“Significantly superior to analogues”: Turkey has created the Sungur short-range air defense system

July 2 2020 95

Turkey's Sungur anti-aircraft missile defense system has successfully passed tests and is ready to enter service. This was announced yesterday by the head of the Turkish defense industry Ismail Demir on his Twitter page. This information was published by the Turkish agency Anadolu.

It can be used by the naval fleetand also be integrated for ground and air platforms. The Sungur air defense system was developed by Roketsan with the participation of other Turkish manufacturers. The missile can be launched from a mobile platform with the possibility of 360-degree rotation. The complex has the ability to detect, identify and track targets day and night.

Due to the high maneuverability and accuracy used by the titanium alloy, the aiming range of the Sungur air defense systems, according to Turkish media, "significantly exceeds the analogues of its class."

The basis of the Sungur complex is a rocket from a Turkish-made portable anti-aircraft missile system PorSav (Portatif Savunma). Two well-known companies took part in its development - Roketsan and Aselsan.

The launcher was mounted on the chassis of an armored Kirpi car with a 4x4 wheel arrangement. Deliveries of such armored vehicles to the Turkish army began in 2014.

Other air defense niches in Turkey are already experiencing HISAR short-range and medium-range air defense systems of their own production.

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alone

+1

2 July 2020 11: 25

The Turks have made a breakthrough in the creation of their own military-industrial complex over the past 10 years. I won’t be surprised that in a couple of years long-range air defense will appear
1. Fungus
  
  +6
  
  2 July 2020 11: 29
  
  They took the developments and technologies of NATO and other countries. So it's own with a stretch.
  1. alone
    
    +9
    
    2 July 2020 11: 32
    
    Quote: Fungus
    They took the developments and technologies of NATO and other countries. So it's own with a stretch.
    
    How to say. In addition to what you said there is another factor .. a lot of young people were sent to the cordon at the expense of the state, where they studied at technical universities. .. The state took part in the creation of personnel ..
    1. Shurik70
      
      +10
      
      2 July 2020 11: 37
      
      If this is Turkish air defense, why are there inscriptions on the remote control in English?
      By the way, the flag partially overlaps the all-round visibility. On such a machine, nothing should interfere with the launch of a rocket in any direction.
      1. alone
        
        -11
        
        2 July 2020 11: 46
        
        Quote: Shurik70
        If this is Turkish air defense, why are there inscriptions on the remote control in English?
        By the way, the flag partially overlaps the all-round visibility. On such a machine, nothing should interfere with the launch of a rocket in any direction.
        
        Russian tanks sold to Arabs also have inscriptions in Arabic .. according to your logic, the tanks are not Russian?
        
        Shurik70
        
        +13
        
        2 July 2020 12: 47
        
        Quote: lonely
        Russian tanks sold to Arabs also have inscriptions in Arabic .. according to your logic, the tanks are not Russian?
        
        Tanks in Russia have inscriptions in Russian.
        Tanks in the Arabs - in Arabic. Regardless of origin. This is logical.
        But the military equipment produced by the Turks, for Turkey - in English. This is strange.
        
        alone
        
        -12
        
        2 July 2020 12: 50
        
        Quote: Shurik70
        But the military equipment produced by the Turks, for Turkey - in English. This is strange.
        
        And export? Yes, and Turkey in NATO .. so do not be surprised ..
      2. Grazdanin
        
        +1
        
        2 July 2020 13: 51
        
        This is a commercial, everything that is shown on it is aimed at the presentation of this project. Including the flag.
      3. no better place for
        
        0
        
        2 July 2020 17: 22
        
        Under the NATO standard
  2. venik
    
    +10
    
    2 July 2020 12: 25
    
    Quote: Fungus
    They took the developments and technologies of NATO and other countries. So it's own with a stretch.
    
    ========
    If someone will tell me what I Saw "TURKISH element base (microprocessors, semiconductor elements, semiconductor crystals TURKISH production ..... I will be MUCH SURPRISED!). ALL dumb technology is just a COMPILATION IMPORT nodes and devices! No more!
    God forbid! I'm not going to "hait" the Turks - they could even so to do - well done! But at the same time - to praise Turks as "new Japan" or "new Korea", "new China" .... (well, or there - Taiwan, the Philippines, etc.) - I think too premature!
    1. Bagatur
      
      -12
      
      2 July 2020 13: 12
      
      If anyone will tell me what I Saw "TURKISH element base (microprocessors, semiconductor elements, semiconductor crystals of TURKISH production ..... I WILL BE STRONGLY SURPRISED!). And, the Russian ELEMENTAL BASE is what? "Our chips are the largest in the world."
      1. venik
        
        +7
        
        2 July 2020 14: 35
        
        Quote: bagatura
        And, the Russian ELEMENTAL BASE is what? "Our chips are the largest in the world."
        
        =======
        Aha! Since they are "the largest in the world" - does it mean THERE ARE ?!
        But TURKISH - "the smallest in the world" - NO ONE CAN see them !!!
        
        Bagatur
        
        -12
        
        2 July 2020 17: 13
        
        You can joke with each other as much as you like ... But this does not change the fact that Russia is 30 years behind the leading states.
        
        Stalllker
        
        +2
        
        4 July 2020 02: 55
        
        What ??? Any strange thing does something better, something worse. Someone makes good cars, and someone makes good tanks and this is normal!
      2. Stalllker
        
        +2
        
        4 July 2020 02: 52
        
        Russian microcircuits are "the most reliable" in the world, albeit "large".
    2. alone
      
      -8
      
      2 July 2020 16: 07
      
      All that you have listed is done in Aselsan Corporation. .
      And more than one year ... So do not be surprised ..
    3. no better place for
      
      -8
      
      2 July 2020 17: 24
      
      Aselsan has its own pro-Russia
      1. venik
        
        +1
        
        3 July 2020 16: 25
        
        Quote: neden
        Aselsan has its own pro-Russia
        
        ======
        ?? Yah!?
  3. EnGenius
    
    +5
    
    2 July 2020 16: 31
    
    "In 1990, Turkey received 148 Stinger launchers and 647 missiles from the United States. Subsequently, the Turkish company ROKETSAN began licensed production of FIM-92 missiles." Has the license turned into its own copy?
    1. Stalllker
      
      0
      
      4 July 2020 02: 57
      
      And the production of a closed cycle ??? Or does Turkey only make "candy wrapper", and the USA "stuffing" ?!
  4. no better place for
    
    -4
    
    2 July 2020 17: 23
    
    All when someone then took something
2. rocket757
  
  +5
  
  2 July 2020 11: 30
  
  Anything can appear ... most importantly, how will it work?
3. vadson
  
  +15
  
  2 July 2020 11: 32
  
  in the article not a word about network-centricity, where does the target designation come from? where tth? on what basis is indicated what is superior to analogues? as in the market, by golly - my tomatoes are better
  1. Tusv
    
    +5
    
    2 July 2020 11: 52
    
    Quote: vadson
    in the article not a word about network-centricity, where does the target designation come from? where tth?
    
    Well, like this. An analogue of the American Avenger. Small radar and thermal imager. In general, I do not quite reach the Shell and Thor
    1. Cyril G ...
      
      +2
      
      2 July 2020 15: 08
      
      Where you see the radar. Yemenis on the knee of a significantly more formidable device piled.
      1. alone
        
        -1
        
        2 July 2020 16: 09
        
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Where you see the radar. Yemenis on the knee of a significantly more formidable device piled.
        
        All Yemeni, what is being created, is the work of the Iranians ... Husits there under the patronage of Iran
        
        Cyril G ...
        
        +1
        
        2 July 2020 16: 11
        
        Not. This is not Iranian. A fully recognizable Ukrainian backlog
      2. Tusv
        
        -2
        
        2 July 2020 18: 19
        
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Where you see the radar
        
        Where did you see on radar airplanes? And there is a radar, or even two. And then just see 5 km. Then you can’t ground anyone with such missiles
    2. Grits
      
      +3
      
      3 July 2020 07: 02
      
      Quote: Tusv
      Quote: vadson
      in the article not a word about network-centricity, where does the target designation come from? where tth?
      
      Well, like this. An analogue of the American Avenger. Small radar and thermal imager. In general, I do not quite reach the Shell and Thor
      
      I think so, if you screw the Willow launchers onto the Typhoon, you will get even a little better than the Turks.
4. Grazdanin
  
  0
  
  2 July 2020 11: 32
  
  Quote: lonely
  in a couple of years, long-range air defense will appear
  Not a couple, about 5-10 years will be needed, long-range air defense is fundamentally more difficult.
  1. alone
    
    -3
    
    2 July 2020 11: 35
    
    Quote: Grazdanin
    Not a couple, about 5-10 years will be needed, long-range air defense is fundamentally more difficult.
    
    They already started working on it three or four years ago .. so half the term is left
    1. Grazdanin
      
      +1
      
      2 July 2020 11: 44
      
      With all due respect, but the task is very difficult. Unless you start licensed production.
      1. alone
        
        0
        
        2 July 2020 11: 50
        
        Some raw developments already exist .. but this is not a gun .. it takes time naturally .. but they have one more feature: they are persistent and they have a desire to create it .. and this is half the battle
        
        Grazdanin
        
        +1
        
        2 July 2020 12: 04
        
        It is clear that HISAR-U is approaching from 100 km, but 400 km like the C400 should be tried. I’m not saying that they won’t do it. I have the best bar in the class, I’m talking about them. The same supplies of C400 will make it possible to quickly make air defense systems with a range of 200-250 km, which is already very good.
      2. Cyril G ...
        
        0
        
        2 July 2020 15: 10
        
        If you sculpt yourself + 10 years from now. If the license + 5-7 years no less.
  2. Oquzyurd
    
    -2
    
    2 July 2020 12: 35
    
    Hisar-U air defense systems with a range of up to 70-90 km will be ready by 2023. Work on the Siper air defense system will be longer.
    1. Grazdanin
      
      +2
      
      2 July 2020 12: 39
      
      It is clear that for the Siper air defense work they need the C400 as a model.
      1. Oquzyurd
        
        0
        
        2 July 2020 12: 46
        
        Yes, there is some truth in this. It is not by chance that the Turks want to find an interesting part of technology for them.
        
        Grazdanin
        
        -1
        
        2 July 2020 14: 01
        
        Sungur, Korkut, HisarA / O in prospect U cover all the needs of short-medium-range air defense. Not bad. If you consider that there are UAVs on which you can hang a radar, then it’s very good.
5. Insurgent
  
  +4
  
  2 July 2020 11: 35
  
  Quote: lonely
  The Turks have made a breakthrough in the creation of their own military-industrial complex over the past 10 years. I won’t be surprised that in a couple of years long-range air defense will appear
  
  It is clear that one who does something will succeed sooner or later ...
  
  And so, the article amused the phrase:
  
  Due to the high maneuverability and accuracy used by the titanium alloy, the aiming range of the Sungur air defense systems, according to Turkish media, "significantly exceeds the analogues of its class."
  
  Okay, everyone else. "superior"let the characteristics remain on the conscience of the Turks, but how"used titanium alloy"influenced them so significantly?
  Or the use of titanium and alloys is exclusively theirs "know-how"?
  1. Grazdanin
    
    0
    
    2 July 2020 11: 39
    
    The original must be read, VO "beautifully" retells.
6. gorecc
  
  +4
  
  2 July 2020 11: 42
  
  will not appear. Turkey still does not have its own air defense of medium radius, only such whistles from the MANPADS of the type of atiglan and this sangar. That's when they create an air defense system capable of intercepting targets within a 40-50km radius of commercials, then it will already be possible to stutter about long-range air defense ..
  1. alone
    
    +3
    
    2 July 2020 11: 53
    
    Quote: Gorecc
    will not appear. Turkey still does not have its own air defense of medium radius, only such whistles from the MANPADS of the type of atiglan and this sangar. That's when they create an air defense system capable of intercepting targets within a 40-50km radius of commercials, then it will already be possible to stutter about long-range air defense ..
    
    You have the wrong information .. adopted by Hisar O. And this is already an average range. 45 km
    1. gorecc
      
      +1
      
      2 July 2020 11: 59
      
      I heard that Hisar-O has a range of 25 km (and this is not very much) and yes, I didn’t hear that this complex was adopted in service .. can you throw a link saying otherwise?
  2. Grazdanin
    
    0
    
    2 July 2020 11: 53
    
    Read about HISAR-O (40 km in range) getting ready for delivery to the army, HISAR-U (100 km in range) on the way.
    1. gorecc
      
      +1
      
      2 July 2020 12: 05
      
      if the Turks had a real air defense approaching with an interception range of 100 km, they would never have bought a c400, but would have invested this money in the purchase and further improvement of their air defense systems!
      maybe Turkey has plans and some achievements on long-range air defense, but this is all at an embryonic level .. and many more years will pass before they put real long-range air defense systems into the troops.
      1. alone
        
        0
        
        2 July 2020 12: 10
        
        Quote: Gorecc
        if the Turks had a real air defense approaching with an interception range of 100 km, they would never have bought a c400, but would have invested this money in the purchase and further improvement of their air defense systems!
        
        The purchase of the S-400 is a half-political move to indicate the US its place ..
      2. Grazdanin
        
        0
        
        2 July 2020 12: 20
        
        Quote: Gorecc
        if the Turks had on their way a real air defense system with an interception range of 100 km, they would never have bought a c400,
        
        C400 is a fundamentally different level, surpassing all Turkish developments by a head. In the world of such systems, you can count on the fingers of one hand.
      3. Cyril G ...
        
        0
        
        2 July 2020 15: 11
        
        Quote: Gorecc
        if the Turks had a real air defense approaching with an interception range of 100 km, they would never have bought a c400, but would have invested this money in the purchase and further improvement of their air defense systems!
        
        Perhaps so, although there are many unclear points
7. iouris
  
  -1
  
  2 July 2020 12: 22
  
  Quote: lonely
  I won’t be surprised
  
  Not everything is so simple, but we will observe. The point is that tectonic changes will occur. It is known: life is not so much beautiful as amazing.
8. businessv
  
  +2
  
  2 July 2020 12: 54
  
  Quote: lonely
  I won’t be surprised that in a couple of years long-range air defense will appear
  MANPADS mounted on an armored car, I do not exclude the kit in the form of a visor, rangefinder and other attributes of a successful air defense system, but I doubt very much that in the near future a really full-fledged air defense system of short range will be available, not that medium, and even less so, long-range one.
  1. Grazdanin
    
    0
    
    2 July 2020 13: 15
    
    HISAR-A in the army this year.
9. TermNachTer
  
  0
  
  2 July 2020 18: 44
  
  I think they won’t appear even after 10. Take a MANPADS and put it in the car, a lot of mind is not necessary. To create a long-range air defense system is not to sell tomatoes.
10. orionvitt
  
  0
  
  2 July 2020 22: 01
  
  Quote: lonely
  The Turks over the past 10 years have made a breakthrough in creating their own defense industry
  
  Well, what’s the feat? They created a system, the analogs of which, ours developed 50 years ago, and this at the same level of development of electronics. And today, taking into account modern technologies and the element base, this is not a breakthrough at all, but later ignition.
  1. alone
    
    +1
    
    3 July 2020 00: 28
    
    Quote: orionvitt
    Quote: lonely
    The Turks over the past 10 years have made a breakthrough in creating their own defense industry
    
    Well, what’s the feat? They created a system, the analogs of which, ours developed 50 years ago, and this at the same level of development of electronics. And today, taking into account modern technologies and the element base, this is not a breakthrough at all, but later ignition.
    
    It’s not only about the Air Defense. 40 years ago they exported everything, and now they provide the army with 75% of their own weapons. And this means the development of industry, the creation of a large number of jobs. + They began to export weapons. That’s a feat. 40 years ago there wasn’t more than one normal weapons engineer. And now there are a lot of them
Lipchanin

-1

2 July 2020 11: 27

It can be used by the navy and also be integrated for ground and air platforms.

Well, straight at all trades with boredom
rocket757

0

2 July 2020 11: 30

This is normal. This is just another frog \ sandpiper drew.
Samara_63

-16

2 July 2020 11: 34

Kirpi, by the way, is a successful car, it would be nice for ours to buy one, it’s worthless to drive a famous oligarch’s car on unsuccessful, rusty, cramped, poorly armored cars, apparently he buys MOs for kickbacks
Our military police somehow looked funny on clumsy cars, Kirpi are more spacious and comfortable
1. NDR-791
  
  -1
  
  2 July 2020 11: 37
  
  Kirpi, by the way, is a good car, it would be nice for ours to buy ...
  It would be nice to make your own.
  1. Samara_63
    
    -12
    
    2 July 2020 11: 41
    
    Something they don’t go their own, they rust quickly, the engine is weak, on mines there everyone dies
    1. NDR-791
      
      +4
      
      2 July 2020 11: 43
      
      Well, that's it ... It all went missing ...
2. Insurgent
  
  +2
  
  2 July 2020 11: 51
  
  Quote: Samara_63
  Our military police somehow looked funny on clumsy cars, Kirpi are more spacious and comfortable
  
  Yes, Yes the cart (arba) Vuran, from the same manufacturer BMC ...
3. Grazdanin
  
  -1
  
  2 July 2020 12: 15
  
  Quote: Samara_63
  Kirpi, by the way, is a successful car, it would be nice for ours to buy
  
  Do not exaggerate, a good "armored car" no more, the same as the Typhoons.
4. loki565
  
  +3
  
  2 July 2020 17: 52
  
  Kirpi, by the way, is a successful car, it would be nice for ours to buy
  
  Already "bought"
gorecc

+4

2 July 2020 11: 38

a missile from the man-portable air defense system, which means that the ceiling will be at a maximum of 4 km .. well, to fight against a UAV, it’s suitable for extremes against junk like mig21, but there’s nothing to catch against modern aircraft. It would be better if they created a normal medium-range air defense system, the same Iranians under sanctions succeeded in this matter ..
1. Grazdanin
  
  -1
  
  2 July 2020 11: 58
  
  The article is a classic short-range air defense system, HISAR-A small, HISAR-O medium, HISAR-U - medium long-range
  1. TermNachTer
    
    0
    
    2 July 2020 18: 50
    
    The average range is 40-50 km. in range and 10-12 km. in height. How long does the Turkish "karamultuk" shoot?
    1. Grazdanin
      
      0
      
      2 July 2020 18: 52
      
      https://topwar.ru/105322-v-turcii-provedeno-uspeshnoe-ispytanie-sistemy-pvo-hisar-o.html
2. alone
  
  0
  
  2 July 2020 12: 12
  
  Quote: Gorecc
  a missile from the man-portable air defense system, which means that the ceiling will be at a maximum of 4 km .. well, to fight against a UAV, it’s suitable for extremes against junk like mig21, but there’s nothing to catch against modern aircraft. It would be better if they created a normal medium-range air defense system, the same Iranians under sanctions succeeded in this matter ..
  
  Well, this is just the MANPADS that were put on an armored vehicle so that the infantry would not run from the MANPADS ..
  1. Cyril G ...
    
    0
    
    2 July 2020 15: 15
    
    And you know this stupid decision. Today. Let me remind Yemen for the third time in a week
    1. Grazdanin
      
      0
      
      2 July 2020 15: 40
      
      Yemeni decision from an excess of missiles and lack of media, a thing in itself, for that theater. As I understand it, the Turks are building their layered air defense. Sungur, Korkut, HisarA for near zone, HisarA / O short range, Hisar O / U medium range.
  2. TermNachTer
    
    +1
    
    2 July 2020 18: 52
    
    So get into a rather big little car is much easier than a single soldier. A / m is clearly visible and IR - and RL - ranges.
  3. chingachguc
    
    0
    
    5 July 2020 16: 17
    
    be silent if you do not think. The most important advantage of a rocket disappears: figurative !! A fighter with MANPADS is practically invisible from above. This armored fool to slam even from the air, even from the ground is much easier.
3. chingachguc
  
  0
  
  5 July 2020 16: 21
  
  But it’s much easier to stick a portable missile into a little car and call this SAM.
Pavel57

0

2 July 2020 11: 47

Well done, mastered many useful technologies. And the issue of rocket efficiency is tested under real-world conditions of interference.
svp67

+4

2 July 2020 11: 57

Turkey more and more begins to arm its army with weapons not only of its own production, but also of its own design. Starting with the licensed release of NATO weapons, primarily American ones, the Turks are now putting their developments on their conveyors and this can only speak about the huge ambitions of the Turkish leadership and personally Erdogan
1. Grazdanin
  
  +2
  
  2 July 2020 12: 07
  
  This is the development of the entire industry of Turkey. Such industries require specialists, engineers, scientists, universities, infrastructure. By creating all this, the general level of industry is growing. This is the main goal, buying abroad is always easier and cheaper.
Alien From

+1

2 July 2020 12: 04

But the Turks do serious things .....!
Free wind

+1

2 July 2020 12: 07

They have already written about the armored car. The American Hydra-70 is taken as a basis. Unguided rocket. airbasing. Quite reliable missile, range 11 km. A guidance and control unit was created for it, the engine was modified, and a Dart MANPADS was obtained. The declared range is up to 15 km. It seems like it has been sold to the emirates since 14. This missile was installed on an armored car, the guidance system was changed again. It can be placed anywhere, as long as there are guides from Hydra. Main characteristics
from the dart.
1. Grazdanin
  
  +4
  
  2 July 2020 12: 30
  
  I think you're confusing cars.
  The basis of the Sungur complex is a rocket from a Turkish-made portable anti-aircraft missile system PorSav (Portatif Savunma).
2. chingachguc
  
  0
  
  5 July 2020 16: 13
  
  what 15 km are there? these are completely different dimensions and weight. Maximum 4 km or less
alone

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2 July 2020 12: 16

A country that 30-40 years ago was completely dependent on external supplies, today provides its army with 75% of its own weapons .. Moreover, these 75% are not considered the limit .. They have developed a government program that does everything to turn these 75 into everything 100 ... people work
APASUS

+1

2 July 2020 12: 17

There is no all-round radar, so you need to work in pairs. The tracking ranges are infrared and optical, so no breakthrough is visible
1. Grazdanin
  
  +4
  
  2 July 2020 12: 27
  
  This is an analogue of Bending-S, Avenger. Naturally, there is no breakthrough at the world level, but for Turkey it is a success.
Vlad Malkin

0

2 July 2020 12: 43

The Turks are working slowly! Little by little, but moving forward!
5-9

0

2 July 2020 13: 14

A MANPADS with a turret and some kind of surveillance device .... how could this be better than other similar low-cost ersatz-air defense systems? Here everything depends on 50% of the MANPADS (even in the suitability, and not the best, Turkish has doubts) and 50% on the automatic aiming system from an external source (about this - silence).
The Tiger with the Needle or the ancient Avenger is probably better ...
1. chingachguc
  
  0
  
  5 July 2020 16: 06
  
  and a lone man with MANPADS is even better
Charik

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2 July 2020 14: 11
-That's analogue is not particularly armored
Cyril G ...

-1

2 July 2020 15: 45

Quote: Grazdanin
thing in itself, for that theater.

No not like this. For any theater. The only right decision today is to have an air defense system even of short range at all altitudes, in order to make the operations of manned and unmanned aircraft as difficult as possible ...
1. 5-9
  
  0
  
  2 July 2020 15: 50
  
  If it is all-height, then it will already be medium-range .... to teach a rocket to fly only up without increasing range is not very possible and necessary
  1. Cyril G ...
    
    0
    
    2 July 2020 16: 03
    
    Yemen to help you
Stalllker

+1

4 July 2020 02: 48

A Russian soldier with a "Verba" MANPADS can also circle 360 °, and the declination / elevation angle is -90 ° / + 90 °
V1er

0

4 July 2020 09: 28
Bending s. There are 4 pzrk willow.
chingachguc

0

5 July 2020 16: 02

Put MANPADS on the chassis and rejoice. Why? That MANPADS are now easier to destroy? What is the advantage of this system from MANPADS in the trunk? Four fighters hidden in the bushes are much worse than this wonder
chingachguc

0

5 July 2020 16: 42

Installing MANPADS on the chassis I think is certainly harmful. Evidence:
Situation No. 1. Motorized rifle company. 4 platoons, 12 infantry fighting vehicles. Each platoon normally has 1 MANPADS crew, that is, every third BMP carries anti-aircraft missiles inside. The company is on the march. The sudden appearance of a couple of helicopters. An air raid alert is announced. Four BMPs "spit out" MANPADS calculations, which simultaneously attack helicopters from four points (dispersed).

Situation number 2. Everything is the same, only some wise guy decided to put these same four MANPADS on an armored car. Company on the march. Helicopter raid. Air alert. Fire opens ONE !! anti-aircraft point. True, massive.

Question: whose air defense is better?