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Sohu: The Americans associate Turkey with kebab, and now they are told about the need to buy weapons from her

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Sohu: The Americans associate Turkey with kebab, and now they are told about the need to buy weapons from her

The Chinese edition of Sohu came out with material on the conflict situation that arose between the US and Turkey over the purchase of the latest Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems. Recall that the first systems were delivered to Turkey from the Russian Federation, however, this country does not put Russian air defense systems on combat alert, citing problems of the epidemiological plan. Experts believe that the main reason why the S-400 Triumph air defense systems are still not included in Turkey’s air defense system is due to American pressure.


The other day, a representative of the US Senate proposed to completely buy out the S-400 from Turkey in order to "restore trust between the two NATO countries." In Russia, commenting on this statement by a representative of the American legislature, they say that the Russian Federation can respond with sanctions if Ankara decides to resell the complexes to a third country.

Does Chinese Sohu write colorfully about the situation?

For most Americans, the word Turkey is associated with Turkish kebab, and now it is talked about in Washington as an “unreliable partner” and it is reported that it needs to be bought from Russia weapon. And this “insecurity" is associated with military-technical contacts with Russia and, specifically, with the purchase of S-400 systems from Russia.

It is noted that the latter can forget about the "unreliability" of Turkey for the United States if Ankara resells them Russian air defense systems.

The author writes that the United States is allegedly ready to pay about $ 400 billion for the S-10. And he states:

If Turkey decides to sell Russian air defense systems to the Americans, this will only mean one thing: the United States is ready to slide into a loss-making business, if only to somehow harm Russia. This is disgusting for Russia, but it is consistent with the American style of behavior.
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  1. WILL
    WILL 2 July 2020 15: 21
    +4
    Well, I do not believe in this sale! A fart can not be so "limited", realizing that Europe does not need it, and the Mattresses too.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 2 July 2020 15: 23
      +1
      Yes, even if it sells to us, what
      1. WILL
        WILL 2 July 2020 15: 28
        10
        Quote: 1976AG
        Yes, even if it sells to us, what

        I'm not special in air defense / missile defense ... from a word at all! But I think we must not allow the fact that the Russian Modern Weapons were considered by our potential Enemies.
        Honestly, I was against the sale of complexes in Turkey, but ... I am a simple person, not far from understanding Geopolitical processes.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 2 July 2020 15: 52
          +7
          Quote: ANIMAL
          Quote: 1976AG
          Yes, even if it sells to us, what

          I'm not special in air defense / missile defense ... from a word at all! But I think we must not allow the fact that the Russian Modern Weapons were considered by our potential Enemies.
          Honestly, I was against the sale of complexes in Turkey, but ... I am a simple person, not far from understanding Geopolitical processes.

          Isn't Turkey a potential enemy ??
          1. alone
            alone 2 July 2020 16: 50
            0
            Quote: 1976AG
            Isn't Turkey a potential enemy ??

            Would you sell a potential enemy to the S-400?
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 2 July 2020 16: 55
              +5
              I would not sell it to anyone at all, but it does not depend on me. Do you consider Turkey a friend or ally?
              1. alone
                alone 2 July 2020 17: 20
                0
                The reality is that today it’s concrete to say who is friend and who is the enemy most difficult .. Everyone has interests .. Yesterday’s friend can become an enemy and the enemy a friend ..
                It all depends on leaders and their ambitions.
                1. 1976AG
                  1976AG 2 July 2020 17: 21
                  0
                  Quote: lonely
                  The reality is that today it’s concrete to say who is friend and who is the enemy most difficult .. Everyone has interests .. Yesterday’s friend can become an enemy and the enemy a friend ..
                  It all depends on leaders and their ambitions.


                  And this fact is always taken into account when exporting weapons.
                  1. alone
                    alone 2 July 2020 17: 24
                    -1
                    So Putin trusts Erdogan
                    1. 1976AG
                      1976AG 2 July 2020 17: 38
                      +1
                      Quote: lonely
                      So Putin trusts Erdogan


                      Or believes that they will not be able to use secret technologies.
                      1. alone
                        alone 2 July 2020 17: 44
                        0
                        Quote: 1976AG
                        Quote: lonely
                        So Putin trusts Erdogan


                        Or believes that they will not be able to use secret technologies.

                        Well, this is a little debatable .. they now have the military-industrial complex on the rise, and there were decent specialists in decent numbers ... maybe not right away, but after a certain time they can take advantage ..
                      2. 1976AG
                        1976AG 2 July 2020 17: 49
                        0
                        If they repeat this in 15-20 years, then this is of course uncritical for us, I say that they will not be able to use it in the short term.
                      3. alone
                        alone 2 July 2020 18: 10
                        -2
                        Quote: 1976AG
                        I say that they will not be able to use in the short term.

                        Well, how to say how to say .. About 5-6 years ago it was ridiculous to talk about Turkish air defense systems because of the lack thereof .. And now they are developing a system for 100 km .. after 2-3 years they will be adopted ... Talk specifically about the timing difficult .. But I assure you 100% that there are specialists and they are configured to create distant systems
                      4. 1976AG
                        1976AG 2 July 2020 18: 18
                        +1
                        The fact that they are engaged in the development of long-range systems does not mean that they will succeed in adopting our technologies. When did our S-300 get into the states there? I don’t remember exactly the year, but for a long time. And they have not yet been able to create such a thing.
                2. Charik
                  Charik 2 July 2020 20: 50
                  -4
                  Pu thinks that if they gave Old Edik a coup, he now owes him a coffin
          2. Charik
            Charik 2 July 2020 20: 48
            -1
            enemy to become a friend? fool
      2. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 2 July 2020 18: 08
        +2
        We have nothing to share with the Turks; he is not trying to teach us life, unlike the United States and Western Europe who have messed with messianism. Naughty zealously as in the Caucasus in the 90s, and whether in the Crimea until the accession is unlikely to be. We are hardly going to step on our balls with the Bosporus. Meaning?
        1. alone
          alone 2 July 2020 18: 12
          0
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          We have nothing to share with the Turks

          That's it .. The main thing in this matter is that they do not teach how to live .. And this is already a lot
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 2 July 2020 19: 13
            0
            They don’t teach how to live, but in Syria we are on different sides - this is a fact.
      3. Charik
        Charik 2 July 2020 20: 47
        -2
        I’ve sold my GDP to enemies, but the friends of Russia don’t have C400 to forgive yards and feed half the world, at least in Belarus-Kazakhstan-Armenia
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 2 July 2020 18: 30
      0
      Quote: 1976AG
      Isn't Turkey a potential enemy ??

      So to speak. Potential enemy as a NATO member. But at the same time, such a buyer is not frail. But also unforgettable about "Ruso Turisto". Cancellation of the tourist route is not a match for tomatoes. And so. Turkey is a neighbor on the Black Sea
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 2 July 2020 19: 15
        0
        In general, a potential enemy and a probable opponent are one and the same)
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha 2 July 2020 22: 22
          +1
          The enemy and the enemy are completely different concepts. An adversary can be both neutral and a friend without opposition, an enemy is always only an enemy.
  2. Nastia makarova
    Nastia makarova 2 July 2020 16: 01
    +1
    But what can they look at in the export version? China sold and nothing, the S-300 sold to many
  3. novel66
    novel66 2 July 2020 17: 09
    +2
    Lesha, do not be discouraged !!! plain!! everyone would be so simple ...
    1. WILL
      WILL 2 July 2020 17: 21
      +3
      Hi Roman! Well, what's so complicated about me? Two hands, two legs - and in the middle of Carnations ... plus knowledge of the charter and True Love for My Country.
      1. novel66
        novel66 2 July 2020 17: 22
        +3
        and training and special training, like, fuck? where is the love for the motherland and is laid? Hello my friend! hi
  • Civil
    Civil 2 July 2020 16: 17
    -3
    As if friend Razhap had not pushed anti-aircraft guns to mattresses, there would be a number.
    1. convoy
      convoy 2 July 2020 17: 54
      -1
      Quote: Civil
      As if friend Razhap had not pushed anti-aircraft guns to mattresses, there would be a number.

      Yes, the Amers have already clearly examined and tested .. That's just an export option .. Take China, they like to copy everything and everything, it’s just outwardly similar, and everything’s not so glorious ..
      I think this is all fuss, if only to annoy Russia hi
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 2 July 2020 15: 23
    +5
    Wow! Even beushkie nakolenke made from the tree Russian slingshots are so highly valued by the shining elves because of the puddle !!! Yes, it's just some kind of holiday!
    1. Clear
      Clear 2 July 2020 15: 33
      0
      Quote: Shuttle
      Wow! Even beushkie nakolenke made from the tree Russian slingshots are so highly valued by the shining elves because of the puddle !!! Yes, it's just some kind of holiday!

      Yes, and Turkish tomatoes are something that is not tasty No. , or while we will buy? Or not?
      1. Alexander I
        Alexander I 2 July 2020 15: 41
        +4
        yes fuck their tomatoes, its full
        1. Clear
          Clear 2 July 2020 15: 50
          +3
          Quote: AlexanderI
          yes fuck their tomatoes, its full

          But if so, then they are unlikely to sell our guns to the Americans. No.
          1. novel66
            novel66 2 July 2020 17: 10
            +1
            and there might be self-liquidator, as the 0 meridian crosses, bang and no
            1. Clear
              Clear 2 July 2020 22: 45
              +1
              Quote: novel xnumx
              and there might be self-liquidator, as the 0 meridian crosses, bang and no

              Well, that you are Roman, so scare, it’s a pity ... 0 meridian crying
      2. Russ
        Russ 2 July 2020 15: 52
        +1
        Beauty ... this is your choice ... to buy or whatever .... and politics is such a prostitute .... wassat
      3. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 2 July 2020 16: 02
        +4
        buy our Krasnodar))) at least a little more expensive but the taste is completely different
        1. Clear
          Clear 2 July 2020 16: 13
          +2
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          buy our Krasnodar))) at least a little more expensive but the taste is completely different

          I buy yours.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 2 July 2020 15: 27
    -3
    And the offer from the United States for Erdogad is also a check for lice, because if he gives the back one and sells C400 to the USA, or at least heals about the possibility of such a deal, then it’s clear that all the words about Turkey’s independent policy from the USA just words! And then we need to put pressure on the Turks, and depending on the answer, there are two options for the events - the cancellation of the contract with the return of the C400 to Russia, and the payment of money to the Turks. Or, in the event that Erdogad suddenly decides to precisely sell US complexes, they must be immediately destroyed. And with the Turks stop ANY cooperation in the military sphere.
  • Samara_63
    Samara_63 2 July 2020 15: 34
    +1
    Why sell Turkey? She needs air defense in the impending war
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 2 July 2020 15: 45
      +2
      To buy a bunch of complexes from the United States for the money and get US support in the war in Syria and Libya
      1. Samara_63
        Samara_63 2 July 2020 15: 52
        -2
        No, Turkey has other priorities, they need their own complex, in a future brutal war where the United States will not be an ally
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 3 July 2020 06: 50
        -1
        Do not forget: the USA has already been so fucked up in Iraq, Saudia and (it seems) Qatar (or the Emirates?) That these P-41s are now quite suitable for the construction of wave protection structures for beaches, but no one can even in their hearts call them a "system Air defense "! laughing laughing good
  • BARKAS
    BARKAS 2 July 2020 15: 36
    -2
    And how many sets of S-400 Turkey can buy for 10 billion?
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 2 July 2020 15: 46
    +1
    Erdogan received S-400 missiles and now, with apparent pleasure, blackmails in turn, then America, then Russia. laughing
    Hoping to snatch something from both great powers.
    You can give America a glimpse of the money that the S-400 has inside, and then take money from Russia so as not to resell to America. belay
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 2 July 2020 15: 53
      +4
      You still understand the logic of those people in your area of ​​others dumb.
    2. 1976AG
      1976AG 2 July 2020 15: 55
      +3
      And we type trusted Turkey endlessly and did not allow the fact that they could do this ?? Since they were sold to them, then everyone took it into account.
    3. Insurgent
      Insurgent 2 July 2020 15: 59
      -1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      to take money from Russia, so as not to resell to America

      Think primitively, not knowing the nuances of drafting contracts for the sale / transfer of weapons of a certain class ...
      FSVTS declared the impossibility of selling Turkish C-400 USA without Russia's consent

      Ankara will not be able to sell Washington S-400 air defense systems without the consent of Moscow, said Maria Vorobyova, spokeswoman for the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS).

      She explained that for the export of military products, the buyer of equipment must provide the Russian side with an end-user certificate.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 2 July 2020 16: 02
        -1
        "... present the end-user certificate to the Russian side." ///
        -----
        They will be loaded onto a transporter and taken to an American training ground. There they will check, measure the radars and bring them back.
        And what will Russia do? Express a note of protest?
        1. Liam
          Liam 2 July 2020 16: 08
          -1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          "... present the end-user certificate to the Russian side." ///
          -----
          They will be loaded onto a transporter and taken to an American training ground. There they will check, measure the radars and bring them back.
          And what will Russia do? Express a note of protest?

          Why all these difficulties. Everything you need is in Turkey itself .. without leaving the cash desk
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 2 July 2020 16: 10
          -1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          They will be loaded onto a transporter and taken to an American training ground. There they will check, measure the radars and bring them back.
          And what will Russia do? Express a note of protest?

          By doing so ("ugly"), Turkey will simply cross itself off the list of countries with which to do business ...

          Turks will never do this.
          1. 3danimal
            3danimal 11 July 2020 06: 31
            -2
            And who will stop doing business with them? RF, a number of former republics of the SSR?
        3. 1976AG
          1976AG 2 July 2020 16: 13
          +5
          Quote: voyaka uh
          "... present the end-user certificate to the Russian side." ///
          -----
          They will be loaded onto a transporter and taken to an American training ground. There they will check, measure the radars and bring them back.
          And what will Russia do? Express a note of protest?

          That is, you know how they can do it, and we were so naive when selling the type that we trusted them as the best allies? Do not consider others naive.
        4. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 2 July 2020 16: 16
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          They will be loaded onto a transporter and taken to an American training ground.


          How can you blame some people that they mistakenly drove to the wrong base, while others, out of purely children's curiosity, climbed into the typewriter? There is no cross on you!
        5. alone
          alone 2 July 2020 16: 53
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          They will be loaded onto a transporter and taken to an American training ground. There they will check, measure the radars and bring them back.

          Why? They can fit into Incirlik and do all this what you listed
  • Russ
    Russ 2 July 2020 15: 47
    +2
    It is noted that the latter can forget about the "unreliability" of Turkey for the United States if Ankara resells them Russian air defense systems.

    keywords .... NATO is NATO .......
  • prior
    prior 2 July 2020 15: 48
    +2
    Omerika! Why do you need used Turkish S-400. We can sell new ones, especially since they are all with self-liquidators.
  • Avior
    Avior 2 July 2020 15: 49
    -1
    . If Turkey decides to sell Russian air defense systems to the Americans, this will only mean one thing: the United States is ready to slide into a loss-making business, if only to somehow harm Russia.

    The Chinese wrote nonsense
    If such a sale takes place, although I do not really believe it, the Americans will not use them in the army, but to study the capabilities and training of their pilots
    On the basis of Nellis in Nevada, Americans collect radar samples from different sources just for such purposes
    1. bar
      bar 2 July 2020 16: 35
      +6
      The Chinese wrote nonsense

      It is not the Chinese who wrote stupidity, but the American senators senators froze stupidity. And now the whole world is discussing it.
      Erdogan did not buy the S-400 to sell it to the Americans. On the contrary, they bought them to defend themselves against those Americans. He was greatly frightened by the attempted American-Gulen coup. He realized that if this happened again, the American "petriots" would not be able to fight off the aircraft of "NATO partners". So he laid the straws in the form of the S-400.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 2 July 2020 17: 10
    0
    Striped shake the Turks as they want. However, Erdogan was not a timid dozen.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 2 July 2020 17: 24
    -1
    I’ve already hid on Cognac that the sultan will be trained! He is an experienced marketer, sees where it can be sweeter!
    Just in time for the election of Trump and he thinks, he will arrange a gift for his friend / ally Donald.
    Let's see in short.
  • Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 2 July 2020 17: 45
    -1
    Let them sell, but with the money they still buy laughing
  • Sergey Sfiedu
    Sergey Sfiedu 2 July 2020 18: 08
    -1
    Sohu is a Chinese Internet trash. Why refer to this guano if you can directly use the primary sources?
  • Charik
    Charik 2 July 2020 20: 42
    -1
    can sell it to the Americans - through intermediaries yards for a tsat - the GDP itself offered them - these are "super-super-missiles"
  • Charik
    Charik 2 July 2020 21: 03
    -1
    let him sell for 10 yards, repay debts, how much he owes there, if he stays, let him buy some more, he shakes it off for someone else, so you’ll look at it and he’ll stay with the complex and will return loans to Russia
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 3 July 2020 04: 39
    -1
    Erdogan .. will not shoot himself in the leg .. understands that He offers beads in exchange for a bow! sell onions .. to fight off the west will be beads))) then he will be cap!)))
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 July 2020 05: 57
    -2
    Hucksters, they are hucksters in Africa. They will sell their mother to their mother if it is profitable, and here politics is interfering. A difficult question, wait and see how it ends.
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 3 July 2020 22: 02
    0
    But why not ask the Americans to buy S-400 from Russia itself?
    In general, all this is very similar to the tale of the Lefty. You can even get a savvy flea at your disposal, but you also need to learn how to shoe it yourself.
    It’s like with Apple or Intel products. Buy, cut, penetrate. But try again and that's it, bye bye, here we are.
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 11 July 2020 06: 29
      -1
      So you just need to take off the radar characteristics in order to better apply countermeasures and tune the Garm "Garmov".