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US official urges Russia to abandon the "terrible" weapons "Petrel" and "Poseidon"

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From the United States, I heard more calls to Russia on the issue of the latest armory developments. At the same time, calls, as is usually the case with American rhetoric, are more reminiscent of demands.


The US President’s Special Envoy for Arms Control said the Russian Petrel and Poseidon projects are “terrible.”

M. Billingsley:

Russia should at least postpone the implementation of Skyfall (the American designation for "Petrel") and Poseidon, abandoning it now. This is a waste of money for Russia, since the new agreement, which will replace START III, will still ban these weapons.

A statement by an American official followed after Sweden announced an increase in radiation background. Exceeded the level of cesium-134 and 137, as well as ruthenium 103. The Swedish media said that the increase in radiation levels may be due to radiation emissions in Russia. The “ejection” itself was associated with “a possible test by Russia of the latest weapons.”

M. Billingsley said that he could not say exactly what the responsibility of Russia is in increasing the background radiation, but if tests were carried out, then "Russia is going the wrong way."

Recall that the “Petrel” is a promising Russian cruise missile of virtually unlimited range. This range is provided by the presence of a nuclear power plant. Earlier in the US, it was stated that Russia does not have the latest weapons, and everything shown during President Putin’s message is “nothing more than an animation”.
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 3 July 2020 09: 02 New
    20
    The scarecrow the Wise would say this:
    - If I had brains, I would first ask the neighbors - Norway, Finland and Denmark. If everything is fine with them (and they don’t hear any allegations of abnormality), then you should look for the cause at home.
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 3 July 2020 09: 03 New
      31
      At first they buried the previous agreement, they say that there will be no new one, and now they suddenly rely on the future in arguments.
      1. KAV
        KAV 3 July 2020 09: 14 New
        20
        a new agreement to replace START III will still ban these weapons
        What a blithe self-confidence! Shish without oil to you, not fulfilling your requirements!
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 3 July 2020 09: 21 New
          26
          laughing above the gray plain of the sea the wind collects clouds. Between the clouds and the sea the Petrel proudly roars, like a black lightning ............ May the storm strike more strongly!
          1. CBR600
            CBR600 3 July 2020 09: 50 New
            12
            thanks, to the point! the petrel of black lightning proudly flies like. Well here we read about him, THING !!
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 3 July 2020 10: 00 New
              +3
              Quote: CBR600
              thanks, to the point! the petrel of black lightning proudly flies like. Well here we read about him, THING !!

              And I myself have repeatedly addressed the topic Petrel !!!!!!!!!
              For example:

              But the petrel will fly in the darkness
              To return the world to the Soviet canons!
              Its claws --- like a harpy’s,
              And the wings --- like a dragon!
              2020, March.
          2. tikhonov66
            tikhonov66 3 July 2020 12: 34 New
            +9
            we were born to make the cartoon come true ...
            1. tikhonov66
              tikhonov66 3 July 2020 12: 36 New
              -1
              and believe us - for every ultimatum
              Soyuzmulfilm will be able to give an ANSWER
              1. tikhonov66
                tikhonov66 3 July 2020 12: 41 New
                -3
                Farther and deeper and higher
                We strive for the flight of our birds
                And in every "cartoon" breathes
                Tranquility of our borders!
                1. Odessa Greek
                  Odessa Greek 3 July 2020 12: 56 New
                  +5
                  How puffed up, how you try to burp the muck ...... Pay well? What do you take in green or paper hryvnias?)))) Although it is possible for cookies, it’s difficult for the Europeans to have hryvnias - everyone is waiting for a loan from the IMF)))
              2. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 3 July 2020 13: 13 New
                +1
                Quote: tikhonov66
                and believe us - for every ultimatum
                Soyuzmulfilm will be able to give an ANSWER

                wassat lol that would be great! Than our children to score a head with foreign heroes! Awesome by some negative repeat
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 3 July 2020 09: 33 New
        11
        Quote: Shurik70
        . This is a waste of money for Russia, since the new agreement that will replace START III will still ban these weapons.

        Listen to them and marvel
        This is a waste of money for Russia,

        And where does such a concern for our costs come from? request
        since the new agreement, which will replace START III, will still ban these weapons.

        And you asked us, will we generally sign any agreements with you?
        And you asked us what we will ban, and what not?
        Again this is meager rudeness
      3. 1976AG
        1976AG 3 July 2020 09: 36 New
        16
        Well, if the Americans completely destroy their nuclear weapons and missile defense systems, then I think you can consider this issue)
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 3 July 2020 09: 54 New
          +3
          Nope. Now this is not real, the owners of these devices are becoming more and more. China does not intend to open the topic regarding reductions.
        2. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 3 July 2020 13: 11 New
          0
          Not only ours but also its regimes, from Europe, the occupied part of Korea, Israel ...
        3. cradle
          cradle 4 July 2020 06: 37 New
          +1
          it’s not worth it ... there are too many of them ... and a sound weapon equalizes the chances.
      4. astepanov
        astepanov 3 July 2020 11: 49 New
        14
        Moreover, this is called a “terrible weapon” by the country that first created atomic weapons, the only one that has applied it in practice (and unnecessarily also for the civilian population), noted the largest use of chemical weapons in history, which has the largest defense budget in the world and the largest arsenals. Amazing Pharisaism.
        1. cradle
          cradle 4 July 2020 06: 39 New
          +1
          it is terribly patamusha threatening the chosen ones ... laughing
      5. smart ass
        smart ass 4 July 2020 13: 49 New
        0
        The petrel, of course, is a stupid and dangerous invention, moreover, dangerous for the carrier, but Poseidon is a good thing, just for amers it was invented
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 3 July 2020 09: 28 New
      +4
      Quote: Pereira
      I would first ask the neighbors

      And then I thought.
      If
      and everything shown during the message of President Putin - "Nothing more than animation".

      Then where did the radiation background come from?
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 3 July 2020 10: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Then where did the radiation background come from?

        If only Rosatom bought Soyuzmultfilm, and delivers him the CPM. yes wassat
      2. Letun
        Letun 3 July 2020 15: 16 New
        -1
        Quote: Lipchanin
        If
        and everything shown during President Putin’s message is “nothing more than animation.”

        Then where did the radiation background come from?

        So the background is from there, for drawing cartoons and launching real RCs with a nuclear engine is not the same thing ...
      3. Simargl
        Simargl 4 July 2020 20: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Then where did the radiation background come from?
        7-D projector, with a unit-pumped lamp wassat
    3. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 3 July 2020 10: 15 New
      12
      Quote: Pereira
      Scarecrow the wise would say so

      Unfortunately, we are not dealing with the Wise Scarecrow, but with the Terrible M-loy.
    4. figwam
      figwam 3 July 2020 10: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: Pereira
      for starters, I would ask the neighbors - Norway, Finland and Denmark.

      The Swedes, as always, pretend that neutrality, but always help our opponents.
    5. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 4 July 2020 21: 41 New
      +1
      But the problem is that instead of the brains of the indicated persons, shit is in the head.
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  3. Tank hard
    Tank hard 3 July 2020 09: 03 New
    23
    From the USA, regular calls were heard to Russia on the latest weapons developments. Moreover, appeals, as is usually the case with American rhetoric, are more reminiscent of demands.

    Kneel in front of boots, but demand! This is what power of habit means. laughing
    1. nemez
      nemez 3 July 2020 09: 32 New
      +4
      They demand to put other shoes in front of them.
    2. cradle
      cradle 4 July 2020 06: 43 New
      +1
      it’s they who train before giving up the Russians ... A useful skill will be for this homosyat shobla
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 3 July 2020 09: 03 New
    14
    We would gladly abandon the Petrels, start it up so they don’t want to sit down. We can hardly restrain: Objectives require you to specify! Try to plant an American wise guy!
  5. vlad kave
    vlad kave 3 July 2020 09: 03 New
    +3
    It should be like this: "Vasya listens, but eats."
  6. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 3 July 2020 09: 04 New
    20
    ... "The US official called on Russia to abandon the" terrible "weapons" ...
    Uncle do not get distracted, it is better to solve issues of racial discrimination and the rights of perverts, oh sorry, sexual minorities! wassat
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 3 July 2020 09: 26 New
      10
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      better address issues of racial discrimination and the rights of perverts, oh sorry, sexual minorities!

      And they decide ... the stupidity of the nation already has a place to be, plus problems with obesity, the psyche, and so on ... foods with GMOs are all around there, respectively, you don’t have to talk about the health of the nation at all.
      As for foreign policy, the Anglo-Saxons have always been enemies of Slavic civilization.
      What is most regrettable is that instead of uniting the Slavs and living together as the Anglo-Saxons do, most of the Slavic countries fell under them.
  7. marchcat
    marchcat 3 July 2020 09: 04 New
    +5
    This is a waste of money for Russia, since the new agreement that will replace START III will still ban these weapons
    And that START-3 has already been signed? So, do not indicate how and what we should do ... if the minds themselves do not have enough for such products!
  8. vavilon
    vavilon 3 July 2020 09: 05 New
    +4
    Well, no one has signed the agreement yet and it is not known whether they will sign it, but the Western partner needs to learn to perceive reality, and not to live in their illusions and demand from others what they themselves do not
  9. NDR-791
    NDR-791 3 July 2020 09: 09 New
    +5
    This is a waste of money for Russia, since the new agreement, which will replace START III, will still ban these weapons.
    How well they live in their rainbow dream ... Especially at the expense of "still forbid." Dream, cranks, but sometimes remember that there is nothing worse than a dream come true. crying
  10. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 July 2020 09: 12 New
    +8
    This is the whole logic of the so-called Western civilization.
    I remember, whether in 2015 or in 2016, Steinmeier once said that let Russia return Crimea to Ukraine first, and only after that they will think - only think - about lifting the sanctions.
    Same thing now. First, let Russia destroy its weapons, and then they will figure out whether it is worth concluding a new treaty, and in what form.
    1. keeper03
      keeper03 5 July 2020 23: 12 New
      0
      First, let the United States remove its bases around the world, destroy their chemical weapons, nuclear weapons, then we will consider this issue, but for now it's time for us to put ultimatums! wassat yes soldier
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 3 July 2020 09: 15 New
    +2
    The US President’s Special Envoy for Arms Control said the Russian Petrel and Poseidon projects are “terrible.”

    To send far, the first time, I wouldn’t have to send further.
    1. cradle
      cradle 4 July 2020 06: 46 New
      +1
      We will send the cartridge to the chamber when we meet with these tricks. After sending the Petrels there: "... but to see ...".
  12. mark1
    mark1 3 July 2020 09: 16 New
    +4
    As soon as troops with all nuclear weapons and missile defense areas are removed from Europe, they can immediately begin to demand.
  13. NEXUS
    NEXUS 3 July 2020 09: 21 New
    +5
    Russia should at least postpone the implementation of Skyfall (the American designation for "Petrel") and Poseidon, abandoning it now. This is a waste of money for Russia, since the new agreement, which will replace START III, will still ban these weapons.

    Counter REQUIREMENT-Renounce hegemony, roll up 800 bases around the world, dissolve NATO, and then we'll talk.
    1. Your honor
      Your honor 3 July 2020 09: 30 New
      +1
      Right! Then only you can start talking to them
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 3 July 2020 09: 33 New
        +6
        Quote: Your Honor
        Right! Then only you can start talking to them

        No ... you don’t need to talk to them at all, since the Anglo-Saxons have been our foremost enemies for centuries. I'm not talking about ordinary people, but about elites and ruling circles. On the other hand, do not talk, nothing good can be expected.
        1. cradle
          cradle 4 July 2020 06: 51 New
          0
          and if the enemy does not surrender, they destroy him ...
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 3 July 2020 09: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      and then we'll talk.

      Well no. we let's thinktalking with wai or not
    3. Simargl
      Simargl 4 July 2020 20: 45 New
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      roll up 800 bases around the world
      Unemployment will jump unprecedentedly. They can not.
  14. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 3 July 2020 09: 25 New
    +1
    Such a statement can only be made by a foolish person, by nature.
  15. Egoza
    Egoza 3 July 2020 09: 26 New
    +2
    Oh! Russia spends money "wrong way"! You tell your wife when she goes shopping. And so - "Wherever I want, I’m spending it there." Well, let the United States give up all the "terrible weapons", and we will follow you ... maybe.
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 3 July 2020 12: 50 New
      +1
      Oh! Russia spends money "wrong way"!

      - Only the FSA can spend the money "correctly" ...
      - only EUROPE losses from FSA sanctions for the Nord Stream
      will lead to a blockage of € 700 million in direct investment in the completion of the SP-2 project. In addition, € 12 billion of investments from European companies for the EU’s energy infrastructure will be in jeopardy. Of this amount, 8 billion euros are intended for Nord Stream-2.
    2. Gato
      Gato 3 July 2020 15: 21 New
      0
      we are following you ... maybe

      We also promise not to build aircraft carriers anymore.
  16. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 3 July 2020 09: 29 New
    +1
    Already called or only calls?
  17. Aleksandre
    Aleksandre 3 July 2020 09: 33 New
    +4
    Perhaps there is every chance to become a joke of the year.
  18. pv1005
    pv1005 3 July 2020 09: 47 New
    +4
    Amers need to learn Russian sayings more often. For example, what is written with a pen cannot be cut down with an ax. What the translation looks like, painted (cartoon) x .. erase. yes laughing
  19. Charik
    Charik 3 July 2020 09: 49 New
    +1
    these are jokers-hahaha hehehee-these are jokers-tear stomach
  20. CBR600
    CBR600 3 July 2020 09: 52 New
    +2
    Yes, what they just do not require !! But it sounds real, like a joke. Rzhu Nimagu laughing offset good
    Like in that game- More !!
    It’s interesting what will happen to the amers when it comes to service - “Baba Yaga” or “Petrusha” there? I would add gorynycha, but it is a mine clearance system.
    .... Petrel, yeah, like black lightning. Refuse, yeah .. Return Alaska!
  21. thinker
    thinker 3 July 2020 09: 58 New
    0
    M. Billingsley ...
    And his name is Marshall! yes I would say - not a hawk, but a political alligator.
    22.05.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX Marshall Billingsley delivered a keynote speech at the Hudson Institute in Washington ... He put forward an address to Russia three charges - in violation of “almost all” agreements in the field of arms control, lowering the threshold of applicability of nuclear weapons and the development of “mobile Chernobyls”. Mr. Billingsley presented to Moscow two requirements: Set China at the negotiating table and destroy tactical nuclear weapons. And warned: US arms race will ruin Russia.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 3 July 2020 10: 10 New
      +3
      The wipers in Formula 1 are also Marshals. I wanted to be built in Formula 1 for writing in the work book: Marshal, does it sound? And so is the janitor. Let the Ahschwalt sweep the language.
    2. CBR600
      CBR600 3 July 2020 10: 18 New
      +1
      Requirements to interpret as a sentence, they say, we want it. The opposite side is responsible, and we say this ... That’s where the Dialogues and the solution of all issues begin =)), you know the politician.
  22. mag nit
    mag nit 3 July 2020 10: 06 New
    0
    Are the cartoons scared?
    1. cradle
      cradle 4 July 2020 06: 53 New
      0
      they haven’t seen a cartoon about Leopold’s cat
  23. rusich
    rusich 3 July 2020 10: 06 New
    +3
    The US official urged Russia to abandon the "terrible" weapons "Petrel" and "Poseidon", and then in the dance was a shortage of toilet paper and diapers
  24. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 3 July 2020 10: 16 New
    +3
    Russia owes nothing to anyone, and especially to Pindostan
  25. K-50
    K-50 3 July 2020 10: 26 New
    0
    US official urges Russia to abandon the "terrible" weapons "Petrel" and "Poseidon"

    Why would we refuse him? Ali is there any benefit to us?
    It’s a “scarecrow” for you, so that you don’t lose your “shore”, otherwise your head will sometimes throw your head out of your “exclusivity”, because here there will be at least brakes. yes angry
  26. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 July 2020 10: 45 New
    +2
    called on Russia to abandon the "terrible" weapons "Petrel" and "Poseidon"
    And why was he so modest by naming only two species? To walk, to walk like that - to abandon Russia in general from nuclear weapons and the latest types of weapons, to dismantle everything under American supervision (for zealous sarcasm), scrap metal armored vehicles, small arms under the press, kiss a black American boot and live happily, as the liberals have long dreamed.
    1. hohkn
      hohkn 3 July 2020 12: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      kiss a black american boot and heal happily

      What are you so ... intolerant of? You need to kiss not the boot, but "slightly" higher. laughing
      1. Cetron
        Cetron 3 July 2020 20: 53 New
        +1
        In the dashing 90s it was, drank everything that is possible and impossible. And already kissed below the waist so that the echo is still standing!
  27. Alexander X
    Alexander X 3 July 2020 10: 57 New
    +1
    Refuse weapons that cannot be intercepted, but NATO bases with nuclear weapons around the country will be rewarded and sanctions on everything will only be worse and shit ... Ay, wise guys!
  28. Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 3 July 2020 10: 57 New
    0
    In how ordinary Russian cartoons scared the Yankees.
  29. Wolf
    Wolf 3 July 2020 10: 59 New
    +4
    M. Billingsley could declare that Russia should immediately lay down its arms in front of the enemy, why it would be chosen. laughing laughing laughing
    Papausi in the USA are already going crazy, they think that in Russia the traitor Gorbachev is in the head of the state or Yeltsin is drunk, or agent Kozirev might be a ZIONIST. Gone are the days of the papaus. wink
  30. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 3 July 2020 11: 03 New
    +1
    If such statements sound, then this technique really poses a real danger to the United States. And you can’t refuse it.
    And indeed stop signing all kinds of treaties for "world peace." And his "civilized" look in the eyes of the world community. As a result of compliance with which we are left without weapons capable of effectively resisting the United States.
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 3 July 2020 12: 29 New
      +1
      If such statements sound, then this technique really poses a real danger to the United States. And you can’t refuse it.

      - so no one is going to ...
      8-)
  31. Lesorub
    Lesorub 3 July 2020 11: 15 New
    +3
    Earlier in the US, it was stated that Russia does not have the latest weapons, and everything shown during President Putin’s message is “nothing more than an animation”.

    I don’t understand - why did the Western partners get so angry - if they don’t believe in our weapons)).
    The US President’s Special Envoy for Arms Control said the Russian Petrel and Poseidon projects are “terrible.”
  32. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 July 2020 11: 17 New
    0
    The US President’s Special Envoy for Arms Control said the Russian Petrel and Poseidon projects are “terrible.”
    Why so? laughing Not democratic or what? wassat
  33. iouris
    iouris 3 July 2020 11: 28 New
    -1
    'From me' accidents, the mandatory certification procedure will give a negative result - it will be banned.
  34. g1v2
    g1v2 3 July 2020 11: 33 New
    +1
    It seems that Americans, unlike our liberoids, still believe in "cartoons." wink And they began to experience something. Probably the "experts" from the site just have not yet told them that there are no cartoons, but all this is cuts, projections, etc. wink
  35. 5-9
    5-9 3 July 2020 11: 47 New
    +1
    Ogh, shchazz ... can missile defense be included in START-4?
  36. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 3 July 2020 12: 01 New
    0
    To begin with, gentlemen, “gigemons” (from the word hyena) withdraw all your bases from foreign territories, stop all your aggressive wars, and only then we will watch !!!
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 3 July 2020 12: 26 New
      +1
      - if from the word "hyena" - then "hyenamon"
      80 )
  37. APASUS
    APASUS 3 July 2020 12: 08 New
    +1
    in the USA they stated that Russia does not have any new weapons, and everything shown during the message of President Putin is “nothing more than an animation”.

    How are some US statements not consistent with others?
    The US President’s Special Envoy for Arms Control said the Russian Petrel and Poseidon projects are “terrible.”
    M. Billingsley:
    Russia should at least postpone the implementation of Skyfall (the American designation for "Petrel") and Poseidon, abandoning it now. This is a waste of money for Russia, since the new agreement, which will replace START III, will still ban these weapons.

    It would be necessary to decide on the ultimate goal, what do they want, otherwise it turns out they require just in case?
  38. Last centurion
    Last centurion 3 July 2020 12: 24 New
    +1
    probably the question can be considered ... in the event of the elimination of all US bases outside the US borders .. and the withdrawal of US troops from all countries, as well as the abolition of NATO :). and so well scary from Poseidon and the petrel etozh good- scary good :)
  39. tikhonov66
    tikhonov66 3 July 2020 12: 25 New
    +3
    Skyfall ... and Poseidon, abandoning it now.

    - how, refuse cartoons ?!
    Yes, NEVER!

    - Long live the products of the animated cartoon -
    homeland of the most HUMANOUS and FUNNY "animations".

    But IF KEEP - then "our fairy tale" will become "your past" ...
    ... or "your dust"?
    Well, actually - something will become ...
  40. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 3 July 2020 12: 49 New
    0
    The most interesting thing is that as an asymmetric answer, Americans can drop any Boeing remotely or take control, but how many Boeings in our country fly? Examples in the history of darkness, starting from 9/11 and Malaysian in the ocean, etc.
  41. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 3 July 2020 12: 51 New
    +1
    This is a waste of money for Russia, since the new agreement, which will replace START III, will still ban these weapons.


    Somehow, without the United States, we will figure out what we should spend money on, let them look at their military budget first, and then talk about the benefits of such spending for Americans.
  42. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 3 July 2020 13: 08 New
    0
    Against amerzi as well as against Hitler, all means are good.
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  44. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 July 2020 13: 36 New
    +5
    We are their Petrels and Poseidons, and much more than that, and they are Katz, Roizman and Sisyan. And so we live the last 150 years. wassat
  45. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 3 July 2020 13: 40 New
    +1
    Simple as a birch log. laughing
  46. Shadow041
    Shadow041 3 July 2020 14: 18 New
    +4
    Let the American official better urge his fellow citizens to get away from the borders of the Russian Federation, and best of all from Europe, then Russia will not have to be afraid.
  47. Old26
    Old26 3 July 2020 16: 24 New
    -1
    Quote: KAV
    a new agreement to replace START III will still ban these weapons
    What a blithe self-confidence! Shish without oil to you, not fulfilling your requirements!

    Whether we like it or not, if START-3 is to be prolonged, then the Petrel and Poseidon will be among the weapons systems to which the treaty will apply. It was just that earlier this was done in silence, at the meetings of the Joint Control Commission, now the first thing is to drain into the media and the topic is promoted in the media.

    Quote: Lipchanin
    And you asked us, will we generally sign any agreements with you?
    And you asked us what we will ban, and what not?

    Actually, Lavrov is in favor of signing the agreement. And what to prohibit or not to prohibit is the business of negotiators. They will not be able to ban, but to limit the number is easy ...

    Quote: astepanov
    Moreover, this is called a “terrible weapon” by the country that first created atomic weapons, the only one that has applied it in practice (and unnecessarily also for the civilian population), noted the largest use of chemical weapons in history, which has the largest defense budget in the world and the largest arsenals. Amazing Pharisaism.

    let's leave Caesar Caesarean. I think that if we had such a weapon at the end of 45 to save the lives of our soldiers and to break the enemy’s resistance, we would use it in the same way. And compared with the "Kid" or "fat" these systems are really terrible.

    Quote: tralflot1832
    We would gladly abandon the Petrels, start it up so they don’t want to sit down. We can hardly restrain: Objectives require you to specify! Try to plant an American wise guy!

    Andrei! "Do you seriously think that our opponent will not be able to shoot down a subsonic cruise missile ?? Maybe you should still think sometimes before writing, and not" goof it ", earning pluses ???

    Quote: marchcat
    This is a waste of money for Russia, since the new agreement that will replace START III will still ban these weapons
    And that START-3 has already been signed? So, do not indicate how and what we should do ... if the minds themselves do not have enough for such products!

    In fact, it was signed 9 years ago, if you do not know about it. And according to one of the articles, new types of weapons can also be introduced into the text of the agreement during its validity or during prolongation. Given the fact that neither the "Petrel" nor the "Poseidon" is in service - the Americans, of course, are trying to remind us of these weapon systems ...

    Quote: vavilon
    Well, no one has signed the agreement yet and it is not known whether they will sign it, but the Western partner needs to learn to perceive reality, and not to live in their illusions and demand from others what they themselves do not

    Judging by the set of illusions in the world of presses, most writers press. And they take reality and will try so that if the agreement is prolonged, these systems are included in the weapons systems listed in the agreement. And we will go for it, if only because it will at least somehow limit such systems. For several years will pass and analogues will appear in them. If they are not mentioned in the contract, this means that we will get a headache, because they have an order of magnitude larger budget than ours and it is easier for them to make such weapons in commodity quantities than we

    Quote: NDR-791
    Dream, cranks, but sometimes remember that there is nothing worse than a dream come true.

    Dreaming, Artem, unfortunately you. And they rely on the provisions of the START-3 treaty ...

    Quote: NEXUS
    Counter REQUIREMENT-Renounce hegemony, roll up 800 bases around the world, dissolve NATO, and then we'll talk.

    Condition to be put forward if there is a desire DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING. But they won’t remove it, but it’s easy to make muck for us. There will be no restrictions for them even easier than for us ...
    1. bk316
      bk316 4 July 2020 13: 34 New
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      Do you seriously think that our opponent will not be able to bring down a subsonic cruise missile ??

      Obviously not. It's a weapon of retaliation, it starts with the first blow and hangs out a day somewhere above the Pacific Ocean near the shores of Peru. And when the missile defense and anti-aircraft defense cease to exist, it accurately strikes the necessary goals, achieving decision centers.
      To shoot down a subsonic missile flying along a closed path at a height of a couple of tens of meters in a deserted region of the world ocean at the current level of development of missile defense and missile defense is IMPOSSIBLE ABSOLUTELY.

      And someday we have to agree. That's just the right moment must be chosen. While the US nuclear triad is degrading, and ours is developing to negotiate it is beneficial to them and not to us. Well, plus to everything, the United States still needs to prove its contractual ability, something recently there have been doubts about this in everyone in the world. And you, Vladimir, live in a world where treaties meant something and international law also seemed to exist. It was a good world, but where is it?
  48. convoy
    convoy 3 July 2020 19: 15 New
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    “Petrel” is a promising Russian cruise missile of virtually unlimited range. This range is provided by the presence of a nuclear power plant. Earlier in the US, it was stated that Russia does not have the latest weapons, and everything shown during President Putin’s message is “nothing more than an animation”.

    I immediately recall the verses ...

    Storm, storm is coming soon ..
  49. Mark kalendarov
    Mark kalendarov 3 July 2020 19: 15 New
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    And where is the statement of the Russian Federation demanding the United States to abandon the relevant developments? I do not understand passive behavior and lack of reaction. For these are not jokes, but elements of an information war.
    Or have we already lost it? ...
  50. NordUral
    NordUral 3 July 2020 22: 15 New
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    US official urges Russia to abandon the "terrible" weapons "Petrel" and "Poseidon"

    I do not know if there is anything that this Mr. asks to refuse.
    But I think that our officials should also be asked to give up the Americans themselves.