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“Give everything back ...” Lack of continuity as a curse of Russian authorities

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Many of the rulers of our country, the arbiters of its destinies, who have occupied or occupy the highest government posts, have often heard (heard) accusations of a categorical unwillingness to leave their posts, to retire. In this case, as a rule, some commonplace reasons are called, such as pathological love of power, desire to always enjoy one’s own status, etc. Is everything so simple in this matter? Do not try to look into the essence of things?


For a strong man with certain convictions, aspirations, his own vision of the path of the state entrusted to him (whether by fate, dynastic law, people), power and the inextricably linked enormous, unimaginable responsibility for many over time inevitably turn from a feasible burden into a burden. So, the power was tired, drained to the limit, and a person is happy to ready to shift it onto someone else's shoulders. However, the problem arises: in order to not be in the role of the one who betrayed his own business at the end of his life devoted to the country’s arrangement, he must be transferred to someone!

But the question is: to whom? For a better understanding, each of us should perhaps imagine ourselves in the role of the owner of a beautiful and solid house, surrounded by a luxurious well-kept garden. You built this house from the foundation: brick by brick, by log. And, perhaps, they raised it from the ruins left after the previous grief-owners. You cultivated the garden, sparing no effort and time. Sometimes they protected what you created from greedy and roguish neighbors, only eager to pull everything apart, or even ruin it. And now the house is built, the garden blooms and bears fruit, and you are already far from those years to carry everything and be responsible for everything. It's time to enjoy a long time and is full of well-deserved peace, relaxing in a blessed shade and tasting the fruits of their labors.

But who will continue the work? It would be nice to build another wing to the house, the garden needs care and protection. Heirs seem to be there, but ... One is frivolous, the other is executive, but requires constant monitoring and is not capable of deciding anything on his own. The third seems to be good, but clearly wants to rebuild everything here in that stupid manner, which was instituted by the neighbors opposite. The fourth can completely break and ruin everything, carried away by “changes” and “improvements”. Perestroika is drawn to it in the end ... As a result, you understand with horror that there is no one to transfer the economy to! In your opinion ... "To draw up an act of inheritance", even to designate someone to whom you could transfer everything, as you yourself think, means to doom everything that you put your energy into, your soul, to which you have dedicated your whole life, to the inevitable devastation. And you, groaning, go further to do things until you have enough strength, bitterly lamenting that you have not bothered with such a seemingly simple question earlier.

Alas, it was in this way that the fate of our Fatherland evolved, more than once, from time immemorial. John the Terrible dies without leaving a worthy heir, and the country breaks down in a series of changes of rulers, which ultimately ends in the Time of Troubles that nearly destroyed her. The words put in the title are the only things that Peter the Great manages to leave on the slate. The one who could continue his work simply does not exist, and in the Russian Empire there comes a series of palace coups, “Indian reigns”, the rule of favorites and temporary workers right up to the reign of Catherine the Great. But her heirs again do not become her successors. Again intrigues, coups, trampling the country in place instead of moving forward.

Unfortunately, the lack of continuity in power does not only mean the danger of an internal conflict that threatens to escalate into a civil war and the collapse of the state. The “connection of times” cut off with the death of the next ruler is always about unrealized projects, disintegrating alliances, lost perspectives and chances that are not repeated later. This is the inevitable shyness of the state from side to side in foreign and domestic policy. At least stagnation, and maximum - regression, and even death.

It would seem that with the coming to power of the Bolsheviks, this issue should have disappeared from the agenda forever. No dynastically predetermined inheritance, continuous democratic centralism and most importantly - a single idea that unites all party members and primarily its leaders, each of which (theoretically) should think in the same vein as his associates. That is precisely what Lenin believed. Contrary to all the fabrications, he left the country not to Trotsky or Stalin, but to the party created by him. The personality was secondary, and in the first place was the idea, which the party was supposed to implement. Nevertheless, life resolutely refuted Ilyich’s firm belief in the insignificance or secondary role of the individual in stories. The USSR of Trotsky and the USSR of Stalin - these were potentially completely two different countries. Both were Lenin's successors, but it turned out as it happened.

And Stalin himself simply had to “hold the wheel” until death removed him from “post No. 1” in the USSR. There was no one to hand over the Soviet state, which he created, twice raised from the wreckage, defended in unprecedented battles. Talk about the possible successors of the Generalissimo has been and will continue to be endless. Zhdanov? Kirov? By the 50s they simply were not in the world. Lavrentiy Beria was truly the best of the leader’s associates, but, as the events of 1953 showed, he could not rise to the height of a successor.

Khrushchev, who came to power in a very short period of time, reviewed all the policies that were implemented by the former leader. The infinitely begging "to rule the country a little more" Brezhnev, despite the fact that his health openly did not allow this. As a result - agony, the embodiment of which became the "Kremlin elders", who were prisoners and slaves of an absolutely excessive power for them. The result is logical - the destroyer came to power and dismantled the country under the guise of "perestroika". Not helped to defend her and those who swore allegiance to her. The country was stupefied, deceived. Although here you can’t remember the classic with his "... I'm glad to be deceived myself."

The main question remains open: why are really sensible, strong, energetic rulers who are true patriots of their homeland, as a rule, unable to cultivate a worthy change for themselves? This question is extremely complex and multifaceted. Perhaps many scientists (historians, psychologists, sociologists) should be worth breaking their heads over him. Perhaps the problem is that in the shadow of the great they simply cannot grow equal to them. Or, on the contrary, in the fact that the leaders themselves, measuring everything by themselves, make excessively high demands on potential successors, while implicitly not wanting to get their own copy next to them, only in a younger and more active version.

A simple and unambiguous answer is hardly possible here, but it is necessary to find it. The absence of true continuity of power for centuries is a real curse for our country and the government itself.
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  1. ssergey1978
    ssergey1978 4 July 2020 09: 12 New
    -63
    I didn’t even read a billiarda.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 4 July 2020 09: 17 New
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      Quote: ssergey1978
      I didn’t even read a billiarda.

      And as I understood it, that "Beleberd", if you did not read belay ? It's like with Pasternak - "I did not read, but I condemn"?

      In general, the topic raised is interesting, relevant, topical.
      True, not disclosed ...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 4 July 2020 09: 22 New
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        Quote: Insurgent
        And as I understood it, that "Beleberd", if you did not read

        He looked for familiar letters, and did not find, probably.
        1. ssergey1978
          ssergey1978 4 July 2020 09: 29 New
          -42
          I did not find a couple. I just didn’t read nonsense.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 4 July 2020 09: 30 New
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            Quote: ssergey1978
            I did not find a couple.

            What kind of couple? Pederastov Stoll, what the Constitution blocked?
            1. ssergey1978
              ssergey1978 4 July 2020 09: 34 New
              -34
              Are you buggers worried? I sympathize. Or did you apply a derogatory trick? Don't sympathize
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 4 July 2020 09: 41 New
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                Quote: ssergey1978
                Are you buggers worried?

                No, they will end up in the Konstantion, like a hedgehog in a fly agaric.
                Quote: ssergey1978
                Don't sympathize

                And I need it?
                1. ssergey1978
                  ssergey1978 4 July 2020 09: 51 New
                  -17
                  It’s ridiculous. Be sure to stub.
              2. DMB_95
                DMB_95 4 July 2020 12: 01 New
                +8
                Quote: ssergey1978
                Are you buggers worried?

                They bother me on the site. You come here in the morning to read something and then discuss, and in the comments, some bugger was the first to manage to blur some stupidity and jumped on the comments, discouraging the desire to come here. Modera, or work on it and remove any rubbish on time, or the site will become the domain of buggers.
                1. ssergey1978
                  ssergey1978 4 July 2020 13: 49 New
                  -13
                  Maybe you just looked in the mirror in the morning?
                2. Klingon
                  Klingon 4 July 2020 17: 03 New
                  +7
                  But how do you define and distinguish them here on the site? type: "hey dude! I feel from your comment that you are TOGO" wassat can share the "experience"? laughing
                3. ver_
                  ver_ 13 July 2020 10: 59 New
                  0
                  .... strange - I have 2 warnings for these very * unconventional * - aren't you afraid? ..
        2. depressant
          depressant 4 July 2020 10: 26 New
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          Colleagues, let's not discuss each other's analytical capabilities, but turn to the article. The first part, which describes a beautiful, well-kept house, in fact, a completed project, conflicts with the second part, according to which the project is not completed. And indeed it is. I do not know how it was under Ivan the Terrible, but Joseph Vissarionovich died, to my great regret, only 9 years after the end of the Second World War. In the European part of the country, despite the successes in restoring the national economy, there were still many ruins. But not only. The change in the role of the CPSU was supposed, the councils of deputies should come to the forefront, which means that the economic authorities, while maintaining the role of the party as an ideological trustee, stopping too serious a departure from communist ideology -
          the distant good goal of society, which you must definitely go to - a guideline should be! Did not have time. Stalin did not have time. Died ...
          From the point of view of "not in time," I understand our president. However, it is important - "Camo is coming?" A positive reference point is poorly viewed. Negative so far - distinctly.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 4 July 2020 10: 34 New
            +5
            Quote: depressant
            From the point of view of "not in time," I understand our president.

            And almost four years ahead, isn’t there a sufficient period to catch up, fix, finish something?
            1. depressant
              depressant 4 July 2020 11: 37 New
              +7
              Oh, colleague ...
              Four years is so little! Time is fleeting, days are like sand through the fingers of an open palm. Years ... Probably not in the history of the ruler, who managed to do everything conceived. Without justifying Putin, I want to note that he did not build the power vertical, he inherited it from the decomposed ruling elite of the USSR, built in the way that that elite understood. He had neither the strength nor the ability to change its design. The engineers nearby were unsuitable. Putin is a man trapped in a whirlpool of events, not knowing how to swim out of it in order to change the design. Yes, and did not know how to do this, because he hardly had intentions and has such now. He himself is a product of the vertical and is capable of only replacing unsuitable links without changing the design. For fit - according to his understanding. Arrests, landings are underway, see yesterday’s news, today's. But the one who builds into the place of those who left for crime will soon become the same or leave. We are waiting for a man who kicks that vertical with his foot, it will crumble, and he will build a new one. But from what? Of the same debris, there is no other material. And there is a suspicion that picking up fragments that resemble each other, he involuntarily collects the same hated structure - the bureaucracy is immortal due to self-reproduction. Maybe that's why any head protruding from the maelstrom of events, Putin is drowning. A head claiming to be a vertical destroyer. In the absence of ideology, this is Putin's only task - drowning a potential destroyer. It would seem that he would have taken it and declared it: we are building socialism. Almost announced. Implicitly, like everything he does. In the Constitution. And there he declared monarchism. No, not "zeroing." And the invariability of the article, the meaning of which is reduced to the impossibility of revising the results of privatization. This is the contradiction between the two trends. How will they be held together so that the country's building does not shake? Didn't collapse so?
              1. Jurkovs
                Jurkovs 4 July 2020 12: 48 New
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                The Russian people are smeared with a thin layer across the expanses of Eurasia. In order to save himself, not to dissolve in these open spaces, he will not be reborn into a hundred of little worthless people, he needs a strong vertical of power. But the paradox is this. that because of the same length of the country, he is unable to control this power. The last example is from the 90s. The Russian people silently watched what Moscow was doing, unable to intervene.
                1. depressant
                  depressant 4 July 2020 13: 03 New
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                  Right, Jurkovs. Especially we, engineers, doctors, teachers, scientists, retired military men who lived in the territories of the "former". And now the president announces: there are not enough workers, a broad road for migrants to our country! I think he confused something. Not enough well-paid jobs. And the migrants will flood. Tajiks. Smearing us Russians in Russia with an even thinner layer than we were smeared in the Union.
                  1. Virus-free crown
                    Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 14: 48 New
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                    Quote: depressant
                    Right, Jurkovs. Especially we, engineers, doctors, teachers, scientists, retired military men who lived in the territories of the "former". And now the president announces: there are not enough workers, a broad road for migrants to our country! I think he confused something. Not enough well-paid jobs. And the migrants will flood. Tajiks. Smearing us Russians in Russia with an even thinner layer than we were smeared in the Union.


                    In the in !!! This is where in Russia right now there are not enough working hands ?! The people are ready to work !!! Only places where a man can earn money to feed his wife + children are not at all !!! Feed - I mean give a decent life to the citizens of Russia !!! and not starve to death, stretching your sn at 17 thousand rubles per month per family !!! (according to the President - a payroll of 17 thousand rubles is a payroll of the MIDDLE class in Russia - I would look at him when he himself would try to live on this money, myself, alone without a family)
                    1. Jurkovs
                      Jurkovs 5 July 2020 07: 51 New
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                      Quote: Crown without virus
                      Only places where a man can earn money to feed his wife + children are not at all !!!

                      Open your regional newspaper in the Wanted section. You will see a huge number of vacancies for work on a shift. Yes, laborers are rarely required there, mainly specialists are needed. But in the same newspaper there are a lot of announcements from training centers (if we have this, then why you may have something wrong) that train just those specialties that are required. But those 6% of the unemployed whom Putin said were either in the office or they don’t know what they want, but they won’t go on duty.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 5 July 2020 08: 00 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Jurkovs
                        But those 6% of the unemployed that Putin said were either in the office or they don’t know what they want, but they won’t go on duty.

                        No need to ring out. And anyway, what's good about a shift? A two-by-four trailer, a blue cabin, half-filled with shit, one prostitute for four?
                      2. your1970
                        your1970 5 July 2020 18: 42 New
                        +1
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: Jurkovs
                        But those 6% of the unemployed that Putin said were either in the office or they don’t know what they want, but they won’t go on duty.

                        No need to ring out. And anyway, what's good about a shift? A two-by-four trailer, a blue cabin, half-filled with shit, one prostitute for four?

                        here is an article next to you about buying a shipyard in India and screaming about what we need to build with us. I absolutely agree with this - but it’s very expensive to build, to build in large coastal cities. That means construction workers' shift to some small town, and then shift workers at the built shipyard
                      3. Akuzenka
                        Akuzenka 5 July 2020 19: 57 New
                        +2
                        Colleagues, you are discussing particulars. Until the system (ownership of the means of production) changes, the situation will only worsen. He is such capitalism - squeezes juices and destroys EVERYTHING that he can reach.
                      4. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 5 July 2020 20: 00 New
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                        Quote: your1970
                        and then the shift of workers to the built shipyard

                        This is not the case. The fact is that under the USSR, I walked 5 minutes to work.
                      5. your1970
                        your1970 5 July 2020 22: 23 New
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: your1970
                        and then the shift of workers to the built shipyard

                        This is not the case. The fact is that under the USSR, I walked 5 minutes to work.

                        yes who argues something ???
                        only your factory is ZIL (if my memory serves me right):
                        1) stood in the middle of the city - and today the residents categorically do not want a factory to smoke under the windows. And in the USSR this question was also raised (in particular, on Lake Baikal)
                        2) if you are now building a plant in the middle of a million-plus city or even nearby, it will stand golden. Land, communications, roads ...
                        2) your factory used a fairly large number of "limits" (migrant workers, according to the present). I see the only difference between the limit and the current Gaster - that then they were fixed by the factory through hostels and apartments, and eventually became specialists
                        And so then, what is now - a shift ...
                      6. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 5 July 2020 22: 30 New
                        -1
                        Quote: your1970
                        only your factory is ZIL (if my memory serves me right):

                        Branch of all that.
                        Quote: your1970
                        stood in the middle of the city - and today, residents categorically do not want a factory to smoke under the windows. And in the USSR this question was also raised (in particular, on Lake Baikal)

                        On the outskirts of the city.
                        Quote: your1970
                        Our plant used a fairly large number of "limits" (migrant workers, according to the present).

                        Here you have a finger in the anus. In our factory, they preferred one and those from their school. Upload a photo?
                      7. your1970
                        your1970 5 July 2020 22: 47 New
                        +1
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Branch of all that.
                        -then sorry, I considered you working in Moscow at ZIL ...
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Here you have a finger in the anus
                        -there is no stronger argument fool ?
                        Then put in there the whole Avtozavodskaya with all the adjacent dormitories / small families / apartments ... They lived there NOT Muscovites - there lived a limit, Zil received the largest limit on workers ...
                        Muscovites (real !!) have never worked in ZIL and similar places, they were looking for warmer places under the USSR ..
                      8. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 5 July 2020 22: 56 New
                        +1
                        Quote: your1970
                        then sorry, I considered you working in Moscow at ZIL ...

                        Not. ZIL branch.
                        Quote: your1970
                        Then put the whole Avtozavodskaya factory with all the adjacent dormitories / small families / apartments ... Muscovites did NOT live there - there lived a limit, Zil received the largest limit on workers ...

                        My dad got four more than 80 squares.
                      9. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 5 July 2020 23: 14 New
                        0
                        Quote: your1970
                        adjacent dormitories / small families / apartments ... Muscovites did NOT live there - there lived a limit, Zil received the largest limit on workers ...
                        Muscovites (real !!) have never worked in ZIL and similar places, they were looking for warmer places under the USSR ..
                        Searched, very
          2. depressant
            depressant 5 July 2020 11: 56 New
            +1
            Here you are a little wrong, colleague Jurkovs. Once, in every mailbox of my Khrushchev’s, a regional newspaper of announcements arrived. There were sections on the purchase and sale of apartments, as well as on the hiring and supply of labor. Advertising windows, doors, suspended ceilings, the sale of kitchens, etc. There was even a crossword puzzle. It was read with interest. So, the number of hiring offers over the past three years has been rapidly declining, but once there was a whole page. Remained the requirements of highly skilled workers - installers, machine tools, cooks with experience, directors. At the same time, the offer was expanding with the same swiftness - computer technicians, paint, repair, bring, sit with children, dig a well, etc. ...
            Since last fall, the newspaper has stopped coming. But our regional center is a large city near Moscow. Knowledgeable people say official large call centers are also wasted. They send a person to the company, they will interview him, they say that they say we’ll call and meet. In the vast majority of cases. Finding a decent job is now extremely difficult and perhaps impossible. You will not even be taken as a janitor on the assumption that the Russian will not agree to a rollback to his superiors from his salary, and if he agrees, he can sell his superiors to law enforcement officers, and they will have to give a bribe so that there is no criminal case. Much more reliable Tajik. And in construction - in general, the Asian mafia that does not allow Russians ...
            Yes, we have a young Russian woman working as a janitor, a lonely daughter, a teenager. But this is an exception that the residents achieved by categorically protesting against the boorish, arrogant Tajik cleaning ladies. We so wanted. Russian - its own, does not grumble because of the rollback. Because the authorities form fake complaints against her. She tolerates, we protect her, but this is possible only in a small village where everyone knows each other. In large cities, you can find work only by communication. Call centers and classified sites - decency. A company that does not publish advertisements for hiring, as it were, is losing its reputation. In addition, the announcement of the employment - additional advertising. So as not to be forgotten and that, they say, cool, working, expanding. Hence the situation with the labor exchange. They give an address, a person arrives, but they already have an employee, they say. And he was not needed ...
            Walked through our local classified sites. Offers of labor - the sea, offers of employment - a tiny stream. For me, a test of the state of employment is the lack of a newspaper advertisement in my inbox.
    2. BAI
      BAI 4 July 2020 17: 16 New
      -3
      in a hundred little worthless people

      Absolutely criminal (against humanity) phrase. Continuing Hitler about racial inferiority?
  2. Motorist
    Motorist 4 July 2020 18: 33 New
    +3
    Quote: depressant
    invariability of the article, the meaning of which is the impossibility of revising the results of privatization

    What kind of article, depressant? Can't you quote? If you are talking about article 9, part 2, then everything has its time.
    1. depressant
      depressant 4 July 2020 19: 02 New
      +5
      Yes, it’s about her. Land reform. Already announced, will be. Let's see if the latifundia will develop.
    2. Alf
      Alf 4 July 2020 19: 04 New
      +7
      Quote: Motorist
      Quote: depressant
      invariability of the article, the meaning of which is the impossibility of revising the results of privatization

      What kind of article, depressant? Can't you quote? If you are talking about article 9, part 2, then everything has its time.

      There will be no revision of the results of privatization, but also
      The Russian government is preparing a new “wave” of sales of state-owned companies in 2020. It is known that Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev approved the plan for the main directions of privatization of federal property for 2020-2022.

      We are talking about 186 joint-stock companies, 86 federal state unitary enterprises and participation shares of the Russian Federation in 13 limited liability companies. The order also refers to almost a thousand objects of other property of the state treasury.
  3. illi
    illi 5 July 2020 10: 38 New
    +1
    Arrests, landings go, see yesterday’s news, today's

    It doesn’t work like that. This works on a personal example. Stalin could demand from subordinates because he himself was an example.
    And then when everything is friends, and the rest of the law. In general, this vertical will not work constructively.
  • New
    New Year day 4 July 2020 11: 59 New
    +8
    Quote: Insurgent
    And almost four years ahead, isn’t there a sufficient period to catch up, fix, finish something?

    will not be 4 years old. He is sick and there is no time left. In October-November a successor will be presented
    1. depressant
      depressant 4 July 2020 12: 49 New
      0
      Dr. Silvestr, you said this before, but I didn’t attach any importance to this - the doctors gossip about anything. And now I read and was upset, because I am a Russian person. I wish Vladimir Vladimirovich health! President, brace yourself!
      1. New
        New Year day 4 July 2020 14: 56 New
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        Quote: depressant
        Do you know what doctors gossip about?

        doctors do not gossip, but discuss what is so far invisible to everyone.
        1. depressant
          depressant 4 July 2020 17: 22 New
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          And then suddenly I thought. Is this not Putin’s diplomatic position? Autumn is near. I remember that last fall the old women said how scary to live. And now - a whole package of aggressive laws, up to the application of stun guns by the police, some have already been introduced at the beginning of the year, others are on the way (the State Duma is digging the laws for digitalization tirelessly), the people will go dark (already in my village), it will start grumble, and here - Putin fell ill! Unloved by all Medvedev replaces - feel the difference! Time passes, from Medvedev the grunts of the population, like water from a goose, maybe Rosgvardia will be connected for the sake of suggesting to those who are not understanding that everything is going as it should. And when the people, gritting their teeth, go down, put up with new disadvantages, then Putin will recover, return and give families with children 10 thousand each, raise pensions - what a relief! Maybe?
          1. New
            New Year day 4 July 2020 17: 28 New
            +8
            Quote: depressant
            Maybe?

            everything is possible in our life. Rumor has it that the real Putin is gone. request
            But seriously, then 67 years old is a very respectable age, whether you like it or not, but it leaves an imprint on thoughts and actions.
            Even now I’m 24 years old - different in beliefs, actions, and I hope 67 will be fulfilled.
            Therefore, I think that in the future, 67 years is not the best age for such combinations. The fact that Medvedev will emerge is very possible. Now he will sit out, be forgotten, and then - like a snuffbox! But there are no friends. There is a serpentarium
            1. depressant
              depressant 4 July 2020 17: 43 New
              +2
              I say in a simple way - an adder)) I recall how Sobyanin and Mishustin got together on the subject of who is the main in the country. Mishustin was quickly sent to self-isolation, they stopped talking about Sobyanin that he was the head of the epidemic elimination committee and therefore more important than Mishustin. And Putin is in isolation. Who led the country? But not a picture from the TV with the image of the perched. Maybe we ourselves did not understand that we survived the period of anarchy. Or quietly someone's mysterious imperious ears appeared.
            2. New
              New Year day 4 July 2020 17: 56 New
              +3
              Quote: depressant
              I speak in a simple way - an adder))

              you recall the last statements of Putin, they are mostly aggressive. He even expressed territorial claims to his neighbors. There is a good interview with G. Pavlovsky about the mental portrait of GDP. Not without curiosity he looked.
              So age and permanent opst left an imprint on thoughts. But thoughts are sometimes realized in deeds. request
            3. depressant
              depressant 4 July 2020 18: 22 New
              +1
              I don’t know what Gleb Pavlovsky says there, but, on the one hand, our people are hindered by pride due to the loss of the territory of the Union, and it is beneficial for Putin to be the leader of these moods, to lead them, which would bring the population under his leadership in a broad sense. On the other hand, it can be driven into a corner not so much because of the Venezuelan oil itself, but because it got into the United States garden - well, or something else, it may be nervous because of possible sanctions personally prepares answers for him - a lot of different things. Hence aggression - on the one hand, and on the other - talk about the disease. I handed over my powers as a patient, and the presidency is not sanctioned. In general, nervous work. Especially when there are idiots around which it is impossible to get rid of - then friends, then friends of friends, etc. As for False Putin, yes, they have been saying for a long time. Even if true, what's the difference? False or false, if only worked as it should. But if it’s false, it won’t.
            4. Hagen
              Hagen 4 July 2020 19: 30 New
              -1
              Quote: Silvestr
              Interview with G. Pavlovsky on the mental portrait of GDP.

              Since when did Pavlovsky become a psychiatrist or psychotherapist? Especially the one to which you can refer when assessing someone else's mental state? For a medical professional, it’s more than strange. Although for an amateur political scientist, any assessment that satisfies a personal position is acceptable. All of these opuses about Putin’s state of health have a nasty little political appeal. Well, not much is left until the end of the year. Wait and see how much Mr. Sylvester is right. I bet that this assessment of health has no serious basis ... January 1, 2021 is ready to return to the topic.
            5. New
              New Year day 4 July 2020 19: 59 New
              -1
              Quote: Hagen
              Since when did Pavlovsky become a psychiatrist or psychotherapist?

              Pavlovsky stood at the origins of the formation of the personality of GDP. An observant person can see the difference in human behavioral reactions over 20 years. You see changes in the behavior of your neighbors, relatives, although not a psychiatrist
            6. Hagen
              Hagen 4 July 2020 20: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: Silvestr
              Pavlovsky stood at the origins of the formation of the personality of GDP.

              GP is a long-standing opposition to Putin. His assessments are politicized and biased, i.e. sharply subjective, the goals of their voicing in public space are not advertised, but are clearly present. I would not rely on them. Especially if there are opportunities to attract professional psychiatrists in this matter on a "friendly" arrangement. I don’t think that with experience in the medical community you have no such opportunities.
      2. Malyuta
        Malyuta 4 July 2020 17: 56 New
        +6
        Quote: depressant
        I say in a simple way - an adder)) I recall how Sobyanin and Mishustin got together on the subject of who is the main in the country.

        This is a viper, it’s only from the same pro-Putin deck. You can only divide these serpents: you can topple it or not. You can fight only for a place in the flying jet, and they stole for 10 lives, it’s important to save and leave from retaliation.
        Quote: depressant
        Who led the country?

        Mid-level managers, they will not go anywhere even with a complete change of power, unless, of course, they are noticed in the embezzlement.
        You too exaggerate the role of Putin, I repeat, he was blinded from what was at the request of the people, such as with a firm hand and a "teetotaler."
        Threat. Try to explain to yourself in what the original dullard was strong? Maybe in the economy? In politics? In what?
      3. New
        New Year day 4 July 2020 17: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: depressant
        how Sobyanin and Mishustin got together on the subject of who is in charge of the country.

        So Sobyanin turned out as a savior of the Fatherland laughing But there must be many Savior, and therefore they fought.
      4. depressant
        depressant 4 July 2020 18: 39 New
        +1
        Sylvester, maybe the other way around?))) Savior - he alone should be. That's why they fought.
      5. New
        New Year day 4 July 2020 20: 00 New
        0
        Quote: depressant
        Sylvester, maybe the other way around?))) Savior - he alone should be.

        cleverly noticed! hi The most important!
  • 210ox
    210ox 4 July 2020 17: 13 New
    +3
    Humanly, of course, one should wish good health. But nevertheless, new blood is needed in the government. Not only “tagged 2.0”
  • Alf
    Alf 4 July 2020 19: 06 New
    +6
    Quote: depressant
    President, brace yourself!

    Only change the bad boyars ... otherwise you probably don’t know what they are doing.
    1. depressant
      depressant 4 July 2020 19: 24 New
      +1
      Yes, the press and experts are already making spicy hints at the shuffling of power. For example, Mikhail Vinogradov, president of the Petersburg Politics Foundation, notes that "this is the intrigue of today and the coming days." If those seated to the right of the president take seats on his left, and those seated on the left go to the right, it will be ridiculous. If unknown people are appointed instead of the well-known, we will begin to delve into: who they are and how they deserved favor, what is their potential for stealing the state budget and bribe-taking.
      1. Alf
        Alf 4 July 2020 19: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: depressant
        what deserved favor

        More faithful.
        Quote: depressant
        what is their potential theft of the state budget and bribe-taking.

        It is unlimited, but limited by the scope of what it has already stolen ... mastered.
        1. depressant
          depressant 4 July 2020 20: 10 New
          0
          Alf, you are a pessimist)) Seated in new chairs, the appointees will look around, find the framework that limits the possibilities of embezzlement, and with a smirk habitually moved them apart with trained hands.
        2. Alf
          Alf 4 July 2020 20: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: depressant
          Alf, you are a pessimist

          A pessimist is a well-informed optimist.
        3. depressant
          depressant 4 July 2020 20: 54 New
          0
          The guys, who are already excited about the transplant from place to place in excitement, have the glasses also half full.
        4. Alf
          Alf 4 July 2020 20: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: depressant
          The guys, who are already excited about the transplant from place to place in excitement, have the glasses also half full.

          But those who already feel their transplantation by the fifth point are half empty ...
  • cniza
    cniza 4 July 2020 16: 52 New
    +4
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: Insurgent
    And almost four years ahead, isn’t there a sufficient period to catch up, fix, finish something?

    will not be 4 years old. He is sick and there is no time left. In October-November a successor will be presented


    This was first discussed back in 2010, but where do you get such information from or can you make a diagnosis in the face?
    1. New
      New Year day 4 July 2020 17: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      and where do you get such information from or can you make a diagnosis in the face?

      Do you think this infa wears the "Sov. Secret" signature stamp for officialdom? And the diagnosis is made on the basis of all the symptoms, large and small, the puzzle should be + info from a variety of sources. So it turns out more or less like an assumption. And the one who has access to the body knows the exact diagnosis. It is natural.
      By the way, if you look, then on the Internet already some representatives of the elite speak out about this
      1. cniza
        cniza 4 July 2020 17: 31 New
        +2
        You know that on the Internet they write, like on a fence, you need to shovel and analyze a lot of information and that is not a fact ... so your forecast will be broadcast in the fall?
        1. New
          New Year day 4 July 2020 17: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          You know that in the internet they write, like on a fence, you need to shovel and analyze a lot of information and that is not a fact ..

          I told you, the totality of everything. And how many secrets can you learn from the open press?
          Quote: cniza
          What is your forecast for the fall will be the transfer?

          No, there will be a position, body movements. These are different things. Now there is only one position - on the throne to the end
          1. cniza
            cniza 4 July 2020 18: 10 New
            +1
            It used to be possible to learn a lot from newspapers, but now everything has disappeared ...
            What means body movements, he has been doing them for a long time, but so far no one is visible ...
          2. New
            New Year day 4 July 2020 20: 02 New
            -2
            Quote: cniza
            he has been doing them for a long time, but so far no one is visible ...

            so there is no result, no body movements. It’s not yet evening
            Quote: cniza
            It used to be possible to learn a lot from newspapers, but now everything has disappeared ...

            by no means
          3. cniza
            cniza 4 July 2020 21: 05 New
            +2
            so there is no result, no body movements. It’s not yet evening

            will not be 4 years old. He is sick and there is no time left. In October-November a successor will be presented


            How do you disagree on the interpretation, is it already or not?
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 4 July 2020 20: 30 New
    +1
    And what is he sick with? About fifteen years they write about it.
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 4 July 2020 12: 33 New
    23
    Quote: Insurgent
    And almost four years ahead, isn’t there a sufficient period to catch up, fix, finish something?

    I'm very sorry, Comrade hi but it was 20 years, 20 years that the Russian Federation lost for development. Let me remind you that at zero oil prices were above $ 140 per barrel, develop, build a country, new cities, towns, infrastructure, restore industry, science, education, medicine. And what is the result? As a result, trillions were exported to the west, tens of thousands of enterprises, research institutes, schools, hospitals, clubs, villages, towns, etc. were destroyed.
    And even if it is hypothetically assumed that the Staronovy zeroed president suddenly changes the vector of development, then he cannot do anything in 4 years, he is weak for development, and his team (shobla) is shitty.
  • lucul
    lucul 4 July 2020 11: 44 New
    -6
    The first part, which describes a beautiful, well-kept house, in fact, a completed project, conflicts with the second part, according to which the project is not completed.

    Yes, everything is simply outrageous ....
    In the absence of external influence, their leaders can be grown like cucumbers in the garden. Let me explain how the generals in the army are updated? Yes, it’s very simple - starting with the lieutenant, they are all checked in the case, they distinguished themselves (in the case, and not according to nepotism), they are led further, under supervision, constantly complicating the task for him (increasing in rank), thereby allowing them to develop. Only by overcoming difficulties does a person grow as a person, therefore, in fact, one does not have to run away from problems, but try to overcome them whenever possible. And this, as a rule, the rich do not understand, raising their children in "greenhouse conditions", and then they fight in impotence, seeing in which vegetable their child has grown.
    So, by “leading” a person right from a lieutenant to a general, you can cultivate a worthy shift for yourself. In citizenship, this is an analogue from the chairman of the district executive committee to the governor / senator, inclusive. The trouble is that, as a rule, this entire chain of posts is occupied by people of only 50+ years old. Where and how do you imagine a shift so ??? It is necessary to update the management team, and begin to appoint people to their initial posts, starting at least 30 years old, and not 50.
    This is still in the absence of external influence, because in fact what is the main advantage of Putin? He almost cut off the external impact (control) on the country, just something, but in fact what is the use for the state. After all, the Anglo-Saxons daaavno monitor our personality shots, and if a really outstanding candidate appears, they simply physically eliminate him, such as Masherova.
    Everything is actually not very difficult if you see the whole picture, but this is the most difficult thing, usually people see only some details of the picture .....
    1. 210ox
      210ox 4 July 2020 17: 17 New
      0
      Vitaly, I don’t understand why you have been advised of the minuses. You’re right. And I repeat that next to the president should be a vice president. As an intern. With the possibility of removal from office as someone who did not manage.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 4 July 2020 17: 30 New
        +4
        Quote: 210ox
        And I repeat that next to the president there should be a vice president. As an intern. With the possibility of removal from office as failed.

        I am very sorry, but the “president" is something not Russian and nm is completely uncharacteristic. As only the presidency was introduced in the USSR, this very president ruined him.
        Only Tips !!! Which will be under national control.
        I repeat, we have vast experience in building a state from scratch, why invent something, we now know all the mistakes and advantages of the Soviet government, let's take that experience, correct mistakes and expand our capabilities and advantages. hi
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 July 2020 18: 13 New
          0
          This is a utopia, proven by practice - the first President appeared from the bowels of the CPSU and the Soviets ...
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 4 July 2020 18: 17 New
            +9
            Quote: cniza
            This is a utopia, proven by practice - the first President appeared from the bowels of the CPSU and the Soviets ..

            The World could not invent and implement anything more reasonable and fair than the Soviet regime.
            1. cniza
              cniza 4 July 2020 18: 20 New
              -1
              Maybe so, but why did they ruin themselves, why did they give birth to a "mouse" - an undertaker?
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 4 July 2020 18: 36 New
                +8
                Quote: cniza
                Maybe so, but why did they ruin themselves, why did they give birth to a "mouse" - an undertaker?

                Lenin wrote about this, about degenerates, rebirths and fellow travelers. Stalin cleaned the ranks, as the Generation of Builders of Communism could and simultaneously grew, but the war burned them all, they laid their lives on the altar of Victory.
                In the party appeared weak, not seasoned by the struggle people, for the most part, from the former petty-bourgeois class.
                At the same time, the party wound up the class struggle after Stalin’s death, chasing the strength and turning from the vanguard of the struggle into skater (not all). It was not necessary to recruit 19 million, and the party had to accept only the worthy and ideological.
                So the unfinished and undetected degenerates, the conjuncturers, disguised enemies, like Yakovlev, and surfaced upstairs.
                Threat. Admirers of PSS Lenin and PSS Stalin, everything is clearly spelled out there.
              2. cniza
                cniza 4 July 2020 18: 51 New
                +2
                Quote: Malyuta

                Threat. Admirers of PSS Lenin and PSS Stalin, everything is clearly spelled out there.


                I did not just read them, I studied them - in theory, in practice, no one has yet been able to implement them.

                It was not necessary to recruit 19 million, and the party had to accept only the worthy and ideological.


                What did they pick up?

                In the party appeared weak, not seasoned by the struggle people, for the most part, from the former petty-bourgeois class.


                And Lenin from what class? Maybe this is not the case?
              3. Malyuta
                Malyuta 5 July 2020 02: 22 New
                +2
                Quote: cniza
                I didn’t just read them, I studied them

                Therefore, Shiza-Vitya, the first demand will come out of you! you're an anti-adviser!
              4. cniza
                cniza 5 July 2020 11: 41 New
                +2
                Since when are we on you? Knitz is a constructive element of the ship, but who needs a shiz should figure it out and don’t have to write me down as anti-adviser. We answer the questions asked above?
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 4 July 2020 20: 35 New
            0
            Stalin just ruined the Soviets. With him, they degenerated into decorative structures. The transfer from the post of the first secretary of the party’s district committee to the post of chairman of the district executive committee, for example, was considered a demotion. Although this district executive committee did not really submit to the Council that formally elected it, but to the same district party committee.
          3. your1970
            your1970 5 July 2020 18: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            This is a utopia, proven by practice - the first President appeared from the bowels of the CPSU and the Soviets ...

            Quote: Malyuta
            Lenin wrote about this, about degenerates, degenerates and fellow travelers. Stalin cleaned the ranks

            -that is without conditional Stalin-cleaner series - Tips Zero? Otherwise, they will again give birth to somebody "tagged" again ??
            Strongly you raised the role of the Soviets, Th there
        2. ver_
          ver_ 13 July 2020 11: 17 New
          0
          .. * women and vodka are brought to a zugunder * ..
  • Pavel Amarok
    Pavel Amarok 7 July 2020 09: 42 New
    0
    Malyuta, thinking about people's control and the modernized Soviet experience, is sound, I support, and as the figure will be called, the president, secretary general, Tsar’s God or something else is a secondary matter.
  • your1970
    your1970 5 July 2020 18: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: lucul
    Yes, it’s very simple - starting with the lieutenant, they are all checked in the case, distinguished themselves (in the case, not nepotism) lead already further, under supervision, constantly complicating the task for him (increasing in rank), thereby allowing him to develop.
    -Well ... Well, the joke "But the Marshal has his grandchildren!" © USSR
  • Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 4 July 2020 12: 01 New
    +7
    Quote: depressant
    Did not have time. Stalin did not have time. Died ...

    He did not die, but was killed.
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 July 2020 16: 49 New
      +2
      Until now, we will not find out disputes and truths.
      1. ver_
        ver_ 13 July 2020 11: 24 New
        0
        ..ag and doctor were in no hurry to call ...
  • Hagen
    Hagen 4 July 2020 19: 06 New
    +2
    Quote: depressant
    However, it is important - "Camo is coming?" A positive reference point is poorly viewed. Negative so far - distinctly.

    One can ask this one. And how to hear the answer of 140 million people who are not ready to negotiate with each other? The discussion on the site is another example. What is the likelihood that the landmark adopted by you positive, and other members of society will be evaluated in the same way? I think this is an almost insoluble question. Moreover, almost the only unification of the country in some practical direction is the emergence of an active adversary, effectively threatening the life of the state. But, oddly enough, the peaceful period of development only contributes to the growing stratification of society. Bottom line: is peace harmful to us, as a united society? request
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 4 July 2020 20: 28 New
    +1
    What is the myth of strengthening the Soviets? In the last years of Stalin's life, the role of the Soviets, on the contrary, decreased, they became completely decorative organs. Even the dates for convening sessions of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR and the Supreme Soviets of the republics were constantly violated. Instead of at least two sessions in the late 40s and early 50s. carried out alone. Actually, it was a question of transferring part of the function from the Central Committee to the structures of the USSR Council of Ministers, that is, the executive branch. And, most interestingly, mainly at the union level. At the level of republics, territories, regions, this was manifested to a much lesser extent, and at the level of districts, party bodies dominated the state to the maximum extent. Although, it would seem, at the district level, the lowest level, politically harmless, it would be possible to transfer most of the powers to the Soviets.
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  • boni592807
    boni592807 5 July 2020 21: 35 New
    0
    Thank you depressant (Lyudmila Yakovlevna Kuznetsova) Yesterday, 10:26 hi , finally respecting thoughts, NOT Ponte or noise. (Sorry to whom I have not read ...)
    The question was raised VERY important, your example, confirmation to him.
    I would suggest adding to it - the absence of a clear strategy (planning, implementation with control with openings), the situation at best reaches the operational level and tactics (including your example - I respectfully join the statement - 9 years after the Second World War etc.). The question is the receiver. As an example, a country's strategy (without discussing its purpose, etc.) is the current China (country and people), close to the US (country).
    It’s absolutely global in the depth of “work” in time, plan, goals and objectives of the people (YES, rather ...), implementation, this ... The main thing is purposeful, constant, .... if not for the goal, but to the level planning, implementing and fulfilling plans ... respect. Russia and ... so it would be through the centuries. At least - by 2000 exactly, there would have been 600 mln people in the country, as predicted by the Republic of Ingushetia ... And on genetics and cybernetics (corrupt girls ...), the rest would have been like in Soviet science fiction. But, the question of the receiver is also a question of strategy in planning ...
  • ver_
    ver_ 13 July 2020 11: 02 New
    0
    ... he didn’t leave himself - his companions helped him leave ...
  • convoy
    convoy 4 July 2020 11: 49 New
    -2
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Insurgent
    And as I understood it, that "Beleberd", if you did not read

    He looked for familiar letters, and did not find, probably.

    Ha ha ha good exactly Volodya !!!!
  • ssergey1978
    ssergey1978 4 July 2020 09: 28 New
    -7
    Power should not be inherited, it should be selected every 4 years, proven by the science of Political Science if you know this. If the power is not chosen because "to transfer to no one" the result is known even in Russia, the USSR.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 09: 54 New
      -1
      For 30 years, 6 presidents have been replaced in Ukraine. Selected Presidents. How do you like the result?
      1. ssergey1978
        ssergey1978 4 July 2020 10: 06 New
        10
        Are you sure that the result in Ukraine is much worse than the result in Russia?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 4 July 2020 11: 05 New
          +8
          Quote: ssergey1978
          Are you sure that the result in Ukraine is much worse than the result in Russia?

          I don’t know if it’s worse or not, but I see who the real president is in Ukraine, look, or you will deny it.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 4 July 2020 11: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        For 30 years, 6 presidents have been replaced in Ukraine. Selected Presidents. How do you like the result?

        They have the same result, who is the president in the chair of the president.
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 4 July 2020 10: 20 New
      14
      Quote: ssergey1978
      Power should not be inherited, it should be selected once every 4 years, proven by science

      In the USA, from the change of presidents, only the country they are bombing changes. Proven by practice.
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 4 July 2020 10: 29 New
      -3
      you read the text and then start arguing. heredity of power and continuity are generally not the same thing.
    4. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 4 July 2020 11: 47 New
      +6
      Quote: ssergey1978
      Power should not be inherited, it should be selected every 4 years, proven by the science of Political Science if you know this.

      The trick is that under capitalism under any president at the helm, power protects the interests of capital. But the interests of employees of this government in the main do not care.
    5. Alexey Polyakh
      Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 12: 05 New
      0
      4 years
      ------------------------------------
      Even more often!
      and once a year it’s possible (I’m not joking and don’t laugh)
    6. your1970
      your1970 5 July 2020 19: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: ssergey1978
      it should be chosen once every 4 years, proved by science .... If the power is not chosen because "transfer to no one" the result is known even in Russia, the USSR.
      Merkel in the know ????

      Z.Y. And the Queen of England in the know ???
  • flicker
    flicker 4 July 2020 10: 19 New
    -3
    The topic touched upon is interesting, topical, and topical.
    True, not disclosed ...

    And why not disclosed?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 4 July 2020 10: 30 New
      +6
      Quote: flicker
      And why not disclosed?


      Because the author did not make a detailed analysis of the reasons, at least in one of the historical moments he determined, but limited himself to general questions and assumptions:

      The main question remains open: why are really sensible, strong, energetic rulers who are true patriots of their homeland, as a rule, unable to cultivate a worthy change for themselves? This question is extremely complex and multifaceted. Perhaps many scientists (historians, psychologists, sociologists) should be worth breaking their heads over him. Perhaps the problem is that in the shadow of the great they simply cannot grow equal to them. Or, on the contrary, in the fact that the leaders themselves, measuring everything by themselves, make excessively high demands on potential successors, while implicitly not wanting to get their own copy next to them, only in a younger and more active version.
      1. flicker
        flicker 4 July 2020 13: 27 New
        +2
        the author did not do a detailed analysis of the reasons
        Yes, even if he did.
        No analysis (even the most detailed) can solve this problem.
        For the simple reason that the successor must EXACTLY respond to emerging CHALLENGES, based on the available OPPORTUNITIES, and not desire (like, I want it that way).
        Those. to accurately answer, you will quickly appreciate the CHALLENGE that will arise. And only the one who creates and launches this call knows what the call will be. Example: coronavirus.
        And how to prepare the receiver for this?
        Second, to know the available "features."
        "Opportunities" are not only factories, enterprises, the level of development of health care, education, the combat readiness of the army, etc., but the attitude of people (including leaders) to the personality of the successor - and this is where management problems begin. Unfortunately, but the human factor has not been canceled and will not be canceled.

        If the former leader they (mainly managers) were loyal, but the new big question.
        ---
        The incumbent leader cannot convey loyalty, his personal (personal! Tied to his personality!) Credibility (and with it controllability) to his successor, and even in the face of constantly arising, poorly predicted challenges.
        This was not possible to do almost anyone, including Stalin.
        ---
        And the only way out is the stability of the created design, system, i.e. the ability to respond to external and internal challenges.
        The same Stalin did not prepare a successor, but created a system that was broken for nearly 40 years after his death.
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 July 2020 10: 28 New
    11
    Quote: Insurgent
    And as I understood it, that "Beleberd", if you did not read

    I read. Rubbish
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 4 July 2020 11: 50 New
      -1
      That's right. If the author does not understand that the influence of personality is really secondary, then this is a very difficult case.
      1. your1970
        your1970 5 July 2020 19: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        That's right. If the author does not understand what personality influence is really secondary, then this is a very difficult case.
        -that is, if Nikolay 2 would have been in Stalin's place in 1941, he would have won the war ??? well, well ...
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 5 July 2020 22: 02 New
          -1
          And if Stalin ended up in the Roman Empire, would he be able to build a socialist state there? And do not carry any nonsense anymore. Do not depress me with your stupidity.
          1. your1970
            your1970 5 July 2020 22: 34 New
            0
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            And do not carry any nonsense anymore. Do not depress me with your stupidity.
            -It is good if you will be depressed. Less will be the blizzard about the lack of influence of the person ....
    2. Malyuta
      Malyuta 4 July 2020 12: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      I read. Rubbish

      I agree with you, Colleague, but now the essence will be in the comments yes
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 4 July 2020 10: 41 New
    +3
    Once upon a time in youth, they taught such a subject as the Work of the Leader (probably, they teach it today in some other form). And there were wonderful lines: "The real leader, one who can calmly retire from the business, but the business does not suffer, will continue successfully." But for Russia it’s really alarming: you can’t see next to Putin a figure equal to him in the qualities of the head of state. Although it is also the responsibility of the President: to find and nurture a worthy successor.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 4 July 2020 10: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      Once upon a time in youth, they taught such a subject as the Work of the Leader (probably, they teach it today in some other form). And there were wonderful lines: "The real leader, one who can calmly retire from the business, but the business does not suffer, will continue successfully."

      In the "stagnant" Soviet period, the director of the mine, pointing to the head of the mining site (sensible chief yes ) and a carafe of water on the table in the "smart", said:

      “If you remove the boss, then everything will“ spin ”on the site, because the process has been established. with the manual and the carafe will handle yes "...
      1. flicker
        flicker 4 July 2020 12: 42 New
        +1
        “If you remove the boss, then everything will“ spin ”on the site, because the process is established. And with the management, the carafe

        Interestingly, and how long did it keep spinning?
        bully
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 4 July 2020 12: 45 New
          +3
          Quote: flicker
          Interestingly, and how long did it keep spinning?

          Do not forget that Site Manager,there is Deputy,Pom,Site Mechanicand besides them experiencedthrough team leader"...
    2. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 4 July 2020 10: 58 New
      +1
      However, finding a Worthy leader in Russia is VERY difficult. And the history of Russia is a confirmation of this.
      1. Jurkovs
        Jurkovs 4 July 2020 12: 59 New
        +2
        The history of Russia suggests that it cannot find a Worthy leader. They come from nowhere. Who was Putin in '98 or Catherine before the death of Elizabeth? No one would have thought.
        "" Russia is governed directly by the Lord God. Otherwise, it is impossible to imagine how this state still exists. " - Field Marshal Minich.
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 July 2020 16: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: Jurkovs
          The history of Russia suggests that it cannot find a Worthy leader. They come from nowhere. Who Putin was in 98 “Russia is ruled directly by the Lord God. Otherwise, it is impossible to imagine how this state still exists. "" - Field Marshal Minich.


          But he is right, and if the people begin to depart from God, a weak leader is sent ...
          1. gurzuf
            gurzuf 4 July 2020 17: 12 New
            +2
            Is Joseph Vissarionovich a weak leader?
            1. cniza
              cniza 4 July 2020 17: 29 New
              +1
              This is where you read from me? , Stalin even rehabilitated the church ...
            2. Jurkovs
              Jurkovs 5 July 2020 07: 44 New
              -5
              Yes, Stalin was a weak leader. Tough, even cruel, but weak administrator. Let me remind you of the famous American maxim: A top-notch leader always has top-notch assistants. The second-rate manager has third-rate assistants. Therefore, Stalin's entourage was full of the Khrushchevs, Bulganins, Kaganovichs, and there was not one capable of replacing him.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 5 July 2020 08: 02 New
                0
                Quote: Jurkovs
                Yes, Stalin was a weak leader. Tough, even cruel, but weak administrator.

                Golovanov’s memoirs to help.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 5 July 2020 19: 15 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Jurkovs
                  third-grade assistants ..... Kaganovich
                  -weak belay belay belay Kaganovich ?????
                  It’s during the war when a piece of iron was bombed, and German tanks could come out at the station - to reduce the number of accidents almost three times compared with the absolutely peaceful 1938!!!!
                  1938
                  In total this year on the railways of the Soviet Union happened 3118 crash and accident
                  1941
                  In total this year on the railways of the Soviet Union officially happened 1525 crashes and accidents.
                  1942
                  In total this year on the railways of the Soviet Union officially happened 841 crashes and accidents.
                  1943
                  In total this year on the railways of the Soviet Union officially happened 892 crash and accident.
                  1944
                  In total this year on the railways of the Soviet Union officially happened 884 crash and accident.
                  1945
                  In total this year on the railways of the Soviet Union happened 821 crash and accident

                  We should be so weak right now TRETESORTNOGO the organizer !!!!!
      2. L-39NG
        L-39NG 6 July 2020 16: 57 New
        -1
        And you try to change through the elections. One, so after 4 years, change, or after 5 years. During this time, Russia will not collapse. Try, change, and life will be more interesting. And how can they bastards in the west live without receivers? It seems they are not stupid and know how to think with their own heads, and they can’t beat the forehead with the forehead in front of the above. They just consider themselves people, not citizens.
        1. brat07
          brat07 9 July 2020 03: 47 New
          0
          And you try to change through the elections. One, so after 4 years, change, or after 5 years.

          And you try:
          "Russia doesn’t understand,
          No yardstick to measure:
          She has a special feature -
          You can only believe in Russia. "
          Author: F. I. Tyutchev
          By the way, Fedor Tyutchev is not of Russian origin!
          The whole HISTORY of Russia confirms this!
    3. Malyuta
      Malyuta 4 July 2020 13: 12 New
      +6
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      But for Russia it’s really alarming: you can’t see next to Putin a figure equal to him in the qualities of the head of state.

      All these qualities were invented by public relations; this was fully demonstrated by the pandemic. What do we have today? We have a systemic economic crisis that will inevitably lead to a political crisis. We have a completely failed foreign policy, as evidenced by the number of people who came to the parade. We have a failed personnel policy. In general, some "jerks" and "breakthroughs" ....
      1. muham
        muham 4 July 2020 13: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: Malyuta
        We have a systemic economic crisis that will inevitably lead to a political crisis.
        Nope, there are few real violent ones.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 4 July 2020 13: 43 New
          0
          Quote: muham
          Nope, there are few real violent ones.

          There are many violent people, they just don’t know where and how to rage.
  • Vicontas
    Vicontas 4 July 2020 19: 27 New
    +2
    And what is incomprehensible to the author? From the entire upcoming history it is clear that each successor began by trying to shred his predecessor and express his “fairy” to his methods of work! Stalin after the death of Lenin "removed" the closest circle of his associates - Bukharin, Rykov, Zinoviev, Kamenev and many others, sending them to heaven! Khrushchev, after Stalin's death, “rode” along his personality cult and removed many from the close circle of the Generalissimo - starting with Zhukov, who helped him to rise to power ending with the “Malenkov and Molotov group.” Well, at least I did not slap them like Beria, who was frankly afraid of! Brezhnev, who ousted Khrushchev, was the softest of all - he didn’t “spank” anyone, but he cleaned the party apparatus! That’s the whole point of the issue - the current ruler is very concerned that whoever comes after may break his entire construction of power, and make him responsible for all the negativity! And the reasons are sufficient - starting with privatization and ending with the pension reform and other quacks! Because there is NO CONTROL over the rulers in Russia and very often they do what their left heel wished - remember Yeltsin with him - "Take sovereignty how much you swallow!" and the result was Chechnya! Or, in 2005, Putin abolished Soviet GOSTs for foodstuffs in order to satisfy manufacturers and retail chains - and as a result, about 57% of products are now counterfeit on store shelves! And in Russia, mortality exceeds birth rates! Which power, sourly breaking, explains the terrible pits of 90 years!
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 4 July 2020 20: 42 New
      0
      Brezhnev especially did not clean the apparatus. Most of those who held high posts under Khrushchev also held them under Brezhnev. Even many of Khrushchev’s favorites were in their posts until the early to mid-70s. The only one who was demoted immediately after the removal of Khrushchev was the Secretary of the Central Committee Ilyichev, but he did not enter the leading core of the party and state. At the same time, Ilyichyov still remained a fairly influential figure in the field of ideological work. Well, you can still recall Ajubey, who ceased to be an editor of Izvestia.
    2. your1970
      your1970 5 July 2020 19: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: Vicontas
      And in Russia, mortality exceeds birth rates! Which power, sourly breaking, explains the terrible pits of 90 years!
      - how many were in your family? 5-7? 10?

      my classmates for 3 classes of 1987 graduation for 80 people had only 2 families - where there were 4 children and 12 where there were three ... and the rest were -1, rarely two children ...
      and this is not an idea of ​​the authorities - but the reality of the late 80s.
      And we gave birth - 1,2 maximum, 4 no children, 3 only 6
      And this, taking into account the fact that only 56 people remained alive (out of 80)
      The stump is clear - the demographic hole was in the 90s, I took part in it myself
  • fider
    fider 5 July 2020 15: 20 New
    -2
    BELIBERD BELIberd
    Feminine
    Nonsense, nonsense, nonsense.
  • Basil50
    Basil50 4 July 2020 09: 22 New
    -1
    You're right. The author mixed green with warm
    Inheritance of the post and as an application, satiation and impunity was already and not only with us. It does not lead to anything good. Nowhere.
    As an example, take England where all subjects have an opinion and, of course, act only within the framework of the resolved.
    The fact that today in RUSSIA elective power gives hope for the survival of both RUSSIA and RUSSIAN CITIZENS.
    It is a pity that the story is misinterpreted. It is a pity that there is no punishment for frank lies, even it will not work in the face.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 4 July 2020 09: 25 New
      19
      Quote: Vasily50
      today in RUSSIA, the power is elected

      Yeah, stable 76 percent.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 4 July 2020 09: 27 New
      +7
      Quote: Vasily50
      Inheritance of the post and as an application of satiety and impunity already existed. It does not lead to anything good. Nowhere.
      The fact that today in RUSSIA elective power gives hope for the survival of both RUSSIA and RUSSIAN CITIZENS.

      Sorry, but you are confusing two different concepts - INHERITANCE OF AUTHORITY и CONTINUITY OF POWER.

      Agreeeven in writing, the terms look completely different, not to mention their meanings ...
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 4 July 2020 10: 31 New
      -6
      continuity. not heredity. do you read everything across ?!
    4. Basil50
      Basil50 4 July 2020 19: 32 New
      0
      insurgent and 11th
      His claims to the author. He gave an example of inheritance in the discussion of * continuity *.
  • georgiigennadievitch
    georgiigennadievitch 4 July 2020 13: 24 New
    +8
    This, alas, is not rubbish. Here I’m about 30 years older than you. And a lot of things from the Soviet period were deposited in my memory. I remember how in Tashkent, where we lived then, in a kindergarten on a large wall there was a large picture - a portrait of Stalin in wearing a marshal’s uniform against the backdrop of the Red Square. I barely reached head to the soles of his sparkling boots. I remember how on the day of his death all our teachers and we children wept and felt dull and miserable with them, and my aunt’s adult uncles walked along the street with teary faces and mourning bandages on his hands. Once, his father came home in very frustrated feelings and began to discuss with his mother what they were discussing at the party meeting to discuss the personality cult of Stalin. The father was a front-line soldier and, together with order books, kept Stalin's printed thanks for that or any other operation in which he participated. Mother during the war was also an officer, a military translator. For them, the loss of faith and the blackening of the leader was a great loss. In all the troubles of the people of the USSR, it turns out, Stalin was personally guilty. I remember how under Khrushchev in Tashkent (the city of bread) there were interruptions in bread. And the anecdotes of those times, Abram runs down the street. Sarah shouts to him: "where are you going? To India!? Why? Elephants live there. They live long, I want to sell my bonds to them. I won’t live up to their payment. Under Stalin, part of the salary was issued by government bonds for the rise of industry and a destroyed economy. Khrushchev “froze” them for 20 years. And by the same time (by 1980) as he stated Communism was to come to the USSR at the next party congress. The Armenian radio was asked the question: what is corn? They answer, it is a crop. Or rather? Or rather, we don’t know. We only know that if you don’t plant it, then you are imprisoned, if you don’t shoot it, then you are filmed. The newspapers published Khrushchev’s multi-page speeches. The documentary film “Our Nikita Sergeevich” was released and then Nikita Sergeevich The Central Committee plenum was dismissed from all posts and accused of voluntarism. Now it turned out that it was he who led us in the wrong direction. At first, Brezhnev, Podgorny and Kosygin looked very solid and did a lot to raise the country. In 1966, I finished the last class of Khrushchev’s 11 -letes. At that time, a devastating earthquake occurred in Tashkent in April. Literally a few hours later (4 hours later, and the plane flew about as much from Moscow)) Brezhnev and Kosygin drove through the destroyed city in cars and then outlined priority measures. On the 3rd day the trains with equipment, building materials and builders went in a continuous stream. Moreover, I remember, the first from Ukraine-Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov. By October-November, new modern earthquake-resistant residential areas with shops, schools, kindergartens, etc.- "Moscow, Belarus, Ukraine, etc. from every union republic and region of the RSFSR. The people moved from tents and pimped into comfortable new apartments. In the late USSR, this was no longer the case. (Spitak, Chernobyl). Unfortunately, Leonid Ilyich worked out to the point of becoming a hero of numerous anecdotes. Khrushchev "recouped" on the children of Stalin. Andropov on the children and relatives of Brezhnev. With the hunchbacks, they shook everyone, from Lenin to Chernenko. Yeltsin and the company together with him ruined the country and carried out embezzlement and distribution of property and money to those close to them under the guise of privatization. In my opinion, this should not be the case. Despite the change of top officials, continuity and responsibility should be carried out. You can not scour back and forth if you have a huge country behind you. There should be a long-term strategy aimed at developing the country and improving the well-being of the people. It is necessary, despite moving forward, as the famous saying goes, to stand still means to fall behind, which often happened with us. Otherwise, it turns out like in an army joke. They appoint a new commander of the regiment. The old one gives him the position, documents and says, and in the safe I I left you three packages. When it presses and it becomes hard, open it one by one. Time has passed, the new commander sees that things are not going well. His bosses are pressing him. He remembered the packages. He opens the first one. There, everything went to me. Well, come on from high stands, I saw that it’s bad, but so that everything would not start, and so on, etc. But time passes, and things don’t move for the better. It opens the second package, it says “repent” ... Yes, we didn’t watch it, there not done tali, but now the correct conclusions are made and there is confidence that now we will correct the situation, etc. But everything goes wrong and awry. Opens the third package. And it says, prepare three packages.
    1. depressant
      depressant 4 July 2020 14: 57 New
      +1
      Thank you colleague! Very balanced and true comment. Everything is outlined for sure.
      But I think of something else. If Putin decided to leave (there, at the top of the discussion, Dr. Sylvester says: for health reasons), then with a certain degree of imagination, we can assume that he understood that he would not pull a new era. We somehow all together forget that digitalization is in progress, all over the world. And the point is not that we will all be put under the strict control of the authorities - much more stringent than now. But the fact that many jobs will merge into one, the population even with our poor demographics will become redundant, enormous unemployment is coming, the social situation will become hot - how can this be dealt with? We can assume that Putin is not ready for this and does not want to become a whipping boy in an environment of continuous government failures. The old era is leaving forever. I won’t be surprised if Putin leaves for her in the fall.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 4 July 2020 15: 57 New
        +3
        Quote: depressant
        The old era is leaving forever. I won’t be surprised if Putin leaves for her in the fall.

        This friend of friends cannot leave, because power is the only guarantee of his physical safety, as well as the safety of his friends, as well as the preservation of the myriad riches of the Rothenbergs, Timchens, Potanins, Michelsons raldughins and there are no numbers for them.
        Those material wealths that Hitler Germany plundered are pathetic tears compared to the fact that they took the Russian lawlessness over the years of Putinism. In principle, this money can be purchased at a reasonable price in several countries in Central South America or Africa. The beneficiaries of the collapse and The 30-year raid of the USSR’s heritage can quite easily leave our borders, their mission is accomplished, leaving the performers here to be torn to pieces by the people.
        Threat. All the same, I advise everyone to read the "Russian recycling plan" and compare with what is happening and no conspiracy theories. hi
    2. Ajevgenij
      Ajevgenij 4 July 2020 18: 06 New
      0
      A very interesting comment, it is on such comments that I try to imagine life then. thank
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 14: 08 New
    +3
    Quote: ssergey1978
    I didn’t even read a billiarda.

    Indeed, why read that ?! belay Here, after all, THINKING is necessary - and not standardly dividing the world into "black and white" lol
    1. ssergey1978
      ssergey1978 4 July 2020 14: 32 New
      -1
      It’s not necessary to think about what is written here. This is nonsense.
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 14: 37 New
        +4
        Quote: ssergey1978
        It’s not necessary to think about what is written here. This is nonsense.

        I’m sure to upset you - but you need to think even over nonsense - that’s how a person differs from the rest of the living world that he knows how to think bully
        1. ssergey1978
          ssergey1978 4 July 2020 14: 47 New
          -2
          I will also upset you: thinking about nonsense is the lot of a monkey, Animals, as it’s not strange for you, also know how to think. A person, unlike a monkey, can distinguish nonsense from a worthwhile thought. So it didn’t work for you to set me up.
          1. Virus-free crown
            Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 14: 53 New
            +5
            Quote: ssergey1978
            I will also upset you: thinking about nonsense is the lot of a monkey, Animals, as it’s not strange for you, also know how to think. A person, unlike a monkey, can distinguish nonsense from a worthwhile thought. So it didn’t work for you to set me up.

            I really feel sorry for you then !!! drinks
            1. ssergey1978
              ssergey1978 4 July 2020 15: 03 New
              -2
              A strange conclusion, why? Because I do not want to discuss the heresy that not the smartest man wrote?
              1. Virus-free crown
                Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 15: 31 New
                +2
                I am embarrassed to ask ... do you have a certificate in your hands with signatures and seals stating that the author of the article is dumber than you? ... repeat
                1. ssergey1978
                  ssergey1978 4 July 2020 16: 22 New
                  -2
                  Do not be shy. The author doesn’t need a certificate stupid than the main part of the world's population, this is a fact.
  • snucerist
    snucerist 4 July 2020 14: 33 New
    +1
    The meaning of the whole article can be expressed in one phrase - the succession to the throne must be introduced in Russia. And all her troubles will end at once.
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 July 2020 16: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: snucerist
      The meaning of the whole article can be expressed in one phrase - the succession to the throne must be introduced in Russia. And all her troubles will end at once.


      And when the kings did not it? but the problems are the same ...
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  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 4 July 2020 09: 24 New
    -3
    About Khrushchev correctly noticed. Immediately confirmed all obligations to Lena Goldfilds, bowed, fie parade the warship of the Queen (swore swear) stopped the construction of the transpolar highway and the tunnel to Sakhalin. Banned artels.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 4 July 2020 09: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Banned artels.

      My paternal grandfather then spat on everything, and went to his pants in the bushes with a rifle to sit out, to watch the flowers.
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 4 July 2020 09: 32 New
        -1
        He laid a bomb under consumer goods, and then a shortage, a loss of quality and "give jeans, down with the USSR ..."
        1. depressant
          depressant 4 July 2020 11: 46 New
          +4
          A strikingly concise and accurate description of the historical process. I like it.
          1. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 4 July 2020 12: 36 New
            -3
            Thank you, Lyudmila. hi
          2. Virus-free crown
            Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 14: 09 New
            +3
            Quote: depressant
            A strikingly concise and accurate description of the historical process. I like it.

            Similarly !!! hi love
    2. Motorist
      Motorist 4 July 2020 19: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: Tank jacket
      reaffirmed all obligations to Lena Goldfilds

      Jacket, who needs to disperse this misinformation ?! Read the agreement on the Foreign Ministry website (the second time today I put this link!):
      https://www.mid.ru/foreign_policy/international_contracts/2_contract/-/storage-viewer/bilateral/page-554/52010
  • sleeve
    sleeve 4 July 2020 09: 26 New
    -5
    N-yes ... Such a concept is present. Unfortunately, the conservative inertia inherent in the empire, destroyed in 1917 and not fully restored in the USSR, is now not characteristic of us at all. Any change will lead to "reformatting" as a result, again, "90th." It is not in vain that Ukraine is "shown" to us, the second time managing to enter the same river. Only "rukh" has changed to the national corps (Ozvr).
  • About 2
    About 2 4 July 2020 09: 28 New
    +2
    Thanks to the author, it became clear why the guarantor clutched the throne with all his teeth and nails. The poor fellow did not raise a worthy change, that's the trouble.
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 14: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Approximately 2
      Thanks to the author, it became clear why the guarantor clutched the throne with all his teeth and nails. The poor fellow did not raise a worthy change, that's the trouble.

      Totally agree with you!!! hi
  • tatra
    tatra 4 July 2020 09: 30 New
    +9
    With no democracy in the history of our country were Peter the Great, Catherine the Great, the great creators of the best for the country and most of the people of the State of Lenin and Stalin. And with democracy in the territory of the USSR since 1991, power in the territory of the former USSR is only Gray, quickly forgotten or completely hated by the people.
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 4 July 2020 10: 22 New
      -7
      And under socialism there were Trotsky, Khrushchev, Gorbachev.
      1. tatra
        tatra 4 July 2020 10: 39 New
        +6
        Well, why did you write this? I wrote that in the power of the RI-RSFSR -SSSR there were great leaders of the State, and after the destruction of the USSR in the USSR, there were NO such authorities.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 4 July 2020 11: 02 New
          -8
          and the country is only 30 years old. how many years were not great before Stalin and how many after. they do not appear so often.
          1. tatra
            tatra 4 July 2020 11: 23 New
            +6
            Not a country, but 15 states on the territory of the former USSR, headed by more people than there were leaders of the Russian Empire - RSFSR - USSR combined. And just like in the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR, there were great composers, poets, writers, singers, actors, military commanders, and there are none of them in the "independence" in the territory of the former USSR.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 4 July 2020 11: 25 New
              -5
              will be more. history always goes in a circle.
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 4 July 2020 12: 16 New
                0
                You have reactionaries in your head, no doubt. But in real life, it moves in a spiral.
        2. Dart2027
          Dart2027 4 July 2020 13: 00 New
          +4
          Quote: tatra
          Well, why did you write this?

          To complete the picture.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 4 July 2020 09: 32 New
    12
    Lack of continuity, like a curse of Russian power

    Even Mikhail Evgrafovich wrote:
    The strictness of Russian laws is mitigated by the non-binding nature of their implementation.

    And in our country this phenomenon is compounded by the difference in laws for ordinary citizens and for the rich.
    EVERYTHING!!!
    The succession of the Russian government lies in “cooling the past history” and the eternal search for its own path.
    You cannot live in the world community according to your own special laws. The positive historical experience of once powerful states cannot be discarded. It is necessary to analyze and correct the mistakes that led the empire to collapse.
    And we still confuse the servants:
    Many tend to confuse two concepts: “Fatherland” and “Your Excellency”.

    That is why all the time, Russian idlers are rushing around from side to side:
    I wanted something: either the constitution, or the stellar sturgeon with horseradish, or to take and to rip someone off. To get a good jackpot - and to the side. And then, "looking at the time", either bite stew with horseradish, or dream about the constitution. Ah, take her dust, this constitution! No matter how you turn around it, it is not given as a treasure in your hands! It seems that it’s easier to eat a million of living stellate sturgeon than to get this thing! And what kind of constitution is this, and why did I suddenly want it - right, and I don’t know. Will there be a treasurer under this constitution?

    hi
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 4 July 2020 09: 52 New
      +8
      Quote: ROSS 42
      More Mikhail Evgrafovich wrote

      I never thought that I would reread it in adulthood.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 4 July 2020 20: 44 New
        0
        It is only in adulthood and must be read.
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 4 July 2020 10: 22 New
      -3
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Many tend to confuse two concepts: “Fatherland” and “Your Excellency”.

      And how can one be without the other?
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 4 July 2020 10: 56 New
        10
        Quote: Dart2027
        And how can one be without the other?

        How can it be? Are you asking me?
        Some lay their lives for the Fatherland without sparing their belly, while others lick all the intimate places of your excellency in the hope of a warm and satisfying place at the feeding trough ...
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 4 July 2020 13: 01 New
          -1
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Some lay their lives for

          Again, many beautiful words. How can there be a Fatherland without a State?
          1. Virus-free crown
            Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 14: 13 New
            +4
            Fatherland - separately, Your Excellency - separately - it's like how to separate cutlets from flies good
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 4 July 2020 14: 20 New
              0
              Quote: Crown without virus
              Fatherland - separately, Your Excellency - separately

              Well, practically how?
              1. Virus-free crown
                Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 14: 26 New
                +5
                Quote: Dart2027
                Quote: Crown without virus
                Fatherland - separately, Your Excellency - separately

                Well, practically how?

                Practically ... purely for example hi By law - the President of the Russian Federation fulfills the WILL of the people of the Russian Federation, and NOT the people who fulfill the will of the President of the Russian Federation)))
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 4 July 2020 14: 56 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Crown without virus
                  Practically ... purely for example

                  Practically ... From the harsh prose of life ... There is never and never has been a single state where it would be different.
                  1. Virus-free crown
                    Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 15: 28 New
                    +5
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Quote: Crown without virus
                    Practically ... purely for example

                    Practically ... From the harsh prose of life ... There is never and never has been a single state where it would be different.

                    And according to the Constitution, it’s like that. wassat Or have you thoughtlessly voted in favor of the amendment? repeat
                    1. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 4 July 2020 16: 49 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Crown without virus
                      And according to the Constitution, it’s like that.

                      Quote: Dart2027
                      From the harsh prose of life ...No and there has never been a single state where it would be different.
                      and this is good, because the real power of the people will not end in anything good.
                      1. Virus-free crown
                        Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 16: 56 New
                        +1
                        Article 3 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation

                        1. The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.

                        Bring to become the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, which you violated, claiming the opposite? repeat
                      2. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 4 July 2020 16: 59 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Crown without virus
                        Bring to become the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, which you violated, claiming the opposite?

                        AND? Again
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        There is never and never was a single state where it would be different
                        Such is life.
  • U-58
    U-58 4 July 2020 09: 37 New
    +3
    Everything is beautiful and, it should be noted, the author wrote correctly.
    That's just him ... uh-uh, the projection of historical examples for today looks very, very timid.
    But here it is necessary to look from the opposite side. Not from the point of view of the “Wishlist” of the first person, be he even three times a progressive figure, but from the point of view of his economy — the people, the country.
    Our time is good because we have not been banned (for now))) from discussing the topic: who will come later.
    We do not have (or yet) a succession to the throne.
    And here a certain “cognitive dissonance” arises.
    The country is bent, despite the victorious reports of that very prestigious person, the people are grumbling, but his voice, expressed in the results of the voting, unequivocally speaks of the opposite, universal happiness (or to correct the illiterate).
    And since we do not have the "old regime" and the murmuring people will not be called rebels (again, for now), what will result in the confrontation of two paradigms - the steady impoverishment and discontent of the people with life and the deeds of the main and unrestrained desire of the "collective farm head" to leave everything as it is - dividends from imaginary prosperity get the khan and his court retinue?
  • NordUral
    NordUral 4 July 2020 09: 37 New
    +9
    So, the power was tired, drained to the limit, and a person is happy to ready to shift it onto someone else's shoulders. However, a problem arises: in order to not be in the role of the one who betrayed his own business at the end of his life devoted to the country’s arrangement, he must be transferred to someone!

    But the question is: to whom? For a better understanding, each of us should perhaps imagine ourselves in the role of the owner of a beautiful and solid house, surrounded by a luxurious well-kept garden. You built this house from the foundation: brick by brick, by log. And, perhaps, they raised it from the ruins left after the previous grief-owners. You cultivated the garden, sparing no effort and time.

    And where did you see, the author, a well-equipped and deified country? And why did you decide that there was no one to replace this wonderful host?
  • bar
    bar 4 July 2020 09: 59 New
    -2
    The problem is important, and raised on time and in the right way. "Only a leader should change a leader." Only a solution we are unlikely to come up with sad
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 4 July 2020 11: 15 New
      +3
      In fact, the idea is more important, and there will always be a leader!
      The susceptibility of the idea ensures continuity.
      In the case of Putin, for example, I do not understand the dominant that he is guided by. Zyuganov clearly indicates the position, but Putin swims from liberalism to a social state, not showing how they can be combined.
      1. bar
        bar 4 July 2020 11: 33 New
        -5
        In fact, the idea is more important, and there will always be a leader!

        Well, yes, well, yes, we have no irreplaceable ones))
        But no one can name anything in any way. Do you have any options?
        Well, about the important idea is also a question. It seems to me that ideas are needed in case of revolutions and coups. And usually this idea is “VALUE!”. And for ordinary life, a systematic and routine work is needed. And it’s stupid to deny that it’s still underway.

        Zyuganov clearly indicates the position, but Putin swims from liberalism to a social state,

        Rather, it Zyuganov swims from pensioner communism with the dictatorship of the proletariat to the support of the young freaks of Navalny. But Putin is engaged in business, the state is building.
        1. Campanella
          Campanella 4 July 2020 21: 01 New
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          It’s hard for me to watch, you just work routine ... Then rest routine ....

          According to Zyuganov, you are talking nonsense, I have not seen a more stable politician in modern Russia. Putin has repeatedly crossed out previously promised and said, and this does not bother you, you are hypocrisy!
          As for the leader, I would support the creation of Zyuganov.
          And so Uncle Vova drowned the whole clearing ... nothing good can grow on it, and then he himself complains about a small bench, just a miracle.
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 4 July 2020 12: 18 New
        +2
        Quote: Campanella
        Zyuganov clearly indicates the position

        Pocket oppositionist pseudo-communist on salary.
        1. Campanella
          Campanella 4 July 2020 21: 02 New
          -1
          (((((I see you are entering the Kremlin corridors?
        2. Campanella
          Campanella 5 July 2020 10: 15 New
          -1
          And for you, is a communist an implacable revolutionary fighter?
          Zyuganov may not be a fiery passionary, but he never retreated from his views.
          And this is one worthy of respect.
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 5 July 2020 15: 15 New
            -1
            Quote: Campanella
            never retreated from his views.

            Opportunist and demagogue? I agree.
      3. Jurkovs
        Jurkovs 4 July 2020 13: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: Campanella
        In fact, the idea is more important, and there will always be a leader!

        This is not about Russia. First we have a leader, and then he formulates an idea for us (or for himself).
        1. Virus-free crown
          Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 14: 18 New
          +5
          Quote: Jurkovs
          Quote: Campanella
          In fact, the idea is more important, and there will always be a leader!

          This is not about Russia. First we have a leader, and then he formulates an idea for us (or for himself).

          I will answer you about the history of the Great October Socialist Revolution hi
          First there was the Idea (even from the Socialist Revolutionaries) - "Factories - to the workers, land - to the peasants" - and only then Lenin put it into practice !!! tongue
        2. Campanella
          Campanella 4 July 2020 21: 03 New
          -1
          Why so? It was precisely the idea that led Lenin.
      4. New
        New Year day 4 July 2020 15: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Campanella
        In fact, the idea is more important, and there will always be a leader!

        Leader quality does not bother? Yeltsin appeared Putin, but will Putin have a new Putin? Not! Since both were selected according to completely different criteria. Yeltsin kept the strong around him, and Putin the weak. So where will Putin find a strong successor? By shuffling the old deck you can see there is no stock
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 July 2020 16: 34 New
          +3
          Call the strengths of Yeltsin that something was not very observed, except for the old guard with whom he fought.
    2. cniza
      cniza 4 July 2020 16: 35 New
      0
      Quote: bar
      The problem is important, and raised on time and in the right way. "Only a leader should change a leader." Only a solution we are unlikely to come up with sad


      Good formula, but not very good in practice.
  • Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 4 July 2020 10: 02 New
    +2
    Quote: ssergey1978
    it should be selected every 4 years, proven by the science of Political Science if you know this.


    No, not proven. Even more, such a formulation of the question is delusional. A simple example you urgently need to do an appendicitis cutting operation. Will you choose a cutter at a general meeting? Or a flight pilot, too, will you choose? And TAM needs professionalism of a completely different level, for the measure of responsibility is different.

    There must be a different selection paradigm. And yes it is a problem.
    1. ssergey1978
      ssergey1978 4 July 2020 14: 50 New
      0
      words no snot. You made my day with your paradigm. And who is the appendix?
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 4 July 2020 15: 39 New
        -1
        You certainly ...

        In essence, you have nothing to say ...
        1. ssergey1978
          ssergey1978 4 July 2020 16: 25 New
          0
          and again by. In essence, the progressive humanity has given an answer. Power must be chosen is a fact. But this is not the way of the Slavic peoples. We cut out the appendix.
  • BAI
    BAI 4 July 2020 10: 07 New
    +6
    are unable to nurture a worthy shift for themselves?

    Because when they are strong, they destroy all competitors. And when they get weak - it's too late.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 4 July 2020 10: 10 New
    +6
    Nobody teaches history, history does not teach anything ..... And to draw conclusions, there should be intelligence ... And power, it beckons, hurts, burns and fogs and intoxicates ... throws into trembling ...
  • Campanella
    Campanella 4 July 2020 10: 30 New
    0
    Good thoughts.
    And the last two conclusions are correct.
    The transfer of power is actually not only our Russian scourge. This is a problem for all nations.
    In fact, everything is as if simple - you need to follow the canons developed
    centuries, but in fact a person is weak and unstable because of such fluctuations.
    My opinion is to transfer control to a machine or algorithm, it can be artificial intelligence.
    After all, in the end we live by the clock. That is, the system must have a reference generator.
    And on the other hand, the inconstancy of nature creates all kinds of challenges and it turns out that a rigid system will not be able to properly respond to them.
    The conclusion from here is to maximize the transfer of power to perfection, using several reference points tied to the system at the same time.
    Well, generally, somehow it turns out in my opinion.
    If the world is presented as a Brownian movement, then nothing needs to be done! Anarchy is the mother of order!
    So this is more a worldview choice, the decision will depend on the point of view.
    1. Cartalon
      Cartalon 4 July 2020 11: 00 New
      +2
      And then the AI ​​decides that it is necessary to kill all people, because of the lack of profitability of the content thereof.
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 4 July 2020 11: 11 New
        0
        Anything can be ...
        History has many examples of how people can make such decisions.
        And there are many examples of how madmen rule the state for many years. So there is everything in life, and if life inexorably ends with death, is it worth it “scrupulously” to treat it, especially few people can boast that they took full advantage of the chance that life gives it?
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 4 July 2020 11: 16 New
    +1
    But the question is: to whom? For a better understanding, each of us should perhaps imagine ourselves as the owner of a beautiful and solid house, surrounded by a luxurious well-kept garden. You built this house from the foundation: brick by brick, by log ....

    A clear and simple allegory, it is only a pity that it has nothing to do with reality.
    In this case, as a rule, some commonplace reasons are called, such as pathological love of power, desire to always enjoy one's own status, etc.

    That is, unfortunately, and not of any "houses and gardens well-groomed" ...
  • certero
    certero 4 July 2020 11: 17 New
    +3
    If there are no those who can lead the country after, then the ruler rudely ruled.
    1. depressant
      depressant 4 July 2020 15: 37 New
      +2
      By the way, very aptly, colleague!
    2. Campanella
      Campanella 4 July 2020 21: 15 New
      0
      I think the task of any ruler is to remove competitors.
  • alone
    alone 4 July 2020 11: 34 New
    +7
    The current leaders in leadership are guided by one rule ... There shouldn’t be initiative, thinking and competent people around it .. It’s easier to manage it + peculiar advertising of their own .. "Nobody except me!" .. This is where the root of what ordinary citizens begin cannot find the second to replace the first.
    1. Campanella
      Campanella 4 July 2020 21: 18 New
      0
      These are not current, if I remember correctly in Murphy’s laws this has long been described. This is how a person works.
      Therefore, they create different state institutions in order to minimize the consequences of the voluntarism of individuals
  • lot
    lot 4 July 2020 11: 42 New
    +5
    Experience shows that the irremovability of power ends with a revolution, as a result due to the accumulation of contradictions. As if the experience of bourgeois revolutions, this testifies, as well as there hordes, ilkhanov, Atilla, feuds and others.
    But there are places on the planet where even dancing on a rake does not teach anything.
  • convoy
    convoy 4 July 2020 11: 44 New
    -10
    I read the comments and somehow it became sad .. The people do not know the history of Russia and its mentality!
    Russia is not Europe (vast territories and many nationalities), what do you want ..? And who can you offer ..?

    Offer an alternative .. I'm waiting! hi
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 14: 24 New
      +9
      I offer an alternative)))
      Starting today, Putin BEGINS to carry out all those amendments that are adopted to the Constitution - you will be surprised that there will be a mass of candidates for the next presidential election wassat
      All you need is to comply with the Basic Law, let people show themselves, fight corruption, lawlessness, honest courts, freedom of speech and there will be candidates for successors good
    2. cniza
      cniza 4 July 2020 16: 30 New
      0
      Vitaly, after these reigns, they did not leave a successor, and the author writes about this, they are well done without question, but after, they are not eternal ...
      1. convoy
        convoy 5 July 2020 06: 51 New
        -3
        Quote: cniza
        Vitaly, after these reigns, they did not leave a successor, and the author writes about this, they are well done without question, but after, they are not eternal ...

        But you are right .. Then the unrest began in Russia.
    3. Campanella
      Campanella 4 July 2020 21: 12 New
      0
      I read your comment and it also became sad ...
      Historians as well as people very ambiguously evaluate the rule of the personalities you have indicated.
      Too general and vague approach, I think those who lived during the reign of the board would not agree with you.
      1. savage1976
        savage1976 5 July 2020 06: 47 New
        0
        So this is historical reality. In life, the authorities always find fault, and then, after a generation, they tell how great she was and how many deeds she did.
        1. Campanella
          Campanella 5 July 2020 10: 38 New
          0
          Here Zhukov is blamed for numerous victims, the same Astafyev, maybe a historically different commander could win the war with small victims, but he was not in the cage and this is another story
          How many people were put on the altar of development of Russia and were these victims justified?
          This question has no answer; history has no subjunctive mood.
          Reality is development for development .. does it make sense?
          We hold on to the state, invest in it with our lives for the sake of a mythical future, and when this future comes, it turns out that the life of an individual is worth nothing.
          The meaning of many generations of victims? Our fathers died for the USSR, and the children quietly leaked it?
          Is it worth it to rest if the society lives according to the laws of philistinism and the Danks are paving the way for these philistines in the future at the cost of their lives.
          Here the next ruler says that we are together .. we will build, we will go .., but in fact personal gain determines everything!
          And if something doesn’t suit the person personally, he immediately begins to destroy what was built before him.
    4. alone
      alone 4 July 2020 22: 13 New
      +1
      Found someone with whom to compare .. negative
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 4 July 2020 11: 50 New
    0
    Bullshit question.
    "unable to bring up a worthy change for themselves" - a typical curse of kings, versed in a bunch of historical works, dissertations, etc.

    As I recall, the last / first president of Czechoslovakia / Czech Republic, Václav Gável seems to have had a dissertation that also touched on this topic ....

    It is a pity that apparently the author is not in the know.
  • Alexey Polyakh
    Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 11: 59 New
    0
    DESIRING (and prescribed) - Land, 20 acres (2000 sq.m. (two thousand square meters)) - to each adult Citizen. Muscovite - in MOSCOW. A resident of St. Petersburg - in PETERSBURG. Etc. Land, in the amount of 1 (one) piece, with the possibility of exchange for other cities. For the construction of a house and the arrangement of gardening ... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications ....
  • Avior
    Avior 4 July 2020 12: 05 New
    +2
    The first part of the article about a special kind of slaves in galleys, which you just can’t tear off the oars smile
    But to the question
    . the main question: why are really sensible, strong, energetic rulers who are true patriots of their homeland, as a rule, unable to nurture a worthy change for themselves?

    The answer is very simple.
    A ruler seized in power will never allow a worthy replacement to grow.
    He automatically perceives any worthy as a threat to his power.
    And the more power he has, the more opportunities he has to visit a person whom he perceives as a threat to his personal power.
    The result is a hundred and fifty million, and not one worthy.
    Well, the ruler was not lucky with this people, unable to raise a worthy ruler, even though the Vikings write out again.
    And that is characteristic, the current ruler is not eternal, anyway there will be another.
    But while he sits below the grass, quieter than water, so as not to fall into the eyes of the present.
    Can a ruler prepare for himself a succession?
    Maybe, of course, if he is weak and willing to leave voluntarily.
    But in this case, another problem, but what kind of successor should you look for? Yes, first of all, one who does not offend a retiree and his family. His shirt is closer to the body.
    And if the ruler is not going to leave voluntarily, then his successor is like a bone and a throat.
    If you prepare a successor, but you don’t leave on time yourself, it’s so little that the ready-made successor thinks.
    And if the ruler is not going to leave until his death, it will be like in a joke about how the mother-in-law demanded from the son-in-law not to be buried near the Kremlin wall, - the son-in-law in reply, the funeral tomorrow at ten.
    1. Alexey Polyakh
      Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 12: 13 New
      +2
      All right!
      NOT PEOPLE rule, but - RULES! ... RULES! ... RULES! ... RULES! ... RULES! ... RULES! ... RULES! ... RULES! ... RULES! .. . RULES! ... RULES! ... RULES! ...
      (screaming!)
      What are the RULES today? for a citizen, age 20? whose Father works as a driver, and Mother as a seller in Magnit (Pyaterochka) ??? (this is still work)
  • demo
    demo 4 July 2020 12: 37 New
    +5
    For a strong man with certain convictions, aspirations, his own vision of the path of the state entrusted to him (whether by fate, dynastic law, people), the government and the inextricably linked enormous, unrepresentable responsibility for many over time inevitably turn from a feasible burden into a burden.

    Very often, and here it is clearly visible, in the question posed there are almost 50% of the answer to this question.
    Although this is generally not a question, but a rhetorical exclamation.
    Let's modify it a bit.
    "For every weak state that does not have certain convictions, aspirations, its own vision of the path given to it (the thieves' clique), power and an inextricably linked enormous responsibility that is not imaginable for many will inevitably turn over time from a feasible burden into an inexhaustible source of enrichment for those close to us.
    That's better?
    Perhaps this will be more correct.
    1. depressant
      depressant 4 July 2020 15: 46 New
      0
      In fact, it was, demo. In the dry residue.
  • Unknown
    Unknown 4 July 2020 12: 56 New
    +3
    what lack of continuity, says the author? at the end of 1999, Yeltsin on television, presented his receiver, which throughout the country, said that the course in the country would not change, and of course, too. and so far this course has not changed, not in politics, not in economics.
  • kig
    kig 4 July 2020 13: 06 New
    -1
    But how do other countries cope? Or is the successor problem confronted only by the Bolsheviks and their heirs? Following the logic of the author, the question is exactly that.
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 July 2020 16: 26 New
      +1
      Did you read the article or only about the Bolsheviks?
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 4 July 2020 16: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: kig
      But how do other countries cope?

      And there not those who choose rule, but those who appoint who to choose from. There is no democracy in the world, and never will be.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 4 July 2020 13: 08 New
    +1
    Oddly enough, the only normally working mechanism was until 1917. And then there are also problems with the transfer of power.
    1. Avior
      Avior 4 July 2020 15: 45 New
      +1
      This mechanism brought to power a clearly inappropriate person - Nicholas 2.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 4 July 2020 16: 46 New
        0
        This is so .... but there were some understandable mechanisms for changing the leader.
  • gridasov
    gridasov 4 July 2020 13: 14 New
    -3
    The voiced question is extremely important for the state and it is not for common people who do not understand the processes of state development to discuss these issues. Therefore, it was not without reason that the status of the authority of the reigning persons was eternally determined. It was a necessity that is relevant now. Continuity is primarily the responsibility vested in the right of successors to inherit the ideology of the development of society. And in general, since when elitism and power were available to a simple mass of people. Therefore, Putin will in no way begin to leave the government so that it is not accepted by a person from the family. In general, the ability to perceive the world as real is far from being for many.
    1. Alexey Polyakh
      Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 13: 52 New
      +2
      No "state development" - DOESN'T EXIST. This is an elephant swollen from a fly.
      The "state" itself is a consequence of the DIVISION OF LABOR OF THE VALLEY.
      And about the "ability to perceive the world real" - commoners see more
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 4 July 2020 14: 52 New
        +3
        That's right! For the government, it is not the state that is important, but it is important that the music play and not stop. The elites of any country care about the inviolability of their patrimony and the herd of slaves. And in what form - this distinguishes the form of socialism, capitalism or other names, but with the same essence.
        1. Alexey Polyakh
          Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 14: 55 New
          +1
          Is it time to get rid of the "herd of slaves." (I myself am one of them, and would not want to be in the "elite")
          1. gridasov
            gridasov 4 July 2020 14: 59 New
            +1
            And I am my own elite! No wonder they say that only under the guise of foolishness and dementia can you multiply happily. I learned this from the Union. In general, I feel happy when I travel by tram, but I can also take a taxi. i.e. when there is a choice. Personal choice
            1. Alexey Polyakh
              Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 15: 02 New
              +1
              I'm moving on a scooter. 300km per month. For the city, with a population of up to 1 million, it replaces public transport, even in winter. distance 5 km 600 m - in 23 minutes.
              1. gridasov
                gridasov 4 July 2020 15: 13 New
                0
                ABOUT! And I ride
                on a scooter! This is freedom! And I am glad for the Brothers in Faith that, after all, Russia is one of not many countries where from the bottom you can rise to the top. But still, the elite must be educated!
                1. Alexey Polyakh
                  Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 15: 21 New
                  0
                  WHO TO ELECT ELITE ??? !!!
                  1. gridasov
                    gridasov 4 July 2020 15: 40 New
                    0
                    You surprise me! Elite is all those who have access to the feeder and do not know how to do anything else. Now, if they were counts, but princes, then the attitude would be different - with an understanding of merit.
                    1. Alexey Polyakh
                      Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 15: 54 New
                      +2
                      The elite - let the MASS themselves choose (according to Lenin). not a bunch of careerists and opportunists. Then everything will be closer to reality.
                      1. gridasov
                        gridasov 4 July 2020 16: 12 New
                        +1
                        In the aspect of this commentary, I think that V.I. Lenin just gave the opportunity to familiarize the current leaders of the state with the basics of social science and public administration as a science. But they don’t want to study! A satisfying life relaxes and makes you lazy!
                      2. Alexey Polyakh
                        Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 16: 15 New
                        0
                        DESIRING (and prescribed) - Land, 20 acres (2000 sq.m. (two thousand square meters)) - to each adult Citizen. Muscovite - in MOSCOW. A resident of St. Petersburg - in PETERSBURG. Etc. Land, in the amount of 1 (one) piece, with the possibility of exchange for other cities. For the construction of a house and the arrangement of gardening ... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications ....
                        For most, work will be a side job. and it’s not so bad. And prices will not have much impact.
  • Alexey Polyakh
    Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 13: 58 New
    +5
    not common people who do not understand the processes of development of the state to discuss these topics.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Still how to reason! if the "state" translates all arrows into commoners.
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 4 July 2020 14: 54 New
      +1
      Of course, no one forbids, but on the one hand, from the side of commoners it is in vain to spend time on this, and on the other hand, to elites - the more they say the more clearly the enemy of the foundations is visible.
      1. Alexey Polyakh
        Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 15: 15 New
        +1
        not so in vain. and the foundations have already been destroyed and degraded ... The so-called "power" has been fenced off from citizens with the help of the employer. How many passers-by, in any city, will tell you the surname, name and patronymic of their tax inspector ??? or the address of the Tax Inspectorate ??? this means that citizens do not pay taxes. And they cannot present receipts (checks) .... Then what claims can they bring to “authorities” (if they do not pay taxes)?
      2. Alexey Polyakh
        Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 15: 18 New
        +1
        By the way, the collapse of any country can be considered as a SEAL OF SHIP COMPARTMENTS.
        So that I could walk to the Base and carry out repairs.
        1. gridasov
          gridasov 4 July 2020 15: 30 New
          +1
          And where did you get the idea that the country is falling apart? I would say there is a diversification of priorities and values. The country and government are actively responding to changes in the world order. The only thing I don’t like about Volodya is that it is too soft. I would nevertheless deprive the enemies of vitality-delicately and secretly. And so that no one understood, but felt that it was better not to pull the beast by the mustache
          1. Alexey Polyakh
            Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 15: 42 New
            +1
            1. response to changes in the world order, so far, is expressed in rising prices for what is consumed.
            2. The conflict is that those who decided to really work (and keep the habit) were in the enemies, and did not rush into the mythical “work”, such as propaganda, or manipulating using the administrative resource.


            Ilyushin, an aircraft designer, after seven years of study at the then school, in 1909, went to work as a digger and laborer. Here they are STANDINGS ... The then "elite" was indifferent.
            1. gridasov
              gridasov 4 July 2020 16: 05 New
              0
              I see that in Russia there is just a very large shortage of personnel potential. This is the lack of specialists who do not foresee the growth of world prices and the possibility of stabilization and development of the economy within the country. Moreover, they do not know the methods of modeling the mechanisms of maintaining balance. But this is not our concern, ordinary people.
          2. Campanella
            Campanella 4 July 2020 21: 28 New
            +1
            Volodya, soft? I would say softly spreads, but hard to sleep.
            Potanin for his business management, it's time to put in jail! Fucked the north billionaire Horseradish!
            Putin does not surrender and does not plant ...
  • Alexey Polyakh
    Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 14: 00 New
    +3
    "since when did elitism and power have been accessible to a simple mass of people"
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    You can look for a black cat in a dark room ...
    Or the wind in the field ...
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 4 July 2020 14: 55 New
      0
      The wealth of the country in which they invested sweat and blood and conscience were never and will never be accessible to ordinary people.
      1. Alexey Polyakh
        Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 14: 58 New
        +2
        " Never say never"
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 14: 57 New
    0
    Quote: gridasov
    The voiced question is extremely important for the state and it is not for common people who do not understand the processes of state development to discuss these issues. Therefore, it was not without reason that the status of the authority of the reigning persons was eternally determined. It was a necessity that is relevant now. Continuity is primarily the responsibility vested in the right of successors to inherit the ideology of the development of society. And in general, since when elitism and power were available to a simple mass of people. Therefore, Putin will in no way begin to leave the government so that it is not accepted by a person from the family. In general, the ability to perceive the world as real is far from being for many.

    I didn’t even put you a minus - I complained to the Administration about insulting the entire population of Russia - they will not ban you - then I’ll complain to your post to the Prosecutor’s Office - you already said a couple of articles of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - for 5 years)))
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    3. Campanella
      Campanella 4 July 2020 21: 33 New
      +1
      We can not plant for such things)))
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 4 July 2020 13: 45 New
    +3
    The main question remains open: why are really sensible, strong, energetic rulers who are true patriots of their homeland, as a rule, unable to cultivate a worthy change for themselves? quote from article

    I will answer from my own experience bully
    Because you have to, as soon as you reach the top, HERE to "cultivate" a receiver for yourself - the same arrogant, smart, ambitious - and not immediately get rid of people like you laughing "Cultivate", knowing that as soon as he gains strength, experience and knowledge - he will immediately "throw you off the throne" - for the Disciple will surpass the Master drinks For this we need "steel eggs" and the conviction that you are not plowing for yourself, but for others, and your personal well-being against the well-being of others is nothing !!!
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 4 July 2020 15: 17 New
      0
      That's what we have learned! Don’t need us money, give us a job! I was born in developed socialism. Total hated!
    2. Avior
      Avior 4 July 2020 15: 31 New
      0
      Something in the whole history of Russia such that it really and voluntarily renounced power, it seems, only one was found - Yeltsin.
      I remember, Ivan the Terrible, transferring power to a descendant of Genghis Khan, but quickly changed his mind and took it back, so this case does not count.
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 4 July 2020 15: 47 New
        -1
        I say that when busy every day, the presidents somehow quickly flew by. I don’t remember anything against Boriska. There was no time to get into big politics
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 4 July 2020 16: 57 New
        0
        Quote: Avior
        such that he really and voluntarily renounced power, it seems, only one was found- Yeltsin

        Maybe, maybe they asked.
  • Alexey Polyakh
    Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 16: 02 New
    +1
    DESIRING (and prescribed) - Land, 20 acres (2000 sq.m. (two thousand square meters)) - to each adult Citizen. Muscovite - in MOSCOW. A resident of St. Petersburg - in PETERSBURG. Etc. Land, in the amount of 1 (one) piece, with the possibility of exchange for other cities. For the construction of a house and the arrangement of gardening ... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications ....
  • Sarkazm
    Sarkazm 4 July 2020 16: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: Insurgent
    And almost four years ahead, isn’t there a sufficient period to catch up, fix, finish something?

    will not be 4 years old. He is sick and there is no time left. In October-November a successor will be presented
    The question is in what form this will be done, how and how independent his successor will be from his own camarilla ... But I don’t agree on the terms, he’s not as dead as many people have already written, he will still be in power for a year or two and that’s least.
    There is a real personnel shortage in the country and it is caused not by a lack of competence in general, but by a lack of ideology and faith, trust between the government and society, and general vulgarity.
    Any initiative and competent staff either goes into business to earn money, or to steal power (this also needs to be able to be handy by the way), or leaves for a hill. There are few of them, and not only here, but everywhere.
    The rest are a lot of performers, many are not bad, many can be not bad, if the ass soldering iron is constantly looming.
    Now we need a cardinal and at the same time soft, without hype, breaking up the system, the emergence of ideology and the designated guidelines for the development direction, setting clear objectives and adopting plans for them. Under this, it is not so easy to find a successor at the top more resembling a gang, the candidate should have both ambition and devotion to a certain idea (unknown to us), and exceptional will and rigidity for their implementation. Putin couldn’t do much, his march through fire, water and copper pipes is not something not to be called ideal, by the end a three-plus with a plus will be a compliment, but here you need ArchiPutin and if he is such a successor with such rudiments, you still need the courage to put him on at the helm after itself, and with the latter at the GDP a little tight.
  • cniza
    cniza 4 July 2020 16: 21 New
    +1
    A simple and unambiguous answer is hardly possible here, but it is necessary to find it.


    If we don’t find it, the country will again be plunged into turmoil and God forbid a civil war, and the worst thing is that our "partners" are well aware of this and are in a position, waiting ...
    1. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 16: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      If we do not find the country will again be plunged into turmoil and God forbid civil war

      Who with whom? Which sides do we have?
      1. cniza
        cniza 4 July 2020 16: 55 New
        +1
        They want to tear us up by nationality and the second by faith, the "partners" work day and night ...
    2. Alexey Polyakh
      Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 16: 59 New
      0
      DESIRING (and prescribed) - Land, 20 acres (2000 sq.m. (two thousand square meters)) - to each adult Citizen. Muscovite - in MOSCOW. A resident of St. Petersburg - in PETERSBURG. Etc. Land, in the amount of 1 (one) piece, with the possibility of exchange for other cities. For the construction of a house and the arrangement of gardening ... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications communications .... WITHOUT communications .... WITHOUT communications ....
      For most, work will be a side job. and it's not so bad
      1. cniza
        cniza 4 July 2020 17: 02 New
        +1
        What did you mean ? and more than once ...
        1. Alexey Polyakh
          Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 17: 05 New
          +2
          Excuse me generously. You won’t spoil the porridge with butter.
          This is me about the fundamental foundations of Existence and Freedom of the Person.
        2. Alexey Polyakh
          Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 17: 08 New
          +2
          Everyone Must:
          1. Build a House.
          2. Plant a tree.
          3. Raise a Child.

          Compliance with the Priority is MANDATORY !!!
          1. cniza
            cniza 4 July 2020 17: 27 New
            +1
            You forgot to write a book ...
            1. Alexey Polyakh
              Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 17: 32 New
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              There is a version that everything is already written, but NOT read. For example, "Anna Karenina" or "The Mean Knight" of Pushkin (pages 15-20)
              1. cniza
                cniza 4 July 2020 18: 07 New
                +2
                Quite precisely, as I understand it, far from everyone can write, so we read the classics ...
                1. Alexey Polyakh
                  Alexey Polyakh 4 July 2020 18: 18 New
                  +1
                  + + + 1005000
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 16: 34 New
    +1
    So turnover or continuity?
    Decide on your underpants or cross.
  • Uran53
    Uran53 4 July 2020 17: 11 New
    +2
    Judging by the text, the author of the Darkest elevated to the Most Holy. In order for the country to develop, the authorities need fresh "blood", ideas. Otherwise, the power will turn into a swamp, betraying nothing, besides swamp gas.
  • Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 4 July 2020 18: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: gurzuf
    Is Joseph Vissarionovich a weak leader?

    Under Great Stalin, could an official who sold 4 (four) fighter jets at a ridiculous price, get fat for at least one day?
    And now, the story of how a terry thief, nine years eaten 1,5 yard state rubles.

    The story of how much MIG31 is sold in Russia, and how to reduce tens of tons of fuel:
  • Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 4 July 2020 18: 13 New
    -1
    Quote: ssergey1978
    In essence, the progressive humanity has given an answer.

    As usual, you didn’t get two errors in the first, and the second is not progressive ...

    Power must be chosen is a fact.

    They do not choose it, there it is a wounded screen that hides the completely irremovable and indiscriminate power of the feudal and financial elite ....
  • gridasov
    gridasov 4 July 2020 19: 19 New
    0
    The most interesting thing is that if we talk about the technology of government as a systemic process, then nothing has changed after the Union. Except the names! People have changed, but no fantasies have been added to make the community more rational in its development. But let someone say how capitalism in the USA differs essentially from the legacy of socialism in present-day Russia. A conversation without emotions - but on a pure understanding of what is happening, this is not for everyone
    1. Siberian54
      Siberian54 5 July 2020 14: 37 New
      0
      And what to say, if cynical, then the electoral system of the USSR did not differ from the USA system, the same two chambers: the Supreme Council and the Politburo, and just like there, indirect elections and random people did not fall into power, except in the form of exceptions that confirm the rule , the only difference is that it killed the country-jurisdiction of part of the party-state officials, alas, a fatal mistake that killed a new branch of civilization.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 4 July 2020 20: 23 New
    +1
    Yes, this is an interesting topic of continuity. Peter the Great healed the blood of the nation. It was a social revolution. People from the bottom began to penetrate into the aria, navy, science, culture. The next breakthrough was made by Stalin. Prior to this, the lower classes did not have the opportunity to enter the government, science, culture. It was a real leap forward. Before this, Russian people did not imagine science in such numbers. The author asks when they will deal with the puzzle of continuity. Each leader is hindered by his environment. His environment is comfortable with his situation. And I think this issue will not be dealt with soon.
    1. Siberian54
      Siberian54 5 July 2020 14: 26 New
      0
      "Peter the Great healed the blood of the nation": if you are talking about the fact that the Baltic prostitute became the Empress, then the Roman heirs of the idiots rushed .. If the people "exchanged" around the government, so many servicemen should be put in various cross-border conflicts, you still have to manage this! Until then, they are afraid of the "elite" of the state that they would put almost all of it in petty wars, only Karl XII killed his country more!
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 4 July 2020 20: 50 New
    0
    It sometimes began to arise when I visited some branches that I was on some foreign media or the Ukrainian censor. not. Something is wrong with the resource.
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 4 July 2020 21: 44 New
    -3
    Do not try to look into the essence of things?
    Well, looked in? And what did the author of the article see there, besides the pathological love of power voiced by you, the desire to enjoy your own status forever.
  • Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 5 July 2020 00: 37 New
    +2
    The absence of true continuity of power for centuries is a real curse for our country and the government itself.

    How so? lol
    Since 1999, this same continuity has been seen judging by the political, economic course of those in power, continued by the next successor in 2008 and transmitted in 2012 in a natural sequence. So the author is wrong. With succession, we have the last 30 years just a complete order. The only question is, how many people in reality, on which lies the main burden of the path chosen by the authorities, support this continuity of the course entrusted to him by the previous "builders of the house with a kindergarten" and his own vision of this very path?
    Everybody heard about galoshes, about the “impossibility” of raising the retirement age and rewriting the Russian Federation’s health benefits “for oneself,” etc.
    Something tells me that the story will once again repeat in a single territory with a change of power. And as they say, it is not knowledge, in this case history, or attempts to rewrite with distortion of facts for the sake of the political conjuncture, does not relieve responsibility and leads to disastrous results. Isn’t it for this new reason that the capitalists of the Russian spill keep most of the assets and their families precisely because of the “hillock” because they know history? wink hi
  • strelokmira
    strelokmira 5 July 2020 00: 40 New
    0
    Lack of continuity as a curse of Russian power

    So the author means once again you are proposing to amend the constitution, so Putin’s relatives have not only double citizenship, but sometimes triple laughing
  • Siberian54
    Siberian54 5 July 2020 14: 13 New
    0
    “right up to Catherine the Great” —This petty-princess of Germany drove the country into slavery, driving millions of state peasants into bondage to “the right people” and freed serving nobility on “free bread” destroying the country's “fortress” and finally creating slavery in the Russian Empire.
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 5 July 2020 16: 16 New
    0
    That is precisely what Lenin believed. Contrary to all the fabrications, he left the country not to Trotsky or Stalin, but to the party created by him.


    well, do not hold Lenin as naive as anyone else, he realized how great the importance of the person is in the role of the head of Russia. Therefore, he tried as much as possible to consolidate his personality in history by writing a huge number of essays and instructions which were enough for 55 book volumes.

    As a result - agony, the embodiment of which became the "Kremlin elders"


    it is unnecessary to hang the agony of the USSR on the elders. Before the advent of the energetic and relatively young Gorbachev in 1985, the USSR economy grew by 5% per year, which Russia has been dreaming of for 8 years now that its economic growth has not exceeded 2%.
    And Misha Gorbachev drove the USSR into agony, just as a young man received a passenger car from his elderly parent, which he cared about and the shore, begins to modernize it and eventually turns it into scrap metal at the junkyard of history.

    why are really sensible, strong, energetic rulers who are true patriots of their homeland, as a rule, unable to nurture a worthy change for themselves?


    maybe just because you need to "grow" the receiver not to the post of head of Sweden or Denmark, for example, or even to the post of head of Germany. You need to grow to the post of head of Russia, the largest state in the world with its great imperial people. The country that must develop in order to develop an empire and countries living surrounded by enemies for hundreds of years.
  • Guazdilla
    Guazdilla 5 July 2020 19: 15 New
    0
    Institutional authorities of a healthy nation are not needed. Flexibility, rather than oakiness, is a much more universal way to decide the historical fate of a people. The delegation of authority is not through the carriers of their will put forward by the people in the person of its physical representatives. The exercise of power is accomplished on a spiritual level. Hence the truth-seeking and conscientiousness of the Russian nation. To live by law or by conscience, the issue for the Russians has long been resolved. Traditional institutions of power do not work in a difficult, transitional, post-communist period? There are alternative bodies: the night governor of St. Petersburg, the "fraternal" sponsors of the Votkinsk plant. Etc.
    Therefore, the physical carrier of the supreme power in Russia in general does not mean anything, with all its sacred status for contemporaries. The expression of the will of the Russian people can be compared with a wide, full-flowing river, in which both foreign, hostile and native, gracious mix in one stream, transforming into a homogeneous and at the same time, living, multifaceted mass, which in its internal impulse can change the course in individual sections.
  • 1536
    1536 6 July 2020 06: 27 New
    0
    Answers to many questions were given by I.V. Stalin in his speech "On the tasks of business executives" at the First All-Union Conference of Workers of Socialist Industry in 1931 (!):
    "The history of old Russia, by the way, consisted in the fact that it was continuously beaten for backwardness. The Mongol khans beat. The Turkish beks beat. The Swedish feudal lords beat. The Polish-Lithuanian pans beat. The British-French capitalists beat. The Japanese barons beat. All beat - for backwardness, for military backwardness, for cultural backwardness, for state backwardness, for industrial backwardness, for agricultural backwardness. They were beaten because it was profitable and went unpunished. Remember the words of the pre-revolutionary poet: “You and poor, you and plentiful, you and mighty, you and powerless, mother Rus ”
    Is it so important who is at the head of the state, or is the importance (again in Stalinist style) that “The task, therefore, is to master the technology ourselves, to become the masters of the business ourselves. Only this is the guarantee that our plans will be fully implemented, and one-man management will be carried out.”
  • CBR600
    CBR600 6 July 2020 08: 54 New
    0
    Answer to the article ...
    Traditions and culture, from which "Succession" follows, as a NATIONAL attitude towards what surrounds a country.
    Here you have healthy nationalism. That’s the national idea. And Mother Russia was deprived of culture and traditions. Guess what year? And the destruction of the Russian peasant went. The genocide of the people who own their land. It remains a little and how the Indians are driven into the ghetto, with cheap drugs and a casino. They will give the land to the nosy bearded and curly-haired. And then the English one will come and take everything.
    Russians ... Oh, it's scary when that sounds, right? And what are Russians? Intelligent and hardworking people, we and the king do not need. Thieves were executed, and murdered murderers. Only, for a long time not so. And that means that there are no Russians. That is why there is no national idea. Therefore, there is no "Succession".
  • Dmitry Donskoy_2
    Dmitry Donskoy_2 10 July 2020 06: 46 New
    0
    The curse of Russia is what we have
  • uncle Vlad
    uncle Vlad 13 July 2020 12: 05 New
    0
    Well, it’s written straight from Putin