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Ukraine: France invited us to analyze the data of "black boxes" of a Boeing shot down over Iran

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Ukraine: France invited us to analyze the data of "black boxes" of a Boeing shot down over Iran

It is reported that the date of analysis of the information from the flight recorders of the plane shot down by the Ukrainian airline UIA in Tehran’s region is reported. A few days ago, Iran handed over the "black boxes" of the Ukrainian Boeing 737 to France.


According to the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Yevgeny Enin, his country received an invitation from France - to begin a joint study of the data of the Boeing RS752 flight recorders. According to Enin, Ukrainian experts will arrive in French Lyon by July 20. It is on this day that an analysis of the information of the "black boxes" is scheduled.

A Ukrainian Facebook official writes:

The task of Ukraine is to ensure the maximum level of international recognition of the facts of unlawful interference in the case of flight PS752. This will bring us all closer to establishing justice and decent compensation for the families of the victims!


It is worth paying attention to the fact that the word "compensation" in the statements of Ukrainian officials began to appear more and more often.

By and large, everything has been clear in this matter for a long time: Iran acknowledged that it was his calculation of air defense equipment that brought down the Ukrainian Boeing, and said that it was ready to pay about 900 thousand dollars to the families of the victims. And, apparently, the Ukrainian authorities intend not only to make money on the tragedy that occurred in January, but also to earn as much as possible. For this, a new performance with "international recognition" is arranged. It is interesting, but who until now has not recognized the fact of striking an airliner from an air defense system of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps - after they themselves recognized this in Tehran?
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 2 July 2020 06: 40
    +3
    Compensation of course will pay. Moreover, they recognized themselves. The question is different. On the plane were citizens of different countries. About money Taldychat some rogues.
    1. Finches
      Finches 2 July 2020 06: 55
      0
      I think France invited you to replace chocolate closet cleaners - since their life is priceless, and they take more money for work than non-Slaves from Independent ... laughing
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 2 July 2020 06: 59
        +2
        The task of Ukraine is to ensure the maximum level of international recognition of the facts of unlawful interference in the case of flight PS752. This will bring us all closer to establishing justice and decent compensation for the families of the victims!

        That is, the task of finding out the truth, understanding the course of the disaster is not worth it from the very beginning.
        "Unlawful interference" and compensation are all these people need. And the second is possible without the first, but this way the amounts will be less.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 2 July 2020 08: 14
          +4
          Ukraine: France invited us to analyze the data of "black boxes" of a Boeing shot down over Iran
          Deputy Head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Yevgeniy Yenin: "
          The task of Ukraine is to ensure the maximum level of international recognition of the facts of unlawful interference in the case of flight PS752. This will bring all of us closer to the establishment of justice and worthy compensation for the families of the victims! "

          The cunning of Ukraine and France is to strengthen the position of Ukraine as the accuser in the eyes of the world public at the trial in the Netherlands on the case of the fall of the Malaysian liner MH-17.
          These are:
          1) additionally whitewash Ukraine itself;
          2) win over to your side - "buy" - interested persons in this matter;
          3) for this, to support allegedly having Ukraine a professionally well-established authority in Ukraine’s participation in the international investigation of the liner catastrophe over the DPR and allegedly objectivity of the data and conclusions received by the investigation;
          4) to divert from Ukraine itself all sorts of suspicions of Ukraine’s accusation of shooting down the liner not by Ukraine itself, but by the air defense forces of the DPR and the Russian Federation.
        2. iouris
          iouris 2 July 2020 12: 54
          -2
          Quote: Mitroha
          the task of finding out the truth, understanding the course of the disaster is not worth it from the very beginning

          This is not a "plane crash"; not a "catastrophe" but an "emergency". Everything has been clear for a long time. Analysis of primary materials of objective control is a formality that can add nothing to what has long been understood.
          1. Mitroha
            Mitroha 2 July 2020 17: 13
            0
            Well, if you need only compensation, then yes, everything has been clear for a long time.
            But I’d be interested in the reason for the series of strange gestures around this flight
    2. Avior
      Avior 2 July 2020 07: 11
      -2
      The plane was Ukrainian
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 2 July 2020 08: 32
        10
        Quote: Avior
        The plane was Ukrainian

        However in the downing of a MALASIAN airliner in 2014 over the territory of the DPR Malaysia itself to any international investigation so not allowed!

        There are DUAL STANDARDS in relation to Ukraine in the world - and the question immediately arises: why, who and why are they needed ?!
        1. Avior
          Avior 2 July 2020 08: 52
          -2
          Who told you? They admitted, and she participated in the investigation.
          Someone misled you.
          Here is the prosecutor from Malaysia sitting on the left

          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 2 July 2020 09: 20
            0
            Quote: Avior
            Here is the prosecutor from Malaysia sitting on the left

            So what of the fact that he "sits" there?

            Malaysian Boeing: the Dutch conducted a fake investigation. 25.07.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX
            1. Avior
              Avior 2 July 2020 09: 56
              -1
              And where does it say that Malaysia did not take part in the investigation?
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 2 July 2020 10: 21
                +2
                I accepted, but not from the MAIN entrance, as it should be, namely, contrary to the aspiration of the same Ukraine and personally Petro Poroshenko.
                International Investigators Have Prepared Malaysia's Backdoor Investigation - Equivalent to Malaysia's "Ban" and "Non-Participation" in the investigation itself. But Russia was not allowed to be investigated at all, although Russia is voiced in accusations from Ukraine.

                See video:
                0:00 min It is in this very beginning that the Prime Minister of Malaysia accuses foreign investigators in the video, as a result of which fraud was allowed in the investigation of the crash of the MN-17 airliner,
                from 0:48 min. On the attempts by the United States and Ukraine to intercept "black boxes" from Malaysia.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 2 July 2020 13: 54
                  0
                  . Malaysia was never allowed into any international investigation!

                  Your words? Malaysia participated in the investigation.
                  And the Prime Minister and the prosecutor's office of Malaysia are different offices, the prosecutor’s office participated in the investigation, as expected
            2. Avior
              Avior 2 July 2020 10: 04
              -1
              . Participating in the investigation along with the Netherlands, are the four other members of the joint investigation team (JIT), [236] Belgium, Ukraine, Australia, and lastly, Malaysia, [237] which joined in November 2014. [236]

              In black and white. List of participants
              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17#Criminal_investigation
          2. Tatyana
            Tatyana 2 July 2020 09: 55
            +3
            Quote: Avior
            Who told you? They admitted, and she participated in the investigation. Someone misled you.
            The issue of obstacles to the Malaysian authorities from Ukraine to the investigation of the downed Malaysian Boeing MH-17 over the DPR was tracked by the VO participants in the media from the very beginning - how it all happened.

            "They want to hide the truth about the crash of the Malaysian Boeing" • 14 Jan. 2015


            2014 Militias handed over Boeing's “black boxes” to experts from Malaysia. August 16, 2014
            1. Avior
              Avior 2 July 2020 09: 59
              0
              And here where it is stated that Malaysia was not allowed to participate in the investigation, as you wrote?
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 2 July 2020 12: 25
                -1
                Quote: Avior
                . Participating in the investigation along with the Netherlands, are the four other members of the joint investigation team (JIT), [236] Belgium, Ukraine, Australia, and lastly, Malaysia, [237] which joined in November 2014. [236] In black and white. List of participants

                First, I translate your quote from English
                Along with the Netherlands, four more members of the Joint Investigative Group (JIT) are participating in the investigation - Belgium, Ukraine, Australia and, finally, Malaysia, which joined them in NOVEMBER 2014.[236]

                А until November 2014 where was malaysia? She was not there!

                EVENT CHRONOLOGY
                On July 17, 2014, in the east of the Donetsk region of Ukraine, a plane of flight MH17 was shot down.
                August 7, 2014 - not in NOVEMBER - A Joint Investigation Team (JIT) was created, which included representatives from Australia, Belgium, the Netherlands and Ukraine, who wanted to work together on a criminal investigation into the crime. And only then, in November 2014, Malaysia was admitted to the group.
                Etc.

                V. V. Pyakin Malaysian Boeing 777: decoding of "black boxes".
                What EVERYONE KNOWS AND WHY SILENT. August 28, 2014
                Why does Russia not participate in decoding the "black boxes", why does it take so long to decrypt the "black boxes", who and what knows about the downed plane, and why this someone is silent. Analytics of events on ...
                1. Avior
                  Avior 2 July 2020 13: 55
                  +1
                  Well, you need to verbose.
                  You wrote that Malaysia is unacceptable. I see, now admit that they allowed
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 2 July 2020 14: 31
                    +1
                    Well, actually, from the very beginning I had in mind the process not so much formal, as HISTORALLY on the merits of the issue.

                    After all, you mean only the FORMAL side of the matter - with the formal entry of Malaysia into an international investigation team, in which Malaysia was initially required only NOMINAL participation (as from the nominal director of some one-day company) from the United States, the "collective West" and Ukraine, and in the end it all came down to this - to the complete submission of the sovereignty of Malaysia's investigation on this issue to the United States of America and the "collective West" on the side of Ukraine.

                    Namely. Malaysia was simply pressured and SUBMITTED to its sovereignty by the United States in the interests of the United States, the "collective West" and Ukraine.

                    Can this in fact be considered OBJECTIVE by Malaysia’s agreement in a GENERAL investigation of the international commission of inquiry of the fall of the Malaysian Boeing over the DPR after it entered this commission of inquiry? Yes of course not!
                    Objectively, the RATED participation of Malaysia in the international commission of inquiry can simply not be taken into account and call a spade a spade, because the opinion of Malaysia itself was a consequence of the attention DELETED and compromised reformatted!
    3. Avior
      Avior 2 July 2020 07: 18
      -2
      . MUNICH / Germany /, February 15. / TASS /. The authorities of Canada, Afghanistan, the United Kingdom, Sweden and Ukraine are demanding that Iran immediately pay compensation to the families of the dead passengers of the Ukrainian plane, which was mistakenly shot down in the sky over Tehran. This was announced on Saturday to journalists in Munich by the head of the Canadian Foreign Ministry, François-Philippe Champagne.

      "We insist that Iran urgently pay compensation to the families of the victims in accordance with international standards," CBC quoted him as saying. According to the minister, the amount of compensation should be the same for everyone who is entitled to it, and the payment process should begin "as soon as possible."

      "We will judge Iran by its actions, not by its statements," the minister stressed. Champagne said that on the sidelines of the 56th Munich Security Conference, the foreign ministers of these countries met with Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif and conveyed these demands to him.
      1. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 2 July 2020 09: 27
        +2
        Really double standards. For the downed Iranian Boeing mattresses did not even apologize, Ukraine still did not resolve issues regarding our downed passenger TU.
        1. Avior
          Avior 2 July 2020 09: 32
          -4
          In both cases, compensation was paid without recognition of force.
          Iran and Russia agreed in both cases.
          1. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 2 July 2020 10: 25
            +2
            That's the thing Sergey. How much was considered necessary, so much was given. Recognition of guilt, in the situation with Iran, would affect the alignment of forces in the Gulf region. Now Ukraine is turning more and more on the navel and grabbing money and giving the Americans a fool.
            1. Avior
              Avior 2 July 2020 14: 00
              +1
              The Americans gave 300 thousand for the able-bodied, 150 for the dependent
              Ukraine 200 thousand each
              All parties - Iran, Russia, Israel agreed with these amounts, as well as with the terms of payments
              Tamnik there can be no questions
              No one bothered Iran to prove US guilt. But they didn’t want, everything was not obvious there - the Iranians themselves sent the plane directly to the battlefield.
        2. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 2 July 2020 12: 55
          0
          For Iranian Boeing, the United States paid a rather large compensation.
          And the amount was agreed with Iran
    4. Egoza
      Egoza 2 July 2020 07: 22
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      About money Taldychat some rogues.

      Estessssno! Compensations will be paid, BUT ordinary citizens doubt that they will reach them, and officials think how much can be stolen.
    5. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 2 July 2020 07: 42
      0
      Maybe because the compensation includes not only payments to relatives, but also the cost of the aircraft and airline losses?
  2. Victor_B
    Victor_B 2 July 2020 06: 43
    0
    Quote: 210ox
    About money Taldychat some rogues.

    So there was a full plane of them.
    Canadians.
    Ukrainians. Emigrants.
    1. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 2 July 2020 07: 07
      +1
      Quote: Victor_B
      Ukrainians. Emigrants.

      There were only two Ukrainians among the passengers. And most Canadians are ethnic Persians.
    2. Avior
      Avior 2 July 2020 07: 11
      0
      There were Canadians of Iranian descent
  3. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 2 July 2020 06: 47
    +2
    By and large, everything has been clear in this matter for a long time: Iran admitted that it was his calculation of air defense systems that brought down the Ukrainian Boeing,

    But when they shot down ...
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 2 July 2020 06: 58
    -2
    The biggest mistake of the Iranians is the fact of transferring the recorders to the French! Decryption results are now falsified with a million percent guarantee!
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 2 July 2020 08: 04
      +1
      The Iranians said so that they themselves were shot down. And without extraneous external influences. What and how are falsified in boxes, and why?
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 2 July 2020 07: 11
    0
    So then everything is clear, but they will pull on themselves ...
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 July 2020 07: 15
    -3
    It is interesting, but who until now has not recognized the fact of striking an airliner from an air defense system of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps - after they themselves recognized this in Tehran?
    Ukronazists make grandmother on the blood of their fellow citizens.
  7. Evil 55
    Evil 55 2 July 2020 07: 39
    0
    Everywhere they have "illegal interference" more like a collective insanity.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 July 2020 09: 28
    +1
    The task of Ukraine is to ensure the maximum level of international recognition of the facts of unlawful interference in the case of flight PS752
    If not Ukraine, then who? Well, why so energetically "in a row with a pig's snout"? Who is going to interfere and what? Iran has officially admitted its guilt, why then demonstratively beat the hoof to show its importance?
    1. Avior
      Avior 2 July 2020 10: 06
      0
      He never paid money
      What everyone reminds him of
  9. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 2 July 2020 16: 46
    0
    What a blessing! The main thing is to put on embroidered shirts! And pots ...