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How America will fall apart: on the likelihood of US collapse scenarios

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In the light of recent events in the United States on the global network more and more often there are discussions about the upcoming collapse of a single American state. The situation in the States is really complicated, but are there any prerequisites for a real state collapse?


America is ruining the political course of trump


One of the first to break up the United States was predicted by Norwegian professor Johan Galtung. He is called the "Second Nostradamus", but in fact Galtung is not a stargazer or an astrologer, but a sociologist and mathematician, and he substantiates his conclusions based on an analysis of the political and economic situation in the USA and in the world as a whole. At one time, Galtung was able to predict the collapse of the Soviet Union and even the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York. According to the Norwegian professor, the policy of the current US President Donald Trump leads to the collapse of American statehood. Galtung believes that by 2025 the United States will cease to exist as a single state.

Le Figaro columnist Nicolas Bavre reiterates Johan Galtung's thesis about the perniciousness of Trump's political course for the United States. According to the French author, the United States is waiting for the sad fate of the USSR. Now the American state is experiencing 4 crises at once - the consequences of the coronavirus pandemic, rising mass unemployment, falling GDP and riots in the African American population.

Trump, oppressing Congress and law enforcement agencies, destroys the two-century system of counterbalances and preserving democracy, and since his main rival, Joe Biden, has less chance of winning the presidential election, it is possible that Trump will again become the head of state and continue his disastrous course .

Russian experts see explosive potential in the racial and ethnic structure of American society. So, according to the assistant professor of Moscow State University Alexei Fenenko, the persistence with which the protesters demolish monuments to the founders and outstanding leaders of the American state indicates that they do not consider this state to be their own. The United States follows the path of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the American left-liberal intelligentsia, supporting the protests of African Americans, repeats the mistakes of Russian revolutionaries of the early twentieth century, who supported the separatist movements of the national suburbs - Polish, Baltic, Georgian, Little Russian. How it ended in the Russian Empire, everyone also knows.

US collapse is unlikely to be ethnic or even racial


However, the collapse of the United States on racial and, especially, ethnic grounds, is still unlikely. If we talk about the numerous ethnic groups of the United States, then none of them, if we do not take into account the Indians of the reservations, does not have a clear territory on which a new state could be created, and, most importantly, legitimate grounds for its creation. The only impressive population that can claim their own state can be African-Americans, most of whom are concentrated in the southern states.


However, the ghetto marginals and even the young radical politicians who led them are not capable of creating their own state. If such a political union appears, it will be a new Haiti or a new Liberia, only already in Louisiana or Mississippi. The socially prosperous part of the African American population is unlikely to like such a prospect; rather, she wants to reconsider her social position within the United States in its current form, without ruining a powerful state. Indeed, being a senator of the United States or a senator of the “new Haiti” is a bit different things.

A more likely scenario for the collapse of the United States, if it does happen, could be a split of the country into several states on a political basis. One state (or states) will include states with a predominance of leftist democrats in power structures, and will be distinguished by a more liberal or even leftist policy, a significant role for African Americans in governance, the formation of a new ideology, possibly even denying the old pillars of American statehood.

In another state where the “Trump course” will continue, right-wing Republicans, white nationalists will dominate, although in modern conditions such a state will not be able to do without the participation of African Americans in governance, it will simply be smaller than in the “democratic” states, and the ideology of this states (or states) will more likely inherit the traditions of old American statehood. There will be no purely racial split; whites and African-Americans will live in both “democratic” and “republican” states.


As for the Latin American part of the US population, it will also be distributed between these new states if they appear. Of course, there will be no discussion of the return of Texas or California to Mexico, as well as the creation of some kind of “Latin” state formations: the new Honduras and El Salvador in the North American states are no better prospects than the new Haiti and Liberia.

Thus, although it is not worthwhile to argue about the collapse of the United States as a guaranteed scenario, it should not be ruled out either. But if it happens, then its "architects" will not be the street leaders of African Americans, but representatives of the same American elite who do not want to strengthen Trump's power. The very model of a bipartisan political system that has been considered the foundation of American stability for more than a century, this time could be a destructive factor for the future of the United States as a single state.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 6 July 2020 09: 22 New
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    In the light of recent events in the United States on the global network more and more often there are discussions about the upcoming collapse of a single American state.
    Well, there is little to count on. But the fact that the scenario of riots is very similar to what happened in Ukraine not long ago can be seen not with an armed eye, but if so, then what kind of SPONTANCY can be said. It is clear that these "riots" were prepared in advance and "conducted" by someone ...
    1. NIKN
      NIKN 6 July 2020 09: 27 New
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      Quote: svp67
      It is clear that these "riots" were prepared in advance and "conducted" by someone ...

      Conducted until the second war between north and south.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 6 July 2020 09: 59 New
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        Rather, before the organization of Bantustanov.
        Bantustans Washington and New Orleans, for example.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 6 July 2020 14: 35 New
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          Quote: Pereira
          Rather, before the organization of Bantustanov.
          Bantustans Washington and New Orleans, for example.

          Don't underestimate a potential adversary.
        2. Alf
          Alf 6 July 2020 18: 51 New
          +3
          Quote: Pereira
          Rather, before the organization of Bantustanov.
          Bantustans Washington and New Orleans, for example.

          That's just scary for the moment who gets a vigorous loaf. If it’s still white here and there, they’re at least a little bit sane, but if it’s for any Black Panthers ... negative
          1. Onotollah
            Onotollah 6 July 2020 19: 19 New
            +1
            Launching a rocket at targets on another continent is not chicken feet in a diner. Here you need to have high competence and coordination of actions at all levels of the army and state leadership. Most likely, the Black Monkeys will pick out the rockets and pull out fissile materials from them in order to sell them to some terrorists at a higher price. But this is already a reason to take the storage of nuclear materials and bases under "international" control.
            1. Alf
              Alf 6 July 2020 19: 29 New
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              Quote: Onotolle
              Launching a rocket at targets on another continent is not chicken feet in a diner. Here you need to have high competence and coordination of actions at all levels of the army and state leadership. Most likely, the Black Monkeys will pick out the rockets and pull out fissile materials from them in order to sell them to some terrorists at a higher price. But this is already a reason to take the storage of nuclear materials and bases under "international" control.

              And who will guarantee that there will not be someone on the "other side" who knows how to handle nuclear weapons? Yes, they will not be able to fire it up, but it will be possible to remove the warhead, but you can always find martyrs to "jerk off in honor of Allah-death to the infidels". Yes, at least stupidly to jerk on the spot is also smart enough, then no one will seem a little. And if the warhead reaches any scumbags in the form of North Korea or Iran with Pakistan, then those, knowing that nothing will happen and America no longer exists, oh how much they can do.
          2. siemens7774
            siemens7774 7 July 2020 21: 18 New
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            Alf, I somehow caught the eye of the 1979 agreement, which described the scenario for cataclysms, the collapse of the United States, and other life probabilities. It stipulates the transfer from the United States to the territory of the USSR of all atomic warheads, chemical weapons and bacteriological guarded by joint forces UN, USSR, USA to the bases of the USSR. The document is stored in the archives of the White House and the Central Library of the USA.
            1. Alf
              Alf 7 July 2020 21: 27 New
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              Quote: siemens7774
              Alf, I somehow caught the eye of the 1979 agreement, which described the scenario for cataclysms, the collapse of the United States, and other life probabilities. It stipulates the transfer from the United States to the territory of the USSR of all atomic warheads, chemical weapons and bacteriological guarded by joint forces UN, USSR, USA to the bases of the USSR. The document is stored in the archives of the White House and the Central Library of the USA.

              But now there is no USSR ... And if the Americans send their missiles to Russia, then only "on their own", which, to be honest, I would VERY NOT want.
              In addition, it follows from this document that US troops will be in OUR territory, which is also not ice.
              There was once a disaster movie, I don't remember the name, how the temperature dropped sharply in the USA and the Americans rushed to Mexico. So in the last shots the American president, referring to the Mexican, officially says, we are grateful to Mexico that she agreed to shelter us, while showing that there is a huge number of American troops on the Mexican side. It doesn’t sound like “agreed” ... But cinema is not only propaganda, but also a reflection of their thoughts and state policy.
              1. siemens7774
                siemens7774 7 July 2020 21: 29 New
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                The docks stipulated the number of not only US troops, but also the UN. In the environment and direct protection of the USSR troops.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 7 July 2020 21: 31 New
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                  Quote: siemens7774
                  The docks stipulated the number of not only US troops, but also the UN. In the environment and direct protection of the USSR troops.

                  But there is no Union ...
                  1. siemens7774
                    siemens7774 7 July 2020 21: 36 New
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                    But the Russian troops and the country are available. Accordingly, this treaty is valid further. I searched the library of the White House for new agreements on this matter, so far there is nothing. So they are valid further. No matter who is in Moscow.
                    1. Alf
                      Alf 7 July 2020 21: 41 New
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                      Quote: siemens7774
                      But the Russian troops and the country are available. Accordingly, this treaty is valid further. I searched the library of the White House for new agreements on this matter, so far there is nothing. So they are valid further. No matter who is in Moscow.

                      Quote: siemens7774
                      No matter who sits in Moscow.

                      Well, I don’t know, I personally do not believe this government 100%. If at one time we agreed to Ulyanovsk with the right of extraterritoriality ...
                      Quote: siemens7774
                      Accordingly, this agreement is valid further.

                      And in the contract of the 79th year the term of the contract is indicated? If the deadline is indicated, then what?
                      1. siemens7774
                        siemens7774 7 July 2020 21: 47 New
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                        The fact of the matter is that the time limit is not limited in time. For fleet relocation of products, all transport planes and ships of all the leading countries of the world will be used. The contract does not specify England and Germany for storage of products. These countries do not have the capacity to store especially dangerous ammunition .
                      2. Alf
                        Alf 7 July 2020 21: 49 New
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                        Quote: siemens7774
                        The fact of the matter is that the period is not limited in time.

                        Do you SEE this wording in the document or THINK that it is there?
                      3. siemens7774
                        siemens7774 7 July 2020 21: 52 New
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                        Go to the White House library or the central library of the United States. But there you need to dump a little money for information and a lot of money for printing docks and sending it to the visitor.
                      4. Alf
                        Alf 7 July 2020 21: 55 New
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                        Quote: siemens7774
                        Go to the White House library or the central library of the United States. But there you need to dump a little money for information and a lot of money for printing docks and sending it to the visitor.

                        On the one hand, the toad smothers, on the other, you too lazy to answer? I trust you and do not require photocopies of documents, although the document is very interesting.
                      5. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 7 July 2020 23: 54 New
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                        Quote: Alf
                        the document is very interesting.

                        And on the other hand, there are no guarantees that the anarchists who came to power will implement these documents. It is very tempting to have a vigorous club.
                      6. Alf
                        Alf 8 July 2020 19: 20 New
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                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        And on the other hand, there are no guarantees that the anarchists who came to power will implement these documents. It is very tempting to have a vigorous club.

                        Bingo! The question is, will they have time to take out or not?
                    2. siemens7774
                      siemens7774 11 July 2020 14: 19 New
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                      Alf. I am very sorry that I did not scan many docks. Although there are books on this topic published in Moscow. For some reason, books were removed from Moscow libraries. Especially in the nineties.
                    3. Alf
                      Alf 11 July 2020 17: 15 New
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                      Quote: siemens7774
                      For some reason, books were removed from Moscow libraries.

                      So that people do not upset ahead of time.
                    4. siemens7774
                      siemens7774 18 July 2020 19: 49 New
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                      Well, as it turned out later, they were seized by the Yeltsinoids.
        3. your1970
          your1970 11 July 2020 08: 57 New
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          Quote: Alf
          If at one time we agreed to Ulyanovsk with the right of extraterritoriality ...

          What kind of extraterritoriality ??? !! belay belay fool fool
          I listened to the ravings of mentally absolutely inadequate people ....

          By agreement, US transporters transporting equipment from Afghanistan received the right to board, refuel, receive flight information and fly away. .. All!!!
          The plane had the right to leave 2 people - FAC and co-pilot. They controlled all actions for refueling and servicing the side.
          When moving, they were accompanied by border guards, customs officers controlled the board in the parking lot ...
          They did not even create a customs control zone.
          They made 5 flights, but since ours got a frantic price lol for the service, they found it cheaper to drop everything in Afghanistan.
          Well, at the same time, they covered up their embezzlement a little- "Damned Russia did not let us take out the equipment, otherwise we would have reported to the penny ..."

          Z. S. Naturally, any plane or ship has the right of extraterritoriality ..
          But then, according to the logic of the Communist Party (though there is no logic there!) - every air show in France we have a military base with extraterritoriality in Le Bourget belay there a bunch of our sides are sitting, and crews are walking across the territory
        4. Alf
          Alf 11 July 2020 17: 44 New
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          Quote: your1970
          What nafig extraterritoriality ???!

        5. your1970
          your1970 12 July 2020 00: 13 New
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          Oh yes !!!! "410940" ...
          you are from the same sect ....
          1) To begin with, then quote correctly - "410940-4"and this is NOT a Law - but a bill
          "Lies and lies again"
          2) Federal Law No. 7-FZ of June 2007, 99 "On the Ratification of the Agreement between the States Parties to the North Atlantic Treaty and other States participating in the Partnership for Peace" program, on the status of their Forces dated June 19, 1995, and the Additional Protocol to him "- and so there is no immunity from criminal prosecution in him, at all ...
          Agreement:
          1. In accordance with the provisions of this article:
          a) directing military authorities States have the right to fully exercise in the territory of the host state the criminal and disciplinary jurisdiction granted to them under the laws of the sending state, in relation to all persons to whom the action applies military the rights of this state;
          b) authorities host States have jurisdiction over military forces or employees of the civilian component, as well as their dependents in cases of offenses committed within the territory of the host state and punishable under the laws of that state.

          This p. A was confused by weak minds who did not want to read the normative ..... but none of them noticed that the USA got the right to punish its MILITARY criminals - deserters and spies, no more. But our right to punish All according to the law of our state, it remains in force according to paragraph B

          5.
          a) Authorities receiving and directing States shall assist each other in the arrest of members of the Force or members of the civilian component or their dependents in the territory of the host State; and in transferring them to the authorities, which must exercise jurisdiction in accordance with the foregoing provisions.
          b) The authorities of the receiving State shall immediately notify the military authorities of the sending State of the arrest of any member of the Force or a member of the civilian component or dependent.
          (c) The detention of an accused member of the Force or a civilian component of the jurisdiction over which the receiving state exercises jurisdiction guide (!!!) state implemented by that state until indictment by host state.

          and again
          "Lies and lies again" - for they did not read ...

          now in transit
          "The transit of these goods and vehicles is carried out in accordance with the customs legislation of the Russian Federation." - customs legislation in this matter is unambiguous - sat down, refueled, flew away
          Moreover
          "Nothing in Article XI, including paragraphs 3 and 8, do not limit the right of the customs authorities of the Russian Federation to take all necessary measures to monitor compliance with the conditions for the import of goods and vehicles provided for in Article XI of the Agreement, if such measures are necessary in accordance with the customs legislation of the Russian Federation.

          These are the tricks of the Ulyanovsk communists then, and then also the oligarch candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation — they killed in me hope and faith that at least something worthwhile would come out of these communists.
  • Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 7 July 2020 23: 32 New
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    An excellent film, by the way. Called - The Day After Tomorrow.
    1. Alf
      Alf 8 July 2020 19: 22 New
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      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      An excellent film, by the way. Called - The Day After Tomorrow.

      hi
  • Archon
    Archon 11 July 2020 14: 11 New
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    That would be to see the original.
  • svp67
    svp67 6 July 2020 10: 21 New
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    Quote: NIKNN
    Conducted until the second war between north and south.

    It’s just not clear who will be there ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 6 July 2020 12: 55 New
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      Quote: svp67
      It’s just not clear who will be there ...

      Who wouldn't be there! The main thing is to fall apart and "the wolves ate each other out of fright." Hurry up.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 6 July 2020 14: 37 New
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        Quote: Egoza
        Who wouldn't be there! The main thing is to fall apart and "the wolves ate each other out of fright." Hurry up.

        You should not hope so.
      2. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 6 July 2020 20: 37 New
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        Quote: Egoza
        Who wouldn't be there! The main thing is to fall apart and "the wolves ate each other out of fright." Hurry up.

        we must not forget that the collapse of America, among other things, will mean an acute economic and, as a consequence, political crisis in many countries of the world.
        as already said - woe to the one living during the changes.

        then of course everything will settle down, but this is no longer with us.
      3. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 8 July 2020 15: 37 New
        +1
        They have very difficult times now, they have to push and pull everywhere "where it is thin" and in our country nobody seems to be acting in this direction, which cannot but upset.
      4. your1970
        your1970 11 July 2020 09: 07 New
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        Quote: Egoza
        Hurry up

        Let them eat, this is in our favor. But if they start to fall apart, it will be the most acute global financial and economic crisis. The whole world holds part or even all of gold and foreign currency reserves in dollars. And it is extremely disadvantageous for us if suddenly Germany without gold loses Amer’s candy wrappers (and the Euro will depreciate sharply) - it will not be able to pay for gas ....
        About any shuzhgal like psheks and limitrophs, even no conversation, no, their serious boys will not even let the porch with their outstretched hands
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 6 July 2020 14: 45 New
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      Quote: svp67
      Quote: NIKNN
      Conducted until the second war between north and south.

      It’s just not clear who will be there ...

      No. It’s not clear yet, but for sure, there are those who want to head their own state, albeit a small
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  • NF68
    NF68 7 July 2020 16: 33 New
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    Quote: NIKNN
    Quote: svp67
    It is clear that these "riots" were prepared in advance and "conducted" by someone ...

    Conducted until the second war between north and south.


    Rather, before the war between white and black.
  • To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 6 July 2020 09: 42 New
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    "It is clear that these" riots "were prepared in advance and were being" conducted "by someone ...
    Someone inside the US? Or from outside?
    If inside the USA, then they will die out on command ..
    1. svp67
      svp67 6 July 2020 11: 49 New
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      Quote: To be or not to be
      If inside the USA, then they will die out on command ..

      It remains to understand the goals of the "conductor"
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 6 July 2020 11: 58 New
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        The goals are clear .. If the internal conductor is to create trump difficulties and play this in the second round
        If the game of external "higher powers" wink - to lead the center of power, as the United States, along with its Fed and the dollar. But. then the world will shudder afterwards and whether China with its yuan or the EU with its euro is ready to take on these functions.
        not matured ... But. one thing is clear. America fell into the same pit that for many years was digging another
        1. dauria
          dauria 6 July 2020 12: 30 New
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          But. one thing is clear. America fell into the same pit that for many years was digging another


          But what kind of "pit" is this? The system squeezes out Trump's upstart. Do not kill him in the end. The real pit for the United States lies elsewhere - they are no longer the only superpower with industry and the army. China got involved in the squabble, and in the United States over the past 30 years a generation has grown up "living beautifully at the expense of the rest of the planet." Appetites have to be tempered. It will shake. It was the USA-USSR, it will become the USA-China. And blacks - both turned on and off. I also have a problem - to disperse criminal idlers.
          The masterpiece of the system will be if you pacify these blacks will force other blacks. laughing
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 6 July 2020 12: 33 New
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            Trump is not an upstart, behind it are very specific financially industrial groups whose interests differ from the previous course
            1. dauria
              dauria 6 July 2020 12: 46 New
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              Trump is not an upstart,

              Do not remember how he became a candidate from the Republicans? He is a stranger even to his own. Though talented.
              1. Maki Avellevich
                Maki Avellevich 6 July 2020 20: 39 New
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                Quote: dauria
                Do not remember how he became a candidate from the Republicans? He is a stranger even to his own. Though talented.

                loners cannot come from here and take power. a team is needed for such matters, support.
          2. Zvonarev
            Zvonarev 6 July 2020 14: 20 New
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            Why force other blacks, they will still agree. After all, there are also Indians, Aleuts, Kanaks, Latinos can also be connected. Divide and conquer always works!
          3. Alf
            Alf 6 July 2020 18: 55 New
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            Quote: dauria
            upstart Trump.

            Upstarts in the USA do not become presidents, there are no random people in this work. Even theoretically.
          4. brat07
            brat07 7 July 2020 02: 12 New
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            The masterpiece of the system will be, if you pacify these blacks will force other blacks

            And the thought is very original and quite
            yourself "believable"! yes
          5. your1970
            your1970 11 July 2020 09: 22 New
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            Quote: dauria
            The masterpiece of the system will be if you pacify these blacks will force other blacks.

            It was more fun - the white beat the black man for tearing down posters in defense of the blacks ...
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 6 July 2020 14: 52 New
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          ......... got into the same pit that for many years was digging another ...
          laughing wassat how so? How so lol ??? After all, there is no American bully embassies? Or is there anything secret bully
          1. Alf
            Alf 6 July 2020 18: 57 New
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            Quote: Reptiloid
            ......... got into the same pit that for many years was digging another ...
            laughing wassat how so? How so lol ??? After all, there is no American bully embassies? Or is there anything secret bully

            In connection with the coronavirus and self-isolation, experts in color revolutions took work "home" ...
      2. Alf
        Alf 6 July 2020 18: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: To be or not to be
        If inside the USA, then they will die out on command ..

        It remains to understand the goals of the "conductor"

        Create a small, but leading in all respects, elite state "only for whites" with a world money machine, powerful armed forces, developed science and a cohesive population.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 6 July 2020 13: 35 New
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      Quote: To be or not to be
      If inside the USA, then they will die out on command ..

      "Wars begin at your will, but do not end at your desire" - attributed to Machiavelli
    3. your1970
      your1970 11 July 2020 09: 19 New
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      Quote: To be or not to be
      Or from outside?

      Putin???? !!!! belay belay

      Seriously, in the world there are no forces with sufficient funding and human resources for the collapse of the United States outside.

      Everyone understands that they are pregnant with the US revolution, and everyone will be sick, the whole world
  • barin
    barin 6 July 2020 09: 54 New
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    I do not know about the collapse of the United States, but this situation may affect economic development. We won, after the collapse of the USSR, rebounded by 10-20 years. We are still assembling technological chains.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 6 July 2020 14: 59 New
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      Quote: barin
      I do not know about the collapse of the United States, but this situation may affect economic development. We won, after the collapse of the USSR, rebounded by 10-20 years. We are still assembling technological chains.
      that's yes !! Due to the destruction of the USSR, the states have risen, due to the countries of eastern Europe ----- Western gay men have risen. And at the expense of the states, who rises interestingly?
      1. Alf
        Alf 6 July 2020 18: 58 New
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        Quote: Reptiloid
        Quote: barin
        I do not know about the collapse of the United States, but this situation may affect economic development. We won, after the collapse of the USSR, rebounded by 10-20 years. We are still assembling technological chains.
        that's yes !! Due to the destruction of the USSR, the states have risen, due to the countries of eastern Europe ----- Western gay men have risen. And at the expense of the states, who rises interestingly?

        Dragon Empire.
      2. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 6 July 2020 20: 40 New
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        Quote: Reptiloid
        that's yes !! Due to the destruction of the USSR, the states have risen, due to the countries of eastern Europe ----- Western gay men have risen. And at the expense of the states, who rises interestingly?

        the question is not of second importance, who will fall?
      3. brat07
        brat07 7 July 2020 03: 08 New
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        And at the expense of the states, who rises interestingly?

        Time will tell.
        Live - see (if live).
        Although ... What the hell is not joking.
        But in the "cloudless tomorrow I do not believe. request
    2. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 7 July 2020 02: 15 New
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      Quote: barin
      We are still assembling technological chains.
      it seems that more often lose / squander (2014 Ukraine, for example) .... (!) ...
  • smart ass
    smart ass 6 July 2020 10: 17 New
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    America will fall apart and default will not worry. However, look at Leontyev from the archive for 15 years already)
    1. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 6 July 2020 11: 00 New
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      Why look at the dusty archives, as they said, they talk about it all the time and with enviable regularity. Yellowstone will definitely explode.
      1. Alanart
        Alanart 6 July 2020 11: 18 New
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        And Elbrus will begin to erupt. Last time, until about the current Astrakhan, there was a flat place, covered with cemented ash. So everyone will feel bad sooner or later
      2. smart ass
        smart ass 6 July 2020 12: 27 New
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        Kiselevosolovinovy ​​pack about it talydychat every day
  • Navel
    Navel 6 July 2020 11: 40 New
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    Pereslegin many years ago theoretically substantiated the inevitability of a revolution in the United States in the early 20s (taking into account the constant cycles of revolutions in a given country). So who was conducting something there? - the question is purely speculative))
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 6 July 2020 12: 58 New
      +7
      So Ilyich wrote in his work "Imperialism as the Highest Stage of Capitalism" in 1916
      Imperialism is dying capitalism
      Imperialism - parasitic or decaying capitalism
      Imperialism - the eve of the socialist revolution.http: //istmat.info/node/33632
    2. Sahalinets
      Sahalinets 6 July 2020 14: 37 New
      +3
      I had a chance to talk with Pereslegin. A very sad impression remained. An important view, an unmeasured aplomb, and behind the facade there is emptiness ...
      1. Navel
        Navel 6 July 2020 16: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Sahalinets
        I had a chance to talk with Pereslegin. A very sad impression remained. An important view, an unmeasured aplomb, and behind the facade there is emptiness ...

        Soglasus, Khazin, Pereslegin and other deligins do not cause great human sympathy (because they are not red girls). But given the emptiness in European analytics, it’s even nothing. It even takes pride!). The Americans shone in the late 80s, in the 90s, but their time was gone, crushed
    3. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 6 July 2020 15: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: navel
      Pereslegin many years ago theoretically substantiated the inevitability of a revolution in the United States in the early 20s (taking into account the constant cycles of revolutions in a given country). So who was conducting something there? - the question is purely speculative))

      Yes ! Yes! Our St. Petersburg Sergey Pereslegin.! good He further described how it would happen! It would be nice if it comes true!
  • Svarog
    Svarog 6 July 2020 14: 15 New
    +9
    The collapse of the United States is possible only due to serious economic shocks. And everything else is the desired dreams.
    Racial protests are regular and conducted there ..
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 6 July 2020 21: 44 New
    -1
    wassat Joe Biden is a senile and this is not a joke wassat
    Concern for the state of mind of the main Democratic candidate for the US presidential election, Joseph Biden, was expressed by the press secretary of the White House under George W. Bush, Ari Fleischer, on May 15 on Fox News.

    Fleischer was forced to raise this question by Biden's next reservation, in which he confused the number of Americans who lost their jobs due to the coronavirus pandemic with the number of deaths.
    “We are in the midst of a pandemic that has deprived us of 85 jobs to date. And the lives of millions of people. Millions of people. Millions of jobs, ”Biden said in a May 14 virtual roundtable address.

    “It happens to many people that they confuse words or statistics. But isn't this already a characteristic feature of Joe Biden, which has now begun to deteriorate? " The former press secretary of George W. Bush asked on TV. wassat
  • Insurgent
    Insurgent 6 July 2020 09: 23 New
    +4
    How America will fall apart: on the likelihood of US collapse scenarios

    I do not know whether the United States will collapse in the near future, and under what (what) scenario (s), but it is clear that "seattle protest autonomous zone", the police smashed in two accounts ...



    Quote: Learn Colonel Cassad
    U.S. aggressors invaded the Autonomous Zone in downtown Seattle and captured it, dispersing the CHOP militia during a short battle. 30 members of the CHOP militia were captured.
    The campground was destroyed. The property of the inhabitants of free Seattle was loaded into garbage trucks and taken to the United States.
    1. NIKN
      NIKN 6 July 2020 09: 30 New
      +9
      Quote: Insurgent
      "Seattle Autonomous Zone protest," the police smashed in no time ...

      While they are playing democracy and all sorts of scumbags are using it, the rights of one or another are on the drum. They will give free rein to the security forces, scatter like cockroaches. but for now someone needs it.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 6 July 2020 10: 07 New
        +3
        Quote: NIKNN
        They will give free rein to the security forces, scatter like cockroaches. but for now someone needs it.

        When Martin Luther King was murdered in Memphis, Afro's performances were more violent. The authorities understood this, and the security forces quickly put things in order. Want - stop at the moment. Although the authorities backtracked and gave more rights to the non-white population, we see periodically what happened.
        “Instead of open racial segregation, US citizens have received the black revenge of those who believe that their ancestors were wrongly wronged for centuries, and now they are demanding compensation. The restoration of the rights of racial minorities solved old problems, but created new ones that cannot be solved within the framework of the generally accepted practice of political correctness. "
        It is reported by Rambler.
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 6 July 2020 10: 03 New
      +1
      Themselves to blame.
      A revolution cannot only defend itself. She must advance.
      Why did not occupy the outskirts of Seattle? Why didn’t they move to the province? Why didn’t the Negroes from the surrounding military units defect, join the tribesmen, or stand at the head of the victorious regiments and divisions?
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 6 July 2020 10: 06 New
        +3
        Quote: Pereira
        Themselves to blame.
        A revolution cannot only defend itself. She must advance.

        Please name, fundamentally substantiating signs of revolution in the USA...
        1. Rusland
          Rusland 6 July 2020 10: 26 New
          +2
          Lenin's "signs" remained, of course, for us and in relation to us. For us, at one time, it worked like this, but no more. The "tops" and "roots" from the west have a slogan: the sun, air and water are our best friends, nothing more.
          With the formulation of the question, I agree. yes
        2. Pereira
          Pereira 6 July 2020 10: 28 New
          +8
          You have pleased me.
          I was already afraid that everyone had forgotten about the signs of the revolution and about Lenin’s grandfather.
          Please. Just do not expect that the signs will be repeated one by one those hundred years ago.
          1) The inability for the ruling classes to maintain their dominance unchanged; one or another crisis of the “upper echelons,” a crisis of the politics of the ruling class, creating a crack in which the discontent and indignation of the oppressed classes break through.

          For the United States, authorities do not know what to do. Common sense tells you to disperse. But decades of tolerance and two tattered generations of whites do not allow it. And now, as I heard, at the top are considering options for increasing the tribute paid to blacks.

          2) The aggravation, above normal, of the needs and calamities of the oppressed classes

          In our case, it is not about the fact that blacks are suddenly destitute. Just at one point they raised the bar. What they were previously satisfied with is no longer satisfied. Accordingly, the Negroes in every possible way discuss the discussion welcomed and are already planning family budgets, taking into account the increased payments.

          3) A significant increase, due to these reasons, the activity of the masses, in the "peaceful" era, allowing themselves to be robbed calmly, and in stormy times, attracted, both by the entire crisis situation and by the "tops", to independent historical performance.

          There’s nothing to comment on. Activity is obvious. The fact that the tops themselves incite and contribute to riots - they say a lot and often.

          But this is a theory.
          The presence of signs of revolution does not mean at all that the revolution will take place, because in the United States there is not only a Marxist, but even a trade-unionist consciousness, but only a tendency to robbery and robbery, fueled by black Nazism and the indulgence of tolerance, which affects exclusively white WASPs.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 6 July 2020 10: 36 New
            -2
            Quote: Pereira
            The presence of signs of revolution does not mean at all that the revolution will take place, because in the United States there is not only a Marxist, but even a trade-unionist consciousness, but only a tendency to robbery and robbery, fueled by black Nazism and the indulgence of tolerance, which affects exclusively white WASPs.

            That is, what is called - "on the face", there is an absence of the moving masses of the revolutionary movement, and a revolution in the United States in this situation is not possible.

            And yet, for some reason you called the "Seattle Autonomous Zone" revolution (or at least its element), when commenting on a message about its liquidation:
            Quote: Pereira
            Themselves to blame.
            A revolution cannot only defend itself. She must advance.
            Why did not occupy the outskirts of Seattle? Why didn’t they move to the province? Why didn’t the Negroes from the surrounding military units defect, join the tribesmen, or stand at the head of the victorious regiments and divisions?


            Succumbed to euphoria?
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 6 July 2020 10: 50 New
              -3
              I beg of you. The same banter was with sub-elements.
              And why a real revolution is impossible, I myself wrote a post above.
              Not fighting that.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 6 July 2020 10: 53 New
                0
                Quote: Pereira
                The same banter was with sub-elements.

                Quote: Pereira
                Not fighting that.

                With that yes With inappropriate "jigsaw with elements" yes
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 6 July 2020 10: 55 New
                  -3
                  Good. Call it my pipe dream.
                  Do you want to take away my Dream?
                  You are mean.
                  1. Pereira
                    Pereira 6 July 2020 11: 25 New
                    +8

                    Participants of the "black Maidan" attacked a statue of a moose.
                    I do not moose. But they attacked me too. Negroes burst into VO?
                    1. VIP
                      VIP 6 July 2020 12: 51 New
                      +1
                      What did not please the moose?
                      1. Pereira
                        Pereira 6 July 2020 18: 58 New
                        +2
                        They write that the initiator of this statue was the local mayor - white.
        3. Navel
          Navel 6 July 2020 10: 43 New
          +2
          1. The main thing: the insoluble crisis of the elites. Only one should remain.
          2. The wild material stratification of society.
          3. The impoverishment of the population: a significant part lives on food cards, there is no access to medicine, expensive education for the masses. A significant part of the working population lives on the street. The problem with retirement benefits.
          4. Unresolved interethnic and racial problems.
          5. Blurry state forming the core of the population.
          6. The crisis of the state idea. Disappointment with "democratic" values.
          7. The split of society into traditionalists and democrats professing opposing values.

          PS revolutions never pass "from a raid" on the buildup of the situation always take months. Society must come to the stage of "accepting" the changes.
          1. Alf
            Alf 6 July 2020 21: 45 New
            0
            Quote: navel
            1. The main thing: the insoluble crisis of the elites. Only one should remain.

            Quote: navel
            3. The impoverishment of the population: a significant part lives on food cards, there is no access to medicine, expensive education for the masses.

            Quote: navel
            The problem with retirement benefits.

            Quote: navel
            5. Blurry state forming the core of the population.

            Quote: navel
            6. The crisis of the state idea. Disappointment with "democratic" values.

            Quote: navel
            7. The split of society into traditionalists and democrats professing opposing values.

            In some state, I see it ... Here the cards have not yet been entered, although they have been saying it for a long time.
      2. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 6 July 2020 16: 15 New
        +3
        And so, my friend, that you had to first capture the telegraph, bridges and banks ...
    3. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 7 July 2020 02: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: Insurgent
      Quote: Learn Colonel Cassad
      U.S. aggressors invaded the Autonomous Zone in downtown Seattle and captured it, dispersing the CHOP militia during a short battle. 30 members of the CHOP militia were captured.
      The campground was destroyed. The property of the inhabitants of free Seattle was loaded into garbage trucks and taken to the United States.
      belay trouble along the way (!)strangle democracy ?! And they do not heed the advice of A. Portnov, who sarcastically expresses his "concern" about this (akin to the one that came from the US Embassy during the Maidan) .... (!).
  • alone
    alone 6 July 2020 09: 29 New
    +8
    This has been said for 30 years since the collapse of the USSR .. and before the collapse they talked and talked ..
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 6 July 2020 10: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: lonely
      This has been said for 30 years since the collapse of the USSR .. and before the collapse they talked and talked ..

      And rightly said, the problem is that after Stalin, experts studying the west and the local elites have slacked or dispersed. As a result, the conclusion is correct. and then the rationale was just wild.
      Today, the United States entered the zone of turbulence. Could there be a revolution - maybe. If part of the elite and the people consider that while maintaining the former order, they lose more. But whether this will cause the collapse of the issue is extremely controversial. And while there was no blood. It is trite to be ready to kill. It is not simple.
  • Romey
    Romey 6 July 2020 09: 31 New
    +3
    Our events in the USA are taken too seriously. Everything is much simpler. And all these blacklight meters are another creative election feature of the Democratic Party, since, well, the story of crown burner came in very handy. If at the beginning of the year, it was possible to predict with confidence the re-election of Trump, then now apparently it will not work ...
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 6 July 2020 10: 07 New
      +5
      A country exists as long as its components are economically more profitable together. That's when we say Texas is not profitable to be in the same country as California and New York - then the collapse will begin. Or at least they think it’s not profitable ..

      And as for the Latinos, it’s not so simple .. How many thousands of fighters have their gangs there? Moreover, armed and trained. Plus support from abroad .. Yes, and some kind of ideology has a place to be - Great Aztlan .. So ..
      1. Romey
        Romey 6 July 2020 10: 21 New
        +2
        Of course, Latinos have long become a force with a certain influence. But there are a few, but. First, unlike nigers, they are less exalted. Secondly, Latinos are also extremely heterogeneous. There are Mexicans, there are Puerto Ricans, there are Cubans, there are Dominicans. And each group has its own interests.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 6 July 2020 10: 28 New
          +3
          It’s for now .. And so - they quite successfully use the topic of common Indian origin .. Yes, the interests coincide completely - try to pluck the gringos properly .. Brazenly seized the lands of their ancestors.
        2. Alf
          Alf 6 July 2020 21: 47 New
          0
          Quote: romey
          And each group has its own interests.

          There are two common interests-1. Hatred of gringo. 2. Drug.
  • Sergst
    Sergst 6 July 2020 09: 31 New
    +4
    Somehow the article did not convince ...
  • HAM
    HAM 6 July 2020 09: 37 New
    +3
    There will be no disintegration. When another party comes to power, they will forget about "democracy", stupidly suppress the riots of the American Africans as unnecessary ..... the Moors have done their job, the Moors are no longer needed by BIDEn ....
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 6 July 2020 10: 04 New
      -2
      Who will push? Demoralized, otolerate white? Or will attract Latinos and Chinese?
      1. Alf
        Alf 6 July 2020 21: 48 New
        0
        Quote: Pereira
        Demoralized, otolerate white?

        The Rednecks are still there.
  • Alex Parabellum
    Alex Parabellum 6 July 2020 09: 37 New
    +4
    As far as I understand, they already have too much state autonomy, so no reason to think about decay. But the likelihood of an armed, uncontrolled and merciless rebellion (pick up from the rich and distribute to the poor) is very high. And there already further on the thumb. History abounds with examples.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 6 July 2020 10: 06 New
      +2
      Rather, pick up from whites.
      And somehow I didn’t come across materials how the Latinos react to all this.
    2. cniza
      cniza 6 July 2020 12: 23 New
      +3
      Well, not very much to distribute, but yes to rob.
    3. VIP
      VIP 6 July 2020 20: 01 New
      0
      "take away from the rich and give away to the poor" - you have to be: Robin Hood, Ustin Karmalyuk, Makhno, finally, and there are no such monkeys among monkeys, and ordinary robbers and marauders and rapists are their property
  • vavilon
    vavilon 6 July 2020 09: 38 New
    +3
    Yes, there will be no collapse and in the event of a threat to the US constitutional order, the government will act tough and ruthlessly.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 July 2020 12: 22 New
      +1
      In theory, yes, but in practice it may result in anarchy or poly-power.
      1. vavilon
        vavilon 6 July 2020 13: 31 New
        0
        I don’t think that any fundamental changes will occur, the capitalist dictatorship is ruthless and cruel and the most important problem is that it’s unpunished
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 July 2020 13: 32 New
          +2
          God grant that the situation does not get out of control.
          1. Clear
            Clear 6 July 2020 18: 25 New
            +3
            Quote: cniza
            God grant that the situation does not get out of control.

            Yes, Victor and I also think that if their economy collapses, then it will not seem to everyone.
            1. cniza
              cniza 6 July 2020 20: 38 New
              +2
              The whole world financial system is under threat, and if it explodes there, everyone will have big problems ...
            2. vavilon
              vavilon 6 July 2020 22: 17 New
              +2
              Especially for those countries that have ties to global markets and in countries like North Korea whose planned economies are not in danger, little will seem.
              1. Alf
                Alf 7 July 2020 18: 20 New
                +1
                Quote: vavilon
                Especially for those countries that have ties to global markets and in countries like North Korea whose planned economies are not in danger, little will seem.

                If the country's monetary system is untied from the dollar and provided with gold, and is not yet freely convertible, then this country will look at the convulsions of the world financial system from a high fence, and even chuckle. lol fool
                1. your1970
                  your1970 11 July 2020 09: 40 New
                  0
                  For this, she still does not have any export and import at all
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 11 July 2020 17: 46 New
                    0
                    Quote: your1970
                    For this, she still does not have any export and import at all

                    In the USSR, the ruble was not freely convertible and backed by gold. Was there no export and import in the USSR?
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 12 July 2020 00: 31 New
                      0
                      Quote: Alf
                      In the USSR, the ruble was not freely convertible and backed by gold.
                      -It wasn’t ... But here's the oddity - the oil crisis of the 70s WHY I hit the USSR very hard. And it was secured with gold by the USSR and the non-convertible ruble - and our economy was hit hard by that crisis ...

                      Quote: Alf
                      Was there no export and import in the USSR?
                      -It was natural, otherwise the USSR would have died even earlier ...
                      Grain from Canada, pipes from Germany, forest around the world, Gas-51 to Africa and so on
                      But
                      Quote: Alf
                      Yes, and chuckling.
                      Now - no longer ride
    2. Alf
      Alf 6 July 2020 21: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: vavilon
      power will act tough and ruthlessly.

      And what part of the armed forces are Latinos? Will these parts be reliable? Wouldn’t they switch sides, having interrupted the officers and seized the contents of the arsenal warehouses?
      1. vavilon
        vavilon 7 July 2020 22: 46 New
        0
        Of course, everything is possible, but I think that the special services are on the alert and also ask this question
        It would be nice for our Zhirinovsky to go and distribute cookies near the white house))
  • Sahalinets
    Sahalinets 6 July 2020 09: 39 New
    +2
    Let it not be, I say right away. As far as buzzing in the USA in the 60s, the current gopniks are far away ... so what? Everything will settle down with them, they will just throw a couple of pieces to blacks ...
  • shed
    shed 6 July 2020 09: 46 New
    +9
    what's the difference how it falls apart and how many states, cookies need to be brought up and gingerbread cookies so that it usa falls apart. Do not forget who constantly threatens Russia, as long as there is a chance you need to ruin this nasty country.
    1. VIP
      VIP 6 July 2020 13: 05 New
      +1
      If they didn’t have nuclear weapons, then to hell with them, let them even fall apart at least this minute. Goblin knows what will happen if macaques get nuclear weapons?
    2. Alf
      Alf 6 July 2020 21: 53 New
      0
      Quote: shed
      cookies need to be brought up and gingerbread cookies to make usa fall apart. Do not forget who constantly threatens Russia, while there is a chance you need to ruin this nasty country.

      Who will drive and ruin? Those with children there, families and capitals?
    3. your1970
      your1970 11 July 2020 10: 04 New
      0
      Have you fallen from the oak ??? And if after the collapse they begin to naughty rockets in all directions? ?? And at the same time, with their collapse, we will all become poorer, because in the gold reserves there are their candy wrappers
  • shubin
    shubin 6 July 2020 09: 49 New
    10
    On the streets of major US metropolitan areas, namely Seattle and Atlanta, there are squads of heavily armed blacks who call themselves "black panthers." During the marches, the leaders of these groups shouted racist slogans that they distanced themselves from "BLM crap and white leftists." "We don't need whites in our ranks." "No white supremacy." "White macaques with guns will do when they see panthers." The leaders of the organization in Atlanta openly demand that Texas be given to them to build a black ethno-state. Otherwise, they threaten to start a "racial war". It all began on July 4, when the so-called "CHAZ Autonomous Zone" was liquidated in Seattle, and its leader was captured by the police.
    The show goes on.
    1. Alf
      Alf 6 July 2020 21: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: shubin
      The leaders of the organization in Atlanta openly demand to give them the state of Texas to build a black ethno-state.

      Something vangs to me that the whites in Texas will not be happy about this, and the people there are southerly, hot, accustomed to tackling everything with rings ...
      1. your1970
        your1970 11 July 2020 10: 58 New
        0
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: shubin
        The leaders of the organization in Atlanta openly demand to give them the state of Texas to build a black ethno-state.

        Something vangs to me that the whites in Texas will not be happy about this, and the people there are southerly, hot, accustomed to tackling everything with rings ...
        and what ???? Here everyone heard lies about self-defense in the USA, pro "if my house or me was attacked, I take out my faithful one (hereinafter the list of arms companies) and defend myself"
        And where is all this ??? Where are the corpses from protecting their homes and shops? At least a couple of thousand?

        Or they armed themselves to the teeth, to the point of insanity, in order to be able to calmly get on your knees and kiss shoes ???
        So it is quite possible to do without pistols and mountains of cartridges ....
        And then they are all so cool, hung with weapons, with tactical suspensions ... Rangers / Rambo practically. ...
        Underpants...
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 8 July 2020 15: 42 New
      0
      It would be nice to unite all those who are dissatisfied against the system and the war with this world cancer tumor inside it, but this is almost not really very much everything is controlled there.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 6 July 2020 09: 52 New
    -2
    The Norwegian worked for the Clintonoids and Biden. Trump just saves the United States, systematically lowering it to the level of a regional power. Sequentially withdraws, where possible, troops from bases around the world. Returns production to the country. If Clinton won in 2016, the collapse would have happened earlier.
  • Pavel73
    Pavel73 6 July 2020 09: 53 New
    +3
    God save the USA from collapse! For if it happens, it will not seem enough to anyone. Has anyone forgotten about nuclear arsenals yet? But it was they who saved Russia in the early 90s, when the West cost nothing to destroy us. For example, under the pretext of "human rights violations in Chechnya." The West was mortally afraid that control over Russian nuclear weapons would be lost, and only for this reason did not dare to finish us off. But the same can be said for the United States. If an uncontrollable mess suddenly begins there, then the American nuclear arsenals can fall into the hands of anyone. Fortunately, this mess so far looks manageable - just attempts to neatly toss Trump.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 6 July 2020 11: 01 New
      +1
      Any controlled process can at any moment develop into an uncontrollable collapse. And yes, given the presence of nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, and biological weapons, this would not be desirable.
      1. cniza
        cniza 6 July 2020 12: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Any controlled process can at any moment develop into an uncontrollable collapse. And yes, given the presence of nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, and biological weapons, this would not be desirable.


        Not just I would not want to, but this must be stopped.
    2. Alex_You
      Alex_You 6 July 2020 11: 02 New
      0
      If there suddenly begins an uncontrollable mess, then the American nuclear arsenals can fall into the hands of anyone

      To whom? Mexicans or Canadians? Well, if during the collapse of the union it didn’t fall into unnecessary hands, then it won’t fall into it, it remains only to wait for the collapse. wassat
      1. Pavel73
        Pavel73 6 July 2020 11: 15 New
        +1
        With the collapse of the Union, it did not fall into unnecessary hands only because it was immediately and promptly taken to the largest republic - Russia. But how it will be in the USA is a big question. No, the Americans are certainly not friends to us, but we also do not need their collapse.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 6 July 2020 09: 57 New
    +2
    What would it be that it collapsed, that someone should be NECESSARY, and this, who needs it, should have a lot of things, to implement it, then he needs to!
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 July 2020 12: 20 New
      +5
      As an option to write off external debts ... Greetings! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 July 2020 12: 26 New
        +2
        Good afternoon soldier
        The country is large, and if things go well with them, there will be enough worries for everyone!
        And they can "forgive" debts, only not to everyone, but to their loved ones ... the main thing is that no one really dares to tell them something.
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 July 2020 12: 30 New
          +2
          They can forgive, but the war is one way and they don’t know the other way, the war has always helped them to write off debts and enrich themselves.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 July 2020 13: 27 New
            +1
            The current president doesn’t get involved somewhere. He has a policy outlined, cut external costs ...
            in general, it’s not a fact that just some kind of war game will help him ... here is a small victorious one, it would be in the subject. Only whom to appoint as the enemy? and even win the quick .... again Panama to release sho it?
            He has a closer option, about which he stated that he will restore order in his house. And things are there for the most, the most.
            1. cniza
              cniza 6 July 2020 13: 30 New
              +2
              Trump, on the contrary, wants to get out of wherever possible, but they will not let him do it ... But he will restore order at home, I have no doubt ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 6 July 2020 13: 34 New
                +1
                Those who want to fight ... or rather, "warm up" the hands on that, they will always find them.
                Only after all, they have such a bunch of problems inside that they can’t easily solve it, but for the big war game, which WILL ALL WRITE OFF, it still needs to be solved. It is unlikely that they will decide on it now.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 6 July 2020 13: 51 New
                  +3
                  Everything will be decided in the coming months, not for long, see ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 6 July 2020 14: 33 New
                    +1
                    That is yes. Everything should be decided before November.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 6 July 2020 15: 16 New
                      +2
                      hi good afternoon, Victor! Can you recall how the States used to solve their problems? When the destruction of the USSR --- at the expense of the USSR, even their debt then decreased. ...... fed am Yugoslavia was destroyed.
                      But, most often, they solved problems by increasing the public debt ..... during both of us, we doubled 2 times, sort of ....
                      Quote: rocket757
                      ....... Everything should be decided before November.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 July 2020 18: 40 New
                        +1
                        Hi Dmitry soldier
                        Considering that their unit of account, the dollar, is itself a liquid commodity, the production of which costs them absolutely nothing! it is necessary to be able to overload, to distort your, not frail economy, to get into some other crises and debts ??? And they still want to teach the whole world something !!! This makes no sense. Gunboat diplomacy is all they can do now. It works, of course, but that's all for the time being!
                      2. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 6 July 2020 19: 42 New
                        +2
                        ....... get into some other transactions and debts .......
                        Yes, Victor, this country exists. at the expense of other countries ..
                        They will try to solve their problems at the expense of others, as always, they are not considering other options.
                  2. cniza
                    cniza 6 July 2020 15: 58 New
                    +3
                    Quote: rocket757
                    That is yes. Everything should be decided before November.


                    Yes, right after the election it will be clear what and where.
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 6 July 2020 18: 41 New
                      +1
                      We'll see. I will not think, there is no feeling that everything will settle down immediately ...
                    2. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 6 July 2020 19: 46 New
                      +1
                      Quote: rocket757
                      We'll see. I will not think, there is no feeling that everything will settle down immediately ...

                      Perhaps there should be some tempting offers? Why bother? I wonder in what situation will the elections be held?
                    3. rocket757
                      rocket757 7 July 2020 06: 51 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      I wonder in what circumstances will the elections be held?

                      Interesting, hot events are coming. So let's see.
                  3. cniza
                    cniza 6 July 2020 20: 45 New
                    +3
                    Quote: rocket757
                    We'll see. I will not think, there is no feeling that everything will settle down immediately ...


                    It will be settled only when the forces of reason defeat political ambitions, and this is almost impossible ...
                  4. rocket757
                    rocket757 7 July 2020 06: 52 New
                    +2
                    Quote: cniza
                    It will be settled only when the forces of reason defeat political ambitions, and this is almost impossible ...

                    Power and big babosiki are at stake !!! There will be no peace ... neither winners nor losers.
                  5. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 7 July 2020 07: 04 New
                    +1
                    the most interesting thing is to find out who exactly muddied everything? Although, of course, the names will be hidden, in any case bully popular protest am am
                    Good morning, Victor!
                  6. rocket757
                    rocket757 7 July 2020 07: 28 New
                    +1
                    Hi Dmitry soldier
                    It is unlikely that there is ONE that steers everything. Probably not anywhere else at all.
                    A group of VERY RICH PEOPLE who have a unifying, their, goal .... it will be more true!
                  7. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 7 July 2020 09: 19 New
                    +1
                    Quote: rocket757
                    Hi Dmitry soldier ........ A group of VERY RICH PEOPLE who have a unifying, their, goal .... it will be more true!
                    yes! What would these
                    unknown bully bully the rich have become richer! $$$ €€€ £$$ the goal of their whole life.
                  8. rocket757
                    rocket757 7 July 2020 09: 22 New
                    +1
                    There is no exact knowledge of what they specifically want. Too much nonsense around.
  • zlobny tatarin
    zlobny tatarin 6 July 2020 09: 59 New
    +2
    Let there be no decay. They will let the kids have fun, let off steam, and then there will be Tiananmen. American only. A couple of thousand will be put on the altar of "democracy" and everything will be as always. And no one will peep. And the police will be clothed with such rights that they will shoot at everything that moves and more medals will be given for it.
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 6 July 2020 10: 01 New
    +1
    The genie has already been released from the bottle, let's see what it all will lead to. bully
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 6 July 2020 11: 00 New
      +4
      Come on .... how much of this gin was released from the bottle, and how many times he returned to this bottle in the last century and in this ...
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 6 July 2020 11: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: parusnik
        . how much this gin was released from the bottle, and how many times he returned to this bottle both in the last century and in this.

        Nutes, remind us how many times in the past, the white population of the United States kissed the legs of black? Huh? wink
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 6 July 2020 15: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: parusnik
        Come on .... how much of this gin was released from the bottle, and how many times he returned to this bottle in the last century and in this ...

        Someone rubbing the lamp again bully in the last century there were hippies and against the Vietnam War there were performances ...... but how comparable are they with the current ones? The blacks then were quieter than the water below the grass, sort of? And the development of the trade union movement, I wonder how? Calm or not.
    2. cniza
      cniza 6 July 2020 12: 19 New
      +4
      Quote: Tank Hard
      The genie has already been released from the bottle, let's see what it all will lead to. bully


      Only to big blood ...
  • apro
    apro 6 July 2020 10: 04 New
    +4
    What are we burying sga again? How many slaughterhouses have been torn .... and the taller will fall. And eeloaston will burst.
    Negroes rage. So in the days of black panthers and hippies, too, they fought, and unlike fiercer ...
    Russians take care of their country at last.
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 6 July 2020 10: 54 New
      -1
      Quote: apro
      Russians take care of their country at last.

      Cooperative Lake does not give
  • parusnik
    parusnik 6 July 2020 10: 11 New
    +6
    Negroes ... or whatever African Americans ... the Democratic Party always fought for their votes ..... Elections on the nose ... You won’t win sympathy, the Democratic Party candidate will promise a lot of goodies, and after presses it to the nail ... For example, so Kennedy became president ... This is not the first time ... And then the ruling circles of the United States, not at all stupid, ruin the country ...
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 6 July 2020 10: 12 New
    +1
    Trump, oppressing Congress and law enforcement agencies, destroys the two-century system of counterbalances and preserving democracy, and since his main rival, Joe Biden, has less chance of winning the presidential election, it is possible that Trump will again become the head of state and continue his disastrous course .
    It’s somehow not clear how Trump is putting pressure on Congress, and most importantly, the author - Trump has been losing to Biden for a long time, moreover, well, the level of the article is appropriate negative
    former US vice president Joe Biden leads the polls, overtaking the incumbent head of state, Donald Trump. According to a study by the University of Monmouth, 53% of respondents are ready to vote for the future Democratic presidential candidate, while only 41% are in favor of the republican leader.
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  • Alexey Sommer
    Alexey Sommer 6 July 2020 10: 34 New
    +3
    The article is stupid. Superficial. Blurry.
    So why write?
  • Alexey Sommer
    Alexey Sommer 6 July 2020 10: 38 New
    0
    The key will begin after the election. Neither Republicans nor Democrats can recognize the election results in the event of their defeat.
    There are lots of options for aggravating the situation and the whole states announcing their versions of the election results, and not some kind of Seattle autonomous zone.
    What is happening now is a rehearsal. Improving coordination and other organizational issues.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 6 July 2020 10: 43 New
    +1
    No way the USA will fall apart - the author is ending raving.
    1. Asad
      Asad 6 July 2020 11: 09 New
      +1
      I completely agree, the weekend was probably difficult!
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 6 July 2020 10: 53 New
    -7
    Quote: barin
    I do not know about the collapse of the United States, but this situation may affect economic development. We won, after the collapse of the USSR, rebounded by 10-20 years. We are still assembling technological chains.

    We didn’t bounce anything If you have a good house, then after the political event it will not become bad, if the enterprise created good products, which are in demand, at a good price, then it will create. And so we were rogues living in barracks and releasing galoshes
    1. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 7 July 2020 03: 04 New
      0
      Quote: imobile2008
      if an enterprise created good products, in demand, at a good price, then it will create.
      Alas (!). not always, and not so (!).. as an example, I will take the enterprise "Zarya-Mashproekt" ?! suitable ?!, this company created good products (!) (fact), but ... further, after the coup, and breaking the economy of ties with its PRIMARY strategic customer of the Russian Navy ?! ... seemingly, -
      Quote: imobile2008
      then it will create.
      ?! no problem (!), and sell ?! To whom and where ?! Demands from the Indian Navy are much more modest than orders from the Russian Navy (!), and then, these smoked recently, oh how learned to bargainStraight no worse than ours from Odessa, as they say (!). And they also want to - a licensed release on its territory (!). China already bought a release license the most powerful gas turbine engines (it seems DA-91, at 27500 hp, under the index QC-280, if I'm not mistaken), for its type 055, and established production on its territory (!). Such, albeit EXPENSIVE, but ONE-TIME stocks (transactions), in essence do not promise further marketing of their products for the enterprise (!). Europe and NATO, our engines, were not allowed to enter their markets before (they have their own manufacturers !!!) ... yes
      Quote: imobile2008
      at a good price, then it will create.
      it’s not a problem, but to sell where so that the company receives PROFIT ?!. sell the remains of technology, under licensed production ?! and then?! ....
  • Lontus
    Lontus 6 July 2020 11: 01 New
    +2
    There can be no civil war in the United States because the population is armed (and only one side of the potential conflict) and has the ability to interact and consolidate information (unlike the Russians, which was then captured by the British during the German coup in RI 1917).
    Leftists cannot create anything organized without external recharge.
  • Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 6 July 2020 11: 05 New
    +1
    The article is a childish view of the United States.

    One example is epidemic payments (helicopter distribution of money) in Russia and in the USA:
    in Russia - 10000 rubles per child - currently 2 payments totaling 20000 rubles. for each child (approximately the total equivalent of $ 285).

    What is in the USA?
    A trucker who emigrated from a republic of the former USSR writes, I recommend that you read it for a general understanding of the situation: "How to live without a job in the United States? How the state helped us." https://www.drive2.ru/l/563389484268257930/
    who are too lazy to read, briefly:
    Stimulus checks - Stimulus check (Money as a gift).
    This time, all people with an annual income of less than $ 75000 a year were put in the amount of $ 1200, and their children - $ 500 per person. We, for our family, of two adults and two children, received an amount of $ 3400 dollars.


    It says: You hate me so much, but you cashed that check, didn't you?


    You can endlessly write articles about the imminent collapse of the United States - more than one generation is enough :))
  • Alex66
    Alex66 6 July 2020 11: 05 New
    +1
    Is the collapse of the United States a good news for us? But it’s interesting, we learn from our mistakes? China here seems to have created an entire institute dedicated to the collapse of the USSR, and we? We rejoice in the collapse of America, but this is stupid, we are integrated into the global system and will not let us down weakly. The United States will solve its problems at our expense, China and Europe, maybe the Saudis will be put under the knife. And how many contradictions do we have? National, stratification of the rich and the poor, religious, between the sexes. It is necessary to draw conclusions from strangers and their mistakes. And if the US falls apart, are we ready for this? What measures are we taking or are just happy.
    1. VIP
      VIP 6 July 2020 12: 28 New
      0
      What can you really offer in such a situation? Create an "institute to prevent collapse"? We already have a hell of a lot of lads, but how can we create an institute so that someone's son can eat my money? I've seen this in my grave!
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 6 July 2020 11: 05 New
    0
    The collapse of the United States can be targeted - when the tops decide that having a US is costly. But most likely it will be simultaneously with the process of the collapse of China and Russia.
    The second option for the collapse is spontaneous, when the economic crisis and political weakness will force us to separate.
  • Jünger
    Jünger 6 July 2020 11: 06 New
    +4
    I hope that whites around the world will take up the mind, introduce racial segregation and heal happily ever after. South Africa until the 90s - this is an ideal country. Well, or the United States to Vietnam.
    Although I understand that my hopes will not come true, and the world is gradually slipping into the scrap somewhere.
    1. VIP
      VIP 6 July 2020 17: 04 New
      0
      It would be good, but for this we need to drive all the monkeys on palm trees, and they are hungry there
  • Lontus
    Lontus 6 July 2020 11: 11 New
    +1
    Since both the pedaling of racial unrest and the emergence of covid-crown-hysteria were organized for the sole purpose of preventing Trump from being re-elected,
    then all this will stop right after the November 3 elections.
    Regardless of the winner.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 July 2020 12: 15 New
      +2
      It turns out that if Trump wins, there will be a second wave of all the dirty tricks ...
      1. Lontus
        Lontus 6 July 2020 12: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: Lontus
        Since both the pedaling of racial unrest and the emergence of covid-crown-hysteria were organized for the sole purpose of preventing Trump from being re-elected,
        then all this will stop right after the November 3 elections.
        Regardless of the winner.

        --

        Quote: cniza
        It turns out that if Trump wins, there will be a second wave of all the dirty tricks ...

        No - then the forces behind the democrats will look for other ways to return power and there will be a pause for reflection and reorganization.
        But resources will not be spent on covert hysteria and black racism, since there will not be a concrete big goal achieved in a short time.
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 July 2020 12: 28 New
          +1
          But many analysts predict the second wave and connect, precisely with the election results.
          1. Lontus
            Lontus 6 July 2020 12: 35 New
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            But many analysts predict the second wave and connect, precisely with the election results.

            the second wave of what?

            only 4 months left to make sure I'm right :)
            1. cniza
              cniza 6 July 2020 12: 41 New
              +1
              the second wave of what?


              Of course coronavirus and other unrest.

              only 4 months left to make sure I'm right :)


              May God grant us nothing else to do.
          2. Lontus
            Lontus 6 July 2020 12: 48 New
            +2
            Quote: Lontus
            Since both the pedaling of racial unrest and the emergence of covid-crown-hysteria were organized for the sole purpose of preventing Trump from being re-elected,
            then all this will stop right after the November 3 elections.
            Regardless of the winner.

            --
            Quote: cniza
            But many analysts predict the second wave and connect, precisely with the election results.

            after Trump's victory in the elections, he will be so strong that his opponents would be better off pretending to be rags and not shining, and if the Democrats win, then all the more nothing will happen, like "we won and now there was peace, harmony and victory over covid. we are good fellows "and there is no need to spend resources on all these dirty tricks - the goal has been achieved.
            1. VIP
              VIP 6 July 2020 17: 07 New
              0
              This could also be
  • Vyacheslav gomanov
    Vyacheslav gomanov 6 July 2020 11: 27 New
    +3
    Why only USA? England is the mother of all dirty tricks. If you dump England, then the collapse of the states will not be needed.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 6 July 2020 11: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: Lontus
    Since both the pedaling of racial unrest and the emergence of covid-crown-hysteria were organized for the sole purpose of preventing Trump from being re-elected,
    then all this will stop right after the November 3 elections.
    Regardless of the winner.


    The losing side may not agree with the election results. And then options are possible.
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  • VIP
    VIP 6 July 2020 11: 53 New
    +1
    If America flew somewhere to another planet, I would be glad, but I don't like the collapse of the United States. Where is the guarantee that some Nugumba-Bugumba, becoming president of Neolusitania, will not want to use nuclear weapons against us or against their "friends"?
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 July 2020 12: 14 New
      +1
      That's just the point, everyone will get and will be in a fever for a long time.
  • Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 6 July 2020 12: 00 New
    +2
    There is a chance if Donald raises the White Rebellion, and they establish a dictatorship. The massacre will not be comic.
    But in any case, the Massacre will be- if the white people reconcile, then the Negroes will cut them out. And there are still Latinos, Chinese, Indians, etc.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 July 2020 12: 13 New
      +1
      That is, the massacre will be anyway ...
      1. Dmitry Makarov
        Dmitry Makarov 6 July 2020 12: 19 New
        0
        Undoubtedly, there simply are no forces capable of solving this problem without bloodshed.
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 July 2020 12: 26 New
          +1
          In Seattle, it turned out to put things in order, it can do without a lot of blood.
        2. Genie
          Genie 6 July 2020 13: 31 New
          0
          Here you need strength to organize bloodshed on an industrial scale! With the destruction of the centers of science, industry, education. GDP is hot now!
          1. VIP
            VIP 6 July 2020 17: 15 New
            0
            So it was Vovan who let the blacks off the chain? He finally became insolent: he chose Trump, "zeroed out", and now he also released the baboons into the street, so that later he could say "I was just kidding."
          2. cniza
            cniza 6 July 2020 20: 41 New
            +1
            Everyone has a hot time ...
      2. Clear
        Clear 6 July 2020 18: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: cniza
        That is, the massacre will be anyway ...

        Well, even though they recorded us as enemies, we still don’t want them to cut each other.
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 July 2020 20: 42 New
          +1
          I think the mind will win and there will be forces to solve the situation with less blood.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 6 July 2020 12: 09 New
    +4
    For almost a hundred years, our country has been waiting for the collapse of the United States and the imminent collapse of the world bourgeoisie) All these are illusions. As long as golden rivers and streams run to the USA, as long as the dollar costs 70 rubles and not vice versa, as long as people leave to live and work in the USA and not vice versa, everything will be as it was. There is no need to compare the Americans with us - we could have lost the second superpower for the sake of "change." The local majority is just satisfied with "satiety", and for the sake of this satiety, if necessary, they will go and roll into a ram's horn both Negroes and Latinos, and if necessary, half of the world - so that everything is as it is. Any splits / splinters in the US will end their days the way CSA ended - even if they happen (and they don't).
  • cniza
    cniza 6 July 2020 12: 12 New
    +1
    But if it happens, then its “architects” will not be African street leaders, but representatives of the same American elite


    And it will not be easier for anyone from this and will sausage the whole world until a new balanced system is created, both financial and military-political.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 6 July 2020 12: 14 New
    0
    I don’t wish the mattresses to prosper, but the collapse of this cancerous tumor didn’t end in anything good for everyone, a lot of WMDs will not be clear in their hands, not to mention what happens to the economy tied to green candy wrappers
    1. prodi
      prodi 6 July 2020 14: 27 New
      0
      so what? well, they will disintegrate into three or four formations, with nuclear weapons between the oceans and the continental part, approximately equally; will become a kind of "sovereign Britain or France" with further degradation to the level of "Ukraine"
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 July 2020 16: 17 New
        0
        Quote: prodi
        with further degradation to the level of "Ukraine"

        Now imagine Sumeria with bio, nuclear and chemical weapons
        1. prodi
          prodi 6 July 2020 17: 21 New
          0
          so it was, with the nuclear, together with Belarus and Kazakhstan.
          With the distribution of nuclear weapons between "coastal colored dovecotes" and a more or less sane "rusty" white center, these new formations will not have geostrategic ambitions, except to hide each other; and even in the event that nuclear weapons fall into the hands of already committed scumbags, this threat will be many, many times more docked (and preferable) than the current
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 6 July 2020 17: 58 New
            0
            then they pressed on ukrov, who will put pressure on blacks?
            1. prodi
              prodi 6 July 2020 18: 32 New
              0
              Yes, do not press, they are self-neutralizing anyway
              In my mind, of course - it would be worth making a selection, regardless of skin color, but in real life, it is better to completely eliminate the North American continent than to leave it as it is
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 6 July 2020 22: 01 New
                0
                a black man with a nuclear bomb may self-neutralize but at the same time create problems for everyone
  • iouris
    iouris 6 July 2020 12: 23 New
    +1
    The USSR began the process, now - the turn of the US population. And not only the USA. There are too many of them, they consume too many resources, give little. It cannot go on like this anymore. This is a transition to a new technological structure, and changes in the basis will entail changes in the superstructure. The state is a superstructure. The descendants of slave owners use the descendants of slaves to achieve the goals of slave owners.
  • Undecim
    Undecim 6 July 2020 12: 33 New
    +2
    On July 2026, 250, the United States will be 250 years old. And on the same day, political theories about the disintegration of the United States will be XNUMX years old. Even Zbigniew Brzezinski made a mark in this field. And after the classic work of the British historian, sociologist, philosopher and culturologist Toynbee, A Study of History, appeared with his fundamental conclusion that the cause of the collapse of any empire is ultimately the “suicidal actions of its leaders,” each change of presidency in the United States was accompanied by their forecasts, the United States, of disintegration as a result of "suicidal actions" of the next president.
    The trouble with the authors of the VO website is that they have never read either Brzezinski, Toynbee, Cohen, or Starobin in their lives. These "experts" had never heard of Spengler's existence. Therefore, the thoughtless copyright of articles on this topic has nothing to do with reality.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 6 July 2020 12: 47 New
      +1
      Thanks for the bibliography, Viktor Nikolaevich!
      Do you think that the study of these works by any of the authors is able to stop "thoughtless copyright"?
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 6 July 2020 12: 59 New
        +2
        Do you think
        No, Anton, I don’t think so. And the listed authors will not be read by site "writers". What for? The sacramental 80 percent are not interested in content at all, the main thing is that it shines. And for this Spengler is not needed, moreover, it is harmful.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 6 July 2020 13: 09 New
          +2
          You are probably right. Most read "tags".
    2. iouris
      iouris 6 July 2020 16: 16 New
      -1
      Quote: Undecim
      the same day will be 250 years of political theories about the collapse of the United States

      You did not understand. We are not (yet) talking about the "disintegration of the USA" and the USSR has not "collapsed". The process is about reformatting (world) capital and is carefully planned. The states are a tool. Do not let go of the tool. As for the population (populations), this is part of the capital, so it will be formatted necessarily, if not in the first place.
  • BAI
    BAI 6 July 2020 12: 57 New
    0
    How America will fall apart

    Yes, just like Ukraine - i.e. will not fall apart and will not go anywhere.
    1. iouris
      iouris 6 July 2020 16: 18 New
      -1
      "Ukraine" is the brightest and most developed region of the USSR, which is why it has such an unenviable fate. But they still think it's "Putin's fault".
  • strelokmira
    strelokmira 6 July 2020 13: 08 New
    +2
    How sad it is to realize this, but VO is turning into a jaundiced publication "Hurray Novosti", instead of serious articles and adequate analytics, only wishlist that have nothing to do with reality
    1. Ronald Reagan
      Ronald Reagan 6 July 2020 14: 13 New
      +1
      Why does the local contingent need adequate analytics? laughing
  • swyatoslav
    swyatoslav 6 July 2020 13: 11 New
    -1
    Ahead Black robs, burn the hated America! Down with the white (American) wiseacres! All Black Power Tips!
    It is necessary to establish the import of the most corrupt politicians from Africa - let the brothers be bent.
    Remake it in a banana republic, then it will count towards all of you when we drive the humanitarian aid and second-hand containers to the States ...
  • VIP
    VIP 6 July 2020 13: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: cniza
    Quote: Cyril G ...
    Any controlled process can at any moment develop into an uncontrollable collapse. And yes, given the presence of nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, and biological weapons, this would not be desirable.


    Not just I would not want to, but this must be stopped.

    Although it is not modern, but the most effective means is to slap 2-3 leaders of the baboons and say: either wake up further and all "instantly into the sea" or stop booting
  • 123456789
    123456789 6 July 2020 13: 41 New
    +1

    Tim Kerby: “Revolution is impossible in the USA, because there is no American embassy there”
    1. iouris
      iouris 6 July 2020 22: 47 New
      0
      A state is a state. USA is a union of states. Someone connected them for something, it turned out S-SH-A. Those. every state has an "embassy". Many US citizens are "rolling stones", live and work with wheels. It can be assumed that internal migration is in full swing. They travel around the states according to ideological preferences that are quasi-religious in nature. This can be followed by quasi-religious clashes and even wars. Perhaps even bloody. Some of the States will run. But this is not a revolution, but the creation of conditions for a revolution "from above".
  • Tagan
    Tagan 6 July 2020 13: 46 New
    0
    Quote: dauria
    Do not kill him in the end.

    There were never any problems with this in the states. Moreover, at any levels. ;)
  • Tagan
    Tagan 6 July 2020 13: 52 New
    0
    Quote: BAI
    How America will fall apart

    Yes, just like Ukraine - i.e. will not fall apart and will not go anywhere.

    And what about Ukraine?
    She as a state exists only on paper. Well, there is a certain territorial formation, where the Gopnik and fascists are in the lead.
  • Wizzzard
    Wizzzard 6 July 2020 14: 00 New
    -1
    At one time, Galtung was able to predict ... even the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York

    Here it would be more detailed. Where and when did this genius make such a prediction. And by the way: based on what predictors ...
  • Wizzzard
    Wizzzard 6 July 2020 14: 03 New
    -1
    Quote: Egoza
    Quote: svp67
    It’s just not clear who will be there ...

    Who wouldn't be there! The main thing is to fall apart and "the wolves ate each other out of fright." Hurry up.

    Hurry up? Are you absolutely sure that the collapse of the United States (which, however, is not expected) will be beneficial (to the benefit) of Russia and, most importantly, the Russians?
    1. L-39NG
      L-39NG 6 July 2020 18: 46 New
      +1
      Not Latinos, but agree that hispanos, Still don't want to remember that the first Soviet "five-year plans" and hydroelectric power plants were for American money and with American engineers? How many years has America been falling apart since 1917? and the Soviet Union has already collapsed
  • nkilmaev
    nkilmaev 6 July 2020 14: 07 New
    +2
    It seems to me that they want to create a new state on the ruins of the current USA with the goal of abandoning the state’s debt obligations.