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Russian EMR-guns increased the range of defeat

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Russian EMR-guns increased the range of defeat

The prototypes of Russian electromagnetic guns have increased range to 10 km. This was reported by TASS with reference to two sources in the military-industrial complex (MIC).


According to sources, the Russian samples of EMR-weapons pass field tests, within which it was possible to achieve guaranteed destruction of targets at a distance of 10 km. Previously, the defeat range was no more than 1-2 km.

Tests of electromagnetic weapons have been going on since 2015, the last polygon firing from EMP guns took place in the spring. Currently, the average effective range of electromagnetic guns firing at air targets is 7-8 km, the maximum is approximately 10

- leads the agency the words of one of their sources.

According to another source, the destruction of aircraft at a distance of 10 km occurred by "burning electronic components of their on-board equipment." During the tests, the EMP weapon destroyed various devices without the possibility of their recovery, as well as unmanned aerial vehicles.

However, it is noted that today the main problem of the new electromagnetic weapon is the huge need for electricity, so in the near future the creation of compact mobile complexes of EMR weapons is hardly possible.
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  1. Siberian 66
    Siberian 66 5 July 2020 07: 28 New
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    Move in the right direction! As soon as this thing gets into the IL-76. it will be very, very buzzing.
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 5 July 2020 07: 50 New
      +9
      Alternatively, it is possible to use a mini-nuclear power plant (fits in the body of an army KAMAZ), work on which seems to be either being conducted, or being carried out on an initiative basis.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 5 July 2020 07: 57 New
        +5
        work on such reactors is certainly not an initiative. it is too important.
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 5 July 2020 08: 02 New
          +5
          They just need to be brought to the required parameters. After all, experimental models were already in the Union. And why on an initiative basis, because either they reduced it, or completely removed it. The developer at his own expense brings.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 5 July 2020 08: 45 New
            0
            I mean, now they cannot help but allocate a lot of funds. Bringing to mind such devices is an extremely important action. state important.
            1. newcomer
              newcomer 5 July 2020 08: 47 New
              +4
              Apparently, the importance of this installation is number two, after Lomonosov.
            2. Alex777
              Alex777 5 July 2020 12: 26 New
              +2
              Going to work. Term - 2023.
              The cost of creating product samples will exceed 20 billion rubles, and therefore the project will take longer

              https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4508435
              I could be wrong, but something tells me that such sources can also be put on ships with partial electric propulsion.
              The principle is not reactor. That would be too complicated. There is heating of bimetallic plates, as I understand it. hi
              1. newcomer
                newcomer 5 July 2020 16: 46 New
                0
                Of course it is possible. Pretty versatile station. Initially, in the Union, their use was planned by our Arctic units of the Ministry of Defense. I am very glad that the work has resumed.
      2. Desert Battleship
        Desert Battleship 5 July 2020 12: 37 New
        +1
        Energy weapons definitely have a future. Mini NPPs are of course a good thing, but somehow in the mobile version, the issue of biological protection is not resolved in any way and whether they will be solved and in my opinion this is the lot of stationary plants. In the mobile version, it seems to me that super capacitors and all kinds of lithium batteries that can give maximum power in a split second will be relevant. There will already be a game in battery capacity with the number of salvos and generator power with a reload speed and physical dimensions where to put all this.
    2. PN
      PN 5 July 2020 08: 40 New
      +2
      Well, in the IL-76 it will fit. By the way, for an airplane it will be a good missile defense, it will burn out any electronics of a flying rocket.
      1. Zeev
        Zeev zeev 5 July 2020 10: 57 New
        0
        Ballistic missiles have electronics protection. Moreover, the protection is designed for the electromagnetic effects of a nuclear explosion.
        1. PN
          PN 5 July 2020 12: 58 New
          +1
          Well, a ballistic missile, yes, it's hard to bang. But here’s an air defense missile launched by plane, you can try ...
          1. Zeev
            Zeev zeev 5 July 2020 13: 20 New
            0
            The same story, anti-aircraft missiles were designed in the 1960s so that the effects of a nuclear explosion did not kill electronics.
        2. yfast
          yfast 5 July 2020 15: 49 New
          0
          Any protection can be bent. And the rocket cannot be just an iron ball, there must be some non-metallic areas on it.
  2. convoy
    convoy 5 July 2020 07: 28 New
    +4
    Well Kulibiny, edrit them in the leg .... Well done!
  3. Victor_B
    Victor_B 5 July 2020 07: 28 New
    +4
    If it is really possible to knock down UAVs at such distances, then - URA.
    Although, on the other hand, if these are real ARMY drones, then they are necessarily tested on EMR.
    And must keep.
    In any case, all our military equipment is tested on EMR.
    1. Vyacheslav gomanov
      Vyacheslav gomanov 5 July 2020 08: 35 New
      +5
      And the West does not test its technology on EMP?
      1. NIKN
        NIKN 5 July 2020 09: 32 New
        +3
        Quote: Vyacheslav Gomanov
        And the West does not test its technology on EMP?

        Experiencing. That's just the test of bulletproof vests, but from armor-piercing 12,7 or 14.5 the bulletproof vest is rather weak. So here, a purposeful powerful EMP, the existing protection of the avionics will break through, and the additional protection is visible and the weight and cost ...
        1. Vyacheslav gomanov
          Vyacheslav gomanov 5 July 2020 13: 26 New
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          Modern equipment is difficult to burn EMR.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 5 July 2020 10: 54 New
      +4
      EMP from a nuclear explosion and the effect of EMF are two different physical phenomena: in one case it is a single impulse (of known amplitude, duration and steepness of the front, smeared away from the epicenter), in the other case it is a beam of directed EM radiation of unknown modulation beforehand, power and duration of impact on the target - so for now that protection will be created ... good
  4. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 5 July 2020 07: 47 New
    +2
    However, it is noted that today the main problem of the new electromagnetic weapon is the huge need for electricity, so in the near future the creation of compact mobile complexes of EMR weapons is hardly possible.

    A common problem. In the West, they also rested in the absence of a light and compact EU with the highest specific power. Now the question is for power engineers. Whoever first puts the required EI into production will be the king of the EMP weapon.
    1. poquello
      poquello 5 July 2020 12: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: Sergey Karasev
      In the West, they also rested in the absence of a light and compact EU with the highest specific power. Now the question is for power engineers. Whoever first puts the required EI into production will be the king of the EMP weapon.

      prick, prick, I have not heard about the success of the bourgeoisie in the EMP
  5. Eug
    Eug 5 July 2020 07: 52 New
    +6
    On ships can be placed for close defense, it is easier to provide the required power there.
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt 5 July 2020 10: 50 New
      +1
      How much power the power plant does not increase, but the installation itself has its own limit. In any case, a decrease in the electromagnetic field is inversely proportional to the square of the distance. If you want to double the damage range, you need to increase your power by four.
  6. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 5 July 2020 08: 11 New
    -3
    According to another source, the destruction of aircraft at a distance of 10 km occurred by "burning electronic components of their on-board equipment." or ...The prototypes of Russian electromagnetic guns have increased range to 10 km.Duc, would decide for a start! Sho tse taka!? "Guns" or an EMP weapon? request foolStill, these are two "Odessa" differences!
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 5 July 2020 08: 18 New
      +7
      Pordon, a colleague, isn't a gun a weapon, or a gun a gun? wink
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 5 July 2020 09: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: newbie
        Pordon, a colleague, is not a gun a gun, or a gun is not a gun

        Uuuu ... how on the site, it turns out, “everything is running”! Some concepts have already settled down that have become “commonplace,” that is, familiar! That is, when the bazaar is about "electromagnetic cannons", it usually means "analogues" of artillery guns that shoot with "kinetic shells"! Here are just "throwing charges" from them, not powder! request But there is the concept of EMR weapons, when objects (targets) are not struck by “kinetics”, but “pure” by electromagnetic energy! So there is, for example, the abbreviation EMR (electromagnetic impulse) ... although this is not “our everything”. .. electromagnetic! That is, nevertheless "there is a difference between a plug and a bottle"! And the article is confused by the concepts of "fork with a bottle" ....
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 5 July 2020 09: 24 New
          +4
          The throwing charge can be both an impulse and a shell. 21st century, colleague. About the plug and the bottle_ how many times I said to myself: not to chat on the site on weekends, a lot of wonderful. Well, if you have only a bottle and a fork in sight ...
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 5 July 2020 10: 06 New
            +4
            Mdaaa ... "launched" turned out to be much more than originally thought! One "pearl": "Throwing charge can be both an impulse and a shell belay "-What's worth! I have nothing to do in this TSSP!"
            1. newcomer
              newcomer 5 July 2020 10: 15 New
              +1
              You would have to figure out what this or that impulse consists of, then we can clearly.
            2. atos_kin
              atos_kin 5 July 2020 13: 35 New
              +2
              Quote: Nikolaevich I
              I have nothing to do in this CPH!

              You are not alone, colleague. The terminological mess in the heads of article authors is boiling at an unprecedented rate, and the VO site swallows everything.
        2. sen
          sen 5 July 2020 13: 53 New
          +1
          But there is also the concept of EMP weapons, when objects (targets) are not struck by “kinetics”, but “pure” by electromagnetic energy! So there is, for example, the abbreviation EMP (electromagnetic pulse)

          Well yes. And there are EM guns "firing" microwave radiation. In the US, they created such emitters to defeat UAVs.
          1. riwas
            riwas 5 July 2020 14: 19 New
            +1
            And there are EM guns "firing" microwave radiation.

            In a very long term, the use of artificial plasmoids is possible. Well, so far there is deaf.
            In 1961, Shakhparonov I.M. I got something similar.
            http://www.sinor.ru/~bukren6/shahparonov.doc
            http://www.sinor.ru/~bukren5/manykin1.doc

            1. sen
              sen 5 July 2020 16: 51 New
              +1
              I read about Shakhparonov’s experiments. He has several Soviet patents, including and chipboard. And he does not work alone - he has a Belgorod group.
          2. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 5 July 2020 14: 35 New
            +1
            Quote: sen
            more EM guns

            Decide! EM guns are railguns. yes
            1. sen
              sen 5 July 2020 16: 15 New
              +1
              At one time, there was a conversation at VO about microwave guns based on micro-EM radiation.
              https://topwar.ru/147971-mikrovolnovye-pushki-na-vooruzhenii-i-v-planah.html
          3. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 5 July 2020 16: 21 New
            0
            Quote: sen
            And there are EM guns "firing" microwave radiation. In the US, they created such emitters to defeat UAVs.

            So emitters or guns? Emitting or shooting? request You’ll decide, in the end! Over the course of a few comments, I’m waiting for the meaning of the expression “don’t confuse the plug with the bottle” to reach the “so gifted” readers of VO! That is, do not confuse the concept: "emitter" and the gun .... "radiate" and "shoot"! Everyone there ... "microwave guns", "acoustic guns", even, "laser guns" are unofficial or, at best, semi-official, names! If anyone has the right to officially claim the "cannon rank", then these are electromagnetic guns of rail type (railgun) or solenoid type (gaussgan) shooting with "mass"! The rest are emitters emitting energy ... even if pulsed ... even continuously ... even, by a beam, ... even by 360 g. !
            1. sen
              sen 5 July 2020 17: 21 New
              +1
              Well, if you approach strictly, then the railgun is not a gun. And judging by the materials of the article, we are talking specifically about microwave radiation. So, for example, "Foliage" works, but only at a short distance.
              1. sen
                sen 6 July 2020 03: 19 New
                +1
                mass shooting

                Under this description, and catapults fall.
                1. Nikolaevich I
                  Nikolaevich I 6 July 2020 07: 19 New
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                  Quote: sen

                  Under this description, and catapults fall.

                  Under the ,, description ,, the frigate and the bird fall! And the ability to distinguish in one case or another, xy from xy depends on the mental abilities of the individual, who blurt out one or another, I declare!
    2. Sergey39
      Sergey39 5 July 2020 11: 15 New
      +2
      And interestingly, all the news media are repeating this confusion.
    3. BAI
      BAI 5 July 2020 11: 36 New
      +1
      Journalists could confuse terminology. Easy. For example, in 2000, a photograph of a prototype American rifle was published. It was called an EMI rifle. Principle of action: The laser beam created an ionized track to the target, along which a powerful electric discharge was transmitted. It was a portable weapon (weight up to 12 kg) and it was reported that during the tests a car was stopped by a shot (distance was not reported). Those. it turned out a defeat controlled by lightning. Well, what does EMR have to do with it?
  7. Genry
    Genry 5 July 2020 08: 26 New
    +2
    However, it is noted that today the main problem of the new electromagnetic weapon is the huge need for electricity, so in the near future the creation of compact mobile complexes of EMR weapons is hardly possible.

    The author is very mistaken.
    For funds defeats (not suppression) energy is consumed short-periodically, narrowly directed to a specific target and therefore does not require large amounts of it.
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 5 July 2020 08: 29 New
      +2
      And the concentration of energy in the suppression and defeat does not matter? And the goal is usually not one.
      1. Genry
        Genry 5 July 2020 08: 41 New
        +3
        To destroy several targets in a short period, you need to have an appropriate system of energy storage and storage, which will determine the "ammunition" and differ in the capacity of capacitor, ionistor and rechargeable batteries. The input power will determine the average "rate of fire" and will be greatly limited by the cooling system (as in lasers).
        1. newcomer
          newcomer 5 July 2020 08: 43 New
          +2
          Indeed, in any case, it will require energy at an industrial scale.
          By concentration of energy, I did not mean accumulation, but the power of an impulse / shot.
          1. Genry
            Genry 5 July 2020 08: 44 New
            0
            Quote: newbie
            Indeed, in any case, it will require energy at an industrial scale.

            You show with your hands apart ...
            Let's get the numbers!
            1. newcomer
              newcomer 5 July 2020 08: 45 New
              0
              Henry, do not be clever, maybe you also have the key to the apartment ...
              1. Genry
                Genry 5 July 2020 08: 47 New
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                Quote: newbie
                don't be smart

                What industrial scale are you here?
                1. newcomer
                  newcomer 5 July 2020 08: 48 New
                  0
                  Much larger than your outlet in the computer produces.
                  1. Genry
                    Genry 5 July 2020 08: 49 New
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                    Quote: newbie
                    Much larger than your outlet in the computer produces.

                    How many orders?
                    1. newcomer
                      newcomer 5 July 2020 08: 57 New
                      0
                      Henry, a colleague, I already missed our debate, but not now. For questions of interest_ in SMERSH. wink
                      1. Genry
                        Genry 5 July 2020 08: 59 New
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                        Quote: newbie
                        For questions of interest_ in SMERSH.

                        Which one do you mean?
                      2. newcomer
                        newcomer 5 July 2020 09: 05 New
                        0
                        The closest FSB site for you. But I do not advise, I like to debate with you.
                      3. Genry
                        Genry 5 July 2020 09: 13 New
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                        Quote: newbie
                        The closest FSB site for you. But I do not advise, I like to debate with you.

                        How preoccupied you are ... I guess you used to worry about the terrible KGB.

                        About the author's (erroneous) view of the necessary enormous necessary power, you have not said anything.
                      4. newcomer
                        newcomer 5 July 2020 09: 15 New
                        0
                        Henry, do not cross the line of cultural communication. Anyway, get away from the zfira, call my debate colleague.
                      5. Genry
                        Genry 5 July 2020 09: 44 New
                        0
                        Quote: newbie
                        call my debate colleague.

                        Your problems don't bother me. Do it yourself ...
                      6. newcomer
                        newcomer 5 July 2020 09: 46 New
                        +2
                        Definitely not Henry, but a pity.
  • Boratsagdiev
    Boratsagdiev 5 July 2020 11: 15 New
    0
    Super capacitors to help and features of the "firing".
    1. Bacha
      Bacha 5 July 2020 11: 44 New
      0
      Right! And the men do not even know ...
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 July 2020 08: 31 New
    +5
    The range is already quite "combat." The UAV "Achilles' Heel" receiver. He simply must have high sensitivity ... And it is most difficult to protect from exposure.
    1. newcomer
      newcomer 5 July 2020 08: 41 New
      +2
      Specifically, in this case, probably yes, to suppress drones. We burned equipment to predators. I don’t think that they would fly at a distance of 10 km.
      1. Boratsagdiev
        Boratsagdiev 5 July 2020 11: 17 New
        +2
        Are you ... this can’t be!
        Specialists on the site have repeatedly stated this. laughing
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 July 2020 14: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The UAV "Achilles' Heel" receiver. He simply must have high sensitivity ... And it is most difficult to protect from exposure.

      And if the UAV is autonomous, with an AI board, according to the program?
      Interestingly, but the optics (OLS) of the EMP can also "stir up", like the laser?
      If not, then the kinetic slingshot remains in the form of a physical body at the meeting point ... bully
  • gregor6549
    gregor6549 5 July 2020 08: 49 New
    +1
    From the article "However, it is noted that today the main problem of the new electromagnetic weapon is the huge need for electricity, so in the near future the creation of compact mobile complexes of EMR weapons is hardly possible."

    The author is somewhat mistaken. Quite possible. And this possibility was proved theoretically and experimentally back in the late 60s and early 70s. And the possibility consists in obtaining coherent microwave oscillations in a system of independent microwave generators and adding the radiation power of these generators in space. Such technology was then developed by a group of teachers at the Minsk Higher Anti-Aircraft Missile School and was highly appreciated by academician Kobzarev. Unfortunately, the USSR industry was not very interested in ideas from the outside and this technology was not brought to OCD and its subsequent implementation. It is noteworthy that with this technology, each of their microwave generators can be supplied with electricity from quite compact sources.
    But in the United States, apparently, they “sniffed” this technology and tried to introduce microwave weapons in their designs carried out by the Directorate of Directed Energy Weapons Directorate https://www.kirtland.af.mil/Units/AFRL-Directed-Energy-Directorate/
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  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 5 July 2020 09: 47 New
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    However, it is noted that today the main problem of the new electromagnetic weapon is the huge need for electricity, so in the near future the creation of compact mobile complexes of EMR weapons is hardly possible

    I do not believe that ROSATOM cannot create an appropriate mobile power unit.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 5 July 2020 14: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: Narak-zempo
      I do not believe that ROSATOM cannot create an appropriate mobile power unit.

      Well, why can’t it? - Maybe! For space made. But there is no BZ for uninhabited spacecraft. And for Peresvet, too, he did ... But there is a separate block, heavy.
      And for the battlefield you need it quickly and easily. Therefore - capacitor-drives and DG in addition (maybe a turbine as a drive) and from a closed position, it will be the very thing to fly around avionics. Guidance from an autonomous (unrelated to the installation of an EMP) radar air situation.
      It seems to me that somehow it should be so. hi
  • Klingon
    Klingon 5 July 2020 09: 57 New
    0
    This is the thing! now and kamikaze drones and smart rockets so powerful
    EW, EMP guns and lasers are just what you need to create advanced air defense! it was up to mini Y. reactors, ITERs, well ... or Dilithium good
  • thinker
    thinker 5 July 2020 10: 17 New
    0
    ... the destruction of aircraft at a distance of 10 km occurred by "burning electronic components of their on-board equipment."
    Is this EMP gun worse than lightning striking a plane? Something noodle-like ...
    The greatest damage that an airplane caught in a thunderstorm can get is minor reflows at the place of the lightning strike.

    https://yandex.ru/turbo/s/samoletos.ru/perelety/popadanie-molnii
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 5 July 2020 10: 17 New
    -1
    How much are these EMP guns more economical than classical artillery?
    What new will she bring with her appearance on the battlefield?
  • Fidel
    Fidel 5 July 2020 11: 05 New
    +1
    I was always puzzled by what is achieved (and how) the direction of the impulse? So that you don’t burn yourself and get where you want)) Well, but the source of energy is yes. Batteries are the most important issue everywhere)
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 5 July 2020 18: 37 New
      -1
      Quote: Fidel
      I was always puzzled by what is achieved (and how) the direction of the impulse?

      The easiest way - the emitter is placed in the focus of the parabolic antenna. Remember from the school curriculum how a concave mirror works.
  • Boratsagdiev
    Boratsagdiev 5 July 2020 11: 12 New
    +1
    Are you kidding!
    And here they once said to me that I once again rave and threw cons.
    What is it that I am a visionary ?! laughing
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 5 July 2020 11: 23 New
    -1
    Quote: PN
    Well, in the IL-76 it will fit. By the way, for an airplane it will be a good missile defense, it will burn out any electronics of a flying rocket.

    If it were true. The brain must be included in such stuffing. If this were so, then this completely changed the alignment. Imagine nothing flying in a radius of 10 km. Yes, the Americans have everything on electronics, the radios would not work, satellites, even ships. Just who is the news for?
  • BAI
    BAI 5 July 2020 11: 27 New
    0
    This was reported by TASS with reference to two sources in the military-industrial complex

    And someone is being planted for a mere trifle, which has the most distant relation to state secrets. All that is associated with weapons on new physical principles - owls. secretly. As always, laws are not for everyone. Someone can do everything, someone - nothing.
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 6 July 2020 02: 32 New
    -1
    EMP is always cooler than any laser