The last pre-war meeting was held in Iran

On July 27, shortly before the Friday prayer, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei summoned top Iranian commanders. This was, in his words, the "last military council."

"We will be in a state of war within a few weeks," he told the crowd. About this reports portal DEBKAfile, citing Iranian and intelligence sources.

The meeting was attended by:

Minister of Defense General Ahmad Vahidi

military adviser to Khamenei himself, General Yahya Rahim-Safavi,

- Commander of the Armed Forces, Major General Seyed Hasan Firuzabadi,

- Commander of the Revolutionary Guard Corps, General Mohammad Ali Jafari,

commander of the Al-Quds Brigade, General Kasem Suleymani.


The meeting was also attended by the commanders of the Air Force, the Navy fleet and ground forces of the Islamic Republic.

Each of the council members reported on the readiness of their department or sector on the emergency tasks facing them.

The so-called retribution groups carried out constant exercises throughout the past year, but despite the fact that all military leaders cheerfully reported that they would meet the enemy with all their fire and human power, Khamenei ordered that the largest stories Iran’s construction project of fortifications with the aim of preserving the country's nuclear program even from the most powerful super-weapons - multi-ton bunker bombs - available in the US arsenal.

As a result, huge rocky blocks, which were brought from afar, piled up key nuclear facilities, then they poured it all with tons of concrete and, finally, covered it with steel.

Then on Friday, July 27, the USAF introduced their new massive penetrating bombs. Each bunker bomb weighs 15 tons. Each such "deep-engined type of munitions" (MOP) is capable of penetrating to a depth of almost 20 meters, breaking through reinforced concrete piles.

As a weapon of retaliation, the Iranian military council set out special batteries to repel potential American and / or Israeli proactive strikes on the nuclear facilities of the Islamic Republic. By the way, the meeting began with the announcement of the beginning of uranium enrichment to 60 percent, that is, to a state close to the weapons grade.

The previously tested ballistic missiles "Shehab-3" urgently prepare for attacks on Israel, Saudi Arabia and US military facilities in the Middle East and the Persian Gulf.

Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas with Islamic Jihad in Gaza are ready to support Iran with attacks on Israel from the north and southwest.

Saudi oil shipment terminals will be blown up, and the Strait of Hormuz is mined to prevent a fifth part of world oil reserves from being exported from the Gulf countries.

Khamenei set the deadline for his military council to be ready for the upcoming armed conflict within a few weeks. According to Iran, the Middle East will explode in September or October.

Comments

[neri73-r]

Get ready, after Syria you are on the cutting edge!

[Vadivak]

Quote: neri73-r

Get ready

Stalin before the war announced through newspapers that the German attack was a provocation and was waiting for a response, and when it did not follow, it became clear that the war would be.

With this statement, the ayatollah makes the same thing, warns the whole world and awaits the reaction, what it will be, that’s the question, but the fact that the war is on the verge is clear to the hedgehog

[755962]

Quote: Vadivak

Stalin before the war announced through newspapers that the German attack was a provocation and was waiting for a response, and when it did not follow, it became clear that the war would be.

An obvious analogy. Here on a neighboring branch, and Israel has already warned Iran.

[Vadivak]

Quote: 755962

An obvious analogy. Here on a neighboring branch, and Israel has already warned Iran.

Yes, thank you, all these are links of one chain, the country interested in the war, of course Israel, such an atomic bomb neighbor is the end of Israel given the size of the country. State and NATO Army tool

[Pimply]

Israel is not interested in this. However, forced, for several reasons.

[dmitrich]

they could not cope with Lebanon, and Iran was too tough for them.

[Churchill]

dmitrich,
In the air stained gray! The closer autumn is, the clearer it is.

[Russian-]

Russia + China = end to Amer

[Pimply]

You see, the fact is that China is more important for Russian territories. And the end to the amers there is very unlikely.

[Pimply]

Before the Second Lebanon, rockets regularly burst on the northern border of Israel - once a day, on average. Now silence.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Pimply

Before the Second Lebanon, rockets regularly burst on the northern border of Israel - once a day, on average. Now silence.

I think soon this silence will remain, only history. The forces do not care, just below the capabilities of Iran, and in the attack on Iran !!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Israel will have fronts on each side, just have time to reload the horns.

[Pimply]

Nasrallah’s forces are far below Iran’s capabilities. You see, if there is a real war with Iran, well, no one will be exchanged for trifles, as last time. Last time, we carefully calculated - no matter where to get. They threw leaflets to civilians, etc. There will be a serious war - there will be no time for this. From Hezbollah there will remain horns and legs - as, in turn, the PLO forces literally swept out of Lebanon - and there Fatah was directly supplied with everything from the USSR to everything, including tanks.

[beard999]

Quote: Pimply

Well, no one will be exchanged for trifles, as last time

And the IDF "was exchanged for little things" during the July war? So, is it now called in Israel?
In fact, along with the dumping of "leaflets", Israel carried out a total bombardment of all of Lebanon, including and where Hezbollah never existed at all. The Israeli Air Force, in 34 days, completed over 12000 sorties, i.e. on average, not less than 354 vyl. / day. (For comparison, NATO in Libya, for 184 days (from March 31 to October 1) made 24000 sorties, or 130 sorties / day). There were times when more than 100 Israeli aircraft were in the air at the same time. As a result of the attacks, about 30000 structures were destroyed in Lebanon, including 900 shops and shopping centers (!). Of the 1191 (according to the UN and Lebanese official authorities) dead Lebanese, more than half are peaceful people (Amnesty International on August 23, 2006, reported the deaths of 1183 Lebanese civilians). Those. civilian casualties exceed Hezbollah’s losses ...
And that’s all you call “trivializing”?

Quote: Pimply

From Hezbollah there will be horns and legs

1. It’s still not clear why the valiant IDF didn’t do this back in 2006.
2. "Do not say gop until you jump over."

[Pimply]

Dear, how you like to rip out of context. Total bombardment is something else. It’s just that you don’t imagine it yourself, thank God. Hezbollah tried to carry out the total bombardment - they, however, had few capacities. Total bombardment is when ALL is compared to the ground. That is absolutely. The number of victims is not considered. If Israel had arranged something like the Dresden bombardment - and he is capable of it, there would have been much more victims.

During the 100 days of the war, the government agency Higher Relief Council, dealing with the humanitarian crisis in Lebanon, reported the deaths of 1,191 people, mostly civilians. Lebanese police claimed 1,100 deaths based on data from hospitals and morgues. Amnesty International reported to 23.08.06 about the deaths of 1,183 civilians and more than 4,000 wounded. But it’s amazing - apparently, Hezbollah’s fighters were also included in this figure, because the total number of losses is indicated approximately the same, isn't it?

At 14.08.06, the IDF estimated the losses of Hezbollah to 500-550 people, including several dozen field commanders (for example, at the end of the war, the commander of the special operations Hezbollah (“special forces commander”) Sajid Dvir). The names of the 300 killed militants were known. 08.09.06 published updated data, according to which Hezbollah lost about 700 people, the names of about 600 of them were known. Thus, up to 20% of the organization’s militants were destroyed. 15.12.06 Hezbollah admitted the loss of 250 to its militants, while previously it recognized the loss of all 61, and then 70.

In addition, at least 7 militants of the Amal movement, 1 member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, 35-40 Lebanese soldiers and policemen were killed.

True, the amazing thing is statistics. For three days of the bombing in Dresden, from 25000 to 100000 people died. This is what is called total bombardment. During the 33 day of the war, with increased attempts by militants to fire precisely from residential areas, a little more than 500 civilians, and from 600 to 700 militants, died.

Do you feel the difference?

Why did the valiant Tsahal not do this? Basically, he did. Now for the first time in many years on the northern border - quiet and smooth. You understand that this is not a question of IDF opportunities - it is a matter of political will and moment.

About the gop do not say - I dare to remind you.

[beard999]

Quote: Pimply

Total bombardment is when ALL is compared to the ground.

I would not want to reduce the argument to secondary details and discuss particulars. Therefore, I explain my position once. And then I do not discuss this.
You definitely put an equal sign between total and carpet bombing. But I meant something else. Hezbollah’s positions were in southern Lebanon, on the border with Israel, in a square measuring approximately 25x25 km. That is, the whole theater, right up to Litani, was shot through by Israeli artillery. One of the strategic goals of Israel was to create a buffer zone in this territory. However, Israeli aircraft attacked throughout Lebanon, including and civilian facilities that had nothing to do with Hezbollah at all. That is what I called the “total” bombardment, when your goals were the whole country, and not just Hezbollah.

Quote: Pimply

because the total number of losses is indicated approximately the same, right?

Well, let's start, let's say that you are operating with numbers from the Wiki. In principle, I have nothing against it. However, the wiki itself, these figures, cites with links to Israeli (evreimir.com) and English sources (telegraph.co.uk). So even if we rely on these figures, the UN and Lebanese official authorities give Hezbollah losses of 500 people, and the total losses of about 1200 people. That is, civilian casualties for any exceed Hezbollah’s losses.
There are Arabic numbers. For example, at the time, I was transferred from the Arab parliamentary investigation (on the July war) to the Mustakbal party, which by no means can be called "friendly" Hezbollah. So, there are slightly different numbers. The death toll of Hezbollah fighters was estimated at around 400. The death toll of Lebanese civilians: at least 30 due to Hezbollah and at least 1100 for the Israeli military.
Those. according to anyone, the IDF killed more people than Hezbollah fighters.
As for the so-called a list of the names of the "dead" Hezbollah fighters. Have you seen this list? Give a link? Information on this list appeared on August 8, 2006, that is, before the end of active hostilities. Excuse me, but when did the Israelis manage to collect 600 corpses, much less accurately identify them? This is complete nonsense. Given the fact that Israel, at the end of the fighting, was captured only 6 captured Hezbollah fighters, the figures of 600-700 is a goofy propaganda ...

Quote: Pimply

with increased attempts by militants to fire precisely from residential areas, just over 500 civilians died

You are not writing the truth. Israel killed civilians throughout Lebanon. For example, on August 4, 2006, 33 Kurds (ordinary peasants) were killed in the Bekaa Valley. And, which is characteristic, they didn’t conduct any “fire from residential areas” ...

Quote: Pimply

on the northern border - quiet and smooth

So what? This happens only at the will of Hezbollah, and not as a result of any Israeli actions. They decide to start shelling again - they will start, and they will not ask you.

Quote: Pimply

Don’t say a gop - I dare to remind you too

To me? But was it I who waved my “sword”, made a promise to “endure”, so that “horns and legs remain”? Why translate arrows like that?

[Pimply]

The positions of Hezbollah were not only on this segment, who told you. In addition, Hezbollah was at that time a member of the Lebanese government, do you know?

There were Hezbollah quarters in Beirut, there were roads along which ammunition was transported, and an airport where aircraft loaded with weapons from Syria and Iran landed. If you don’t know, the Lebanese army tried to intervene a couple of times - and it is half Shiite. You have no idea what exactly was there. And I am quite fine.

Are you aware that Hezbollah strongholds were also in the Bekaa Valley? As in Baalbek, and many other places. And - surprise - civilians often die in war - especially if they are used as a shield.

Of course, silence is at the will of Hezbollah. Do you know why? After all, she, and no one else fired at the Israeli border before. Because Hezbollah understands - next time everything will be much worse for her. A lot. Sheikh Nassrall almost does not risk appearing in public.

You know, I was convinced - to prove something to the fanatics is pointless. You built yourself an image of the enemy. Until you learn to disconnect from him at least for a short while and try to face facts, you are unable to adequately perceive reality. Total.

[beard999]

Quote: Pimply

Now silence

And why do not you name the reasons for "silence"? Is Israel, in the July war, defeated Hezbollah, destroyed its missile arsenals? Nothing of the kind. If you suddenly forgot, then I remind you that on the last day of the war, until 08:00 a.m. on August 14, when the ceasefire entered into force, the entire north of Israel was subjected to a massive missile strike. About 100 rockets exploded in the Kiryat Shmona area alone. It is clear that the Hezbollah rocket attack on Israel ceased, on its own initiative, adhering to the armistice, and not at all as a result of military defeat. After the end of the July war, Hezbollah restored its arsenal very quickly, by November 2006 http://txt.newsru.com/world/12nov2006/umo.html. Now, in the media, the number of missiles in motion is estimated at 40-60 thousand missiles. And Hezbollah will not stop at all at any time from starting shelling Israel if such an order is received from Nasrallah.

[Pimply]

Respected. Hezbollah’s missile arsenals were destroyed by more than 50% - she then had to urgently replenish them.

3,917 rockets were fired at Israel. The number of people killed during the war in battles and in rocket attacks is 163 people, including 119 servicemen (73 urgent or personnel service and 46 reservists) and 44 civilians. That is, the real effectiveness of the missiles was rather low. And this despite the fact that at that time there were no systems like the "Iron Dome" capable of shooting down short-range missiles. So, why, if there are so many missiles, and it is very profitable for Hezbollah to maintain tension on the border with Israel, still calm and quiet on the border?

[Bashkaus]

Do not forget, the rockets are made from a piece of rusty iron and sheets for the stabilizer, the price of the rocket is the labor costs of tearing off the exhaust pipe of an Israeli car and half an hour with a jigsaw. The price of Iron bathed $$$$$$$$$ Whichever side you look at, Hezbollah spun Israel to create an expensive missile system, although the cost itself was minimal. When you fight, you can cut it once with a little leg, two, three, and the whole bloodstream will quietly flow out, you won’t get any dollars

[Pimply]

Respected. These five hundred bucks fly on 4 km. What can fly further is more expensive. Yes, this still needs to be managed to run. Do you know what losses among rocket launchers? An iron dome knocks down missiles that fly into a residential area. The destruction that these missiles could inflict is much more expensive than missiles. And on the other side what a jolly will be. I repeat - Have you noticed how quietly recent years have been on the Israeli northern border?

[Bashkaus]

Three times the CD to your iron dome. You yourself understood that you froze? "The iron dome knocks down missiles that fly into the residential area" Just like in a joke: an intellectual asks a bath attendant, tell me, can you buy a ticket to the bathhouse for one person? the banshik asks in surprise, "What, will you not wash your backside?"
Listen how much you get paid in the State Department? ready to throw + 10% so you would not freeze nonsense.

[Pimply]

Respected. What nonsense are you talking to the person who lived in Israel for 15 years. There are no false attics in Israel. They are building a room that can be used as a bomb shelter - it has a hemetic window, the same door, iron shutters and fortified walls.

Since about 75% of the Kassam missiles miss their target, the Iron Dome radar calculates the trajectory to reduce costs and does not issue an intercept command if, according to calculations, the missile falls into an unpopulated area. Is it more accessible?

Go, go steam your brain to someone else. The attendant.

[Russian-]

Glory to Russia!!!
Glory to Putin !!!
I am ready for world 3 with the use of nuclear weapons.
I hope our Voivode will not let you down and 20Mtn over the territory of the enemy - he will calm everyone down immediately.

[beard999]

Quote: Pimply

Hezbollah's missile arsenals were destroyed by more than 50%

This data is estimated at best. No one, or when, did not name the exact number of Hezbollah’s missiles at the beginning of hostilities. The most common version of them "was more than 12000 units." Moreover, no one in Israel knows how many were destroyed. Nevertheless, at the time the end of hostilities, Hezbollah was quite combat-ready. On August 13 (the last day of the war), Hezbollah fell at least 250 missiles onto Israel (some say this is a daily record). And Israel could not do anything with this.

Quote: Pimply

rocket efficiency was low enough

The "effectiveness" of these missiles was mostly psychological. Remember the number of Israeli refugees in those days. Economic damage was the same. According to Israeli data, from 6000 to 12000 buildings and structures were hit by Hezbollah missiles (including 2000 apartments and houses completely destroyed). Not for nothing, as I already wrote above, one of the main tasks of the IDF was to create a “buffer” zone to Litani, to deprive Hezbollah of its starting positions. But at the time of the end of the war, this task by Israel remained unfulfilled.

Quote: Pimply

there were no systems like the Iron Dome

“2011th year. 229 attacks, 386 missiles - 34 missiles were shot down by the missile defense system ”. Source - Israeli: http://newsru.co.il/mideast/12mar2012/gaza_101.html. Other sources also give figures that are not too comforting for you: “The Israeli military has successfully tested the Iron Dome lower echelon anti-missile defense system in combat conditions. During April 7-9, it intercepted a total of eight Grad and Qassam missiles from 35 launched into Israel. In other words, the system intercepted only 24 percent of the missiles. However, according to its developers, the Iron Dome intercepts only missiles only if there is a real threat that they will hit populated areas. " http://topwar.ru/4258-naskolko-effektiven-zheleznyy-kupol-izrailya.html.
Comments on these figures are required?

[Russlana]

Do not forget that the Jews must rebuild the temple of Solomon, on the site of which is now? That's right, the Omar mosque. The mosque can be demolished only under one condition, I hope you don’t have to say which one. So, Israel is very interested.

[Pimply]

By most estimates, there’s no need to demolish anything. Well, and as a fact - are you aware that moving historical buildings is possible? In Moscow, the whole streets were transported. Jews, unlike Arabs, did not deal with the destruction of other people's shrines.

[Russlana]

Well, yes, yes, dear, kind, pretty Orthodox Jews ...

[Pimply]

Who said cute? However, in the 67 year, there was an option to destroy the Omar mosque and demolish the Arab quarters of the Old City - like the Jordanians who demolished the Hebrew (it was later restored for a long time). Or to spoil - as the Palestinians did with the tomb of Joseph. Or shoot from cannons - like the Taliban with ancient Buddha statues. Or to destroy with bulldozers - as the Islamists in Mali did with the burial grounds.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Pimply

In Moscow, the whole streets were transported. Jews, unlike Arabs, were not involved in the destruction of other people's shrines

In this case, it will not be up to synths, they will demolish it with the help of tanks and do not frown. And for a warrior with a shit, how many frostbitten screaming allahs akbar will rush to the borders of Israel to help the Islamists? Plus arsenals with chemistry in Syria, where they will be and in whose hands I don’t know. But I understand that this warrior will be different as in the USSR. And whether there will be winners in it is far from a fact!

[Pimply]

Yes a little. The reason is quite clear: "Hezbollah" is Shiites, whom the Sunnis regard as sectarians, non-humans and traitors.

[cc-20]

Here, Israel’s neutrality with the Saudis, Qatars, etc. Wahhabis, who are armed to the teeth and say even 4 vigorous heads for them, has been violated by Pakistan, taking into account the fact that Chinese missiles were purchased for this.

[Pimply]

About the nuclear missiles made "for them" by Pakistan - this is strong.

[beard999]

Quote: Pimply

However, forced, for several reasons

Will it not be difficult for you to list this “series of reasons” for which Israel, precisely “forced” (!!!), to start a war with Iran?

[Orey]

Quote: Vadivak

Stalin before the war announced through newspapers that the German attack was a provocation and was waiting for a response, and when it did not follow, it became clear that the war would be.

It is a pity that when it became clear to him he did not tell anyone about this.
By the way, the meeting began with the announcement of the beginning of uranium enrichment up to 60 percent, that is, to a state close to weapons.
Key phrase of the article. Iranians know the blow will be on them when they start to receive weapons-grade uranium in commodity quantities. Hence the prediction in a few weeks - the United States needed to transfer AUG. They calculated time in the hope that there might not be a blow because of a presidential company in the USA ...
I remember in my childhood a film about Nastradamus and the beginning of the 3rd world ... it seems ...

[Num lock U.A.]

yes, this is exactly the key phrase and not only articles, but the whole message of Iran in general

[Vadivak]

Quote: Orey

it is alright that when it became clear to him he did not tell anyone about this.

The joke failed

Marshal of the Soviet Union A.M. Vasilevsky, who at that time served in the Operations Directorate of the General Staff with the rank of Major General, writes in his book “The Work of All Life”: “It makes sense to dwell on the well-known TASS message dated June 14, 1941. Some readers are inclined to consider it a document that played an almost fatal role in our preparations for the war and dulled the vigilance of Soviet people at the most important and critical moment in the life of our country.

If we consider this message in isolation from the foreign and domestic policies of the Communist Party, we can probably draw some negative conclusions. But to do so would be reckless.

The TASS report of June 14, 1941 is, on the one hand, a military-political probe, which has clearly shown that Germany is heading for a war against the USSR and the threat of war is approaching. This stemmed from the deathly silence of the fascist leaders on the request addressed to them by the Soviet government.

On the other hand, this statement showed the desire of our government to use every opportunity to delay the start of the war, to gain time to prepare our Armed Forces to repel aggression.

Thus, I believe it is correct to consider that the TASS report of June 14, 1941 is evidence of the concern of the party and government about the security of our country and its vital interests.

The fact that this message is a foreign policy action is evidenced by the continued implementation of organizational and mobilization measures, the transfer of military units to the west, the transfer of a number of enterprises to fulfill military orders, etc.

For us, the staff of the General Staff, as, naturally, for other Soviet people, the TASS message at first caused some surprise. But since no fundamentally new directives followed, it became clear that it does not apply to the Armed Forces, nor to the country as a whole. In addition, at the end of the same day, First Deputy Chief of the General Staff, General N.F. Vatutin explained that the purpose of the TASS message was to verify the true intentions of the Nazis, and it no longer attracted our attention. ” (A.M. Vasilevsky, The Work of All Life. M. 1984, p. 96.).

[Orey]

Quote: Vadivak

TASS message from 14 1941 June of the year is, on the one hand, a military-political probe, which clearly showed that Germany is heading for a war against the USSR and the threat of war is approaching. This stemmed from the deathly silence of the fascist leaders on the request addressed to them by the Soviet government.

Already in 1940, the Soviet armies stood on the ledges on the Western border, and the buildup continued without any probes ...

Quote: Vadivak

Thus, I believe it is correct to consider that the TASS report of June 14, 1941 is evidence of the concern of the party and government about the security of our country and its vital interests.

Glory to the party and the government and personally comrade Kim Il Sung


We wanted the best it turned out as always ... (c)

[Lord of the Sith]

Very accurate comparison

[Russian-]

Quote: Vadivak

but the fact that war is on the verge is a hedgehog

That is the apocalypse of humanity.
Vanga said - the end of Syria will come - it will begin ........... all. BUT Russia - will take out and become a NEW superpower - the only one in the whole world - on a par with China

[Kievan]

Quote: Russ -

Wang said ...

Did you read Wanga’s predictions from 90 to 2012? Read ... everything is past the checkout, delirium delirium ...

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

That's how it seems to me that, given the position of the Russian Federation and China, the United States and NATO can just start from Iran ... and here invade into the guise of Syria, since Syria will obviously not stay away from the conflict ....... so say will be of. occasion for military operations against Assad ................... IMHO

[Tjumenec72]

They wanted to break Syria precisely in order to reduce the number of Iran’s direct allies in a possible war against Israel.

[cc-20]

I’m afraid that when they bask Iran, Assad will squeeze himself like a mouse and watch, but he will be absolutely right, there’s no sense from the suicides.

[Pimply]

Assad by that time is unlikely to be on the throne

[patsantre]

this is about the same as saying "the US struck a blow at Russia in order to get rid of Iran on the sly"

[vorobey]

A few weeks is how much?

It seems to me bust with the title.

[... in motu]

Not at all bust. Withdrew / warned / K. Anan, his authority expires in a month. And this uncle oh, how simple / rather his wife. Anyone interested can google.

[Chuck-norris]

How many months they say: "Well, now it starts!" And all by. I already do not trust the media in this matter. As if all the media and experts are guessing, and who guesses will be the best expert

[aktanir]

in this material, not a media forecast, but a high-ranking official of Iran

[Russian-]

Quote: aktanir

Do not media predict the war

But this does not happen.
Imagine 20 minutes to go. Sirens. So what?
Where do you personally run? In the basement or something?
This scenario is provided for by the Amer, and just in it - in general there is NO such as warning the population.
It’s not us that their volcano Yellowstone baboonet and 60% of Amer will die out in 2 weeks. So what. Nothing - instructions - to sit at home and wait for help. Itpak until the death of 60% of the population. About 200.000.000 Americans.

[Russian-]

Quote: Chuck-Norris

"Well, now it starts!" And all by

Before a thunderstorm the same way. Right now. And bang bang.
There will be no good outcome for everyone.

[Alexander Romanov]

What the most interesting in full will be the sixes of America, America itself is far away, but those who wash nearby do not want to. I wish Iran to sank half of the American ships, and not with Saudi Arabia and Qatar to make peace.

[timhelmet]

And half what?
Let everyone stoke!
Nefig swim, where you are not waiting.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: timhelmet

And half what?

The legitimate question is what kind of warrior is without trophies. We drown one, we take another prisoner.

[Ustas]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I wish Iran to sink half of the American ships

And more to hook the aircraft carriers. Here the Iranian Qadirs come in handy.

[ilichstar]

Do you really believe that Iran has power for this ???

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: ilichstar

Do you really believe that Iran has power for this ???

Do you really believe in the invincibility of the American army ???

[Pimply]

This is not the question. The question is whether the IRGC and the Iranian Armed Forces are capable of real resistance from the US Armed Forces.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Pimply

The question is whether the IRGC and the Iranian armed forces are capable of real resistance by the US armed forces.

Do you want to test this question in practice, but it will not be difficult to find out, but then what if it turns out that YES? Beginning of 3 World I wish you to stay alive, but considering what kind of weapon can be used, my wish is not the best

[Pimply]

Take a look, for a start, at the real military potential of Iran. They barely managed to build a copy of the F4 - and called it their new aircraft, then a copy of the Cobra - again quite mediocre - and called it their new helicopter. Do you really believe in the possibility of their victory?

[Yasen Ping]

You are like a true eee oooh, a Jew is a passerby, excuse me, you measure everything by having that, having that, you somehow forget that not technology wins in the war, but the presence of spirit and ingenuity, if the Iranians are united in spirit and wit will not let you down , like us in the Second World War, everyone will get a duley !!!!!!!

[Pimply]

Iranians will not be united in spirit. This was shown both by the performances in the country and the fact that now the subsidized chicken has kilometer-long lines even in the capital. There will not be a second WWII.

[Shulz-1955]

But the question is, if Iran creates an atomic bomb, will it crash or will it contain itself?

[Bashkaus]

Thanks for the question, it is really interesting. In principle, they can rewrite the doctrine on application with us, because we are allowed to cough first now)))

[... in motu]

Quote: ilichstar

Do you really believe that Iran has power for this ???

What is simpler - a "dirty bomb" of 20% uranium is enough ...

[Bashkaus]

History shows that everything happens in life. For example, Alexander Nevsky, with his lightly armed squad, pulled off German mulets from horses with his hooks and sank like newborn kittens in Lake Peipsi. That confusion still happened, the Germans clearly did not count ...

[Bashkaus]

Eh! Slow down your horses! If anyone disagrees with my statement about "anything can happen", tell me straight out where I am wrong, otherwise, to put it so nastyly out of trouble, honestly, not like a kid.

[... in motu]

And the Anglo-Saxons always fight like that. It’s more practical. Bleed-weaken-catch. Nothing new...

[patsantre]

Exactly. More profitable, more efficient. Do it right.

[Russian-]

I’ve noticed what - almost none of you have any technical and deep knowledge - and you’re smashing such nonsense - that ........
You read and marvel at how uneducated and near-minded people live with us.
No offense only.
If you do not agree - pass the IQ test for 167 points - we bet. Let's talk.
It is always nice to talk with smart brow.
And the minuses and + are not an indicator as such. What's in a person’s head.

[Sakhalininsk]

Not a funny picture for us, the oil looms.
We look forward to another WOW from Hila Clitoris and other State Department monkeys. I really would not want the Near to give birth to a great war near our borders.

[Ustas]

Quote: Sakhalininets

I really would not want the Near to give birth to a great war near our borders.

The saddest thing is not the Middle one giving birth to war, but shit-democratizers from across the ocean.

[Stealth]

Well, in my opinion, the Middle is better than the Far

[escapes]

whatever one may say, the Judeo-Masons are to blame for everything again !!

[Nir]

Quote: fugas

whatever one may say, the Judeo-Masons are to blame for everything again !!

Well, of course, who else, they don’t give these to your entire masses as you put it. Eyes develop respected, criminal Sharia regime, the ayatol should be removed until these crazy fanatics get atomic weapons; otherwise, if they receive it, they will arrange for you to export the Islamic revolution that the masses will seem like brothers to you.

[escapes]

that is, in your opinion, the Saudis who would have long devoured your Uzbekistan, if not for the angels of Russia? so chtoli ??
if you deprive you of work, there you cut each other. !!

[UzRus]

if you deprive you of work, there you cut each other. !! - Come on! Our earnings went to Russia!

[Nir]

Quote: fugas

if you deprive you of work, there you cut each other. !!

This is another question, who will cut whom and where?

[Bashkaus]

Of all the countries that have nuclear weapons, only one actually used it, the light of democracy - the USA! Moreover, there was no strategic advantage or need for this. Applied from the principle, while others are judged by themselves.

[Pimply]

The need was, and quite serious.

[Bashkaus]

If you follow the logic of the Americans, then a bear must be killed in the forest only because it is there, and only because it can pick up a person who went into a dense forest from nothing to do, found a den, climbed into it and began to pull this very bear by the ears ... And the question "what for to go into the dense forest, where are a lot of wild animals?" they don't bother too much, but why? democracy is what I want ...

[Pimply]

A funny, totally inappropriate analogy. Do you remember that at that time there was a war? That Japan, although losing, was still strong enough. And the topic with "kamikaze" is exactly from there. Remember, right? No, I understand, you are generous, you are ready to kill your soldiers in thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds. The Americans were not ready. And so the Japanese were killed. Tough, scary. This proved to the Emperor of Japan the impossibility of resistance and the need for surrender.

[Nir]

Quote: Pimply

No, I understand, you are generous, you are ready to ruin your soldiers with thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds. The Americans were not ready. And because the Japanese banged. Tough, scary. What proved to the emperor of Japan the impossibility of resistance and the need for surrender.

I respect Americans only because they have the rule "Use ammunition, take care of the soldiers"

[Pimply]

What I’m talking about.

[Russian-]

Quote: fugas

again the masses are to blame

And everywhere the Anglo Saxons are Jewish Freemasons

[Trapperxnumx]

Everything is correct - the elections in the USA are getting closer, and the votes of "Maksimka" are getting smaller. And under the guise of a "great war" you can do whatever you want, right up to diktat (which the United States has been striving for in recent years).

[kasper]

As predicted by Wang: World War 3 will begin with the Arab countries in September-October 2012, with the use of one of the countries of chemical weapons.

[Trapperxnumx]

Let's not talk about Wang. Too many diviners divorced. Listen to everyone - Mosk will swell, but things will get up.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Trapper7

Let's not talk about Wang. Too many diviners divorced. Listen to everyone - Mosk will swell, but things will get up

Or maybe the problem is that we do not know how to listen and listen.

[Bashkaus]

Or maybe the fact is that the wang is mishandled by the goats? some kind of virtual project. Now we have a budget adopted for a year, before the crisis they wanted to make a three-year budget, during the USSR there were five-year plans with a concrete plan of tasks. Why can not the mass-masons have scales a little larger in the long term? They created a scenario for decades, leaked it through the wang, and now everything is underway, although the plan has long been implemented and so?

[Russian-]

Quote: Trapper7

many diviners divorced.

Only Stalin did not go to everyone. Like other presidents and rulers

[trojan768]

To put aside the panic, comrades,)))))))) it is better to go while we rub the boots with shoe polish, equip the horns with cartridges, roll the OZK, wipe the gas masks, wipe the dust off the helmets, and the war will show the plan

[patsantre]

puffing?

[Russian-]

Quote: kasper

with the use of one of the countries of chemical weapons.

Iran has promised to do this well done.
In that prediction, Russia will become the # 1 Super Power in the world.

[UzRus]

According to Iran, the Middle East will explode in September or October. - here and have played out ...

[Russian-]

Quote: UzRus

here and have played out

The fate of mankind cannot be changed.
HOW differently about her - someone could predict. This is all laid down. And it should be taken as is.

[Commander]

So the world will end in December 2012, when people themselves will bomb each other using WMDs !! But Iran amer and Israel will spoil more blood!

[Skiff]

There is nothing good for geyropa and Russia to be expected from this war, and oil prices will jump from this, and we’ll have an unrealistic flow of refugees, because they’ll probably run mainly to Russia through Azerbaijan! It’s good for one country, America!

[jar0512rus]

The West will wash itself with blood in Iran and drag everyone into the slaughter! It all started with Libya, and as the scripture says, the Great War will begin with a small country, I really do not want to, of course, but it’s not just that in the world there is total militarization! And Wang is all nonsense and boltology, under her sign everyone says whatever they want and what they want!

[timhelmet]

Oh, there would be land and naval bases of the Russian Federation and China in Iran. A star-striped tail would be tightened. Do not poke - I’m definitely saying.
Such a whistle would begin.
Although, maybe everything will work out.
Or maybe there will be a whistle (which sounds very tragic).
I would not want to ...

[surveyor]

nothing good will come of it.

[Russian-]

Quote: inspector

nothing good will come of it

And in this world - everything is relative. There is no evil or good. For for some it is good, but for someone evil

[Alx1miK]

War on the verge of damn it :(

[with]

Quote: Alx1miK

War on the verge of damn it :(

- Please, Your Highness, please!
- What about ?? To me - in this? In single breasted? What are you? You do not know that no one is fighting in a single-breasted now? Disgrace! The war is at the threshold, but we are not ready! No, we are not ready for war!)))

[ilichstar]

no! we are absolutely not ready!

[Bashkaus]

I agree, not ready, and everything will be as always - the dance of Russian soldiers at the walls (enter the desired residence)

[sergey32]

It would be time to fly on vacation before the war.

[Trapperxnumx]

sergey32,
To Iran? Or to Israel?

[sergey32]

Yes, even to Egypt or Turkey. If the Middle East breaks out there, too, everything will be closed.

[Russian-]

Quote: sergey32

It would be time to fly on vacation before the war

Better to the village. In church. Life rethink and its false values

[xmike]

I read it the other day, why do a repeat article?

[red 015]

Iran is not Iraq, Americans will be paid in case of attack on them

[Russian-]

Quote: red 015

Americans will be paid in case of attack on them

This will be the beginning of their end

[Manager]

The worst thing is that when Amers get their teeth, they use nuclear weapons. Given that we are nearby, there will be an acute situation that may turn into a world meadow .... or as I call it in the last world war.
To be honest, with all the non-news to the United States, I understand perfectly well that it is for us to somehow agree with them.

[Ustas]

Quote: Manager

To be honest, with all the non-news to the United States, I understand perfectly well that it is for us to somehow agree with them.

And how to negotiate with the patients whole head?

[ilichstar]

as far as I know, Russia is actively gathering forces to the south of the country. and in the press about it are only hints. calm before the storm?

[patsantre]

it will be fun if China takes advantage of the moment we chop off a piece of territory under the guise (from the category of fiction, a silky type)

[Bashkaus]

It may chop off, grab a dozen X55 on platinum in the upper reaches of the Yellow River, etc. will return back, will add its own lands to the load, as compensation ...

[Pimply]

Daman Island remember? Now, despite the victory, it belongs to China

[Russian-]

Let's get out. We - Russians - are ready !!!
Pi ....... everything will come right now - exactly 20 minutes are left until the end of humanity and the apocallipsis
Rushed ............. ......
Personally, I'm absolutely not scared. And YOU - should not be. We are ready

[Pimply]

The question is whether it will fly with an extended life

[Russian-]

Quote: Pimply

The question is whether it will fly

You would have flunked your technological investment, otherwise I’ll arrange for you to expel demons from lepers (judging by the avatar) - and there’s a lot of demons

[Sars]

Ayatola Ali Khamenei is a serious old man.
The Americans are 90 percent Jewish about their plans for bombing Iran, but they seem to be like Comrade Trotsky once, ....... (trusted)!
And then Bashar al-Assad has a "grudge" on them ....

[DRUZ]

there will be no war, they will not dare. Ayatollah is also bluffing

[Delink]

They will not pull two countries, the navel will be torn there.

"He came, shit, got fucked," that's the slogan of amers. We did it for you, and then solve your problems yourself.

[wolverine7778]

Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas with Islamic Jihad in Gaza are ready to support Iran with attacks on Israel from the north and southwest.
Very controversial. Islamic Jihad and Hamas i.e. Sunni-style Palestinians have already disassociated themselves from Iran, Khmasovites have fallen for the Syrian Sunnis, Iran has sided with Assad. In retaliation, Iran cut off financial support for Hamas. And the Shiite Hezbollah is more designed for defense than for an offensive.

[Pimply]

In addition, Hamas remembers well Cast Lead.

[rock09]

there were only a few years left until the third world war and Iran will become the first participant

[MC]

Quote: DRUZ

there will be no war, they will not dare. Ayatollah is also bluffing

They will dare, how! Am you need this war how to give drink !!!

[gorkoxnumx]

It seems to me that Israel will cope with a Jew once had a chance to fight simultaneously with several states.

[pirat1966]

Well, since everyone refers to Vanga, I'll go and see what they write about it: "2010, as Vanga says in his predictions, is the date of the start of the third world war, which will radically change the appearance of the globe. It will start as usual, but later will be used chemical and nuclear weapons.

2011 - No vegetation, no animals left in the Northern Hemisphere. All living things will die as a result of chemical and radioactive fallout. But that is not all - Muslims will start a nuclear war against the surviving Europeans.

2014 - by this time, most of the survivors will suffer from skin cancer, ulcers and other diseases (a consequence of the chemical infection of the planet).

2016 - Europe is practically deserted, only a few survived the war. "

PS I took the average option, but the main thing is that there is not a single old mention by Vanga that the war will begin in 2012, everything falls on 2009-2010. So someone again is trying to rearrange dates in order to catch up with fear I do not deny that war is possible, but do not specifically rig the predictions of anyone.

[escobar]

I don’t understand what the Amer’s plan might be .. As there is no opposition in Iran. The land operation of death is similar, Iranians will consume them alive. and stretch out over the years. If the amers are already openly promoted to the Syrian bandits, then Russia should ship s-300 to Iran and possibly prevent a third world one. Who knows, maybe this very day wakes up the world holiday of liberation and peace.

[Pimply]

There is no talk about the opposition - it’s funny enough, especially against the backdrop of the multimillion-dollar protests that took place there, and the current impoverishment of the population.

[escobar]

Quote: Pimply

No about the opposition - funny enough

This is your friend Hilary whispered to you - that's not funny for me ..

[Pimply]

How do I feel about Hillary's girlfriend?

If you yourself have not seen a video from Tehran, if you have not talked with people who live there, have not read the blogs there - these are your problems, dear, not mine. The opposition is there, strong enough. However, oppositional youth were not supported by the middle class and the merchants, as it was in the same Egypt, as well as the poor - the situation was relatively stable. Now, for example, in Tehran, in the capital, queues are being lined up for subsidized chicken.

[Yarbay]

Dear Eugene!
Do not read all sorts of blogs!
Do you, too, like the unhappy professor think Iran in the Middle Ages ??
Do you really think that having learned about the war with America and Israel, the opposition will take to the streets with the flag of Israel ??
The trouble is the citizens of your countries that you believe fairy tales about the backwardness of the enemy and underestimate them !!
Yes, I’m sure that Iran must be put in place, but it must be done wisely!
Iran has made great progress in various fields and this cannot be missed!

[Pimply]

Naturally, it will not work. I didn’t talk about this.

I seem to have noted that the expression about the lack of opposition in the presence of multimillion-dollar speeches sounds rather funny.

Iran is making excellent progress. A copy of the Phantom, photoshop on rocket launches, queues for a chicken. A copy of Cobra was recently made.

No, Iran is not a dummy. But overestimate it - also, excuse me, is not worth it.

[Ruslan]

Quote: Yarbay

Dear Eugene!
Do not read all sorts of blogs!
Do you, too, like the unhappy professor think Iran in the Middle Ages ??
Do you really think that having learned about the war with America and Israel, the opposition will take to the streets with the flag of Israel ??
The trouble is the citizens of your countries that you believe fairy tales about the backwardness of the enemy and underestimate them !!

- I agree only to add that today it’s stupid to argue about the military potential of Israel and Lebanon - believe that both states have weapons that can put an end to the history of one of them (for example, Iran just needs to supply missiles with non-enriched uranium and spray it on the territory of Israel not to mention chemical weapon) . The question is different - who needs it and is profitable? In my opinion, not Iranians, non-Jews living in Israel. This is beneficial to the mafia financial elites in the United States and a number of European countries because it is necessary to raise the economy from the crisis for the wake of the war, but the fact that their fellow tribesmen will perish in Israel is not of interest to them as they were not interested from 1939 to 1945, because then they also raised the US economy with the great depression for World War 2 brushes.

[Pimply]

An attempt at such a supply, taking into account the actions of intelligence, is unlikely to have a beneficial effect on both Iran and Lebanon.

And - "do not read Soviet newspapers at breakfast" (c). Sorry, but these fabrications are such nonsense.

[Bashkaus]

HA, if the middle class, who have a job, family and children begin to support brainless youth, which, due to youthful maximalism, the lack of an established worldview and social status in general, draws on certain feats, the world will really end.
Your opposition youth must be torn with blood straps, fingers broken or even torn off with their roots, so that they would not print or clatter around the clave, but would read books, study and receive education, maybe someone wiser during this time.
You set the youth as an example, let the youth not be offended, do not make a jerk to the story!

[Pimply]

The fact is that now this middle class is seriously declining. And youth in Iran 61% of the population (May 2009). And given the fact that half of the budget is being built from energy exports ...

Dear, as a rule, it is youth who creates history. Tahrir, South Korea, and so on. You should be reminded that Lenin was a little more than 40 when he organized the revolution, and how many young people were in the ranks of its founders. Do not be silly.

[Bashkaus]

At the expense of impoverishment, I’ll tell you this: did you study at school? do you know the law of conservation of strength and energy? If they live in the USA, it means that they are poor somewhere. If in the USA they have already completely snickered, then somewhere they have completely become impoverished. Remember once and for all, poverty is a conditional concept, it is usually associated with the lack of the ability to satisfy material needs. But it so happened that all over the world, besides the USA and Europe themselves, there are simply simply other values ​​not related to the consumption of goods. Do you just know that in Iran there is no judicial percentage? their banks just do it somehow without interest on the loan. It’s clear that for Jews this is not a format ...

[Pimply]

You are aware that this applies only to physics and mathematics, and not to economics, and economics is the sum of several other factors, in particular disability, education, etc., etc.

[... in motu]

Quote: escobar

Russia should ship s-300 to Iran

... at least talk about it.

[Vladimir 70]

I was looking for the difference between an Islamic fanatic with a nuclear bomb and Anglo-Saxon with a nuclear bomb. Found only one thing: an Islamic fanatic will use nuclear weapons even on his territory, for the sake of his convictions disregarding your lifeAnglo-Saxon will use nuclear weapons for its own purposes, but only on foreign territory and against an adversary who cannot respond with the same. Also, Anglo-Saxon with a clear conscience will sacrifice an ally.

[Pimply]

This can be said about everyone.

[Vladimir 70]

This can be said about everyone.

But for some reason, only the Anglo-Saxons do this.

[Pimply]

No, dear. And there are many examples of this.

[Vladimir 70]

Well then, give at least one example of application or a decision on the use of nuclear weapons not by Anglo-Saxons.

[Pimply]

You are brilliant. Steam room further. Hover the brain to someone else 8)

[dominion]

Good luck to Iran in confronting Zionists of all stripes!

[Pimply]

This is unlikely to help them.

[Warik]

Hold on to our Iranian brothers to the last, it is necessary to inflict as much damage as possible on am and his friends, so that they do not have a desire, and most importantly the opportunity to poke your nose wherever you should. Russia would begin to fight for you, but you yourself understand that there will be an end to the world. May Allah help you.

[Warik]

Hold on to our Iranian brothers to the last, it is necessary to inflict as much damage as possible on the Amers, so that they do not have a desire, and most importantly the opportunity to poke your nose wherever you should. Russia would begin to fight for you, but you yourself understand that there will be an end to the world. May Allah help you.

[aleks3897]

Everything has begun ...!

[DNA]

Are we really on the verge of a new world redivision (yes, it has already begun long ago thanks to the amers). It seems there will be a great massacre history does not teach mankind every hundred years there are major military conflicts that will show us a new century that has been going on for 12 years (and soon the centenary of the beginning of World War I). Really these damned Americans do not understand what we are on the verge of a new world war. Although it seems to me it will not be the same as past wars. The great powers are faced with the choice of which side to take.
Today is Syria, tomorrow is Iran and who is next on the US list in the war for resources lying falsely covered by a veil of democracy. And the USA is getting closer to the Caspian.

[suharev-52]

The United States also wants to reap on world resources acquired for green papers. Otherwise, collapse. Therefore, they need war. Sincerely.

[Knowing]

Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas with Islamic Jihad in Gaza are ready to support Iran with attacks on Israel from the north and southwest.
This will be news. This is a real war, as in Vietnam, and not a simple exchange of blows like Libya or Palestine.
All TV companies will explode simply.
But on the other hand, Iran’s tanks are very inefficient, as well as small air defense, aircraft are old, soldiers are less technologically equipped. But if you correctly dispose of what is, you can fight back.