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The Air Force Commander-in-Chief called the S-500 air defense system the 1st generation of anti-space defense weapons

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In the specialized edition "Red Star" an interview was issued with the Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces Sergei Surovikin. One of the components of the interview was devoted to the promising S-500 “Prometheus” air defense system, which will soon begin to enter the combat duty of the Russian armed forces.

According to General Surovikin, the S-500 complex is not an ordinary air defense system. This is a multifunctional system of a new generation, which is capable of destroying threatening space satellites of the enemy in their orbits, as well as hitting missiles flying at hypersonic speed in near space.

The S-500 Prometey complex was named the first generation by the commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces weapons space defense. From his interview The Red Star:

In the future, he will be able to destroy low-orbit satellites and space weapons. The characteristics embedded in this anti-aircraft missile system make it possible to destroy hypersonic weapons of all modifications.

Further, words were said that at the moment there are no analogues of the S-500 in the world.

According to the latest information, the S-500 "Prometheus" air defense system will begin to enter service with Russian units and formations as early as 2021.

Recall that earlier, when it came to the S-500 complex, State Duma deputy, LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky announced that Russia has even more serious air defense weapons: "S-600 and S-700 systems." That statement of Zhirinovsky caused ironic statements by experts.
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 3 July 2020 06: 54 New
    +9
    Zhirinovsky’s words sometimes come true. With 600 and C 700 I would like it to come true. Although the increase in range at each complex of 100 km is not impressive. It probably hides something, it is necessary to add something in range to zero.
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 3 July 2020 07: 14 New
      -12
      I would like to see missile tests on a real satellite. China, the USA, and India successfully conducted such tests for their missile defense systems.
      1. KCA
        KCA 3 July 2020 07: 43 New
        11
        It’s a success, to bring down your satellite flying for several decades in one orbit, yes, it’s an achievement, well there, it’s comparable to the launch of an unknown RSD
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 3 July 2020 07: 46 New
          -20
          You do not want to - nobody will force you to watch you.
          1. rotkiv04
            rotkiv04 3 July 2020 09: 59 New
            +3
            Your nickname clearly does not match the comment level
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 3 July 2020 11: 43 New
              -4
              Okay, so be it, forced to look by force.
        2. snucerist
          snucerist 3 July 2020 10: 42 New
          -8
          So why not repeat this achievement since it is so simple?
          Prove to everyone that we can?
          Or can’t we?
          And that is exactly the point?
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 3 July 2020 17: 11 New
            +4
            We can, we can low-satellite satellites are not tenants if that.
      2. Grits
        Grits 3 July 2020 08: 26 New
        -5
        Quote: military_cat
        I would like to see missile tests on a real satellite. China, the USA, and India successfully conducted such tests for their missile defense systems.

        So after all, some have already demonstratively shown their ability to knock down satellites from orbit. Except us.
        Then it is not clear why we are here first?
        1. nPuBaTuP
          nPuBaTuP 3 July 2020 08: 37 New
          +3
          Then it is not clear why we are here first?

          So they shot down with what? ..... not Patriot or what Dungsheng what? .... but here they will shoot down the air defense systems ....
        2. KCA
          KCA 3 July 2020 08: 49 New
          +6
          And if the USSR and the Russian Federation did not show demonstratively shooting down satellites, does it mean that there are no such weapons? Silently shot down your companion, without any pump, doubt? The IS-1 was launched into orbit in 1968, the target hit, the MIG-31D with the anti-satellite missile remained in Kazakhstan, but was it alone, and how did it pass and pass the tests?
      3. 5-9
        5-9 3 July 2020 09: 29 New
        +4
        This makes absolutely no sense, for it is very easy ...
      4. neri73-r
        neri73-r 3 July 2020 10: 15 New
        +6
        Quote: military_cat
        I would like to see missile tests on a real satellite. China, the USA, and India successfully conducted such tests for their missile defense systems.

        Ours did this back in the 60s first.
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 3 July 2020 11: 17 New
          -2
          There was no missile defense.
          1. Alexey Sommer
            Alexey Sommer 3 July 2020 11: 23 New
            +3
            But what was there, trampoline?
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 3 July 2020 11: 35 New
              0
              The orbiter, an interceptor satellite that synchronized the orbit with the target.
          2. neri73-r
            neri73-r 3 July 2020 12: 13 New
            +4
            Quote: military_cat
            There was no missile defense.

            Yes you are right. I confused with a missile defense, although it is more difficult to shoot down a ballistic warhead than a satellite hanging around in the same orbit for years.
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 3 July 2020 13: 21 New
              0
              All of these missiles that shot down the satellites were also successfully tested for intercepting warhead ballistic missiles.
      5. venik
        venik 3 July 2020 16: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: military_cat
        I would like to see missile tests on a real satellite. China, the USA, and India successfully conducted such tests for their missile defense systems.

        ==========
        And how did it all end? A huge pile of debris ("space debris"), which to this day and for a long time will still pose a serious threat to space flights? DO YOU THINK YOU SAY?
        Well, it’s clear - the states shot down a satellite that "fell on their heads" - it was already need (all the more, the wreckage still crashed into the ocean). But the Indians and the Chinese are still handsome: the Chinese satellite alone scattered for 2000 pieces ...... What "place" did they think? fool request
        Now you offer the same thing!
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 3 July 2020 17: 19 New
          -1
          Something so far since 2007, no one was hurt despite the extreme concern of the world community. The world community loves to scream and cry. And from a low orbit, any debris will come off themselves due to gradual braking.
          1. venik
            venik 7 July 2020 11: 55 New
            0
            Quote: military_cat
            And from a low orbit, any debris will come off themselves due to gradual braking.

            ========
            Have you spoken out? Well, now, COUNT, HOW MUCH decades, the wreckage of a satellite exploded at altitude will “go out of orbit” 850 kilometer !!!
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 July 2020 09: 21 New
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      the increase in range at each complex of 100 km is not impressive. It probably hides something, it is not necessary to add in range to zero

      Nothing nothing yes .

      But "once upon a time","someone","in which case"- SURPRISE WILL BE repeat yes fellow
    3. 1976AG
      1976AG 3 July 2020 09: 30 New
      0
      Found someone to listen to
  2. Victor_B
    Victor_B 3 July 2020 06: 58 New
    +2
    The next complex on any will be the S-600!
    (Captain obvious)
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 3 July 2020 07: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: Victor_B
      The next complex on any will be the S-600!
      (Captain obvious)

      Not a fact ... maybe the S-550.
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 3 July 2020 07: 37 New
        +4
        Quote: NEXUS
        maybe C-550.

        But AFTER S-600.
      2. Voyager
        Voyager 3 July 2020 16: 54 New
        0
        550 will most likely be left for the grandson of S-350
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 3 July 2020 07: 02 New
    +6
    The characteristics embedded in this anti-aircraft missile system make it possible to destroy hypersonic weapons of all modifications.

    Theoretically, this is possible. In practice, the destruction of maneuvering units is very expensive !!!
    No country can protect itself from the attack of even dozens of such strike systems ...
    A simple conclusion, armed with modern shock systems, at the very most!
    But the means of space infrastructure for military and other purposes, this is a more accessible goal, but again, well, everything else remains in high orbits!
    Another conclusion ... you can just defend yourself, but it is very finite! So you need to prepare your "tanks" for a "trip" to the enemy airfields. There is no way without it.
    1. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 3 July 2020 07: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      the destruction of maneuvering blocks is very expensive !!!
      Non-destruction threatens much greater losses, including people. And if you pinch low-orbit satellites, the adversary will not be happy.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 3 July 2020 07: 21 New
        +3
        Quote: Michael m
        Non-destruction threatens much greater losses, including people.

        Because the "tanks" are ready !!! Schaub those who planned the villainy KNEW that they would come / fly and LEVEL them below the ground.
        We’ll get rid of the rogues with a dozen, other missiles, there are no other options here .... It’s so easy not to fight off the most serious enemy, there are only LOTS of “TANKS” ready! The most powerful, killer, vigorous!
        Anything different, in low orbits, it’s so, a passing scratch.
        1. Grits
          Grits 3 July 2020 08: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          We’ll get rid of the rogues with a dozen, other missiles, there are no other options here .... It’s so easy not to fight off the most serious enemy, there are only LOTS of “TANKS” ready! The most powerful, killer, vigorous!

          It’s only a pity that the tanks won’t swim to the very “serious enemy”. So all the same, not tanks ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 3 July 2020 09: 00 New
            +2
            Quote: Gritsa
            So all the same, not tanks ...

            A metaphor .... although tanks are floating, they can be delivered anywhere where they come to a place.
            Seriously, I don’t want the old \ good saying, to change everything in a modern way.
            Everything needs an integrated approach, and we have the same complexes!
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 3 July 2020 07: 19 New
      +5
      Quote: rocket757
      Another conclusion ... you can just defend yourself, but it is very finite! So you need to prepare your "tanks" for a "trip" to the enemy airfields. No way without it

      The best air defense is your tanks at the enemy airfield! You can’t argue here laughing and as for satellites in high orbits ... the higher it "hangs", the less and worse it "sees" and "hears." In high orbits, communications and other services ... They will try to jam these remotely, and the destruction will be postponed "for later" ...
      You can write a lot, but we do not have enough information. And there are no doubts that there are plans to neutralize the enemy satellite constellation. As they develop methods to neutralize the wild number of Mask satellites with which it "clogs" low orbits ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 3 July 2020 07: 45 New
        +3
        It’s necessary to “clean” the orbit, if sho ... this is obvious. The necessary "broom" in this case must be had.
        And so, an integrated approach ... a broomstick, a colander and something else useful!
        1. Grits
          Grits 3 July 2020 08: 31 New
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          And so, an integrated approach ... a broomstick, a colander and something else useful!

          A bucket of nuts and bearings in satellite orbit is the cheapest broom.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 3 July 2020 09: 03 New
            +1
            As a striking element, it’s quite YES to itself, but then they will firmly saddle the given orbit ... how then to use it if necessary ??? All the same, a “broom” is required to clear the position.
            Not making a junk for a long time, cleaning up, then it can be a lot more difficult.
            In short, the option is so-so.
            1. Grits
              Grits 3 July 2020 17: 22 New
              +2
              Quote: rocket757
              Not making a junk for a long time, cleaning up, then it can be a lot more difficult.

              I think there will already be a drum. After such a war, there will be no time for satellites. Those who will seek food on the glassy surface of the planet.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 3 July 2020 17: 46 New
                0
                This is the most dumb option, but, in life, anything can happen, and life itself can take and end!
    3. newcomer
      newcomer 3 July 2020 07: 23 New
      +2
      In our age, enlightened and full of new technologies, nothing is impossible. Well, the very hypersound. a missile can be made anti-ballistic. The question remains: to teach the maneuvering missile defense unit to capture and hold the target until it is destroyed, that is, to manage to install a powerful radar in the casing of the unit, which heats up incredibly due to hypersound. speed. Yes, and you can destroy it in two well-known ways: by an exact hit, or ..., remember the joke about a bucket of nails in space against SDI. Well, as an option, you can consider. wink
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 3 July 2020 07: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: newbie
        The question remains: to teach the maneuvering missile defense unit to capture and hold the target until it is destroyed,

        In this direction, so far, no one can boast. It may be a great secret, but theoretically it is very difficult. Boom to see.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 3 July 2020 07: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      No country can protect itself from the attack of even dozens of such strike systems ...

      Now the trend is different ... why should a nuclear armagedite be launched, firing rockets, if it is possible to quietly harbor a virus (which is cheaper) and also bring it into a quiet country to the enemy? Damage is many times greater than from a rocket, and no one will understand where it came from.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 3 July 2020 07: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: NEXUS
        Now the trend is different ...

        That's right ... the skin of a bear can be torn off in different ways.
        But then again, there is a risk that it will fly in response, even if it is not clear for certain where such an infection crawled / crashed from the beginning.
        Nothing can be ruled out, although NOBODY will be able to be ready for everything, for everything, in a sufficient amount of protection!
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 3 July 2020 08: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          That's right ... the skin of a bear can be torn off in different ways.
          But then again, there is a risk that it will fly in response, even if it is not clear for certain where such an infection crawled / crashed from the beginning.

          The virus has already returned to its manufacturers ... And mows them worse than machine guns. 57 thousand infections per day!
          Apparently, the Negro shoes were too contagious!
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 3 July 2020 08: 47 New
            +2
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            The virus has already returned to its manufacturers ...

            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Apparently, the Negro shoes were too contagious!

            So blacks, Mexicans, Arabs and so on, as well as homeless people of all stripes, basically mow. From the point of view of the elites, very practical. No need to pay benefits, heal, again think what to do with the ghetto ...
            As they say, to whom the stepmother’s war, and to whom the mother is dear.
          2. rocket757
            rocket757 3 July 2020 09: 06 New
            0
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            The virus has already returned to its manufacturers ...

            As an option for the development of events, it’s quite relevant to itself .... biologist, she is such, she easily overturns all intentions and forecasts. Play with it ... it's easier to sit on a barrel of gas and smoke, smoke, smoke am
      2. muham
        muham 3 July 2020 08: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: NEXUS
        quietly bungle a virus (which is cheaper) and also into a quiet one to bring it into the enemy country
        This is not an ass to buy. This may appeal to a boomerang.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 3 July 2020 08: 18 New
          0
          Quote: muham
          This may appeal to a boomerang.

          But the ruling circles do not care? The coronovirus then delivered the whole world with cancer, with its economy, technology, oil and armies ... the benefits are now incommensurable to the elites more than a couple of hundred thousand ordinary lives.
          1. muham
            muham 3 July 2020 08: 38 New
            +1
            Quote: NEXUS
            But the ruling circles do not care?
            Do not care, father, do not care. And forever did not care.
            Quote: NEXUS
            the benefits are incommensurable from this more for the elites than a couple of hundred thousand simple lives of people.
            And that’s true, the rich have become richer and the backward ones have become poorer. And ahead - it will not be better. The crown is not losing ground. But you see, everyone, absolutely everyone has grasped what kind of cut you can’t take, everyone has a pomp. Poor, rich, white and away.
  4. Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 July 2020 07: 20 New
    0
    The VKS commander knows best, after all, a person is directly connected with these matters.
    1. atalef
      atalef 3 July 2020 14: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Ros 56
      The VKS commander knows best, after all, a person is directly connected with these matters.

      Further, words were said that at the moment there are no analogues of the S-500 in the world.

      Israel, Hets -3 - already adopted
      The main difference between Arrow-3 and previous models (Arrow-1 and Arrow-2) is a warhead that strikes targets with a kinetic strike. Arrow-3 will be able to intercept at atmospheric heights such ballistic missiles as the Iranian Shihab, the Syrian Scud and the Lebanese Fatah 110. Missiles will be able to destroy targets at an altitude of up to 100 km (the boundary of the Earth’s atmosphere and space).
      Подробнее: http://cyclowiki.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%B5%D1%86-3
      The Hets-3 can destroy ballistic missiles in space - even before they enter the atmosphere. At the same time, the Hets-3 is almost two times lighter than the earlier model, which allows it to be mounted on board ships. Although the Hets-3 is designed to intercept ballistic missiles of the types that are in service with Iran, Syria and Lebanon, given the 100-km radius of the system, it can also shoot down satellites from Earth’s orbit [2].

      Accuracy is estimated up to 99%.
      Подробнее: http://cyclowiki.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%B5%D1%86-3
  5. Op po
    Op po 3 July 2020 07: 26 New
    -5
    Are we here, dare .. are you going? Conduct training firing, shoot down an object in the near space, at least slowly planking, then, so be it, the last time we believe
  6. zwlad
    zwlad 3 July 2020 08: 21 New
    0
    which is capable of destroying threatening space satellites of the enemy in their orbits
    - Is the statement too loud? I doubt very much that the missiles can reach the satellites. Only if up to low orbit.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 3 July 2020 08: 33 New
      0
      What is the problem? The Americans in 1985 with a F15 satellite shot down.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 3 July 2020 09: 09 New
        0
        4 countries fired at old satellites ... dashing trouble began.
      2. zwlad
        zwlad 3 July 2020 11: 39 New
        0
        The problem in the height of the orbit of a satellite
  7. Grazdanin
    Grazdanin 3 July 2020 08: 31 New
    -2
    Further, words were said that at the moment there are no analogues of the S-500 in the world.

    According to the latest information, the S-500 "Prometheus" air defense system will begin to enter service with Russian units and formations as early as 2021.

    Already starting to feel sick from such phrases.
    The American THAAD system (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense) is a mobile land-based missile defense system designed for high-altitude atmospheric destruction of medium-range ballistic missiles.
    The first deliveries were made in 2012.
    1. Charik
      Charik 3 July 2020 09: 18 New
      0
      so get rid of it and buy yourself a THAAD, and the C500 will suit us
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 3 July 2020 09: 24 New
        0
        Quote: Charik
        so get rid of it and buy yourself a THAAD, and the C500 will suit us

        good yes Which they did not buy, but did it themselves ...
        1. Charik
          Charik 3 July 2020 09: 41 New
          -3
          who did? who bought?
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 3 July 2020 09: 44 New
            0
            Quote: Charik
            who did? who bought?

            Understand for yourself who is developing air defense systems for himself, and who is forced to acquire American ones.
            1. Charik
              Charik 3 July 2020 09: 47 New
              -3
              So I wrote, even if they take it from the manufacturer, they take THAAD, anyway, they are sick from Russian air defense systems
    2. 5-9
      5-9 3 July 2020 10: 06 New
      +1
      What makes you think that THAAD is an analogue of the S-500? Just because it is stated there and there that they can shoot down in space (beyond the atmosphere)?
      In the first, I do not think ours repeated stupidity with kinetic interception.
      In 2, each complex has limitations on the launch range / speed of the BR. And THAAD is not at all GBI in features.
      3, THAAD is a highly specialized missile defense system, and the S-500 is a universal air defense / missile defense system with a set of different missiles.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 3 July 2020 12: 51 New
        0
        Quote: 5-9
        What makes you think that THAAD is an analogue of the S-500?


        I'm not saying this, in this article they boast that they can do the same in the future as THAAD. And it’s precisely in this that no one can compare with the C500; this is not so. As a means of air defense, there are no questions; there really are few or no such systems like the C300-500 in the world. The same patriots are an analogue of Buk, why it is not very clear why they compare with 300/400.
        1. 5-9
          5-9 3 July 2020 12: 53 New
          +1
          He invented it for himself, refuted it himself with brilliance .... about the TAAAD in the article not a word .. as well as about the specific capabilities of the S-500 missile defense.
          What is the maximum range of intercepted ballistic missiles by the way?
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 3 July 2020 12: 55 New
            0
            150-200 km in height.
            1. 5-9
              5-9 3 July 2020 13: 44 New
              -1
              Who cares where to intercept? What is the maximum range of ballistic missile systems that the TCAAD can intercept? This is the main parameter of PRO coolness ...
              1. Grazdanin
                Grazdanin 3 July 2020 13: 58 New
                +1
                You can google yourself if you're interested, as well as read what is really important for intercepting objects on the border with low Earth orbit and what it is. Maybe you stop writing nonsense.
                1. 5-9
                  5-9 3 July 2020 14: 00 New
                  -1
                  Once again - completely monographically where the missile defense system intercepts the BR ... the only parameter characterizing its class is what is the maximum launch range of the BR that it can intercept.
                  1. Grazdanin
                    Grazdanin 3 July 2020 14: 15 New
                    0
                    Last time I answer you. The American THAAD system (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense) is a mobile land-based missile defense system designed for high-altitude atmospheric destruction of medium-range ballistic missiles.
                    The THAAD system can intercept BRs within 3500 km, a radar can detect a target at a distance of 1000 km, a missile can hit a target flying at an altitude of up to 200 km. and ranges up to 200 km.
                    1. 5-9
                      5-9 3 July 2020 15: 27 New
                      -1
                      THAAD system can intercept BR launched distance 3500 km

                      Voooot .... this is the main thing .... in our S-300VM aka Antey-2500 can hit the BR launched distance 2500 since the 90s (as well as everything-everything-everything, and THAAD only BR). ... therefore, we did not and could not have any piety before THAAD.
                      One can only guess at what range the launched S-500 BR can hit.
          2. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 3 July 2020 13: 05 New
            -1
            The article talks about the modification of the C500 with the capabilities of THAAD. To work in different layers of the atmosphere and beyond, various equipment is needed. Missiles, guidance systems, detection, etc. Air defense and missile defense are different. Those. within one complex there will be various modifications. They will just go with one name and some common equipment.
    3. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 3 July 2020 12: 23 New
      0
      THAAD did looking at the old S-300V. And they made him not much better.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 3 July 2020 12: 28 New
        0
        Since when did the C300 destroy targets at an altitude of 150 km?
      2. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 3 July 2020 12: 39 New
        0
        I won’t immediately name the western analogues of the C300-400, Patriot is an analog of Buk, THAAD is a different class of technology.
  8. An64
    An64 3 July 2020 09: 35 New
    +2
    The S-500 Prometey complex was named by the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces the first generation of anti-space defense weapons.

    It is a pity that the commander in chief does not know anything about the IS-M and IS-MU complexes that were on the database, and during the tests they destroyed a single target in space. The Contact complex, which did not reach the finished sample quite a bit and is now rusting in Sary-Shagan ...
    Yes, and "Relight" is.
    There were other more or less successful projects.
    So, the commander-in-chief was clearly mistaken with the first generation of weapons.
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  10. dfddsaws-19833
    dfddsaws-19833 3 July 2020 09: 45 New
    +1
    Of course, at the moment there are no analogues of the S-500 in the world, because there are many analogues of the SM-3.
  11. Galleon
    Galleon 3 July 2020 09: 50 New
    0
    In the future, he will be able to destroy low-orbit satellites and space weapons. The characteristics embedded in this anti-aircraft missile system make it possible to destroy hypersonic weapons of all modifications.
    Further, words were said that at the moment there are no analogues of the S-500 in the world.
    According to the latest information, the S-500 "Prometheus" air defense system will begin to enter service with Russian units and formations as early as 2021.

    If the complex begins to enter the troops next year and its characteristics correspond to those declared, why not declare a successful test? On tests, he shot down a low-flying satellite or a practical BG? Show it in the media or stop making showman out of the commander of the videoconferencing. Or here are the keywords - "further"It’s a pity that hypersonic weapons still allow us to destroy not only the inherent characteristics, but also weapons, missiles. But about the missiles for the complex - further. Over the previous 20 years, the formulations have reached filigree perfection, but this is not the limit. In the future, in the statements of the responsible persons, the inherent characteristics of armaments will steadily increase.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 3 July 2020 10: 14 New
      -6
      Quote: Galleon
      about missiles for the complex - hereinafter. Over the previous 20 years, the formulations have reached filigree perfection, but this is not the limit.

      Yes, already all adequate people understood, it is not clear what is not clear when, with a bunch of analogues in the same USSR. 2 offers out of 3 fraud, it is simply impossible to believe our officials.
  12. ZVS
    ZVS 3 July 2020 11: 44 New
    +1
    The only thing left is to start the production of complexes for the army. But this desire does not see the beginning.
  13. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 3 July 2020 16: 56 New
    0
    S-600 are meteorites of the Chelyabinsk type, and S-700 are asteroids. Counter Space Defense - the most relevant system for protecting the civilization of earthlings from the category of science fiction into reality ..?
  14. Old26
    Old26 3 July 2020 17: 41 New
    +4
    Quote: KCA
    It’s a success, to bring down your satellite flying for several decades in one orbit, yes, it’s an achievement, well there, it’s comparable to the launch of an unknown RSD

    But we haven’t had it yet. Do not shoot down ...

    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Here you can’t argue laughing, but about satellites in high orbits ... the higher it hangs, the less and worse it sees and hears.

    And because of this, the SPRN satellites try to place it “high” so that they hang out there. Well dumb everyone. They don’t know that the higher, the "less and worse they see"

    Quote: rocket757

    In this direction, so far, no one can boast. It may be a great secret, but theoretically it is very difficult. Boom see

    We definitely can't. But our adversary has kinetic interceptors on three types of missile defense: THAAD, Standart SM-3 Block 2A and GBI. Moreover, due to the high energy of the rocket, the latter are now planning to test a separable warhead from several kinetic interceptors.

    Quote: Gritsa
    Quote: rocket757
    And so, an integrated approach ... a broomstick, a colander and something else useful!

    A bucket of nuts and bearings in satellite orbit is the cheapest broom.

    Moreover, without a guarantee that it will fall on some satellite

    Quote: KCA
    And if the USSR and the Russian Federation did not show demonstratively shooting down satellites, does it mean that there are no such weapons?

    Especially the USSR. Any weapon system was "lit up" to show the adversary that we have this. And interceptor missiles were not observed in the USSR. In Russia, so far too ...

    Quote: venik
    And how did it all end? A huge pile of debris ("space debris"), which to this day and for a long time will still pose a serious threat to space flights? DO YOU THINK YOU SAY?
    Well, it’s still clear - the states shot down a satellite that “fell on their heads” - it was already a necessity (all the more, the wreckage still crashed into the ocean). But the Indians and the Chinese are still handsome: the Chinese satellite alone scattered for 2000 pieces ...... What "place" did they think? fool request
    Now you offer the same thing!

    That's right, namesake. If we can’t, then we immediately begin to take care of the cleanliness of 6 near-Earth space. Indian fragments have long been burned in the atmosphere. The Chinese at an altitude of 800 km so far do not bother anyone. And even then, most of the smaller ones have probably already burned

    Quote: Grazdanin
    What is the problem? The Americans in 1985 with a F15 satellite shot down.

    You forget that the launch of this rocket took place at altitudes of about 18 km. the rocket was two-stage. Of ground-based missiles, four countries have missiles capable of shooting down satellites so far: the USA, Israel, China and India. Everyone else has just talk

    Quote: 5-9
    In the first, I do not think ours repeated stupidity with kinetic interception.
    In 2, each complex has limitations on the launch range / speed of the BR. And THAAD is not at all GBI in features.
    3, THAAD is a highly specialized missile defense system, and the S-500 is a universal air defense / missile defense system with a set of different missiles.

    1. Repeat. Someone from the leadership spoke and said that anti-missiles would not be with nuclear warheads, but with a kinetic interceptor
    2. Of course THAAD is not GBI, Like the S-500 missile is not the A-235th anti-missile system
    3. Universalism most often makes the system more complex, more inflexible, than highly specialized

    Quote: 5-9
    Who cares where to intercept? What is the maximum range of ballistic missile systems that the TCAAD can intercept? This is the main parameter of PRO coolness ...

    Missiles with a range of not more than 3000-3500 km. That is, medium range. intermediate range missiles this complex does not shoot down

    Quote: Grazdanin
    I won’t immediately name the western analogues of the C300-400, Patriot is an analog of Buk, THAAD is a different class of technology.

    Patriot is not an analogue of Buk. Depending on the modifications, it can be an analogue of the first modifications of the S-300 complex. Just now, the Buk-M3 has a destruction range of 70 km, comparable with the first versions of the S-300 and the Patriot RAS-1. The latest modification of the "Patriot" - PAC-2 MSE has a destruction range of 160 km.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 5 July 2020 00: 11 New
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      Quote: Old26
      You forget that the launch of this rocket took place at altitudes of about 18 km. the rocket was two-stage.

      Of course you need a rocket that can allow the striking element to gain the necessary height (I wonder at what point does the height turn into a distance from the ground?). Mankind has learned how to do this a long time ago.
      Quote: Old26
      Missiles with a range of not more than 3000-3500 km.

      Rather, it is necessary to say that THAAD can shoot down missiles in which the warhead is at an altitude of about 80-200 km, range up to 200-250 km from the launcher. The United States can detect a missile launch from anywhere in the world, the THAAD radar sees the target at a distance of 1000 km.
      Quote: Old26
      Patriot is not an analogue of Buk. He depending

      There is always a problem with analogues, it is not clear by what parameters to compare. The USA has a different air defense concept, the task of shooting down planes lies with the fighters, the Patriot must defend against the statutory "Saddam Scuds" that is missile defense facilities. For these tasks, we use beech. Therefore, conventionally long-range missiles in Patriot appeared not long ago and have a small range compared to ours. Usually the phrase "has no analogues in the world" means that no one else needs us.
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    lvov_aleksey 6 July 2020 01: 01 New
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    Quote: tralflot1832
    Zhirinovsky’s words sometimes come true. With 600 and C 700 I would like it to come true. Although the increase in range at each complex of 100 km is not impressive. It probably hides something, it is necessary to add something in range to zero.

    if only for us boots in the Indian Ocean not to wash it with prayers (radiation)
  16. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 6 July 2020 01: 05 New
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    Quote: Grazdanin
    Quote: Old26
    You forget that the launch of this rocket took place at altitudes of about 18 km. the rocket was two-stage.

    Of course you need a rocket that can allow the striking element to gain the necessary height (I wonder at what point does the height turn into a distance from the ground?). Mankind has learned how to do this a long time ago.
    Quote: Old26
    Missiles with a range of not more than 3000-3500 km.

    Rather, it is necessary to say that THAAD can shoot down missiles in which the warhead is at an altitude of about 80-200 km, range up to 200-250 km from the launcher. The United States can detect a missile launch from anywhere in the world, the THAAD radar sees the target at a distance of 1000 km.
    Quote: Old26
    Patriot is not an analogue of Buk. He depending

    There is always a problem with analogues, it is not clear by what parameters to compare. The USA has a different air defense concept, the task of shooting down planes lies with the fighters, the Patriot must defend against the statutory "Saddam Scuds" that is missile defense facilities. For these tasks, we use beech. Therefore, conventionally long-range missiles in Patriot appeared not long ago and have a small range compared to ours. Usually the phrase "has no analogues in the world" means that no one else needs us.

    it’s also honest, we don’t attack, we do the defense !!! And honestly we all say that our triad will surpass everyone and everything !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ps thanks to Khrushchev, when the striped spent on aug, we on rockets - cheap and cheerful