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Three divisions of the "destroyers" of the Crimean bridge deployed on the Black and Azov Seas

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Three divisions of the "destroyers" of the Crimean bridge deployed on the Black and Azov Seas

The newest Ukrainian missile system with the Neptune anti-ship missile, formerly called the NSDC secretary Turchinov the “destroyer” of the Crimean bridge, will be put into service in 2021, with three divisions planned to be deployed. This was stated in an interview with the Ukrainian service of Radio Liberty by the commander of the country's Navy Alexey Neizhpapa.


According to him, the Naval forces of Ukraine intend to deploy in three years three divisions of the RCC "Neptune", with two divisions being deployed in the Black Sea, and one in Azov.

On the question of "when," I think next year. And about “how much,” I’ll answer that three divisions of coastal missile systems are planned. Two - on the Black Sea, one - on the Azov Sea. Tests have shown that nothing prevents the defeat of several targets simultaneously. Weapon unequivocally effective, the main task now is to get the "Neptunes" as soon as possible and correctly apply them

- He told reporters.

Previously, Neizhpapa said that Ukraine received a “full-fledged coastal-based anti-ship complex” and is moving from the concept of naval forces “waiting for the enemy near their coasts” to the concept of the Navy, which “will meet the enemy near its coasts”.

In early June this year, it was reported that the Navy plans to get into service three divisions of the Neftun LCD-360MC complexes with R-360 anti-ship missiles. The production of rockets was planned to be launched at the Pavlogradsky Chemical Plant NPO in the near future, but without specific instructions.
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  1. Bashkirkhan
    Bashkirkhan 5 July 2020 11: 25
    -4
    "Neptune" can be successfully used against the LDNR. 150 kg warhead weight. The semi-handicraft production of 1-10 missiles per year does not fundamentally differ from the production of single items. And obviously he can.
    1. boss
      boss 5 July 2020 11: 35
      26
      The success of the application will depend only on the direction of the wind.
      If there is a north, then self-detonation is likely to happen
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 5 July 2020 13: 29
        +4
        the main task now is to get "Neptune" as soon as possible and use them correctly

        Where are you going to use them, clown?
      2. mvg
        mvg 5 July 2020 13: 31
        -21 qualifying.
        will depend only on the direction of the wind.

        For a long time for a dropout (replaced the word, did not find a suitable one) mow? Or is it impromptu? I think the pros put about the same intelligence with you. Somewhere in the region of 70-75. There is where to strive.
      3. hydrox
        hydrox 6 July 2020 08: 56
        +3
        If at least one such "toy" in the hands of the Skakuasi works, and, don't let the boh, hit the target, then yes, a strong NORTHERN wind will blow, as a result of which there will be nothing Ukrainian of Skakuasia "today, and ever, ever and ever. "
    2. Alex777
      Alex777 5 July 2020 11: 40
      19
      For use against LDNR on Neptune there must be a GOS with the ability to work on ground targets.
      We have appeared on the X-35U relatively recently.
      In that version of the documentation that went to Ukraine, there is no such possibility. There is a chance that they completed it themselves, but I doubt it. hi
      1. convoy
        convoy 5 July 2020 11: 47
        17
        Three divisions of the "destroyers" of the Crimean bridge deployed on the Black and Azov Seas

        On their outskirts, EVERYTHING was destroyed. The space, shipbuilding, and tank industries (they built the whole Union) ..
        Now they want to destroy something in Russia, on the tip of the State Department ..
        Well, let's "brothers" .. Try it, only then no one will save you .. Everything will be tough !!! And the cry "And we are for sho? Will not give a ride!". negative
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 5 July 2020 12: 46
          +2
          Quote: Konvoi
          Well, let's "brothers" .. Try it, only then no one will save you .. Everything will be tough !!! And the cry "And we are for sho? Will not give a ride.!

          The Russian military leadership has already been informed by "its people" where the bases of these "Neptune" divisions will be and has taken appropriate measures to send the "Caliber" and "Iskander-M" complexes to these places, well, of course, to the headquarters where the "bridge destroyers" are sitting. , and simpler "keyboard press".
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 5 July 2020 22: 36
            0
            Quote: tihonmarine
            to the headquarters where the "bridge destroyers" are sitting

            On any "destroyers of the Crimean bridge", to some of whom (we will not name names), there are "destroyers of the Ukrainian statehood." And they are deployed not only in Crimea. The Sumerians are well aware of this, and therefore, apart from shaking the air with their mouth, nothing will happen.
          2. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice 6 July 2020 19: 16
            0
            took appropriate measures to send the "Caliber", "Iskander-M" complexes to these places, well, of course, to the headquarters where the "bridge destroyers" or, more simply, the "keyboard pushers" sit.

            Israel would immediately destroy the divisions in such a situation. After all, Ukraine is in a war with Russia.
            1. Black Colonel
              Black Colonel 7 July 2020 09: 13
              +1
              I agree about Israel - they do not look back at anyone. The main thing is the security of the country.
      2. Avior
        Avior 5 July 2020 11: 51
        +8
        On Neptune, a completely different GOS.
        They were originally positioned as capable of firing on land.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 5 July 2020 12: 03
          0
          On Neptune, a completely different GOS.
          They were originally positioned as capable of firing on land.

          Sure? Vick still hangs that the X-35 on the ground can not.
          Earlier Neizhpapa stated that Ukraine received "full-fledged anti-ship complex" coast-based

          It is possible that the Yankees provided assistance. Though...
          Point-U ukram did not help. And Neptune will not help.
          1. Avior
            Avior 5 July 2020 12: 21
            -2
            X-35 and can not
            On Neptune, a completely different GOS, with the x-35 unconnected.
            From x-35, Neptune has an engine manufactured by Motor Sich.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 5 July 2020 12: 35
              +4
              X-35 and can not

              X-35U can. yes
              1. Avior
                Avior 5 July 2020 13: 30
                -1
                . Vick still hangs that the X-35 on the ground can not.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 5 July 2020 13: 43
                  +2
                  Azerbaijan will not be able to buy coastal missile system because of the position of the Russian military

                  https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3820453
                  Now the issue of deliveries of “Ball” to the armed forces of Azerbaijan is not discussed, says another senior source of Kommersant, because there is a “very delicate geopolitical nuance”. In recent years, the homing missile type X-35 has been modernized to defeat not only sea, but also ground targets. “We would not really like this weapon to be used in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict,” he summed up. A similar work, we note, was done with the homing head of the Onyx cruise missile, which is part of the Bastion DBK: in November 2016, the military first used it to strike ground targets in Syria, destroying the industrial facilities of radical Islamists.

                  wink
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 5 July 2020 13: 47
                    0
                    There is no doubt that the Russian h-35u can work by land
                    But you wrote about the Soviet x-35, the documentation for which was in Ukraine
                    She could not.
                    And the x-35u is significantly redone for a purely Russian production, including the engine, there were no documents for it in Ukraine
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 5 July 2020 13: 53
                      +1
                      This is what I wrote above:
                      For use against LDNR on Neptune there must be a GOS with the ability to work on ground targets.
                      We have appeared on the X-35U relatively recently.
                      In that version of the documentation that went to Ukraine, there is no such possibility. There is a chance that they completed it themselves, but I doubt it.

                      This is what you:
                      There is no doubt that the Russian h-35u can work by land
                      But you wrote about the Soviet x-35, the documentation for which was in Ukraine
                      She could not.
                      And the x-35u is significantly redone for a purely Russian production, including the engine, there were no documents for it in Ukraine

                      Do not see the difference. drinks
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 5 July 2020 14: 29
                        -3
                        GOS is completely different, not the modified old one.
                      2. Alex777
                        Alex777 5 July 2020 17: 56
                        0
                        The minus is not mine. wink
                      3. Alex777
                        Alex777 20 July 2020 12: 15
                        0
                        https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4089329.html
      3. Bogatyrev
        Bogatyrev 5 July 2020 12: 10
        +1
        Why are they so confused with the revision? Was the X-35 a perfectly normal anti-ship seeker?
      4. Pavel57
        Pavel57 5 July 2020 13: 36
        +3
        For shooting on land you need guidance on GPS.
        1. Avior
          Avior 5 July 2020 13: 37
          +1
          Also at sea at long range
      5. Alex777
        Alex777 20 July 2020 12: 14
        0
        https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4089329.html
    3. Olgovich
      Olgovich 5 July 2020 13: 13
      -2
      Quote: Alex777
      For use against LDNR on Neptune there must be a GOS with the ability to work on ground targets.

      They and already in service and tested Tochka U complexes could not really be used. and the new complex is completely doubtful.

      As for the allegations of their attacks on the bridge, I think it is necessary to declare cheico and unequivocally that, without any delay, the launch area and Kiev will also be erased from the ground.

      and let them think ...
      1. Maximilian37
        Maximilian37 6 July 2020 00: 03
        0
        why Kiev? so, they speak Russian there. Enough, the objects of "state power and military self-government" soldier
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 6 July 2020 06: 17
          -1
          Quote: Maximilian37
          why Kiev? so, they speak Russian there. Enough, the objects of "state power and military self-government

          It’s easier to understand.

          Russian-speaking far from all Russophiles, especially in Kiev.
    4. mvg
      mvg 5 July 2020 13: 35
      +7
      There is a chance that they completed it themselves, but I doubt it.

      Even Granite, Basalt, etc. 80 years of release can work on the ground. Bad, but they work. Even more, Termite works. The city is completely falling. Yuzhmash had documentation, and Chalomey was a good rocket launcher.
      1. Avior
        Avior 5 July 2020 13: 38
        +1
        Yuzhmash has nothing to do with Neptune
      2. bayard
        bayard 5 July 2020 17: 25
        +3
        Quote: mvg
        Yuzhmash had documentation, and Chalomey was a good rocket

        Chelomei had nothing to do with Yuzhmash; Yangel created it.
    5. Holgerton
      Holgerton 5 July 2020 14: 30
      +4
      They did not have documentation for the ARLGSN, they did not get any documentation, with the Union in Kharkov only gathered to mass-produce hulls and assemble missiles from ready-made components, to which it did not come to light because the development of the rocket itself was delayed. Additionally, on site there was still a part of auxiliary avionics, solid fuel for accelerating accelerators and engines.
      GOS X-35 (U) has nothing to do with GOS R-360, except perhaps similar weight and size parameters. Their GOS is their internal development from Radionix.
      I don’t know from which sofa you generally took that they got documentation on the GOS, given that Russia itself adopted the X-35 only in the 2000s, and before that there was only a small-scale experimental assembly for which it actually produced parts and assemblies for different factories.
  2. doubovitski
    doubovitski 5 July 2020 11: 53
    +1
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    "Neptune" can be successfully used against the LDNR. 150 kg warhead weight. The semi-handicraft production of 1-10 missiles per year does not fundamentally differ from the production of single items. And obviously he can.

    Only with the threat of homemade products, will they get quite professional mallet.
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 5 July 2020 12: 38
      +7
      Quote: doubovitski
      Only with the threat of homemade products, will they get quite professional mallet.

      Ukraine is still not the Central African Republic or Somalia. All documentation, samples were available, key components were produced. Including an engine that Ukraine itself would never, in principle, have made. Glider - not so important, but still.
      The GOS is new, but the GOS of the "hit the target" level is the simplest thing with today's electronics. Despite the fact that there was a technical base in Ukraine, and ARLGSN for URVV were quite produced, that is, people with some experience were not only in abstract electronics. The fact that 50 years ago in electronics was a high-tech of insane complexity, today - in Chinese consumer goods for $ 2.50 for ten pieces. There are small-scale production of guided missiles of various types, solid fuel for accelerators - already a giant plant from the USSR left, with all serial technologies and recipes. Ukrainian anti-ship missiles a la "clone of Uranus" is only a matter of time and desire. And it's not homemade.
      1. Avior
        Avior 5 July 2020 13: 32
        0
        With the engine, it was just the easiest
        Motor Sich has long been producing engines for cruise missiles
        And Neptune is not an x-35 clone, they have different sizes
      2. Vlad Pervovich
        Vlad Pervovich 5 July 2020 13: 35
        -2
        Turchinov should be taken out as Burnash, and instead of gorini, sent to Jegurd
  3. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 5 July 2020 15: 04
    +1
    It’s expensive to apply .... there’s a Point
  4. sivuch
    sivuch 5 July 2020 15: 08
    +3
    Neptune "can be used against the LDNR with success. 150 kg warhead weight.
    And you can hammer in nails with a microscope. With approximately equal efficiency.
    1. 72jora72
      72jora72 5 July 2020 22: 24
      0
      And you can hammer in nails with a microscope. With approximately equal efficiency.
      I think that it will be all the same to you than your head was broken, with a hammer or a microscope ...........
  5. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 5 July 2020 16: 04
    0
    He has not yet been accepted into service and knowing the Banderlands, vague doubts torment me. Every week they experience the latest, purely local weapons systems, and then everything calms down. For a long time, maybe forever.
  • nPuBaTuP
    nPuBaTuP 5 July 2020 11: 26
    -1
    Destroy with point strikes right at the exit of the factory gate .....
    1. boss
      boss 5 July 2020 11: 29
      +6
      Let's be consistent, together with the plant, more reliable, only at night.
      And the workers will not suffer and the inhabitants of the surrounding areas will enjoy the fireworks)
      1. nPuBaTuP
        nPuBaTuP 5 July 2020 11: 31
        -2
        it's too radical, don’t find lol hi
        But in principle, I do not mind :)
      2. mdsr
        mdsr 5 July 2020 12: 27
        +9
        Quote: patron
        Let's be consistent, together with the plant, more reliable, only at night.
        And the workers will not suffer and the inhabitants of the surrounding areas will enjoy the fireworks)

        The Israelis do that. No factory, no problem
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 5 July 2020 15: 04
      -2
      Cheaper to give money to workers and fire
  • private person
    private person 5 July 2020 11: 26
    +2
    And suicide bombers will serve in these divisions, since in the event of a missile launch towards the bridge, these divisions will cease to exist. I think there are no people who want to try their luck to attack the bridge, except perhaps Durchinov.
    1. boss
      boss 5 July 2020 11: 32
      16
      They will plant the same 18-year-old fools, the same as those mortar men who fired on residential areas of Donbass.
      When they were captured, drooling and snot that they didn’t know where to shoot, they were told by the authorities that they were based on the militants' bases, and they only had coordinate numbers on their hands.
      1. oldzek
        oldzek 5 July 2020 13: 23
        -3
        that's just uh Durchinov himself at that moment will be far away in the west ...
      2. private person
        private person 5 July 2020 15: 08
        -1
        They will plant the same 18-year-old fools, the same as those mortar men who fired on residential areas of Donbass.

        You do not confuse a genital organ with a finger. Donbass is one thing for the shelling of which, by and large, they did not ask anyone (whatever you say, but this is the territory of Ukraine at that time). It is dumb to give the order to fools, even Durchinov understands this one word, but to openly attack Russia is too much.
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 5 July 2020 11: 30
    -3
    in the "near future", but without specific instructions.

    Well, very soon laughing
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 5 July 2020 11: 32
    +9
    I can’t understand one thing. How can a rocket destroy a drawn bridge? request
    Well, if only the rocket is also painted laughing
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 5 July 2020 11: 39
      +5
      Quote: Lipchanin
      I can’t understand one thing. How can a rocket destroy a drawn bridge?

      There’s a chip in the other: Why rivet anti-ship missiles to destroy of the bridge?
      1. Avior
        Avior 5 July 2020 11: 49
        0
        They were originally made as universal
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 5 July 2020 11: 52
          +1
          Quote: Avior
          They were originally made as universal

          Then why focus on "anti-ship"?
          Earlier, Neizhpapa said that Ukraine received a "full-fledged anti-ship complex"

          The way of thinking I don’t understand... (but this, of course, does not mean anything). request
          1. Avior
            Avior 5 July 2020 13: 35
            -1
            Do not know
            Maybe it’s RCC that’s important for sailors
            Actually, all or most cruise missiles with radar seeker are anti-ship missiles with the ability to shoot at coastal targets
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 5 July 2020 13: 48
              -1
              Quote: Avior
              Do not know

              Exactly! Even the non-brothers themselves do not know. That is why they rush about with the "target choice".
              1. Avior
                Avior 5 July 2020 18: 13
                -1
                made a universal rocket.
                This is quite logical.
        2. sivuch
          sivuch 5 July 2020 15: 15
          +1
          Then the question arises - which warhead?
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 5 July 2020 12: 20
        +1
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        Why rivet anti-ship rockets to destroy a bridge?

        A bridge over the sea is laid, then a ship’s bridge lol
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 5 July 2020 13: 49
          0
          Quote: Lipchanin
          A bridge over the sea is laid, then a ship’s bridge

          Logical.
      3. sivuch
        sivuch 5 July 2020 15: 14
        -1
        This is the anti-ship version of the anti-ship missile.
    2. doubovitski
      doubovitski 5 July 2020 11: 57
      0
      Quote: Lipchanin
      I can’t understand one thing. How can a rocket destroy a drawn bridge? request
      Well, if only the rocket is also painted laughing

      Let them take over the experience of the Koreans who drew Washington, dumped by the gallant Korean missiles.
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 5 July 2020 11: 37
    +2
    Tests have shown that nothing prevents the defeat of several targets simultaneously.

    There is a misconception that "brick does not give change" ©. And here we are not talking about him.
  • Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 5 July 2020 11: 39
    +3
    to the concept of the Navy, which "will meet the enemy at its shores."


    Cool.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 July 2020 11: 41
    +7
    There is a joke in every joke. In 12, I talked to the smartest colonel in the box. So, on the basis of Radio Liberty broadcasts, he predicted that as soon as Yanik began to stir up Europe, Ukraine would be split. So it happened, our Crimea. Radio Liberty for the programs against Yanik can be awarded a medal for the Crimea. Here again they give the floor to those who need it. Wait.
    1. Willywonka
      Willywonka 5 July 2020 14: 02
      -2
      beauty, and only .... Will we tamp the balance? We have included the "subsidized region" (about 100 thousand pensioners for 12-13 years, a short holiday season). Until 14, Ukraine had about 50-50 in parliament, that is, 50 percent of the pro-Russian electorate. Never in this situation did the question of NATO even arise, the communists have always been part of the Ukrainian parliament. What do we have as a result? Crimea, Donbass (practically on the balance sheet), + NATO 450 km from Moscow in the near future (and everything goes to this), the impossibility of obtaining a pro-Russian majority in the Ukrainian parliament (the communists flew out, Donbass and Crimea too), sanctions, which according to the GDP "certainly have an impact." Ukraine was going to send troops to Crimea, but Obama and Merkel dissuaded from such a step .... In words, they will always talk about returning, in fact, this is a way of endless pressure. The West has solved the problem for itself - the pro-Western course of Ukraine (it was difficult with Donbass and Crimea). Here's a story. In general ... Russia got the Crimea, but lost influence over the whole of Ukraine. Yes, I forgot the ROC in Ukraine has covered itself with a copper basin as a result, or rather, it is covered, and this is also an instrument of influence. Russia has lost a huge market, such as the banking services market (see what is happening with Russian banks in Ukraine. They cannot even sell.), The IT market (hello Rambler, after the VC ban, there are many examples), the gas market (what was there? 50 million cubic meters of gas consumption, the largest buyer in Europe). What have you achieved? In the near future, the United States will enter Europe with its LNG, Ukraine, due to the loss of Donbass, has stopped buying such volumes. Che is there with the company "Gazprom", which 10 years ago was predicted "the most expensive company in the world, with an approximate capitalization of 1 trillion." These are the results.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 5 July 2020 14: 27
        +1
        Ukraine has stopped buying such volumes of gas from Russia, the industry has come up with kerdyk, but it’s not yet complete. Europe only needs land and forest from Ukraine, the rest is in excess. The question is who to sell. It’s also more expensive for Ukraine.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 5 July 2020 16: 58
          0
          And in general, for Russia, the light has wedged in Ukraine? Russia has no other problems. Cows because of the heat are badly milked, rabbits do not go for a divorce. We will not abandon the LC and the DNI !!!
        2. Willywonka
          Willywonka 5 July 2020 18: 21
          +1
          Not such a sequence. Donbass, one of the main was gas consumers. Is that the Mariupol Iron and Steel Works remained. Eventually ? what do we have? Obviously not win win situation. Europe ultimately has a huge buffer that simply seeks to jump into NATO. As a result, 450-500 km from Kagarlyk to Moscow. And that’s all - it’s bogged down. Russia solves the problems that 10 years ago and 40 years in advance did not need to be solved. Was there a problem with the Black Sea Fleet? No rent extended for 20 years. Was there a problem with joining NATO? no ... this would not have happened for another 30-40 years, because there was a balance of representative power in Ukraine. Almost always 50 to 50, and NATO requires much more. In Ukraine, there was a radical breakdown of sentiment on NATO and on many other issues. What do you think the loss of the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine means for Russia? And this copper basin will simply gradually cover.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 5 July 2020 18: 50
            -1
            The Russian Orthodox Church seems to be separated from the state, they decide. Ukraine would not have come up, partners would have come up with something else. And the dollar is doing life-giving miracles. Even the Crimea bridge helped Europe to build and they spat on these sanctions like us. The fishing fleet Norwegians and Icelanders are in line with their projects. Turks are the head vessels for us like rivets. And so everywhere.
            1. Willywonka
              Willywonka 5 July 2020 20: 21
              +1
              Separated of course from the state, and so what? But in fact it is a huge lever of influence that after all these events will simply fade. Europe and the Crimean bridge? What is it about? Sberbank does not go to the Crimea and you are about Europe. There, Siemens installed turbines through third parties and grabbed the gift in the form of penalties. All that awaits us in fact ... this is a huge number of lawsuits on property, which, after 2-4 years of preparation, will go in vain to Europe.
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 5 July 2020 20: 33
                -1
                Siemens and we bent down. I would have been silent and would have ordered an order for 100 turbines of high power. And so call me. What can they have seen in 6 years. Something not to swell with hunger. Courts are ridiculous. How much European American money has been invested in Russia ...
                1. Willywonka
                  Willywonka 5 July 2020 21: 37
                  0
                  we are not the main customer of Siemens, as well as we are not the main customer of Mercedes, Bosch, etc. We are a very small market share for them. "Have you seen it in 6 years?" The problem is different, namely, that these sanctions are getting stronger and that they are designed for a long game. This is the so-called delayed effect. The effect is in the absence of access to technology, access to markets, etc. "How much money has been invested" is the problem: capital is leaking and will be leaking, and this is taxes and jobs.
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                  2. tralflot1832
                    tralflot1832 5 July 2020 21: 51
                    +1
                    Some leave, others come. Some American capital is in no hurry to leave Russia. Even American pension funds are on the stock exchange.
                    1. Willywonka
                      Willywonka 6 July 2020 08: 44
                      -1
                      Read the rbc news. The Americans are curtailing investment in the Russian Federation. The market of any developing country is interesting. The trend is important. And she, alas and ah, speaks of curtailing investment.
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 6 July 2020 00: 41
        0
        To learn .Americans buy gas from Novotek, a transshipment in the north of Norway. Novatek is the only company in the world that can manipulate prices due to the ambient temperature. You can’t deceive physics, our liquefaction will always be cheaper and much more. Americans have come up with. From Norway Europe’s leverage is shorter, profits are greater. America, America, why are you fooling Ukraine .. It turns out like that. Money doesn’t smell. The capitalist for profit is not only selling Mom but also Rodina. Regular supplies of liquefied gas to China have begun early, since they don’t want to buy shtatovskiy in those volumes that the United States needs. Friends need to be held. I won’t be surprised if the Poles, with the help of the United States, injected Ukraine our dictatorial gas under the guise of a democratic one. So everything is not so bad with us. Yes, we divided Urals separately Sibirian Light separately. The latter is hundreds differs from the reference Saudi. Where the Saudis are where we are. Egypt helped us to raise prices so the tankers went around Africa. And this time.
        1. Maximilian37
          Maximilian37 6 July 2020 01: 42
          0
          where to read about it?
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 6 July 2020 02: 00
            +1
            All the information has been collected over the years from different sites. Marine traffic, Teknoblog oil gas, Novotek gives information strictly dosed, nothing more. Periodically good articles gives Nakhushev I don’t remember the name at work. His hobby is oil, gas is safety. I’m just throwing out articles Internet because of my preferences. Everything has to be filtered.
        2. Willywonka
          Willywonka 6 July 2020 08: 50
          0
          The Americans could buy both oil and gas from us last year or this, but that's another story altogether. To solve local problems, because ... they do not have infrastructure, such as infrastructure for LNG or pipes for oil delivery to the coast. Americans have become the largest net producer of oil and gas, and infrastructure for export takes time. So they are creating it at an accelerated pace. Create in the USA and in Europe.
    2. Maximilian37
      Maximilian37 6 July 2020 00: 20
      0
      If you had written this in 12, then yes! And with such success, you can weave Viktor Sukhorukov here with his phrase "you bastards will answer me for Sevastopol", and that was 12 years before your "conversation with the colonel" wink
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 6 July 2020 01: 18
        0
        You can’t say anything, Sukhorukov’s words were prophetic!
  • major147
    major147 5 July 2020 11: 42
    +3
    In my opinion, one launch of "Neptune" is enough for this misunderstanding, called "Ukraine", to be destroyed.
    1. convoy
      convoy 5 July 2020 11: 50
      -1
      Quote: major147
      In my opinion, one launch of "Neptune" is enough for this misunderstanding, called "Ukraine", to be destroyed.

      Yes, they will soon begin to eat each other .... Kolomoisky already dumped ..!
    2. Maximilian37
      Maximilian37 6 July 2020 04: 46
      0
      your lie, major major, you can’t do without a ground operation, and here lies the most difficult.
      1. major147
        major147 6 July 2020 09: 55
        +1
        Quote: Maximilian37
        your untruth, major

        This is already a nuance, and the launch of their "super-rocket" may be a detonator of events, followed by the "abolition" of the territorial entity "Ukraine".
  • rocket757
    rocket757 5 July 2020 11: 58
    +2
    Unfortunately, they have frostbite. From top to bottom.
    Danger for themselves, first of all.
    1. Maximilian37
      Maximilian37 6 July 2020 01: 44
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Unfortunately, they have frostbite. From top to bottom.
      Danger for themselves, first of all.

      The main thing is not to stop in Poti, but to continue to carry the Russian world!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 July 2020 07: 12
        0
        Quote: Maximilian37
        The main thing is not to stop in Poti, but to continue to carry the Russian world!

        A waste of time and resources, bring someone something in the beak !!! Swam, this RAKE is OLD !!!
        Here we have a country, we must accept everyone who accepts, saves, PROTECTS the Russian world !!! With territory or not, these are already details.
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 5 July 2020 11: 59
    +5
    Ukraine received a "full-fledged anti-ship complex" coastal and is moving from the concept of naval forces

    Strongly resembles the Bal complex in the export version with the Kh-35 Uranium missile.
    in the Soviet period, the mass production of 3M24 (X-35) missiles was planned to be organized at the Kharkov Aviation Plant (the current KhGAPP), so in Ukraine there is, apparently, a full set of design documentation for this missile, as well as the production of its engine
    Cooperation between Ukraine and Russia on the production of X-35 missiles began in 1993. This is evidenced by the contents of Appendix 7 to the Agreement between the Government of the Russian Federation and the Government of Ukraine on the principles of cooperation in the field of production and supply of aviation equipment of February 8, 1993, “List of special equipment manufactured by enterprises of Ukraine and Russia”.
    The reference sample of the 78 product (X-35 missile) was exported by the Zvezda-Strela Federal State Unitary Enterprise to the Luch State Kiev Design Bureau in 2002 as part of the implementation of the Agreement between the Government of Ukraine and the Government of the Russian Federation on production and scientific-technical cooperation enterprises of the defense industry from November 18, 1993



    Now we are reaping the fruits of the thoughtless, treacherous policies of the 90s and early 2000s.
    If the complex is brought to mind without childhood diseases in the control and guidance system. it’s a rather effective weapon, although IMHO is obsolete and has almost exhausted the modernization resource, but it can create problems, especially considering in whose hands it is located.
  • HAM
    HAM 5 July 2020 11: 59
    +7
    It is necessary to release the ice ax and write on it: "Turchinov's Destroyer". alaverdy - there will be screams ...
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 5 July 2020 12: 41
      0
      Quote: HAM
      It is necessary to release the ice ax and write on it: "Turchinov's Destroyer". alaverdy - there will be screams ...

      Decide - you have an ice ax "in the head of Turchinov -Ukraine"is it necessary, or just screams (like six years in a row)?
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 July 2020 12: 07
    +1
    With missiles in Ukraine, the problem sometimes flies in the wrong direction.
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 5 July 2020 12: 41
    +1
    The Pavlograd chemical plant will cope with the production of these missiles in iron, the Americans inspected it several years ago, and guidance systems, in the absence of their own developments in Ukraine, will be bought abroad, because the Ukrainians mastered the production of their own ATGMs Korsar and Stugna, so that our Russian Armed Forces will have more several potential goals in the form of these three divisions
    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 5 July 2020 17: 12
      0
      A few months ago, the Pavlograd Chemical Plant (the country's only producer of solid fuel for the Neptune complex) practically ceased its work, about 700 highly qualified specialists were fired.
      According to American analysts, at least four divisions are needed to reliably cover the coastline. And so far only three have been ordered in words.
      "Neptune" in the course of combat operations should at least cover (and cover seriously) a mobile anti-aircraft missile system, which the Ukrainian Armed Forces does not yet have.
      1. CommanderDIVA
        CommanderDIVA 5 July 2020 21: 57
        0
        Well, for now, instead of a mobile air defense system, they will use portable MANPADS of the type Arrow or Needle
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 5 July 2020 12: 50
    -2
    They will have it .... When "Neptune" whistles on the mountain ..
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 July 2020 13: 01
    -1
    IMHO, "oranges will not be born on an aspen tree" ... They will not master the serial production of the rocket ... Well, why would it? You need a lot of money, production is "on the go" ... Yes, a lot of things. All the same, the X-35 is not "Stugna", the scale is not the same ... And most importantly, it's all expensive ...
  • Outsider
    Outsider 5 July 2020 13: 33
    -1
    - In fact, any attempt to destroy this bridge in this way (or in any other way) is a "casus belli", a pretext for war. So you can get the CD from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. And the lads know it ... lol
  • iouris
    iouris 5 July 2020 13: 35
    0
    If the question arose about the safety of facilities in the United States or Israel, the question would have long been resolved. It is useful to have an aggressive state nearby, which requires demonstrating the ability to make responsible decisions and implement them.
  • ivanec
    ivanec 5 July 2020 13: 44
    -2
    Bad, but I was going on vacation to the Crimea ...
  • Pavel73
    Pavel73 5 July 2020 13: 58
    -1
    Just try it, make it!
  • fn34440
    fn34440 5 July 2020 14: 14
    -1
    It is very convenient to eradicate this infection from the territory of LDNR, especially since the occasion is provided daily.
    And the question. Judging by these statements and threats, the center for making these decisions is already known to our MO.
    What about the implementation of a preemptive strike in the name of Russia's security?
  • Genak
    Genak 5 July 2020 14: 30
    0
    If the bridge is damaged for safety reasons, the land support of the Crimea will be restored.
  • Old26
    Old26 5 July 2020 16: 16
    +5
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    "Neptune" can be successfully used against the LDNR. 150 kg warhead weight. The semi-handicraft production of 1-10 missiles per year does not fundamentally differ from the production of single items. And obviously he can.

    Ammunition of the "Neptune" battalion is 72 missiles. I don't think they will be making missiles for one division for 7 years. Even if we assume that the missile ammunition only for launchers is 24 missiles. Two years of production? Will they be rearming three divisions for a quarter of a century? No, I think that the state defense order regarding missiles (and at the first stage 120 missiles are planned) they will make in a year. The entire BC for three divisions - in a couple of years

    Quote: Alex777
    For use against LDNR on Neptune there must be a GOS with the ability to work on ground targets.
    We have appeared on the X-35U relatively recently.
    In that version of the documentation that went to Ukraine, there is no such possibility. There is a chance that they completed it themselves, but I doubt it. hi

    As far as is known, such a GOS is on the rocket. The fact that it was not in the documentation 30-40 years ago does not mean that it is not now. Plus, the rocket has not only an ANN, but also a correction system. so that on ground targets it can work

    Quote: Konvoi
    On their outskirts, EVERYTHING was destroyed. The space, shipbuilding, and tank industries (they built the whole Union) ..

    Vitalik! I’m not tired of portraying an ostrich with its head in the sand and indulging in the sweet dreams that Ukraine has destroyed everything. Wang of you - no. Better go knock the dust out of the Budennovka and the sofa and sharpen the blunt saber ...
    If the shipbuilding area in them almost all precipitated, then the space-rocket - is alive. And at least they’re making their armor ...

    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: Alex777
    For use against LDNR on Neptune there must be a GOS with the ability to work on ground targets.

    They and already in service and tested Tochka U complexes could not really be used. and the new complex is completely doubtful.
    As for the allegations of their attacks on the bridge, I think it is necessary to declare cheico and unequivocally that, without any delay, the launch area and Kiev will also be erased from the ground.
    and let them think ...

    There are a few details to consider.
    1 .. "Tochka-U" they have generally served all the prescribed terms, so there is no need to talk about efficiency and accuracy. This is the technical side of the problem
    2. If the calculations are generally incomprehensible when they fired at the ranges with the same "Tochka", and then force them to launch, it is unpredictable where they will end up. So everyone. If there is no regular shooting, then at least shoot with the "Point", even with the "Iskander" - you can not get anywhere
    3. Why is it doubtful that they will not apply the new? Do not underestimate the enemy and believe that they do not know how. This underestimation usually ends badly. As for the statements of these politicians - put a smaller equal sign between their statements and reality. Those who will sit at the controls are aware of how the shooting at Russian targets can end, and politicians have a language without bones ...

    Quote: doubovitski
    Quote: Bashkirkhan
    "Neptune" can be successfully used against the LDNR. 150 kg warhead weight. The semi-handicraft production of 1-10 missiles per year does not fundamentally differ from the production of single items. And obviously he can.

    Only with the threat of homemade products, will they get quite professional mallet.

    Yah? And with what professional mallets will the LPR-DPR be able to respond to the use of "semi-handicraft" missiles? The name of the DNR-LNR missiles with a range of 3 hundred kilometers, tell me ???

    Quote: patron
    They will plant the same 18-year-old fools, the same as those mortar men who fired on residential areas of Donbass.
    When they were captured, drooling and snot that they didn’t know where to shoot, they were told by the authorities that they were based on the militants' bases, and they only had coordinate numbers on their hands.

    They will not put 18-year-olds there. For mortar crews, these may be suitable, but for rocket crews, people with education are required.
    Yes, and do not capture these. Try to capture this calculation if it is deployed behind enemy lines at a distance of 200-250 km from the contact line ....

    Quote: fn34440
    It is very convenient to eradicate this infection from the territory of LDNR, especially since the occasion is provided daily.
    And the question. Judging by these statements and threats, the center for making these decisions is already known to our MO.
    What about the implementation of a preemptive strike in the name of Russia's security?

    A preemptive strike on the territory of a neighboring state that is not at war with Russia is in the name of Russia's security? Yes, the thought is so subtle that it is not even visible ...

    Quote: Pavel73
    Just try it, make it!

    wind yourself up? Are you ready even now to pick up a machine gun and go to destroy everyone in Ukraine? This is a calmer way to cheat yourself, you are our courageous couch ...
    When a person believes in such speeches of politicians and winds himself up, it means that not everything is in order. Or too young
    1. your1970
      your1970 6 July 2020 11: 46
      0
      Quote: Old26
      Those who will sit at the controls are aware of how the shooting at Russian targets can end, and politicians have a language without bones ...

      So politicians just understand - get into the bridge and the whole world fame - Ukraine organized the Russian Federation 09.09.2001 ...
      They then do not get away from terrorism .....
      Well, the reason for the Russian Federation will be - "within the framework of the preventive activities of a possible terrorist attack, a preventive strike was struck at the bases ..."
  • Potomac
    Potomac 5 July 2020 16: 19
    +2
    Weapons are purely defensive, extremely necessary for Ukraine. Far from the TOP in the segment, but many times better than what the APU has. Next in line air defense systems, I think.
  • Irek
    Irek 5 July 2020 17: 04
    -5
    Raven scare, these Neptunes.
  • Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya 5 July 2020 18: 51
    -1
    Yes, this will be an occasion half of Ukraine to bite off Russia
  • AllBiBek
    AllBiBek 5 July 2020 19: 32
    -2
    It will be enough to start the bike that there are several kg of silver in this rocket. And that’s it.
    1. your1970
      your1970 6 July 2020 11: 47
      0
      Quote: AllBiBek
      It will be enough to start the bike that there are several kg of silver in this rocket. And that’s it.

      So this is not a bike, there are a lot of things ....
  • Old26
    Old26 5 July 2020 20: 02
    +2
    Quote: Irek
    Raven scare, these Neptunes.

    Less to you for utter stupidity! When will they again start to think with their head at VO, and not go about it or not ???
    Quote: Potomac
    Weapons are purely defensive, extremely necessary for Ukraine. Far from the TOP in the segment, but many times better than what the APU has. Next in line air defense systems, I think.

    They have been engaged in modernization of old Soviet systems for a long time, but new products are not yet visible. But they can do it. There is potential
  • svoit
    svoit 5 July 2020 22: 15
    -2
    Quote: WillyWonka
    beauty, and only .... Will we tackle the balance?

    The price of the Olympics in Sochi was somewhat more expensive, the ostrich policy could not lead to anything else.

    Quote: Old26
    A preemptive strike on the territory of a neighboring state that is not at war with Russia is in the name of Russia's security?

    You are not good friends with modern politics, it is Israel (and not only it) that is delivering preventive strikes and not without success.
  • Maximilian37
    Maximilian37 6 July 2020 01: 49
    0
    Quote: ivanec
    Bad, but I was going on vacation to the Crimea ...

    there’s a chance that they’ll launch it, 1 in 1, and what’s on you when you cross the bridge is how to find the molecule of your bunch on the first day of your birth.
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 6 July 2020 02: 46
    0
    everyone farts, but why isn’t there one thing - any rocket takeoff - destruction of the installation - war? !!!!!!!!!!!
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 6 July 2020 02: 48
    -1
    Quote: svoit
    Quote: WillyWonka
    beauty, and only .... Will we tackle the balance?

    The price of the Olympics in Sochi was somewhat more expensive, the ostrich policy could not lead to anything else.

    Quote: Old26
    A preemptive strike on the territory of a neighboring state that is not at war with Russia is in the name of Russia's security?

    You are not good friends with modern politics, it is Israel (and not only it) that is delivering preventive strikes and not without success.

    you also don’t bring rubbish, no one has rushed to Russia yet
  • Maikcg
    Maikcg 6 July 2020 02: 50
    +1
    >> Tests have shown that nothing interferes with hitting multiple targets at the same time.

    And with one rocket laughing
  • dima_2
    dima_2 6 July 2020 03: 48
    0
    2021 June 22, 4 a.m. across the border into the Crimea, hundreds of great diggers carry dozens of x-35s (in their Neptune) destroy the Crimean bridge. the main thing is that the border guards do not notice
  • fider
    fider 6 July 2020 07: 53
    -2
    "Three divisions of" destroyers "of the Crimean bridge deployed on the Black and Azov seas"
    Three divisions deployed ...
    Does the author with Russian have difficulties?
  • makasan34
    makasan34 6 July 2020 08: 27
    0
    this bridge surrendered to them
  • Radius
    Radius 6 July 2020 12: 16
    0
    ! How is "... waiting for the enemy near their shores" different from "... will meet the enemy near his shores"? Did the admiral even understand what he said?
  • Radius
    Radius 6 July 2020 12: 36
    0
    Quote: AllBiBek
    It will be enough to start the bike that there are several kg of silver in this rocket. And that’s it.

    There is definitely silver in it. And also gold, palladium, etc. Well, who is who, and those who service this complex know this for sure.
  • Old26
    Old26 6 July 2020 13: 33
    +1
    Quote: svoit
    You are not good friends with modern politics, it is Israel (and not only it) that is delivering preventive strikes and not without success.

    You are not friends at all. For if they were "friends". they would know that only with Jordan and Egypt Israel has peace treaties. With others he is at war. Minus for ignorance of materiel

    Quote: fider
    "Three divisions of" destroyers "of the Crimean bridge deployed on the Black and Azov seas"
    Three divisions deployed ...
    Does the author with Russian have difficulties?

    And what do you see difficulties with the language. All right THREE The division is planned to be deployed in the Black and Azov Seas. Two on Black and one on Azov ?? What are the language difficulties ???
  • Valery Kuzmin
    Valery Kuzmin 6 July 2020 14: 17
    0
    Well, if you’re ready, shoot at least once, in a moment we’ll destroy both the divisions and everything in eastern Ukraine. A couple of hours and there is none at all.
  • jncnfdybr
    jncnfdybr 7 July 2020 10: 36
    0
    Destroy the Crimean bridge? As if after that, the whole Ukraine wouldn’t have been shitting anywhere.))