The Indian government has allocated funds for the purchase of Russian fighters

All the same, India will buy 33 fighters for the country's air force in Russia. According to Indian media reports, the Defense Acquisition Council (DAC) of the Cabinet of Ministers of the Government of India approved the acquisition in Russia of 12 new Su-30MKI aircraft and 21 MiG-29 aircraft from the Russian military.

According to published data, the Government of India on July 2 approved the accelerated acquisition of 33 fighters for the country's air force in Russia. 181,48 billion rupees (2,43 billion dollars) are allocated for the purchase of aircraft. At the same time, it is specified that out of a total amount of 107,3 billion rupees ($ 1,44 billion) is allocated for the purchase of 12 new Su-30MKIs, and 74,18 billion rupees ($ 990 million) is allocated for the purchase of 21 MiG-29 fighters.

The new Su-30MKIs will be assembled from delivered car kits at the Indian aircraft manufacturing association Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). These fighters should make up for the operational losses of the Indian Su-30MKI fleet.

The MiG-29 fighters delivered from the presence of the Russian Ministry of Defense are planned to be upgraded to the MiG-29UPG level. The resulting aircraft will go to equip the fourth squadron of the Indian Air Force in addition to the three that are currently armed with the MiG-29.

Comments

[newcomer]

For some reason, it seems to me that the hawks upgraded in the KB MIG will be more reliable than the Sushki collected by the Indians.

[Orange bigg]

According to Indian media reports, the Defense Acquisition Council (DAC) of the Cabinet of Ministers of the Government of India approved the acquisition in Russia of 12 new Su-30MKI aircraft and 21 MiG-29 aircraft from the Russian military.

And what did Rafali decide not to buy anymore? It was necessary to make up for the transfer of the MiG-29 from the presence of the Russian military department with the purchase of a large consignment of the MiG-35 in the Russian Air Force.

[newcomer]

I just read that the paddling pool promised to deliver the party ahead of schedule. Although, according to the remarks of Indian flyers, the expensive "Rafale" does not meet the promised characteristics. But for MIG35, I'm only for, let them take more. May God grant memory, 6 pcs. it seems so far ordered.

[Orange bigg]

Ofiget. Rafal is 2 times more expensive than the F-35, and even does not meet the declared characteristics. The MiG-35D would be nice to start mass-supplying to the Russian Aerospace Forces, because even the USSR could not afford to fly only on heavy Sushki.

[Alex777]

Ofiget.Rafal 2 times more expensive than the F-35

Not 2 times more expensive. The Poles were initially offered F-35s for 203 million units.
Then they gave a discount. But the F-35 has a much higher cost of ownership. Coverage must be restored after flights constantly. Therefore, the Indians proposed the modification of the F-16 States.
The main argument for the Rafals was also in this. That they say on Russian fighters it is often necessary to change the engines and 2, and on Rafale rarely 1.
And among the Indians, the Rafale value also includes the EMNIP weaponry.

[Orange bigg]

The main argument for the Rafals was also in this. That they say on Russian fighters it is often necessary to change the engines and 2, and on Rafale rarely 1.

Rafal also has 2 engines. They are simply located nearby.

[Alex777]

Yes you are right. Summed up the memory ...
I missed this moment. At Mirages 1 bull.

[yehat2]

carburetor

[orionvitt]

Quote: OrangeBigg

even the USSR could not afford to fly only on heavy Sushki.

The USSR could afford a lot, but that's not the point. Just Sushki and MIGs, these are two different classes of aircraft, sharpened for different conditions of combat use. And the Indians, after long "dancing with tambourines", made the expected and logical decision.

[Alex777]

And the Indians, after long "dancing with tambourines", made the expected and logical decision.

This decision clearly showed that Indians are more afraid of Chinese with sticks than Americans with sanctions.

[ltc35]

Rafaly also relies on promises to train pilots, spare parts and their quick delivery to the place, as well as eternal friendship. It costs a lot.

[zwlad]

as well as eternal friendship. It costs a lot

well made fun

[Alex777]

But for MIG35, I’m only for, let them take more. God give me memory, 6 pcs. sort of so far ordered.

Support!
We will sell the old ones - we will buy new ones.
https://ria.ru/20190617/1555619124.html

[Grazdanin]

Quote: OrangeBigg

And what did Rafali decide not to buy anymore?

Of course they will buy, the first batch delivered.

Quote: OrangeBigg

the purchase of a large batch of Mig-35 in the Russian Aerospace Forces.

Who needs this stuff? Su 30,34,35 per head superior, they need to buy, extremely successful aircraft.

[newcomer]

"Trash"??? Listen, what, by the way, is SU34 superior to MIG35?

[Orange bigg]

Junk? The most advanced fighter developed in our country, after the Su-57, of course. Compared to the MiG-35, which, like the Su-57, has AFAR, albeit optionally, the same Su-30 can be called junk.
It is necessary to rely on the heavy Su-57, light MiG-35 and Su-34M as a drummer and carrier of the long-range missile launcher. The rest are duplicating each other in the functions of the machines, which were produced for patching holes after the collapse of the USSR.

[Grazdanin]

Yea Yea. In addition to the written performance characteristics there is a reality. In general, the Mig 29/35 series is unsuccessful. Just think a bit why our Army and foreign countries buy hundreds of Su27 (30,34,35) aircraft, and Mig 35 has delivered 6 pieces to our army and is not interesting to anyone abroad. Mig 29 is distributed to everyone in a row, for free (it’s more expensive to dispose of). That's all with you.

[newcomer]

Well, do not confuse b.u.29e with the new ones35i. First SU and MIG are different machines for different tasks. Why SU has advanced in sales and development has long been known. By the way, the same SU27 and MIG29 are the same in terms of characteristics, with the exception of the class of machines and tasks for them. MIG35 is the same SU35 in a light, cheap class for ground, water, and strike missions, and its main task is a light front-line fighter, if you like, let it be an average front-line soldier. Throughout the filling is not inferior to SU35mu.

[Grazdanin]

And with you everything is clear. Easy? The Mig 35 is heavier than the F35A and the first F15. At the price of operation, it is slightly cheaper than dryers, according to its capabilities, it is a bit weaker.

Quote: newbie

light front-line fighter

It’s only in your head. At the same moment, they have the same tasks; they are fourth-generation multipurpose fighters.

[newcomer]

And what have the F35 and the first 15s to do with, you already sort of begin to be called for something without hitting, but if only "in my opinion".

[Orange bigg]

Someone download the comparison of weight and performance characteristics of the Mig-35 and F-35 from this link for clarity. I can’t do it. The F-35 is close in weight to the Su-57 and is not lighter, but much heavier than the Mig-35.

https://resize.yandex.net/si?key=a13a8573445e01138e1ea70e7c03f430&url=https%3A%2F%2Favatars.mds.yandex.net%2Fget-zen_doc%2F1712117%2Fpub_5e723ff2b22d3c6dcc1e6145_5e724034f6d9d7377d6e2831%2Fscale_1200&width=592&height=578&typemap=gif%3Agif%3Bpng%3Apng%3B*%3Ajpeg%3B&crop=no&enlarge=0&goldenratio=yes&use-cache-headers=yes&attachment=image.jpg&proxy=yes

It’s only in your head. At the same moment, they have the same tasks; they are fourth-generation multipurpose fighters.

Su-27 and Mig-29, F-15 and F-16 are also only in someone’s head divided into heavy and light fighters?

[sedoj]

There are two good articles on this topic:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279186519_O_sravnenii_istrebitelej_cetvertogo_i_patogo_pokolenia_c1
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/279186537_O_sravnenii_istrebitelej_cetvertogo_i_patogo_pokolenia_c2
and graphs from articles:

[newcomer]

A colleague, a citizen, the characteristics are the same, taking into account the tasks they solve and the class of cars. You really bother not to twist my words.

[Orange bigg]

In general, the Mig 29/35 series is unsuccessful.

Therefore, India and Egypt see them and buy them. Mig-29K, Mig-29 KUB, Mig-29M.

Just think a bit why our Army and foreign countries buy hundreds of Su27 (30,34,35) aircraft, and Mig 35 has delivered 6 pieces to our army and is not interesting to anyone abroad.

And in what years did the state tests pass and the serial production of the Su-30 / Su-34 / Su-35 begin? Mig-35 only passes state tests and only prepares to enter the troops. There is not little interest in the Mig-35. But few will understand the raw fighter, which has not passed the state test, until they get into service with the Russian Air Force. The Mig-29M is in demand.

[Cyril G ...]

I will express a heretical idea. At least the MiG-35mi can rearm the BF and SF air forces. What is the point?
- Firstly, Dry from the aircraft carrier will leave. They will most likely order a series of ship MiGs. If we even want to have an AV, you can’t do without buying a further 24 units.
- further a personnel question. It is advisable, as part of the preservation of flight personnel in the fleet and the exchange of service areas, it is quite advisable to re-equip the Pokryshkinsky IAP from the Su-27S / P to the MiG-29SMTR / MiG-35. Next 2 deck regiments in the North + squadron as part of the Yeisk CA, Something like this.

[Grazdanin]

I agree about the aircraft carrier, moment 29 will be better on it, unless of course the aircraft carrier is in service. But it’s unprofitable to keep in service 2 types of fighter targets identical in objectives, especially since one of them is fundamentally superior to the other. You can retrain pilots.

[Cyril G ...]

I. If there will be.
II. A proposal for a Baltic MiG regiment - in order to?
- be able to rotate personnel without retraining, and serving in more civilized regions. This is important believe me. After all, I served a quarter century behind the Arctic Circle. I have the right to say so.
- in the Baltic, the distances are minimal, there the MiG-29SMTR / 35 will feel quite adequately.
- Well, the Su-27S / P should be changed already. It seems that the Su-27S / P is no longer in the Air Force. Either in the navy, or in training.

[Grazdanin]

I agree about this theater. My opinion is that MiG29 will be removed from service in the coming years, the resource is being developed, Sushi is being replaced, we are actively distributing MiGs to our allies.

[Cyril G ...]

All true.
With regard to the fleet, this is still the level of Wishlist and the question is complex. What I have no doubt will order the MiG-35 for Swifts + SMT will remain in 116 pulp and paper industry. VKS will not have combat MiGs.

[Grazdanin]

I'm sorry KB MiG. In fact, he ate it dry. I can not hear about new projects, old ones live their lives. It’s sad.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Grazdanin

I'm sorry KB MiG. In fact, he ate it dry. I can not hear about new projects, old ones live their lives. It’s sad.

About PAK DP and LMI have not heard?

[Kolka Semenov]

MiG ate himself.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Grazdanin

I agree about the aircraft carrier, moment 29 will be better on it, unless of course the aircraft carrier is in service.

Quote: Cyril G ...

If we even want to have an AV, you can’t do without buying a further 24 units.

Colleagues, the whole point is that the MiG-35K needs to reduce landing speed ... The eyes of flyers get out of their orbits and the retina exfoliates at such landing loads (speeds)!
Therefore, there are 2 ways: either to improve the mechanization of the wing, or to increase its area ... True, there is a third - to increase the flight deck of TAVKR-a by 30 m. But this path is not for Kuzi, who, according to the promises of Rakhmanov, will be patched up by 2022. Boom to wait!
AHA.

[Grazdanin]

There are many ways to resolve the issue, which in the end will not be clear.

[tomket]

Quote: Grazdanin

Who needs this stuff? Su 30,34,35 per head superior, they need to buy, extremely successful aircraft.

By the way, the same MiG-29SMT in Syria proved itself extremely well, and the military liked it.

[svp67]

Quote: OrangeBigg

And what did Rafali decide not to buy anymore?

The French can not deliver the required number of aircraft within the specified time. And so they put the next pair faster, but said that was the limit. And the Indians need airplanes already yesterday ...

[Cyril G ...]

Better let them buy the Su-35

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Better let them buy the Su-35

The Su-35 is a heavy vehicle of a transitional generation, until the Su-57 enters the troops. On heavy vehicles alone we will not fly far. Let them buy the Su-57 and MiG-35.

[Grits]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Let them buy Su-57 and MiG

No, really. You need such a cow yourself. If the Mig-29 is sold to them with the aim of replacing the Mig-35 in their parts, then it is very commendable. But something to me the pessimistic chuyka suggests that there will be no stupid replacement ...

[1976AG]

It refers to the MiG-29s that are in storage, and not in combat units. As for the MiG-35, there is no information about the end of its tests and how long they will last. Again, there is no clarity about the readiness of the Zhuk-A radar.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: 1976AG

It refers to the MiG-29s that are in storage, and not in combat units. As for the MiG-35, there is no information about the end of its tests and how long they will last. Again, there is no clarity about the readiness of the Zhuk-A radar.

Test MiG-35 will end at the end of 2021. In a year. Zhuk-AM already exists.

[1976AG]

Where did the information from the end of the test come from, and why so long? There was no talk about Zhuk-AM, they were going to put Zhuk-M. The fact that there is a radar does not mean that it is tested and ready for production. There is also a MiG-35, but the tests will not end in any way.

[Orange bigg]

Information from the Russian Aerospace Forces. 5 years of testing (from the beginning of 2017 to actually the beginning of 2022) for a long time, but let's hope that the car is brought to the requirements of the Russian Aerospace Forces for so long, which means that there is real interest in mass production on its part.

State tests of the new light Russian MiG-35 fighter are scheduled to be completed at the end of 2021. The Air Force Commander - Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces (VKS) Sergei Dronov told the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper this in an interview timed to coincide with the Day of the Air Force (VVS).

"State tests of the MiG-35 are planned to be completed at the end of 2021," Dronov said.

He noted that the MiG-35 differs from the Su-30SM and Su-35S fighters in service with its efficiency. "The cost of its flight hour is approximately one and a half times lower than that of modern aircraft of the Sukikh family," Dronov said.

https://www.ng.ru/news/654740.html

[1976AG]

Thanks for the information.

[1976AG]

They were going to put the Beetle-A

[mdsr]

Quote: OrangeBigg

It is necessary to make up for the transfer of the MiG-29 from the presence of the Russian military department with the purchase of a large batch of MiG-35s in the Russian Air Force.

Be sure to make up! I remember that they were exported, but Algeria rejected them and, in such an interesting way, our Air Force replenished with new MiGs. They were based in Kursk and were driven very intensively. The pilots were very pleased with them. Recently, they kind of relocated to Krasnodar. But at the expense of the MiG-35 I'm not sure that it will be better than the same Su-30SM.
Selling these MiGs is generally a super deal. For this money, you can buy new aircraft for the VKS. I know this doesn’t work like that, but I hope that at the top they’ll figure out what’s going to be bought and at least 1 additional squadron of brand new aircraft in addition to the already contracted ones.

[TermNachTer]

MiGs already exist, they only need to make pre-sale preparation, and when will they be "rafali"? The Indians fussed when they smelled of fried))))

[Jack O'Neill]

And what kind of MiG is it for them, when they buy their own Teigas?

[newcomer]

Looks like MIG will be better.

[Jack O'Neill]

Looks like MIG will be better.

Hindus think differently. For them, as it turned out, their own light fighter is better.

[newcomer]

With Tejas, the story is a bit different. For some reason, it is essential for them to have a single-engine passenger car of the MIG21 class. I would advise them not to waste the time already spent, but initially contact the MIG Design Bureau with an order. I am sure the order would have been fulfilled long ago, over the years.

[Grazdanin]

Mig 29 can be quickly obtained, ground infrastructure is ready, pilots are trained. Maybe there are some internal problems. And the Hindus have a different head structure than ours.

[Jack O'Neill]

Mig 29 can be quickly obtained, ground infrastructure is ready, pilots are trained. Maybe there are some internal problems. And the Hindus have a different head structure than ours.

Used ones can be quickly obtained, but new ones must be made first. It's not that fast.
Well, they really have infrastructure for the MiG-29, you can’t argue with that.

[Grazdanin]

About b / ear speech and it comes, there is no point in buying new ones from the word at all.

[Jack O'Neill]

About b / ear speech and it comes, there is no point in buying new ones from the word at all.

Why B / U's? What year is the car?

[Grazdanin]

The MiG-29 fighters delivered from the presence of the Russian Ministry of Defense are planned to be upgraded to the MiG-29UPG level.

[Jack O'Neill]

The MiG-29 fighters delivered from the presence of the Russian Ministry of Defense are planned to be upgraded to the MiG-29UPG level.

Ahh, I’m gouging into my eyes.) Thank you!
Then yes, it would not be bad to replenish your MiG UPG fleet.

[Grazdanin]

Distribute and forget about these MiGs is necessary, except in addition to the naval

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Cyril G ...

We are talking about the Kursk SMT, 36 such units. Their service life in the region is 12 years.
Newly built SMT, we have 16 + 2 new UB ...
A total of 21 CMTs are for sale. Newly built and the rest of Kursk will be concentrated in Astrakhan. Well, ship's of course. Kursk MiGs have been withdrawn to the reserve for at least a year now.

[tomket]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Why B / U's? What year is the car?

It is thought that it will be the Kursk SMT which are being put out for repair due to the re-equipment of the regiment on the Su-30SM

[Zeev zeev]

Own teijas still need to produce. And the MiG-29 needs only to be delivered

[Jack O'Neill]

Own teijas still need to produce. And the MiG-29 needs only to be delivered

Those. Do we have MiG-29M warehouses for Indian hotels? Otherwise, where are you going to supply them from right away?
Maybe they will want to cram AFAR into the MiG-29, make a "glass" cockpit, and even a square chassis. Is all this ready for transfer to India?)
And Teidas flies, already how many boards are made there.

[Zeev zeev]

There are no warehouses. But to satisfy the rather modest Indian Wishlist (they urgently need to increase the number of MiG-29 in the troops in order to reduce the quantitative and qualitative gap with the PLA air force) is enough. And pre-sale preparation of the vehicles withdrawn from service in Russia will in any case be faster than the construction of new Tejas

[mdsr]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

And what kind of MiG is it for them, when they buy their own Teigas?

On these MiGs, you can even go to battle today. The pilots are trained, the infrastructure is available, the mechanics know the car. And Tejas is a crude machine, a designer from products of many countries.

[Jack O'Neill]

On these MiGs, you can even go to battle today. The pilots are trained, the infrastructure is available, the mechanics know the car. And Tejas is a crude machine, a designer from products of many countries.

See answers Zeev zeev и Grazdanin.

[alexmach]

And what kind of MiG is it for them, when they buy their own Teigas?

They want to increase the number of aircraft as quickly as possible. And not to the detriment of all current programs.

[TermNachTer]

It's not even funny to compare a flying misunderstanding and a MiG, at least not correctly

[Bar1]

I wonder why bypass mig35 is it almost a new car? A ban, is it something in Russia and India too?

[1976AG]

Quote: Bar1

I wonder why bypass mig35 is it almost a new car? A ban, is it something in Russia and India too?

At least their trials must be completed.

[Bar1]

Quote: 1976AG

Quote: Bar1

I wonder why bypass mig35 is it almost a new car? A ban, is it something in Russia and India too?

At least their trials must be completed.

and how many will you complete them, a hundred years?
India is already offering them, so everything is ready, so do not invent.

[1976AG]

Quote: Bar1

Quote: 1976AG

Quote: Bar1

I wonder why bypass mig35 is it almost a new car? A ban, is it something in Russia and India too?

At least their trials must be completed.

and how many will you complete them, a hundred years?
India is already offering them, so everything is ready, so do not invent.

Firstly, I’m not experiencing them and the claims are not for me.
Secondly, they were offered to India for the first time several years ago, I don’t even remember which year. You want to say that their trials have long been completed? So I’m not making it up, but informing you that the MiG-35 tests are not yet complete.

[Bar1]

Quote: 1976AG

Quote: Bar1

Quote: 1976AG

Quote: Bar1

I wonder why bypass mig35 is it almost a new car? A ban, is it something in Russia and India too?

At least their trials must be completed.

and how many will you complete them, a hundred years?
India is already offering them, so everything is ready, so do not invent.

Firstly, I’m not experiencing them and the claims are not for me.
Secondly, they were offered to India for the first time several years ago, I don’t even remember which year. You want to say that their trials have long been completed? So I’m not making it up, but informing you that the MiG-35 tests are not yet complete.

and you want to say that India did not offer an exhausted exterminator? That's impossible.
Obviously, Mink35 is restrained in production, and this is clearly at hand for the enemies of the Russians.

[1976AG]

It was the unfinished offered. We have some kind of strange system, the main thing is to conclude a contract, and there we will somehow bring it to mind.

[Grazdanin]

A great deal sold car kits, upgrades and got rid of Mig29. They have not all been distributed yet?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Grazdanin

got rid of Mig29. They have not all been distributed yet?

In vain you are so ... Vaughn, Poland (there was a dash of ambition!) Is buying MiGs from the countries of the former socialist camp ... Germany gave it its MiG-ari, they bribed it from its brothers ... What can they put into operation, that they can’t - cannibals for flying ...
And until the amas supply them with the F-35s, the proud panS will fly on the "useless" (- in your words) MiG-29s ... And nothing, by the way, about low flight characteristics, etc. they do not curl, although the dermis in them is "a huge volume!" (from).
Sincerely.

[Grazdanin]

Poland receives these blinks for free or almost for free, buying new 4s when you wait for new 5s is really stupid. It is more correct to maintain what is. Aircraft is not only the machine itself; it is ground-based infrastructure, pilots, maintenance personnel, etc. Making vinaigrette from different machines with the same tasks is really stupid.

[mdsr]

Quote: Grazdanin

and got rid of Mig29. They have not all been distributed yet?

It was fresh, Algerian SMT

[silberwolf88]

As soon as a real war loomed ... long-term dances with purchases were temporarily stopped ... I want effective and combat ... and most importantly now and quickly ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: silberwolf88

As soon as the real war loomed ...

Yes, there’s not even a matter of war. Comrades, and without war, much:

These fighters should make up for the operational losses of the Indian Su-30MKI fleet.

[michael2000]

To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear?

[Sergey39]

The Chinese are well done. In time fussed.

[jekasimf]

Roasted cock, still pecked.

[evgenii67]

Yeah, Hindus guys, everyone is dancing and dancing back and forth. For Russia it would be better if India ordered the MiG-35, there would be a good incentive for the enterprise and the future aircraft. And so to give the available letaki from the sost, I don’t know, I don’t know.
Is there an aviator here? As far as I know, Russia does not buy new MiG29 / 35s, only a part has been upgraded to smt, well, how many of them are left in Russia capable of flying into the air, pieces of 100 plus or minus?

[Grazdanin]

Quote: evgenii67

And so give the available letaki from Sostova, well, I don’t know

Very good deal, more expensive to dispose of. In exchange, you can buy normal Dryers. All of them have exhausted resources, are very outdated, their maintenance is more expensive than new ones.

Quote: evgenii67

get dressed in the air, pieces 100 plus or minus?

Maybe 20-30 left, I think in the near future will be distributed to the allies. MiGs at the price of service are slightly less than Sushki, according to their capabilities a cut below.

[Cyril G ...]

We are talking about the Kursk SMT, 36 such units. Their service life in the region is 12 years.
Newly built SMT, we have 16 + 2 new UB ...
A total of 21 CMTs are for sale. Newly built and the rest of Kursk will be concentrated in Astrakhan. Well, ship of course.
Old MiGs that can be transferred to the Allies in the region of 30-60 units withdrawn to the reserve.

And so to give the available letaki from the sost, I don’t know, I don’t know.

Kursk MiGs have been withdrawn to the reserve for at least a year.

[tomket]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Kursk MiGs have been withdrawn to the reserve for at least a year.

It seems that they started to capitalize on a few

[Cyril G ...]

Well, if so. The question is, why not Eribuni rearm on SMT?

[1976AG]

Not from the current composition, but those that are in storage.

[416D]

And the Chinese for organizing kipish at the right time in the right place, is it supposed to roll back from this transaction?

[bar]

All the same, India will buy 33 fighters for the country's air force in Russia.

Sharply, they did not even dance. Apparently, the Chinese provided good assistance in promoting our weapons to India.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: bar

Apparently, the Chinese provided good assistance in promoting our weapons to India.

Here, I’m directly asking:

[Cyril G ...]

21 MiG-29 aircraft from the presence of the Russian military.

Oops As I thought, we should talk about Kursk SMT.

[tralflot1832]

We are waiting for an article in Zemin Ribao on the Russia-India plane deal, if they are silent, it means that China has some interest from us.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Grazdanin

Very good deal, more expensive to dispose of.

Undoubtedly.

[Lara Croft]

One IAP in the Russian Aerospace Forces will be less?

[Cyril G ...]

Which side? Kursk MiG-29SMT is already 1-2 years in reserve. The regiment was rearmament on the Su-30SM.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Kursk MiG-29SMT is already 1-2 years in reserve. The regiment was rearmament on the Su-30SM.

Do you think the Russian Aerospace Forces have one IAP?

[Cyril G ...]

There was only one regiment left on the MiG-29 - a ship regiment. 100th KIAP. The 14th IAP (Kursk) has already been rearmament on the Su-30SM, part of the MiGs are also in reserve there. The remaining SMTs are concentrated in Astrakhan, 116 pulp and paper industry.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Cyril G ...

On the MiG-29 there was only one regiment — a ship’s.

According to the Wiki, only in the Russian Air Force - 114 MiG-29 ....

[Cyril G ...]

I'm not interested in Vicki.
I spoke about the military personnel and here are the facts:
The Navy - 22 MiG-29K
As part of the VKS, I really forgot about another separate IAE still flying on the MiG-29 old. This is Eribuni. 16-18 sides.
Everything in the combat crew is no longer a single machine.
In training centers - there are about 20 SMT / UBM in Astrakhan (116 pulp and paper / https: //bmpd.livejournal.com/1652578.html), and about the same number of boards in Kubinka.
There are 10-12 more operational UB in Kushchevskaya in UAP of the Krasnodar Institute.
There are 30 SMT aircraft in reserve in Halino / Kursk.
Total total - 88 (22 + 16 + 20 + 20 + 10) +30 standby.
Of the reserve, apparently planning to sell 21 boards to India.
In addition, a number of old 29s are still in the crap. Of these, a certain amount was transferred to Syria and 6 pieces of Serbia
The combat staff of the Russian Air Force here, in principle, does not lose anything.

[d4rkmesa]

I wonder where in this case they will find the application of the Mig-35.

[Vasyan1971]

According to published data, the Government of India on July 2 approved the accelerated acquisition of 33 fighters for the country's air force in Russia.

To the campaign, the thunder struck, the cancer whistled, the dances ended ...

[voyaka uh]

Su-30 - understandably, I agree with the Indians.
But what about the used MiG-29?
How were they kept? Plus, how will the Indians be kept? Plus, the plane itself has problems - a weak radar, for example.

[Grazdanin]

Apparently, we really need airplanes, we do not know the real state of the Indian Air Force. These MiGs will be delivered by the end of the summer, the infrastructure is ready, the pilots and maintenance staff are ready. If you need airplanes right here and now, then a reasonable choice. In fact, they have no choice. If India had F16 in service, then they would be ordered, before the end of the summer several hundred Fok would be))

[voyaka uh]

The real state is known. Their auditors periodically check the state of the army. And their reports are sad. Two-thirds or more of the aircraft are pinned down. There are, like, elite squadrons. Some fly on "Frenchmen" and, accordingly, lobby the French. Hence - Rafali. Others fly on Sushki. And that's why Russian planes are lobbying.

[Grazdanin]

So after a couple of years, and this supply will rot in the hangars, they will buy new ones))

[d4rkmesa]

Weak radar can be upgraded, in particular, Zhuk-M2E was mentioned before this purchase in the context of upgrading Indian MiGs, not AFAR, of course (for AFAR it would be necessary to build the entire architecture of on-board systems around the radar, which explains the long development of the MiG-35) But for an upgrade there will be norms. The main thing is the ability to use missiles at targets like the Su-27K and Su-35 at a range of 100+ km.

[tomket]

Quote: voyaka uh

But what about the used MiG-29?
How were they kept?

There are full photos of the Kursk SMT. But here it is, they will paint it and everything will be normal.

Quote: voyaka uh

Plus, how will the Indians be kept?

It seems to be normal they contain MiGs.

Quote: voyaka uh

Plus, the plane itself has problems - a weak radar, for example.

The beetle seems to descend for the first time. Then maybe something more interesting

[Cyril G ...]

Contained as usual. 6 MiG-29 (9-13) handed over from the sludge to the Serbs - fly.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Lara Croft

Quote: Cyril G ...

On the MiG-29 there was only one regiment — a ship’s.

According to the Wiki, only in the Russian Air Force - 114 MiG-29 ....

Russia
Maritime aviation - 19 MiG-29K, 3 MiG-29KUB, as of 2020 [14]
The Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy - 19 MiG-29K, 4 MiG-29KUB, as of 2020 [15]
Aerospace forces - 70 MiG-29 and MiG-29UB, 44 MiG-29SMT, 6 MiG-29UBT as of 2020 [16]
4th Army Air Force and Air Defense - 12 MiG-29, as of 2020 [17]
Old modifications are gradually being phased out of the videoconferencing system. There is a rearmament to new models, for example, on the MiG-29SMT and Su-30CM. [18] Modernization of fighters of an old building is recognized as inexpedient due to physical deterioration and corrosion [19] [20] [21] [22].
THIS IF A SUBJECT FROM WIKI

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Ovsigovets

Quote: Lara Croft

Quote: Cyril G ...

On the MiG-29 there was only one regiment — a ship’s.

According to the Wiki, only in the Russian Air Force - 114 MiG-29 ....

THIS IF A SUBJECT FROM WIKI

Apparently we have different WIKI

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%88%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8B_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8#%D0%90%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%85%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%B8_%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%85%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0

[Cyril G ...]

Re-equipment on SMT does not go. Only 18 old MiGs in Eribuni are in combat. Kursk SMT in reserve. New SMT in 116 pulp and paper industry in Astrakhan. Kubinka and Eribuni fly on old MiGs.

[Prisoner]

As a war smell and Russian apparatus wanted. And how they danced, how they danced!

[Grits]

"Wait, Wait, wait, wait!"

[Warrior MorePhoto]

... and then you need to think carefully and take Mig 35 at least 2 regiments

[DEVIL LIFE`S]

Let them pay extra for the speed of delivery, as usual with deliveries.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Lara Croft

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%88%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8B_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8#%D0%90%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%85%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%B8_%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%85%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0

you just have an unreleased tablet .... for 2019 ... I have it as of 2020 ... by the way 44 mig-29cm and they sounded for me, and 70 UBTs, if you count all my blurred ones, it’s possible

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Lara Croft

Quote: Ovsigovets

Quote: Lara Croft

Quote: Cyril G ...

On the MiG-29 there was only one regiment — a ship’s.

According to the Wiki, only in the Russian Air Force - 114 MiG-29 ....

THIS IF A SUBJECT FROM WIKI

Apparently we have different WIKI

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%88%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5_%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8B_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8#%D0%90%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%85%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%B8_%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%85%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0

and by the way about the main thing, which is clear from my and yours - there will be no new 29 produced, some will be upgraded to the SMT version, some will be written off due to decrepitude

[zwlad]

Fine. Saved jobs, plus a small investment in the economy.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Ovsigovets

part will be upgraded to the SMT version,

I believe, reasonably, this will not happen.

[Inspector]

Don’t you care about the Indians? When will the caponiers begin to build ?? Sun's glorious temple built !! About caponiers - SILENCE.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Quote: Ovsigovets

part will be upgraded to the SMT version,

I believe, reasonably, this will not happen.

if there is no justification then it won’t be ...