied to China. What have they attached? Islands poured? All this is just an excuse when you understand this already.
                  2. 72jora72
                    72jora72 6 July 2020 21: 23 New
                    0
                    You probably live in another country? And you don’t observe how hard Russia is pulling Crimea
                    Maybe then the friends of Sterkhovod cease to rob the country?
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 6 July 2020 21: 40 New
                      -7
                      I agree. Tell them to stop.
                  3. Cristall
                    Cristall 6 July 2020 21: 52 New
                    -6
                    Quote: Spade
                    I recall that all these bloody events in Ukraine began precisely with a cautious attempt by Russia to enter the neighbor more deeply into its sphere of interests.

                    a cautious attempt was apparently in buying up the second half of Ukraine. Since the first half was successfully purchased. Russian capital owned a lot in Ukraine.
                    In fact, no one interfered with acting in that vein. Neither Americans nor even Maidan.
                    But it was necessary to invent greatness and Crimea. Although it was easier with giblets to redeem the remains, not paying attention. And not arranging ter. redistribution.
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 6 July 2020 22: 02 New
                      -4
                      Quote: Cristall
                      a cautious attempt apparently was in buying up

                      A cautious attempt was to integrate. In the common economic space.

                      Quote: Cristall
                      In fact, no one interfered with acting in that vein. Neither Americans nor even Maidan.

                      Lying.
                      "Now steps are being taken to re-Sovietize the region. It will be called differently - the customs union, the Eurasian Union and so on. But let's not be deceived. We know the purpose of this and are trying to find effective ways to slow or prevent it.". pts. Mrs. Clinton, Secretary of State, said very frankly.
                      And you will not be able to edit the story.



                      Quote: Cristall
                      Although it was easier to redeem the remains with giblets

                      And why do you think the Americans and the Europeans did not “buy out these balances,” having incomparably greater financial capabilities? Why did you decide to lead Ukraine through a lot of blood? Indeed, without all these "Maidan" it would have been much easier. Not even money, just financial guarantees for the part of the Ukrainian oligarchy that could suffer from the "association"?
                    2. Cristall
                      Cristall 6 July 2020 22: 35 New
                      -6
                      Quote: Spade
                      A cautious attempt was to integrate. In the common economic space.

                      There was a choice of a vehicle or an EU. And there were very strong disagreements. And everything was 50/50. There was no cautious attempt. For the pressure on Ukraine was enormous.
                      Recall what "trade wars" were fought for this? Ours did not even begin to introduce counter-actions. Although "Onischenki" very stubbornly found everything in sweets, cheese, milk, etc.
                      Politically and economically, Moscow exerted very strong pressure on Kiev to implement the CU. For now, without Ukraine, you can only learn about the TS from the Internet.
                      And so there would be a market of 200/300 million. Moscow does not know how to unite. They know how to manage. To subordinate. But do not combine. Buy / subjugate. It’s bad when without soft power.
                      Quote: Spade
                      Mrs. Clinton, Secretary of State, said very frankly.

                      So what? You never know which of the politicians said. Only matters are set off.
                      And the secretaries of state have already changed a lot. And they said too much.
                      In their economic zone, no one counteracted. Each year, Ukraine more and more passed into the ownership of Russian capital.
                      Quote: Spade
                      And why do you think the Americans and the Europeans did not “buy out these balances,” having incomparably greater financial capabilities?

                      Very strange but no. Compare the shares of Russian capital in the Ukrainian market and any other. Even after the Maidan, it was the Russian Federation that was the main investor in Ukraine.
                      The first Maidan acted very correctly. Waited, and then bought even more assets.
                      What prevented the second to complete the purchase?
                      Oh yes ... greatness ... post-imperial syndrome. Maidan is generally a profitable thing for the Russian Federation. After them, dependence on the Russian Federation increases. But if not for Krymnash.
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                    4. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 6 July 2020 23: 40 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Cristall
                      Recall what "trade wars" were fought for this? Ours did not even begin to introduce counter-actions. Although "Onischenki" very stubbornly found everything in sweets, cheese, milk, etc.
                      Politically and economically, Moscow exerted very strong pressure on Kiev

                      Does today's relationship between Russia and Belarus not remind you?
                    5. passerby
                      passerby 7 July 2020 05: 14 New
                      +4
                      I do not understand you. You speak of Ukraine being crushed, demanding a choice. Crushed by both Russia and the EU, and in the end you made a choice in favor of the EU. And having made this choice, did you seriously believe that Russia would continue to invest in Ukraine? Are you serious? Why is it for Russia, why is it for the Russians? Link to the first Maidan generally smiled. Have you ever thought that the second Maidan was the result of the toothless reaction of Moscow to the first Maidan? About post-imperial syndrome is better not necessary. Of course, I understand that it was much more profitable for Ukrainians to integrate with the EU, while receiving investments and a market for industrial products from Russia at the same time, but it doesn’t happen, patience ends at some stage and it turns out what happened. The partnership is that the partners understand and take into account each other’s interests, Ukraine did not take into account the interests of Russia, moreover, it undermined these interests, while continuing to have bonuses from Russia in the form of investments, access to the market and cheap raw materials, receiving “moskalyak” in response on Gilyaku ”, ticking watches before the Black Sea Fleet’s withdrawal from Sevastopol and other funny showers from Ukrainians. Why should Russia continue to endure this and invest in the Ukrainian economy? Don't you think that would be very strange?
                2. passerby
                  passerby 7 July 2020 05: 00 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Cristall
                  Although it was easier with giblets to redeem the remains, not paying attention. And not arranging ter. redistribution.
                  Explain why Russia had to increase funding for Ukrainian industry? For what? What was the benefit for Russia?
              2. rruvim
                rruvim 6 July 2020 23: 09 New
                -2
                Do you personally pull? For the whole of Russia? This Crimea by and large pulls Russia. Forward! And they are sanctions for those who are used to living at the expense of the West. They do not concern an ordinary Russian person: neither a worker, nor a peasant, nor an engineer. Only some merchants ...
          2. Alexey from Perm
            Alexey from Perm 6 July 2020 22: 05 New
            +3
            just in 2014 this could be done without war, unlike now
          3. strelokmira
            strelokmira 6 July 2020 23: 39 New
            0
            Bingo!
            And not only the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but also Russia as a whole. And not only in 2014-2015, but also now.

            If 5 in number, the army of the world can not stop the regional conflict .... In general, there are no censorship words
    2. 113262a
      113262a 6 July 2020 22: 12 New
      +4
      About Donbass after 6 years of killing people, you can now say anything! Then the miners didn’t take YOU from the mines, then they didn’t get all the passports (by the way, the LDNR passport is obligatory!). Excuse me by the training manual-trifling matter! After receiving 50% of the passports, what will they say there? Siberia and the Far East-large-throw all-bread-salt in the taiga?
  3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 July 2020 20: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Lucky case

    This is a normal case.
  4. halpat
    halpat 6 July 2020 22: 59 New
    +2
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Was Crimea connected with passports?

    Crimea in any way! This is generally a happy case when ALL the population wanted to escape from Ukraine, but it turned out together with the peninsula. About Donbass can I say that? Not.

    Other things played a significant role.
    1. The presence of a large Russian military contingent.
    2. The location itself (a peninsula with a narrow isthmus). Defending and controlling is easier.
    3. Cowboys could not be allowed into the Crimea. This would change the whole military situation in the Black Sea and in the adjacent regions and states.

    Donbass does not correspond to any of the above items.
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 6 July 2020 20: 06 New
    -1
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Less than 10% of the population. That will be 50-50, there will be another calico ...

    It will not.
    Here in the same South Ossetia, 95% of Russian passport holders
    1. 210ox
      210ox 6 July 2020 20: 40 New
      +7
      Even in Crimea, many blue papyri preserved. Not just in case, but for trips to relatives at a farm near Zhmerinka or for a trip abroad.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 6 July 2020 20: 42 New
        +1
        But they are still as far as I remember. for the most part were the most “divisions” ... It was not in vain that “friendship trains” drove them
        1. 113262a
          113262a 6 July 2020 22: 15 New
          +7
          And who YOU ​​(not even YOU!) Said that FRIENDSHIP trains did not come to Lugansk? So in RODAKOVO, with our own hands, they pushed us back into the cars drenched in green and weeping ONE-CHILDREN! The scene is Rodakovsky REP.
  • Kronos
    Kronos 6 July 2020 20: 32 New
    +1
    How many Russian passports are there in Transnistria and Abkhazia?
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 6 July 2020 21: 58 New
      -3
      Quote: Kronos
      How many Russian passports are there in Transnistria and Abkhazia?

      260 thousand Moldovan
      100 thousand Ukrainian
      170 thousand Russian.
      passports.
      But this is considering that many have 3 or more passports (plus Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian))
      The embassies of the Russian Federation and Ukraine require registration in Chisinau.
      Out of once 700 thousand population of Transdniestria is now less than 300 thousand ..
      Not a good trend ..
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 6 July 2020 22: 08 New
        0
        In the DPR, the exact same situation
        1. Cristall
          Cristall 6 July 2020 22: 38 New
          -4
          Quote: Kronos
          In the DPR, the exact same situation

          the trick is that statistics always indicate data that can be shared with others.
          For example, citizens of Ukraine in the Crimea. They are citizens of two countries at the same time.
          (the procedure for withdrawing from a Russian or Ukrainian citizenship is difficult to observe at all, almost unrealistic)
          So are the citizens in the Ordlo.
          In PMR, the coolest thing is. They with Moldova there can hold up to 6/7 passports ...
  • Stas1973
    Stas1973 7 July 2020 03: 52 New
    +1
    In general, there are no restrictions. Whoever wants it has already received it. My relative in Lugansk received a passport after 3 months from the date of application. And passports issue ud half a year. During this time, everyone could already get it if the residents needed it.
  • mark_rod
    mark_rod 6 July 2020 19: 51 New
    +7
    Who would doubt .... My hut from the edge, I do not know and I do not want to know anything! But what about the last slogan "Russians do not abandon their own"? Obviously, it was something like from the movie "Brother 2" - "We Guzian do not deceive our own!"
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 6 July 2020 20: 33 New
      +4
      Already 6 years have passed, and you just noticed?
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 6 July 2020 19: 57 New
    +5
    de facto steps towards Russia, I don’t know anything about it, I do not have any information on this.

    The caravan again drives the blizzard.
    1. Thunderbringer
      Thunderbringer 6 July 2020 20: 19 New
      -6
      Self-critical. I praise you.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 6 July 2020 22: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: Thunderbringer
        Self-critical. I praise you.

        Peskov, or what? Well, praise further.
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 6 July 2020 20: 00 New
    -2
    Foreign opinion: this is an absolutely good diplomatic response in the structure of the current moment. Peskov now in his place deserves respect in the difficult situation of the international “identification of Putin - the president”
    1. Thunderbringer
      Thunderbringer 6 July 2020 20: 20 New
      -9
      Painful she is only in the opposition trench.
      It’s impossible to breathe even nearby.
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 6 July 2020 20: 28 New
        0
        With a smile: I thank you for your commentary, but for some reason it is incomprehensibly related to coprophilia.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 6 July 2020 20: 02 New
    -2
    Quote: Svarog
    What actually was to be expected. I always said that Putin has no intention of returning Russian lands ..

    In your interests, it’s better not to remember what you always said. )))
  • Tagan
    Tagan 6 July 2020 20: 08 New
    +4
    Quote: mark_rod
    Who would doubt .... My hut from the edge, I do not know and I do not want to know anything! But what about the last slogan "Russians do not abandon their own"? Obviously, it was something like from the movie "Brother 2" - "We Guzian do not deceive our own!"

    Well, actually, if we abandoned our people, there would be neither the DNR nor the LC. Another thing is that the average person does not have an understanding of when the denouement comes. And Peskov is not the best assistant in this)))
    (You are apparently far from the border)
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 6 July 2020 20: 12 New
      -7
      Quote: Tagan
      Another thing is that the average person does not have an understanding of when the denouement comes.

      Never. As in Transnistria, Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
      Unless the collapse of Ukraine, something can change. Or Ukraine’s refusal to claim for NATO membership.
      So the fact that the return of Crimea was pulled is already a great achievement.
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 6 July 2020 20: 42 New
        +4
        You put three completely different situations into one. Abkhazia and South Ossetia are gradually integrating into the Russian Federation. Transnistria - protection against the absorption of Moldova by Romania. And LDNR is the only legal subjects of government in the territory of the former Ukraine, which have to restore the constitutional system in it. There are no time limits in any of the situations described.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 6 July 2020 20: 45 New
          -3
          Quote: codetalker
          You put three completely different situations into one.

          Absolutely not.
          Transnistria, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, as well as Donbass, do not allow Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine to join NATO.
          1. codetalker
            codetalker 6 July 2020 21: 03 New
            +1
            Such a goal exists, but in the general hierarchy of goals it is not in the first place. Abkhazia and South Ossetia, for example, already do not prevent Georgia from joining NATO.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 6 July 2020 21: 11 New
              -3
              Quote: codetalker
              Abkhazia and South Ossetia, for example, already do not prevent Georgia from joining NATO.

              ??
              You are confusing something.
              Not a single Georgian politician will abandon these territories; this is actually a political death.
              1. codetalker
                codetalker 6 July 2020 21: 33 New
                0
                No, he will not refuse. But even if he refuses, joining NATO will not help much.
      2. Cristall
        Cristall 6 July 2020 22: 02 New
        -4
        Quote: Spade
        Or Ukraine’s refusal to claim for NATO membership.

        after our Crimea, there were no brakes for absolute agreement among Ukrainian citizens to join NATO.
        Previously, more than half were negative, and there were few chances besides cooperation.
        The buffering of the territory was clearly supported. Even with a bias that this is a zone of economic political and cultural interests of the Russian Federation. And all understood and agreed.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 6 July 2020 22: 04 New
          -2
          Quote: Cristall
          after our Crimea, there were no brakes for absolute agreement among Ukrainian citizens to join NATO.

          laughing laughing laughing
          It is good that the "citizens of Ukraine" will not be able to accept anyone into NATO.

          Quote: Cristall
          And all understood and agreed.

          Again a lie.
          Everyone perfectly remembers the difficulties of the Black Sea Fleet's stay in Crimea, the many restrictions imposed on it. And Russia suffered. Until the last
          1. Cristall
            Cristall 6 July 2020 22: 50 New
            -7
            Quote: Spade
            It is good that the "citizens of Ukraine" will not be able to accept anyone into NATO.

            There has always been a bipolar political system in Ukraine.
            And one of the parts was non-entry into NATO. For we are a neutral country, etc., etc.
            That is, the status confirmed by everyone. And having an internal consensus of the majority.
            Since Russian Ukraine has always formed its own requests. (Russian language, for example, there is no NATO, rapprochement with Moscow)
            Let not always carried out, but the status of non-alignedness was fixed and carried out.
            Before Krymsnash-about any NATO did not go. Observed the status.
            For example, I myself was against the abolition of non-alignedness (if there weren’t Krymnash) and was very loyal to the Russian Federation. For me it was my own second country.
            All "killed" Krymnash.
            Quote: Spade
            Everyone perfectly remembers the difficulties of the Black Sea Fleet's stay in Crimea, the many restrictions imposed on it. And Russia suffered. Until the last

            Honestly, the games with the tambourine of Ukrainian and Russian politicians left their mark on everything.
            For example, we start for gas - we end up with pressure on the base of the World Cup.
            And these dances of the Russian Federation / Ukraine were often. Recall that the EU did not favor Ukraine for this. And almost always on the side of the Russian Federation was.
            And when the trade wars went into action, gas transit, the World Cup base, went into action.
            Nevertheless, the Russian Federation won. By signing the Kharkov agreement.
            When there, oh yes, they were extended for another 25 years.
            Despite the article about the prohibition of foreign bases, no one had the idea to call Russians (then Russians and not Russians) “foreigners”.
            By the way, I was in Sevastopol. I didn’t see any “Aliens” there. Russians yes. Well, there they always were. How much I read the story. And the fact of their presence did not bother me. At least until the end of centuries.
            To the Crimea.
            (I probably got the mention of how much Krymnash changed everything, but the way it is, and for us the Russians of Ukraine - Krymnash was a hard lesson in our carelessness and trust in the Russian Federation)
            1. passerby
              passerby 7 July 2020 05: 36 New
              +1
              Quote: Cristall
              I probably got a mention of how Krymnash changed everything, but the way it is, and for us the Russians of Ukraine - Krymnash was a hard lesson in our carelessness and trust in the Russian Federation


              It’s really strange why Russia, after all these “moskalyak on a dime”, “BSF out of Sevastopol”, “promises of integration with NATO” and other nishtyaks from “friendly Ukraine” agreed that Crimea will become part of Russia by the will of its inhabitants . Strange somehow, strange and not logical. Moreover, Russia closed its market for Ukraine and stopped investing in Ukrainian industry, can you imagine what a vile and treacherous blow in the back of the economy is “non-stop”. Who, by signing the integration with the EU, could have suggested such a thing - no one, of course. But what can you take from unpredictable Russia, Ukrainians can only learn from these “lessons of carelessness and confidence in the Russian Federation”
    2. Meckajiuhe
      Meckajiuhe 6 July 2020 20: 16 New
      +7
      Yeah. You have to be a complete idiot to say: we'll pick it up tomorrow. Single cell.
      1. Thunderbringer
        Thunderbringer 6 July 2020 20: 24 New
        -5
        I would say we’ll take it, the nullified people would scream that it’s a “tantrum of power”.
        He wouldn’t say we’d take it, they would shout that he had putinsl.
        He said that he didn’t know, they were shouting that he would "vysoveret".
        They have a dudelka in the head only 3 variants of the melody gives out.
        1. Meckajiuhe
          Meckajiuhe 6 July 2020 20: 27 New
          0
          Exactly
    3. codetalker
      codetalker 6 July 2020 20: 16 New
      -11
      Already, no one even thinks how many times the "patriots" solemnly announced that Putinslis ... Many have some naive idea that they need to hit the table harder with their fist and that all problems will be resolved by themselves.
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 July 2020 20: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: codetalker
        Many have some naive idea that they need to hit the table harder with their fist and that all problems will be resolved by themselves

        The road will be overpowered by a walker. Treading on the spot will only rub the corns without passing even hundreds of meters.
        1. codetalker
          codetalker 6 July 2020 20: 37 New
          -7
          And the one coming is coming. Calmly, confidently, without jerking, straight to the goal.
    4. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 July 2020 20: 28 New
      +3
      Quote: Tagan
      the layman has no understanding of when the denouement comes

      But there is a clear understanding that she inexcusably dragged on
    5. Mik1701
      Mik1701 6 July 2020 21: 51 New
      -2
      To promise is not to marry? They created the conditions, poured in a lot of money and a lot of blood was spilled ..., or is it still not enough? It is not necessary to promise, since you cannot fulfill.
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 6 July 2020 20: 11 New
    -1
    where did this sand come from? he’s a friend, a relative, they probably don’t keep others there
    1. Thunderbringer
      Thunderbringer 6 July 2020 20: 26 New
      -3
      He is smart, so he works there.
      What a surprise, right?
      There, in general, the majority are much smarter than the nullified opposition.
      What the latter has perfectly demonstrated, and continues.
    2. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 6 July 2020 20: 29 New
      +1
      He is not from the sand, he is from the sand, is it not visible on the face?
    3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 6 July 2020 20: 32 New
      -3
      Quote: Ryaruav
      others are not kept there

      Someone is needed there who will not blurt out too much. Friend / brother / matchmaker - in such a position he is able to substitute so that you won’t wash yourself. This post is honest.
  • flicker
    flicker 6 July 2020 20: 16 New
    -4
    The Kremlin does not know anything about the "accession" of Donbass to Russia

    At the same time, it is hard to believe that Ukraine will live to see the end of this year. Autumn elections ... in the US ... "Biden’s affair"
    bully
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 6 July 2020 22: 05 New
      -4
      Quote: flicker
      At the same time, it is hard to believe that Ukraine will live to see the end of this year. Autumn elections ... in the US ... "Biden’s affair"

      new date ...
      I've seen so many of them. When it was given hours, days .. Then weeks, then months ... then years.
      There is nothing permanent than temporary.
      And what's so difficult if all the partners (including the RF itself) support you.
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 7 July 2020 08: 30 New
        0
        de facto state Ukraine does not exist. and de jure will cease to exist when the law on the sale of land comes into force .... femita la comedy
    2. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 7 July 2020 08: 19 New
      0
      It is hard to believe that Ukraine ....... Yes, there is already Ukraine. there was only the Kiev junta under external control. and now also the zemlyatska from country 404 is slipping away .... so the state of Ukraine is listed only on paper as in the past Persia and other people drowned in history
  • Tagan
    Tagan 6 July 2020 20: 17 New
    +3
    Quote: Spade
    Quote: Tagan
    Another thing is that the average person does not have an understanding of when the denouement comes.

    Never. As in Transnistria, Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
    Unless the collapse of Ukraine, something can change. Or Ukraine’s refusal to claim for NATO membership.
    So the fact that the return of Crimea was pulled is already a great achievement.

    Well, Crimea couldn’t be given in any way.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 6 July 2020 20: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Tagan
      Well, Crimea couldn’t be given in any way.

      Wow ... A direct threat to state security. It is strange that all these curators of the Ukrainian putschists did not realize that Russia would be obliged to respond.
      1. L-39NG
        L-39NG 6 July 2020 21: 24 New
        -5
        There were times when there was such a comrade, directly a party comrade Parteigenosse, Hitler. He also thought that if many people of the German nationality live outside Germany, then these lands can be annexed to Germany. Does history tell you anything? Most importantly, how did this comrade end his life?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 6 July 2020 21: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: L-39NG
          Does history tell you anything?

          And you?
          Want to talk about joining Texas?
          Just do not need tales about the fact that the Americans will answer for their crime laughing

          Advice for the future: for the story to “suggest” something, you need to know it.
  • Revival
    Revival 6 July 2020 20: 21 New
    -1
    Oh you .....................
  • fn34440
    fn34440 6 July 2020 20: 21 New
    +5
    7 years soon will be the annihilation of the Russians, by the hands of the Russians, under the nose and in front of the Russians.
    With the silent, weak-willed tolerance of the legendary United Russia party led by the brilliant lawyer and Prime Minister of Russia Dmitro Medvedev. Hare Krsna.
    Let me remind you. Hitler Russia in the USSR won in 3 and a half years. In the course of defeating more than 30 countries of the pro-Hitler cesspool.
    And in Peskov’s family, who does not have double, triple, etc. citizenship, except for himself ???
    1. flicker
      flicker 6 July 2020 20: 36 New
      -4
      Hitler Russia in the USSR won in 3 and a half years.

      At the same time, note that not Russia as part of the USSR attacked Hitler.
      They’ll kill them.
      1. Sergey Medvedev
        Sergey Medvedev 6 July 2020 20: 56 New
        0
        Quote: flicker
        They’ll kill them.

        We have already been attacked. Ukraine, the Baltic states and Moldova are occupied (except for the Transnistrian partisans).
      2. L-39NG
        L-39NG 6 July 2020 21: 33 New
        -5
        And the question. And for someone to attack Russia. Do you all live according to the Stalin-Soviet patterns?
        Resources? Yes, they yourself will gladly sell it for dollars or euros, And God forbid, attack, then you have to feed this crowd, standing with outstretched hands. We really are without you.
        But I can’t vouch for the Chinese.
        1. passerby
          passerby 7 July 2020 05: 48 New
          0
          "Ah, Moska, to know, she is strong,
          What barks at the Elephant! "(C)
    2. stalki
      stalki 6 July 2020 20: 39 New
      0
      What are we fighting with someone? To defeat someone, you need to fight for a start. And the arrows translate this holy thing to trolls. Of course, it is the Russians themselves who beat themselves for nothing, the rest of the world is certainly not worth it. wink
  • rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 6 July 2020 20: 25 New
    +3
    A redhead again carries a blizzard
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 6 July 2020 22: 08 New
      -7
      Quote: rotkiv04
      A redhead again carries a blizzard

      “Do you really think that I control everyone? There [Dmitry] Peskov sits opposite, my spokesperson, he sometimes carries such a "blizzard", I watch on TV and think: what is he saying there? Who charged him with this? ” - the president noted.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 6 July 2020 20: 29 New
    -8
    Quote: flicker
    The Kremlin does not know anything about the "accession" of Donbass to Russia

    At the same time, it is hard to believe that Ukraine will live to see the end of this year. Autumn elections ... in the US ... "Biden’s affair"
    bully

    Yes, Ukraine, as such, in my opinion, is no longer there. There is territory, there is degraded power, there are galloping degenerates, but there is nothing inherent in the state.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 6 July 2020 20: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Quote: Tagan
    the layman has no understanding of when the denouement comes

    But there is a clear understanding that she inexcusably dragged on

    Maybe. But many introductory notes are unknown to us.
  • FIR FIR
    FIR FIR 6 July 2020 20: 39 New
    +2
    The Kremlin does not know anything about the "accession" of Donbass to Russia

    Very sorry...
  • flicker
    flicker 6 July 2020 20: 41 New
    -1
    Denmark gave the green light to continue the construction of Nord Stream-2.
    And how is this connected with the fate of Ukraine? request
    bully
  • demo
    demo 6 July 2020 20: 42 New
    +3
    As for some steps, de facto steps towards Russia, I don’t know anything about this, I don’t have any information on this.

    Under the current leadership of the Russian Federation, no steps will be taken by the Russian Federation.
    all those beautiful, inspiring slogans spoken by all the officials (even there are no forces to list the posts) turned out to be a simple PR move.
    Once again, the people of Russia have been “used” by swindlers who know very well the mentality of our people.
    Just disgusted by the actions of some villains.

    Before the faith, there were not many words of idiots. Today, there is no gram left.
  • mag nit
    mag nit 6 July 2020 20: 56 New
    +1
    And why the zero citizenship distributes?
  • fn34440
    fn34440 6 July 2020 21: 08 New
    0
    The sand is not drifting. Soon everything will change.
    Russians will be killed more and more precisely.
    According to open data, at the beginning of this year, Ankara transferred to the 383rd regiment of remote-controlled aircraft of the Armed Forces, located on the basis of the fighter regiment in Starokonstantinov, Khmelnytsky region, the first three Bayraktar TV2 with the prospect of increasing their number to six. The total contract amount of $ 69 million provides for the acquisition of APUs as well as two ground-based guidance stations for these UAVs and the training of 50 military personnel in working with the complexes.
    it is especially dangerous for the personnel of the People’s Militia of the Republics - Bayraktar TV2, choosing an object to strike, can cruise continuously in the air for a very long time - up to a day, at a cruising speed of 130 km / h. Literally tracking down a suitable object for a strike. The maximum speed is 250 km / h. The payload is 55 kilograms, which makes it possible to attack even well-defended targets with two anti-tank missiles or one gliding bomb, without entering the destruction zone of the People’s Police at the forefront of air defense systems.
    And in October 2020, the salozhorny “Luch” is going to present to the leadership of the Ukrainian Armed Forces a prototype of the actual Ukrainian Sokol-200 type drone. If you believe the words of the general designer, the total combined weight of the guided ammunition that each Sokol-200 will carry on its board is four times that of the Turkish Bayraktar TV2 - up to 200–250 kilograms. That, if successful, will allow delivering to the object of attack not two, but four anti-tank missiles.
    Finally, the third reason for the amazingly striking work of the people of Kiev is their very obvious close cooperation with Turkish designers. As a result: the announced Sokol-200 in appearance and size is exactly the latest Turkish Anka-S strike drone (weight 1,6 tons), which Ankara completed in 2017. Some differences except in the form of flaps. And so - even the payload of both UAVs is exactly the same. That suggests: in fact, in Ukraine they do not create their own high-precision weapons, but they are going to covertly establish a “screwdriver” assembly of the Turkish drone under their own proud name. Moreover, the most important components of Sokol-200 will continue to come from the opposite shore of the Black Sea.
    Thus, if the announced systems in the near future really appear in the Ukrainian army in the Donbass, the war there may acquire a new, much more dangerous quality. And then the losses of the defenders of LDNR to the delight of Kiev will increase sharply.
    And Peskov is still laughing.
    As in February 2014.
    I wonder what he paints with a mustache?
    1. Mik1701
      Mik1701 6 July 2020 22: 20 New
      0
      Definitely not green!
    2. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 7 July 2020 09: 07 New
      0
      shmona drones ..... they still need to enter the MANPAD shelling zone and there will be an unexpected person here, it will be possible to fill such a drone shmon not only from the Needle but from the ancient Arrow-2, evil tongues say that DNR people still and the Wasp is .... so let’s let it accumulate trash since aviation is tight
  • rruvim
    rruvim 6 July 2020 23: 03 New
    -1
    Peskov, as a "talking head," always "knows nothing." And in general: how much you can "chew snot." Attach, and all !!!
  • yfast
    yfast 7 July 2020 00: 07 New
    0
    It was high time, but the point is already playing. 2014 saw both sides (growing and local). There it was still possible Zaporizhzhya region and the region of the son you yourself know who to attach. But too many foreign properties are our modesty from the authorities to do something now.
  • HUNTERDON
    HUNTERDON 7 July 2020 00: 32 New
    0
    question? and why?
  • yfast
    yfast 7 July 2020 00: 50 New
    0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53V9Vo0f5wk&list=RDt2W47fpL7pI&index=18
  • KOH
    KOH 7 July 2020 08: 08 New
    0
    Yeah! What a spokesman, what a president, they are worthy of each other ...)))
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 7 July 2020 08: 48 New
    0
    Well, why do we need such a sand ?? Why do we feed him ??
    Everyone heard, but he again did not hear anything .. Bring a new one ..
  • ZVS
    ZVS 7 July 2020 11: 00 New
    0
    It would be right to say that the Kremlin DOES NOT WANT TO HEAR about the desire of the DLNR - the primordially Russian lands to join Russia.
  • Wizzzard
    Wizzzard 7 July 2020 17: 03 New
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Svarog
    And you obviously have so much to share ..

    It’s not Putin’s saying, but Peskov. The VVP has said more than once that sometimes Peskov blurs such a thing that you throw a grenade at the carcasses. So what did Putin not please you here?

    Pleased, pleased. He’s good to everyone and he’s all around. But even that has long been known that many things that the GDP itself would not want to say out loud (sometimes, by the way, an outright blizzard) are voiced by its regular “pressurizer”, Mr. Peskov. Here is such an ungrateful work ...