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The German Bundeswehr may return to universal military duty

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The German Bundeswehr may return to universal military duty

In Germany they can restore universal military duty, canceled almost ten years ago. This proposal was made by the new Commissioner for the Bundeswehr, Eva Hegl, writes the German newspaper Die Welt.


According to Hegl, the abolition of universal military duty is a "huge mistake" that led to new cases of right-wing extremism in the German army. According to her, this problem needs to be solved and she proposes to bring this issue up for discussion by the government next year.

I consider it a huge mistake that conscription was abolished. We must very critically analyze this decision. Of course, we must follow the issue of equality in military service. In any case, this is very good for the Bundeswehr, if a significant part of society has been serving for some time

- Hegl said in an interview with reporters, adding that at the moment it is not known whether this proposal will receive majority support.

Note that the general military duty in the Bundeswehr was canceled about 10 years ago. And since 2011, the German government has been debating about its resumption, with German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer previously categorically opposed this proposal.
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  1. Dart2027
    Dart2027 4 July 2020 14: 54 New
    +5
    which led to new cases of right-wing extremism in the German army

    I didn’t understand something, but what did it have to do with it?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 4 July 2020 14: 57 New
      17
      Tipo leftists in the army do not want to serve, but Natsik with joy. Here they have Tipo and bias
      1. Civil
        Civil 4 July 2020 15: 48 New
        0
        Dilute the elite with parasites and suckers ... are unlikely to go for it, so ... for a look
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 4 July 2020 16: 03 New
          +6
          Yes, allow me to shoot the rapists right at the crime scene, and not punish those women who dared "splash in the face of a pepper spray to an unfortunate refugee." And at once there will be "Ordnung muss sein", in just a hundred or two corpses
          1. krot
            krot 4 July 2020 17: 19 New
            10
            I remember in the 90s the liberals yelled that the army was needed as in the "civilized world", a purely professional one, without conscripts. A "civilized world" decided that it is better as in the USSR smile
            1. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 4 July 2020 18: 38 New
              +4
              Exactly. Under Serdyukov, they began to introduce it: first of all, reducing officers in the army. That is, people who were taught to fight in the professional army for five years turned out to be the most unnecessary (as a bonus for the authorities, with this approach, the dismissed do not need to be provided with apartments). That is, a fighter who has served a year and has remained on an extra-term is a pro.
              As a person who has served two years, of which training is half a year, I can say that more or less a fighter is the second year of service. The year I did for the recruits, I understand this: learned, a little practice, and in reserve. Who protects our country from the aggressor is not clear. I came across over-conscripts - ambiguous impressions.
            2. seregatara1969
              seregatara1969 5 July 2020 00: 31 New
              0
              Nothing! Our people are already there! Right now they will go to serve in the NATO army! We learn all the secrets without a fight! Yes, and “love” homeland will learn a little, in Russian
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 4 July 2020 16: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: BlackMokona

        Tipo leftists in the army do not want to serve, but Natsik with joy

        Yes Natsik in Germany is now less than the neighbors.
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 4 July 2020 18: 40 New
          +4
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Yes Natsik in Germany is now less than the neighbors.

          Now in Germany, the Arabs went wild, which I am sure will lead to a multiple increase in the number of nitsiks.
        2. Normal ok
          Normal ok 4 July 2020 19: 18 New
          -3
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: BlackMokona

          Tipo leftists in the army do not want to serve, but Natsik with joy

          Yes Natsik in Germany is now less than the neighbors.

          And, interestingly, according to the German media (the same is confirmed by the German government), German Natsik periodically undergo military training in the Leningrad region. That's really the fight against Nazism in full swing.
      3. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 4 July 2020 16: 26 New
        +2
        Greetings to Mokon. Here, as they say. Two ways))))) Either there isn’t enough money or those who have come in large numbers are going to process them.
      4. muham
        muham 5 July 2020 20: 35 New
        0
        Quote: BlackMokona
        Tipo leftists in the army do not want to serve, but Natsik with joy. Here they have Tipo and bias
        You are mistaken, Muslims and the Afro-German population want to let them in.
    2. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 4 July 2020 15: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: Dart2027
      I didn’t understand something, but what did it have to do with it?

      In March, a neo-Nazi cell was revealed in the elite special forces of the Bundeswehr, a division of "KSK" (number 1100 people). The goal was the physical elimination of the left deputies.
      1. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 4 July 2020 16: 29 New
        +1
        Oh Vladimir, someone smacks of fake. You are here almost half of the special forces in the revolutionaries recorded. GDRovtsov long been fired for ideology))))))
        1. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 4 July 2020 16: 46 New
          +2
          Why, the search does not work ... Then read in German sources!
          https://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2019-12/bundeswehr-ksk-soldat-annegret-kramp-karrenbauer-rechtsextremismus

          https://www.blaetter.de/ausgabe/2017/juni/im-geiste-der-freikorps-rechtsradikale-in-uniform
        2. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 4 July 2020 17: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: zadorin1974
          You are here almost half of the special forces in the revolutionaries recorded. GDRovtsov long been fired according to ideology
          And where are the GDR sheep? You do not know what is the difference between right and left nationalists?
          1. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 4 July 2020 23: 55 New
            0
            Yes, brost. Vladimir. I’m not from evil (from the same GDR, it’s okay to say nothing about STA Z) My friends live in Bavaria, a Russian (for the Bundes all Russians were visiting) suburban rayonchik. Dima writes that the hiring price has jumped -Duyachi began to relocate to the area (previously avoided) Our comers just immediately extinguished.
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 4 July 2020 16: 46 New
        0
        Quote: Vladimir61
        a neo-Nazi cell was revealed

        I heard something, but it’s still not clear how the call will help.
        1. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 4 July 2020 17: 09 New
          0
          Quote: Dart2027
          I heard something, but it’s still not clear how the call will help

          The elite detachment of the German armed forces Kommando Spezialkräfte (KSK) fell under the influence of right-wing extremists and neo-Nazis, the special unit is subject to reorganization. On this, July 1, said the Minister of Defense of Germany Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, her statement is posted on the Bundeswehr website.
          The main conclusion is that the problem did not arise immediately, but as a result of the abolition of rotation in the Bundeswehr, the closure and self-isolation of units on the professional principle of selection. Many German experts admit that the percentage of right-wingers in the Bundeswehr can reach 20%. The term for consideration of the issue is October 2020.
        2. Prisoner
          Prisoner 4 July 2020 17: 40 New
          +1
          Leftists with the right will be in the barracks of each other to sweep. A ride for combat training. laughing
  2. Sergey39
    Sergey39 4 July 2020 14: 55 New
    +2
    Of course, now in the German army the most important problem is the problem of gender relations. Without her decision, a general military duty cannot be introduced.
    1. credo
      credo 4 July 2020 15: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Sergey39
      Of course, now in the German army the most important problem is the problem of gender relations. Without her decision, a general military duty cannot be introduced.

      I think that the first who will be against the BBO should be the United States, as an increase in the number of new recruits in the Bundeswehr will lead to an increase in budget allocations for the German Ministry of Defense and German defense industry enterprises. And there you see the army and navy, together with German aviation, get stronger and you can create a European army led by the armed forces of Germany. Is this what the United States fought for when they created NATO and imposed their arms standards on European satellites.
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 4 July 2020 15: 15 New
        +2
        The Germans must first remove the women from command. And the United States would now deal with its problems. Merkel has the opportunity to create an army.
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 4 July 2020 16: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: Sergey39
          The Germans must first remove the women from command.

          In no case! Why do we need this?
      2. Avior
        Avior 4 July 2020 17: 54 New
        0
        Americans have long been pushing for an increase in German defense budget allocations to NATO's generally accepted 2 percent
      3. ZAV69
        ZAV69 4 July 2020 20: 01 New
        -1
        Quote: credo
        And there you look the army and navy, along with German aviation

        Another trip east, behind birch crosses
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 July 2020 16: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: Sergey39
      Of course, now in the German army the most important problem is the problem of gender relations.

      The problem is simply solved, divided into three parts "he", "she" and "it", make three barracks and three toilets.
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 4 July 2020 16: 23 New
        +1
        And if the floors are 52? laughing
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 4 July 2020 17: 14 New
          0
          Quote: Sergey39
          And if the floors are 52?

          To put three-tier bunks.
    3. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 4 July 2020 16: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: Sergey39
      Now in the German army the most important problem is the problem of gender relations.

      Especially if there are already five of them ... wassat
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 4 July 2020 17: 17 New
        0
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        Especially if there are already five of them.

        Well, what a problem to put a couple of extra shocks, the main thing is to want.
  3. Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 4 July 2020 15: 05 New
    +4
    Well, someone has to defend the Nord Stream, which is why Germany is creating an Army.
    Otherwise, it will be like in Ukraine - maidan, poverty, dismantling of the pipe.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 4 July 2020 15: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Dmitry Makarov
      it will be like in Ukraine - maidan, poverty, dismantling of the pipe.

      Exactly. yes With the subsequent separation of Novotevtoniya in the form of the BNR and the SNR (Brandenburg and Saxon People's Republics), where the "east wind" will blow, blowing off Poland in passing. fellow laughing
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 4 July 2020 20: 54 New
        0
        Alexander, rather Bavaria will become "not stale" and "independent" ... The largest land in Germany. The most "powerful" economy within Germany. With a “healthy” sense of self-identity - Bavarians, Franconians, Swabians. Bavaria officially - Free State of Bavaria ... Recall the Bavarian Soviet Republic - April 6 - May 3, 1919. There is its own Bavarian Constitution. yes
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 4 July 2020 21: 00 New
          +3
          Quote: cat Rusich
          rather, Bavaria will become "non-stagnant" and "independent" ..

          But the Bavarians do not consider themselves Germans. And yes, if that pops up first. yes
          Quote: cat Rusich
          Bavaria officially - Free State of Bavaria ...

          Like Saxony. I mean, in the east, the GDR spirit has not yet eroded, and someone completely openly misses the social camp. Well, and since an analogy was made with dill, I slightly developed it. laughing
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 July 2020 15: 18 New
    0
    Very funny ... they themselves believe in the implementation of this project? Is it that they will offer citizenship after service, as in the USA? So in the states, even under a contract, they are hardly completed ...
  5. Mouse
    Mouse 4 July 2020 15: 21 New
    +4
    Hope for an overseas uncle disappears ... you need to cultivate your men wink
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 July 2020 16: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Mouse
      Hope for an overseas uncle disappears ... you need to cultivate your men

      There is no hope; overseas, too, the men have transferred.
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 4 July 2020 16: 28 New
        +1
        One solid blue oyster .... lol
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 4 July 2020 17: 18 New
          -1
          Quote: Mouse
          One solid blue oyster

          And on our site there is a mess with oysters, they started to minus.
          1. Mouse
            Mouse 4 July 2020 17: 25 New
            +2
            Obviously the oysters are offended .... wassat
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  7. Ascetic
    Ascetic 4 July 2020 15: 41 New
    +4
    In any case, this is very good for the Bundeswehr, if a significant part of society has been serving for some time


    Silently brushing away the stingy male tear with tenderness, I will observe how the last remnants of the Teutonic military spirit and gloomy German militarism in the Bundeswehr will fall under the onslaught of a tolerant and politically correct "part of society". The rainbow cross will replace the harsh black and white symbols of the German troops, we will hit extremism and radicalism with the rainbow flag. And there will be happiness for all good
    In the photo, former Minister of Defense of Germany Ursula von der Leyen holds a meeting on the place of sexual minorities in the armed forces. It is noteworthy that the meeting was marked by the cross of the Bundeswehr, painted in bright colors. This is February 2017.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 July 2020 16: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Ascetic
      In the photo, former Minister of Defense of Germany Ursula von der Leyen holds a meeting on the place of sexual minorities in the armed forces.

      Well, these pale blue will fight them.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 18: 09 New
        0
        But it’s better for them not to surrender.
  8. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 4 July 2020 15: 44 New
    +2
    Bundeswehr tankmen
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 July 2020 19: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Bundeswehr tankmen

      There was the film Three Tankers and a Dog, and now Three Tankers and Two Oysters will be released.
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 4 July 2020 21: 24 New
        -2
        Three tankers
        Three happy friends
        And Two Someone-ro-something winked
  9. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 4 July 2020 15: 47 New
    -1
    In confirmation of your words hi
    ----------
    Europe needs to seriously think about a new reality in which the US may not aspire, as before, to take the place of world leader, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said in an interview published on June 26 with a number of European newspapers, including The Guardian.

    “We grew up with a certain knowledge that the United States wants to be a world power. If the US now wants to stop playing this role of its own free will, we need to seriously think about it, ”she said.
  10. Fargus
    Fargus 4 July 2020 16: 17 New
    13
    I have long wanted to register, and here on this news I got burned ... pa. Not because of the author, but because of how the Germans lie, Merkel and her rat pup. Right and Natsik in the KSK there. These are patriots of their country who want to serve the people of Germany and not refugees in quotes, Arabs, Syrians, etc. Or fat girls with a snout of a horse, violet-green hair and a weight of 150 kg. The system will call them right. Paid everything and bought by globalists. Sorry, I’ve been living in Europe for 20 years, I served in the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Novosib, but not in my Homeland, I don’t want to see gays in the army, left cannibals. And when we have what they call the elite soldiers-Natsik. Rave. Natsik run in Azov and beat Shariyovtsev like rats.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 July 2020 11: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: Fargus
      Natsik run in Azov and beat Shariyovtsev like rats.

      I have long said that there are far fewer Natsiks in Germany than in Kuyev.
  11. Klingon
    Klingon 4 July 2020 16: 17 New
    +2
    so at Mackerel it (military duty) was canceled, therefore it is against
  12. Shuttle
    Shuttle 4 July 2020 16: 35 New
    +2
    And gays, trances and the remaining 62 types of sexual orientation will also be under arms, along with normal burghers and bauers? What about frau and medhen?
  13. svp67
    svp67 4 July 2020 16: 43 New
    +1
    They will not introduce it, for Germany this is an increase in the budget, which is not needed now, and there is simply no such need
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 July 2020 16: 54 New
    +3
    Germany can restore universal military duty
    Finally, having realized that you won’t get any help from the Americans in terms of protection (from whom?), They will only shock the German wallet more, we decided to return to the old proven method. The German liberal public will completely blow down such statements.
  15. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 4 July 2020 17: 57 New
    +2
    In the modern world, Germans are more interested in sex minorities than the Bundeswehr. So they will go to serve you ...
  16. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 4 July 2020 18: 14 New
    +2
    No, German youth should be free !!
  17. AB
    AB 4 July 2020 18: 19 New
    +1
    I wonder who they will call? They have youth fit for combat training from 18 to 25 for 90 percent of the ARAB! The old woman, Europe, has long forgotten how to give birth.
  18. orionvitt
    orionvitt 4 July 2020 21: 43 New
    +3
    the abolition of universal military duty is a "huge mistake" that led to new cases of right-wing extremism in the German army.
    HA. They think that if the army is diluted with a tolerant rabble of various orientations, then the cases of "right-wing extremism" will disappear? Or maybe the fighting capacity will increase? Extremely naive people. The army is a mirror image of the state. So for starters, the country needs to be put in order. And where the institution of the family is destroyed, unnatural values ​​are planted, they turn everything upside down, there will never be a combat-ready army. Ours in the war fought not only for their homeland for Stalin, but primarily for children, mothers and fathers. And what will they fight for? For homosexual values? And then they are sincerely surprised that cases of right-wing extremism have increased in the army.
  19. certero
    certero 5 July 2020 08: 02 New
    0
    Do not. Who will appease the Germans?
  20. iouris
    iouris 5 July 2020 13: 38 New
    -1
    Am I also a non-German Bundeswehr?
  21. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 6 July 2020 02: 22 New
    0
    I agree with her, it is necessary to raise patriotism in the army
    ps I'm not talking about Nazism, but about patriotism
  22. Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 6 July 2020 16: 03 New
    0
    Everything is fine ... As long as the women drive, you can not perceive the Bundeswehr as something intelligently controlled.