Data on the preliminary results of voting on the Constitution. Interview

As of the current moment, more than 99% of the protocols have been processed based on the results of the voting held in Russia from June 25 to July 1. Citizens of the country were asked by the authorities to answer the question of whether they support amendments to the Constitution. At the same time, there was only one question in the ballot, suggesting the so-called “package” voting.

According to the CEC, the turnout at the vote on constitutional amendments was 65%. A few hours ago it was reported that about 76% of the voters put a mark in the “For” box. Thus, it turned out that as a whole 49,4% support the amendments - less than half of the total number of Russians entitled to vote.

Some time ago, the CEC announced that the number of voters voted for the amendments was 78 with a small percentage. In the same scenario (about 65% of the turnout), the total number of Russians who supported the proposed amendments to the fundamental law is 50,7% - respectively, more than half of all citizens entitled to vote.

It is noted that 21,16% of Russians, after processing 99,1% of the protocols, voted against the amendments.

We invite our readers to talk about whether they (you) took part in the vote and to participate in our poll regarding which option (For or Against) of the amendments to the vote was chosen.

Comments

[The leader of the Redskins]

I quote from the early:
"... We promised you to win?
...Yes...
And We won! ... "
All. The curtain....

[Thrifty]

Nazariy - "won" or rather, they screwed us up when they made a two-in-one sandwich - amendments to the constitution, and the question of self-zeroing of the terms of the reign to the supreme self-zero! If it were only about amendments to the constitution, the turnout would be, like the results, completely different! People are simply tired of eternal promises, of the lies of the authorities, of the impossibility of influencing the future of our country. So, the results were such that they are needed not by the people of the country, but by the Kremlin!

[mdsr]

Quote: Thrifty

Nazariy - "won" or, more precisely, they screwed us up when they made a two-in-one sandwich - amendments to the constitution, and the question of self-zeroing of the terms of the reign to the supreme self-zero!

What did you think? What will be all honestly? No, citizens. The Ozerkovsky did not come to power in order to give it so easily. Yes, and do not give such a feeder without a fight. And you are here about the voting ballot. Naive and stupid

[Deck]

Changes since 2000 in Russia

Of schools
It was: 68
It became: 40 800

Hospitals
It was: 10
It became: 5 300

Emergency housing
It was: 9.5 million square meters. m
It became: 25.5 million square meters. m

Officials
It was: 1
It became: 2 156 300

Billionaires
It was: 0
It became: 99

Probably just the constitution was bad.

[Herman 4223]

It is bad, and it remains so until a new one appears. This rubbish needs to be changed completely.

[Deck]

That is, the current (or eternal president) guaranteed it for 20 years, guaranteed but not guaranteed? Exhausted and asked for another 20 years?

[Herman 4223]

Tereshkova asked Valentina, she was supported. I personally do not mind. The main thing is that there is a turning point in the structure of the state, a complete abolition of the constitution of ebn.

[Pereira]

Full cancellation will no longer be. The guarantor guarantees another 20 years.

[Vladimir16]

Quote: Thrifty

Nazariy - "won" or rather, they fucked us when ...

God grant that it would be so with you further.
What would you always have in Russia.
Liberty sheets of all stripes and thieving bureaucrats now scratch turnips and give how to live on.
Get used to it.

The people voted for the amendments.
No buggers.
No subjects of other states in the power of Russia.
No to the Japanese and other dill. No islands or peninsulas.
No laws of Europe and the United States on our land.
Well and so on on the list.

[Uran53]

About the relatives of those who are in power for some reason "forgot", with the Japanese and dill, you can negotiate, and so in Russia they did not much complain. Question: so what is the victory?

[Campanella]

"Not very much liked" is not an argument.
No one thought that the USSR might suddenly fall apart, and you will reprimand.
They’ll try this sweet LGBT and you won’t stop it. It's just that life is such a struggle for balance.
There will be no balance and there will be no life.
Why is such crap happening in the West, because people have been taken away from real freedom, and instead of it all stuff is shoved and called it free choice. And we pray for this stinking rotten west and do not even want to think.
Here, all the time, the advocates of capitalism, stubborn to the end, crawl out of their pants, watering communism! They have chestnuts in place of their brains!

[MBRSS]

No to the Japanese and other dill. No islands or peninsulas.

Can the Chinese be? (This is me about Damansky and other islands that Putin gave.)

[U-58]

Valentina Tereshkova
For the epic deflection
They repaired what they gave
Over space flight ©

[Yarik]

A fracture in the state will not happen, until such as you have a fracture in the brain. As long as there are people like you who are hoping for a 1000 ruble increase in pension from Siluanov: travel, support children (as in China), do not choose what to buy for the last penny, BREAD or medicine ... There will NOT be a fracture. Not for this they are engaged in forgery, stuffing and other abominations that would leave the king on the throne.

[Herman 4223]

I don’t know about you, but personally I don’t hope for anything with the current state structure. Only we have different understandings of the one who rules in our country. For you it is king, but for me it is the United States through international institutions and thanks to the EBN constitution. Therefore, there can be no benefits in the country until the whole system changes.

[Campanella]

It’s right so long as people like you think that Putin is the fiend of hell and doesn’t understand the simple thing that he is the copyright of the Western system of values.
King Navalny will come, or any other will be the same.
It is necessary to leave the system of "Western values" Then there will be a chance to remain human.
And I know only one idea opposing this capitalist sabbath-socialism-communism!

[qQQQ]

Quote: Campanella

It’s right so long as people like you think that Putin is the fiend of hell and doesn’t understand the simple thing that he is the copyright of the Western system of values.
King Navalny will come, or any other will be the same.
It is necessary to leave the system of "Western values" Then there will be a chance to remain human.
And I know only one idea opposing this capitalist sabbath-socialism-communism!

I categorically support that there is no difference who was in power (will be) under the existing state system.

[DVR]

It’s right so long as people like you think that Putin is the fiend of hell and doesn’t understand the simple thing that he is the copyright of the Western system of values.
King Navalny will come, or any other will be the same.

You have cognitive dissonance.

It is necessary to leave the system of "Western values" Then there will be a chance to remain human. And I only know one idea opposed to this capitalist sabbath-socialism-communism

Your suggestions? What are we doing, comrade?

[Campanella]

I have not only a discord, but also an imbalance of respect for power ...)))
The first thing to do is, as Valentin Rasputin said, "from the population to become the people again!"
And then it will be seen.

[DVR]

The first thing to do is, as Valentin Rasputin said, "from the population to become the people again!"

This is a good offer, in my opinion, but what is it in modern conditions?
But what to do? You did not answer the question:

Your suggestions? What are we doing, comrade?

[Region68]

Where do you come from is interesting to me ..

[Igor K]

From that Tereshkova that flew into space and we knew there was nothing left.

[aglet]

"Exhausted and asked for another 20 years?"
no, success is evident! about success, see above

[Malyuta]

Quote: Deck

Changes since 2000 in Russia

Of schools
It was: 68
It became: 40 800

This is a breakthrough in the 19th century!

[Servisinzhener]

When these figures in the form of pictures are published in groups with an audience of 16-20 years, it is still clear why they are taken seriously. But on this resource it looks strange.
Let me remind you of such names as Prokhorov, Potanin, Khodorkovsky, Deripaska, Abramovich, Berezovsky

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Servisinzhener

Let me remind you of such names as Prokhorov, Potanin, Khodorkovsky, Deripaska, Abramovich, Berezovsky

This is what?

[Servisinzhener]

Moreover, according to forum users Deck (Pertti) in 2000, there were no billionaires.
In general, in different variations of this picture in the line, their number has become different. Sometimes instead of billionaires they write oligarchs.

[Mordvin 3]

Oh, got it. I did not get it initially about the picture.

[Deck]

Yes exaggeration
Boris Berezovsky - $ 3 billion; Mikhail Khodorkovsky - $ 2,4 billion; Vagit Alekperov - $ 1,4 billion (20,7 now); Rem Vyakhirev - $ 1,4 billion; -Three retired.

But we have something to be proud of - the first hundred for 2019
from Leonid Michelson 24
to Vadim Yakunin 1,0

A HUNDRED!

[neri73-r]

The persons you have indicated are children on a global scale. Forbes also came up with this to veil the real rich. Why doesn't Forbes publish the aggregate income of some families ?! That's where you have to rummage.

[krillon]

Let's answer the question? Are we against the rich? Me not. Those who have achieved financial prosperity due to their abilities, talent, my respect. I am against poverty and misery. And categorically against when they try to be fooled by stating that citizens earning 17.000 belong to the middle class. But it is, emotions. We have no civil society and probably will not. The realization that it is necessary to change the vector of development of the country did not come. What is expressed the greatness of the country, where were they going and what are the prospects, can anyone give an answer? Personally, I see state capitalism in which an official becomes a deity, working not for the interests of the state but for his own. By the way, the Duma rejected the initiative to have foreign property for the deputies. They are here on a shift so to speak, they will make a fortune and live in quiet places.

[Vadim237]

Without citizenship and accounts abroad, it is very difficult to buy property there and most importantly it will be very difficult to maintain it all the more so in the West they started getting money from where to buy this property and you don’t provide documents in your accounts; all your property will be seized along with accounts like a Nazarbayev family’s villa arrested.

[krillon]

But it's impossible for me, there is no such money. But the officials and the deputies have them. Brzezinski wrote in his book "The Grand Chessboard", "since 500 billion dollars of the Russian elite lie in our banks, you will have to figure it out; is it your elite or already ours."

[Campanella]

Trite, not relevant and smacks of liberal bourgeois agitation.
I am against the rich, no matter how they achieved it, but I am against poverty and poverty and lack of rights.
God created us about the same, that's how we should live. And all of these, your honestly acquired, are twisted. I fully admit that people who gave their health in the name of the common good or because of insurmountable circumstances have the right to support the state. And everything else is from the evil one.

[MBRSS]

Those who have achieved financial prosperity due to their abilities, talent, my respect.

But I have no respect for the Forbes rogues, even if capable and talented, no. Because:
"There is a crime behind every great fortune" (c) Balzac.

[aglet]

"HUNDRED!" And,
but in the overall standings, they were rather weak; for 2020, Russia was only in 4th place in the number of billionaires. there is still much to strive for, there is an unplowed field for work. so get ready - tighten your belts, revise your diets, zero out dreams and desires. yes, and buckwheat stock up until prices have risen, how could you do without it

[aglet]

"Let me remind you of such names as Prokhorov, Potanin, Khodorkovsky, Deripaska, Abramovich, Berezovsky"
it is because of them- "Schools
It was: 68
It became: 40 "- well, they are radishes, tell the tsar, otherwise he does not know, he still cleans the constitution with a brick, and here, there it is, mikhalych ...

[Odessa Greek]

FU, frank troll, my friend, are you, by any chance, from the armies of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?)))) Something is burning you badly)). I myself voted for the changes and there are a lot of my friends too. I do not need Ze parsley in Russia, so bite your ass and write your "truth" about the collapse in Russia)))

[evgenii67]

Quote: Odessa Greek

FU, frank troll, my friend, are you, by any chance, from the armies of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?)))) Something is burning you badly)). I myself voted for the changes and there are a lot of my friends too. I do not need Ze parsley in Russia, so bite your ass and write your "truth" about the collapse in Russia)))

But I voted against and all my acquaintances and friends voted against, or did not go at all, moreover, even my dad voted against, although he always voted for GDP. This vote is a performance, a circus, anything, but obviously not fair elections. The main task is to ensure a high turnout, state employees here, please, and many private enterprises too, for example, I work for a private trader, so the elections were organized at the enterprise, turnout is mandatory 100%, and where you put a tick there is no longer important. By the way, I asked my colleagues in the workshop not only from my shift, almost everything was against it. Here are such things.

[BAI]

А I voted ........... This vote is a performance, a circus,

Well, they took part in this performance as a clown. Why shout now?

[Thunderbringer]

Clowns are just those who shouted here that is all. Now the kaaak people will take to the streets, kaaak will overthrow the regime.
All this, of course, was a lie.
And the people were not the same.
Now the Internet fighters burns. They expectedly lost.
The party Apple was especially enchanting.
Their leaders for 2 months from all the irons squealed that there was no need to vote, it was all a hoax.
And on the last day they took and changed their shoes, went and voted. Of course against (according to them).
It can be seen that the strategy did not work.

[Vadim237]

You clowns even drove to vote in the VO, you can not moan and moan, leave all your garbage in your cesspool head where all sorts of icteric media constantly dump it, and you open it with great joy.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Vadim237

You clowns even drove to vote in the VO

Who drove whom, Vadim?

[Vadim237]

Your vote Against.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Vadim237

Your vote Against.

I did not go. I don’t see the point, which I wrote here repeatedly.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: evgenii67

And I voted against and all my acquaintances and friends voted against,

That is: against indexing pensions, outsourcing Russian lands, against having bureaucrats have accounts abroad, having double citizenship (insurance abroad for your ass), protecting family values ​​and banning homosexuals -?
But he expressed his "Fi" against Putin.
For 100 years, we have been in power:
Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko, Andropov, Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Medvedev and Putin.
Well, and compared with the previous ones? After all, the next one could be the same as Yeltsin, in which there were more beggars and homeless people than after the Second World War, and a country around the world asked for a deny.
And what would you have achieved with your "NO" if the amendments to the constitution had not passed?
The question is, to whom have they been cheating?

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Bad_gr

against indexation of pensions

Are you either naive or stubborn. Is it possible to index it by 1 and 5%. And on the distribution of Russian lands? Is it like the old constitution allowed to give the Chinese Damansky and the Norwegians a piece in the North?

[Yarik]

we were all against it too. What surprised, obviously, elderly people stood at the exit from the site, mostly women, and discussed this farce. It was audible that from their words, everyone voted against because of scammers with pensions

[Campanella]

And I always voted against Putin, but I voted for the amendments.
It would be better to have amendments to this Yeltsinoid Constitution than the Sabbath of opposition leaders calling in a democratic capitalist paradise!
I agree with Zyuganov on the good need a new constitution, and not this Yeltsin burp. Well, what to do even so.

[your1970]

Quote: Deck

Emergency housing
It was: 9.5 million square meters. m
It became: 25.5 million square meters. m

Officials
It was: 1
It became: 2 156 300

But this is a lie ...
Both for emergency housing and officials

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Deck

Billionaires
It was: 0
It became: 99

According to the latest data - 102, according to the updated - 104 ...

Over the past 2 months, the total fortune of Russian oligarchs has increased:

Over the past two months, the number of dollar billionaires in Russia has increased from 102 to 104 people, and their combined wealth has grown from $ 392 billion to $ 454 billion ... During the pandemic, the combined fortune of Russian dollar billionaires has increased by $ 62 billion - from $ 392 billion to $ 454 billion , according to the Forbes Real Time counter, which estimates the change in state of the world's richest people in real time. We took March 18 as a reference point for comparison - this date was chosen for the final calculation of the conditions of businessmen included in the Forbes list of 2020

[Interlocutor]

Changes since 2000 in Russia

Which city are you from?

[kot28.ru]

In 2000, there were no billionaires in Russia? Well, insolently lying is too much

[AU Ivanov.]

And also:
Increased life expectancy
Alcohol consumption decreased
Child and maternal mortality decreased (by more than 3 times)
GDP increased at times - nominal GDP by 8,4 times (from $ 0,19 to $ 1,60 trillion), PPP GDP at current prices by 3,8 times (from $ 1 to 3,8 trillion)
12,5-fold reduction in inflation
A stabilization fund has been created.
Criminal Crime Reduction
Russia has achieved a leading position in the production of a number of agricultural products

[victor50]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

And also:
Increased life expectancy
Alcohol consumption decreased
Child and maternal mortality decreased (by more than 3 times)
GDP increased at times - nominal GDP by 8,4 times (from $ 0,19 to $ 1,60 trillion), PPP GDP at current prices by 3,8 times (from $ 1 to 3,8 trillion)
12,5-fold reduction in inflation
A stabilization fund has been created.
Criminal Crime Reduction
Russia has achieved a leading position in the production of a number of agricultural products

Are you comparing it since 1913 ?! Forgot to add: About 80% of voters voted for amendments in St. Petersburg with a turnout of 75%. Super achievement! The authorities, who did not want to change the constitution for 20 years, will unfold with new amendments! Whereas the usual turnout in St. Petersburg does not exceed 30% (while dramatically increasing in the last 2 hours ). And the vote "for" was always a little over 50%. The people are awake! Realized! Supported! Realized what was missing! Let's live! We will overtake the whole world! Liked about life expectancy! If tomorrow the retirement age will need to be raised to 70 years, it will be immediately higher with us than in Japan! In general, this is your power! Enjoy it! Do not think of others. And there’s another mystery according to his native Peter: there were 2 times fewer patients with the crown and several times more deaths? To the mystery of nature - as the hero of one film said. Maybe the same thing with the elections? I will not say that I interviewed many, but I do not know a single person who voted at 75% of the turnout. Maybe in my environment there are no people like you .... supporters of everyone and everyone !?

[babylon]

What do you compare with the Soviet legacy? if you compare it so you need to compare with 80 years but not 2000
By this comparison, you want to say that it was the liberal Yeltsin Russia built!?
Complete nonsense,
But why did you forget to add that people didn’t get salaries for 3-5 months, military conflicts on the territory of the country, And what about these millionaires, do these names say nothing to you? such as Khodorkovsky Gusinsky, Berezovsky and the like
And your comparison of delusional numbers is pure provocation.

[ximkim]

Yes, all honestly. Really voted for the amendments. Not only in the commentary was to the article ..

[Fungus]

I love when the opponents of Russia burns. It's good)

[Arlen]

Quote: Fungus

I love when the opponents of Russia burns.

The enemy of Russia and its people is immediately visible by its joy for the adopted anti-people laws

[Tusv]

Quote: Arlen

The enemy of Russia and its people is immediately visible by its joy for the adopted anti-people laws

And what anti-popular constitutional amendments were adopted? What are changes in the structure of power? Indexing Pensions? Child protection? Protection of family education? Protection of culture and heritage? The minimum wage is not less than the cost of living (although how it will be implemented if it is different in the regions). For example, I really like the changes in Article 67. You cannot alienate your territories, but you can demarcate and immediately form a federal subject of the Russian Federation. Well, let's say Donbas to the Russian Federation can already be accepted in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation

[New Year day]

Quote: Tusv

And what anti-popular constitutional amendments were adopted?

there was a guaranteed medical care!
Did you catch the difference?
3,5% of GDP is spent on healthcare in Russia (at least 5% is recommended). According to this indicator, Russia occupies 65th place (between Libya and Macedonia) * (551), in terms of health care - 125th place.
Now don't complain about bad doctors

[Tusv]

Quote: Silvestr

there was a guaranteed medical care!
Did you catch the difference?

And where did you see the abolition of compulsory medical care? The prison threatens for refusal. They added the compulsory medical insurance, which has been working for 10 years and insurance has been put even for the homeless, if there is a passport. Further, for this insurance, the employer pays 5.1% of your RFP + Social Insurance Fund 2.9% and for injuries - a floating rate, depending on the type of activity. So everything is past in your post

[New Year day]

Quote: Tusv

And where did you see the abolition of compulsory medical care?

Quote: Tusv

The prison threatens for refusal. They added the compulsory medical insurance, which has been working for 10 years and insurance has been put even for the homeless, if there is a passport.

and how does it work? I see this for a long time, from the inside

[Tusv]

and how does it work? I see this for a long time, from the inside

Go get the MHI policy. To do this, you need only two documents. PFR insurance number and passport.

[New Year day]

Quote: Tusv

Go get the MHI policy.

go get medical treatment on it! Read carefully

Quote: Silvestr

I see this for a long time, from the inside

[Tusv]

Quote: Silvestr

go get medical treatment on it!

I do not go to doctors for VHI. And so signed up for public services and forward

[New Year day]

Quote: Tusv

And so signed up for public services and forward

god help

[ivagulin]

Sylvester, it's so useless to explain something until they themselves "don't understand to crack their muzzle on the asphalt." And about the policies in my area, already sick patients are assisted by a veterinarian, VETERINARY

[New Year day]

Quote: ivagulin

it’s useless to explain something until they themselves “do not crack their muzzle on the asphalt”

Unlike these heroes, I heard from generals with their pants down, I will live. While the lady with the scythe does not knock, they tryn- grass. Then fear in their head begins to give out adequate products

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Tusv

And so signed up for public services and forward

god help

Actually. Now he is in the RF Health Ministry. True do not specify which of.

[Thunderbringer]

You will come to such a doctor, and he will say to you: "I will not treat, Putin paid me little money."
These fighters with the regime from the inside also need a kick for 101 kilometers.
Pick out from the inside.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: Thunderbringer

You will come to such a doctor, and he will say to you: "I will not treat, Putin paid me little money."
These fighters with the regime from the inside also need a kick for 101 kilometers.
Pick out from the inside.

Or maybe vice versa to Muscovy (within 101 km)!

[New Year day]

Quote: Thunderbringer

You will come to such a doctor, and he will say to you: "I will not treat, Putin paid me little money."

Does it pay a lot? How much they paid, so much it returned to you. Does the hairdresser cut you for no reason? Service industry however

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Thunderbringer

"I will not treat, Putin paid me little money."
These fighters with the regime from the inside also need a kick for 101 kilometers.
Pick out from the inside.

Why is my sister, a nurse, getting three times less than my nurse aunt in Moscow?

[Kuzyakin15]

Tusv.
Stop lying insolently: He signed up for public services and ...? If only paid. I went to the site ,, Work from the employer ,, - are required, are required, are required doctors of different specialties cf. medical staff, up to pence.
And in our school. there is no ophthalmologist, urologist, rheumatologist, a cardiologist alone and do not give coupons to him ....
Get to the therapist-coupons once a week, no earlier than 10 days later .. To pass the FGS, I spent a month and never passed. But in paid without any delay. And it is in an industrial city of 400000 population. In paradise centers and towns in general darkness. One doctor and surgeon and psychiatrist and neurologist.
Free and affordable medicine. You’re lying with your head on a blue eye. Yes, and Mr. Petrov for the company with you.

[Tusv]

Quote: Kuzyakin15

Stop lying insolently: He signed up for public services and ...?

Which of us breaches it is still necessary to find out. Another thing I live in Moscow. I do not know how in other regions. I finally have the MHI policy ended 5 years ago. For new laziness to go. Moreover, the employer pays for VHI and there is no need to go far

[New Year day]

Quote: Tusv

Another thing I live in Moscow.

so try medicine along the M-4 or even further. Moscow is not all Russia

[AU Ivanov.]

What is wrong with compulsory medical insurance? I underwent a rather expensive ankle operation on it, I did it with high quality, and I bow deeply to the surgeon.

[Kuzyakin15]

AC. Ivanov.
Did the quota? And how much did you wait?
Last year, my aunt recognized a cataract, an urgent operation in one eye, the other still suffered. 50 pieces and no problem. The operation on the second-got in line for a quota.
So do not treat us with treatment for compulsory medical insurance. In the hospital he still rolls in the majority, and in the outpatient clinic .... Kh. Z.

[AU Ivanov.]

The operation was done two weeks after the injury. Vreden Institute of Orthopedics.

[Ruslan67]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

two weeks after being injured. Vreden Institute of Orthopedics.

Analogy In the same place, 4th surgery. Only under the knee a joint from fragments was collected.

[Tusv]

Enough already Kuzyakin carry all nonsense. About grandparents. And finally it never, from any side to the amendments to the Constitution does not roll. By picking up performers of power by announcement, and then claim I have a question. How much money have you been paid for libel? Did you serve in the army ?. And so. My third son is already receiving higher education on a budget and I am not humming. And no good. And four years ago, a tooth was torn out without a compulsory medical insurance policy in the clinic did not pay a dime. I repeat, I'm too lazy to go after him. Damn talk all nonsense

[Tusv]

Kuzyakin, good to treat. Laser correction of 120 pieces and then a year were waiting for the first eye, the second in six months. No one will heal his eyes from the bay of floundering, even for a lot of money. Aunt, grandmother, mother cured by compulsory medical insurance

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Kuzyakin15

Last year, my aunt recognized a cataract, an urgent operation in one eye, the other still suffered.

My mother is similar, but after the operation she began to see even worse.

[New Year day]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

I had a rather expensive ankle operation on it.

Good zvizdet- expensive goes through the high-tech column, which means a quota or a red coupon from the Department of Health

[AU Ivanov.]

Quota. But he did not wait long.

[New Year day]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

Quota

So indicate.

[Interlocutor]

and how does it work? I see this for a long time, from the inside

Works

[Serg65]

Quote: Silvestr

Russia ranks 65th in this indicator

And the United States, with its 19% of GDP, takes 1st place ... and how is it with mortality from coronovirus?

[New Year day]

Quote: Serg65

And the United States, with its 19% of GDP, takes 1st place ... and how is it with mortality from coronovirus?

so be logical to the end! How many doctors died there and with us? I know how mortality statistics are compiled — friends of the pathologists rewrote diagnoses weekly.

[Serg65]

Quote: Silvestr

How many doctors died there and with us?

And how much ... am I asking you as a doctor?

Quote: Silvestr

How are mortality statistics formed with us, I know

I believe that you know, but do not tell the truth anyway

[Tusv]

Quote: Serg65

and what about mortality from the coronovirus?

Trump promised 200 thousand, now only 128

[New Year day]

Quote: Tusv

Trump promised 200 thousand, now only 128

read again

Quote: Silvestr

How many doctors died there and with us?

or do you care how many doctors died with us? the main thing is that you are alive and well?
Today, 526 people
https://sites.google.com/view/covid-memory/home

Share of physicians in the total number of deaths from Covid-19 by country
Data for May 19 of this year

[Serg65]

Quote: Silvestr

Today, 526 people

To date, 19 thousand people have become ill with COVID-165 in Russia, of which 1 people have died - about 537%. Moreover, in the project “List of memory”, which is being led by an initiative group of Russian doctors, there are more than 1 names of doctors who died from coronavirus — 100% of all deaths.
"Memory list" too does not pretend to be objective, since its developers add to the list of dead people on the basis of official data or statements of their colleagues or relatives. Doctors do not plan to check the information they received.
At the same time, doctors in Russia are tested very often, because they can be one of the main carriers of the disease to other people.
The exact number of infected and dead doctors in the world has not yet been disclosed. In the United Kingdom, about 100 medical personnel also died in an epidemic similar to Russia. In Italy, the first 100 dead doctors were when 18 thousand people died in the country.

Fekomet you Selvester, not a doctor!

[Iline]

To date, according to official information in the Saratov region, 860 doctors are infected with this infection. They are modestly silent on the dead, only sometimes information breaks through them. This week came across the information that the head died. department of one of the hospitals. And such information periodically appears in print. And officially in this area of ​​the dead for this reason 44 people. But deaths as they say from concomitant diseases, but in the presence of a coronovirus about 200. So think here where is the truth.

[New Year day]

Quote: Serg65

Fekomet you Selvester, not a doctor!

But Sobyanin of a different opinion

And if you delve into the topic, then read Rospotrebnadzor. Then in your head there will be a clarification.
And so, you are an amateur of the lowest quality on this topic

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Serg65

Fekomet you Selvester, not a doctor!

Do not spit in the well ...

[Vadim237]

Today in the United States, 48000 people broke the record for XNUMX-hour coronavirus infection - demonstrations work.

[Kuzyakin15]

Vadim237.
What are you popping USA, China .....
Ah, in China, not everyone pays pensions. Ah, in the USA, an ambulance ...
Yes, we do not care about them by and large. We live in Russia and want to live humanly.
Just don’t have to say that we should work and improve our lives.
We are working. And for 6 days a week and already basically and for 10-12 hours, contrary to the Labor Code. But something does not come out of the experience.

[Vadim237]

Excuse me. But who are we - are you? Whoever studied what works and turn on your mind, now every creator of his own happiness - a market economy with all its negative consequences, the state will not do anything for you, it just built a road but you run along it and overcome obstacles on it.

[Region68]

In the USA, an ambulance and for some reason they live 10 years longer

[Iline]

At first glance, an inexperienced man in verbiage, everything is written very beautifully. BUT....
On the indexation of pensions. Military pensioners faced this long before modern times. The law was written just as beautifully, only the end of the sentence was not good, just like in the current constitution. This indexation is left to the government. And it does not say how much this pension should be indexed. They will give an increase of 1 ruble and you won’t prove anything to anyone, even to the constitutional court. They say that the increase has occurred and this is consistent with the basic law.
According to the minimum wage. The allowance for outright parasites and the unemployed in developed countries, let's call them that at the level of our official wages, let alone the minimum wage. Not ashamed? And what prevents the government from changing the cost of living to change 3 kg. 2 for macaroni and instead of 3 potatoes to consider sufficient 2? Of course, I exaggerate, but these are just the pitfalls. The rulers, instead of fighting the hucksters from production with gray salaries, adopted a law on raising the retirement age. Do we live longer? They just calculated that with this very minimum wage, when working up to 60 years, a person will not earn a pension. Interested in how many people, at least in your region, did not receive a pension when they reached the age of 60? And these are people who have worked in production all their lives. It is a shame to look at this official cost of living.
Well, further in the text. For the same medicine - there is compulsory medical insurance, and it is almost impossible to get to the doctor within a month. The disease does not turn off during the waiting period. And often they are not sent to the necessary specialist, but to the therapist, who offers nothing but a referral to analyzes and offers to "listen" to me. When asked why all this is needed, if, roughly speaking, my heels are itching, he answers that it is necessary. The casket just opens - money. Everyone wants to pinch off this policy imitating violent activity.
I'm tired, you can write a lot more

[victor50]

Quote: Tusv

Changes in the structure of power?

And the State Council? Do you know anything about him?

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Fungus

I love when the opponents of Russia burns. It's good)

Russia, do you feel the itch? Putinists crawl over you

[TuM0305]

We look forward to raising the retirement age! Housing and communal services has already grown since July 1! What will he do, silently sit? What are the suggestions?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: TuM0305

What will he do, silently sit? What are the suggestions?

There is no fir tree, all together we will put pots on our heads, as in a neighboring country, and with the dream of lace panties, we will go to burn the tires, so that "prosperity" will come to the amusement of the mattresses.

[ZAV69]

Quote: TuM0305

We look forward to raising the retirement age! Housing and communal services has already grown since July 1! What will he do, silently sit? What are the suggestions?

Housing and communal services is growing every year since July 1. Why were they silent that year?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: TuM0305

We look forward to raising the retirement age! Housing and communal services has already grown since July 1! What will he do, silently sit? What are the suggestions?

Hell knows:

The authorities of Kuzbass postponed the increase in housing and communal services fees from July to September. Timing was delayed due to coronavirus. In the electronic bulletin of the Government of Kuzbass published a new resolution “On the approval of limit indices for changing the size of utility bills paid by citizens for 2020”. Thus, utility bills will not change until August 31.
According to the document, the highest growth is expected in Novokuznetsk and Kemerovo. The marginal indices of changes in payments for housing services are 15%. The lowest is in the Belogorsky urban settlement of the Tisulsky district, where the marginal change will be 3,2%

I'll wait for the military pension indexation:

On October 1, 2020, pensions will be indexed to military pensioners this year. It will be 3%. Pension indexation in 2021 is also budgeted at 4%.

The state will not leave us ... until the last shirt takes off ...

[tacet]

It has grown wildly, now it’s necessary to work more for 30 minutes a month to compensate for this growth.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Thrifty

Nazariy - "won" or rather, they screwed us up when they made a sandwich two in one - amendments to the constitution,

Fucked earlier on December 8 1] 991, and now the process of "taking" is only being polished. Only one of the entire corps of deputies Baburin opposed.

[Serg65]

Quote: tihonmarine

One of the entire corps of deputies Baburin opposed.

Baburin always speaks out against his wife!

[Svarog]

Quote: Thrifty

So, the results were what they are needed not by the people of the country, but by the Kremlin!

I did not go anywhere. I don’t have more than one acquaintance who would go to vote, but, according to the media, turnout is at 80% everywhere, and some regions are generally at 90%?

[paul3390]

Like that..

[New Year day]

Quote: paul3390

Like that..

watch from the 13th second

[Bad_gr]

Quote: paul3390

Like that..

And if in this ballot box the questionnaires were put by those who went around the apartments, going around the disabled and old people, from exit plots, profiles of those who voted earlier? How then will the profiles lie, one at a time or in piles?

[Iline]

And if those who went around the apartments put up profiles in this ballot box,

These ballots are packaged in separate packages, packages are sealed, locked in a safe, again sealed, and stored in this form until the vote counts.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Bad_gr

And if in this ballot box the questionnaires were put by those who went around the apartments, going around the disabled and old people, from exit plots, profiles of those who voted earlier?

But what for is it necessary?

[Thunderbringer]

Oops ... the shadow under the right pack was incorrectly drawn. Carefully make fakes.

[Iline]

Here you cannot cite references to primary sources, I already have one warning from the administrators, but the Saratov Election Commission officially recognized this fact, the ballots were invalidated. This happened in Saratov at a polling station at the Aurora school.

[codetalker]

It's fake. The stacks are identical and do not reflect in the side walls. You were deceived, and you believed ...

[Vend]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Thrifty

So, the results were what they are needed not by the people of the country, but by the Kremlin!

I did not go anywhere. I don’t have more than one acquaintance who would go to vote, but, according to the media, turnout is at 80% everywhere, and some regions are generally at 90%?

You and all your acquaintances, friends of acquaintances, relatives of acquaintances, etc. and did not consider you among 35 percent

[Vend]

Quote: Thrifty

Nazariy - "won" or rather, they screwed us up when they made a two-in-one sandwich - amendments to the constitution, and the question of self-zeroing of the terms of the reign to the supreme self-zero! If it were only about amendments to the constitution, the turnout would be, like the results, completely different! People are simply tired of eternal promises, of the lies of the authorities, of the impossibility of influencing the future of our country. So, the results were such that they are needed not by the people of the country, but by the Kremlin!

So that you are not raped, you must be among those who voted FOR. You are from 22%, so get used to it

[volodimer]

Well, yes, sarcasm ... The result is really such that they fucked everyone. On the Internet, people have posted photos with protocols from sites where the results are close to 50 to 50, in favor of "For". This looks like the truth. But according to the Central Executive Committee "For" by a huge margin, and only the rebellious Nenets Autonomous Okrug is against. In 60 to 40, I would have believed, but no, it was necessary to create the appearance of universal approval. For otherwise, the sanctions against the governors and other leaders ... 2036 ... I graduated from the Institute in 1994, graduate school in 1999, in 2036 I will retire ... Almost all my conscious life with him ... Stability, however.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Thrifty

raped us when we made a two-in-one sandwich — amendments to the constitution, and the question of self-annulment of the reign of the supreme self-nullified!

Usbagoyte, "swindled", zeroing the deadline does not guarantee election, or even nomination. However, if all the "offended by the authorities" would not have hammered in the vote, perhaps the result could have been different. Although no, 2% do not decide anything.

[bk316]

raped us when we made a two-in-one sandwich - amendments to the constitution, and the question of self-zeroing the terms

Well this is a matter of feeling You - yes have raped just feel. Joke.

I wrote here more than a year ago: GDP will leave when it wants and on its own terms (well, or when God takes it away). And for this there are a huge number of different ways. The constitution is not the most elegant - but the most intelligible. GDP such as you sent MAXIMUM intelligible message: it is not up to you to decide when to leave. You have not been raped, they have only shown your weakness.

Well, since the rest of the sandwich even suits you, take it as given and rejoice. After all, Putin is not eternal .... Now, if he will steer until 80, this is a disaster. And if he leaves the winner when he feels that he cannot steer - well done. Personally, I think that in reality there will be something third.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: bk316

GDP such as you sent the MAXIMUM intelligible message: it is not up to you to decide when to leave

He’s just hammering a nail with his own hands. The patience of the people is not unlimited. That's how tricky I deceived everyone. He will end up like Brezhnev

[codetalker]

If we were only talking about amendments to the constitution, the turnout would be like the results completely different!

Do you want to say that without the amendment to “zero” people would not go to vote?

[volodimer]

If there were no zeroing, then the vote would not have been started, because there is nothing serious that could not be accepted by laws. Even the supremacy of our laws over import does not require inclusion in the constitution. You just need to send everyone the forest and that's it. The USSR somehow managed without these formulations, simply took and acted as it considered necessary.
But having lost their head ...

Do you want to say that without the amendment to “zero” people would not go to vote?

I think that in this situation the honest result of those who were "For" would be similar to the one announced by the CEC.

[mechanic33]

dear Berezhlivy, those who wanted to overly politicize the process of adopting the amendments, in fact, turned out to be untenable and unconvincing, perhaps if there were a different time and other people, then ... and it turned out the following, one comes out and says "NO" and leads as an argument, general phrases like, "people are tired of eternal promises and lies of the authorities, the impossibility of influencing the future of our country ..." another says vote "YES" and cites exactly the same phrase as an argument.

[Private89]

People always lose in bourgeois elections

[Finches]

I myself voted on Saturday, but yesterday I walked to our polling station and whoever wants to believe, who does not want to - will not believe it, but it was quite crowded! People walked in families and singly, a policeman was on duty in the courtyard ... So, even such a private observation is enough to assess the turnout. Budgetnikov, I agree, the authorities asked to be, but did not specify exactly what to do! And I don't see anything wrong with that - in the end, capitalism and the state must count the money - since it pays the state employees, then it may demand to come to the site on the day that it pays! I voted - "For", wife, the same ... My daughter did not go! So I don't see any particular distortions, even within the same cell of society!

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: Finches

I voted - "For", wife, the same ... My daughter did not go!

Yes, on this show, an intelligent person could be distinguished exactly like this: he stayed at home.

[Finches]

You, apparently, are the smartest person!

[rocket757]

It’s nice to consider yourself smarter than most, but it almost always ends the same.

[BAI]

The surest way to stay foolish is to consider yourself smarter than others.

[rocket757]

Quote: BAI

The surest way to stay foolish is to consider yourself smarter than others.

Ha, ha, this is probably the most harmless.

[WIKI]

Quote: BAI

The surest way to stay foolish is to consider yourself smarter than others.

Do you have something against GDP?

[volodimer]

How did you relate the statement BAI with respect to GDP? A smart person is always ready to listen to someone else's opinion, and try to understand what it is based on if it does not coincide with his own. Therefore, how can it carry something reasonable in itself, if it is not so, try to explain it if the opponent is worthy of a dispute and is also able to understand the arguments. And if I am guided by the principle, I am one smart and I know how to do it right, and the rest ...
That's how you stay in the cold.

[WIKI]

Do you think that GDP considers itself smarter than others, dumber than others, or equal to itself?

[volodimer]

Yes, and here just do GDP ??? Victor, it’s not about him at all! It's about how everyone himself positions himself! And you are all GDP and GDP.

[WIKI]

I commented on the statement

The surest way to stay foolish is to consider yourself smarter than others.

Therefore, I asked the question whether his statement applies not only to Banshee (Novel), or it can be applied to GDP. I believe that VVP considers itself smarter than others, because the system it has built is based only on its authority. This means that he will be awaited in the future "to remain a fool - to consider himself smarter than others."

[WIKI]

Quote: rocket757

It’s nice to consider yourself smarter than most, but it almost always ends the same.

Do you have something against GDP?

[rocket757]

We have something against ... for various reasons, reasons. Although there is only one reason, we want to live in OUR COUNTRY, one that we would not be ashamed to leave to our descendants!
So you sho have something against?

[WIKI]

Quote: rocket757

we want to live in OUR COUNTRY, one that would not be ashamed to leave to our descendants!

The whole trouble of the existing system is that those with big money think primarily not about the country, but about how to anchor their children abroad, and leave them more there. And they spit on us from a high bell tower. Our Wishlist are of little interest to them.

[rocket757]

Quote: WIKI

The whole trouble of the existing system

Such systems in almost all countries, with their own twists, options. Capitalism is called, the power of the rich.
What else do you have to add? What do you have to offer?

[WIKI]

Quote: rocket757

What else do you have to add? What do you have to offer?

Do you want songs, ...? "10% of Russians control 83% of the national wealth, and 1% of the super-rich control almost 60% of all material and financial assets. This is not the case in any major economy in the world: Russia is the absolute champion. In the USA, where most of all dollar billionaires, 1% of the super-rich own only 35% of national wealth, in China and Germany this figure is 30%, in France and Italy - in the region of 20%. Even in Brazil, which until recently was considered the world leader in inequality, The 1% of the super-rich are just over 50% of tangible and financial assets. " Painfully huge "twist".

[rocket757]

You "sing" songs about what is known to EVERYONE who was interested in this, and to the rest, the majority, because it is NOT HIDDEN!
What can you offer of what we have not talked about and have not proposed.
Ideas, suggestions, specific ACTIONS ???

[Thunderbringer]

No, of course, live.
We also live in real Russia, we are changing the constitution.
And what is happening in your online country you tell us.
As I understand it, everything is bad with you.
Sympathize.

[I think logically ... occasionally]

In fact, a Banshee person is really quite intelligent. He published many competent articles on VO. Roman Skomorokhov his name is. Have you heard?

[Herman 4223]

Well then, of course, a giant of thoughts, everyone knows

[bar]

How not to know the leader of the local all-mutter. All his depressive articles are guessed with the first letter

[Pytnik]

His articles are like the "many-sided" Meehan comments , but Meehan is his own in the board, and "this"

[snake]

Quote: Pytnik

but Meehan is on the board, and "this"

Brothers in Reason ...

[Thunderbringer]

They are precisely distinguished by their many faces.
How else? There is one country outside the window, they are talking about a completely different country, recalling the third one, which generally existed only in the newspaper Pravda.

[snake]

Either I put it that way, or they misunderstood me. The brothers in mind are Mikhan with Pytnik. Well, you, Andrey, are also a good candidate for this company.

[Stas157]

Quote: bar

How not to know the leader of the local all-crawler.

Whom? Why are you sticking labels on people? Your scandalousness looks worse than a negative outlook on some things. Despite the fact that there are more than enough reasons for negativity, and positive has not been observed for a long time. To believe that Putin led the people to a chic life for his long reign is to greatly overestimate the situation.

Quote: bar

All his depressive articles are guessed with the first letter

You again misjudge. There is not depression, but indignation. Rejection of lawlessness in society. All articles on the topic of the day and very relevant. A healthy response to unhealthy things. And as a result, all Banshee articles are the most rated and discussed on the VO website. If you do not like it, do not force yourself - pass by.

[bar]

Whom? Why are you sticking labels on people?

This is not a label, but my current opinion, to which I have every right.

Your scandalousness looks worse than a negative outlook on some things.

Well, what can I do, here I am.

Despite the fact that there are more than enough reasons for negativity, and positive has not been observed for a long time. To believe that Putin led the people to a smart life for his long reign is to greatly overestimate the situation.

It is impossible to get a pessimist in a half empty glass to see half full. This is a depressive warehouse of his character, as well as my scandalous. And to force an objective look at things is also impossible. Although during the reign of the terrible dictator, life really changed a lot for the better. But the pessimist will still find black spots and fixate on them.

You are evaluating incorrectly. There is not depression, but indignation. Rejection of lawlessness in society. All articles on the topic of the day and very relevant. A healthy response to unhealthy things.

As the glossing showed even on this site, I am far from alone in my assessments. And it pleases. And your causeless and unconstructive malice seems healthy only to you.
“Rejecting offer, offering act,” not whine while sitting on the couch.

And as a result, all Banshee articles are the most rated and discussed on the VO website.

Naturally, Roman gathered on the site a close-knit group of like-minded all-wearers, and they cry together in his vest, turning a good cognitive resource into a snotty mess.

If you do not like it, do not force yourself - pass by.

I can advise the same to you. It is a pity that it is impossible to install a filter on odious authors. It’s good that Skomorokhov’s articles can be accurately guessed even by the title and you can skip them right away, you don’t even have to rewind them to find out the authorship.

[Incvizitor]

I also never read these nagging articles; it makes no sense to read them and there is no sense in them

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Incvizitor

I also never read these nagging articles; it makes no sense to read them and there is no sense in them

And then what do you write under the articles if you do not read them?

[Terenin]

Quote: bar

Whom? Why are you sticking labels on people?

This is not a label, but my current opinion, to which I have every right.

Your scandalousness looks worse than a negative outlook on some things.

Well, what can I do, here I am.

Despite the fact that there are more than enough reasons for negativity, and positive has not been observed for a long time. To believe that Putin led the people to a smart life for his long reign is to greatly overestimate the situation.

It is impossible to get a pessimist in a half empty glass to see half full. This is a depressive warehouse of his character, as well as my scandalous. And to force an objective look at things is also impossible. Although during the reign of the terrible dictator, life really changed a lot for the better. But the pessimist will still find black spots and fixate on them.

You are evaluating incorrectly. There is not depression, but indignation. Rejection of lawlessness in society. All articles on the topic of the day and very relevant. A healthy response to unhealthy things.

As the glossing showed even on this site, I am far from alone in my assessments. And it pleases. And your causeless and unconstructive malice seems healthy only to you.
“Rejecting offer, offering act,” not whine while sitting on the couch.

And as a result, all Banshee articles are the most rated and discussed on the VO website.

Naturally, Roman gathered on the site a close-knit group of like-minded all-wearers, and they cry together in his vest, turning a good cognitive resource into a snotty mess.

If you do not like it, do not force yourself - pass by.

I can advise the same to you. It is a pity that it is impossible to install a filter on odious authors. It’s good that Skomorokhov’s articles can be accurately guessed even by the title and you can skip them right away, you don’t even have to rewind them to find out the authorship.

Well, the Bar and patience you have for a detailed (detailed, detailed, accurate ...) answer. I envy

[bar]

So what to do? I see only three options - either pass by, or start a dog dump, or try to argue with arguments with arguments
With all my might I try to stick to the third option and not slide into the second. Unfortunately, it does not always work out ...

[Interlocutor]

How not to know the leader of the local all-mutter. All his depressing articles are guessed with the first letter laughing.

Feel ..... less has become a minus. They left this page. They’re not interested in them anymore.

[bar]

Yes, a small victory of common sense over pessimism.
So not everything is lost for this site.

[I think logically ... occasionally]

The most gracious and, in addition, the dearest Herman 4223, do not distort so. It was not about the giant of thought, but about a stupid man named Roman Skomorokhov. Are you making the difference? Well, that's good.

[Herman 4223]

Nobody has ever called me the sweetest on the site. Wife show let jealous.

[BAI]

Okay, let it be "nasty".

[Herman 4223]

What am I to you "disgusting" respected from the "site manager" BAI?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: I think logically ... sporadically

Have you heard?

Heard, seen. AND?

[ZAV69]

Has he got rid of hysteria in any way? Two days were gone.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: I think logically ... sporadically

In fact, a Banshee person is really quite intelligent. He published many competent articles on VO. Roman Skomorokhov his name is. Have you heard?

Normal article, writes correctly, I am always FOR.

[Thrifty]

I have friends of the whole family wrote in the newsletter - no self-reset, no change in the constitution, yes!

[Interlocutor]

I have friends of the whole family wrote in the newsletter - no self-reset, no change in the constitution, yes!

And what just did not cross out the ballot? Why so many manipulations?

[Rzzz]

Quote: Banshee

could be distinguished just like that: stayed at home.

Considering also that interesting moment, that besides the voting itself, it is also a census of politically active population. The authorities have access to real results, statistics will remain, and in those areas where electronic ballot boxes with scanners there is also named information who voted for what. Also, this information is on those who voted electronically.
That is, there is virtually no secret ballot, but for what this information is collected, where and how much it will be stored, for what purposes and by whom it will be used - it is not yet clear, but it is already alarming.

[The popuas]

There is no surname on the ballot, there is only YES or NO ... But the data of all Russians is without elections ...

[Rzzz]

If there is an electronic ballot box with a scanner, and a video camera that removes this ballot box (for security, of course !!), then on the scan of the bluetooth miraculously appears your portrait, passed through a face recognition system, and verified by a photo on a passport or other document.
If not, then it is less accurate, but all the same, it is possible to compile group statistics that out of all those who voted such and such a percentage is “for”, such and such a “against”. It's rude, but at least something. This statistics can be clarified by using several ballot boxes and counting the votes in them separately, recording people approaching the ballot boxes by video. And also by dividing the vote into several days (I just don't know, in our case the ballot boxes were standing all seven days, or were the results taken every evening?)
Well, in general there are reasons to think. Something seems to me that the native state, the less you know about it, the better. X3, where this data will then go to, and for what purposes will be used.

[BAI]

And it’s best to put a thought scanner.

[bk316]

Something seems to me that the native state, the less you know about it, the better.

And why the hell are you writing such comments then? Self-mortgage.
Illogical? Or because of the hillock advise?

[Rzzz]

Quote: bk316

Self mortgage

But nifiga. I am not calling for anything. Vote for something, do not vote for something. Everyone decides for himself, someone with brains, someone with an ass, depending on his abilities.
I just threw a thought that I think is worth considering. True, there are wildly stubborn personalities who for this only minuses are encircled. Well, I don’t really care about rating numbers and stars, although it’s funny.
And by the way, not from behind the hill, but almost from the center of the capital.

[bar]

There is no surname on the bulletin, there is only YES or NO ...

Fingerprints will be taken from ballots or identified by DNA. Gloved, it was necessary to vote. But now it's too late ....

[ZAV69]

Quote: bar

Gloved, it was necessary to vote. But now it's too late ....

It is immediately clear that the person did not go. Gloves immediately at the entrance to the weekend issued with masks and pens

[bar]

Really did not go. It was lucky that on the eve of our entrance the representatives of our election commission walked with an urn. I voted with pleasure without leaving my home :)

[Interlocutor]

The authorities have access to the real results, statistics will remain, and in those areas where the electronic ballot boxes with scanners there is also named information who voted for what. Also, this information is on those who voted electronically.

Not a fig you have an intrigue in your head ... Urgent detectives to write ....

[Rzzz]

Quote: Interlocutor

Do not you have a fig

Well, age makes me worry about the future, and good education, high intelligence, excellent acquaintance with modern technologies and the fact that I have read quite a few dystopias. And I see quite well what the modern Russian government is like, and the modern near-political "ilita" that gives commands to this government.
Now only military and law enforcement pensioners can live in peace. The pension is high, the children are attached, and there is not much left to live.
The rest all discuss the topic in the spirit of "oh, I don't know what will happen."

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: rzzz

Now only military and law enforcement pensioners can live in peace. The pension is high,

Just yesterday I was lying with Afghan veterans, and one of them is a retired policeman. All their arguments boiled down to: "You don't understand anything."

[mdsr]

Quote: Banshee

Quote: Finches

I voted - "For", wife, the same ... My daughter did not go!

Yes, on this show, an intelligent person could be distinguished exactly like this: he stayed at home.

I agree, but even of those who took part in the vote, there was a considerable part of those who drew the male genital organ on ballots as a sign of indignation at the circus being held.
Personally, I did not go to the polls.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: mdsr

there was a considerable part of those that were drawn in the ballots

Yes, there are enough marginals.

[BAI]

0,4% of ballots were spoiled. It is not enough, for the approval of "a considerable part".

[Terenin]

Quote: mdsr

Personally, I did not go to the polls.

but if so, how do you know that

Quote: mdsr

even of those who took part in the vote, there was a considerable part of those who drew the male genital organ in the ballot papers in indignation

well ??
Look into the eyes!

[A good one]

Quote: Terenin

Quote: mdsr

Personally, I did not go to the polls.

but if so, how do you know that

Quote: mdsr

even of those who took part in the vote, there was a considerable part of those who drew the male genital organ in the ballot papers in indignation

well ??
Look into the eyes!

Come on, hollow from the driveway shop, his grannies took on 8 Mara to their OBS, and that’s where the little guy who is over 18 is practicing.

[bar]

even of those who took part in the voting, there was a considerable part of those who drew the male genital organ in the ballot papers as a sign of indignation at the circus held.
Personally, I did not go to the polls.

In vain, they could also satisfy their erotic fantasies

[Freeman]

Quote: Banshee

Quote: Finches

I voted - "For", wife, the same ... My daughter did not go!

Yes, on this show, an intelligent person could be distinguished exactly like this: he stayed at home.

Yeah. Vasisualiy Lokhankin - as a mirror of protest.
If those 35% of voters who stayed at home came and voted "against" - then the alignment would be different.
60/40 is not 80/20, it makes you think.
And so - a complete "carte blanche".

[halpat]

Quote: Freeman

Quote: Banshee

Quote: Finches

I voted - "For", wife, the same ... My daughter did not go!

Yes, on this show, an intelligent person could be distinguished exactly like this: he stayed at home.

Yeah. Vasisualiy Lokhankin - as a mirror of protest.
If those 35% of voters who stayed at home came and voted "against" - then the alignment would be different.
60/40 is not 80/20, it makes you think.
And so - a complete "carte blanche".

I read posts, I was surprised: Where is this unkillable and, in the opinion of the Oppa, generally sacred argument - "if ... yes if only"?
And found :))
Now I am calm. The brains of the non-system did not increase by a single gram.
I know a lot of people who voted “Yes”, I know those who voted “No”
The ratio is 8 to 2. So it coincides (surprisingly) with what I saw on the box.

Who does not agree, please feel free to Nenets Autonomous Okrug, everyone will find work. Good physical work in the fresh air.

[Alexander X]

If those 35% of voters that stayed at home and came and voted "against" - then the alignment would be different.
My wife didn’t go to vote because she was on a farmhouse in the forest, but she said that she was for amendments. So do not extend your conclusions to all who did not come. I-for, daughter-for .... So the whole family FOR amendments.

[Freeman]

Quote: Alexander X

My wife didn’t go to vote because she was on a farmhouse in the forest, but she said that she was for amendments. So do not extend your conclusions to all who did not come.

Note. In my commentary, I did not write down all those who did not come to the vote in the "against" column. Therefore, I indicated the proportion "Yes / No" as 60/40 - and not 45/55.

[Duck]

Why are you so categorical, in our district people went and voted - the majority "against". And if those who were sitting at home went to vote, then you look at the results and in other regions would have been different.

[Roman123567]

The fact of the matter is that the majority voted against it already .. Even those who were driven out (yesterday I was surprised to find that not only state employees, but also workers from the market were taken by pen by absentee ballots ... although they did not vote)

Believe in 74% FOR .. Well, damn it .. We live in the same world .. there are friends, acquaintances, relatives .. the same classmates with a watsap, where people (real people you know) as soon as they don’t spit in our nullified ..
Yes, of course, there are those who for some reason wanted these changes .. even if I myself didn’t understand what was happening .. and I met such people among my friends .. But this is more likely as an exception .. So these figures have nothing to do with reality !!
Yes, and if it were different .. unless we then would someone ask ??)

[Duck]

Frankly speaking, I doubt that the majority of those who voted voted "against", but that 77% voted "for" - the same is hard to believe.

[Woodman]

Quote: Roman123567

but also workers from the market for a pen by absentee

And before that they were taken by the hand to receive absentee ballots?

[New Year day]

Quote: Lesovik

And before that they were taken by the hand to receive absentee ballots?

Can you read? State employees were forced to break away

[Woodman]

Quote: Silvestr

Can you read? State employees were forced to break away

Quote: Roman123567

but also workers from the market were taken by absentee ball pen.

I can read, and you? Since when have market workers become state employees?

[New Year day]

the rules for all are one in this matter. Man is addicted!

[Woodman]

Quote: Silvestr

the rules for all are one in this matter. Man is addicted!

What are you doing now? By your logic, the whole country voted forcibly absentee ballots? Or is it not logic?

[New Year day]

Quote: Lesovik

By your logic, the whole country voted forcibly absentee ballots? Or is it not logic?

the logic is that state employees and employees were driven to polling stations. I gave you a personal example.

[Woodman]

Quote: Silvestr

the logic is that state employees and employees were driven to polling stations. I gave you a personal example.

And the question was about market employees. And they do not relate to the servants in any way.
And by the way, I know quite a few service people - no one demanded absenteeism from them. By appearance - there were wishes, but there was no control over this appearance. And about absenteeism was not.
But the question - I repeat - was about market workers, and you are talking about hospitals ...

[Roman123567]

And the question was about market employees. And they do not relate to the servants in any way.

Hallelujah ..)) Surprisingly, yes ??
That’s why I wrote

Even those who were driven (yesterday I was surprised to find out,what not only budgetnicknames but also workers from the market drove by the absentee handle .. although they voted against)

[Woodman]

Quote: Roman123567

Amazing yes ??

Quote: Roman123567

but also workers from the market for the handle on absentee drove ..

That is so halelujah. On the absentee note it is not enough to "reduce". Still it is necessary to "reduce" the absentee ballots. Suddenly, huh?

[New Year day]

Quote: Roman123567

Hallelujah ..)) Surprisingly, yes ??
That’s why I wrote
Even those who were driven away (I was surprised to find out yesterday that not only state employees, but also workers from the market were taken by pen by absentee ... although they voted against it)

perversion is their norm

Quote: Lesovik

But the question - I repeat - was about market workers, and you are talking about hospitals ...

[New Year day]

Quote: Lesovik

And the question was about market employees.

you know. how does a person get a place in the market? Ask people and how they cherish this place

[Woodman]

Quote: Silvestr

you know. how does a person get a place in the market?

I know very well. But you are unlikely.

[AU Ivanov.]

A person in the market receives a place exclusively for money, with cash. Something I doubt that the owner of the market will ensure the turnout.

[Roman123567]

I can read, and you? Since when have market workers become state employees?

Apparently know how ... but bad ..

Even those who were driven away (yesterday I was surprised to learn that it was not only state employees, but also market workers

[Terenin]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Lesovik

And before that they were taken by the hand to receive absentee ballots?

Can you read? State employees were forced to break away

Sylvester, how much you can scan the inscriptions from the fences. Or without fences is bad. There is nowhere to read smart thoughts ...?

[New Year day]

Quote: Terenin

Sylvester, how much you can scan the inscriptions from the fences.

it is my phone. Stop procrastinating and seem smarter

Quote: Terenin

There is nowhere to read smart thoughts ...?

do you have stress with this?

[A good one]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Terenin

Sylvester, how much you can scan the inscriptions from the fences.

it is my phone. Stop procrastinating and seem smarter

Quote: Terenin

There is nowhere to read smart thoughts ...?

do you have stress with this?

Sylvester, the courage of the city takes. I don’t see bruises and abrasions on you, but you wear Colonel General, previously he was more courteous. What? Armchair shakes one place, my joy.

[New Year day]

Quote: Not bad

Sylvester, the courage of the city takes. I don’t see bruises and abrasions on you, but you wear Colonel General, was earlier more courteous, what? armchair presses one place, my joy.

why this opus? With regards to the shoulder straps, they are already re-received in a difference of 2 years. Want to try

[Terenin]

Quote: Silvestr

it is my phone

then this is mine

Quote: Silvestr

Stop procrastinating and seem smarter

Well, here, another thing. Now it’s clear that in your own words

[Woodman]

Quote: Silvestr

it is my phone. Stop procrastinating and seem smarter

Sylvester, if not a secret, how did you vote in the conditions of "coercion", "total control" and your complete rejection of the amendments? Which won: adherence to principles or "control"? And what are the consequences of YOUR choice for you? Honestly - just interesting.
If anything - I voted "FOR".

[DVR]

Can you read? State employees were forced to break away

What is this bullshit?
How many such pictures do you need? I will provide any content, according to your desire.

[halpat]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Lesovik

And before that they were taken by the hand to receive absentee ballots?

Can you read? State employees were forced to break away

fakes post this is great!
I wrote to you, you tell me ... what you need to create the right direction, you can still exchange with friends.
then trim the top and bottom and post wherever we can. The proof is done! And it will not work to challenge :)
You can trump ... in various garbage dumps.

[Roman123567]

And before that they were taken by the hand to receive absentee ballots?

Yes, right .. Or did you doubt it before ??

[Woodman]

Quote: Roman123567

Yes, right ..

Funny ... Is this yesterday's correspondence? It’s just that by law, absenteeism could be obtained until June 21st,

Schedule for absentee statements:

through State services - from June 5 to 14:00 on June 21;
through the MFC "My Documents" - from June 5 to 14:00 on June 21;
through the territorial commission - from June 5 to 14:00 on June 21;
through the precinct commission - from June 16 to 14:00 on June 21.

but previously you did not give this argument ... Although, maybe I missed this moment.

[Roman123567]

Yes, yesterday ..
I have no idea when they took absentee ballots ..
Something somewhere does not converge ??

[Woodman]

Quote: Roman123567

Yes, right .. Or did you doubt it before ??

why did you delete the correspondence and correct the comment? really "puncture"?

[Roman123567]

Didn’t delete anything ..
What is the puncture ??


PS .. you can look for some punctures for a long time, but they won’t be anyway .. simply because the correspondence is real, the person is real, and his real thoughts are painted ..

zzy Although, of course, you can think of it .. that my friend just wrote it to me for the sake of lies .. that she really is for Putin .. but like this, she’s lying lies to everyone .. to create a background, etc ..

[Woodman]

Quote: Roman123567

simply because the correspondence is real, the person is real, and his real thoughts are painted ..

Did I doubt the reality of correspondence? I doubted the fact that the described situation was a reality, otherwise this fact should have surfaced two weeks ago. For after the absentee did not give out.

[Roman123567]

doubted the fact that the described situation was a reality

I repeat - I see no reason why a person will come up with this for me ..

otherwise this fact should have surfaced two weeks ago.

The fact of what ?? Two weeks ago I didn’t talk about this with this person .. and she is not obliged to tell me about every step of her life .. this is not a wife, but a friend ..

[Woodman]

Quote: Roman123567

The fact of what ?? Two weeks ago, I didn’t communicate with this person ..

Relax, you. You were "surprised" to learn about the market workers, I was "surprised" to learn that you "take their word for gentlemen"

[Roman123567]

Not to gentlemen, but to a girl ... all the more so when neither to me nor to her there is no reason to lie ..
I also found out with surprise that it’s surprising for you - when people you know communicate with each other and discuss something .. just .. without lies ..

zzy Although, of course, you can think of it .. that my friend just wrote it to me for the sake of lies .. that she really is for Putin .. but like this, she’s lying lies to everyone .. to create a background, etc ..

[Roman123567]

And really, deleted ..
What do you think - who ??)))
I'll post it again ..

[Woodman]

Quote: Roman123567

And really, deleted ..
What do you think - who ??)))

Now I believe that you are not)))

[New Year day]

Quote: Terenin

It looks like you, with Sylvester, are trading in the same market

and you are so blinkered. that apart from the primer do not read anything and do not know

[Terenin]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Terenin

It looks like you, with Sylvester, are trading in the same market

and you are so blinkered. that apart from the primer do not read anything and do not know

Something with a complaint dragged more than eight minutes? Not otherwise tired of voting ... in the market

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Banshee

Yes, on this show, an intelligent person could be distinguished exactly like this: he stayed at home.

Clever, of course! Everyone who did not come to the vote made a small contribution to the percentage of FOR. In what elections do you intend to take part, only in those where you are "on horseback"?
The result was predetermined not when counting (I THINK that there is no point in "pushing"), but when organizing voting. There was no one to lead the protest, I don't take provocateurs into account. Therefore, calls to vote FOR even the Central Election Commission became possible, even at polling stations (newspapers and leaflets FOR at the entrance will not be seen). What we are, what kind of civil society is voting. There will be no other.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: There was a mammoth

What are we, what kind of civil society is such a vote. There will be no other.

I, too, except for swearing, and practicing each other on the site, did not see anything concrete.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Banshee

Yes, on this show, an intelligent person could be distinguished exactly like this: he stayed at home.

Good day! Now the Sabbath of the nuclear electorate will begin, whose ass is warm and pension at our expense.
I remember 2018, when after the elections prices went up, and then a penny. reform and many of those were "for" trying to gnaw their own elbows. Unfortunately, the inhabitants have a short memory.
Threat. I did not go to the vote. I do not recognize the results!

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Banshee

Quote: Finches

I voted - "For", wife, the same ... My daughter did not go!

Yes on this show smart person could be distinguished exactly like this: stayed at home.

That is, in your opinion, a "smart person" is one who voluntarily renounced his fundamental civil right - the Right of Choice? Interesting logic, if I didn’t know what you are under (or even for) fifty dollars, I would have thought that the author of such a profound comment is a repetition of the boarding school for children with developmental delay. Why are you Roman, since you are such a big opponent of the amendments, did not cooperate with other "thrown and oppressed", fortunately, marinate you for the winter, and did not vote for these amendments? You yourself renounced your right, maybe you don't particularly need other rights?
PS: Your "smart people" in real life look something like this:

[bk316]

Yes, on this show, an intelligent person could be distinguished exactly like this: he stayed at home.

And I personally stayed at home. Voted FOR on the Internet.
I'm smart ?

[Pilot]

Quote: bk316

Yes, on this show, an intelligent person could be distinguished exactly like this: he stayed at home.

And I personally stayed at home. Voted FOR on the Internet.
I'm smart ?

Well, how can I tell you ... here my cat also happens to clatter on the keyboard, so ..

[AU Ivanov.]

Smart. But a bit lazy.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Roman, I can’t help but quote as they say one of the smartest and most witty of those who lived - Duke François de La Rochefoucauld: "There are no more stupid people than those who consider themselves smarter than everyone else." Good day to you and new creative successes!

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Banshee

Yes, on this show, an intelligent person could be distinguished exactly like this: he stayed at home.
You, apparently, are the smartest person!

You still do not forget that young people want to live well. They don’t need these words of yours. Who can dump abroad, the same applies to scientists. Then just don’t be surprised that ... about Russia

[blackice]

And most importantly - no violations!
Passport? What for!!!! Just sign and go behind the screen, 146% "FOR" are still counted, no matter how you vote.
Did someone vote for you?
Oh, this is a mistake !!! And for the wife too?
Fu you, well you !!! Which we are not attentive !!!.
And only you: everything is decorous and noble!
I congratulate you on your "victory" over common sense.

[Finches]

I don’t know how it is with you, but I checked my passport and compared it with registration and even allowed to take the disposable pen! Who wants - voted "For", who does not want - "Against", and the smartest stayed at home! So it turns out that all three categories, one way or another, won common sense according to your theory!

[DVR]

I don’t know how it is with you, but I checked my passport and compared it with registration and even allowed to take the disposable pen!

Likewise, the passport was checked, the mask and gloves were given, the pen given out was not asked to be returned. There were many people, everything was well organized. Voted FOR the amendments.

[Vladivostok1969]

Journalists asked the head of the Public Chamber to comment on the situation with PEC No. 2844 in Ussuriysk. After closing, during the vote count, two independent observers were removed from the polling station, one of whom is the wife of the deputy of the Duma of Ussuriysk, a member of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Sergey Soldatov. The footage from the scene shows how the police remove the observer, referring to the decision of the working group.

“The Public Chamber has the right to recall observers in case of violation of the rules of observation or the code of ethics,” said Stupnitsky. - On this site, the commission expressed dissatisfaction with the work of specific observers, not all: I note that the site was not left without observation. A working group was created and considered the issue of recalling observers. He was submitted to the council of the Public Chamber, and the council approved the decision. "

Two observers who were removed from the polling station are independent citizens (parties and public organizations can also send their observers). Stupnitsky said that they interfered in the work of the commission, in the resolution of collective issues and the consideration of complaints, as well as conducted campaigning work - observers have no right to do this. When asked whether these observers campaigned for or against the amendment, Stupnitsky did not answer.

As a result, at polling station No. 2844, according to the regional election commission, out of 1081 registered voters, 918 people came (84,92% turnout). The amendment was supported by 91,07% of voters. This is above the average for Ussuriysk - 86,13% supported the correction in the city, with a turnout of 80,92%. In general, 78,86% voted for the region with a turnout of 62,64%.

Статья полностью: https://www.newsvl.ru/vlad/2020/07/02/191254/#ixzz6R0qX97Hs
Vladivostok News on VL.RU
And there are no violations.

[DVR]

As a result, at polling station No. 2844, according to the regional election commission, out of 1081 registered voters, 918 people came (84,92% turnout). The amendment was supported by 91,07% of voters. This is above the average for Ussuriysk - 86,13% supported the correction in the city, with a turnout of 80,92%.

Can you confirm the accuracy of this data? Now there are thousands of fakes on the voting process.

And there are no violations.

We did not see any violations; everything was well organized.
If this information is reliable, then this is the work of the investigation and the prosecutor's office.

[Vladivostok1969]

This information is available in a free portal on the city of Vladivostok. Moreover, as in the VO, a blitz is conducted among readers to vote on amendments.

Vote
How did you vote on the constitutional amendment?
Supported by
10.6%
626
Voted against
57.5%
3385
Spoiled / took the bulletin with you
0.3%
17
Did not go to vote
31.6%
1861

Total voted 5889 people

Статья полностью: https://www.newsvl.ru/vlad/2020/07/02/191251/#ixzz6R0vnu8dX
Vladivostok News on VL.RU

[DVR]

This information is available in a free portal on the city of Vladivostok. Moreover, as in the VO, a blitz is conducted among readers to vote on amendments.

Are you sure of the reliability of this source? Is he respectable for you?
And here is a video on voting from the representative of Platoshkin, in which they call to vote against the amendments:

How do you like it?
On dozens of other resources, including large, it is written about the refutation of these fakes.

[Vladivostok1969]

I don’t understand what confuses you in this video? Ussuriysk is an interesting city. In the gubernatorial elections in 2018, the entire Ussuriysk flotilla even voted for the current governor. Ussuriysk is located about 100 km from the sea. Yes. In Ussuriysk there is the Rakovka river. But only flotillas were not observed on it. It is not navigable.

[DVR]

I don’t understand what confuses you in this video?

Didn’t you be embarrassed that this was a video from previous elections? Not this year. And give him away for voting on the Constitution with the appropriate campaigning? How easy it is to fool you.

[Vladivostok1969]

The date is not indicated in this video. And you can determine the voting time probably by the absence of masks in people. Although the GDP also voted without a mask. Just the question is again for you. The composition of PEC 2844 has not changed since the last election, despite the revealed violations. I ask? The task is completed! And to the performers there are NO questions!

[DVR]

The composition of PEC 2844 has not changed since the last election, despite the violations identified.

And what about the video at PEC 2844? In the same place, in large print "2840" it is written, which again I cannot confirm, this is for the authors.
I was not interested in the composition of PEC 2840, I am from Krasnodar, I can’t track all the PECs of the Russian Federation. You raised the topic of fraud in Ussuriysk, but you could not prove anything. I can bring you ten to one of your links about violations with a refutation.

[blackice]

It is useless to spread something to the supporters of the nullified. All fakes.

[Tank jacket]

Similarly, the passport was checked, the temperature was measured, even my hands were treated with an antiseptic, gloves, a mask, and a pen were given out. Voted FOR the amendments.

[ghby]

Quote: Finches

I don’t know about you, but they checked my passport and compared it with registration, and even allowed to take a disposable pen! Who wants - voted "For", who does not want - "Against", and the smartest stayed at home! So it turns out that all three categories, one way or another, won common sense according to your theory!

Absolutely the same picture was on my site. there you could get a mask, my hands were treated, the temperature was measured. I didn’t get used to my pen From a survey of acquaintances, those who voted, everyone voted FOR.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Finches

I don’t know how it is with you, but I checked my passport and compared it with registration and even allowed to take the disposable pen!

And measured the temperature with pressure? Have you put on a muzzle?

[Finches]

No pressure, temperature - yes! I had my own muzzle

[bar]

I don’t know how it is with you, but I checked my passport and compared it with registration and even allowed to take the disposable pen!

But Vadim simply did not go to vote, wisely sat on the couch. This is where the fantasies come from.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: bar

And Vadim just didn’t go to vote,

Which Vadim? 237th? Here is the loafer unconscious.

[blackice]

Seriously?
And you, nameless, know exactly about this?
Or supporters of the nullified can only smell from the side?
But they came to us, to the organization. What do you think about a lot of wise zeroing, a lot of people go to work with a passport? And everyone voted.

[Nehist]

I was also compared and it turned out that they didn’t correctly record errors in two digits, the circus began with a correction in a simple pencil and clarification of my personality. Voted against

[BAI]

The passport? What for!!!!

How is it not a passport? Passport checked. And it was always checked. Check for availability on lists. I didn’t use other ways than to personally go. Maybe electronic or some other way.

[Egoza]

Quote: Finches

in the end, capitalism and the state must count the money - since it pays to state employees, it may demand to come to the site on the day that it pays!

But is this not a bribery of voters?

[Gardamir]

bribing voters?

Everyone who voted remotely received bonuses. 1 bonus - 1 ruble. Bonuses from one thousand to four. You can upgrade the kettle for free or whatever your darling wants.

[Freeman]

Quote: Gardamir

bribing voters?

Everyone who voted remotely received bonuses. 1 bonus - 1 ruble. Bonuses from one thousand to four. You can upgrade the kettle for free or whatever your darling wants.

Not everyone, they didn’t charge me.
Maybe because I voted against?

[bar]

But is this not a bribery of voters?

Stopudovo is. Here, even some handed out free pens to some))))

[BAI]

He who feeds the girl dances her. Under capitalism we live.

[Finches]

I liked the elections in the USSR! At the polling stations there were always buffets with snacks, Zhigulevskoe beer ...

[Stas157]

Quote: Finches

Budget workers, I agree, the bosses asked to be, but they didn’t indicate exactly what to do! And I don’t see anything wrong with that - in the end, capitalism and the state must count money - since it pays to state employees, it may demand to come to the site on the day that pays!

This is not a state required come to the polls, and some officials who care about Putin more than their boss. At least Putin was broadcasting that citizens should come to vote without coercion. In your opinion, this did not concern state employees?

Voting is a citizen's right, not an obligation. And this moment is enshrined in the Constitution, which is violated in this case. To state employees that someone pays a salary from their personal money in order to demand that they fulfill their Wishlist? Public sector employees get paid from a common boiler, where everyone pays taxes (and those who disagree with the government, too). Therefore, the demands of government officials in favor of one of the parties (ED) go beyond their authority.

The wife is a state employee. So with them the authorities demanded not only to come to the polls, but also to report on it. Here is such an ugly picture.

Quote: Finches

I voted - "For"

Seriously? And in appearance it seems like a decent person ...
And I did not participate in this circus.

[Gardamir]

capitalism and the state must count the money - since it pays to state employees, it may demand to come to the site on the day that it pays!

This is what delights me! Everything that condemns the Soviet regime is resolved and enthralled under capitalism.

[SeregaBoss]

I am very glad that the majority is adequate in the country! Now all UAVs UAVs UAVs are not inters, it’s just an opinion of the near

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Gardamir

This is what delights me!

This is a hysterical reaction.

[Odessa Greek]

Went to vote with the whole family, voted "FOR", let the liberdya wipe himself out)

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Odessa Greek

Went to vote with the whole family, voted FOR,

Valke-cup glass senatorial life!

[AU Ivanov.]

As the St. Petersburg governor, Valka was very good against Yakovlev. And certainly not worse than Poltava.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

As the St. Petersburg governor, Valka was very good against Yakovlev.

It’s already not bad when the footballers of the city’s Zenit received a half-budget for health care for sick leave.

[AU Ivanov.]

I’m on the drum, who grabbed something: I don’t have the habit of counting money in someone else’s pockets, I have my own. But Valka established urban transport, set up sports and children's playgrounds, improved the yards in particular, and improved the city as a whole, and made the housing and communal services move. And yes, the roads.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

and the housing and communal services made me move.

Yes, I remember how some rotten pipes were dug up, and other rotten pipes were dug.

[AU Ivanov.]

Where, in St. Petersburg? My yard was landscaped precisely in her reign, before there was impassable dirt, and pits in place of asphalt. And the transport that went about an hour on a teaspoon began to work like an watch. Plus, the bus tram fleet has been updated. I won’t put the top five for her reign — there were flaws, but a solid four.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

Where, in St. Petersburg?

In St. Petersburg, in St. Petersburg.

Quote: AS Ivanov.

My yard was landscaped precisely in her reign

For those grandmothers that residents pay for a communal apartment, you can really blow up the lasers with a laser, as Valka suggested.

[AU Ivanov.]

I pay 6,3 thousand for 107 squares of the total area. Lot? I don’t think so.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

I pay 6,3 thousand for 107 squares of the total area. Lot?

Do you include electricity, internet, water bills in this amount, or is it just empty?

[BAI]

Valka adjusted

Easy to set up when there is money. KS, Gazprom transferred to Peter - funding has appeared. And most importantly, the Foreign Economic Forum. Under him as under the Olympics. And every year.

[AU Ivanov.]

Here, frankly, how it was done is not interesting to me. I am interested in the result. And the result was obvious.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Mordvin 3

when the footballers of the city’s Zenith got a half-budget for healthcare for their sick leave.

Well, if we have such laws. But do they pay taxes? They pay, it means they should be paid sick leave. And if the club does not pay insurance premiums, then this is a question for whom?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Pilat2009

In general, do they pay taxes? They pay, which means they are also entitled to sick leave.

But here’s the thing: the sick-list depends not on taxes, but on the salary, which players have in the hundreds of millions. He caught the poor fellow, coughed two weeks, if you please pay a couple of tens of millions for coughing.

[Pravodel]

Traitors, Bandera, Vlasovites will not pass and did not pass. The people are not for you, the people are against you. And it will always be so! The people have a long, long memory ... The people will not forget your rule in the dashing 90s and the sale of Russia in bulk and retail to the extortioners, villains and villains, and also enemies.

[Burn1978]

Now temporarily those in power are the direct successors of the affairs of those who arranged the 90s. They don't even deny it. Solzhenitsyn and Yeltsin are their idols. According to the "voting" it turns out that the "adequate" are satisfied with everything.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: The Truth

Traitors, Bandera, Vlasovites will not pass and did not pass. The people are not for you, the people are against you. And it will always be so! The people have a long, long memory ... The people will not forget your rule in the dashing 90s and the sale of Russia in bulk and retail to the extortioners, villains and villains, and also enemies.

So in the 90s Chubais ruled and ... his subordinate - Putin (from the Sobchak team)
And we (as part of the people) will not forget this. As a "fiery patriot", Vladimir Putin, having deserted from the state security organs and the CPSU to a team of ultraliberals, took an active part in the destruction and privatization of the USSR.

PS

sale of Russia wholesale and retail extortion, villains and villains, also enemies

The idea of ​​collateral auctions was put forward by Vladimir Potanin.
Which of today's oligarchs has enriched himself at secured auctions:
Potanin, Abramovich, Alekperov, Deripaska, Mordashov

source- Kommersant.ru from 13.11.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX: Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree...
For great merits to the state and many years of conscientious work, he was awarded the Order and Merit for the Fatherland, XNUMXnd class, by the president and major shareholder of MMC Norilsk Nickel Vladimir Potanin.

P.P.S

[Civil]

This is the existential loss of the Russian people, the bureaucracy, and judging by the aging of the population, this process of permanent degradation can no longer be stopped. However, it began in 1991.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Civil

loss of the Russian people, bureaucracy,

So people or bureaucracy? Poor thing, totally confused.

Quote: Civil

the process of permanent degradation can no longer be stopped.

The fact is obvious, but it is good that you are aware of this - therefore, you are not hopeless. Though...

[Civil]

So people or bureaucracy? Poor thing, totally confused.

People first of all) well, the bureaucracy is not taken from China either) The Titanic is one for all, well, maybe except for the oligarchs.

[Bomb]

You are still very far away from victory .....

[codetalker]

This would have to be done before the vote. Now then, when everyone knows everything.

[210ox]

So after all, a survey was conducted on the site.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Quote: codetalker

This would have to be done before the vote.

And what is the point of conducting such a survey at VO? What would he show? Yes, only the attitude to the amendments of regular visitors to the site, but no more. This survey cannot pretend to be any representative, in principle, for a number of reasons.

[mdsr]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

This survey cannot pretend to be any representative, in principle, for a number of reasons.

I agree with you. Can not. To do this, the pafmilova, or at least the Chmurs, should count. Then there will be CORRECT calculations

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: mdsr

I agree with you. Can not. To do this, the pafmilova, or at least the Chmurs, should count. Then there will be CORRECT calculations

That’s for sure, the polls at VO categorically do not correspond to the results of the CEC. However, in the opinion of local cheers, VO is a hotbed of liberals and Ukrainians, and this explains everything

[blackice]

This survey cannot pretend to be any representative, in principle, for a number of reasons.

Like all this show nationwide.

[Freeman]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

Quote: codetalker

This would have to be done before the vote.

And what is the point of conducting such a survey at VO? What would he show? Yes, only the attitude to the amendments of regular visitors to the site, but no more.

It is to clarify the mood of visitors to the site, this survey is conducted. To know which articles of political orientation to give preference, so as not to lose the audience.
The site is increasingly striving to become a narrowly specialized platform - a socio-political platform.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Yes, but only a few foolish citizens are in a hurry to level up the survey on the site with the results of voting in the whole country. And nagging about cheating, miscalculation, etc. begins. etc.

[Odessa Greek]

I agree, and recently, VO becomes the sediment of Rusovob and neoliberals)

[bar]

And what is the point of conducting such a survey at VO? What would he show?

The percentage of all the fans on this site, that's all

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: codetalker

This would have to be done before the vote. Now then, when everyone knows everything.

And so that you have an occasion to express your displeasure.

[Sergei 777]

21% against? Seriously... Obviously, the results are crooked.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Quote: Sergey 777

It’s obvious that the results are curves

Have you looked out the window and determined the real results? Or do you have some other way to determine the real ratio of those who voted FOR or Against?
I’ll tell you a secret that yesterday, by the nature of my service, I spent the whole day at one of the polling stations in my city. Accordingly, he was present at the vote counting. I'm afraid to upset you, but about 72% of people voted FOR, against about 25%, and the rest just ruined the bill.
At other polling stations, the results are about the same.
So my friend, you are trying to give out wishful thinking.

[Tochilka]

Something big is the percentage of spoiled. In the area where I was, it amounted to 0.9%. with 739 votes. Moreover, it was only one that was specially spoiled. Others are incorrectly filled.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Quote: Tochilka

Moreover, it was only one that was specially spoiled. Others are incorrectly filled.

Incorrectly filled billions are also considered damaged.

[Tochilka]

newsletters. Incorrectly filled commission also identified as spoiled. And she added a number to the final protocol.

[Deck]

I’ll tell you a secret that yesterday, by type of service, I spent the whole day at one of the polling stations in my city

Why are you disclosing secrets to where you were abandoned. The secret employee (sexot for short) should be silent, gloomy and merge with the surrounding landscape.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Quote: Deck

Secret employee (sex abbreviated) must be silent

What, bloody gebnya in every corner seems?
And what I secretly shared with you is not a state secret. And the expression "in secret" is just a common phrase used in a variety of contexts. In this case, the phrase "in secret" means only that what I said is absolutely not a secret at all. Do you understand?

[Deck]

Do not join our glorious state security organs. I had in mind the State Department or, in extreme cases, the Mossad.

[fider]

Deck (Pertti)
Do not cling to our glorious state security agencies. I meant the State Department or, in extreme cases, the Mossad. "
But Mossad does not need to get dirty, it's not for you.

[Deck]

Well then, Bolivian intelligence

[Serg65]

Quote: Deck

sex abbreviated

Hmm .. grinds you as an adult !!! No wonder Skomorokhov came up with a vote for you

[Phil77]

Quote: Deck

The secret employee (sexot for short) should be silent, gloomy and merge with the surrounding landscape.

Yes, okay! Everything is exactly the opposite. He was cheerful, talkative / the ability to * poison * jokes is welcome / and not to separate from the team surrounding him.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

I'm afraid to upset you, but about 72% of people voted FOR

What 72% ?! How will Kiriyenko announce this to Putin ?! Yes, he will send him to hell right away. 76% is already a sacred figure, everything revolves around it. If a similar vote were for Pension Reform, the result would be near this figure.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Quote: Stirbjorn

What 72% ?! How will Kiriyenko announce this to Putin ?! Yes, he will send him to hell

Good on poop come. Your type of humor will not change anything.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

Good on poop come. Your type of humor will not change anything.

"Rude, lad!" (C)

[Ryaruav]

all around is a solid box, so who and who walked and who didn’t go could not do anything, but at least the chief knows the true numbers

[kepmor]

glavnyuk for a long time already on the drum at the TsIKovsky tsifiri ... the main thing is that the slaves, as before, and with joy for brazing rations, are ready to bend their backs ...

[Tochilka]

As it was said, but on another occasion "this is not losh"

[Deniska999]

We are waiting for interesting times, in fact the authorities received carte blanche for any action. After all, 79% approving of a new and bright era.

[Gardamir]

in fact, the government received carte blanche

But someone in power knows the true state of affairs.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: Gardamir

But someone in power knows the true state of affairs.

What's the point? They wanted to spit on this knowledge. "The elephant is bad, the information is good" - as it was in the cartoon about the Kolobkov brothers.

[Gardamir]

They wanted to give a damn about this knowledge.

I disagree here. Clear. that the memo will go to the very top, "the country voted in unanimous impulse for." But someone will think, at first they did not go to vote, and then something else ...

[Freeman]

Quote: Gardamir

They wanted to give a damn about this knowledge.

But someone would think, at first they didn’t go to vote, and then something else ...

Do not entertain yourself with illusions.
Those who "did not go" will not go anywhere further.
And the more there are, the better for the "authorities".

[Per se.]

Quote: Banshee

about the Kolobkov brothers

Just about, "Koloboks are conducting the investigation," it would be relevant for the referendum.

I don’t understand anything! Or something happened, or one of two!

Voted "For-Against?"

Well, seriously, if the authorities of 20 years prevented anything from having clean hands, a warm heart and a cold head, for good deeds for Russia, now they have all the trump cards, it will be interesting to see. Will the Central Bank of the Russian Federation lend to the Russian economy, will it come to the Russian Crimea, and everything else that true patriots so hotly advertised on TV screens.

[Per se.]

PS Above there was skepticism about the referendum itself, in which I participated, I voted against, for some reason, which I expressed earlier in the comments. Unfortunately, there is too much patriotic demagogy, outright scam in campaigning before the referendum. But, I am for Russia, for the good of our people, how to achieve this, is another question.

[Gardamir]

But, I am for Russia, for the benefit of our people

Well, who for these words has instructed you minuses.

[Snail N9]

They said, even before the "vote", that "such necessary amendments" already support 2/3 of the population ... So, as they say in certain circles: "the programmed result is obtained in full accordance with the given algorithm" .... Honestly, I just have an emptiness in my soul, something broke ... in spite of the fact that everything was known in advance, and absolutely nothing solved this show, but ... all the same ... there was some hope ... for what? but fig knows ... However, now, it doesn't matter ... "In my opinion, this is the end, gentlemen ...." ("Two comrades served") ....

[Thrifty]

Well, gentlemen, where is the queue for the yoke around our neck, which we were so cleverly hung yesterday, under the guise of "democratic choice of the people" ??? Just like in the old joke, when God brought Eve to Adam and said, "Well , that choose your wife "! So we were" put before a choice yesterday "- not to go to the polls, or let the farce come true! And anyway, the result would be what the authorities ordered it.

[Olegater]

Good morning Dear forum users!
I could not resist and comment.
Who doubted that they would vote against?
And for the show, they drew a protest vote.
And I have a question, what are you going to do, who voted for when this zeroed out does not live up to your hopes? As with pension reform (the clearest example). Starting from July 1, housing and communal services tariffs will increase, the labeling of goods will be introduced (no matter how much and which), all the same, price increases. Money is sorely lacking. And tell the good people, what will happen next? Well, accepted the letter that life is getting better? Will prices go down? Will the gone money be returned from the West? Will they expel all bureaucrats with double-triple (homeland) passports?
Yeah, schaz, keep your pocket wider!
And vote like that in one fell swoop! Yes, people were not thrown like that.
And I’ll probably answer this way, until Mr. President returns the withdrawn, stolen money to the Russian economy, sends thieves to prison, restores social laws in the country, for me it's just a figure. Nothing decisive.

[Rubi0]

And if you voted against the fact that on earth would paradise come? And yes, why can’t you put up with the fact that 75% have a different opinion?

[Serg65]

Quote: Olegater

And I have a question

So I have a question .. what will you do, you are not always satisfied when you come to power? Well honestly .. WHAT?

[Olegater]

Good morning, dear forum users!
To the first question about humility with 75%, to be honest, their business is how to vote. Humility has nothing to do with it. Well then, these people do not let them complain that their power has deceived, offends, etc. share my point of view with the rest is my right. If you didn’t bring to mind your point of view, then this is either my miscalculations or a deaf person to the opinion of others.
And regarding the second question: if we come, as you say, "YOU, eternally dissatisfied" to power, then work for the good of the Motherland and no other way. Not to have property and everything of value abroad, to work for the people and in the name of the people!
What is really bad?
The counter question "Are you always satisfied with this power" has already shown what you are capable of. Withdrawing funds, what is wrong? They have several passports and their well-being abroad, why aren't these individuals "Your representatives are happy with everything"?
I tried several options to write an answer, everything turned out wrong. And if sharply, then call me, my opinion.

With respect to all!

[Serg65]

Quote: Olegater

As for the second question: if we come, as you put it, "YOU, eternally dissatisfied" to power, then work for the good of the Motherland and not otherwise.

It’s somehow vague, Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Navalny all the same about the good of the Motherland were baked and baked, but somehow I have little faith in them!

Quote: Olegater

if we come

What exactly? Only without slogans!

Quote: Olegater

Withdrawals, what's wrong?

Imagine, the great communists of the USSR also withdraw funds abroad! It was, is and will be! At least today’s people don’t lie about a future paradise under unrealizable communism!

Quote: Olegater

They have several passports and their well-being abroad, why aren't these individuals "Your representatives are happy with everything"?

For the most part they are YOURS, because they are also very dissatisfied with the authorities

[Olegater]

Yes, the dialogue did not work.
Well this is for the best. I’m not going to enter the bazaar. If you did not see in my comment the answer to your question is not my problem. If a person does not want to hear, he will not hear. Told ya. Yes, and powerful bastards came to power thanks to those who were always FOR and all contented elements. Rather, yours will remain in power thanks to you.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Olegater

Well this is for the best. I’m not going to enter the bazaar. If you did not see in my comment the answer to your question is not my problem. If a person does not want to hear, he will not hear.

Local pro-power trolls do not ask questions for answers. Therefore to the question

Quote: Serg65

So I have a question .. what will you do, you are not always satisfied when you come to power? Well honestly .. WHAT?

The simplest and most reasonable answer is as follows:
"I would forever ban user Serg65 on VO"

[Vadim237]

The simplest and most reasonable answer would be - "I don't know"

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Vadim237

The simplest and most reasonable answer would be - "I don't know"

Nonsense. You just need to be able to listen to people, and make a compromise.

[Vadim237]

There will be no compromise - you have to choose the lesser of two evils. There are too many Wishlist in countries and funds are limited offended as they do not stay cool.

[Burn1978]

You shouldn't be so. The Perpetually Disaffected is valuable for questioning what is happening and promoting change. From the "eternally dissatisfied" myself, I will answer as follows: establishing responsibility for those who are in power for the results of government according to their achievements, removing their immunity and introducing a clear recall mechanism, changing legislation in favor of an ordinary honest working man, redistributing income from the sale of natural resources, prohibiting offshore ... Lee Kuan Yew and Singapore are a good example. In Russia, millions and billions are stolen, even according to the Accounts Chamber ...

[Serg65]

Quote: Burn1978

The "eternally dissatisfied" are valuable in that they question what is happening and push change

Regarding "pushing changes", can you tell us more about where they have promoted and what changes?

Quote: Burn1978

establishment of responsibility, those in power for the results of the board on their achievements

I almost agree with this, why almost ...... not for the results of the reign, but during the reign, because a mistake, embezzlement and corruption are immediately visible and it makes no sense to wait for the results to be achieved! Here, for example, the Irkutsk governor Levchenko .. stole money allocated to help victims of the flood .... why not planted ????

Quote: Burn1978

removal of immunity from them and the introduction of a clear recall mechanism,

I completely agree with this!

Quote: Burn1978

changes in legislation in favor of an ordinary honest person of work, redistribution of income from the sale of natural resources,

What and how to change? And how to redistribute?

Quote: Burn1978

ban offshore

It is high time and as far as I know, this is already being done.
But I didn’t ask about that!
Opposition coming to power what exactly will it do? All that you described, it is a cosmetic repair of the current government and more!

[bar]

what will YOU do, forever not happy when you come to power? Well honestly .. WHAT?

They will come out to the square with a placard "DOWN!"
They don’t know anything else.

[Incvizitor]

And they are like ukry "yanyk must go" and then at least the grass does not grow.

[Ros 56]

In my opinion, VO begins to turn into a shout for 5 columns.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: Ros 56

In my opinion, VO begins to turn into a shout for 5 columns.

In my opinion, it’s time for you to look for another site for information and discussions. The site of the First Channel is quite suitable for you.

[Ros 56]

I’ll somehow manage without snotty advisers, where and what should I look and do.

[Serg65]

Quote: Banshee

I think you should go look for another site.

Roman, and who exactly are you to indicate where to be and where not to be? You are Nobody and call you No way, but for some reason imagined yourself the Lord of the universe !!!

Quote: Banshee

The site of Channel One is quite suitable for you.

Oh, rename the Military Review site to the Khuporkovsky mouthpiece! And you will be happy, only your fans and admirers will be on the site .. thank, Roman!

[fider]

Banshee (Novel)
Oh well done. And I thought badly of you. I’ll recover.

[Pytnik]

Wait, the virtual captain will soon be assigned for the deflection

[Woodman]

Quote: Banshee

I think you should go look for another site.

Doesn't your advice run counter to the politics of the "party"?

Quote: Banshee

The costs of democracy. It is necessary to post not only criticism, but also this.

[Masha]

In my opinion, it’s time for you to look for another site for information and discussions about it

like in a store .... don't like go to another
Not afraid of losing purchasing power?
Although what am I talking about? enough liberal consumers ... it's a shame for the site .... turned into the trash ....

[DVR]

like in a store .... don't like go to another winked
Not afraid of losing purchasing power?

Normally, for a website, such holivars are just that. If there were no Roman, he would have had to be invented. And a couple of Sylvesters and Malyut under his articles. It is under them that there are most comments. Take "paralay" or other forums - peace and blessing, all smart, all professionals. So it would be here, but Roman, among others, tries, and battles every day
Thanks to Roman!

[Masha]

Quote: DVR

Thanks to Roman!

why not thank you? thank!!! on shit rating does! well done! Bravo!!!!!!!!

[bar]

In my opinion, it's time for you to look for another site for information

For once, I agree with Skomorokhov. For information, this site, thanks to the efforts of Roman himself, has not been suitable for a long time. And it’s a pity, the idea at its creation was interesting. It is a pity that all performers on the ground spoiled everything.

[Snarkxnumx]

"horn 5 columns"
Apparently not five columns. And hundreds, thousands, millions.

[AU Ivanov.]

It so seems to them that there are millions of them. Like motorcyclists on the streets: there are few of them, just a lot of noise from them.

[Mouse]

Like motorcyclists on the streets: there are few of them, just a lot of noise from them

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Quote: Ros 56

In my opinion, VO begins to turn into a shout for 5 columns.

Definitely like that!

[Volodin]

Quote: Ros 56

In my opinion, VO begins to turn into a shout for 5 columns.

And, in your opinion, the first sign of the "mouthpiece of the 5th column" is a question to citizens about how citizens voted? If such a question cannot be asked after the vote, then there is a reason to think about who and where the real 5th column is and who exactly is its mouthpiece - are these readers-commentators ...

[Ros 56]

Why don’t you understand simple things, you can’t ask, you can’t draw any conclusions based on their results, because here on the site for the most part people of certain interests related to the military and weapons gather, and not at all teachers, doctors, turners or seamstresses motorists.

[Karabin]

Quote: Ros 56

and not teachers, doctors, turners, or motor-seamstresses.

I am a teacher, at VO 8 years. I know who the doctor, driver, forwarder, seller is. I know fans of Bacchus and a sober image, believers and atheists, lovers of cats and dogs, etc. So, conclusions can and should be made. The HE forum can be seen as a section of society. If you read the comments for 5 years, you can notice how the opinion of the majority of visitors has changed in relation to the authorities, to the situation in the country.

[Ros 56]

Here you are very mistaken in this, a specific site cannot be a slice of society by definition, but you have the right to think so.

[Karabin]

Quote: Ros 56

a specific site cannot be a slice of society by definition

What is so specific about it, really "shoulder straps"? Especially in the sections "Opinions" and "Analytics" the general political theme has long "won out" the narrow military one.

[bar]

In my opinion, it's time for you to look for another site for information

And how did it change? I’m only here for the second year, for this I don’t know all the dynamics. But in my humble opinion, all-propaganda activists have recently intensified, to which, using their official position, certain members of the site’s editors clearly had a hand in it. And what do you think?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Karabin

I am a teacher, at VO 8 years. I know who the doctor, driver, forwarder, seller is. I know fans of Bacchus and a sober image, believers and atheists, lovers of cats and dogs, etc. So, conclusions can and should be made.

There is little female gender. Mother said yesterday:
“I'm going to vote.”
- For whom?
- For the amendments.
“Have you read them?”
- Not. And it is necessary? On TV they say they are good.
A curtain.

[Woodman]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Mother said yesterday:
“I'm going to vote.”
- For whom?
- For the amendments.
“Have you read them?”
- Not. And it is necessary? On TV they say they are good.
A curtain.

So she trusts Putin more than you.
Those who did not read, but voted (it does not matter FOR / AGAIN) only expressed their trust / distrust to the president, since this is his initiative. And to study the amendments, if desired, there was more than enough time.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Lesovik

So she trusts Putin more than you.

And I didn’t say anything about the amendments, unlike the TV, which was yapping from morning till night with the voices of Bezrukov and Matsuev.

The data of the Central Election Commission (CEC) leads RIA Novosti.

77,92 percent voted for the amendments, 21,27 percent against.

https://lenta.ru/news/2020/07/02/okonchateln/?utm_campaign=breaking-news&utm_medium=browser-notification&utm_source=push-notification
Who would doubt that ... Congratulations, submission succeeded.

[Woodman]

Quote: Mordvin 3

And I didn’t say anything about the amendments, unlike the TV, which squealed from morning to evening

In addition to the TV, there is also a refrigerator, which probably "spoke" in unison with the TV. (joke).

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Lesovik

Quote: Mordvin 3

Mother said yesterday:
“I'm going to vote.”
- For whom?
- For the amendments.
“Have you read them?”
- Not. And it is necessary? On TV they say they are good.
A curtain.

So she trusts Putin more than you.
Those who did not read, but voted (it does not matter FOR / AGAIN) only expressed their trust / distrust to the president, since this is his initiative. And to study the amendments, if desired, there was more than enough time.

She was simply "fooled" from the TV screen - all business then!
I also have a couple of acquaintances who went and voted "for" - and were VERY surprised that they voted for "shoveling" - when I told them They were on TV and didn’t hear the words in the advertisement about it - and Putin didn’t stand up for the spirit because he had postponed their pension for 5 years

[Woodman]

Quote: Corona without virus

on TV and the words in the advertisement did not hear about it

And I just found out about it from the TV)) Although I watch it very rarely))) I was probably lucky ... But here I heard a lot of different opinions))

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Lesovik

Quote: Corona without virus

on TV and the words in the advertisement did not hear about it

And I just found out about it from the TV)) Although I watch it very rarely))) I was probably lucky ... But here I heard a lot of different opinions))

I’m 50 years old, my circle of acquaintances is + -10 years old ... so much ... Everyone hates Putin that they will not retire at 55/60 ... EVERYTHING !!! But they knew that when they vote for amendments, they vote for Putin — a few !!! ... Draw your own conclusions ... What if there was a normal company for voting, and videos would constantly spin on TV, that you would vote for amendments vote for eternity for the person who stole your 5 years of your life - what would be the results of the vote? ...

[Woodman]

Quote: Corona without virus

I’m 50 years old, my circle of acquaintances is + -10 years old ... so much ... Everyone hates Putin that they will not retire at 55/60 ... EVERYTHING !!! But they knew that when they vote for amendments, they vote for Putin — a few !!! ..

Why didn't you "enlighten" them? Realistically, you know what they "hate", but you didn't know that they were not aware of this amendment?
Yes, just the other day, the media circulated Putin’s words that he doesn’t exclude the possibility of going to new elections. Your friends do not use the Internet, do not read newspapers? Six months of discussions passed? Moreover, this amendment was mainly discussed for half a year.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Lesovik

Quote: Corona without virus

I’m 50 years old, my circle of acquaintances is + -10 years old ... so much ... Everyone hates Putin that they will not retire at 55/60 ... EVERYTHING !!! But they knew that when they vote for amendments, they vote for Putin — a few !!! ..

Why didn't you "enlighten" them? Realistically, you know what they "hate", but you didn't know that they were not aware of this amendment?
Yes, just the other day, the media circulated Putin’s words that he doesn’t exclude the possibility of going to new elections. Your friends do not use the Internet, do not read newspapers? Six months of discussions passed? Moreover, this amendment was mainly discussed for half a year.

Out of roughly 50 of my acquaintances (from a homeless person to a deputy minister of the region), at best, 25 are interested in politics - so they knew that ... And the rest "screwed up", because they no longer believe in good ...

[AU Ivanov.]

It can be considered as a section of society, but it can also be considered as a testing ground for running through political technologies.

[Incvizitor]

Unfortunately nowadays it is full of whiners who have nothing to do with the army or the armament, just sit and whine like jackals, even in articles with a different topic.
It is necessary for them to have a separate heading "column of mourners" let them sit there like on an echo of matzo and decent people will simply not go there.

[DVR]

And, in your opinion, the first sign of the "mouthpiece of the 5th column" is a question to citizens about how citizens voted?

I think, Yuri, did not quite correctly put it, and you did not understand him correctly. He apparently means that VO involuntarily turns into the mouthpiece of the 5th column due to the abundance of protrolls, which do not always state an objective anti-Russian position. If anything, let him fix it.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: DVR

He apparently means that VO involuntarily turns into the mouthpiece of the 5th column because of the abundance of protrolls, which do not always set forth an objective anti-Russian position. If anything, let him correct it.

Why do you consider any position different from yours anti-Russian?

[DVR]

Why do you consider any position different from yours anti-Russian?

Do not be fooled, I do not consider any position other than mine to be anti-Russian. And those that I consider as such, just because they coincide with the position of the enemies of Russia, it’s obvious :) I don’t get any clear answers from them, there’s nothing concrete, the discussion, as a rule, is taken by opponents towards meaningless phrases, populist slogans, sometimes emotions.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: DVR

Do not be fooled, I do not consider any position other than mine to be anti-Russian. And those that I consider as such, just because they coincide with the position of the enemies of Russia, it’s obvious :) I don’t get any clear answers from them, there’s nothing concrete, the discussion, as a rule, is taken by opponents towards meaningless phrases, populist slogans, sometimes emotions.

Do not be cunning, any position other than pro-government, you are trying to put anti-Russian.

[DVR]

Do not be cunning, any position other than pro-government, you are trying to put anti-Russian.

You're lying again, Alex. Here is one of my comments:

... it is absolutely true that "The management of the company missed the biting blow, to put it mildly, forgetting about their own protection ...". And this is very mildly said. Did they think the States would just give up one of the pillars of their hegemony (Europe cut off from Russia)? For decades to cut off Europe, invest trillions in it, and then simply allow Russia to implement projects here as part of its strategy. Moreover, this is a repetition of what already happened when the Union was building the Druzhba pipeline. Sanctions, a one-year delay in launching, ... everything is repeated. The management approached the implementation irresponsibly. ... Everything had to be ready at the beginning of work: both Chersky, and Fortuna and everything else, and not be on the other side of the world. Nothing hindered this.

Can this be called a pro-government position? The authorities in this case crap one's pants, and I recorded this in the text.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: DVR

You're lying again, Alex. Here is one of my comments:

"Here is the voice of a true liberal, he could not resist - the poor fellow burst through. You (the majority) are hopelessly stupid, and I am d'Artagnan, you are anchovies, and we are dolphins, you are flies, and we are bees ..."
"I see perfectly well beyond the nose, I see how people live, how the roads are being built and of what quality, how the infrastructure is changing, I also see the numbers. Why talk in slogans? Let's have the numbers, compare the indicators of the late 90s and today, and everything will be visible."
"You only see it. I can just as well assume that you are being financed by Putin's opponents."
"And I believe the person from whom the enemies of Russia, represented by the representatives of the United States and the transnational elite, are mutilated. It was with Yeltsin that they kissed on the gums, praised and helped him in every possible way."
Give your more comments or enough? Try to understand that if people have a different attitude to the current government, a different position on the path of development of Russia, this does not mean at all that they live in (in) Ukraine or the United States and are liberals or a fifth column.

[DVR]

Give your more comments or enough? Try to understand that if people have a different attitude to the current government, a different position on the path of development of Russia, this does not mean at all that they live in (in) Ukraine or the United States and are liberals or a fifth column.

Why all this, you confused yourself completely
You wrote:

Why any positiondifferent from yours do you consider anti-Russian?
Don't be cunning any positiondifferent from pro-government, you are trying to set anti-Russian.

I gave you an example where I prove that I do not consider any position different from mine and pro-government to be anti-Russian. From this example it is clearly seen that I myself express a position different from pro-government.

"Here is the voice of a true liberal, he could not resist - the poor fellow burst through. You (the majority) are hopelessly stupid, and I am d'Artagnan, you are anchovies, and we are dolphins, you are flies, and we are bees ..."

The man said that the majority are stupid "the amendments have not really read, and their opinion is the noodles that the Nightingale hangs and jelly", my reaction is quite adequate, isn't it? And his reaction is very similar to the reaction of our liberals, whom I have quoted.

"I see perfectly well beyond the nose, I see how people live, how the roads are being built and of what quality, how the infrastructure is changing, I also see the numbers. Why talk in slogans? Let's have the numbers, compare the indicators of the late 90s and today, and everything will be visible."

Here the man spoke with slogans, I asked for the numbers - he merged, what's wrong?

"You only see it. I can just as well assume that you are being financed by Putin's opponents."

In this case, it was the answer to the opponent's phrase: "And according to the statements one sees something else: the card of a member of" Edra "burns his pocket ...". Am I wrong about something?

"And I believe the person from whom the enemies of Russia, represented by the representatives of the United States and the transnational elite, are mutilated. It was with Yeltsin that they kissed on the gums, praised and helped him in every possible way."

Here I set out the facts, are they incorrect?
I understand that this may be a flood, but it is on your initiative.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: DVR

they coincide with the position of the enemies of Russia, it’s obvious :) I don’t get any clear answers from them, the specifics are zero, the discussion, as a rule, is taken by opponents towards meaningless phrases, populist slogans, sometimes emotions.

The same thing about people like you can say. You haven’t written anything concrete right now. Understand how you want.

[DVR]

You haven’t written anything concrete right now.

I wrote everything specifically, even very much, for each of my quotes given by Alexei. He substantiated the falsity of his thesis that I consider any position other than pro-government as anti-Russian. So do not lie, Vladimir.
And Alexei is a liar, and he merged in our last discussion (about cormorant).

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: DVR

And Alexei is a liar, and he merged in our last discussion (about cormorant).

You asked for a comment, I gave. I repeat

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: DVR

Prove, don't be a cormorant.

For example: "The Jews in this world will always rule ... and ... all correct concepts of the beautiful, the sublime, the noble and the good ... are invented by them."
https://mylib.pro/ru/book/adolf-gitler-1/moya-borba#google_vignette
In your opinion is this a quote? You can see the rules of citation here: https://orfogrammka.ru/OGL03/70091470.html
And today, intentionally or not, but you are a liar and a manipulator.

I wrote to you how the comments are written. But in response to this, you wrote the most perfect game, which you do not want to comment on. All that you and others like you can lie and label. And I don’t have the opportunity to spend much time on the site, unlike some, they don’t pay money for comments. Therefore, I repeat, I don’t have time to comment on your next one, like any other nonsense.

Quote: DVR

I wrote everything specifically, even very much, for each of my quotes given by Alexei. He substantiated the falsity of his thesis that I consider any position other than pro-government as anti-Russian. So do not lie, Vladimir.

You re-read your comments, worthless, such "justifications".

Quote: DVR

Let's give the numbers, compare the indicators of the late 90s and today, and everything will be visible "

Since 1913 do not want to compare? Correctly compare the performance of the late 80's.

Quote: DVR

Here I set out the facts, are they incorrect?

What are the facts? Was the Yeltsin "family" transplanted? Where is Chubais now, is the forest sawing in Kolyma? Who built the Yeltsin Center?

Quote: DVR

"Here is the voice of a true liberal, he could not resist - the poor fellow burst through. You (the majority) are hopelessly stupid, and I am d'Artagnan, you are anchovies, and we are dolphins, you are flies, and we are bees ..."

And how can you comment on this nonsense? Among other things, you are also a thief who steals someone else’s time demanding answers to his completely insane posts.

[DVR]

And how can you comment on this nonsense? Among other things, you are also a thief who steals someone else’s time demanding answers to his completely insane posts.

The poet’s soul could not stand it Carried a blizzard.
All my comments are publicly available. Everyone has the opportunity to read any of my discussions, incl. and with you (article - What will NOT be in the Constitution). In almost all heated discussions, opponents were unable to substantiate anything, present any arguments, and sometimes, as you are now, demonstrated absolute ignorance and narrow-mindedness. Now I can easily humiliate you once again for every "thesis" you cite, but I will not do this, you have already stolen a lot of time from me.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: DVR

He substantiated the falsity of his thesis that I consider any position other than pro-government as anti-Russian. So do not lie, Vladimir.

Ugh! It would be easier to write, without kooky, otherwise you won’t understand without a glass.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: DVR

Why do you consider any position different from yours anti-Russian?

Do not be fooled, I do not consider any position other than mine to be anti-Russian. And those that I consider as such, just because they coincide with the position of the enemies of Russia, it’s obvious :) I don’t get any clear answers from them, there’s nothing concrete, the discussion, as a rule, is taken by opponents towards meaningless phrases, populist slogans, sometimes emotions.

Well, let's debate with me I’m not an enemy of Russia - I’m her fan and citizen, and therefore I think that we, Russians need to live better, and not worse)))

[DVR]

I’m not an enemy of Russia - I’m her fan and citizen, and therefore I think that we, Russians need to live better, and not worse)))

Come on, only I do not protroll, I warn you, I now have to run now, things. And so it’s impermissible to give a lot of time on vacation to discussions. If your text is already a subject of discussion, then I support you 100%

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: DVR

I’m not an enemy of Russia - I’m her fan and citizen, and therefore I think that we, Russians need to live better, and not worse)))

Come on, only I do not protroll, I warn you, I now have to run now, things. And so it’s impermissible to give a lot of time on vacation to discussions. If your text is already a subject of discussion, then I support you 100%

During the non-quarantine period of 3 months that did not allow my company to work - 15 years on the market by the way - our company is bankrupt, I am unemployed, I am resting in the country, so I'm NOT in a hurry Ready to wait for your online

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Corona without virus

our company bankrupt

My bourgeois too.

Quote: Corona without virus

relaxing in the country

And I, you loafers, pump water.

[DVR]

Just arrived, went over with the Kent, on vacation though. As some of my opponents say, I went over the boyars :) But I do not mind discussing it. Thanks to quarantine, I first got the experience of chatting online. In my fifth decade I gained invaluable experience, I learned a lot about online battles :)

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: DVR

Just arrived, went over with the Kent, on vacation though. As some of my opponents say, I went over the boyars :) But I do not mind discussing it. Thanks to quarantine, I first got the experience of chatting online. In my fifth decade I gained invaluable experience, I learned a lot about online battles :)

That is why I did not start the discussion yesterday - for "the pickle is our everything !!!"
I am ready - if you are ready

[DVR]

That is why I did not start the discussion yesterday - for "the pickle is our everything !!!"
I am ready - if you are ready

Of course I’m ready :) Oh, the age is not the same for such swindlers, but earlier ...

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: DVR

That is why I did not start the discussion yesterday - for "the pickle is our everything !!!"
I am ready - if you are ready

Of course I’m ready :) Oh, the age is not the same for such swindlers, but earlier ...

I will answer the classics of the genre


And on the "case" - let's start our discussion with you on raising the retirement age in Russia
Initial data:
1. There is a President of Russia who has repeatedly stated that while he is president of Russia, raising the retirement age will NOT
2. If a person has lied once - on a large scale - can one continue to believe him?

[DVR]

1. There is a President of Russia who has repeatedly stated that while he is president of Russia, raising the retirement age will NOT

Of course, I do not support pension reform. In my opinion, raising the retirement age is due to a number of reasons. These are economic reasons, a demographic situation, and one cannot but take into account the partially colonial status of the Russian Federation. Look at the retirement age in other countries, there are not so many of them, where the retirement age is lower than in Russia.

If a person has lied once - on a large scale - can one continue to believe him?

This he promised, EMNIP, in 2005. Of course, lying is not good, but to calculate everything for such a prospect, in my opinion, is extremely difficult. The world has changed beyond recognition during this period. Process dynamics are paradoxically unpredictable. I personally do not perceive this as a lie. As a miscalculation, an error - yes, it was not necessary to pronounce these words in 2005. And you can believe, objectively, the situation of the Russian Federation and citizens of the Russian Federation during the presidency of Putin has improved.

Drink less

Thanks for the advice, but somehow I will decide how much and with whom :)

[Virus-free crown]

Do not go away from the answer, pliz, if you want to discuss honestly with me
I’m even ready to meet you - please quote when Putin actively repents to the people of Russia that his promise not to raise his retirement age was a mistake?

[DVR]

Do not go away from the answer, pliz, if you want to discuss honestly with me

I answered you honestly and even point-by-point.

I’m even ready to meet you -

I do not ask to go forward, this is your solely personal matter, where do you go

quote when Putin actively repents to the people of Russia that his promise not to raise his retirement age was a mistake?

I don’t follow all Putin’s speeches, I have no idea if he said this or not. I see this promise in 2005 as a mistake. In fact, he deceived - this is his mistake, did not calculate the long term, said too much. I do not see anything critical in this. I already wrote all this above.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: DVR

Do not go away from the answer, pliz, if you want to discuss honestly with me

I answered you honestly and even point-by-point.

I’m even ready to meet you -

I do not ask to go forward, this is your solely personal matter, where do you go

quote when Putin actively repents to the people of Russia that his promise not to raise his retirement age was a mistake?

I don’t follow all Putin’s speeches, I have no idea if he said this or not. I see this promise in 2005 as a mistake. In fact, he deceived - this is his mistake, did not calculate the long term, said too much. I do not see anything critical in this. I already wrote all this above.

Well then, our discussion ends there
Do you know ... I am a "man of honor" ... and if we draw a parallel between Putin and a man who, having sex with a woman, promised to marry her later, and when the children appeared, he said to her, “I never know what I promised you "... That I personally think - promised to marry - get married !!!

[DVR]

Well then, our discussion ends there

All the best, thanks for communicating.

[AU Ivanov.]

If the position is consonant with the anti-Russian position of the West, then it, sorry for the tautology, is anti-Russian.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

If the position is consonant with the anti-Russian position of the West, then it, sorry for the tautology, is anti-Russian.

For what reason have you arrogated to yourself the right to talk about whose position is about Russian and which is anti-Russian? In my opinion, for example, our government today conducts an anti-people and anti-Russian policy.

[AU Ivanov.]

Vika Nuland and Borya Johnson with Biden also think the same way you do. You have a good company - keep it up!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

Vika Nuland and Borya Johnson with Biden also think the same way you do. You have a good company - keep it up!

What do they think? What have you undeservedly arrogated to yourself the right to label? It is completely incomprehensible from your comment. And what about Nuland and Biden at all? Did they carry out pension reform with us? Missed when Ukraine began to turn into an anti-Russian pro-Fashi state? Diesel fuel poured into the river? Domestic policy cannot be built on an endless search for external enemies.

[AU Ivanov.]

They demand exactly the same thing as you: "Putin, go away!" It was you who glued them to yourself, and I am just stating a fact.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

They demand exactly the same thing as you: "Putin, go away!" It was you who glued them to yourself, and I am just stating a fact.

Yes, when you already understand that Putin or Shmutin defends this oligarchic clan of "privatizers", for me there is no difference. Therefore, "Putin-go away!" this is not my slogan. My slogans are the revision of the results of privatization, and personal responsibility for this theft, nationalization of the banking system and nationalization of sectoral enterprises.

[AU Ivanov.]

What ends the redistribution of property, tell you? And who, in their right mind and firm memory, will invest in a country where private property is so freely treated? And are you sure that nationalization is a panacea? An example of Belarus does not bother you?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

What ends the redistribution of property, tell you? And who, in their right mind and firm memory, will invest in a country where private property is so freely treated?

Maybe your memory will not be so selective and you remember where this private property came from our oligarchs? Is it legally obtained? How much have you invested in, say, the Stalinist USSR? Is it necessary to compare what was built then and this hour?

Quote: AS Ivanov.

And are you sure that nationalization is a panacea?

No, a panacea is a change in the socio-economic formation.

[AU Ivanov.]

With all due respect to Stalin, industrialization was carried out due to a sharp deterioration in the life of the population of the USSR. At the expense of the people, God forbid to live in this era. Change the economic formation? What, again, on the scoop, you did not bite them? Or are there other options?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

With all due respect to Stalin, industrialization was carried out due to a sharp deterioration in the life of the population of the USSR.

What are your conclusions based on? In your opinion, the population of the USSR during industrialization lived worse than civilian life?

Quote: AS Ivanov.

God forbid to live in this era

And I wouldn’t refuse.

Quote: AS Ivanov.

What, again, on the scoop, you did not bite them?

I don’t want to write how much the USSR was more powerful than today's Russia and how much it was a more social state.

Quote: AS Ivanov.

Or are there other options?

What is the Stalinist USSR with its cooperatives and cooperatives, but without private ownership of the means of production you are not satisfied?
And yes, you didn’t answer who gave you the right to label?
Have our oligarchs obtained property legally?
Why are you protecting them like that? What are they for you?
Many people see another way for Russia and love it no less than yours.

[Vadim237]

What doesn’t suit - the lack of freedom of action and their decisions, the lack of a high-tech competition, the shortage of tool materials - as a result of which the technical backwardness of the state as a whole, which the USSR demonstrated in the civilian sector and mechanical engineering when comparing it with Western manufacturers, is what kind of cooperatives and cooperatives you put into the planned economy . In a market economy there will always be millionaires, middle-class billionaires, and the poor cannot get away from it - since the whole world lives in a market economy with all its pluses and minuses, it suits the majority of the population.

[Serg65]

Quote: Volodin

And, in your opinion, the first sign of the "mouthpiece of the 5th column" is a question to citizens about how citizens voted?

No, of course, everyone has his own opinion and he is free to do what he wants, but when the site’s management purposefully and regularly conducts AGAINST against the authorities, then this suggests the development of a certain order aimed at destabilizing society ... or am I wrong?

[Tank jacket]

More than right, Russophobic articles and articles aimed at people who do not understand the government and global politics are published rightly as never before. Let public administration explain, and not take advantage of the lack of knowledge about governance.

[tatra]

And who is the "fifth column" for you? Liberators in the highest echelons of Putin's power, in the leadership of large state corporations? Or those who are unhappy with the fact that Putin, together with the liberals, are doing things to Russia and its people?
And I refused to participate in this farce. And by the way Tereshkova was deliberately framed with a proposal to "nullify" Putin, counting on her Soviet merits, in order to "shut the mouths" of all dissatisfied "nullification" of Putin with them, and by how viciously, aggressively, rudely they behaved Putin's propagandists, who staged a frenzy against all who were against the "zeroing" of Putin, the authorities themselves have proved that they have no honest arguments for changing the Constitution.

[Serg65]

Quote: tatra

Liberasts in the highest echelons of Putin's power, in the leadership of large state-owned corporations?

At the same time, you, as a "real communist" without a twinge of conscience, work off the money of the same liberals and even sleep peacefully
And yes ... that I did not see in your comments the already classic phrase "enemies of real communists"?

[Sergey Medvedev]

Quote: Ros 56

In my opinion, VO begins to turn into a shout for 5 columns.

I agree with you. Kremlebotov and Zaputinians need to be defined exactly this way - the 5th column.

[Parabelum]

Woah, woah easy, easy. Here above, a person is outraged by hanging labels and wants to be able to express their opinion.

[The popuas]

It began to transform itself after the pension "reform", and before it there was continuous "approval" the majority simply revised their views on the actions of GDP, so it started

[military_cat]

It is unlikely that the majority - rather, a noticeable part of actively commenting. And the majority, as can be seen from the results at the top of the page, even supports zeroing.

[The popuas]

Actively commenting, there are also non-citizens of the Russian Federation, so everything is relative.

[goscha]

Judging by the voting on the site, the majority is still deaf, blind and unconscious. This is how Podtelkov's words come to mind: “You are stupid people. Blind people. Afterwards, come to your senses, but it will be too late! ''

[bar]

In my opinion, VO begins to turn into a shout for 5 columns.

Just noticed it now? I’ve been writing about this for a long time, they have already mined the wax

[BISMARCK94]

Well, we are waiting for the bright future! It’s good to hide behind a democratic tablet, you see, monk!

[Bashkirkhan]

What is most surprising is that citizens really believe that having prescribed in the Constitution that morning is morning, night is night, then everything will change radically from July 2, that long-awaited paradise will come: salaries will rise, roads will appear and tp fantasies. In Russia, where the basic law has never been respected by anyone, even by the first person, it suddenly starts to work?

[Vitalich57]

Quote: Ros 56

In my opinion, VO begins to turn into a shout for 5 columns.

Similarly, VO does not turn, but has long become ........ but despite the yapping from under the gateway, common sense has won. Let them continue to poison, they paid for it

[Karabin]

Quote: Vitalich57

common sense won.

[Tank jacket]

Shuvalov is no longer in the government ... Kudrin too ...

[Parabelum]

So the pictures then remained

[RUS96]

Here is the database of who, where and how much voted. Not how (this is the secret of the vote), namely where, what time. Why not put this info in the personal account of the State Service. That you could go in and check.
Why they don’t do it, the answer is simple. Many people would be surprised at where and what time they voted, and many would be surprised at all that they went to vote.
So just ***, of course, no one wants to. I will repeat the thought, which I already said here
We do not take power from us then to give it back, especially in elections of some kind.
Including what kind of numbers you need, such and draw

[Alexander Dolgov]

Many acquaintances voted "FOR" in the same way. There is someone against. Why are you shedding tears here. This constitution is just plain paper. The USSR also had WHAT? Saved?

[Karabin]

Quote: Alexander Dolgov

This constitution is plain paper.

Why then voted? The bosses scold?

[Vadim237]

Of course, the bosses scold - it’s everywhere, throughout Russia, it monitors all its employees online 24 hours a day, that they sign where they go, for whom they vote, and so on. Straight clairvoyants and level 100 telepaths.

[Moonsund]

As in the wonderful film "Kill the Dragon", through the mouth of Yankovsky: "now everything is just beginning." Now the dragon has grown and matured completely. And by its very nature, it will devour and bend the backs of the townspeople, in servile bows. For he is called to guard his untold riches. For you are a resource and food for him. I hope the allegory is clear to all indifferent comrades, who for some reason decided that the best solution is not to participate? Not everything will be very good, for ordinary people

[Rubi0]

According to the number of bloggers living in the heart of the capital and Moscow, the city has, then ordinary people taking video clips about all kinds of nonsense as they ate slept all well, do not worry so much for everyone

[Karabin]

Quote: Moonsund

what's the best solution, don't get involved

Exactly. For the dragon on the side is your "no". It is important for the dragon that you play by its rules. And your appearance in the circus will be waving jelly nightingales for another two weeks.

[Fungus]

The people of Russia sent the American constitution! Fine

[DVR]

The people of Russia sent the American constitution! Fine

And with the embassy of the mattresses it was generally cool. Well troll in response to the LGBT flag

YOUR WAS ... BECOMES OUR!

[parusnik]

Okay, thank God it ended, or else they’re ready to gnaw each other’s throats, I began to repent, I rebelled, I exchanged my old for a beautiful wrapper, forgive me people, etc. .... You will exhale. Everything will be alright, I told you yesterday they said this ...

[rocket757]

When nothing changes, is it good or not good?
The amendments, in fact, are about nothing, because they confirmed that it was possible and needed to be done that way.

[parusnik]

When nothing changes

... called stability

[rocket757]

Oh, that stability.
A lot can be called places in which stability, I really do not want to be enthusiastic.

[parusnik]

Come on ... the main thing: sausage, toilet paper, imported clothes, imported gadgets and everything else is there, even freedom is there ... People are happy, there are 400 more amendments there ... Life is getting better, more fun ...

[rocket757]

It is from these amendments that there is nothing. In general, I see no reason for such a heated discussion.

[parusnik]

Well, people are glad .. Don’t stop people from being mistaken. They were mistaken in the 90s when they put themselves on their knees, and now they are in another, that they were lifted from their knees ... They are happy.

[rocket757]

Much is involved, different, the suspension is not transparent, it turned out, by simple, the turbidity is complete. To understand this batch .... in short, it would be necessary more carefully.

[Woodman]

Quote: parusnik

, thank God ended, otherwise they’re ready to cut each other’s throats,

In less than a week, another reason will appear and everything will start anew.

[parusnik]

It won’t start .... Everything is already guaranteed ... as many as 400 amendments! ... In the US Constitution for more than 300 years, only 16 ... for example ... Life is just beginning ... Before that, everything was bad from -for the pro-American Constitution, and now having thrown off the American yoke, what changes await in a positive sense ... Why bite ...?

[Woodman]

Quote: parusnik

Will not start .... Everything is already guaranteed.

Come on ... Already about the beginning, about the temple for example.

Quote: parusnik

US Constitution for 300+ years

Until the 300th anniversary, they are still half a century old. And they also have blacks rebelling - they probably require amendments

[parusnik]

Well, a typo ... instead of 200, 300 I wrote ... So in any case, they made 200 for 16 years .. we 400 for 30 years ... This is the same indicator ... Caught up and overtaken .... So otherwise, we’ll definitely overtake ... Thank God we are not blacks, we do not demand anything ... they all give us, even amendments ... communism ..

[Woodman]

Quote: parusnik

.So anyway, they contributed for 200 years 16 .. we 400 for 30 years ..

Yeah. You count how many Constitutions themselves have had during these two hundred years.

[DVR]

In the US Constitution for more than 300 years, only 16 ... so for example ...

The United States did not lose the Cold War and was not in the status of a colony.

[Olegi1]

The survey data on the site, both this and any other, can not reflect the views of society: the audience is different. Conduct the same survey on sites, for example, Vesti FM and Echo of Moscow. Then compare the results.

[rocket757]

The fact that such polls are not for anyone is understandable ... but the general trend remains on average everywhere.
The active part of the citizens is one and the same, it captures itself almost everywhere. Little depends on random visitors.

[Olegi1]

I correctly understand that you are saying that any survey on any site captures an opinion on the issue of active visitors to a particular site?

And yes, I forgot to say: I voted FOR.

[rocket757]

Quote: Olegi1

any survey on any site captures the opinion on the issue of active visitors to a particular site

polls record everyone, registered or not, it depends on the site / poll. An insignificant part of the population is active, and they make the results of the voting ... casual visitor, it's about nothing, there are not so many of them, they affect the overall result a little.
PS also voted FOR ... for the preservation of local time in our region, we do not need Moscow.

[The popuas]

In addition, the site has a lot of foreigners, so this survey does not show anything!

[rocket757]

If you come up against it, it’s possible to blind any conclusions from such a survey ... it’s a tricky thing

[The popuas]

Well, some of this site does not take

[rocket757]

There is EVERYTHING on the site !!! And the "grandmothers Vanga", "Nostradamus", "Freuds" in an unmeasured amount who "read your thoughts", although obviously, they simply project their Wishlist for your reasoning ... and there are no FANTAZERS at all !!! And further down the list.

[Keyser soze]

In addition, there are many foreigners on the site, so this poll does not show anything!

I never vote on such site polls. This is your internal question and does not apply to foreigners. I read, interestingly, but I do not vote.

[rocket757]

Quote: Keyser Soze

I read, interestingly, but I do not vote.

for garlic, approvals!

[unhappy]

The triumph of democracy. The people expressed their will ...
Why is there no question in the bulletins - "Who lives well in Russia?"
Conscience has long been a shameful rudiment, I say again -
there was no justice, no, and never will be.

[Boris55]

Thus, it turned out that in general 49,4% support the amendments - less than half of the total number of Russians entitled to vote.

Interestingly, who said that everyone who didn’t come would definitely vote against? I’m thinking about the turn - they would vote FOR. But in general, to take into account in the scenario who is against who is not participating - this is simply a manipulation of not mature consciousness.

1. Congratulations to all of us on the transition to the next stage of development!
- in the 90s we had "slavery";
- from the beginning of the century - "feudalism";
- from today - "capitalism", I hope that we will overcome this phase in 5-10 years and start building socialism, and there we are not far from communism.

2. As the voting on this topic has shown, the "statistical error" that has flooded the VO site does not correspond to the reality of the ongoing processes in society. She is cut off from the people, does not understand him and does not express his opinion.

3. To everyone who did not vote.
Imagine that in some country there is a vote on the issue of interest to us:
- if less than 50% came to the polls, then to achieve our goal we need to work with the elite.
- if more than 50% came to the polls, then to achieve our goal we need to work with the people.

It’s easier for us to bend the elite than to convince the people. So do not remember the voters - you, whether you want it or not, are working for the interests of our enemies.

Once again, all with a victory !!!

[Pilot]

- from today - capitalism, I hope that we will overcome this phase in 5-10 years and begin building socialism.

Pour more! Give communism in 15 years!

[Boris55]

Quote: Pilot

Pour more!

About you in paragraph No. 2 including Sorry - do not pour.
And by the way, the confidence of the people in Putin remained at the same level.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Boris55

Thus, it turned out that in general 49,4% support the amendments - less than half of the total number of Russians entitled to vote.

Interestingly, who said that everyone who didn’t come would definitely vote against? I’m thinking about the turn - they would vote FOR.from

So, opponents, according to the same logic, generally a WANTED amount, already ... 11% of Russians.

The result is excellent!
Go Russia!

Gozman, Roizman, Albats, Shenderovich, etc. opposed the amendments to the Constitution, and Ivanov, Petrov, Sidorov - "For" the amendments

[Boris55]

Quote: Olgovich

The result is excellent!

I agree!
Only those who voted for or against should be considered. If you really want to stick somewhere those who did not vote, then it would be right to divide them in half.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Boris55

If you really want to stick somewhere those who did not vote, then it would be right to divide them in half.

None in half: all those who did not come IN ADVANCE approved the result (otherwise they would have voted "against"), but the result-FOR!

[AU Ivanov.]

That's for sure: silence is a sign of consent.

[tatra]

Gozman, Roizman, Albats, Shenderovich settled down well under Putin, he enriches them, gives them complete freedom of speech, and never represses any of them, unlike the "Ivanovs, Smirnovs, Sidorovs."

[Olgovich]

Quote: tatra

Gozman, Roizman, Albats, Shenderovich settled down well under Putin, he enriches them, gives them complete freedom of speech, and never represses any of them, unlike the "Ivanovs, Smirnovs, Sidorovs."

Russia, thank God, A FREE COUNTRY and everyone, chop on your forehead, EVERYONE has the right to express and express his opinion, incl. and the aforementioned CLOWNS, which no one needs.

Quote: tatra

, in contrast to the "Ivanovs, Smirnovs, Sidorovs".

And what sidorov ... they shot?

[Pilot]

Quote: Olgovich

The result is excellent!
Go Russia!

Gozman, Roizman, Albats, Shenderovich, etc. opposed the amendments to the Constitution, and Ivanov, Petrov, Sidorov - "For" the amendments

And how did Klishas vote with the Kinder Surprise? Or, for example, the State Duma’s deputy, Makarov (Klishas’s fellow tribesman with Kinder), who has driven Tanya in rainbow circles. How is it with your templates, doesn’t tear yet?

[Olgovich]

Quote: Pilot

And how did Klishas vote with the Kinder surprise? Or for example, the State Duma -ederast Makarov (a fellow tribesman of Klishas and Kinder), having driven Tanya into,rainbow circles. How is it with your templates, doesn’t tear yet?

Judging by so knowledge in a certain topic, then something is torn obviously not with me

[Vincent]

How is the site administration ready to confirm that all voters are Russian citizens who actually voted? And how much does it cost to drain personal data of survey participants?

[NDR-791]

This is all that the top of the article is not a vote, but generally "about nothing." Try it yourself. Check the box and go to the result. Then go back and put another check mark. and again to the result and back. so you can do endlessly. I tried all three options, it worked! So my three checkboxes will not spoil the general statistics. But how many votes "overtaken" so ??? Although it is true here to re-vote ... Why?

[Volodin]

Quote: NDR-791

Try it yourself. Check the box and go to the result. Then go back and put another check mark. and again to the result and back. so you can do endlessly. I tried all three options, it worked!

So you can only succeed in one case - if you log in from different accounts, than confirm that you have several of them. In all other cases, the user can vote on the site only once. Do not mislead people, please.

[NDR-791]

I am sitting in my workshop behind a single laptop. On the site since 2014. I have ONE account !!! For the gifted I can remove the process on the phone and put HERE !!! If it is very difficult for you to try what I have described above.

[Volodin]

Quote: NDR-791

For the gifted I can remove the process on the phone and put HERE !!!

Well, remove and lay out.

[tatra]

That is, you already think in advance that the results of the survey will not be the same as those of Putin’s CEC.

[AU Ivanov.]

It depends on where to interrogate. There are a lot of those on this site who were "not given"

[tralflot1832]

In terms of dynamics, people woke up to work. I glanced at my beloved VO, and here it was a shit!

[Karabin]

I don’t really like to watch a circus. Being a member is a bust.

[Junior Warrant Officer]

In our city of 220.000 people with the right to vote, in order to lure people to the polls, we held a prize draw.
Three apartments, seven cars in total and 10 more phones daily.
So I have a question, but who did they vote at all, the Electoral Commission or Sportloto?

[Karabin]

Quote: Junior Warrant Officer

in order to lure people to the plots, a lottery was held.

And we had to lure, there was a "request" from the chief. After the ballot, the employee must be checked in by whatsapp - voted.

[Junior Warrant Officer]

So we have something similar, the main turnout was with the involvement of the adminress:
The Black Sea Fleet and other state employees.

[Woodman]

Quote: Junior Warrant Officer

with the right to vote, in order to lure people to the polls, they held a prize draw.

And could only those who had already voted or those who simply "passed by" become participants?
By the way, did you win anything?

[bar]

Gentlemen, stop nagging. You need to lose with dignity

[tatra]

You need to win honestly.

[bar]

I don’t see anything dishonorable in the gain. The text of the amendments was publicly available, everyone could read and make a decision. Nobody drove off automatic machines to vote when they ticked, no one stood behind him. You’re just unlucky with the people again. Do not share the people of your depressive moods. And this is good, it means people want to live, and not whine like you.
Even here, in the sanctuary of all-propals, the results of the "vote" are not in your favor. So you have to lose with dignity.

[tatra]

Enough of lying and hypocrisy. These senseless, demagogic, previously unenforceable amendments, and what is already in the laws, is just a "smokescreen" for the main amendment - the imposition of Putin as the life ruler of Russia. It was not enough for him that he had already changed the Constitution in order to increase the presidential forty for himself by 2 years. Plus the slanderous accusations of those who are against this that they are "liberals, agents of the State Department, hohlotrolls", the forcible eviction of state employees to vote.

[bar]

Irina, get off already with an armored car. The electorate made its choice and dispersed. Nobody hears your incendiary speeches.
And as for your Oppskoy horror story about "life lines", then you yourself intimidated. I can argue with you, too, on the flick that the dictator you hate will not go for a new term. And all these "mnogohodovochki" only so that there is no mess in the country with the transfer of power and frenzied searches for a successor in the hope of quickly falling under him. "You have to work, not turn your head around"

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: bar

The text of the amendments was publicly available, everyone could read and make a decision.

It’s good to be someone who has a computer. But what about those who do not have it? Or do not know how to use?

Quote: bar

And this is good, it means people want to live

Everyone wants to live.

Quote: bar

not whine like you.

I will see how you whine when your spine is interrupted in an accident, or you go blind from the left "Napoleon".

[bar]

I will see how you whine when your spine is interrupted in an accident, or you go blind from the left "Napoleon".

Thanks for the wishes, you are very kind. I’m angry, so I won’t wish you the same in return.
Just explain, according to your logic, all all the crawlers on this site are disabled? And voted against because they do not have computers and they could not get acquainted with the text of the amendments? Do I understand correctly? If so, then I am ready to apologize for my harsh remarks addressed to them.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: bar

It's just not clear how constitutional amendments affect vision and the spine.

Absolutely nothing. This is the question of whining. You’ll simply be left out of your life, I’m telling you as a former employee of an invalid company, which was finally closed a year and a half ago. Few of them found a new job.

[bar]

It's just not clear how constitutional amendments affect vision and the spine.
Absolutely nothing.

Then why are your words in this discussion? Is it really difficult to understand that my words about "whining" did not refer to the disabled, whom I sympathize with, but to normal, more or less healthy (at least physically) members of our community?
Moreover, with a probability of 146% having computers?
Okay, let’s write off all your good wishes for impotent anger at the people who stupidly voted for the amendments. But still you need to lose with dignity, not stooping to that ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: bar

But still you need to lose with dignity, not stooping to that ...

That's it. All that I hear from your brethren is "whine, whiners, did not try to work", etc. That is why I gave the example of disabled people who want to work, but cannot do it in this regime. You should have seen the tears of the blind when they were "optimized", despite the fact that they worked for a pittance (less than the minimum wage with fucking norms, the slave owner would envy), and the Moscow bosses rolled in jeeps worth more than a dozen bucks. Vote for such stability. I hope you made it clear?

[bar]

Hope to make it clear?

As clear as the chaotic stream of consciousness can be. I have nothing to argue with that, and it's useless ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: bar

I have nothing to object to.

Not surprising.

[Okolotochny]

Irina, and tell me what is your choice in the USSR, at all levels of the Soviets? Were they honest? Did all the candidates appear on TV? Did you tell your programs, your vision of improving people's lives? Tell me with interest about these FARS I read.

[AU Ivanov.]

Did the Soviets have real power? Or were the generators of approval? The people did not choose the real rulers of the USSR, that is, the Politburo, they were there themselves in a narrow party circle ...

[Okolotochny]

Andrei, for real power is "ripening at the root." I'm even talking about the formal procedure for elections and voting.

[Wertgan]

In fairness, we did not vote for amendments, but for changes. There was a question about changes in the newsletter. It is small but the difference

[bar]

When there are no other arguments, a terminology discussion begins? The usual thing.

[Wertgan]

Arguments? What are you talking about? Do you want to start a discussion or is already discussing? And I'm not here not discussing, I pay attention to the wording of the bulletin. This wording explains why they voted in "package"

[igor1981]

Personally, I voted against, my wife did not go to vote.

[Victorio]

it's time to rename the military-political review

[AU Ivanov.]

War is the continuation of politics.

[cniza]

But politics began to go through the roof, I want about something else ...

[Bez 310]

Military Review ...
Tie it up!

[Tagan]

Quote: RUS96

Here is the database of who, where and how much voted. Not how (this is the secret of the vote), namely where, what time. Why not put this info in the personal account of the State Service. That you could go in and check.
Why they don’t do it, the answer is simple. Many people would be surprised at where and what time they voted, and many would be surprised at all that they went to vote.
So just ***, of course, no one wants to. I will repeat the thought, which I already said here
We do not take power from us then to give it back, especially in elections of some kind.
Including what kind of numbers you need, such and draw

Listen, do you have anything else to say about what happened?
At the expense of "exactly where" there are no problems at all. this is known in advance. You didn't know about it?))))
Do you suspect that your voice was used? Well, go check, not build theories.
"A citizen has the right to have unhindered access to the documented information (personal data) contained in the database about himself in the manner prescribed by the regulatory legal acts of the CEC of Russia (paragraph as amended by the CEC of Russia resolution of November 19, 2008 N 138 / 1017-5."

"Why don't they do that, the answer is simple" ...

Yeah, simple. Come up with some other Wishlist on your knees, and then wonder why you didn’t realize it right away.
Regulation on the State system of registration (accounting) of voters, referendum participants in the Russian Federation to catch up with you.

[Junior Warrant Officer]

I read now one of the comments with the words that you must be able to lose!
Undoubtedly, this is not even discussed!
Well, gentlemen, comrades, I hasten to congratulate all those who voted for amending the constitution, as you think, or rather want to think - you won! But do not forget that the one who laughs last laughs. Nothing absolutely will change for the better, absolutely nothing, but on the thumb it will be worse and worse.
Here is an elementary example, yesterday they raised tariffs for housing and communal services in the country, by an average of 4%, and I immediately ask you: - Well, sons, did your constitutional amendments help you?
As they say, we look forward to continuing, because in the autumn, mushrooms count!

[cniza]

Yeah, we’ll definitely count and it’s not necessary to drag the housing and communal services here, deal with your managers and you will be happy.

[Tagan]

Quote: rzzz

Quote: Banshee

could be distinguished just like that: stayed at home.

Considering also that interesting moment, that besides the voting itself, it is also a census of politically active population. The authorities have access to real results, statistics will remain, and in those areas where electronic ballot boxes with scanners there is also named information who voted for what. Also, this information is on those who voted electronically.
That is, there is virtually no secret ballot, but for what this information is collected, where and how much it will be stored, for what purposes and by whom it will be used - it is not yet clear, but it is already alarming.

Another "interesting point". You either do not know what you are writing about, or you are simply lying.

[silverwolf88]

In the past three years, the composition of participants has changed dramatically (well, as it were, a more liberal environment has become) this is felt in the comments ... and the nature of the articles ... there are noticeably more policies that are not related to the development of state armies, weapons, strategy and tactics and actually that which refers to the concept of military construction ... a history of development (from the principle of Epamenond and the tactics of Hannibal to battles in the city using modern weapons) ...
this suggests that the survey is certainly interesting (well, what kind of audience has gathered) but is not valid because the cut on the VO is very specific to itself ...

[cniza]

Not just changed, but radically changed, there was a lot of paid clique from Navalny, Khodorkovsky, and read the State Department ...

[Nikolaevich I]

It happened! Now dogs, according to the constitution, come first, and man comes second! And before, amendments to the constitution, dogs were better protected from humans than humans from dogs ... and now, really, (!) ... the biological hierarchy has changed! Now the constitution protects dogs along with legislation! While people are in no way protected from dogs!
The most contrary in these ,, amendments, "was that it was impossible to vote on the amendments separately! Vote for everything ,, chokh ,, ... and tady it will be for the regime. ,,right,, ! How so? After all, the initiators could have been mistaken; since different ,, contingent ,, hung around there! So give the people the right to decide for themselves what to vote for and what to object to! Since when did the importance of animals reach the constitutional level? That's really ... these elections - ,, bullshit ,,!

[Tagan]

Quote: Thrifty

Nazariy - "won" or rather, they screwed us up when they made a two-in-one sandwich - amendments to the constitution, and the question of self-zeroing of the terms of the reign to the supreme self-zero! If it were only about amendments to the constitution, the turnout would be, like the results, completely different! People are simply tired of eternal promises, of the lies of the authorities, of the impossibility of influencing the future of our country. So, the results were such that they are needed not by the people of the country, but by the Kremlin!

Oh, it seems to me that you are not concerned with the question of "self-zeroing". )))

[cniza]

Definitely it itches in another place ...

[Yurahip]

Amazing figures - Penza, Leninsky district, attention !!! 100% turnout !!!!!
Amazing near!

[Esaul]

Unfortunately, now it remains only to wait when this gang dies out naturally ...

[Tagan]

Quote: tatra

Stop lying and disingenuous already.
...
Plus the slanderous accusations of those who are against it that they are "liberals, agents of the State Department, hohlotrolls."

And what is wrong?)))
Well you sing in one tune. And in a strange way, duplicate the same thing. The list of friends voiced by you can hardly be called our well-wishers. And since you are on the same side with them, then get the appropriate definition and do not be surprised.

[cniza]

We invite our readers to talk about whether they (you) took part in the vote and to participate in our poll regarding which option (For or Against) of the amendments to the vote was chosen.

Necessarily and certainly voted - FOR, common sense won, and on V.O. about three equal compositions turned out ...

[rocket757]

Hi
The expected thing happened.
Because of what now cheese is bred, it is not clear.
The survey numbers on the site, this is nothing for the country, in general ... just reflect the preferences of the active participants, basically.

[cniza]

Greetings!
Website V.O. recently moved away from its original direction, a lot has become, as it were more correct to say, let's say so - very controversial.

[rocket757]

Politics pervades our lives, as it were .... though, we just feel the consequences of how upstairs or there is calm / calm. we climb there ourselves, although in truth, it is a storm in a glass, while in OUR GLASS, which simply will not be noticed at the top.
It is necessary for the people to somehow have fun ...

[cniza]

If this brings help to a person, then on health, everyone himself must understand what he is doing and why.

[rocket757]

All for the good of our people and country, there can be no discrepancies.

[cniza]

So it is, but some people think that their pocket is more expensive and closer ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

your pocket is more expensive and closer ..

Your pocket is closer, your own skin is dearer, it’s not so scary ... the main thing is where they FILL this pocket from and at the expense of whom they save their skin !!!

[cniza]

Here I am about the same, but I would like about a high life plan ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

Here I am about the same, but I would like about a high life plan ...

Read the book, plant a tree, grow descendants, ...... you can add - EXPLOSION, but that's how it will be.

[cniza]

Building a house is not bad either ...

[rocket757]

I'm even better. I do not aim at a feat, it has not grown together, the rest is already, it remains to put the descendants on their feet ... late "flowers" for me, work, worries, I still have to apply a lot.

[cniza]

Although very difficult, it is pleasant and joyful ...

[sniperino]

Quote: cniza

Website V.O. recently moved away from its original direction, a lot has become, as it were more correct to say, let's say so - very controversial.

If ... Insolent lies do not cause a desire to argue. Trolls want to troll.

[Evil 55]

Yeah ... Write the truth and immediately prepare the packs: gulls, socks, cigarettes and caramels ..

[cniza]

Seriously, who are you so ...

[rocket757]

He joked a joke ... otherwise, in a third of those living here, it is said / written not on rations, but on four boards, for example.

[cniza]

Something tells me that such jokes can bring problems to the joker himself.

[rocket757]

For ba / z \ ar must be answered. Then nonsense \ nonsense will begin to write less.
Wrote - and prove, provide the facts.

[cniza]

But with this just some tight ...

[rocket757]

When some are tight, they proudly snort and start ... miscellaneous, most often inadequate.

[cniza]

Not many people realize that it would be better to shut up.

[rocket757]

Oh, how difficult it is to teach, descendants for example, that SILENCE is GOLD!
But it is necessary.
It is even worse with adults, especially with those who were not explained / inspired in childhood!

[cniza]

It is useless for an adult, here they are buzzing. And with children you need to do a lot and be sure to ...

[rocket757]

The sooner the better ... but it really depends on the parents. I was convinced of this more than once.

[cniza]

That's for sure, better until 5 years old ...

[sniperino]

Quote: Evil 55

Yeah ... Write the truth and immediately prepare the packs: gulls, socks, cigarettes and caramels ..

For your own safety lying?

[Tagan]

Quote: silberwolf88

In the past three years, the composition of participants has changed dramatically (well, as it were, a more liberal environment has become) this is felt in the comments ... and the nature of the articles ... there are noticeably more policies that are not related to the development of state armies, weapons, strategy and tactics and actually that which refers to the concept of military construction ... a history of development (from the principle of Epamenond and the tactics of Hannibal to battles in the city using modern weapons) ...
this suggests that the survey is certainly interesting (well, what kind of audience has gathered) but is not valid because the cut on the VO is very specific to itself ...

I'll add a little. Currently, there is a dominance of liberotes and their accomplices not only in VO, since any popular resource is a convenient platform for the possibility of pouring slop, and with complete impunity. At the same time, while remaining almost in an absolute minority, nevertheless, it is possible to keep a strong noise background with small forces. "Small bug but stinking", like. In addition, some specimens have several profiles on the same VO. And these gentlemen sometimes get pierced. Plus professional multi-song singers. Those. the appearance of both mass and quantity is created. I may be wrong, but it seems that some authors are working on the order. So VO fell victim to these scoundrels.

[cniza]

You are not mistaken and not only you think so, here everything depends on money ...

[rocket757]

Another exacerbation, for a specific event ... consider it "normal" in our time.

[cniza]

Probably, you could say that ...

[rocket757]

You can say it, only all this is very tired. I want to live in a house where there are no inadequate ... they should be where it should be.

[cniza]

Here, here, so that you can safely exchange opinions, learn something useful ...

[rocket757]

Dreams, dreams ... we are not, the world is such as some people like to talk! But this is an excuse, nothing more.

[cniza]

Everyone can participate, but not everyone does it, and then says why they built not what I like, a very large part are just consumers ...

[rocket757]

This is true. WE ALL did not participate then, in the 90s, .... now basically, oh and oh, but we won’t get together anymore.

[cniza]

That's for sure, then we gave a specific blunder, but as they say - better later than never ...

[rocket757]

The departure of the state, the former, into oblivion does not mean that nothing can be revived !!! It’s not quite like that, but the very best, such a useful experience, should be used ... do not jump on the rake again and do not reinvent the wheel again, again!

[cniza]

And there are plenty of examples of this, and the constitution had to be corrected for a long time ...

[Hort]

those who did not participate would overwhelmingly vote against.
So, if we assume that the percentage of those who approve is true, we have a serious split in society.
What this can lead to, I think, is not worth explaining

[cniza]

And why do you decide for them, how would they vote?

[AU Ivanov.]

There is a proverb: silence is a sign of consent.

[rocket757]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

There is a proverb: silence is a sign of consent.

There is, we can say that this is historical, such a hint ... but alas, you won’t go to court with him.

[rocket757]

Quote: hort

those who did not participate would overwhelmingly vote against.

An assumption requiring evidence.

Quote: hort

we have a serious split in society.

So it was created a long time ago, about 30 years ago.

Quote: hort

What this can lead to, I think, is not worth explaining

our society is inert and there is, for now, the strength, a serious reason to stir it up, unite it and forward, to the wine depots. COMA!

[TAMBU]

oh yes ... and this chasm will only increase ...

[Tagan]

Quote: hort

those who did not participate would overwhelmingly vote against.
So, if we assume that the percentage of those who approve is true, we have a serious split in society.
What this can lead to, I think, is not worth explaining

Where does this information come from?

[BAI]

And where is the guarantee that the data who, as voted, will not go anywhere? Users are registered.

[U-58]

So what ? Yes to health. I did not try to hide what is against. My family is three against

[U-58]

Our family - 3 votes against

[AU Ivanov.]

My family is 5 per.

[Incvizitor]

Liberda squeaks everything: no one will vote for, they will deceive us again, but in fact, even here for the majority

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Incvizitor

even here for the majority

It was the same at the Yeltsin elections, at one time. Our "majority" is as trouble-free as a Kalashnikov assault rifle - what they say on the screen, they will vote for that.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Hello third column! Without you, the first would not have won. Well done!

[BAI]

Looked at the comments. And for what, in fact, all the cry and indignation? Is it history that they haven’t been taught, or does anyone think that Russia has its own development path that is different from the global one?
There was a criminal accumulation of initial capital. Just like others. Now, thieves need to legitimize their capital and instead of the primacy of breaking the law, introduce the primacy of compliance with the law so that no one encroaches on capital. Again, like everyone else. For the sake of this, you can also make some handouts. Because if you bring to a civil war, you can lose everything. Therefore, there will be no redistribution of property (plundered natural resources and state property). There will be no fundamental changes. There will be so-called stability. Whoever doesn’t like it can look for another planet to live.

[TAMBU]

To be honest, such a survey on the site, as for me, is much closer to the truth, while the resource is quite specific and the% "for" is not much, but it should be higher ...

[TAMBU]

LONG HAPPY LIFE
SUCH LONG HAPPY LIFE
NOW LONG LONG HAPPY LIFE
EVERYONE OF US
EVERYONE OF US ...

[Tagan]

Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver

Quote: Incvizitor

even here for the majority

It was the same at the Yeltsin elections, at one time. Our "majority" is as trouble-free as a Kalashnikov assault rifle - what they say on the screen, they will vote for that.

Are you probably one of those who are always against it? Don't flatter yourself.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Tagan

Are you probably one of those who are always against it? Don't flatter yourself

I remember an incident from school. The guy got a bad mark, but he walks away all proud and says, “But he did it himself!”
Are you one of those for whom it doesn’t matter that they don’t have the intelligence to make the right choice, it doesn’t matter what will ultimately happen to the country as a result of their choice, but what matters is that they are given the right to check this box? Let everything go to hell, but he does it himself (well, almost himself, the screen only gave a little hint on where to put a tick).

[hagen]

Quote: Boris ⁣Razor

Are you one of those people who don't care if they don't have the intelligence to make the right choice?

Where did you get the idea that your choice is correct? Maybe you were missing something?

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Hagen

Where did you get the idea that your choice is correct?

He is thoughtful and mutual. And the opposite side votes because it seems to her that the people on TV thought for her.

Quote: Hagen

Maybe you were missing something?

Hardly. Everyone knows something different. For example, objectively, I can think better than most. In high school, he took prizes in olympiads in mathematics and physics (in different years) up to the All-Russian level. Graduated from the best university in our country with honors. There he defended his Ph.D. In just over 2 years of work, I received the maximum position in my field of activity (6 steps). I started a business in the same field, 5 years have passed - the flight is normal. I think this may well mean that I can think better than most members of our society. Don't take this as bragging, it's just an argument.

[hagen]

Quote: Boris ⁣Razor

He is thoughtful and mutual. And the opposite side votes because it seems to her that the people on TV thought for her.

It seems so to you....

Quote: Boris ⁣Razor

For example, objectively, I can think better than most.

Better than most? Perhaps... But not the best.

Quote: Boris ⁣Razor

Graduated from the best university in our country with honors. There he defended his Ph.D.

The result is good, but not unique. I myself have been living with the candidate for 20 years, I have raised two gold medalists and a Ph.D. And, I’ll tell you that you don’t have to be a candidate to think, and a candidate’s degree does not guarantee against mistakes. Moreover, the decisions for which it was proposed to vote were developed by a group of candidates with doctors precisely in the proposed areas, in the presence of such a volume of preliminary data that you have never even dreamed of. Are you smarter than them too? I think that as a candidate, you are well aware that complex decisions require a strong information base. Be aware that you are not able to have the level of information that the group preparing the Presidential amendments operates. This means that the clarity of your ideas is disproportionate to the accuracy of the working group’s reasoning. Don't overestimate your capabilities.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Hagen

Better than most? Maybe...

So this was the thesis under discussion.

Quote: Hagen

the decisions for which it was proposed to vote were developed by a group of candidates with doctors

What matters here is what goal the compilers had in mind. The same Berezovsky as a technical doctor. was a science, does this mean that he always thought about the people?

[hagen]

Quote: Boris ⁣Razor

Berezovsky doctor of technical. sciences was

Not relevant But there is Khabrieva. What do you have against her?

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Hagen

there is Khabrieva.

Is this your "uncle from TV"?

[hagen]

Quote: Boris ⁣Razor

Is this your "uncle from TV"?

No. This is the aunt whom I trust more than you in legal matters.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Hagen

This is the aunt whom I trust more than you in legal matters.

It's funny how you confirmed both of my points, one after another. We have already discussed the majority. The second, if you remember, was about the fact that the majority does not think, but votes as they are told from the screen. And it doesn’t matter that your uncle is an aunt. It is important that you yourself do not think about the subject of voting, you choose someone who will do it for you. You chose this aunt. So let's deprive you of your voice by giving it to this aunt? After all, first something is born in the brain, and then it is expressed in the voice. It is logical that the brain that gives birth to a thought and the voice that expresses it belong to the same body. Here everything was born in the head of this aunt. And since she thinks for you, then let her vote. That would be fair, wouldn't it? Why this circus with democracy if you do not make your decisions yourself?

[trophy]

The question of the results was not even raised as such. Now we are waiting for the outcome in the form of answers to the questions: Why such a rush? and What were they up to?

[Tagan]

Quote: I think logically ... occasionally

In fact, a Banshee person is really quite intelligent. He published many competent articles on VO. Roman Skomorokhov his name is. Have you heard?

Yes, not stupid. But sometimes THIS will freeze...

[olimpiada15]

In the media I see only the % of those who voted for and against, I haven’t found the number of citizens who came to the elections anywhere yet. They're probably still trying to make sure the numbers add up. I was surprised by the small number of residents in the capital: 2,8 million out of more than 4 million voted. It seemed there were even more than 10 million Muscovites.

[Duck]

The website of each election commission has all the data, right down to the weekend. Look.

[Antokha]

7% of Russian citizens actively hate it and regret having anything to do with it. At the same time, they do not leave Russia for countries that they consider “correct” because of the fear of not being needed there, poor knowledge of the language of that country, laziness, lack of talent, and the fact that they objectively have a much better life here. These 7% are the fifth column. They are extremely politically active, they act as a single entity, controlled by the world elite. They don’t need to think and it’s harmful, they have cliches and manuals. They have a propaganda apparatus of the world media, including almost all Russian media. Using this device, they capture another 18% of the population and force them to vote the way they need. These 18% paradoxically combine a good attitude towards their own country with a lack of what Mikheev called sovereign thinking. They are dependent on the opinions of more assertive people, and such people always bring evil and destruction (for example, screaming in markets and in minibuses, while decent people convey their point of view calmly and reasonably, allowing the other side to think). The weak-willed 18% want to join the force, and join the aggressive liberal minority, which suffers from logical impotence and a pathological need to lie. However, for 18%, many of whom have higher education, this is not a hindrance at all. The rest of the people voted for the amendments.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Anton

7% of Russian citizens actively hate it and regret having anything to do with it. At the same time, they do not leave Russia for countries that they consider “correct” for fear of not being needed there

Right. Here he is a deputy, a member of the government, a top manager of a state corporation - but who is he there? But, nevertheless, they receive citizenship from there, just in case, and money is transferred there from the country, families are taken out.

Quote: Anton

These 7% are the fifth column.

Quote: Anton

they capture another 18% of the population and force them to vote the way they need.

Right. They forgot to say that the rest will be completed as needed. So it turns out not 25%, but from 76 to 110.

Quote: Anton

The rest of the people voted for the amendments

You have an error here. The rest are just against it

[Antokha]

According to data from the processing of 99,9% of voting protocols, 77,93% of Russians who voted were in favor of the amendments, and 21,26% were against. The overall turnout across the country was 67,97%.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Anton

77,93%

Here you go. What did I tell you

[Antokha]

I think you said that 75% voted against. Statistics say the opposite quite plainly. Almost 78% voted for the amendments, including me. Don't confuse black and white.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Anton

it seems to me

Whenever it seems, you can always scroll up the page and take a look. I said that in the end we get numbers from 76 to 110.

[UserGun]

Fools are taught and taught, but they continue to gnaw the cactus...

“Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov answered when the changes will take effect after voting on amendments to the Constitution, reports a Gazeta.Ru correspondent.

“This is a question for the immediate future of the country. Give the exact date impossible. And it is inappropriate to ask the question when Russians will feel these changes"- said Peskov."

They clearly told everyone, through the mouth of a nullified child, that vote don’t vote, you’ll still get it... well, you guessed it)))

[Tagan]

Quote: Trofim

The question of the results was not even raised as such. Now we are waiting for the outcome in the form of answers to the questions: Why such a rush? and What were they up to?

What is "rush"? By what criteria do you determine? Isn't the rush probably supposed to represent several years? Are you tired of repeating memorized phrases?

[Tagan]

Quote: olimpiada15

In the media I see only the % of those who voted for and against, I haven’t found the number of citizens who came to the elections anywhere yet. They're probably still trying to make sure the numbers add up. I was surprised by the small number of residents in the capital: 2,8 million out of more than 4 million voted. It seemed there were even more than 10 million Muscovites.

In Moscow there are more than seven million voters eligible to vote. In this case, one should also take into account the percentage of turnout, i.e. significantly less than seven million.

[Tagan]

Quote: UserGun

Fools are taught and taught, but they continue to gnaw the cactus...

“Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov answered when the changes will take effect after voting on amendments to the Constitution, reports a Gazeta.Ru correspondent.

“This is a question for the immediate future of the country. Give the exact date impossible. And it is inappropriate to ask the question when Russians will feel these changes"- said Peskov."

They clearly told everyone, through the mouth of a nullified child, that vote don’t vote, you’ll still get it... well, you guessed it)))

Stop with cacti already)))

[UserGun]

No, well, right away, after those who were gnawing on the cactus. in the hope of various profits from the benefactor, they immediately indexed the housing and communal services sector by 4% upward))) Why not increase it? They swallowed it and are asking for more)))))))

[ont65]

You cannot vote on the basic law as a package. Surely something will not suit someone. After all, the constitution was adopted in exactly the same way. And its legitimacy has already been completely drawn up by the election commission. There is a nuance in all this, since the basic law is questionable, then the entire legislative framework based on it is rubbish. In fact, the authorities are digging a hole for themselves by acting impudently.

[Sakmagon]

I voted "Yes!"
We won. And all these sobs on the site... I don’t even sympathize. I’m not even interested in how many of the site’s visitors noted their “choice” at the beginning of the article, not being our citizens and not having the right to do so
Hide in a corner and cry or something... And we move on.

[alone]

Quote: Sacmagon

And we move on.

Have a nice trip

[Sakmagon]

Thank you sincerely

[strelokmira]

I voted "Yes!"
We won

Yes, you won back in the 90s when the union collapsed, and now it’s like

[Sakmagon]

To write something like that about a person without knowing his affairs is a sign of stupidity...or a nervous breakdown

[convoy]

Quote: Sacmagon

I voted "Yes!"
We won. And all these sobs on the site... I don’t even sympathize. I’m not even interested in how many of the site’s visitors noted their “choice” at the beginning of the article, not being our citizens and not having the right to do so
Hide in a corner and cry or something... And we move on.

I'm from your trench too...The fight continues! My condolences to neo-liberals of all stripes.. Cry and take care of your throat, you will need it in the future! Well, for a new Constitution for a new Russia

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Sacmagon

We won

They wrote to you above. +4% to housing and communal services, instantly. Now the benz will grow up. And further down the list. If you wanted to become even poorer, you could simply quit your job and get a job as a volunteer in some pro-government charaga. Why was it necessary to fence the garden with these amendments? Stupid, really.

[Tagan]

Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver

Quote: Tagan

Are you probably one of those who are always against it? Don't flatter yourself

I remember an incident from school. The guy got a bad mark, but he walks away all proud and says, “But he did it himself!”
Are you one of those people who don’t care what will ultimately happen to the country as a result of their choice, but what matters is that they can make this choice? Let everything go to hell, but he does it himself (well, almost himself, the screen only gave a little hint on where to put a tick).

I am one of those who is very skeptical about the clamor of people who know nothing but crap about where they live. And, accordingly, I am one of those who make a choice without taking into account their hysterics and desires.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Tagan

I'm one of those

One of those trouble-free ones. There are women who cannot refuse anyone. They make many around them happy and are only a problem for themselves. When a man suffers from such reliability, he first of all becomes a problem for everyone around him, and pleases only a small group of unconventional comrades who take advantage of him.

[Tagan]

Quote: ont65

You cannot vote on the basic law as a package. Surely something will not suit someone. After all, the constitution was adopted in exactly the same way. And its legitimacy has already been completely drawn up by the election commission. There is a nuance in all this, since the basic law is questionable, then the entire legislative framework based on it is rubbish. In fact, the authorities are digging a hole for themselves by acting impudently.

Can you hear yourself? Voting exists to satisfy the majority. About the legitimacy drawn by the election commission - what are you talking about? Is it really about the fact that the two percent should have been the majority?)))

[UserGun]

Is this from the section “To spite my mother I’ll frostbite my ears”?

[ont65]

What about yourself? The majority for a separate article may be against it, but it passes as a package. You can’t be a little for or against when it comes to your own position, and this is exactly what the referendum provides for. Yeltsin's elections and voting are a hoax with shameless fraud. Crime in power does not provide any other option.

[convoy]

The neoliberals are in mourning..)))) And how they tore their throats! Well, now we are waiting for Western sanctions..
And they are becoming even more strict and that’s good..

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Yarik

we were all against it too. What surprised, obviously, elderly people stood at the exit from the site, mostly women, and discussed this farce. It was audible that from their words, everyone voted against because of scammers with pensions

I was at the polling station and didn’t see anything higher than the picture you depicted. Deputy head of government Yuri Borisov said that monetarism has brought nothing to the country except weakening potential. This mistake has been recognized at the very top, and therefore changing course is a matter of principle. What is behind these meager words can only be understood by those who started in the late 1980s and somehow reached the 2020s. Friend, they say about people like you - Looks at a book, but sees nothing.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: AS Ivanov.

Where, in St. Petersburg?

In St. Petersburg, in St. Petersburg.

Quote: AS Ivanov.

My yard was landscaped precisely in her reign

For those grandmothers that residents pay for a communal apartment, you can really blow up the lasers with a laser, as Valka suggested.

Dear...When will you stop raving? Forget about FREE APARTMENTS - you are already living in FREE PROVIDED housing.

Well, or rather, they can provide FREE housing if they introduce a tax on childlessness, a trade union tax, etc. Well, the salary will be reduced to the level of the USSR... You will have to save for a refrigerator or color TV for 5 years

[alone]

You can throw the TV aside. Save for 5 years, and then look at nightingale droppings after work? Oh, thanks

[Ryaruav]

Skomorokhov agitated for not going, so maybe he did it on purpose

[Brigadier]

Voting today for Putin’s “amendments” means voting:
- for our miserable life under the “caring” leadership of “Mr.” Putin,
- to approve of his henchmen, who are leading the country on the right course to final impoverishment,
- for a possible pension from 70 to 75 years old, which Putin can again present to us in honor of today’s “amendments.” And there, it may happen that 80 years of retirement will not be far away... for those who survive, of course... although Putin understands perfectly well that not all of us will live to see retirement under his sensitive “leadership” and the cannibalistic law on raising the retirement age...

Precisely because I don’t want to live today’s miserable life, which “Mr.” Putin and his henchmen have provided for us today, and I don’t want to retire at the age of 80 (if I live long enough...) I voted"VS" Putin's "amendments"! And proud of it!

“No pasaran!”, nullified “Mr.” Putin!!!

[Tagan]

Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver

Quote: Hagen

Where did you get the idea that your choice is correct?

He is thoughtful and mutual. And the opposite side votes because it seems to her that the people on TV thought for her.

Quote: Hagen

Maybe you were missing something?

Hardly. Everyone knows something different. For example, objectively, I can think better than most. In high school, he took prizes in olympiads in mathematics and physics (in different years) up to the All-Russian level. Graduated from the best university in our country with honors. There he defended his Ph.D. In just over 2 years of work, I received the maximum position in my field of activity (6 steps). I started a business in the same field, 5 years have passed - the flight is normal. I think this may well mean that I can think better than most members of our society. Don't take this as bragging, it's just an argument.

Your arguments sound more like some kind of pathology. Running and yelling at every corner that you are the smartest, and everyone around you is fools - this is just some kind of clinic. I agree, this is not given to everyone)))

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Tagan

Running and yelling at every corner that you are the smartest, and everyone around you is fools - it’s just some kind of clinic

There was not a word about the most. It was only about being smarter than most. It's normal - there are smart people and there are stupid people. This shouldn't bother you - it's the natural course of things. So, stupid people (who are the majority) should not have voting rights, in my opinion. After all, they voted for the drunkard Borya in the 90s, they voted for the legitimization of the current course, wrapped in amendments, within the framework of which such “funny” things have already happened:
- increase in retirement age;
- a significant reduction in free medicine (by the way, have you heard that starting next year it will be impossible for non-students to enroll in medical education on a budget?);
- introduction of quasi-tax payments from the population into the pockets of individuals (platon, parking, etc.);
- privatization of the largest state assets (did you miss the news about how the state lost a controlling stake in Rosneft during the pandemic?);
- systematic transfer of strategically important infrastructure into private hands (for example, in the field of housing and communal services - why would NATO fight with us in the future if, say, it can slowly take over the generating capacities on the territory of our country, and then simply turn off the light and heat in our homes?) .

etc. etc.

You wouldn’t trust a person ignorant of medicine to treat your children, would you? So why should stupid people be trusted with the fate of an entire country? If you wish the country well, you must voluntarily give up your right to vote. Or start thinking.

[Wizzzard]

Quote: AS Ivanov.

GDP has increased significantly

And on TV it looks the same as before - a meter in a cap.

[Tagan]

Quote: Brigadier

Voting today for Putin’s “amendments” means voting:
- for our miserable life under the “caring” leadership of “Mr.” Putin,
- to approve of his henchmen, who are leading the country on the right course to final impoverishment,
- for a possible pension from 70 to 75 years old, which Putin can again present to us in honor of today’s “amendments.” And there, it may happen that 80 years of retirement will not be far away... for those who survive, of course... although Putin understands perfectly well that not all of us will live to see retirement under his sensitive “leadership” and the cannibalistic law on raising the retirement age...

Precisely because I don’t want to live today’s miserable life, which “Mr.” Putin and his henchmen have provided for us today, and I don’t want to retire at the age of 80 (if I live long enough...) I voted"VS" Putin's "amendments"! And proud of it!

“No pasaran!”, nullified “Mr.” Putin!!!

What, the brigade is not following the plan to attack the fan? So what does Putin have to do with it?))) He even allows you to grind whatever you want. And you can even get away with insults (for now) ;)

[Hort]

Quote: rocket757

Quote: hort

those who did not participate would overwhelmingly vote against.

An assumption requiring evidence.

Quote: hort

we have a serious split in society.

So it was created a long time ago, about 30 years ago.

Quote: hort

What this can lead to, I think, is not worth explaining

our society is inert and there is, for now, the strength, a serious reason to stir it up, unite it and forward, to the wine depots. COMA!

the evidence is simple: very many, incl. and they didn’t go among my friends on principle, citing the fact that participation in the past elections itself was “agreement and clowning,” because Amendments to Article 136 have already been practically adopted.
Well, some still proceed from the postulate that their participation will not solve anything anyway. This is about the issue of inertia, by the way)

[reader65]

Those who, to one degree or another, have access to the corruption trough are drowning for the nullified. But people who work for a salary and see blatant social injustice are against or did not participate in this masquerade. They are the majority, but they are fragmented and have no administrative resources. Everything is like at the beginning of the 20th century. But when the next Tsushima happens, then revolutions will occur. But Tsushima will happen, because the technological gap from the leading armies of the world is enormous. 30 years on the Soviet legacy..... There is a limit to everything..

[Tagan]

Quote: reader65

Those who, to one degree or another, have access to the corruption trough are drowning for the nullified. But people who work for a salary and see blatant social injustice are against or did not participate in this masquerade. They are the majority, but they are fragmented and have no administrative resources. Everything is like at the beginning of the 20th century. But when the next Tsushima happens, then revolutions will occur. But Tsushima will happen, because the technological gap from the leading armies of the world is enormous. 30 years on the Soviet legacy..... There is a limit to everything..

Are you lying purely for yourself?)))
By the way, it happens that there is no shame in working for a salary.
I would also like a little more detail about the leading armies of the world, from which we have completely fallen behind.

[reader65]

Who said that it’s a shame to work for a salary? Vice versa. When EVERYONE works and receives a WAGE, then there will be a fair society. No bribes, kickbacks or other corruption.
About the countries from which the Russian Federation lags behind in technology, including weapons: G7 countries. Japan as well.

[Vadim237]

Please list these technologies in which Russia lags behind the G7 countries, including in the creation of weapons - can materials be processed, computers, programs, energy, electronics, 3D printing?

[Tagan]

Quote: reader65

About the countries from which the Russian Federation lags behind in technology, including weapons: G7 countries. Japan as well.

Very controversial statement.

[reader65]

Are you moving through space in a foreign car? Not? Although there is a fret.
Same with weapons. Soviet weapons are good weapons, but they have become outdated in 30-40 years. And there are very few new, high-tech weapons.
There really is something that has no analogues in the world... but this is only in the imagination of those who like to cut the military budget.

[DimanC]

This phrase makes me happy

Thus, it turned out that in general 49,4% supported the amendments - less than half of the total number of Russians with the right to vote.

. Why did the author of the note decide that the rest of them would definitely be against it? Did the sleeping person wake up or did the can open?

[ruivit1988]

I didn’t go to the polls and not because I didn’t have time. The thing is that I doubt that if I vote for or against something will change. They will choose whoever suits the ruling class, that is, the bourgeoisie. That’s why I haven’t gone to vote for many years now, and during the time that I haven’t gone to vote, nothing has changed; they elected the bourgeois president or bourgeois deputy that the bourgeois class needed. In general, I boycott the elections)))

[Tagan]

Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver

Quote: Tagan

I'm one of those

One of those trouble-free ones. There are women who cannot refuse anyone. They make many around them happy and are only a problem for themselves. When a man suffers from such reliability, he first of all becomes a problem for everyone around him, and pleases only a small group of unconventional comrades who take advantage of him.

Listen, you anxious specimen, whose brain has been affected by liberalism, calm down your sodomite imagination. From the comments it is quite obvious that you are a person suffering from mental disorders, and in a violent form. It's unclear how you were left unattended. Behave more modestly and quietly before the orderlies tie you up again.
Truncated?

[Antokha]

Quote: Tagan

From the comments it is quite obvious that you are a person suffering from mental disorders, and in a violent form.

And there are many of them here. What are they doing here? If they feel bad in “this” country, there is a way out, planes fly, embassies with homosexual flags are waiting for applications for permanent residence. Guys, read Janes and NYT, everything is there as you want, and don’t meddle with the Russians.

[Tagan]

Quote: Anton

Quote: Tagan

From the comments it is quite obvious that you are a person suffering from mental disorders, and in a violent form.

And there are many of them here. What are they doing here? If they feel bad in “this” country, there is a way out, planes fly, embassies with homosexual flags are waiting for applications for permanent residence. Guys, read Janes and NYT, everything is there as you want, and don’t meddle with the Russians.

The comrade apparently overheated. It happens. In comfortable conditions, it seems to be quiet and peaceful, but as soon as the sun warms the crown, it starts to get weird. They need to be treated.

[seacap]

This nonsense, written on the knee, with “declarations” of wishes for slaves, in order to cover the main and fundamentally important thing, which was “shamefully” not mentioned in any advertisement or interview, has nothing to do with the constitution, it is not a constitution at all, because .b. based on the one written behind the "puddle". Direct and undisguised manipulation, a demonstrative action to the slaves that everything will be as they said and nothing else. Kiriyenko said 70-75% 2 months ago, so so be it, but to imitate democracy, here’s this whole “circus” for you, the ancients said that only bread and circuses are enough for the plebs. A disgrace for such a country, with such a great history, the complete degradation of the ruling class, both moral and political, has already become completely stupefied by impunity and irresponsibility, arrogance and greed, the spiral of history has made its next “turn”, it seems.

[Yaro Polk]

Your poll is strange, the Russians voted, but all enemies from unfriendly countries can answer your poll.
Especially with 404 that and the NAZI-RUUSOPHOBIC Tribaltic... well, you understand, throw this survey in the trash, it does not correspond to reality at all.