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Bundestag deputy: You can criticize Putin, but you can not neglect the interests of Russia

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It is possible and necessary to criticize Putin, but you should not neglect Russia and ignore its interests. Especially now, when after voting on amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, his power in the country and influence in the world have strengthened.


This is discussed by a member of the Bundestag and one of the leaders of the German "Left Party" Gregor Gisi in an interview with Deutschlandfunk radio station.

After the overwhelming majority of Russians have approved the amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the incumbent President Vladimir Putin has the opportunity to run for the next election twice more. Thus, if he nominates himself and can win, he will remain in power until 2036.

Gizi calls this move of Putin “a clever maneuver”, because the restriction on two presidential terms remains, but the previous terms of the current head of state do not count. According to the German politician, he could be envied by Donald Trump, who would also like to remain president forever.

A recent vote confirmed that the rating of confidence in Putin in the country remains high. According to Gizi, perhaps this does not apply to megacities such as Moscow or St. Petersburg, but in the regions the majority of Russians support his policy.

Russia and its leader have become even stronger. This also indicates that external pressure from Western countries on the Russian Federation is not bearing fruit.

For some reason, they rarely mention that Putin back in 2001 was open to rapprochement with the West. He offered cooperation in economics, politics, culture, and was even ready for the interaction of special services and the armed forces. But the West behaved arrogantly, which caused a cooling of relations.

The pressure policy not only does not help, but even forces Russia to develop in those industries that were previously in a "hibernation mode". Gizi believes that it is time to lift the sanctions and regain mutual trust between Russia and the West:

We must warn Putin of certain things, but he must be sure that we will no longer push him into the background, we will not constantly deploy our military at his borders and the like. This is not now. No relationship based on trust.



According to Gizi, if the West takes steps towards Putin, then Putin will go towards the West.
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  1. NDR-791
    NDR-791 6 July 2020 09: 54 New
    10
    We must warn Putin of certain things, but he must be sure that we will no longer push him into the background, we will not constantly deploy our military at his borders and the like.
    Already does not work. The GDP has a very good memory for those who threw it or tried. He will work with THESE people and will not agree on anything.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 6 July 2020 09: 56 New
      +9
      The GDP has a very good memory for those who threw it or tried.

      I’m not sure that I can name at least a few names of leaders of countries who did not throw or did not try to throw.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 6 July 2020 10: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Pereira
        I’m not sure that I can name at least a few names of leaders of countries who did not throw or did not try to throw.

        Their nature is so ...
      2. NDR-791
        NDR-791 6 July 2020 10: 07 New
        +9
        I’m not sure that I can name at least a few names of leaders of countries who did not throw or did not try to throw
        I am not a fan of GDP, but with all the minuses I’m sure that for example Mishiko he will not give a hand. But with EBNe and Gorbi, all the more, there was no such confidence.
      3. 4ekist
        4ekist 6 July 2020 10: 56 New
        +6
        GDP just doesn’t do anything, and its memory is good.
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 July 2020 14: 02 New
          +2
          Quote: 4ekist
          GDP just doesn’t do anything, and its memory is good.


          Yeah, everyone still comes around ...
      4. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 6 July 2020 14: 41 New
        +1
        Cuba. We threw it. Continue to continue?
        1. 4ekist
          4ekist 6 July 2020 14: 54 New
          +1
          Under Gorbachev and Yeltsin, they threw everything that was possible; the Russian Federation was on the verge of collapse. Nobody remembered about Cuba (and not only), the list goes on and on. Remember the "fraternal" socialist and communist parties and movements of Europe, Africa and Latin America.
        2. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 6 July 2020 19: 28 New
          +1
          V. Putin forgave Cuba $ 32 - data borrowed from the USSR. And they could "pay" the base in Lourdes from this debt ... as far as I remember, they paid up to $ 000 a year for Lourdes (consider how much would be enough ...). For example, interest on debt for a base in Lourdes.
          1. Sergey Averchenkov
            Sergey Averchenkov 6 July 2020 23: 26 New
            0
            Big politics is adult games. And what do you think, would we get this money back? If Putin hadn’t forgiven?
            1. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 6 July 2020 23: 31 New
              0
              I suggested the following: Cuba does not have $, then Cuba does not levy a rent for the base in Ludes from Russia until it repays the debt. Do you agree? - base in Lourdes in return for debt ...
              1. Sergey Averchenkov
                Sergey Averchenkov 7 July 2020 00: 27 New
                0
                I agree. There are even no questions.
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 6 July 2020 10: 46 New
      +3
      carbon turns into diamond under high pressure
      1. AUL
        AUL 6 July 2020 11: 08 New
        -3
        I’ll quote the favorite statement of the apologists to zero - if the West praises us, then something is wrong!
        1. nPuBaTuP
          nPuBaTuP 6 July 2020 11: 16 New
          +6
          One laudatory ode, this is not the whole west
        2. orionvitt
          orionvitt 6 July 2020 12: 29 New
          10
          Quote: AUL
          if the west praises us, then something is wrong!

          And where did you see the praise of Russia in the article? The deputy did not praise Russia, but criticized Western policy towards Russia. It is clearly and clearly stated that Russia is such, because, firstly, it is what it is, and secondly, the West itself is pushing it towards unpopular steps in the West. In a word, the third law of dynamics is "Every action causes equal opposition." So, the more they press, the more they will be surprised.
          1. AUL
            AUL 6 July 2020 16: 33 New
            -2
            Quote: orionvitt
            In a word, the third law of dynamics is "Every action causes equal opposition."

            Well, actually, the second law. The third is MV = Ft. Learn physics. Well this is so, by the way.
            Especially now, when after voting on amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, his power in the country and influence in the world have strengthened.
            This, in your opinion, is not praise to our guarantor? Well, the rest of the thesis is also quite positive. Does this bother you? wassat
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 6 July 2020 21: 41 New
              0
              Actually the third law
              Learn physics. But okay. Concerning
              Quote: AUL
              Well, the rest of the thesis is also quite positive. Does this bother you?
              No, not alarming. This is the "cry of the soul" of the West, whose economy, during the crisis, is gradually stagnating. The main thesis of the article is that sanctions and an aggressive economic policy against Russia have hit primarily the west itself. But it was not the politicians who earn money, so to speak, by the mouth, but entrepreneurs who had real economic ties with Russia. In general, the reasoning of this deputy is simply the voice of common sense, which does not fit into the general (rather absurd) Western political trend. Which once again shows that politics is not all rational.
    3. BecmepH
      BecmepH 6 July 2020 17: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: NDR-791
      Already does not work. The GDP has a very good memory for those who threw it or tried. He will work with THESE people and will not agree on anything.

      Yeah ... our plane shot down in Turkey is a confirmation of this ...
      1. VIP
        VIP 6 July 2020 20: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: BecmepH
        Quote: NDR-791
        Already does not work. The GDP has a very good memory for those who threw it or tried. He will work with THESE people and will not agree on anything.

        Yeah ... our plane shot down in Turkey is a confirmation of this ...

        It was necessary to declare war on Turkey and start TMV. In order to firmly put in place whoever is needed or to enter into a “position” on the back, iron balls and a big mind are needed, and I doubt that Putin has it all
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 7 July 2020 17: 29 New
          0
          Quote: VIP
          It was necessary to declare war on Turkey and start TMV. In order to firmly put in place whoever is needed or to enter into a “position” on the back, iron balls and a big mind are needed, and I doubt that Putin has it all

          They are us with a rocket, and we, having entered their position, with tomatoes, tomatoes ... Incidentally, it was not a drone that was shot down. What would you say if, God forbid, your brother (father, son) was on that plane ...?
          I know !!! Say that the interests of the state are above all! So?))
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 6 July 2020 10: 02 New
    +6
    We must warn Putin of certain things, but he must be sure that we will no longer push him into the background,

    The question is, they didn’t succeed in pushing Russia and its leader into the foreground for some reason ... but now how do they imagine it ??? They seriously believe that for Russia their opinion is crucial ???
    It is time for them to WAKE UP and not to stomp on the same old rake that they are slipping from the islands.
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 6 July 2020 11: 02 New
      +3
      It's not about GDP or Germany .. Germany is faced with the task of freeing itself from the American occupation and American dictatorship on all aspects of life — the economy. politics. military sphere .... Then their politicians will have the power
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 July 2020 11: 32 New
        +2
        It is always easier to sell than free later.
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 July 2020 13: 59 New
          +3
          They have a slightly different situation, but only we can help them and they know this ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 July 2020 14: 35 New
            0
            In general, they have completely different politicians / ruling now. Those who put in a situation, they are not already. so sho they could have been different, but did not want to see.
            1. cniza
              cniza 6 July 2020 16: 00 New
              +2
              They didn’t want to, or they were seized on a leash, but we see the result.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 6 July 2020 18: 43 New
                +1
                The most important thing is the result. There is no arguing.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 6 July 2020 20: 40 New
                  +2
                  And the result is not just words yet, but it all starts with the word ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 7 July 2020 06: 42 New
                    +1
                    You have to look at words ... in different ways. They can do it, they can chat.
    2. cniza
      cniza 6 July 2020 14: 00 New
      +2
      It is time for them to WAKE UP and not to stomp on the same old rake that they are slipping from the islands.


      There is a hope that all the same they will ripen ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 July 2020 14: 36 New
        +1
        They got a good kick from behind the okey and will still get it! As if after that, at least some kind of measures should be taken ... now let's see if they are suitable for sho.
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 July 2020 16: 04 New
          +2
          They do not have a strong politician who could organize Europe and put the United States in its place, but it will certainly appear ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 July 2020 18: 45 New
            +1
            There should be a request for such a policy from one of the parties involved in the process.
            1. cniza
              cniza 6 July 2020 20: 43 New
              +2
              It's not just a request already, a cry ....
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 7 July 2020 06: 49 New
                +1
                Quote: cniza
                It's not just a request already, a cry ....

                And where is the voice, the cry of the people and others listening, hearing, straight necessarily, necessarily? Nowhere! Only to the extremes, when they already have THERE will have the nth point!
  3. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 6 July 2020 10: 05 New
    +4
    Sound thoughts ... but for the German and the representative of the West it’s generally progress))) ... but mentoring (we must warn Putin ... from certain things) and rejection of realities (fantasies about the voting of Moscow and St. Petersburg that are for and for even in electronic form) annoying and says how far they are from equal partnership ...
    We won’t get around like that))) ... and after the admission of the states of our borderlands to NATO (return the situation at the time of 1991 ... then we'll see) ... rather this is some kind of attempt to understand how to live / be with Russia ...
    1. Rusland
      Rusland 6 July 2020 10: 14 New
      +2
      More positive from the Germans lately. Well, since we haven’t historically thrown a single prince there, Germans and princesses, as though they were smart, have something to remember and who to take off our hat to. yes
  4. Kurare
    Kurare 6 July 2020 10: 19 New
    +6
    Gizi's statements are certainly good, but, this is a "second-rate" politician. He actually left central roles in his party and in the Bundestag. A magnificent speaker who can put in the belt many representatives of the first violin of German politics. But - this is not the "voice of Germany."
    1. A good one
      A good one 6 July 2020 10: 34 New
      +1
      Yes, but still. Cricket also fulfills its natural destiny at night, someone loves it, and someone annoys it. smile Politicians, albeit forgotten by someone, can be at the crest of a wave at any moment.
      1. Kurare
        Kurare 6 July 2020 11: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: Not bad
        Politicians, albeit forgotten by someone, can be at the crest of a wave at any moment.

        If you talk about Gizi, then definitely not. Yes, he still has weight. But he doesn’t do any weather.
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 6 July 2020 10: 35 New
    0
    Back in 2001, Putin was open to rapprochement with the West "On ratification of the Agreement between the states parties to the North Atlantic Treaty and other states participating in the Partnership for Peace program, on the status of their Forces of June 19, 1995 and its Additional Protocol." .. very interesting document
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 6 July 2020 10: 54 New
      +1
      Federal law of 7 June 2007 g. N 99-FZ
      "On ratification of the Agreement between the states parties to the North Atlantic Treaty and other states participating in the Partnership for Peace program, on the status of their Forces of June 19, 1995 and its Additional Protocol" Adopted by the State Duma on May 23, 2007
      Approved by the Federation Council on 25 on May 2007
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 July 2020 10: 40 New
    +3
    All of them are reasonable there when not in power. It seems that when they get to the higher echelons, they all do a lobotomy. And they implant Russophobia in the brain ...
    1. Asad
      Asad 6 July 2020 11: 15 New
      0
      That's for sure! As retirement or resignation immediately Russophobia passes.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 July 2020 10: 46 New
    +4
    Russia should not be neglected and its interests not taken into account
    The German left has been talking about this for a long time, repeatedly offering to lift sanctions against Russia and explaining their detriment to Germany itself. But they still don’t want to hear this voice, besides Ukraine is hanging on its feet, which is high time to throw it off, but political ambitions and a false sense of solidarity do not allow this to be done. Therefore, everything is as it is.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 July 2020 13: 56 New
      +1
      Until they resolve issues with the United States, they won’t do anything ...
  8. Klingon
    Klingon 6 July 2020 10: 51 New
    +2
    Quote: Pereira
    The GDP has a very good memory for those who threw it or tried.

    I’m not sure that I can name at least a few names of leaders of countries who did not throw or did not try to throw.

    Schroeder wink
  9. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 6 July 2020 10: 59 New
    -3
    You can criticize Putin, but you can not neglect the interests of Russia

    Now we need to prove with examples and facts that Putin’s interests are connected with the well-being and prosperity of Russia.
    A recent vote confirmed that the rating of confidence in Putin in the country remains high.

    Eternal power brought on bayonets of an administrative resource? Everyone understands that voting on the amendments legally yielded nothing. The referendum gives confidence, and not auto-voting stretched out in time and in the luggage racks.
    It is clear why the reincarnation of Chernomyrdin is so happy. Only he forgot that the Russian is good, the German - death. And, with regard to trust, so, after voicing the need for pension reform and independently invented and adopted amendments to the constitution, it grows stronger day by day ... wassat
  10. Al Asad
    Al Asad 6 July 2020 11: 11 New
    -3
    Putin of 2020 is already more a populist than a politician. Unfortunately
    Pension reform, constant inventing and increasing existing taxes-indirect and direct, amending the Constitution, which he promised not to change for himself. He doesn’t paint all this. Apparently I’m sure that he will not be re-elected for the next term
  11. Astra wild
    Astra wild 6 July 2020 11: 14 New
    +1
    Ger Gisi is a sensible man. But not everyone wants to see it.
    In Kiev they will say that this is not the right German.
  12. Astra wild
    Astra wild 6 July 2020 11: 19 New
    +1
    Quote: Kurare
    Gizi's statements are certainly good, but, this is a "second-rate" politician. He actually left central roles in his party and in the Bundestag. A magnificent speaker who can put in the belt many representatives of the first violin of German politics. But - this is not the "voice of Germany."

    And who is the "voice of Germany" - Fra Merkel?
  13. meandr51
    meandr51 6 July 2020 11: 28 New
    0
    This Russia warns the geyroprey from interference in the internal affairs of Russia. You still tell us that Crimea and Ukraine are German ...
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 6 July 2020 11: 36 New
    +3
    So Putin has been hammering the West with this idea since February 10, 2007, when he delivered his speech in Munich. But only now in the West they began to understand that Russia can have its own interests? I think they just don’t know how to answer the Petrel and Poseidon, confirming the interests of Russia. If they could, they would kneel us for the second, third time, as in the 90th
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 July 2020 13: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      I think they just don’t know how to answer the Petrel and Poseidon, confirming the interests of Russia. If they could, they would kneel us for the second, third time, as in the 90th


      So far, only howls are heard, all events will begin after the US election.
  15. demo
    demo 6 July 2020 11: 57 New
    0
    It is possible and necessary to criticize Putin, but you should not neglect Russia and ignore its interests. Especially now, when after voting on amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, his power in the country and influence in the world have strengthened.

    Putin’s power was almost absolute even before the Constitution was amended.
    So the introduction of amendments, one of which is the cancellation of the term of the presidency, cannot be considered an increase in power.
    But at the expense of influence in the world, the one here, excuse me, but this is completely absurd.
    Whom have we not yet influenced?
    In the United States have provided.
    In the EU have provided.
    So it turned out that the imposition of sanctions against the Russian Federation became for many a national fun.
    African countries had a very strong influence.
    An effect such as writing off debts is generally enchanting nonsense.
    We have a very serious impact on Japan.
    Previously, when they did not influence, she didn’t open her mouth about the Kuril Islands.
    And with increasing influence, the Japanese are in ecstasy struggling from the prospect of getting islands.

    I could continue to list Putin’s increased influence in the world, but I don’t want to be upset.
  16. Umalta
    Umalta 6 July 2020 12: 05 New
    0
    Never, never will the Anglo-Saxons go for real cooperation !!! If they are forced to conclude a contract that is at least somewhat beneficial for the Russian Federation, then in the future, if circumstances change, they will certainly withdraw from it unilaterally. Contracts are possible only with two countries of the West - Germany and France.
  17. Roman123567
    Roman123567 6 July 2020 12: 06 New
    0
    Gizi calls Putin’s move “a clever maneuver”


    is conducted for money, and is often a form of fraud, because, despite the player’s attention, sleight of hand allows the presenter to hide the ball, removing it from under the thimble. Manipulations are based on the so-called "deceptive passions."
  18. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 6 July 2020 12: 15 New
    -3
    This is argued by one of the leaders of the German "Left party"....

    laughing laughing laughing
    This is about the same if Zyuganov began to praise or criticize Putin. " lol Therefore, this event is clearly worthy of an article in honor of Zero, as well as a discussion of it.
    PR is such a comprehensive business. lol
  19. zwlad
    zwlad 6 July 2020 12: 44 New
    +1
    Russia and its leader have become even stronger. This also indicates that external pressure from Western countries on the Russian Federation is not bearing fruit.

    I do not agree. Even as it bears fruit. Thanks to sanctions, Russia is becoming even stronger. And the pink veil from the eyes in relation to the West fell for some.
    Still would aliens from power to drive.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 July 2020 13: 19 New
      +1
      And the pink veil from the eyes in relation to the West fell for some.


      It is a pity that only some ...
  20. Cotton Colorado
    Cotton Colorado 6 July 2020 13: 05 New
    0
    Quote: Not bad
    Yes, but still. Cricket also fulfills its natural destiny at night, someone loves it, and someone annoys it. smile Politicians, albeit forgotten by someone, can be at the crest of a wave at any moment.

    Nemtsov is a prime example!
  21. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 6 July 2020 14: 42 New
    +3
    Back in 2018, Xi Jin Ping “reset”. Naturally, in the context of a hybrid war with the United States, Putin also went to zero, since China needs a reliable ally in the fight against hegemon, just like Russia. And start the elections with re-elections, in which the State Department’s long arm will take part, an orange mess is ensured, which is what the Nuggosaks need. Pin Dos Tang was deprived of such a pleasure by a nullification deadline. Mask to help him ...
    In general, the impression is that this is not Trump on the eve of the re-election, but Putin.
    Dear, there are FOUR years before the elections of 2024! These will be the most difficult years of the progress of the country and people along the path of sovereignty in the conditions of the greatest possible opposition from the US and NATO metropolis. Well, if you do without a large-scale biological war ...
    Look at the root, if we survive then and only then VOTE and choose the President.
    1. zwlad
      zwlad 6 July 2020 14: 59 New
      +1
      Well, if you do without a large-scale biological war ...

      Do not you think that it is already underway?
      Avian influenza, SARS, covid-19?
      1. cniza
        cniza 6 July 2020 17: 26 New
        +1
        While the rehearsal is in progress, everything complicated is yet to come.
  22. Imperial Technocrat
    Imperial Technocrat 6 July 2020 15: 01 New
    +1
    Denial anger depression bargaining acceptance
    Now the West is in the bargaining phase
  23. Usher
    Usher 6 July 2020 15: 37 New
    0
    Previously, one had to say such words)
  24. Fan
    Fan 6 July 2020 16: 59 New
    -2
    Especially now, when after voting on amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, his power in the country and influence in the world have strengthened.

    The more demshiz howls at Putin, the more people believe in him .. This has been proven more than once.!
    The advice is free to neolibers .. Want to dump the GDP, let it be praised by the Echo and the State Department ..)))) And it won’t last a year .. hi wassat
    1. dauria
      dauria 6 July 2020 18: 45 New
      +1
      let him begin to praise the "Echo" and the State Department ..)))) And the year will not last ..


      Why should the State Department or Echo change Putin? Its in the board, the screen of the oligarchy. Everyone is full, satisfied. The people are proud of him and love him laughing And then some Stalin will come, not far from trouble.
  25. faterdom
    faterdom 6 July 2020 18: 57 New
    0
    It's not about Putin. And in Germany - it’s time to scratch her turnip - either she is an actor in world politics, or will roll down the path of Great Britain to the second echelon of the still developed countries - subsidizing US Wishlist. There was no third way left for her - Southeast Asia will soon get ahead of the old "golden billion" in everything, with or without America.
    And Russia - the owner of the golden share - for Germany for sure. May help stay in the lead. Or it may not help.
    But it’s not for Germany to judge our behavior, it’s for itself to decide on itself - nothing more.
    We forgave her a lot of things, gave a lot of things - and this is not good for us. So, from now on, we should not expect such a line of behavior from us in the next thousand years.
    And German politicians on this subject should not worry anymore - we are no longer very interested in this.
  26. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 July 2020 19: 25 New
    +2
    laughing The pastor of the Evangelical Theological Academy of Hamburg, Ulrich Hentschel, proposed to cut his head to the monument to the "iron chancellor" of Germany Otto von Bismarck in Hamburg. “It is extremely important to break down the monumentality and strength of this monument,” the pastor pointed out. “In the end, old Bismarck should no longer dominate his heroic pose with the Hamburg sword.” ..... Bismaryaku - on a dime! laughing Source (in German)
    https://jungefreiheit.de/kultur/gesellschaft/2020/hamburger-bismarckdenkmal-soll-kopf-verlieren/ А вы договариваться с обезьянами. laughing
  27. iouris
    iouris 6 July 2020 21: 11 New
    -1
    "... if the West takes steps towards Putin, then Putin will go towards the West."
    "East is East and West is West. And they will never meet." (Ochstaraya British imperial wisdom).
    "If the mountain does not go to Magomed, then Magomed will go to the mountain." (Ochstaraya Oriental Wisdom)
  28. Tota
    Tota 7 July 2020 06: 00 New
    0
    Hmm, they still have a sane policy. That's just a pity, there are few of them
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  30. VIP
    VIP 7 July 2020 21: 51 New
    0
    Quote: cniza
    And the pink veil from the eyes in relation to the West fell for some.


    It is a pity that only some ...

    That's for sure: unfortunately not everyone has seen. Some people want to believe in fairy tales and look at the world through pink or black glasses, and the world consists of many shades
  31. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 8 July 2020 02: 45 New
    0
    do you even fart, just say what you want ?!