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President trolling: Putin sets constitutional amendments to come into force on US Independence Day

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Today it became known when the constitutional amendments introduced into the country's Basic Laws enter into force. By decision of the president of the country, this will happen on July 4. Such information is available on the official portal of legal information in Russia.


Due to the fact that Vladimir Putin set the date of entry into force of the updated Russian Constitution on July 4, publications appeared in the network with statements of the following nature:

Putin is clearly the US troll, because on July 4 they are going to celebrate another Independence Day.

Coincidence? I don’t think ... July 4, US Independence Day, amendments to the Russian constitution will come into force.

Recall that, in all, according to the CEC of Russia, about 65% of citizens with the right to vote took part in the vote on amendments. Of these, about 78% of Russians supported the updating of the country's Basic Law. Moreover, among the most discussed amendments are the following:
Russia's succession in relation to Soviet assets, the constitutional ban on the alienation of Russian territories, the supremacy of Russian legislation over international, “zeroing” of the presidential term.

Today, from the Deputy Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Olga Epifanova, a proposal was made to change the date of the celebration of Constitution Day - postponing it to July 1 (the main voting day for amendments). Also, Ms. Epifanova, representing Fair Russia, believes that this day should be a day off on the calendar.

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  1. Vend
    Vend 3 July 2020 16: 31
    27
    Well, we know how to joke laughing
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 3 July 2020 16: 36
      -41 qualifying.
      Quote: Wend
      Well, we know how to joke laughing

      We can only joke wassat
      1. Vend
        Vend 3 July 2020 16: 41
        32
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Wend
        Well, we know how to joke laughing

        We can only joke wassat
        You can emit bile as much as you like, Russia cannot be destroyed and people are not deceived, as it was in the 90s. laughing
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 3 July 2020 16: 43
          -33 qualifying.
          Quote: Wend
          , as it was in the 90s will not work.

          Of course, as in the 90s it will not work, it will turn out as 2018-20 .. progress in this regard is obvious. Political strategists eat bread for good reason ..
          1. Vend
            Vend 3 July 2020 17: 02
            22
            Quote: Svarog
            Quote: Wend
            , as it was in the 90s will not work.

            Of course, as in the 90s it will not work, it will turn out as 2018-20 .. progress in this regard is obvious. Political strategists eat bread for good reason ..


            And in 2018, Russian citizens wanted to elect Putin and they elected, for 2 years the collapse in the country has not been observed, rather the opposite)
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 3 July 2020 17: 05
              -10 qualifying.
              Quote: Wend
              for 2 years in the country, the collapse is not observed, rather the opposite)

              You open your clear eyes .. We have a population decline in a small city per year .. there’s no need to ruin anything - 400 every year .. And this year it will be more ..
              1. KAV
                KAV 3 July 2020 17: 09
                32
                Quote: Svarog
                We have a population decline in a small city per year ..

                And you were warned about this, the President himself has repeatedly said this. Have you ever met a demographic pit of the 90s in the open? This pit is now coming around.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 3 July 2020 17: 11
                  -15 qualifying.
                  Quote: KAV
                  This pit is now coming around.

                  When the sink is empty .. if you blow it .. there it goes around .. And they don’t give birth, because there is no money to feed and work .. Oh, what a hole was after the revolution, the Second World War and nothing, the population only grew ..
                  1. KAV
                    KAV 3 July 2020 17: 18
                    19
                    Quote: Svarog
                    When the sink is empty .. if you blow it .. there and it sounds like ..

                    Well, if you only have a hint of empty shells, then you can hardly talk about anything.
                    Quote: Svarog
                    And do not give birth, because there is no money to feed and work ..

                    Lies! Also say that everyone is starving to death and a bunch of unemployed in the country! And cars and apartments, apparently, are bought by aliens.
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Oh, what a hole after the revolution, the Second World War and nothing, the population was only growing ..

                    Well, something with a finger does not need to be compared. Times, situations, mentality and much else of those years are incomparable and not applicable to current realities.
                    1. Shurik70
                      Shurik70 3 July 2020 17: 41
                      20
                      Judging by the fact that now in the United States, these will be the bloodiest "Independence Days"
                      1. Grits
                        Grits 4 July 2020 01: 32
                        +4
                        Quote: Shurik70
                        Judging by the fact that now in the United States, these will be the bloodiest "Independence Days"

                        Yes, everything seems to have calmed down there (to my great disappointment). Even the "newly independent state" in Seattle was broken up.
                    2. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 3 July 2020 18: 46
                      -11 qualifying.
                      Quote: KAV
                      Lies! Also say that everyone is starving to death and a bunch of unemployed in the country! And cars and apartments, apparently, are bought by aliens.

                      We do not have unemployed, what are you talking about.
                      1. Stalllker
                        Stalllker 4 July 2020 05: 11
                        +5
                        There are unemployed everywhere, a small percentage of people don’t want to work at all, it’s easier for them to sit on someone’s neck, for example, a husband, a wife, parents of pensioners or just parents
                      2. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 4 July 2020 11: 31
                        +3
                        Quote: Stalllker
                        There are unemployed everywhere, a small percentage of people don’t want to work at all, it’s easier for them to sit on someone’s neck, for example, a husband, a wife, parents of pensioners or just parents

                        Do you know a lot of people who are better off sitting on someone’s neck? Me not. In my city, the average salary is 15000, plus children on a distance, with whom it is necessary to deal. Personally, I have 4 students, respectively, one adult is constantly engaged in children. Total we consider 15 000 for 6 people. Does it make sense to work for someone in this situation, like mine? I myself, I created a workplace with my money, I work for myself. But is it from a good life? And here the president, the other day, said that Russia needs labor migrants, how is it? They don’t want to work for their own pennies, they invite migrants. Is this normal in your opinion? I'm just tired of hearing about endless successes and victories. Go down to the ground already.
                      3. Stalllker
                        Stalllker 4 July 2020 14: 29
                        -1
                        That's about the average salary just do not. And what's wrong with working for yourself ?! And you never know what he said, after the collapse of the USSR, these labor migrants are a dime a dozen. And the president cannot influence private traders what kind of work they should pay to their subordinates.
                      4. Vend
                        Vend 7 July 2020 11: 15
                        0
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Quote: Stalllker
                        There are unemployed everywhere, a small percentage of people don’t want to work at all, it’s easier for them to sit on someone’s neck, for example, a husband, a wife, parents of pensioners or just parents

                        Do you know a lot of people who are better off sitting on someone’s neck? Me not. In my city, the average salary is 15000, plus children on a distance, with whom it is necessary to deal. Personally, I have 4 students, respectively, one adult is constantly engaged in children. Total we consider 15 000 for 6 people. Does it make sense to work for someone in this situation, like mine? I myself, I created a workplace with my money, I work for myself. But is it from a good life? And here the president, the other day, said that Russia needs labor migrants, how is it? They don’t want to work for their own pennies, they invite migrants. Is this normal in your opinion? I'm just tired of hearing about endless successes and victories. Go down to the ground already.

                        You have 4 children and a salary of 15. Well, add another 000 at a time paid in June and July. doesn’t this win suit you? I have three children and I am almost 80 years old trying to increase my income. as they say. who studied what, and someone did not study at all, now groans that they pay little.
                  2. Paranoid50
                    Paranoid50 4 July 2020 10: 32
                    -3
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    We have no unemployed,

                    He jerked - bounced. laughing
                2. Stalllker
                  Stalllker 4 July 2020 05: 09
                  0
                  And don’t say, there are so many cars that it’s not possible to enter the yard, not to call
              2. DVR
                DVR 3 July 2020 17: 59
                10
                When the sink is empty .. if you blow it .. there it goes around .. But they don’t give birth, because there is no money to feed and work .. Oh, what a hole was after the revolution, the Second World War and nothing, the population only grew.

                You contradict yourself. You will not argue that after the revolution and the Second World War the standard of living was better than now.
              3. Dart2027
                Dart2027 3 July 2020 19: 42
                -4
                Quote: Svarog
                Oh, what a hole after the revolution, the Second World War and nothing

                There were no contraceptives, and abortion was prohibited.
              4. Alanart
                Alanart 3 July 2020 20: 49
                +4
                Yeah, and then by 1965 it stopped. Now the generation is leaving, which the first did not produce children in an amount sufficient for simple reproduction. 58 years old children are born less than necessary in order to replace their parents. But Putin is to blame. To just make up for the generation of small children of retirees who are now leaving for the Land of Eternal Hunt, modern young women need to give birth to 3-4 children each, and not one each, like their mothers in the 1s, and not 90, like their grandmothers in 1,8 the
              5. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 3 July 2020 23: 28
                +7
                Yeah, they don’t give birth in the West either. Probably from hunger.
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 4 July 2020 10: 06
                  +5
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  Yeah, they don’t give birth in the West either. Probably from hunger.
                  So Putin sometimes visits there! Here !!! To blame!
              6. Nastia makarova
                Nastia makarova 4 July 2020 06: 19
                -2
                you have an infa table in Russian !!! Russian population is declining but growing by Russians, so there is no loss of cadastral in Russia !!!
            2. Nikolay87
              Nikolay87 3 July 2020 19: 05
              0
              Quote: KAV
              Quote: Svarog
              We have a population decline in a small city per year ..

              And you were warned about this, the President himself has repeatedly said this. Have you ever met a demographic pit of the 90s in the open? This pit is now coming around.

              If in the 90s the reasons for the population decline are clear, then what is the reason now? The pit goes around ?! lol Why is mortality now higher than the birth rate? Girls are missing or what? If everything is fine, then everything should go uphill .... which AU, which ECHO?
              Or in the USSR, the pit came around only after 50 years?
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 3 July 2020 19: 44
                +5
                Quote: Nikolay87
                Girls are missing or what?

                Muzhikov. And if you looked into history, at least a hundred years ago, you would understand that.
                At the same time, material well-being is not at first in this matter at all. For in the 50s, when poverty was also ruined, people bred here like Catholic rabbits. Not for nothing, after all, Stalin used to say, we have Belgium born every month.
                1. Nikolay87
                  Nikolay87 3 July 2020 20: 49
                  +2
                  I did not speak about material well-being. Then I agree. If we take Africa, its population would have died out long ago. And it’s not the peasants here ...

                  ... but in the low standard of living of people, namely the lack of confidence in the future.
                  1. Grits
                    Grits 4 July 2020 01: 41
                    -3
                    Quote: Nikolay87
                    ... but in the low standard of living of people, namely the lack of confidence in the future.

                    Now in childbearing age (or rather, when is the time to give birth to children) are precisely those who were born in the funny 90s. There, then surely there was no certainty. Thanks to people like you for liberal values
                  2. Stalllker
                    Stalllker 4 July 2020 05: 14
                    +4
                    Come on, look around, just the poor have three or more children. And then on the news they show what unfortunate children and where they live, and there are many
                  3. Nikolay87
                    Nikolay87 4 July 2020 05: 49
                    0
                    Quote: Stalllker
                    Come on, look around, just the poor have three or more children. And then on the news they show what unfortunate children and where they live, and there are many

                    You do not quite correctly separate the concepts. Understand that those who are already at the bottom and do not see the light at the end of the tunnel begin to reproduce fruitfully, from the point of view of biology, this is an r-strategy, the birth of a large number of individuals, of which only a few survive, here the calculation goes to help from the state and the probability from keeping you in the future by your generation. And the K-strategy, the birth of a small number of cubs, the survival of which is much higher. Here the "middle" class carefully approaches the solution of this issue, since the maintenance of one child at the proper level already throws you to the threshold of the needy, and the birth of 2x at the same level of life will transfer you to its category. And as we know, in order to reach at least 0, you need to have at least 2 children.
                    Africa is without light at the end of the tunnel.
                    Russia is a growing gap between rich and poor, where not falling into the category of the latter becomes more and more difficult every year.
                2. Simargl
                  Simargl 4 July 2020 10: 16
                  +3
                  Quote: Nikolay87
                  And it’s not the peasants here ...
                  ... but in the low standard of living of people, namely the lack of confidence in the future.
                  This is all nonsense!
                  And you don’t know the story. In the Middle Ages, there were not many children in the Russian family. However, as soon as they began to distribute land allotments to consumers, families grew sharply: there were 3-5 children, a herd of up to 20.
                  Conclusion - to have children should be profitably!!! No tax on eggs childlessness, namely profitably!!! Now what? Having children is the goodwill of the family contrary to actions of the state.
                  Whatever is done, until he begins to have children profitably, - so we will:
                  "-I have no sister, I have no brother .."
                  Remember the song?
                  Is Putin to blame for her appearing?
                3. Nikolay87
                  Nikolay87 4 July 2020 14: 10
                  +4
                  Quote: Simargl
                  Is Putin to blame for her appearing?

                  The song is comic, BUT and like everything Soviet, with a deep meaning turned to the future. In the USSR, children were ACCEPTED, but not FAVORABLE. And all because there was confidence that for the child everything will be from kindergarten to distribution after high school for FREE! I brought the USSR as an alternative. I do not call you back to the USSR, I want you not to focus on the current System, because it is vicious and will create its followers.
                4. Simargl
                  Simargl 4 July 2020 20: 05
                  +2
                  Quote: Nikolay87
                  In the USSR, children were ACCEPTED, but not FAVORABLE.
                  Generally beneficial.
                  The fact is that at that time there was practically no generation gap: ancestors raised their grandchildren, now they supported their ancestors ... and now what?
                  The presence of kindergartens, free education means minimizing costs, increasing "profitability" by reducing losses.
                  The system is vicious because crowds of incompetent people adopt illogical laws, ignoring the studies of specialists.
                  Quote: Nikolay87
                  for she is vicious and will create her followers.
                  The system will protect itself. Will suck the juice from the plebs to the stop. Then - a crisis or revolution. It seems that they have already learned to do without revolutions. Then it will be average sucks, periodically disgusting.
                5. Siberian54
                  Siberian54 5 July 2020 15: 05
                  0
                  "they have learned to do without revolutions" -with 35% of young people in society, revolutions, riots, terrorism, etc. (underline the necessary). become self-sustaining .. With a lower percentage, only with outside funding, color revolutions are a direct example. We have removed the threat of direct financing of the rebels and now, until new sufficiently stable sources appear, peace is guaranteed.
                6. Simargl
                  Simargl 5 July 2020 19: 32
                  +1
                  Quote: Siberian54
                  -with 35% of the youth in a society, revolutions, riots, terrorism, etc. (underline what is necessary). become self-sustaining ..
                  Those. you just need to exterminate the old? Or force to give birth? The first is simpler.
    2. KAV
      KAV 3 July 2020 19: 44
      -1
      Quote: Nikolay87
      If in the 90s the reasons for the population decline are clear, then what is the reason now?
      The reason is that the children of the 90s grew up. Don't you really think? Then it makes no sense to explain.
      Quote: Nikolay87
      Why is mortality now higher than the birth rate?
      Because it is born less than it dies, obviously.
      Quote: Nikolay87
      Girls are missing or what?
      And in your universe do girls give birth without men?
      Quote: Nikolay87
      If everything is fine, then everything should go uphill .... which AU, which ECHO?
      Did I say that everything is fine? I said and say that everything is not as bad as some here try to present!
      Do not engage in casuistry, you do it badly.
      1. Nikolay87
        Nikolay87 3 July 2020 20: 29
        +1
        Quote: Nikolay87
        Why now mortality exceeds birth rate

        Because it is born less than it dies, obviously.

        Thanks, Cap good
        And in your universe do girls give birth without men?

        In "my universe" they don't justify their mistakes with fictitious excuses.
        Do you see drastic drawdowns here?

        Did I say that everything is fine?

        That's it. You are talking about nothing.
        For the European state, natural low birth rates, but not so high mortality. Hence the decline. Everywhere this imbalance is corrected with the help of emigrants.
        I don’t sprinkle ash on my head, but I won’t say thanks either, because there’s nothing for it.
    3. Ros 56
      Ros 56 3 July 2020 20: 28
      +3
      You forgot the extinct generation of the 70-80s born in the period of the 90s and zero from drug addiction and alcohol, because it was scary, in almost every house they were bodily. Even the creatures from prams were sold, but many would be 30-40 years old now, and they are in cemeteries, so you have no children.
    4. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 4 July 2020 06: 21
      -3
      normal men are not enough !!! around loafers, internet users and little sons
  2. Pravodel
    Pravodel 4 July 2020 16: 52
    +1
    What are you explaining to them ?! Libaras ... you, banderlogs, traitors, Vlasovites specifically forget, pretend you forget, but would like to return to the 90s, when the sex of Russia was tidied up in garbage dumps, when women refused to give birth, when there was hunger in the cities. Here you have the extinction of Russia. So who created this extinction? There is only one answer: libaras ... you, banderlogs, traitors, Vlasovites. And the people very well remember this and will never forget ...
  • 4ekist
    4ekist 3 July 2020 17: 17
    11
    And what have you personally done to increase the population, what is your contribution? Many simply do not want children (limited to 1-2) and put career and mat in the first place. well-being.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 3 July 2020 21: 06
      +9
      Quote: 4ekist
      Many simply do not want children (limited to 1-2) and put career and mat. well-being.

      Many put in the first place just mate
      about the meagerness of salaries and prospects for well-being.
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 3 July 2020 22: 37
        +1
        And this is also true.
  • Vend
    Vend 3 July 2020 17: 30
    +1
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Wend
    for 2 years in the country, the collapse is not observed, rather the opposite)

    You open your clear eyes .. We have a population decline in a small city per year .. there’s no need to ruin anything - 400 every year .. And this year it will be more ..

    Yes, my eyes are open from birth, and my head works, whether to harm her will you succeed. The fact that the problems with demography is a well-known legacy of the 90s + Western propaganda, but the government is working, mother capital is increasing, assistance to large families, and even 10 thousand per child, is paid twice at once, and so on, and now the Constitution also says a lot of useful things demographics.
    1. DVR
      DVR 3 July 2020 23: 02
      +1
      If you will, then my vision of the question is as follows.
      Raising the retirement age was practically unavoidable. Main reasons: economic factor, demographic position, partially colonial status of the Russian Federation (the notorious primacy of international law, including). Everyone understands that the Central Bank is integrated into the global financial system, which is managed by a private Fed store, and the IMF is one of the management tools that pushes through these decisions. The Russian Federation is a civilized state, and is forced to follow the letter of the law. That is why the only strategic, in my opinion, amendment on the priority of Russian legislation is so important, because of it everything was started. And if you look at the retirement age in other countries, then there are not so many of them where the retirement age is lower than in Russia.
      The GDP error is what he said in 2005. So now there would be nothing to present. I consider this miscalculation to be completely non-critical, nothing bad happened, it is extremely difficult to calculate everything for such a long-term perspective, in my opinion. The world has changed beyond recognition during this period, and the dynamics of processes are paradoxically unpredictable. I see no need now to reproach him for what was said in 2005 for the rest of his life and to inflate an elephant from a fly. Moreover, objectively, the position of the Russian Federation (and Russian citizens) during the presidency of Putin has radically changed for the better.
      PS: In no case do I oppose you, on the contrary, I agree. It’s just that now there is no time for VO, and I don’t want to write to some people, so as not to get involved in the discussion and spend time answering a meaningless set of words, and sometimes even hysterical nonsense. Giving on the wort is not difficult, but I do not get much pleasure from it hi
      1. Revival
        Revival 4 July 2020 01: 28
        +2
        Keeping your word is not fashionable, right?
        Nothing wrong..
        1. DVR
          DVR 4 July 2020 02: 01
          -2
          Keeping your word is not fashionable, right?
          Nothing wrong..

          You inattentively read my comment, and the mod is not interesting to me. I’m duplicating specially for you:
          Just now there is no time for VO, and I don’t want to write to some, so as not to get involved in the discussion and spend time answering a meaningless set of words, and sometimes even hysterical nonsense. Giving on the wort is not difficult, but I do not get much pleasure from it

          Can you give examples where I did not keep my word? Ready to keep your word, give an example, where did I merge, and not my opponents?
          1. Revival
            Revival 4 July 2020 02: 30
            +2
            And where did you get that I'm talking about your word?
            Maybe of course I wrote something wrong, but it's not at all about you and not at all about your opponents
          2. DVR
            DVR 4 July 2020 02: 38
            -1
            And where did you get that I'm talking about your word?
            Maybe of course I wrote something wrong, but it's not at all about you and not at all about your opponents

            I understand that the word GDP worries you. I expressed my opinion in sufficient detail. Do you really think that a statement 15 years ago is now worth discussing with such addiction? Is it so important right now?
    2. DVR
      DVR 4 July 2020 02: 15
      0
      And yes, the one who does nothing is not mistaken. And much has been done, in my opinion, almost impossible in those conditions.
      1. Revival
        Revival 4 July 2020 02: 32
        +4
        Yes, but at the same time the one who is mistaken should be held responsible
        1. DVR
          DVR 4 July 2020 02: 56
          0
          Yes, but at the same time the one who is mistaken should be held responsible
          Responsibility must be proportionate to the act committed. In this case, the act (pronounced by the GDP in 2005) did not cause any damage to the Russian Federation and its citizens, except for moral. The citizens were not ready, and the pension reform became a cold shower. VVP has already "atoned for" its guilt many times, so much shit has been poured on it for it. Moreover, according to any ratings, he is the absolute leader in Russia today, which means the overwhelming majority understands the situation, they left it in the past. Only a relatively small percentage will waste it for the rest of their lives. Someone is rightly angry, not fully understanding the situation, and someone - with quite understandable goals.
          I do not support pension reform, but, if soberly analyzed, it could not be avoided for the reasons mentioned earlier by me (and others).
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 3 July 2020 19: 16
    0
    Quote: Svarog
    We have a population decline in a small city per year .. there’s no need to ruin anything here - 400 every year.

    Smooth, dear. And let's honestly remember ... Now, starting right from the 17th of the last century. And so, the revolution, after hunger, poverty, the First World War and the Civil War. The question is, who do these events mow more? Let's go further ... After all this repression, again hunger, devastation and so on ... again the same question, who did all this basically mow down? Right-again men.
    We go further ... The Finnish war, the war in Spain, the Second World War ... again the same question.
    We fly further ... post-war devastation, industrialization, Afghanistan, Perestroika ... further, the 90s, Yeltsin right up to the zero. There are two Chechen wars, Georgia and so on.
    Now we’re knocking out debit and credit ... For all this time, all these events whom have millions coughed up? Men. Therefore, for one man, in some regions we have up to seven Russian women. And an average of 3 to 5 women. We add to this the divorces, the woman's running around after a career, furs, cars and oligarchs and an oil painting. I have not yet remembered the birth rate and mortality, and the death in car accidents, drunkenness and drug addiction, infertility and impotence.
    And now you say that here in a small city disappears? Ha...
    We have a specific demography ... stupidly there aren’t enough men for everyone, so the population doesn’t multiply.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 3 July 2020 21: 02
      10
      Quote: NEXUS
      Smooth, dear. And let's honestly remember ..

      No need to even remember .. I have enough personal experience and facts. They are much easier to understand if you yourself have children and communicate with people. I have three of my own and one adoptive .. Any woman will answer you that she’s ready to give birth from her beloved man, and the number of children depends directly on the confidence in tomorrow that she can grow and educate .. This is the determining one .. and not all sorts of conspiracy theories .. Woman created by nature to give birth, you need to create only the conditions and the most important - confidence in the future. In the USSR, it was confidence in the future ..
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 4 July 2020 06: 24
        -5
        yeah from anyone !!! for you women what sows?
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 3 July 2020 21: 15
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      Now we’re knocking out debit and credit ... For all this time, all these events whom have millions coughed up? Men. Therefore, for one man, in some regions we have up to seven Russian women. And an average of 3 to 5 women.

      Look at the graphs of the distribution of men and women by age and you will see
      that the main prevalence of women refers to the ages when people are already
      usually do not breed.
    3. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 3 July 2020 22: 29
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      stupidly there are not enough men at all, that’s why the population does not multiply.

      So after all, a woman needs 9 months to give birth to a child, and a man can at least make new ones every day.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 3 July 2020 23: 15
        -1
        Quote: Narak-zempo
        So after all, a woman needs 9 months to give birth to a child, and a man can at least make new ones every day.

        Doing a lot of new ones, huh?
        1. Narak-zempo
          Narak-zempo 4 July 2020 08: 24
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          Doing a lot of new ones, huh?

          Nobody set such tasks.
          Yes, and women - they do not understand the real division of responsibilities. Like, he did, she endured, gave birth and raised. All of them are distorting the economic side of the issue. They are more interested in a man’s earnings, and not in the quality of his genetic material.
    4. Wowka
      Wowka 4 July 2020 02: 07
      -2
      Quote: NEXUS
      ... And let's honestly remember ...
      revolution...
      World War I...
      Civil War...
      repression ...
      The Finnish War
      war in spain
      The Second World War...
      We fly further ...
      Afgan
      two Chechen wars
      Georgia and so on.

      To this we add wars (funding / support / participation) in all Papuan countries, etc.

      Well, maybe it's time to stop fighting?
  • Alex777
    Alex777 3 July 2020 19: 44
    0
    What is that? How many people have gone from 91?
    11,5 million? lol
    If not, then formulate your thought so that it can be checked. Otherwise, chatter turns out.
    I have the data at hand. Immediately show what and where.
    By the way, your numbers are very similar to the population decline in Ukraine. By chance? wink
  • venik
    venik 4 July 2020 10: 02
    -3
    Quote: Svarog
    You open your clear eyes .. We have a population decline in a small city per year .. there’s no need to ruin anything - 400 every year .. And this year it will be more ..

    ==============
    Where do you get the numbers? Didn't you confuse it with "nenkoy"? There - just a nightmare - for 7 years, 200 has been decreasing annually! For 000 years of "independence" already -30 million (out of 8 million).
  • freddyk
    freddyk 3 July 2020 20: 49
    +1
    Quote: Wend
    , over 2 years in the country, the collapse is not observed, rather the opposite)

    Yes of course. Perhaps that’s why Putin is calling for guest workers to save Russia. In Russia, he says, there are not enough people))) Both laughter and sin.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 3 July 2020 23: 27
      -2
      Are you going to knead concrete at a construction site? Or clean the yards? More likely than not. And who will do this, taking into account what we prefer in offices at the computer?
      1. freddyk
        freddyk 4 July 2020 01: 33
        +4
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Are you going to knead concrete at a construction site? Or clean the yards? More likely than not. And who will do this, taking into account what we prefer in offices at the computer?

        In Soviet times, concrete was kneaded, and yards were cleaned without emigrants. The country was rebuilt in ten years after the war and everyone was happy. Sitting in the office you can’t raise the country. Gansters raise the economy of their countries by sending money there. This is common knowledge. By the way, I’m just cleaning the streets and emigrants aren’t hiring us ... So far. But Putin said it should, then it will. The salary will be cut in half, some Uzbeks will work. And we throw caps into the air.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 4 July 2020 02: 13
          +1
          In Soviet times, concrete was kneaded, and yards were cleaned without emigrants.

          Yes, then they were ordinary citizens. hi
          1. freddyk
            freddyk 4 July 2020 11: 24
            +3
            Quote: Alex777
            Yes, then they were ordinary citizens


            I agree. Only Uzbeks (I apologize, residents of the Uzbek SSR) kneaded concrete at home and cotton was grown for the whole country. And in Leningrad, for example, Russians worked at construction sites. There was enough work for everyone and enough people. And each in its place. That is what the leadership of the countries is striving for. In this regard, I, for example, fully support Trump. First of all, it is necessary for its citizens to provide conditions and jobs. Then you will be respected and patriotism will not be artificially inculcated.
            Something like this. hi
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 4 July 2020 12: 41
              -2
              Examples of the USSR are now of little use. yes
              Then there were much fewer places in universities.
              There were vocational schools and there was no free travel abroad, as now.
              Therefore, as then - never will be.
              It is strange that this is not obvious to you. hi
              By the way, as the ruble fell, even visitors from Asia began to lack money. And when the rate was 30 rubles for green, getting 50 rubles. per month, they themselves lived, and supported families, and managed to build houses at home ..
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 09: 31
          -1
          And who worked on construction sites and cleaned yards in the USSR? As a rule, people trying to break out of the countryside and catch on in the city. Internal labor migrants.
          1. Esoteric
            Esoteric 4 July 2020 13: 46
            +4
            Well, my uncle worked at a construction site. Not once from the countryside. Earned an apartment, a summer house. What is wrong? In the beginning, I wanted a cooperative, it was possible, suddenly, in the USSR to have our own apartment, many do not know about it. But I decided to take what was supposed to be free of charge.
            And about cooperative housing. In damned socialism, no mortgages and loans were provided for, there was an installment plan for the apartment. What trouble is it? For usurers.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 13: 57
              -2
              The line was still for housing, don’t you remember? Otherwise, a good third of Petersburgers would not have lived in communal apartments. For joining a cooperative in Leningrad, the turn was also not illusory. So, it’s better for the money, but here and now - time is an irreplaceable resource.
            2. Esoteric
              Esoteric 4 July 2020 14: 12
              +2
              I agree of course. But here and now it is an illusion. With a salary of 30 tr, and it’s still very good to take a mortgage, it’s to put a yoke on yourself, in fact, to sell yourself to a slave bank. Which at any moment will deprive you of this housing. You are essentially a slave. And 90 percent of us have wage workers, and their salary leaves much to be desired ...
              I remember the keys to the apartment, for children returning from school under a doormat, or from their neighbors. Is this possible now?
    2. Esoteric
      Esoteric 4 July 2020 09: 14
      +4
      Why not go? Give a decent payment, not only will they run. Not everyone is allowed to sit in offices and speculate, some can and still want to work. But for a penny to knead concrete, on six days, for 12 hours, for the well-being of our "respected" hucksters - thank you.
      1. freddyk
        freddyk 4 July 2020 13: 17
        +1
        Quote: Ezoterik
        Why not go? Give a decent payment, not only will they run. Not everyone is allowed to sit in offices and speculate, some can and still want to work. But for a penny to knead concrete, on six days, for 12 hours, for the well-being of our "respected" hucksters - thank you.

        Absolutely, they need a cheap slave, or rather slaves without rights. Illegals are the most. Instead of fighting this, Putin throws out a cry - migrant workers, go to Russia. It’s just interesting, 80% of Russians work in our offices, judging by the vote?
        1. Esoteric
          Esoteric 4 July 2020 14: 00
          +4
          You can and should scold the USSR for a lot, there is a reason. But it is possible and necessary to talk about the good that was in this now lost country. And there was a lot of good. For example, it never occurred to anyone to sell you an unsuitable thing for more than you bought it. Selling with a price tag, they say look, for what I bought, for that I give. Otherwise, a shame for you, and the reputation in the eyes of the collective is irrevocably destroyed.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 14: 25
            -1
            If the item was in short supply, then it was usually sold much higher than face value. If it was on sale, then yes - with a price tag.
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 14: 24
          -2
          Now in many industries, working professions are more intellectual than physical. In St. Petersburg, local minibuses and delivery trucks sit reluctantly for the steering wheel, although they pay quite well there.
    3. Plastmaster
      Plastmaster 4 July 2020 19: 14
      +1
      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      Are you going to knead concrete at a construction site? Or clean the yards? More likely than not. And who will do this, taking into account what we prefer in offices at the computer?

      So you need more beautiful life on TV to twist. About those who do not do nichrome and has everything. To teach how to get to home2, how to become blue, to show more that women are finished, knots and whores. Show about billions in the carps under the bed. Series about second-hand books and universities, ........
      And then the people will change their minds.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 20: 02
        -3
        What does it mean to twist? Any content is on the Internet, to everyone as it becomes corrupt. The youth duroscope almost does not look. And they won’t go to wave a broom - they know dozens of legal ways to click money with a mouse.
  • Good forester
    Good forester 3 July 2020 17: 17
    +3
    What collapse occurred 2018-20?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 July 2020 18: 27
      -9
      There was a collapse of the "sistemnik" with a memory card "in the skull of the one who wrote above.
  • tol100v
    tol100v 4 July 2020 14: 03
    +1
    Quote: Svarog
    Political strategists eat bread for good reason ..

    Soon they will love the balance more than jamon!
  • Arlen
    Arlen 3 July 2020 16: 44
    18
    Quote: Wend
    to deceive people, as it was in the 90s, it will not work

    But they continue to deceive ... Do you think people with retirement age were not deceived? Well, with other promises ...
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 3 July 2020 16: 46
      +6
      Quote: Arlen
      Quote: Wend
      to deceive people, as it was in the 90s, it will not work

      But they continue to deceive ... Do you think people with retirement age were not deceived? Well, with other promises ...

      No, they don't think so .. there are those who lie and those who lie, they can be seen from those "who" lie .. This is the job ..
      1. Vend
        Vend 3 July 2020 16: 57
        -2
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Arlen
        Quote: Wend
        to deceive people, as it was in the 90s, it will not work

        But they continue to deceive ... Do you think people with retirement age were not deceived? Well, with other promises ...

        No, they don't think so .. there are those who lie and those who lie, they can be seen from those "who" lie .. This is the job ..

        Do not judge other people by yourself. laughing
    2. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 3 July 2020 16: 59
      28
      Quote: Arlen
      Do you think people with retirement age are not deceived?

      So consider only very, to put it mildly, foolish people ...
      "I am against increasing the retirement age. And while I am president, such a decision will not be made. And in general, I think that we do not need to increase the retirement age. We need to stimulate people who believe that after reaching the retirement age can continue to work, for health reasons. It is possible to stimulate, create economic conditions for the motivation to continue working, but without infringing on their pension rights. And I repeat, I am against increasing the retirement age for both men and women "(27 September 2005 during a straight line).

      "I think there is no need to raise the retirement age in the Russian Federation" (October 18, 2007 during a direct line).

      "This [raising the retirement age] is out of the question, if we had done this, the retirement age in the country would have already been 65 years old today for both men and women. We understand that for Russia today this is unacceptable and unnecessary" (April 18, 2012 years as prime minister at a meeting of the government of the Russian Federation).

      “We have repeatedly stated that we consider it inappropriate to raise the retirement age in Russia, and we will not do this, because we have a shorter life expectancy than in Europe, to put it mildly. But we still need to offer clear and understandable solutions to the problem , but the problem exists "(May 7, 2012 in the Kremlin during a meeting on the execution of the May decrees).

      "We believe that we still have neither the economic, nor social, nor in terms of life expectancy, to increase the retirement age. And we said: we will not increase it" (October 3, 2013 at a meeting with the activists of the United Russia party ).

      "We have already said many times, we believe that today it is inappropriate to raise the retirement age, which has been done in all European countries and our neighbors. By the way, the retirement age has also been raised in Ukraine. We are not doing this with you. But we need to ensure sustainability. the pension system, to ensure that it is an effective part of the entire Russian economy, to ensure its social justice, to ensure that the incomes of pensioners are comparable to the average wages of recent years "(December 5, 2013 at the conference of the All-Russian Popular Front).

      "Can we, are we ready to now take and dramatically raise the retirement age? I think not. I'll tell you why. Because, yes, our life expectancy is growing, but still for a man - 65 and a half years . If we set the retirement age at 65 - excuse me for the simplicity of expression, it worked, in a wooden mac - and went? It's impossible. As the life expectancy increases, we will probably come to the solution of these questions someday, First of all, this should be done in an open dialogue with society, people need to understand what is happening, understand what is causing it, what inaction can lead to, and what failure to take timely decisions can lead to. People should know about this and should understand this ... Further, even in Soviet times we did not have such elements that fill our pension system now and which make it so very clumsy and costly ... I repeat again, this is very important , sun These things should be openly discussed and ultimately accepted by society. This is how you need to work "(April 16, 2015 during a direct line).

      “We are actively discussing the possibility of raising the retirement age. Some experts believe that we cannot do without raising the retirement age, refer to the experience of other countries, including neighboring states. Take the same Ukraine, and in general, practically everything, Belarus, I already I'm not talking about Europe. With Europe is not a very correct comparison, meaning life expectancy, but with these countries it is quite correct. But there this decision has been made, but we have not. I believe that this should be treated very carefully. any rumors that the decision has already been made: no, the decision has not been made. But it is really being discussed, it is being discussed at the expert level, at the government levels "(June 15, 2017 during a direct line).

      "The decision [on raising the retirement age] cannot be made behind the scenes, even at the government level. This should be done openly, with the involvement of the public and, of course, during an open discussion in representative government bodies, including parliament" (December 14, 2017 during a big press conference).
      1. Voyager
        Voyager 3 July 2020 18: 07
        +1
        A fool is a person who never changes his mind (c) I don’t remember who.

        Opinion and position should always change based on the state of affairs. Now we have an economic and demographic ass. In the world, it will become stronger with us too. The budget for pensioners had to be redrawn.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 3 July 2020 18: 53
          +5
          Quote: Voyager
          We now have an economic and demographic ass

          And tell me, thanks to whose wise rule, this very designated "ass" happened to us?
          1. Voyager
            Voyager 3 July 2020 19: 13
            0
            I will say it. Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 3 July 2020 19: 16
              10
              Quote: Voyager
              I will say it. Gorbachev and Yeltsin.

              Can you tell me who Yeltsin left behind? Who built the Yeltsin Center? Chubais, doesn’t accidentally cut the forest yet?
              1. Voyager
                Voyager 3 July 2020 19: 23
                +3
                My turn to ask questions. Is Putin personally to blame for the demographic pit of the 90s?
                Is Putin to blame for the financial crises of the 08th and future?
                Is Putin to blame for imposing sanctions on our country?
                And the main question: when was the last time you lived better in Russia than today?
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 3 July 2020 20: 03
                  +4
                  Quote: Voyager
                  My turn to ask questions. Is Putin personally to blame for the demographic pit of the 90s?

                  I personally have nothing against Putin. Putin acts as a protégé of large financial and resource capital, i.e. the oligarchy that has ruled our country since the 90s. The course that our country is following is dictated precisely by their interests. Therefore, it is not very important who works there as a "talking head" whether Putin, Medvedev, or someone else, the course of the Russian Federation will not change much and our state will not turn its face to the people.
                  Quote: Voyager
                  Is Putin to blame for the financial crises of the 08th and future?

                  The financial crisis of 2008 is a general global crisis, one of those crises that periodically shake the capitalist system of economic relations. From the head of state only depends on how exactly the state will emerge from the crisis. Personally, I did not notice much effectiveness.
                  Quote: Voyager
                  Is Putin to blame for imposing sanctions on our country?

                  Partly yes, because the establishment of a nationalist fascist regime in the neighboring state, with the fraternal people, was missed. Where is Zurabov now? What did foreign intelligence do? Didn’t they know? I find it hard to believe.
                  Quote: Voyager
                  And the main question: when was the last time you lived better in Russia than today?

                  In the USSR, which was ineptly destroyed by those who today "privatized" the country's natural resources, the banking system, transport, etc. I am very afraid that if he goes on as he goes, they will ruin Russia too, because their pocket is much closer to them.
                2. Voyager
                  Voyager 4 July 2020 13: 59
                  -2
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  The course that our country is following is dictated precisely by their interests.

                  You have not answered the question. The unpopular destruction under discussion is due to the demographic pit - this is the main reason among all the others. So what should collective Putin have to do to prevent this? At an accelerating pace for 20 years in the economy, get out of the mud to riches and at the same time not depend on the oil needle?
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  From the head of state depends only on how exactly the state will emerge from the crisis. Personally, I did not notice much effectiveness.

                  I’m sure that you didn’t notice the 08th crisis in our country as such, and all thanks to the stabilization fund, which the government has developed to forestall.
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  In part, yes, because the establishment of a nationalist fascist regime in the neighboring state, with the fraternal people, was missed.

                  I partially agree with this, you are right - Ukraine has been missed. That's just the problem is much higher: occur in Ukraine that game that happened, do not occur - the result will be the same. Sanctions were imposed when it became profitable and there would be no Ukraine - they would have found another reason.
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  In the USSR, which was ineptly destroyed by those who today "privatized" the country's natural resources, the banking system, transport, etc.

                  A sense of calm and stability was, yes, only it was a stable deprivation. It was a problem to buy banal furniture and normal clothes - they stood in lines for a very long time. Cars could afford units. You can list for a long time. But you do not directly answer questions. What, now lives badly in Russia? Has it gotten worse over the past 20 years? Or maybe better?
                3. Cyril G ...
                  Cyril G ... 4 July 2020 19: 21
                  -1
                  I am very afraid that if it goes further, it’s going to ruin Russia, too, because its pocket is much closer to them.

                  In my opinion, THIS DAY, when Russia will be destroyed, will be the last day of the safe existence of all the beneficiaries entrenched in the West from the collapse of the USSR. Western Elites will never recognize them as their equal this time, and secondly, they will just open them and strip them to the skin. And even the precedent according to which billions stolen across the CIS countries at any time can be considered illegally received and confiscation has already been created. The case of Abramovich v. Berezovsky. It was considered in London if my memory does not fail me in 2012.
              2. paul3390
                paul3390 3 July 2020 21: 48
                +8
                My turn to ask questions. Is Putin personally to blame for the demographic pit of the 90s?
                And you read how his biography should be - what did the favorite of the people do in the 90s? And you will understand - yes, and he is also to blame .. Like the others who were then dribbling the country ..
              3. Voyager
                Voyager 4 July 2020 13: 50
                -1
                Did you vote for Yeltsin?
            2. Wowka
              Wowka 4 July 2020 02: 26
              +4
              Quote: Voyager
              Is Putin personally to blame for the demographic pit of the 90s?

              Ha-ha))) Well, in your opinion, it is in the "demographic hole" that Yeltsin and Gorbachev are to blame))) They were already old .. they could not have all at once)))
              Quote: Voyager
              Is Putin to blame for the financial crises of the 08th and future?

              No, and who? Capitalism, huh? Well, who is building capitalism in the country? Or is the people to blame, because he himself chose the path of development? It turns out that when you get laurels - that’s Putin, and if you are guilty - that’s either the people or the wild West! ))) Again hehe)))
              There is an opinion about the 08 crisis: "The war in Georgia was the last straw for many. Fear of the Kremlin's capricious and capricious behavior led to a massive exodus of investors from the country; according to experts, in the first few weeks after the outbreak of hostilities, investments from Russia went to the amount of twenty one billion dollars. " And this is just the last straw, as it is written ..
              Well, you won’t throw words out of a song, the outflow of capital is a real indicator. Well, then who is to blame? Wild West again?
              Quote: Voyager
              Is Putin to blame for imposing sanctions on our country?

              Well, here it’s just Ha Ha))) Dear, sanctions are what? This is a consequence. And why they turned out is the Reason. We must talk about the Reason, then it will be clear why the sanctions and who created such reasons ..
              Those. it turns out that you need to think yourself before asking questions. Maybe there will be no questions then.
            3. Voyager
              Voyager 4 July 2020 14: 04
              -3
              Quote: Wowka
              No, and who? Capitalism, huh? Well, who is building capitalism in the country? Or is the people to blame, because he himself chose the path of development? It turns out that when you get laurels - that’s Putin, and if you are guilty - that’s either the people or the wild West! ))) Again hehe)))

              During the global financial crisis, the 08th was not lost only to those who have nothing to lose. Either you are developing economically in global realities, or you continue to sit under the Iron Curtain.
              Quote: Wowka
              There is an opinion about the 08 crisis: "The war in Georgia was the last straw for many. Fear of the Kremlin's capricious and capricious behavior led to a massive exodus of investors from the country; according to experts, in the first few weeks after the outbreak of hostilities, investments from Russia went to the amount of twenty one billion dollars. " And this is just the last straw, as it is written ..
              Well, you won’t throw words out of a song, the outflow of capital is a real indicator. Well, then who is to blame? Wild West again?

              So this is the opinion of an idiot. What, Russia attacked Georgia?
              Quote: Wowka
              We must talk about the Reason, then it will be clear why the sanctions and who created such reasons ..

              It is true, and if you think with a healthy head, it becomes clear that the West created the reasons and imposed sanctions. And you have one "haha" in your head, try to turn it on and use it for its intended purpose at least once.
          2. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 4 July 2020 09: 52
            +5
            Quote: Voyager
            My turn to ask questions. Is Putin personally to blame for the demographic pit of the 90s?

            Putin is to blame for the fact that he did not condemn the EBN board, thereby indirectly ranking himself as a result of this board. Putin is to blame for the fact that over the twenty years of his reign, the population of Russia has decreased (physically, without joining and migrants) by tens of millions of people. And the very composition of the nation-forming nation was thinned out by people with primary knowledge of the Russian language.
            Quote: Voyager
            Is Putin to blame for the financial crises of the 08th and future?

            Obama and the IMF ... wassat
            Quote: Voyager
            Is Putin to blame for imposing sanctions on our country?

            Thanks to his policy, we have formed a state dependent on the dollar and oil prices.
            Quote: Voyager
            And the main question: when was the last time you lived better in Russia than today?

            Really, when? And to whom? Those who headed the Forbes lists, those who never lived to retire, or those tens of millions who do not see any prospects in their "ragged" life ...
          3. Voyager
            Voyager 4 July 2020 14: 08
            -4
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Putin is to blame for the fact that over the twenty years of his reign, the population of Russia has decreased (physically, without joining and migrants) by tens of millions of people.

            Do you seriously think that it was possible to prevent the consequences of the 90s, which in the form of a time bomb humble after 20-30 years and another 10-15 minimum will hack?
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Thanks to his policy, we have formed a state dependent on the dollar and oil prices.

            Sitting on an oil needle at a certain point was the only right and realistic decision. If you have an objection, give an alternative plan of action. How to develop the economy.
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Really, when? And to whom? Those who headed the Forbes lists, those who never lived to retire, or those tens of millions who do not see any prospects in their "ragged" life ...

            You do not speak for tens of millions, speak for yourself. and answer the question without wriggling already: When was life better in Russia than now?
    3. Revival
      Revival 4 July 2020 01: 34
      +2
      And the Pechenegs Napoleonic
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 3 July 2020 21: 22
    +8
    Quote: Voyager
    Now we have an economic and demographic ass. In the world, it will become stronger with us too. The budget for pensioners had to be redrawn.

    Bravo! Well, it’s not the budget feeding of the oligarchy that is redrawn.
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 3 July 2020 18: 50
    +6
    The man is the master of his word, he wanted to give the word, he wanted to take it back.
  • Vend
    Vend 3 July 2020 17: 00
    -12 qualifying.
    Quote: Arlen
    Quote: Wend
    to deceive people, as it was in the 90s, it will not work

    But they continue to deceive ... Do you think people with retirement age were not deceived? Well, with other promises ...


    If the head of the country cannot change something based on the current situation, then we will get what is in Ukraine or in the EU or in the USA. With what promises, for example, have you been deceived? They promised to increase maternal capital - they raised it, promised to pay at a time to those with children under 16 years old - and so on.
    1. tatra
      tatra 3 July 2020 17: 06
      10
      Yes, Putin’s propagandists came up with a good excuse, starting with Peskov in style. Well, he promised that then, but now everything has changed. But no matter how you otmazyvatsya Putin, he proved to everyone that his promises can not be trusted.
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      2. Vend
        Vend 3 July 2020 17: 33
        -6
        Quote: tatra
        Yes, Putin’s propagandists came up with a good excuse, starting with Peskov in style. Well, he promised that then, but now everything has changed. But no matter how you otmazyvatsya Putin, he proved to everyone that his promises can not be trusted.

        laughing laughing wonder how much you fit, Russia will not get you. she will stand evil to you all laughing laughing laughing
      3. Voyager
        Voyager 3 July 2020 18: 09
        +2
        Quote: tatra
        he proved to everyone that his promises cannot be trusted.

        And which politician fulfills all his promises? The world is a complicated thing, sometimes you have to do it the wrong way. In my opinion, you are ready to strangle you, but only to convict of non-fulfillment of some promise, which was given a long time ago in completely different realities.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 3 July 2020 23: 06
          -5
          Only one politician fulfilled all, well, or almost all campaign promises. Hitler is his last name.
        2. Revival
          Revival 4 July 2020 01: 37
          +1
          And, so this is just an ordinary ordinary politician? Well, if so, then yes ..
          And then fanned, fanned
    2. udincev
      udincev 3 July 2020 17: 11
      +7
      Quote: Wend
      With what promises, for example, have you been deceived?

      This, of course, is not a promise. But the constitution would have to be implemented. Especially since we have a constitution, a guarantor.
      1. Vend
        Vend 3 July 2020 18: 26
        -5
        Quote: udincev
        Quote: Wend
        With what promises, for example, have you been deceived?

        This, of course, is not a promise. But the constitution would have to be implemented. Especially since we have a constitution, a guarantor.

        There is no answer to the question
        1. Revival
          Revival 4 July 2020 01: 39
          +2
          25 million high-tech places where?
          Where are the May decrees from the first tale of 2012?
          And, I understand the situation in space has changed, and the rains were also out of season and so on.
    3. adler87
      adler87 3 July 2020 17: 52
      +9
      And retirement at 55, and your salary is 2700 dollars and an apartment of 100 square meters. Meters and workplace you have high-tech. Oh, and the dog, something around 1700 dollars, has already been forgotten.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 3 July 2020 18: 32
        0
        Ironically, it all started in the 2008th - in the same 2008 it crashed about the global economic crisis in the 2014th, all the Wishlist project 2020 were completely covered.
        1. Revival
          Revival 4 July 2020 01: 40
          +2
          Blown away for good reasons, clearly
        2. adler87
          adler87 4 July 2020 08: 09
          +5
          Yes? It turns out like. You know, I would understand if the salary was not 2700, but 2000 dollars, and the apartment is not 100 square meters. M , and 80, well, pensions of 1500 dollars. And we did not even partially see what was promised. And how is the whole president of a huge country throwing promises left and right, and every time he is interfering with me ... oh, oh, world crises. And pension reforms, three in my opinion, what prevents them? And why then the well-being of the elite of our country is only growing and growing, including the deputies: in the year 14, the salary was 160, now under 300 tr
    4. unaha
      unaha 3 July 2020 17: 53
      +5
      If next time: "If the leader of the country cannot change something based on the current situation", it will be necessary to completely abolish medicine, education, introduce class society and inherit the presidency - do not forget to "get into the position."
      1. Vend
        Vend 3 July 2020 18: 29
        -1
        Quote: unaha
        If next time: "If the leader of the country cannot change something based on the current situation", it will be necessary to completely abolish medicine, education, introduce class society and inherit the presidency - do not forget to "get into the position."
        You didn’t turn it there laughing how much medicine will be completely canceled in Russia can be seen in payments to doctors built in hospitals, and Britain and the USA refused medicine, Britain introduced emergency situations and on this basis refused medical insurance, and in the USA insurance does not cover such a disease, if you want to be treated for cady, pay . So what do you need for traps curators laughing
        1. unaha
          unaha 3 July 2020 22: 02
          0
          "So you need this for the traps of the curators" - I usually do not pass on to individuals, but you can probably somehow prove that I have "traps for the curators"? Otherwise, you are a banal yap.
          1. Revival
            Revival 4 July 2020 01: 41
            0
            Doubts?)
  • udincev
    udincev 3 July 2020 17: 08
    0
    Quote: Wend
    and to deceive people, as it was in the 90s, will no longer work.

    then what is happening now before your eyes as an unjustified, legalized continuation good or see something else?
    1. Vend
      Vend 3 July 2020 17: 33
      -1
      Quote: udincev
      Quote: Wend
      and to deceive people, as it was in the 90s, will no longer work.

      then what is happening now before your eyes as an unjustified, legalized continuation good or see something else?


      And what is the shrewdness you are our laughing
      1. Revival
        Revival 4 July 2020 01: 44
        0
        From you there evidence of Western curators asked
        Waiting for you to expose him.

        Quote: unaha
        "You can probably somehow prove that I have" traps for curators "? Otherwise, you are a banal yap.


        Or is it the second?
  • alone
    alone 3 July 2020 17: 13
    11
    Quote: Wend
    You can emit bile as much as you like, Russia cannot be destroyed and people are not deceived, as it was in the 90s.

    Well, about the collapse, of course, it’s hard to disagree .. but with deception, you certainly bent. ..Simple people have been deceived for 30 years .. and the 90s, and 2000s, and now hi
    1. Vend
      Vend 3 July 2020 17: 34
      -5
      Quote: lonely
      Quote: Wend
      You can emit bile as much as you like, Russia cannot be destroyed and people are not deceived, as it was in the 90s.

      Well, about the collapse, of course, it’s hard to disagree .. but with deception, you certainly bent. ..Simple people have been deceived for 30 years .. and the 90s, and 2000s, and now hi

      Well, what's the trick?
  • parusnik
    parusnik 3 July 2020 17: 41
    +2
    It will not be possible to destroy Russia and deceive people, as it was in the 90s, it will not work out.
    ... Wait, when were you deceived? When the EBN before the execution of the parliament proposed two referenda on its support and support for its reforms, they went to vote for it in orderly rows and columns, a large turnout was recorded and the majority supported it, and after the execution approved the proposed EBN Constitution, I wonder at what moment you and not only you were deceived, but you and not only you completely agreed then? Oh, you were fascinated by his fall from the bridge ... laughing
    1. Vend
      Vend 3 July 2020 18: 31
      -5
      Quote: parusnik
      It will not be possible to destroy Russia and deceive people, as it was in the 90s, it will not work out.
      ... Wait, when were you deceived? When the EBN before the execution of the parliament proposed two referenda on its support and support for its reforms, they went to vote for it in orderly rows and columns, a large turnout was recorded and the majority supported it, and after the execution approved the proposed EBN Constitution, I wonder at what moment you and not only you were deceived, but you and not only you completely agreed then? Oh, you were fascinated by his fall from the bridge ... laughing


      I did not vote then, so they did not deceive me. laughing
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 3 July 2020 17: 51
    -2
    Quote: Wend
    Russia cannot be destroyed and people fooled,

    It is contrary to your chief lord.
    1. Vend
      Vend 3 July 2020 18: 31
      -2
      Quote: Malyuta
      Quote: Wend
      Russia cannot be destroyed and people fooled,

      It is contrary to your chief lord.

      laughing grace ball blah laughing
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 3 July 2020 18: 59
        +2
        Quote: Wend
        grace ball blah

        Would you write something more articulate, or nothing?
  • Jager
    Jager 3 July 2020 18: 04
    +1
    Why cheat, KiselTV electorate happily absorbs.
  • NordUral
    NordUral 3 July 2020 19: 21
    +4
    Yesterday it turned out to deceive, Anatoly.
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 3 July 2020 21: 31
    +1
    Quote: Wend
    to deceive people, as it was in the 90s, it will not work

    How to say it. Reading the comments to some articles, you realize with surprise that the layer of people who are ready to deceive is very large. I just gave a hint about the fact that we must not forget the lessons of the 90s, the dirt with minuses immediately dumped the car. Here are just some of the "arguments": "It was a long time ago", "it's time to forget, we live in the 21st century", "we need to think about today" and similar reasoning in the same spirit. What am I saying, you are like that, here on VO and you yourself know.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 4 July 2020 09: 41
    +5
    Quote: Wend
    You can emit bile as much as you like, Russia cannot be destroyed and people are not deceived, as it was in the 90s.

    Who and in what began to deceive people after a quarter-century trampling on the spot? Who took the scepter for 20 years and turned over their promises?
    But you, you personally, hope that this chicken of old age will come to its senses and begin to lay “golden eggs” ...
    You don’t even have self-esteem - inspire us that the game of thimbles is the most honest and fair. I will not persuade you. Time will put everything in its place.
  • Pravodel
    Pravodel 4 July 2020 16: 46
    -2
    Liberas..there, banderlogs, Vlasovites, traitors, there is nothing left to do but to joke, otherwise you would have to saliva from anger and hang yourself.
  • Aleksey Aleksandrovich
    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 3 July 2020 16: 41
    +1
    And you don’t even know how to joke, apparently not to mention everything else hi
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 3 July 2020 16: 44
      +1
      Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
      And you don’t even know how to joke, apparently not to mention everything else hi

      Yes, it’s not a joke .. I see no reason. And laughter for no reason is a sign ... fools laughing
      1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
        Aleksey Aleksandrovich 3 July 2020 16: 58
        +6
        Then you all giggle ....
      2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 17: 24
        +1
        Yes, it’s not a joke .. I see no reason.

        Please tell us exactly what you lack in life.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 3 July 2020 18: 23
          +8
          Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
          Please tell us exactly what you lack in life.
          wink
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 18: 35
            0
            I think he's just lonely. From this and permanent oppression of the spirit.
          2. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 23: 04
            0
            This is our way!
  • Fungus
    Fungus 3 July 2020 16: 44
    +4
    We also know how to build icebreakers, airplanes, bridges and a bunch of everything. And you whine the offended laughing
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 3 July 2020 17: 20
      +5
      Quote: Fungus
      We also know how to build icebreakers, airplanes, bridges and a bunch of everything. And you whine the offended laughing

      Have you forgotten: "new schools and kindergartens, new buildings for universities, new libraries" But that's it, little things in life ...
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 3 July 2020 18: 34
        -2
        So it’s all the same they’re building a new one, about ten pieces a day are being handed over.
        1. Ded_Mazay
          Ded_Mazay 3 July 2020 18: 37
          +1
          Quote: Vadim237
          So it’s all the same they’re building a new one, about ten pieces a day are being handed over.

          One hundred and ten ... fool
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 3 July 2020 19: 23
          +4
          Fantasy read, Vadim?
      2. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 4 July 2020 06: 27
        -3
        no children, so no schools
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 3 July 2020 19: 15
      +3
      Quote: Fungus
      We also know how to build icebreakers, airplanes, bridges and a bunch of everything.

      This is what resurrection nullification does! 01.07.20/03.07.20/XNUMX began to slowly object, and XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX already know how.
      1 July 2020 20: 29
      Czech media: Putin may outperform Soviet leaders
      Quote: Fungus
      We began to slowly revive shipbuilding, aircraft manufacturing and a bunch of everything
    3. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 23: 06
      -1
      Quote: Fungus
      We also know how to build icebreakers, planes, bridges and a bunch of everything

      The most important thing is that each "object" is unique!
      Well, then he can’t add up the price!
  • paul3390
    paul3390 3 July 2020 16: 53
    +3
    We can only joke
    For example - to raise the retirement age another 5 years jokingly .. How, after the past outpouring of people's love for a guarantor .. And even in general, to cancel pensions - why do we need them with a kind of new cool constitution? Stick yourself yes, rejoice, until you die ..
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 3 July 2020 17: 09
      +7
      Yes, pensions, and so de facto, will be reset to zero, and the minimum salaries of the majority who in the 90s began the experience of documenting the experience in several dozen offices where a person worked he physically can not, then minimal and walk.
    2. 4ekist
      4ekist 3 July 2020 17: 36
      -4
      And where do you personally "work"? Moscow time -16.53, and you sit on topvar and "languish" from overwork.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 3 July 2020 18: 34
        +7
        Quote: 4ekist
        And where do you personally "work"? Moscow time -16.53, and you sit on topvar and "languish" from overwork.

        Your post would be relevant in the time of Andropov, when the cops in the store were enough for everyone of working age. And now, during the global web ... Don’t tell my slippers. Personally, my office on Friday runs until 16:45 ... bully
        1. 4ekist
          4ekist 3 July 2020 18: 50
          -5
          And then, in general, to cancel pensions - why do we need them under a sort of new classy constitution? Stick yourself yes, rejoice, until you die ..

          Well, do not work hard, do not work in your office, and rejoice. Why speak for everyone?
        2. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 23: 07
          0
          Quote: sabakina
          don't make my slippers laugh

          Long and long vacations are fashionable right now.
  • smart ass
    smart ass 3 July 2020 17: 02
    14
    And do not say, I also laughed, but only at the people. With penny reform, they threw men for 1 million rubles and 5 years of life, and the herd ate and galloped off to vote for further infringement of their rights))) here’s rzhaka)))) oh yes and the day after the vote the people got what ?! Correctly increase the cost of housing by 4% uraaaaa
    1. tatra
      tatra 3 July 2020 17: 10
      -1
      But still, it’s increasingly difficult for the authorities to falsify the opinion of the people. But with all this hysteria of Putin’s propagandists for several months, with all the stuffing, falsification, and the dropping of state employees, only half of the votes of Russian voters were able to cast Putin at this vote. The rest, like me, either did not want to participate in this farce, or voted against.
    2. sleeve
      sleeve 3 July 2020 17: 12
      +2
      You could not filter your speech. There is no herd here. There are people. Respect if you are human.
      1. Vend
        Vend 3 July 2020 17: 36
        -2
        Quote: sleeve
        You could not filter your speech. There is no herd here. There are people. Respect if you are human.


        Yes, he alone judges other people laughing
      2. smart ass
        smart ass 3 July 2020 17: 51
        +4
        In your opinion, if you walk on two legs are you human?
        1. sleeve
          sleeve 3 July 2020 17: 58
          -6
          Kangaroo, ostrich, chicken? Are there any other options for authentic belonging to an anotype?
          1. smart ass
            smart ass 3 July 2020 18: 01
            +6
            Choose who you like
    3. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 17: 33
      0
      Quote: Clever man
      With penny reform, they threw men at 1 million rubles and 5 years of life

      Tell us, too, why is retirement at sixty considered fair? Why not at fifty-five or fifty?
      1. smart ass
        smart ass 3 July 2020 17: 52
        +4
        I think for men retirement at 50 is the most it
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 18: 00
          0
          I think for men retirement at 50 is the most it

          In this case, it turns out that the Union chopped off the working people for a dozen years, having established retirement at sixty. Why don't you brand him?
          1. smart ass
            smart ass 3 July 2020 18: 01
            0
            Are you a senior citizen?
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 18: 09
              -2
              Come on?!! Do you really now start pompously broadcasting that, they say, only pensioners and pre-pensioners have the right to talk about pension reform? It’s a very so-so argument, but will pass for lack of a better one. But at least it's funny. I laughed!
              1. smart ass
                smart ass 3 July 2020 18: 10
                +2
                Well, of course, you want to work up to 100, preferably for free)
                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 18: 14
                  0
                  Quote: Clever man
                  Well, of course you want to work up to 100

                  An idle lifestyle is extremely boring and dull.
                  1. smart ass
                    smart ass 3 July 2020 18: 17
                    +3
                    I agree. Stop already driving it, get out of your comfort zone
                  2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 18: 20
                    -4
                    Quote: Clever man
                    Stop already driving it, get out of your comfort zone

                    Alas, my dear, you will not be able to guess.
        2. sabakina
          sabakina 3 July 2020 19: 00
          +5
          Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
          I think for men retirement at 50 is the most it

          In this case, it turns out that the Union chopped off the working people for a dozen years, having established retirement at sixty. Why don't you brand him?

          And why brand the USSR? For toilet paper in Ostankino sausage? (well, according to rumors in the kitchen), at the same time, our stomach quietly processes quinoa and nettles for soda, where there was nothing besides syrup, water and carbon dioxide ... For butter, which was butter, for milk, which turned sour on the second day...
          1. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 23: 10
            0
            Quote: sabakina
            And why brand the USSR? For toilet paper in Ostankino sausage?

            A beast without a shit and a belching no longer can eat the "creation" of Tupin stomach aggregators.
      2. Vend
        Vend 3 July 2020 18: 35
        -5
        Quote: Clever man
        I think for men retirement at 50 is the most it

        laughing laughing here is the real face of a loafer and a loser laughing
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 3 July 2020 18: 38
          +2
          It’s sad when there’s essentially nothing to say
        2. sabakina
          sabakina 3 July 2020 19: 09
          +5
          Quote: Wend
          Quote: Clever man
          I think for men retirement at 50 is the most it

          laughing laughing here is the real face of a loafer and a loser laughing

          And what to do Tolya, what to do .... Even scientists have recognized that a man is weaker biologically ... repeat
  • 4ekist
    4ekist 3 July 2020 17: 39
    -6
    And you wanted to live better and better? Our society has not yet created the basis for such a life, and it seems to me not yet soon.
    1. smart ass
      smart ass 3 July 2020 17: 53
      +2
      Our society is to blame, everything is clear)))
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 3 July 2020 23: 03
      -1
      Bravo! The only sensible comment. So yes: we deserve our government.
    3. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 23: 12
      -1
      Our society has not yet created the basis for such a life

      "Society" must work at its job. "To create" is the prerogative of the "state".
  • unaha
    unaha 3 July 2020 17: 56
    +2
    And you shouldn't forget about such "little things" about the VAT increase.
  • Revival
    Revival 4 July 2020 01: 54
    -1
    A people, one that, at least at the moment, should not have more than what it has.
    Not at all.
    And why all of a sudden?
    Well, for what?
    The people have enough of everything, they have everything, and even more than necessary.
    No?
    Something is imperceptible. The people are apparently happy, and therefore all the rules.
  • jovanni
    jovanni 3 July 2020 17: 17
    +4
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Wend
    Well, we know how to joke laughing

    We can only joke wassat

    Well, you're already joking ...
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  • credo
    credo 3 July 2020 16: 53
    +2
    Quote: Wend
    Well, we know how to joke laughing

    It was hardly a joke, as many thought.
    Just among the dates of state, professional and church holidays in Russia, the 4th of July, as the closest, turned out to be free.
    Judge for yourself:
    July 3 is the day of the traffic police (for which I congratulate all traffic cops)
    July 5 - Day of Morflot and Rechflot,
    July 6 is World Kiss Day
    July 7 - Ivan Kupala.
    So it was somehow not serious to appoint for July 6, although this is not an internal Russian holiday, but for July 8 it is very far from signing the law, therefore a free day was chosen - July 4. And let the US envy and drool over us.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 3 July 2020 16: 57
      -2
      I am proud of Presy dent ... not only pensioners can troll, but also America.
      1. DED_peer_DED
        DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 23: 14
        -2
        I also like the word - "Simpo winter". Cool.
    2. Vend
      Vend 3 July 2020 17: 37
      -3
      Quote: credo
      Quote: Wend
      Well, we know how to joke laughing

      It was hardly a joke, as many thought.
      Just among the dates of state, professional and church holidays in Russia, the 4th of July, as the closest, turned out to be free.
      Judge for yourself:
      July 3 is the day of the traffic police (for which I congratulate all traffic cops)
      July 5 - Day of Morflot and Rechflot,
      July 6 is World Kiss Day
      July 7 - Ivan Kupala.
      So it was somehow not serious to appoint for July 6, although this is not an internal Russian holiday, but for July 8 it is very far from signing the law, therefore a free day was chosen - July 4. And let the US envy and drool over us.

      Maybe you are right
    3. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 3 July 2020 17: 45
      0
      Quote: credo
      Just among the dates of state, professional and church holidays in Russia, the 4th of July, as the closest, turned out to be free.

      From the Deputy Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Olga Epifanova, a proposal was made to change the date of the celebration of Constitution Day - postponement to July 1 (main voting day for amendments).
      Is July 1 free?
      1. credo
        credo 3 July 2020 17: 56
        +2
        Quote: Mikhail M
        Is July 1 free?

        You don’t have enough holidays or you will celebrate Constitution Day as the New Year. Why focus on the banal stupidity of Epifanova, who is either trying to curry favor (although why should she do this when she is in her position) or crowing before everyone else so that they can hear.
        July 4, 2020 is set as the date of entry of amendments to the Constitution, but not as a separate holiday, therefore there is nothing to discuss here.
        And the stupidity of Epifanova only causes regret and the feeling that the State Duma has simply stopped thinking about the state, dealing with idle talk.
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 3 July 2020 17: 04
    0
    No one will notice such jokes. Flat humor from a person who does not know what an intelligent joke is.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 3 July 2020 17: 05
    -8
    Level 80 Trolling laughing
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 3 July 2020 18: 21
      0
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Level 80 Trolling laughing

      multi-way from a geopolitical strategist
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 3 July 2020 19: 19
        -1
        Check it out ...
        --------
        During the meeting of the president with the working group on constitutional amendments, Senator Alexei Pushkov told the head of state about this incident.

        “A flag was posted on the facade of the American embassy on the 24th, a rainbow flag, well, the LGBT flag. It was a kind of demonstration, ”said Pushkov.

        Putin specified who works in the building where the LGBT flag was posted. Pushkov replied that "Americans, American diplomats" are working there.

        "Well, okay. They showed something about who works there. It’s scary, ”the president joked. laughing
  • Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 3 July 2020 17: 40
    +4
    Quote: Wend
    Well, we know how to joke

    Interestingly, did the states realize that Putin was trolling them? Otherwise, the whole effect will remain inside us. And by the way, why is it suggested that the Constitution Day be celebrated on election day, and not on the day it comes into effect? Then it would be more logical to mark on the day the amendments are approved for voting.
    1. credo
      credo 3 July 2020 17: 46
      +1
      Quote: Michael m
      Quote: Wend
      Well, we know how to joke

      Interestingly, did the states realize that Putin was trolling them? Otherwise, the whole effect will remain inside us. And by the way, why is it suggested that the Constitution Day be celebrated on election day, and not on the day it comes into effect? Then it would be more logical to mark on the day the amendments are approved for voting.

      Although we have the Constitution and the Basic Law, I personally am against such a holiday as "Constitution Day". It is better if the laws are respected by everyone, without exception, and it is somehow not at all serious and not reasonable to arrange a holiday because of this.
      1. cniza
        cniza 3 July 2020 17: 57
        +3
        Yes, why let it be, only a working day, if it does not fall on Saturday and Sunday.
        1. convoy
          convoy 3 July 2020 18: 25
          -5
          Quote: cniza
          Yes, why let it be, only a working day, if it does not fall on Saturday and Sunday.

          I agree with you, Victor! The amendments are still serious and should change a lot in the life of Russia and its attitude to it .. Let's see ..
          We will not die alive hi
          1. cniza
            cniza 3 July 2020 19: 54
            +1
            Yes, Vitaly will not die! hi
            1. convoy
              convoy 3 July 2020 21: 13
              -4
              Quote: cniza
              Yes, Vitaly will not die! hi

              We live chew bread and prepare Victor .. wink
              1. cniza
                cniza 3 July 2020 21: 43
                0
                So thank God for that! ...
                1. convoy
                  convoy 3 July 2020 22: 12
                  -1
                  Quote: cniza
                  So thank God for that! ...

                  Hope for God, but don’t be bad yourself .. And then it will definitely help ..
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              2. NordUral
                NordUral 3 July 2020 19: 30
                +2
                I’ll impudently get in too. The echo of Matskwa is Putin’s organ.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 3 July 2020 19: 32
                  -3
                  I know that, the cat left the kittens, this is Putin's fault ...
                2. NordUral
                  NordUral 3 July 2020 19: 33
                  +4
                  The president, Eugene, who brazenly lies to his people, is to blame.
                3. Finches
                  Finches 3 July 2020 19: 53
                  -2
                  IN protects you from a direct question, you fool ..... to? I apologize!
                4. NordUral
                  NordUral 3 July 2020 21: 56
                  +1
                  I agree, Mr. Colonel! At first he hoped for HPP.
          2. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 23: 17
            -1
            Quote: NordUral
            The echo of Matskwa is Putin’s organ.

            Not. Not so simple. The task is performed. For their own.
    2. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 23: 16
      -1
      velododusheo

      Have a nice one you too...
  • Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 18: 42
    0
    Sea Cat (Constantine)
    Do you live not in Russia?
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 3 July 2020 18: 46
      0
      In her darling. Ryazan Oblast. So what?
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 18: 48
        0
        Quote: Sea Cat
        In her darling. Ryazan Oblast. So what?

        The "rectal opening" constantly have you, dear,

        It turns out that they also have you, since you will not get anywhere from the amendments, from the pension reform, or from the Russian government in general. Moreover, they have you without even being interested in your opinion, and so, like.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 3 July 2020 18: 51
          +4
          Absolutely, not a word against. But the whole difference between me and a client named Zyablitsov is that I understand that they have me in a perverse way, and he drags himself with delight. request
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 19: 03
            +2
            Quote: Sea Cat
            I understand that they have me in a perverted way, and he drags himself with delight. request

            But you, being unable to do anything about it, are forced to endure. Decades. However...
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 3 July 2020 19: 26
              +3
              And what to do, eternal question, have suggestions?
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 3 July 2020 19: 27
                +1
                And you, a young man, have nothing to do there, and they won’t let him go.
              2. Finches
                Finches 3 July 2020 19: 44
                -1
                I, grandfather, most likely in this life do not understand much and do not pretend to the truth in the last resort, but I have given my 25 years to serve the Motherland ... It’s bad, it's good not to judge me! And through this life section, there is something to compare. It is my choice! And I’ll say more, it will come to a fight, I will stand under the banner of GDP, but I, still a senior officer, commanded military units ... Maybe I’ll come in handy! I’ve seen people like you, they can’t command the soldiers ’squad, but they can always tell the Supreme Commander! laughing
              3. DED_peer_DED
                DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 23: 22
                -1
                I will stand under the banner of GDP, and I, still a senior officer

                That's why. Grandmas decide everything.
                Do you know how "senior ochofitserov" in the army like you?
                Not ?
                It would not hurt to ask. Survey unspoken to conduct.
                After Serdyuk, there are almost no normal "officeroffs" left in the army.
                About black-carriages, a separate topic.
          2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 19: 35
            0
            If a person is in some kind of extremely uncomfortable situation for him, he is trying to change this situation. But if he doesn’t try to change anything, then the situation is not so uncomfortable for him as he himself thinks.
          3. Catfish
            Catfish 3 July 2020 19: 39
            +1
            This question was specifically answered by the old Hvorobiev Ostap Bender. I will not quote, because I am sure that you are in the know. But I understood you: don’t whistle, if you sit in the hollow exactly and you can’t do anything. drinks
          4. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 19: 53
            -1
            "What doesn't kill me makes me stronger."
          5. Catfish
            Catfish 3 July 2020 20: 44
            +1
            If it weren’t just us. Children....
          6. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 20: 55
            0
            This applies to them equally. And you try not to dramatize the situation. What, everything is just so bad that even bear saints? Not. Will it be bad? I don’t think so, and you have no reason to think so, except for self-hypnosis. More love of life. Is it really that hard?
          7. Catfish
            Catfish 3 July 2020 21: 11
            +1
            I have only one answer for you with an old Soviet joke:
            Since the seventies, American trade unions argued with our colleagues that they would easily organize a strike with us.
            Ours, of course, answered that what the hell would come of it.
            The first of three attempts at the Moscow plant Stankolit them. Kuibyshev.

            They gathered people and are broadcasting from the rostrum that from tomorrow they will not pay money at all.
            In the morning they come, everyone works as if nothing had happened.

            Again the meeting and announce that there will be no days off and never.

            In the morning they come, everyone is working again.

            Once again, they convene a general meeting and announce:
            “Tomorrow morning, the Politburo ordered you all to hang yourself.” Any questions?
            From the back row a timid voice:
            - Do you bring the ropes yourself, or will the union provide?

            Do you still have questions?

            PS This is the question of love of life. My love for her did not cool down, in spite of attempts from the outside to take both that and the other.
  • Finches
    Finches 3 July 2020 19: 13
    +3
    Just returned from the barricades ... laughing laughing
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 3 July 2020 17: 59
    -2
    Quote: Sea Cat
    if besides this impudent type from impunity to the highest post of the country and invite no one else.

    Well said! good drinks
    1. Finches
      Finches 3 July 2020 18: 12
      0
      Kiss in the morning a portrait of Soros and a photo of Navalny ... Gorbachev and Yeltsin in the corner of the kitchen, above the refrigerator, hang for the place of the images ...? Oh well! laughing
      1. convoy
        convoy 3 July 2020 18: 20
        -3
        Quote: Finches
        Kiss in the morning a portrait of Soros and a photo of Navalny ... Gorbachev and Yeltsin in the corner of the kitchen, above the refrigerator, hang for the place of the images ...? Oh well! laughing

        good Great joke Eugene !!!!
        Well, my five cents ..))))

        Very iconic picture
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 3 July 2020 18: 48
          +4
          From a beggar at least something, but more than five cents did not work? What about the beloved GDP, he is the first liberal in our country, as at least he claims. laughing
        2. DED_peer_DED
          DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 23: 31
          0
          Quote: Konvoi
          Very iconic picture

          There are no Russians.
      2. Malyuta
        Malyuta 3 July 2020 18: 22
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        Kiss in the morning the portrait of Soros and the window of Navalny ... Gorbachev and Yeltsin in the corner of the kitchen, above the refrigerator, hang for the place of images ...? Oh well!

        What are you carrying??? Unlike you, I hate the person who builds ebony centers, gives grants to the ebony family and rewards labeled people with orders and honorary titles.
        And you have something to do with the soyal branch, it is necessary to treat.


      3. Catfish
        Catfish 3 July 2020 18: 36
        +4
        Well, what do you judge all by yourself again? Can send you a photo of zeroed out with a bare ass, and you will lick at your leisure. laughing
        1. Finches
          Finches 3 July 2020 18: 44
          0
          I have at least a Russian ass - unlike you! laughing
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 3 July 2020 18: 53
            +2
            I have at least a Russian ass - unlike you!

            Well, thank God, there is something to be proud of! laughing laughing laughing
            1. Finches
              Finches 3 July 2020 19: 03
              0
              Not yours, of course, sweet Anglo-Saxon, but we’ll go to our fangs ... laughing
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 3 July 2020 20: 57
                +3
                Zhen, what about the Anglo-Saxons? Nowhere without them, even in the toilet? Well, scream. by golly.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 4 July 2020 14: 29
                  +1
                  I hate fiercely Anglo-Saxons! laughing This is a fad of my insanity, but unfortunately, it is very close to reality ... From them everything is EVIL on earth!
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 4 July 2020 19: 32
                    +2
                    Hi, hi! He emerged from alcohol withdrawal, the guys from Moscow arrived: pilaf, back and forth, only overslept. I'm talking about the Angles and Saxons: all this garbage, all the EVIL in this world from fools, and they are international and indestructible. And they, that among the Angles that we have at home, are enough above any roof.
                  2. Phil77
                    Phil77 4 July 2020 20: 01
                    +2
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    , EVIL in this world is from fools, and they are international and indestructible

                    * Difficult to be a fool - too many competitors. * bully
                  3. Catfish
                    Catfish 4 July 2020 20: 04
                    +2
                    Seryozha, hi! But hell there, fools are always ahead of the treadmill! You can’t overtake them .. laughing
                  4. Phil77
                    Phil77 4 July 2020 20: 15
                    +1
                    Good evening Konstantin! And the people have an answer to this!
                    * The paradox is when 90 percent of the population believes that they live in a country of fools. And just as many do not consider themselves fools. * negative
                  5. Finches
                    Finches 4 July 2020 20: 17
                    0
                    , if also Anglo-Saxon, this is an absolute EVIL!
                  6. Catfish
                    Catfish 4 July 2020 22: 45
                    +1
                    Zhenya, you’re soooooo ... rest and calm down. Come to our village, sit, drink, and everything will settle down. True, I invite you, why tear something, drink, talk, maybe it is necessary?
                  7. Finches
                    Finches 4 July 2020 22: 47
                    +1
                    Thank you! hi It is always necessary!
                  8. Catfish
                    Catfish 4 July 2020 22: 53
                    +2
                    Zhenya, I seriously, we are not enemies, while we mate here. all this bastard only rejoices at it gazedly. In short, you'll be in Ryazan, beacon to me.
            2. Phil77
              Phil77 4 July 2020 20: 21
              +1
              And by the way, I read about the new initiative of the head woman of Russia, Lakhova? Ban ice cream * Rainbow *! Why? But do you think she has certain associations! And what about the new BMW trade mark?
            3. Phil77
              Phil77 4 July 2020 20: 29
              +1
              Controversial statement. There is an old joke about the second place in the competition, well, let's call this event a competition of fools. laughing
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 3 July 2020 19: 46
    +1
    Quote: Sea Cat
    Well, thank God, there is something to be proud of! laughing laughing laughing

    Last shrine wassat
  • NordUral
    NordUral 4 July 2020 13: 03
    +1
    I have at least a Russian ass - unlike you! laughing

    Just ass? Not much.
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 23: 24
    +1
    [quote] Soros and a photo of Navalny / quote]
    And how do you know these names?
    Are they your sponsors?
  • Finches
    Finches 3 July 2020 17: 42
    +2
    Uncle Vova is beautiful! And let the pigs and their miscarriages, heaped, which became on my favorite VO site, like there are a lot of fleas on the yard dog, they throw minuses, I repeat, Uncle Vova is beautiful!
    1. Finches
      Finches 3 July 2020 17: 53
      +2
      The first bug went! laughing
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 3 July 2020 18: 05
      +1
      Well, if you call a man "handsome", then there's nothing more to talk about.
      The color flag is in your hands.
      1. Finches
        Finches 3 July 2020 18: 27
        -2
        This is a picture about you, but it’s beautiful, you’re still young to see a person ... However, I’ll explain the logic to you, since there’s nothing to compare you with, though you’re 68 years old, but apparently in Bohemia they have been hanging out since childhood, or lying. I’ll explain on a primitive basis, maybe you’re against Putin, then against a traditional family, then against fundamental Slavic values, against mom and dad ... So you are for the Anglo-Saxons with their rainbow flag on the walls of embassieslaughing God be with him, with the passage, this is a personal matter for everyone, but you are against Russia, you are a national traitor, my friend!
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 3 July 2020 18: 43
          +5
          I’m actually the 47th birth goal, my young friend. And I’m not my friend, but the fault of your parents that they once regretted the chervonets for abortion, and as a result you crawled out into the world.
          Loving Russia does not mean licking the ass of the authorities, but it is useless to explain this to you, because when God handed out brains to newborns, you were obviously in another line. With which I congratulate you. If you believe that the "Slavic values" are in complete immobility, then live with it.
          There, the cow is grazing in the meadow, and quite happy with it. Just like you.
          1. Finches
            Finches 3 July 2020 18: 56
            -1
            It was not about your birth date ... Then everything is clear with you, you started selling your homeland even under Khrushchev! I must say that you like have made great strides in this field ... but respecting your age, God will judge you .. . hi
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 3 July 2020 20: 54
              +5
              About Khrushchev and God is not necessary. He served with military service under one, and, glory to him, we were commanded by the generals who went through the Great War, who until the second - did not believe, I do not believe, and explained to the children that believing in the intangible is simply stupid.
              Now about the Slavic spirit: all this is nonsense, my late father was a party worker in a good position, a peasant with practically no education, my mother was from serving nobles, a doctor, the Leningrad blockade, a captain of the medical service, and what? Does everyone have a Slavic spirit? Yes, my father, for all his fanaticism of the "old Bolshevik" for this spirit was ... well, you understand.
              Zhenya, you either deliberately write all these nonsense, or, alas, you yourself are such that you cannot even think. I regret.
          2. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 3 July 2020 19: 48
            0
            Quote: Sea Cat
            I’m actually the 47th birth goal,

            Quote: Sea Cat
            Loving Russia does not mean licking the ass of power, but it’s useless to explain it to you, because when the Lord handed out brains to newborns, you obviously stood in a different line

            47 years old what And how many times during this time the little hand in a single impulse stretched unanimously FOR !? Or all life with a fig near a member?
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 3 July 2020 20: 43
              -3
              Quote: Ruslan67
              You say 47 years. And how many times during this time the little arm in a single impulse stretched unanimously FOR !? Or all life with a fig near a member?

              In the clowns pulled themselves .. I'm talking about the avatar laughing You always I noticed creep in .. tie
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 3 July 2020 22: 02
                0
                Quote: Svarog
                tie up

                Turn up arm-tie wassat
                Quote: Svarog
                You always noticed I crawl ..

                Sin does not drag on ...... Well, you understand yes
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 3 July 2020 22: 03
                  +1
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  Turn up arm-tie

                  Own language wassat
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  Sin does not drag on ...... Well, you understand

                  Do you believe
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 3 July 2020 22: 05
                    0
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Do you believe

                    What time? Specify what
    3. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 3 July 2020 18: 34
      +5
      I do not belong to sowing and bulk. Minus from me solely for the presentation of thought.
      1. Finches
        Finches 3 July 2020 18: 53
        -2
        Well, excuse me generously for not meeting your expectations of meeting Schopenhauer in my face! You know how .... (untranslatable puns) ...... (untranslatable puns)!
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 3 July 2020 20: 44
          0
          Quote: Finches
          Well, excuse me generously for not meeting your expectations of meeting Schopenhauer in my face! You know how .... (untranslatable puns) ...... (untranslatable puns)!

          Yes, Eugene, you also disappointed me ..
    4. Karabin
      Karabin 3 July 2020 21: 24
      +2
      Quote: Finches
      I repeat, Uncle Vova is beautiful!

      Oh, the anti-Gay amendment went to dust. And two days did not last laughing
    5. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 23: 29
      +2
      Quote: Finches
      Uncle Vova is beautiful!

      Is he the same, or NOT HE?
      Krasava "our"?
  • Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 3 July 2020 18: 35
    0
    over ourselves?
  • NordUral
    NordUral 3 July 2020 19: 25
    0
    Yes, with the percentage of those who came and who voted - a cool joke.
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  • Letun
    Letun 4 July 2020 14: 11
    0
    Quote: Wend
    Well, we know how to joke laughing

    I am sure that Putin should be deeply laid on this day of US independence, a stupidly ordinary coincidence. Do you seriously think that the USA is going to hurt this? laughing
    Here is the word of honor, the mentality of our smaller brothers from the yellow-black country is the same as yours. The only difference is that Russia is to blame for everything, and everything needs to be done in its favor, and you think America is petty salt. I assure you, they won’t even notice it. But the main thing is to collect likes! lol
  • eklmn
    eklmn 5 July 2020 03: 44
    0
    Trolling, mockery, sarcasm is good when one knows / hears it / those for whom it was created. It’s like on stage - a joke was uttered, the joker laughed, and in the hall there was silence.
    The mistake of the Russian layman is that he believes that if the amers in the Russian media and irons are 24/7, then the same is about the USA in Russia, then they are mistaken. I must disappoint the average man - they don’t know anything about you, Russia! And they deeply spit what is being taken there on July 4 in Russia or elsewhere.
    Sorry, nothing personal, they don’t know about you ... request
  • Fungus
    Fungus 3 July 2020 16: 32
    +1
    Great trolling laughing Americans wrote to us the past constitution.
    1. Bomb
      Bomb 3 July 2020 16: 56
      +4
      There is their money, there is their family. You are like a little child.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 17: 36
        0
        Quote: Bomb
        There is their money, there is their family

        If so, then why do Americans allow Russia to act strongly independently?
        Or, in fact, everything is agreed with Washington, but no one knows about this? Just another conspiracy theological theory, hehe!
        Somehow, "our elite" is acting completely ineffectively, despite the fact that families and money are held hostage by the Americans.
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 3 July 2020 19: 37
      -1
      But textually, it is more similar to the French one, and in the sections on the federal structure partly to the German and Indian.
  • Smolin
    Smolin 3 July 2020 16: 35
    -13 qualifying.
    Very subtle trolling.
    Now, simultaneously with America, every year on July 1 there will be a common Holiday, America is Independence Day, and Vladimir Vladimirovich and his entourage will celebrate the Extension of His Board for Life on this day.
    1. Fungus
      Fungus 3 July 2020 16: 45
      +2
      Does it burn? It's fine smile
  • Asad
    Asad 3 July 2020 16: 45
    19
    Does all Russia remember the Independence Day of the USA? I didn’t read it and didn’t remember!
    1. BARKAS
      BARKAS 3 July 2020 16: 57
      +1
      I remember a movie like that.
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 3 July 2020 16: 45
    -5
    July 1 should be the Independence Day of our Constitution from the principles and norms of the US hegemon.
    1. unaha
      unaha 3 July 2020 17: 59
      0
      "July 1 should become the Day of independence of our Constitution from the principles and norms of the US hegemon" - no, simply: "from the principles and norms."
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 3 July 2020 19: 26
      0
      Yes, many prevented getting up from their knees ... And the Pechenegs, and the Polovtsy, and the principles and norms.
  • HAM
    HAM 3 July 2020 16: 51
    0
    My aunt decided to put up, because few people know Olga Epifanova, and now the whole country knows ..... beautiful ... a giant of thought ..
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 3 July 2020 16: 56
    -1
    US Independence Day will be a holiday in Russia. Is Russia celebrating Bush’s birthday on June 12, or is it trolling from Yeltsin?
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 3 July 2020 17: 10
    -5
    The president does not have much time to exercise basic constitutional rights. If he does not use it, then the question of "life-long rule" will not be relevant.
  • Well done
    Well done 3 July 2020 17: 11
    0
    If you consider that July 4 is Saturday, then this is really trolling)
  • convoy
    convoy 3 July 2020 17: 13
    -10 qualifying.
    Ah yes Putin, oh yes podkolshchik .. But in fact, in fact, we are now independent .. Because the old constitution was written actually under the dictation of the United States
    And I also think our nuclear triad will also congratulate the United States)))
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 3 July 2020 19: 22
      +1
      Quote: Konvoi
      But in fact, we are now independent

      What are Putin’s failures to blame for now?
      1. convoy
        convoy 3 July 2020 19: 59
        -6
        Quote: Karabin
        Quote: Konvoi
        But in fact, we are now independent

        What are Putin’s failures to blame for now?

        For you, of course) ..Although some failures are interesting?
        I do not like? suitcase train station america ..
        Do you remember? Only there you have to get on your knees and especially do not arise heh heh ..)))

        Or have you been there for a long time Yurok? wink
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 3 July 2020 20: 18
          +3
          Vitaly hello. Alive smoking room. With a new nickname you. I look at the wave of amendment, even in the rank you grow.
          Quote: Konvoi
          I do not like? America station suitcase. Or have you been there for a long time Yurok?.
          No, still here. The State Department is slowly on the West Siberian lowland. And bring down the bill ..
          1. convoy
            convoy 3 July 2020 21: 09
            -5
            Quote: Karabin
            Vitaly hello. Alive smoking room. With a new nickname you. I look at the wave of amendment, even in the rank you grow.

            For one day)))))) Hello! Where am I going to get away from you .... And you are from me))
            Quote: Karabin
            No, still here. The State Department is slowly on the West Siberian lowland. And bring down the bill ..

            Everywhere you dug in .. laughing I am in the Urals! I hope in the back do not hit Kolchakovo divisions ..? (joke)))
  • Svetlana
    Svetlana 3 July 2020 17: 15
    +2
    The date of Constitution Day is not very good to change. After 50 years, for example, the surrounding world will change and new amendments will be made to the Constitution, which is completely normal, and so what? Change the date of the holiday again?
    Not not not .. stability should be in seemingly small things.
  • udincev
    udincev 3 July 2020 17: 21
    -1
    Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
    Quote: Arlen
    Do you think people with retirement age are not deceived?

    So consider only very, to put it mildly, foolish people ...
    yes By the way, in the amendments, note that the concept of "pension" was finished off with a control shot. Now, we must understand that it is possible not only to raise the retirement age, but also to abolish it in general on economic or any other invented (practice shows that this is not a problem at all) reasons. tongue
  • Junior Warrant Officer
    Junior Warrant Officer 3 July 2020 17: 23
    -1
    Now it became clear to me that the previous Constitution did not allow us to do:
    - receive modern education;
    - create a normal health care system;
    - provide reliable social protection of citizens;
    - have effective power accountable to society;
    - work for a country that can be passed on to our children and grandchildren;
    - truth and justice;
    - respect the person of work;
    - take care of children, their moral and spiritual education;
    - stability;
    - security;
    - well-being and dignified life of people;
    - develop;
    - take care of the homeland;
    - respect your story;
    - preserve culture, native language and traditions;
    - Remember our achievements and accomplishments of our ancestors.
    From July 4, oh how we will live!
  • Wolf
    Wolf 3 July 2020 17: 28
    +4
    3. Julia Knez SVYATOSLAV, defeated Khazaria, and 4. Julia ............. smile
  • udincev
    udincev 3 July 2020 17: 41
    -3
    Quote: Whirlwind
    July 1 should be the Independence Day of our Constitution from the principles and norms of the US hegemon.

    Come on with June-July and the day of unity against the Mongol-Tatars. Since the communist social society is recognized as the most progressive today, it is necessary to repent before the ancestors who sacrificed themselves for the sake of the "bright future" (now crammed into their pockets by ghouls, pleasing us with amendments and other manipulations - if only not to answer for what they did) of future generations ( like you and me) and return by November 7th.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 3 July 2020 22: 58
      -6
      Who is this communist social society recognized as the most progressive? Is it really North Korea? Nothing that this most progressive turned out to be the most unviable?
  • Freeman
    Freeman 3 July 2020 17: 44
    -2
    Putin is clearly a troll The USA, after all, on July 4 they are going to celebrate the next Independence Day.

    Quote: credo
    Quote: Wend
    Well, we know how to joke laughing

    It was hardly a joke, as many thought.
    Just among the dates of state, professional and church holidays in Russia, the 4th of July, as the closest, turned out to be free.
    Judge for yourself:
    July 3 is the day of the traffic police (for which I congratulate all traffic cops)
    July 5 - Day of Morflot and Rechflot,
    July 6 is World Kiss Day
    July 7 - Ivan Kupala.
    So it was somehow not serious to appoint for July 6, although this is not an internal Russian holiday, but for July 8 it is very far from signing the law, therefore a free day was chosen - July 4. And let the US envy and drool over us.

    Quote: Welldone
    If you consider that July 4 is Saturday, then this is really trolling)


    You don’t even suspect how high this trolling (or a joke) is.

    On the first Saturday of July, "International Day of Cooperatives" is celebrated.
    This holiday is established by the UN, and is celebrated on the first Saturday of July.
    In 2020, the first Saturday of July falls on the 4th.
    Let me remind you that V.Putin is one of the founders of the Ozero cooperative
    "Lake" is a summer cottage consumer cooperative on the shores of Komsomolsky Lake (Priozersky District) in the middle of the Karelian Isthmus, near the village of Solovyovka (Leningrad Region). Established on November 11, 1996 by Vladimir Putin and his friends; after Putin was elected president of Russia in 2000, all of them occupied leading administrative posts in the country.
    / wiki /

    "Coincidence? I don’t think " wassat laughing / sarcasm /
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 3 July 2020 17: 46
    -3
    We’ll scan such amendments as 2020. One prince is not needed, and a stable economy and a breakthrough in geopolitics are lack of prospects ..
  • udincev
    udincev 3 July 2020 17: 47
    -1
    Quote: Dead Day
    ... not only pensioners can troll, but also America.
    But, I must admit, with retirees he somehow more effectively succeeds.
  • mark2
    mark2 3 July 2020 17: 54
    -4
    And now a little arithmetic.
    We consider the percentage of the total population.
    We will accept everyone who can vote according to the law for 100 units. Then 65 units voted. Of these, 75% are 50.7 units. Total of the entire population confidently voted FOR only half the population.
    The votes of those who did not vote were distributed proportionally.
    Question: What the hell, those who were against it and consider all the protesters from the remaining 35% of the population did not go to the polls? AND? now again you will be bored and proud that you did not vote? And they could equalize the chances. And who knows if they would accept the amendments or not.
    Clowns
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 3 July 2020 18: 35
      +2
      Quote: mark2
      And they could equalize the chances

      That is unlikely. When voting, ten accounts will not work.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 3 July 2020 18: 11
    +2
    With his feeble mind, he realized the following: the American agent Yeltsin slipped the peoples of the Russian Federation a pro-American constitution, for which the majority voted and nobody noticed this deception from the voters. He deceived naive and gullible Russians. Then the above agent transferred power to a receiver. The American agent built the Yeltsin Center. After 27 years, the receiver decided to throw off the "American yoke", probably because in the American horde there was a "jam", the blacks rebelled. And amendments and changes were developed to the pro-American constitution. Winter Olympics-4 .. Trolling in what?
  • Reader 2013
    Reader 2013 3 July 2020 18: 13
    +1
    And they will notice it
  • Tomich3
    Tomich3 3 July 2020 18: 16
    -2
    It’s only capable of trolling. Nothing more, pale moth.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 July 2020 18: 36
      -1
      If it is a pale mole - then you are generally an atom.
      1. Tomich3
        Tomich3 3 July 2020 18: 57
        -2
        I do not associate myself with this pale moth. And you can consider yourself even an atom, even a serf.
      2. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 3 July 2020 19: 18
        +1
        Vadim No. And you yourself think for a silly woman you think
      3. St Petrov
        St Petrov 4 July 2020 01: 35
        -5
        Volodya offended the Patriots. Vadim, hold on, they ..had a grudge
  • Tagan
    Tagan 3 July 2020 18: 24
    +1
    Quote: tatra
    Yes, Putin’s propagandists came up with a good excuse, starting with Peskov in style. Well, he promised that then, but now everything has changed. But no matter how you otmazyvatsya Putin, he proved to everyone that his promises can not be trusted.

    You forgot to mention the enemies of the communists. And who can you believe in the current Communists?
  • GUSAR
    GUSAR 3 July 2020 18: 42
    +5
    This is certainly fine, but he also said that we need a new influx of migrants ...
    1. 4ekist
      4ekist 3 July 2020 19: 25
      0
      Migrants are definitely not needed.
  • XBT
    XBT 3 July 2020 18: 51
    +1
    Oh, the Russians, whose will you be? Do not see you freedom.
  • udincev
    udincev 3 July 2020 18: 55
    -2
    Quote: Vadim237
    Wishlist project 2020 finally covered.

    Zeroed due to zeroing completely. We are waiting for new impossible Wishlist.
    You have to understand that sovereignty, dignity, independence ... from this series?
    We don’t draw on economic and material promises, since Forbes is not enough for the outstripping growth of domestic income. So it is not promising. Or everything is ahead tongue
  • Adimius38
    Adimius38 3 July 2020 20: 09
    +4
    where does the amendment and the US Independence Day ???? pushed the amendments under the guise - rejoice, especially the residents of Transbaikalia and the like, who have 88% FOR, only run in whole trains with suitcases from their "comfortable" regions
  • cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 3 July 2020 20: 48
    +6
    Now July 4th, every year the United States belay will celebrate and salute in honor of the adoption of amendments to the Constitution of Russia good
    1. convoy
      convoy 3 July 2020 21: 20
      -4
      Quote: cat Rusich
      Now July 4th, every year the United States belay will celebrate and salute in honor of the adoption of amendments to the Constitution of Russia good

      So it will be now ..))))

      Note that only African Americans were actively filming on their mobile phones. bully
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 3 July 2020 21: 29
      +2
      Quote: cat Rusich
      Now July 4, every year the United States will celebrate and salute

      Now in Russia everyone will know the date of the day of independence of the USA
  • Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 3 July 2020 20: 53
    +1
    As for the postponement of the Constitution Day, I support it.
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 21: 10
    -1
    It’s about Relatives: I don’t go past the mother-in-law at home ..... then ... then ....
    Well, further down the text. All in the know.
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 21: 14
    -3
    Nothing confuses this paradigm shift?


    skull shape, lip shape, eyes, reaction of Putin's wife and her loss ....?

    Here is a more vivid example of questions -
    1. flicker
      flicker 4 July 2020 02: 02
      +4
      Nothing confuses this paradigm shift?
      Even as embarrassing, in this ... in the paradigm.
      The tie is different, the hair is tidy, and the suit is like another.
      bully
      ---
      I think it makes sense to look at myself today and compare it with a photo of 18 year old daanost.
      Who knows, maybe something will change in its paradigm?
      belay
  • udincev
    udincev 3 July 2020 21: 51
    -1
    Quote: Wend
    Quote: udincev
    then what is happening now before your eyes as an unjustified, legalized continuation good or see something else?


    And what is the shrewdness you are our laughing

    Easier to find where there is no deception. Smiling you are mine love . Initially, turning everything upside down and fooling people, you have to lie in everything. Take the claim that the main means of combating coronavirus now is the introduction of a tax on the savings of citizens of 2021 in 2022. Something like this approximately. Moreover, as Peskov explained, decisions were difficult, and it cost the authorities uncompromising disputes in a sleepless night. drinks Not talking about the vinaigrette of amendments to the unfulfilled constitution. fellow
  • udincev
    udincev 3 July 2020 22: 17
    -3
    Quote: Wend
    There is no answer to the question

    Do you live on the moon? Take any May decrees (executed by 100, but not to the point), take a look at any promises of the future bright life of the presidential conferences and addresses. In addition to the little things "fulfillment of desires" the magician is seriously unable to fulfill anything. Oh yes, he is hindered by the legs of other dancers and his own moorings (obligations?). And now.!.!.!.
  • wellaut
    wellaut 3 July 2020 22: 28
    +2
    One consolation is that he is not immortal.
  • veritas
    veritas 3 July 2020 22: 31
    0
    Nobody trolls better than our president .. We need to organize a public office where the main troll will be, and Rogozin is perfect for Zama ..
  • DED_peer_DED
    DED_peer_DED 3 July 2020 22: 36
    +2
    The fact that the people, in addition to the coronavirus in our time is no longer ill with anything, we have already been proved.
    Many people and entire industries worked on this in a single burst of world coronabesia.
    To die from coronavirus is unproven in almost nothing, but - to die with coronavirus (with helments, with sugar, with heart failure, with immunodeficiency disease, with hepatitis .... iii) die of old age, but you can always enroll in the "fashionable" coronavirus.
    Dope?
    Definitely a dope.
    Track deaths from previous infections: Blue Nile Fever, Avian Flu, Bat Flu, Ebolla Fever.
    Feel better?
    I think no. The difference in mortality is several orders of magnitude, but the difference is in the "boil" .... mom - do not cry.
    So, what's the secret - "coronavirus"?
    His secret is in his time of appearance.
    The world behind the scenes (yes, it is she) at the moment is waiting for the "coming of his messiah", capable of saving ALL the peoples of the world from lawlessness and unrest with wars, together and give the Jews power over the whole world and every soul.
    The peoples must prepare for such an acceptance.
    Everyone should be convinced of the complete lack of rights and lawlessness of the current "authorities".
    The United States presents us with a lively and current example !!!
    All peoples must believe that the arrival of the "king of the earth" will be able to solve all the accumulated problems of all the peoples of the whole world, once and for all !!!
    On earth, you can create the Paradise of God without the participation of God, on your own. But, with the participation of its opposite - Satan.
    It is he who, incarnated into the body of an earthly person, will "preach" to us another paradise, earthly and under his authority.
    Since this enemy is clever and crafty, he will be able to deceive and attract many people, even those who earlier believe and worship the One God, Christ and the Great Trinity.
    He will present himself in the form of God, in the form of Christ and in the form of three more truths. By this it can be recognized. He will have 5 I. He will declare them.
    Watch out, brothers. This time is right for years with us.
    The Jews will crown him to the world kingdom in Jerusalem.
    This will be presented to us as the salvation of the world.
    Each watched procedure on TV will fall under its influence and cannot be saved.
    TV in the furnace with his demonic news. Amenu
  • MichMish99
    MichMish99 3 July 2020 22: 44
    0
    Wow! May an association arise.
  • udincev
    udincev 3 July 2020 23: 26
    +3
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Who is this communist social society recognized as the most progressive? Is it really North Korea? Nothing that this most progressive turned out to be the most unviable?
    There is such an authoritative scientist Alexander Zinoviev. The author of logical sociology and is now a Man-legend.
    You can call North Korea whatever you want, but "not viable"! - is contrary to common sense.
  • Volder
    Volder 4 July 2020 00: 58
    0
    Well, who is the author of this opus? Not a word is said about "zeroing" the presidential terms in the new Constitution. If it is said - excerpts from there to the studio! If I were the author, I would not subscribe to such a lie either.
    1. udincev
      udincev 4 July 2020 12: 50
      0
      Quote: Volder
      If it says - excerpts from there to the studio!

      Art. 81
      On the procedure for the election of the President of the Russian Federation.
      .
      3. One and the same person may not hold the office of the President of the Russian Federation for more than two terms.

      31. The provision of subsection 3 (81) of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, which limits the number of terms during which the same person can hold the office of the President of the Russian Federation, applies to a person who holds and (or) holds the office of the President of the Russian Federation, without taking into account the number of terms, during which he held and (or) holds this position at the time the amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation enters into force, introducing a corresponding restriction, and does not exclude the possibility for him to hold the office of the President of the Russian Federation for the periods allowed by the provision.
      .
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  • flicker
    flicker 4 July 2020 02: 11
    0
    Mikheev:
    “On the Internet, the opposition defeated everyone. On the Internet, the pre-revolutionary situation, on the Internet, they defeated Putin ten times by knockout. On the Internet they have a completely different picture of the world. In reality, we see

    80% for amendments initiated by Putin. wassat
    ---
  • Sofa expert
    Sofa expert 4 July 2020 02: 22
    +1
    Quote: Nikolay87
    Quote: KAV
    Quote: Svarog
    We have a population decline in a small city per year ..

    And you were warned about this, the President himself has repeatedly said this. Have you ever met a demographic pit of the 90s in the open? This pit is now coming around.

    If in the 90s the reasons for the population decline are clear, then what is the reason now? The pit goes around ?! lol Why is mortality now higher than the birth rate? Girls are missing or what? If everything is fine, then everything should go uphill .... which AU, which ECHO?
    Or in the USSR, the pit came around only after 50 years?

    I will answer by my own example, I do not have children because of a lack of trust in the authorities, medicine, education ... I am 33
  • Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 4 July 2020 03: 45
    -1
    Well, so everything is logical! Independence Day is declared Independence from the United States. Everything is correct! good
  • U-58
    U-58 4 July 2020 05: 39
    +2
    Shadow of independence
  • kig
    kig 4 July 2020 06: 14
    +2
    It would be necessary for the States to tell which of the trolls.
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 4 July 2020 08: 17
    0
    Now we will celebrate both June 12 and July 4?
  • makasan34
    makasan34 4 July 2020 18: 00
    -1
    And make July 4 a constitution day
  • Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 4 July 2020 21: 35
    +1
    The true independence of Russia will come on the day when Russia receives a central bank independent of the IMF and the Fed and a ruble independent of the dollar. But something tells us that this will not happen in our lifetime.
  • demo
    demo 5 July 2020 09: 20
    0
    President trolling: Putin has appointed constitutional amendments to come into force on US Independence Day.

    Is there a reaction from the Americans?
    Where are their vicious demands to punish Russia for doing so?
    Where are the sanctions?
    Where is the poem translated into English:
    "... How dare you with your unclean snout, here pure drink muddy mine? ..."
    Not visible?
    It means that the Americans are purple about what, how and when Russia and its "permanent sentry" are doing.

    You should not live in children's illusions that the entire Universe revolves around you.
    It’s time to grow up.
  • fider
    fider 5 July 2020 14: 27
    -2
    And how much will Trump appoint the imposition of new sanctions against Russia? laughing