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Modern Cossacks. Nostalgia for the past or the path to the future

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The topic of the Cossacks for Russia (and not only for it alone) is one of the always topical and hotly discussed issues, both in its historical aspect and in the light of the realities of today. We will not discuss the “affairs of bygone days”, the tragic and sometimes ambiguous centuries-old path of the Cossacks. Let’s talk better about what his position and prospects are now both in our country and abroad.


It’s worth starting here, perhaps, with the fact that the image of the modern Cossack in many of our compatriots evokes emotions, let's say, quite contradictory. Someone will say with admiration: “True defenders of the Fatherland!”, While someone, on the contrary, will contemptuously throw: “Mummers ...” In addition, some people are especially painful for the Cossacks to strive to participate more actively in such a thing as protection public order. Some Russians see here the prospect of "getting to know each other better" not only with batons, but also with Cossack whips, which, of course, they perceive without enthusiasm.

You should not even try to assert that the supporters of any one of the points of view are right around, and their opponents are captive to the deepest errors. To be honest: among the modern Cossacks, there are both those who sincerely and wholeheartedly wish to serve the Fatherland, while reviving the old and glorious traditions of their ancestors, as well as subjects who see the Cossacks as an opportunity to hang themselves with various bright regalia from head to toe and get for yourself any selfish benefits and preferences. It should be remembered: the Cossacks as such were never an ethnic group, but represented a special “service” estate. Representatives of his generations paid for the considerable privileges and privileges by the standards of the Russian Empire with the highest measure - blood shed on the battlefield, and lives given to the defense of the Fatherland.

And, by the way, the Cossacks performed police functions under the king-priest more than properly, as they say, not out of fear, but honestly, being the most reliable support of order in the state and the system that suited them well. So there is nothing new. I must say that the process, called today the revival of the Cossacks, has been going on in Russia at the official, state level since the beginning of the 90s of the last century. In 1994, the domestic government adopted a resolution on the concept of state policy regarding the Cossacks, at the same time a Council for Cossacks was created under the President of Russia.

The main milestones on this path were the adoption in 2005 of the federal law “On the Public Service of the Russian Cossacks” and “The Concept of State Policy of the Russian Federation with regard to the Russian Cossacks”, approved in 2008 by the then President of Russia Dmitry Medvedev. The strategy of the Russian Cossacks was approved in 2012 by the current head of state - Vladimir Putin.

What is the future of the modern Cossacks in the light of all these serious documents and decisions of national importance? The main thing that they can and should use their seething energy and ardent desire to bring real benefits to the motherland is, of course, performing real service in the ranks of the Russian Armed Forces, as well as other bodies designed to ensure the protection and defense of its borders, the protection of rights and freedoms of citizens of the country. The participation of the Cossacks in the protection of public order, the elimination of the consequences of natural and other disasters, emergency situations is welcome.

Environmental and environmental activities, yes, in fact, any occupations where strong trained people are willing to cheat on the interests of the state and, if necessary, stand up for their protection - these are the areas in which the Russian Cossacks are quite able to prove themselves, gaining legitimate respect and authority in the eyes of their compatriots. And, of course, the military-patriotic education of the younger generation. Here, by the way, success is beyond doubt. More than 20 Cossack cadet corpses, many school classes, military sports and patriotic clubs that grow the younger generation in Cossack traditions successfully operate in Russia.

Today, the Russian Cossacks are about 7 million people in the 10 registry troops with the prospect of the formation of another. There are Cossacks, united in more or less numerous organizations and outside of our country.

The fate of the “Cossacks” of neighboring Ukraine requires a completely separate discussion: there, alas, this movement, from a certain moment, was completely at the mercy of the most rabid nationalists, who completely perverted its essence and meaning and turned it into one of the means of fanning hatred of Russia.

In addition, there are Cossack organizations in Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Abkhazia.

Association of the Cossacks


Since 2017, the idea of ​​uniting all such communities with Russian roots in one whole, naturally, with a center in our country, has been floating in the air. True, it should be noted that the prospects for making such a decision (and it was planned to be implemented at the level of federal law) are extremely vague. After the events in the Crimea and the Donbass, during which it was the Cossacks (both local and volunteers who came to the aid of their brothers) who played a definite role, too many are trying to present the Russian Cossacks as yet another “instrument of Moscow’s aggressive policy.” One can imagine the barrage of negativity caused by the adoption of such a law at the international level.

No aggressors Russian Cossacks throughout its centuries-old stories, of course, were not. And they were the most reliable shield and support of their Fatherland. I want to believe that it will be in this role that they will continue to play.
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 2 July 2020 15: 06 New
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    And they were the most reliable shield and support of their Fatherland.

    The author would read the history of the Civil War.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 2 July 2020 15: 19 New
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      The Civil War is not an indicator: everyone had their own truths both among the Reds and the Whites, and it is not known which was better.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 2 July 2020 15: 23 New
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        You do not understand what I mean.
        This is not about white and red. This is about the Cossack states and about their tricks with the Germans.
        Denikin still forced them to share weapons received from the Germans.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 2 July 2020 15: 34 New
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          Krasnov twice a traitor: in fact betrayed the White movement and collaborated with the Nazis. Unlike Denikin.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 2 July 2020 16: 34 New
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            Of course, the Russian Cossacks were not any aggressors throughout their centuries-old history. And they were the most reliable shield and support of their Fatherland. I would like to believe that it will be in this role that they will continue to play.

            Only the Fatherland among the Cossacks was purely class and monarchical.

            Cossacks - the Cossack estate - were, are and will be convinced monarchists and tsarist guardsmen. This is the power fist of the Russian Orthodox Church oligarchy!
            And the revival of the Cossacks is the result of a bourgeois coup in the USSR in 1991 and subsequent clericalization in the country.

            REFERENCE
            Clericalism (late Lat. Clericalis “ecclesiastical”, from the Greek ϰλῆρο, “clergy, clergy”) is a political direction that seeks the primacy of the church and clergy in the social, political and cultural life of society. In a narrower, ecclesiological sense, is the organization of church life, which implies the rule of the clergy (professional clergy).
            The clergy and church-related officials act as carriers of clericalism..
            Clericalism uses for its purposes not only the church apparatusbut also various clerical organizations, clerical political parties, as well as those created with the close participation of the church trade union, youth, women's, cultural and other organizations, including KAZACHESTVO ..

            Clerical parties arose along with parliamentarism, although clericalism, as a worldview and political ideal, is incomparably ancient.
            1. svp67
              svp67 2 July 2020 18: 42 New
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              Quote: Tatiana
              Cossacks - the Cossack estate - were, are and will be convinced monarchists and tsarist guardsmen. This is the power fist of the Russian Orthodox Church oligarchy!
              And the revival of the Cossacks is the result of a bourgeois coup in the USSR in 1991 and subsequent clericalization in the country.

              Could you tell these Cossacks?
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 2 July 2020 20: 48 New
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                Quote: svp67
                Could you tell these Cossacks?

                Do you think I didn’t communicate with modern Cossacks? Communicated and how! They are people on their minds. It seems to be like their own people, but not quite their own. And some can definitely be called "mummers." In general, opportunists are still those - for the time being, for the time being!
                1. svp67
                  svp67 3 July 2020 05: 17 New
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                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Do you think I didn’t communicate with modern Cossacks?

                  So what? Which did you communicate with? With those who defended Lugansk, who fought as part of the "Cossack" battalions in Chechnya? Are they the same "mummers"?
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  In general, opportunists are still those - for the time being, for the time being!

                  Everything is checked by deeds and time. While the State does not give a damn about how it will continue, a deliberate policy is needed, in which multilateralism, and in fact anarchy in the Cossack world, will be complete.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 3 July 2020 09: 33 New
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                    Quote: svp67
                    So what? Which did you communicate with? With those who defended Lugansk, who fought as part of the "Cossack" battalions in Chechnya? Are they the same "mummers"?

                    No, of course, not with those who volunteered to defend the DLNR! These defenders of the Fatherland in the DLNR are Holy people, but not among the Cossacks, however.
                    I talked among others who, for example, raise Cossacks. The white guard from them carries a mile away, or even something worse.
                    Quote: svp67
                    Everything is checked by deeds and time. While the State does not give a damn about them, the way it will continue, a purposeful policy is needed, in which multilateralism, and in fact anarchy in the Cossack world will be complete.
                    What do you mean by “COSSACK WORLD”?
                    Unconditional obedience of women to men and faith and service first to God, and then to the Fatherland? What exactly?
                    For me personally, unconditional authorities do not exist. I think with my head.
                    Quote: svp67
                    Everything is checked by deeds and time.
                    Here I absolutely agree with you.
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 3 July 2020 09: 41 New
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                      Quote: Tatiana
                      These defenders of the Fatherland are holy people,

                      Already good...
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      What do you mean by the COSSACK WORLD?

                      For the whole WORLD, I do not swing it; I am all about the earthly, about the sinful. What do we have a purposeful state policy, now that we have a certain imbalance between the fact that we live in a capitalist country and we are still forming the same army, mainly on the principles of a socialist state, to use the Cossacks as a prepared reserve for the army, etc. and so on ... The problem is very serious. If you understand what is at stake here.
                2. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 3 July 2020 08: 08 New
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                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Do you think I didn’t communicate with modern Cossacks? Communicated and how! They are people on their minds. It seems to be like their own people, but not quite their own. And some can definitely be called "mummers." In general, opportunists are still those - for the time being, for the time being!

                  Where do the chieftains of the modern Cossacks come from? We have buckets in the Kuban, for example, the driver of the head of the municipality became my boss. At various memorable dates, the visiting chieftains from Krasnodar carry game such as the bloody Bolsheviks overthrew the good king, "we are not easy and remember." What the Cossacks do in our country, first of all, is participation in various protocol events. Although there are quite real things, for example, went to the mountains, searched for a lost child, along with troops and cops. They helped residents of cities and towns in eliminating the effects of flooding, i.e., the dreams brought by the river from the yards were thrown out, etc. Any Cossack has dnd certificates, on this basis they are engaged in the protection of public order, basically they go with the police and get paid for it, but there are very few of them. Ordinary Cossacks are mostly teachers, state employees and dependent small farmers, i.e. people are like people, like everywhere else. This is briefly.
                  1. 210ox
                    210ox 5 July 2020 20: 44 New
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                    The Caucasian department of the Kuban Army in most of its retired cops. There are very few public sector employees. And yes, they are mainly in the Cossack squad.
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 5 July 2020 23: 40 New
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                      Quote: 210ox
                      The Caucasian department of the Kuban Army in most of its retired cops. There are very few public sector employees. And yes, they are mainly in the Cossack squad.

                      The Labinsky department of the Kuban Army, apparently everything depends on the heads of the administration, we have all the teachers in the Cossacks, in the villages, and even school drivers. In the city, not so sure.
                3. astepanov
                  astepanov 3 July 2020 12: 04 New
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                  Tatiana, fiercely plus.
                  I must say that the process, called today the revival of the Cossacks, has been going on in Russia at the official, state level since the beginning of the 90s of the last century.
                  This is the worst thing: the combination of the nationalist shock-power bloc of the Cossacks on the one hand and clerics on the other. And this idea has not been abandoned so far.
                  I remember that at the beginning of the tenths in my native city, which had nothing to do with the Cossacks, they actively pushed for the idea of ​​creating a Cossack school with the main subjects of "Martial Arts" and "The Law of God." After several processions of mummers - with banners, trinkets, crumpled Cossack uniforms and drunk - the locals gathered a rally and threatened to set fire to the office of the executive branch. It was a matter of local elections, and this clothed riffraff quietly disappeared, and the question of the Cossack school was hushed up.
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 5 July 2020 23: 36 New
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                    Quote: astepanov
                    This is the worst thing: the combination of the nationalist shock-power bloc of the Cossacks on the one hand and clerics on the other. And this idea has not been abandoned so far.

                    The authorities have a desire to implement such a project, but there is no possibility. For one simple reason, whatever the authorities do, they do it through w ... pu. Although the attempts in this direction are visible, for example, when they give a letter or thanks I have to say “I serve the Kuban”, instead of “I serve Russia”, the entire leadership of the Kuban sing along with the anthem of Russia. Like things, but if we look back at the "Don Republic" with Krasnov, then ...
              2. Pivasik
                Pivasik 3 July 2020 12: 31 New
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                All sorts of Cossacks were ...
            2. Klingon
              Klingon 3 July 2020 00: 04 New
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              Now, it’s straight that infuriates how, from the hairy years, all of a sudden sharply pious became, and the further the stronger and the temple of the sun confirms this. Priests began to light bombs and rockets. For a long time, churchmen began to ban rock concerts, this is still a trifle, the further the worse it becomes .. soon the persecution of witches will begin, followed by burning. Religion - opium for the people
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 3 July 2020 00: 43 New
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                Quote: Klingon
                Now, it’s straight that infuriates how, from the hairy years, all of a sudden sharply pious became, and the further the stronger and the temple of the sun confirms this. Priests began to light bombs and rockets. For a long time, churchmen began to ban rock concerts, this is still a trifle, the further the worse it becomes .. soon the persecution of witches will begin, followed by burning. Religion - opium for the people

                The public regression of the Russian Federation is really evident. Soon, a monarchy will be introduced in the Russian Federation under the Harvard project. This is where Russia rolls! And priests at the same time in the first rows with their flattery and toadiness podsushtyayut those in power to establish a monarchy in our country.
                But the most opposite is the venality and affiliation of our officers from the society “Officers of Russia.” Each estate begins to pull and pulls the blanket over itself. There will not be unity in Russia.

                Position in society. Cossacks, philistinism. • Nov 28 2012 year


                In Ramenskoye, the first in the region Center for Cossack culture "Free Village" was opened. • 28 Oct. 2017 year
                1. Obliterator
                  Obliterator 4 July 2020 13: 11 New
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                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Soon, a monarchy will be introduced in the Russian Federation under the Harvard project. This is where Russia rolls! And the priests at the same time in 1 rows with their flattery and toadiness podsultury those in power to establish a monarchy in our country.

                  The monarchy itself is not so bad. She is not foreign to Russia at all. Another thing is that now there are no worthy candidates for founding a dynasty, and it is unlikely to be.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 4 July 2020 14: 51 New
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                    Quote: Obliterator
                    The monarchy itself is not so bad. She is not foreign to Russia at all. Another thing is that now there are no worthy candidates for founding a dynasty, and it is unlikely to be.
                    You simply do not see pitfalls from the establishment of a monarchy in Russia. Namely.

                    The Cossacks, as a force vehicle of the Russian Orthodox Church for the establishment of a monarchy in Russia, are divided, in general, into 2 types: 1) historically classical and 2) modernized.
                    Historically classic Cossacks he sees as his monarch in Russia primarily the descendants of the Romanov family living abroad, in other words, people from abroad, and in this regard it is supported by the West from there. Those. there is a tacit illegitimate interference of the West in the internal affairs of Russia.
                    First of all. However, the TRUE - historically legal - successors to the royal throne in Russia are no longer in the world at all (they simply are no longer alive), and all the remaining applicants, that is, are illegitimate, as they say "tenth of water on jelly."
                    And secondly. Maria Vladimirovna Romanova (Georgian by origin) has a conspiracy with Western countries that if the West recognizes her as the legitimate empress of Russia and guarantees her in Russia certain material and financial preferences, then she will transfer everything else to Russia to the West for external management .
                    Those. such a monarchy in Russia according to the Harvard project is just an illegitimate recognition of a Western puppet in Russia colonized and feudalized by the West. Do you think this is normal?
                    UPGRADED young Cossacks believe that a monarch can be chosen from among the representatives of the current government in the Russian Federation - for example, Putin - because he is Russian by nationality. But they don’t even think of the historical practice of forcibly overthrowing “above” and changing personal power! It may well turn out that the Russian nationalists chose ethnically Russian as the king in Russia, and then turned out to be the king of the Russophobe of non-Russian nationality.

                    And then what should the Russians and the Russian people do ?!
                    Suppose that a monarchist system has been introduced in the country - and now how can people get rid of such monarchs? Only through revolution and civil war !!!
                    I'm not talking about the fact that the country will break up into other small puppet states-principalities!
                    Do you think this is progress? No, this is a regression for Russia — the dream of a “collective West” on the Harvard project! And the clergy in this process are in the forefront!

                    Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna the restoration of the monarchy may become for Russia. June 1, 2016.
                    1. Obliterator
                      Obliterator 4 July 2020 21: 48 New
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                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Those. such a monarchy in Russia according to the Harvard project is just an illegitimate recognition of a Western puppet in Russia colonized and feudalized by the West. Do you think this is normal?
                      No, the modern Romanovs are not interesting to me in this regard. They have not had a relationship with Russia for a long time, and apparently they do not strive. I never heard about this lady, but now I will have an idea.
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Suppose that a monarchist system has been introduced in the country - and now how can people get rid of such monarchs? Only through revolution and civil war !!!

                      The monarchical system in the realities of our country in this regard will not differ from the republic. Our current leader has the fullness of power akin to an absolute monarchy, and he also will not leave until he wants to. And in neighboring Belarus, But father also takes his son with him everywhere, as if he wants to transfer his post to him by inheritance. Why not monarchs, unless they have titles.
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 4 July 2020 22: 56 New
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                        Quote: Obliterator
                        I never heard about this lady, but now I will have an idea.
                        It is a pity that you did not hear anything about this lady. The adventurer is still that!

                        Many of the top officials in our country live in DOUBLE and even TRIPLE standards. They cynically lie to the whole country, and, in fact, impose their version of history and convenient future for Russia on Russia.
                        In the beginning, “became famous” boundless love for the "royal family of Kirillovich" Mayor of Leningrad A. Sobchak, who invited the Nazi Vladimir Kirillovich to Leningrad. Then, with the permission of A. Sobchak, SS Obergruppenfuhrer Vladimir Kirillovich was buried with honors in the city of Leningrad. Let me remind you, IN THE CITY IN WHICH THE Fascists ORGANIZED THE BLOCKADE! During the blockade, over 630 thousand Leningraders died from hunger and deprivation. This figure was announced at the Nuremberg trials. According to other statistics, the figure can reach 1,5 million people. Only 3% of deaths were attributable to Nazi shelling and bombing, the remaining 97% died of starvation.
                        What a moral freak it is to arrange a funeral for the killer of the Soviet people in Leningrad!
                        Moscow Mayor Y. Luzhkov took "Kirillovich" in a representative mansion on the Sparrow Hills.
                        B. Yeltsin he also wanted to participate in the restoration of tsarism, ordered tableware with the monograms of the new “royal family”, but after thinking, he realized that he could lose power and refused to organize and hold this event.
                        MARCH 6, 2013 in USPENSKY CATHEDRAL OF MOSCOW KREMLIN THE CORONATION OF MARIA HAS BEEN VLADIMIRNYA! The action was led by the Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church Cyril with the "comrades".
                        Photo: 1. Coronation of Maria Vladimirovna in Moscow. Photos from the Internet.
                        2.In the palace of the Grand Masters of the Order of Malta on Via Condotti. His Eminence Highness the Prince - Grand Master of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, Fra Matthew Festing with the Romanov-Hohenzollerns. Photos from the Internet.

                        See in detail - Coronation of Maria Vladimirovna Romanova in Russia - https://proza.ru/2020/03/12/1981
                      2. Obliterator
                        Obliterator 4 July 2020 23: 33 New
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                        Quote: Tatiana
                        It is a pity that you did not hear anything about this lady. The adventurer is still that!
                        Yes, go outside, and ask random passers-by about it. Nobody will say anything about this to you at all. The public on the Romanovs has never given a damn about a century.
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Many of the top officials in our country live in DOUBLE and even TRIPLE standards. They cynically lie to the whole country, and, in fact, impose their version of history and convenient future for Russia on Russia.

                        That's never a surprise even. It is no secret that some representatives of the current elites are not against the idea of ​​joining a noble party, or even muddying their kind with a coat of arms, blackjack and whores. Only now to the nobles of the Russian Empire they like to China cancer in all respects. Therefore, with all my sympathy for the monarchical form of government, I do not want to restore the monarchy from the current authorities at all. She will be as vile and rootless as they themselves.
                      3. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 5 July 2020 15: 54 New
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                        Quote: Obliterator
                        Quote: Tatyana It is a pity that you have not heard anything about this lady. The adventurer is still that!
                        Yes, go outside, and ask random passers-by about it. Nobody will say anything about this to you at all. The public on the Romanovs has never given a damn about a century.
                        Who does not benefit, he does not know. And the Cossacks should know about it! The Russian Orthodox Church has a nostalgic led estate about a monarchical system.

                        Who benefits from lying about the so-called "royal family"? Why and who is lobbying for the approval of the house of the false Romanovs in Russia? Who in Russia liked a lady posing as “Tsarina” Maria (Romanova), who is actually a member of the Masonic Order, holder of the Order of Malta, daughter of the SS Obergruppenführer, subordinate to the Pope. The surname of this person is far from Romanova and sounds so - Hohenzollern.

                        Competent sources indicate that the official recognition of Maria Romanova and George Hohenzollern as the rightful heirs of the Russian Emperor Nicholas II, the ROTHILS ALREADY invested more than FIVE MILLION DOLLARS (!) (Data as of December 2, 2015). But for the Rodschilds, the game is worth the candle: in return, the Rothschilds receive a TOTAL REFUSAL FROM ALL DEBTS OF THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE, including Tsar’s Gold, which formed the basis of the world’s power of the Fed and, as a result, the United States.
                        See Interview with Fr. Dimitry Nenarokov, who was afraid to publish one Orthodox publication (part 4) Dec 2, 2015 at 6:14 - https://makaryshka.livejournal.com/418803.html

                        REFERENCE
                        At one time, Sovereign Nicholas II allocated 48,6 thousand tons of Russian gold, which was kept in Spain since the time of Alexander II as gold security for the creation of the World Financial Center. With these funds, private American banks founded an organization called the US FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM. Gold was allocated strictly “with a return” - for only 100 years. From each transaction concluded by the Fed, the Russian Empire (and then the USSR and the Russian Federation), a 4% profit should go.

                        Both sides seemed to have forgotten about this very unanimously, although at the Bretton Woods Conference in 1944 the most important regulatory documents were signed, which secured our right to 88,8% of the FRS ASSETS (!).

                        It was the Rothschilds in 1913, contrary to the will of Congress and the Senate, that literally forced Wilson to transfer to THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY the Federal Reserve System, created instead of the World Financial System and based on gold from Russia and China.

                        Thus, according to deposits, the Federal Reserve's share of 88,8% is still owned by Russia (the remaining 11,2% is owned by the Chinese).
                      4. atalef
                        atalef 5 July 2020 16: 04 New
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                        Tatyana, you scare me, well, did you manage to reset common sense with the vote?
                        Your whole post is nonsense, but this
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        At one time, Emperor Nicholas II singled out 48,6 KT Russian gold that has been kept in Spain since the time of Alexander II as gold security for the creation of the World Financial Center
                        - epic nonsense.
                        50.000 tons of gold?
                        Do not eat tomatoes at night and do not watch Ren TV
                      5. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 5 July 2020 16: 10 New
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                        As given in the reference book, I wrote it! In particular, precisely because of this tsarist gold - in order not to return the tsarist gold to Russia - in particular, the First World War was unleashed with the destruction of the Republic of Ingushetia, as such, during the revolution.
                      6. atalef
                        atalef 5 July 2020 16: 38 New
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                        Quote: Tatiana
                        As given in the reference book, I wrote it!

                        In the reference book?
                        Tatyana - do you believe everything that is written in the directory --- an alternative story for dummies?
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        In particular, precisely because of this tsarist gold - in order not to return the tsarist gold to Russia - in particular, 1 world war was unleashed with the destruction of the Republic of Ingushetia

                        Of course, on this occasion. especially considering that
                        Germany started the war against France, and Russia climbed there herself.
                        Well, all right, you have your own story.
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        with the destruction of RI, as such, during the revolution.

                        Here I agree with you - the gang of Lenin and his comrades-in-arms commies - the merchants of German intelligence.
                      7. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 5 July 2020 17: 00 New
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                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: Tatyana with the destruction of the Republic of Ingushetia, as such, during the revolution. Here I agree with you - the gang of Lenin and his comrades commies - German intelligence agents.

                        Not German intelligence agents, but British and US intelligence agents.
                        Germany, by agreement with the intelligence services of Great Britain - the United States only let the Russian revolutionaries - pro-Western social democrats - through its territory in sealed cars in the Republic of Ingushetia.
                      8. Obliterator
                        Obliterator 5 July 2020 18: 06 New
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                        Quote: atalef
                        Of course, on this occasion. especially considering that
                        Germany started the war against France, and Russia climbed there herself.
                        Well, all right, you have your own story.

                        Germany was the first to declare war on Russia, if that. However, in Russia they were aware of Schlieffen’s plan, and understood that they still had to fight. It would be foolish to wait for the Germans to defeat France and then attack Russia, as it happened later in World War II.
                        Quote: atalef
                        In the reference book?
                        Tatyana - do you believe everything that is written in the directory --- an alternative story for dummies?

                        Conspiracy therapists can write something like that. Since the Rothschilds were discussed, then the death of the royal family is credited with World Jewry, and in such details as if they themselves were there. Comment from YouTube, ofrography saved.
                        They needed children for the ritual. Do not look for human logic in this murder, it is not there. Evil for the sake of evil. Adults were immobilized with shots to their feet, and children were ritualized with ritual melee weapons throughout their bodies, each tens of times and their blood was pumped into containers. And then they cut off their heads still alive in front of their parents' eyes, so the Grand Duchess Anastasia had her whole cheek cut open: she pretended to be dead and jerked as hard as a living man began to cut off his head. Apparently, one of the last began to execute her. By the way, according to the testimonies of the working guards of the Ipatiev House, on the evening before the murder a team of six people arrived in the house: one main and five subordinates. They did not communicate in Yiddish with anyone except Yurovsky. The guards, who were supposed to start their shift that evening, were told not to come on duty. The blood of children was fried to ashes in the Koptyakovsky forest, dipped eggs there and the Hasidic tzaddiks and a team of killers ate. Not Yurovsky and the party leaders of Yekaterinburg, they were at the above sixes.
                        Quote: atalef
                        Lenin’s gang and its comrades commies - the meritorians of German intelligence.

                        About the devotees loudly said. Lenin and his gang treated Kaiser Germany no better than Russian Tsarism.
      2. Tatyana
        Tatyana 4 July 2020 15: 24 New
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        Andrey Fursov. Who is Maria Vladimirovna (Hohenzollern) Romanova. June 26, 2017.
        1. w70
          w70 9 July 2020 20: 21 New
          0
          Under Yeltsin, the ideology of anti-Bolshevism began to take shape, but then Putin came and turned everything inside out, the propaganda of Stalinism began. here it is!
  • Berber
    Berber 2 July 2020 16: 57 New
    +1
    I agree with you categorically. For him, Homeland is power, it was.
  • sazonov-1951
    sazonov-1951 3 July 2020 16: 33 New
    -6
    But could you distinguish between good, necessary and bad living not during the civil war, but now? This is very well described in the novel, Quiet Don, where everything seems clear to us, but we did not come to the defense of the Fatherland in 1991- That year and if there hadn’t been Putin, we would still have believed in the liberal values ​​of the Yeltsin government and its minions. The Cossack movement is very useful and, as a new entity, it needs to shake off all sorts of husks and become a real example of patriotism in Russia.
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 09: 53 New
    0
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    each had its own truth in both red and white

    the red oligarchs have kitsch, and the poor have education, land, medicine.
    White, what was the truth? Sell ​​Russia more expensive? Return the king? fulfillment of folk aspirations.)))
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 10: 03 New
      -1
      So how did the poor get the land? And how many monarchists were there among the representatives of the White movement?
      1. hhhhhhh
        hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 10: 06 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        So how did the poor get the land?
        Are you from the exam generation? The comedians distributed the land primarily to the poor. Honor the Earth Decree.
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        And how many monarchists were there among the representatives of the White movement?
        - So what did the nonmonarchists want? Give the peasants the land?))))
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 10: 13 New
          -1
          Land comedians were distributed, and food detachments squeezed the result of peasant labor. Wow gave the land! Collective farms with their forced and scanty pay. No wonder the Nazis did not dissolve them in the occupied territories - it is more convenient to rob the peasant. The peasant was waiting for the land ownership, free to dispose of it, but what in the end did he receive?
          1. hhhhhhh
            hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 10: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            The peasant was waiting for the land ownership, free to dispose of it, but what in the end did he receive?
            Generation of Unified State Examination ((((The earth was needed publicly, distributed Society by the number of editors.

            You still remember the Israeli Kibbutzim. Jews from the USSR organized them. Still working.
            The collective farm is progress, compared with the individual farmer. Generation of the exam about the division of labor tell?
            "Collective farms with their forced and miserable payment." - 30 years of capitalism in the Russian Federation and the peasants became rich without coercion and scanty pay.)))) Without tractors, houses of culture, daily buses, fertilizers, agronomists, schools, teachers, etc. what Soviet power gave the peasants in 1917
            When I was at school, in the 9-10 grade, children came to study from the village, they all had a motorcycle for which they earned their own money. Not a moped, but a motorcycle. I still do not have a city bike.))))) This is about poverty in the village.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 10: 55 New
              -1
              Unified State Exam, Yeah, 1979 graduation from school. Then there were still old people who remembered all these sticks for workdays and they said things, well, exactly the opposite of official soviet propaganda. Somehow they had much more faith than what was written in textbooks and that dregs that poured into our ears from every iron.
              1. hhhhhhh
                hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 11: 49 New
                0
                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                they said things, well, the exact opposite of official soviet propaganda.
                No one spoke about the horses living under the Tsar? About hunger every couple of years. About redemption payments until 1905. About fists-world-eaters who issued microloans. Everyone remembers the USSR, but no one remembers staying under Nikolai the Bloody.
                "than what was written in the textbooks and the turbidity that poured into our ears from each iron." - the turbidity from Salzhenitsin is the true truth.)))) The turbidity from the west is true.

                Believe muti without knowing the truth, pay and repent.
                1. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 12: 12 New
                  -4
                  One fact is enough for me, that in my small Motherland, under Nicholas (who destroyed an order of magnitude fewer people than the Bolsheviks and which of them bloody still need to be seen) there was not a single peasant uprising. But for 10 post-revolutionary years there were already 4 of them.
                  1. hhhhhhh
                    hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 12: 25 New
                    +2
                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    One fact is enough for me, that in my small Motherland, under Nicholas (who destroyed an order of magnitude fewer people than the Bolsheviks and which of them bloody still need to be seen) there was not a single peasant uprising. But for 10 post-revolutionary years there were already 4 of them.
                    You act on the principle that if I have not seen this then this has never happened. It is in what province in 1905 the noble houses were not burned?
                    History lesson. The revolution ended only in 1929. Rebellions raised fists, which were not allowed to exploit the peasants and rob them. Correctly, the Bolsheviks relocated them to neighboring regions so as not to interfere with their work.
                    Enough for you to retell the magazine Spark of the times of Glasnost, this is a vile lie.
                  2. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 12: 37 New
                    -3
                    The uprisings were raised by the peasants, who brought the Bolsheviks to their politics. Those are the middle peasants. Bread from the peasant for no reason was taken away not by fists, but by Bolshevik food detachments, they were scooped up under a whisk, condemning them to starvation. And this is not the “Spark”, eyewitnesses testified. And the elder sister of the grandfather, at one time, told what methods the collective farms created and what the peasants raped from these collective farms. More precisely - how the peasants raped. Remove the already scooped noodles from the ears.
                  3. hhhhhhh
                    hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 12: 49 New
                    +2
                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    The uprisings were raised by the peasants, whom the Bolsheviks brought about with their policies.
                    Lies from the Twinkle.
                    “More precisely, they raped them like peasants.” - The Bolsheviks didn’t have to give the peasants a letter, you would have grazed geese today and wouldn’t lie here.
                    The peasants have made progress.
                    You do not like the Bolsheviks fished from their brains Bolshevik education and Bolshevik vaccinations and die in childhood.
                    Perestroika scoops are the most stupid. Was I like you stupid 10 years ago, believed in nonsense?
                  4. hhhhhhh
                    hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 13: 17 New
                    +2
                    If the Bolshevik collective farms won’t win the war, they would starve to death.
                  5. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 13: 20 New
                    -3
                    And if there were strong farms and agricultural cooperatives voluntarily created by the peasants, then the Lendlizovskaya stew would be unnecessary.
                  6. hhhhhhh
                    hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 13: 25 New
                    +1
                    I haven’t observed 30 years of farms.))) Only agricultural holdings. Where are the farmers who feed Russia ?????? Stop repeating perestroika nonsense. It did not work now, and even more so then.

                    Fists would give grain to the front. For gold, like Americans stew. And we’d go to the front.))))
                  7. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 13: 37 New
                    -2
                    Before the revolution, private owners fed the country. And fed to the First World Army. Not for gold - for rubles. Even if for gold, let the farmer get it, not overseas. But farmers still have it: the cousin has 47 hectares of potatoes.
                  8. hhhhhhh
                    hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 13: 43 New
                    +2
                    )))) Is it possible to prove something to the perestroika scoop ??
                    They said that a private plant is better than a state one, it will still operate despite all private plants closed in Russia.
                    “And fed to the First World Army.” - if fed so well, why did Russia lose? Nikolai the Bloody denied because of the hunger riot in St. Petersburg.
                    47 hectares is not a farmer, but a gardener.)))
                  9. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 13: 52 New
                    -2
                    The hunger riot in Petrograd (not St. Petersburg) was brilliantly organized by those who forced Nikolai Slyunyavy to abdicate. Food convoys were detained on their way to the capital. In the remaining provinces of the Republic of Ingushetia there was not even the slightest hint of food shortages. Despite the war. Private trader? In many sectors, for example, the production of consumer goods, agriculture, and trade, the clumsy state system is much more efficient. Remember, at least, a scoop, with its eternal deficits of elementary goods and their quality. And yes, Elon Musk is a private trader. Which surpassed NASA, the state organization.
                  10. hhhhhhh
                    hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 13: 58 New
                    +1
                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    their quality.
                    legends tell us about the "poor" quality of Soviet goods; now neither private owners nor state officials have such a thing.

                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    In the remaining provinces of the Republic of Ingushetia there was not even the slightest hint of food shortages.
                    The peasants voluntarily gave the grain or the surplus-appraisal (the invention of the king)? They took them away, and those who refused refused to shoot them.
                    Do your relatives not remember Stolypin's military courts? Who could remember - shot, the family went around the world.
                    The awkward private medicine in the 21st century turned out to be a complete fiction and ditched a bunch of people.
                    It’s ridiculous to argue with you 10 years ago.)))))
                  11. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 14: 05 New
                    -1
                    Firstly: under the tsar's priest, the peasants did not squeeze out food, but bought the state at solid prices, and not so low. This suited many peasants - their head didn’t have a headache about selling products. According to the verdicts of the military field courts under Stolypin, less than a thousand people were executed. How many how many people did the Bolsheviks exterminate in court and out of court?
                  12. hhhhhhh
                    hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 14: 08 New
                    +2
                    Reread the story. The Soviet government taught you to read, under the king you would be a swineherd.
                    About the royal surplus appraisal under Nicholas the Bloody.
                    About the Stolypin Military Courts and Nicolae Bloody.
                    Read more. And do not read the Twinkle.
                  13. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 4 July 2020 14: 35 New
                    -1
                    I know who all 4 of my great-grandfathers were - none of them were swineherd. The axes were forged, the flour was ground, the trains were driven. And it would not hurt you, besides the soviet propaganda, to get acquainted with the real state of affairs - there are plenty of sources now.
                  14. hhhhhhh
                    hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 16: 16 New
                    +1
                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    And it wouldn’t hurt you
                    Why to me in the plural ???

                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    I know who all 4 of my great-grandfathers were -
                    They lived under Soviet rule. They were dying for Soviet power at the front.


                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    And it would not hurt you, besides the soviet propaganda, to get acquainted with the real state of affairs - there are plenty of sources now.
                    - In our opinion, the kibbutz collective farm feeds the Russian Federation very efficiently, including.

                    The Bolsheviks defeated the European Union, and the Tsar alone could not Germany with Austria.
                    The king drove the peasants to die for Korea, then for the straits. How many peasants did the bloody Nikolai kill on the fronts of 1905 and the First World War?
                    How many Russian peasants were killed by civilized Europeans during World War II?
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 2 July 2020 15: 25 New
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    Quote: Pereira
    The author would read the history of the Civil War.

    The author would read the constitution. As encouraging everyone there. If chew, then in this strange thing, which is, as it were, the basic law of the country, complete equality is declared. And even a Cossack, even a Kalmyk, even a Yakut, can go to serve / work anywhere. At least in the army, even in law enforcement, even in ecologists. But precisely as citizens of the Russian Federation. And if they go there like a Cossack or a Bashkir ... In general, it’s them, and those who are promoting such ideas, they need to be planted. For trying to undermine the constitutional order. Yeah.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 2 July 2020 15: 33 New
      10
      Bashkir need not be afraid. And the Tatar does not need. Undermining the constitutional system is the privilege of the Russians.
      And not all of the Cossacks position themselves as Russians. Many lived near the Sumerians. Therefore, they too can. Plus nostalgia for 1905.
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 2 July 2020 17: 30 New
        +4
        Quote: Pereira
        Undermining the constitutional system is the privilege of the Russians.

        And more Jews. Considering that under the tsar the Jews were kept within the Pale of Settlement and periodically staged pogroms, their attitude towards the state-forming people is clearly not positive.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 2 July 2020 21: 06 New
          -2
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          Given that under the tsar the Jews were kept within the Pale of Settlement and periodically staged pogroms

          I know the Pale of Settlement, and there was one pogrom, somewhere in the beginning of the 20th century in Ukraine, I no longer heard.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 2 July 2020 22: 50 New
            +3
            More in Chisinau and Kutaisi. But the Russians are to blame anyway.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 3 July 2020 10: 42 New
              0
              Quote: Pereira
              More in Chisinau and Kutaisi. But the Russians are to blame anyway.

              Here you correctly noted, we are all the same.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 2 July 2020 17: 37 New
        -1
        Quote: Pereira
        And not all of the Cossacks position themselves as Russians. Many lived near the Sumerians. Therefore, they too can.

        There are even more immigrants from Little Russia, remember how and from whom Potemkin Prince of Tauride created the Kuban Cossacks. My mother-in-law from the village of Bryukhovetskaya has sex with Ukrainian surnames.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 2 July 2020 21: 02 New
          +4
          I'm more about Don. I met these mummers more.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 3 July 2020 10: 43 New
            0
            Quote: Pereira
            I'm more about Don. I met these mummers more.

            I understood that I’ve never been there, and often visited my mother-in-law in the Kuban.
      3. Alanart
        Alanart 2 July 2020 21: 49 New
        0
        And what was there in 1905? How many Cossacks trampled down there compared with how many foot soldiers with honest Ryazan physiognomy shot?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 3 July 2020 10: 44 New
          +2
          Quote: Alanart
          And what was there in 1905? How many Cossacks trampled down there compared with how many foot soldiers with honest Ryazan physiognomy shot?

          There were reasons for this, and they were justified, but little is written about it.
      4. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 3 July 2020 08: 13 New
        -1
        Quote: Pereira
        Bashkir need not be afraid. And the Tatar does not need. Undermining the constitutional system is the privilege of the Russians.

        The oligarchy and those who serve it have no nationality. More precisely, the oligarchy uses the national question to its advantage.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 2 July 2020 15: 47 New
    +1
    Yes, it’s not at that time to be in the city center .... It cleans thoughts like a whip on the back ... And so many new things arise in my head right away ...
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 2 July 2020 16: 29 New
      +8
      Then the nobility also needs to * turn back and forth *.
      The nobles, more than any Cossacks, served the RUSSIAN-RUSSIAN EMPIRE-SOVIET UNION-RUSSIA. If these with stripes are about Cossack nationality, then the Buryats and Bashkirs and Kalmyks are also former Cossacks. Even before the heap, add a nationality-nobleman, with graduation in titles, nationality - a merchant, and so on.
      Cossacks were created by emperor tsars. Before that, they were wild people who lived with the slave trade and robbery.
      They - Cossacks, forced to serve RUSSIA.
      And how did these tricksters with stripes fought in the Civil War? After all, they just like the Nazis fought for their selfish interests.
      Today, they have already completely forgiven themselves for this, completely forgotten, and are beginning to demand special rights and autonomy.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 2 July 2020 16: 58 New
        +5
        Quote: Vasily50
        The nobles, more than any Cossacks, served the RUSSIAN-RUSSIAN EMPIRE-SOVIET UNION-RUSSIA.

        Exactly before the adoption of Peter III "Manifesto on the Liberty of the Nobility", which was aggravated by Catherine II, who signed the "Diploma on the rights, liberties and advantages of the noble Russian nobility."
        Since then, the service for the nobleman was not obligatory, and little by little the nobles from the support of the empire degenerated into parasites.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 2 July 2020 17: 45 New
        -3
        Quote: Vasily50
        And how did these tricksters with stripes fought in the Civil War?

        It is better to leave the topic of the Civil War, in that war many fought each other, against each other, brother against brother, not only Cossacks. My paternal grandfather’s brothers are no exception, but I loved them all the same, for me they are Russian people. The maternal grandfather of the father was the sub-leader of the Transbaikal Cossacks; during the Civil War, he did not fight for either white or red. That's why she and the Civil War.
      3. Tatyana
        Tatyana 3 July 2020 01: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: Vasily50
        Cossacks were created by emperor tsars. Before that, they were wild people who lived with the slave trade and robbery.

        Absolutely right! Lived by robberies and the slave trade. Families, as such, they did not have at that time. For intimate services, Turkish women were captured by one slave for 3-4-5 Cossacks. They did not need children born from them, because they only distracted the mother from attention to themselves. Usually they simply drowned the newborn, especially since it was not known which of them became the father of the child.
        This was later, when the Russian tsars allocated land plots to the Cossacks in exchange for their service, the women began to be valued by men, since it was necessary to monitor the land and economy when the Cossacks themselves went on campaigns. And still, the Cossacks in those days were still far from Orthodoxy. They continued to live according to their own rules and procedures.
      4. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 3 July 2020 12: 50 New
        -4
        claim special rights and autonomy.

        Give the facts of the "requirements of the autonomy." Otherwise, you are lying.
  • To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 2 July 2020 16: 29 New
    -1
    Federal Law of 05.12.2005 N 154-FZ (as amended on 02.08.2019) "On the Public Service of the Russian Cossacks"
    RUSSIAN FEDERATION

    THE FEDERAL LAW

    ABOUT THE STATE SERVICE OF THE RUSSIAN COSSACKS
    https://legalacts.ru/doc/federalnyi-zakon-ot-05122005-n-154-fz-o/
  • Bar1
    Bar1 2 July 2020 17: 53 New
    -14
    It should be remembered: the Cossacks as such were never an ethnic group, but represented a special “service” estate.


    Before repeating the ideological stamps of the modern OI, it is necessary to recall who the Cossacks are and where they came from?
    Is there an analogue of the Cossacks in other countries? Of course not. Perhaps only the Janissaries in Atomania, but these are actually the same Cossacks - Slavs with the same military traditions, only Muslims.

    Cossacks originate from the Novgorodians-Ushkuyniki and from warriors-wanderers who had their own cities and states. Ushkuynsky formed their own Vyatka state.
    Cossacks subsequently had their own names Don, Grebensky and Tersky, formerly called Cherkasy. Subsequently, the Romanovs reassigned them to the Circassians, depriving the Cherkassy of their glorious past.
    In the so-called Mordovia, Cossack troops were always located therefore the cities of mothers are called so-the Horde and others.
    In the vast expanses of Asia, the Cossacks were called Kalmyks. From them went the Semirechensky Cossacks and the Cossacks of Lake Borovoe.



    Zaporizhzhya Sich stretched from the mouth of the Danube to the Wild Field, the Haidamaks along with the victorious Bogdan Khmelnitsky took 20 Polish cities and reached Warsaw itself, E2 was destroyed and resettled on the banks of the Kuban.
    In the Far East in Dauria / Daria there has always been a Far Eastern Cossacks.
    On the Danube and the Balkans, the Gaiduks have always fought for their people, these are also Cossacks with the same military traditions.
    This is only minimal knowledge about the Cossack people.
    OI hides the past of the peoples, and therefore invents the Circassians, who are actually the small mountain people of the Circassians.
    The huge possessions of the Kalmyk hordes were renamed the Kazakh hordes and these lands were given to completely different Mongol-like peoples torus and leather and the Kirghiz and Kazakh zhuzes / hundreds are now called.
    Cossacks fought at sea, there is an image on the flag of a large sea ship with Cossacks, which is completely incomprehensible where the chronological scale can be inserted. You can probably recall the people of the Ubykhs, who were again given to the Adygs by the Romanovs.



    It is worth mentioning the huge phenomenon of Great Tartary, which was located, just on all these Cossack lands.
    The religion of our ancestors of the Cossacks was not Christian, even before the revolution, the rituals of the Russian peasantry and Cossacks were different from the canonical Christian ones. The Romanovs called this ritualism-belief. Well, in fact, they were Sun worshipers.
    Therefore, Sala Maleikum is a Prayer / Praise to the Sun.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 2 July 2020 19: 03 New
      -1
      Quote: Bar1
      Cossacks fought at sea, there is an image on the flag of a large sea ship with Cossacks

      Well, and how not to remember, since childhood they sang a song -

      From the island to the rod
      To the expanse of the river wave
      Painted come up
      Stenki Razin shuttle.

      On the front Stenka Razin
      With a young princess sitting -
      Celebrates a new wedding,
      Himself hilarious and intoxicated.
    2. Sergey M. Karasev
      Sergey M. Karasev 2 July 2020 19: 17 New
      +2
      In the so-called Mordovia, Cossack troops were always located therefore the cities of mothers are called so-the Horde and others.

      And why is this Mordovia, the so-called? Are there not Mordovians living there? And there are no cities called "Horde" in Mordovia, and there are no villages either. And the Cossacks were not there! However, in the Kasimov khanate between Ryazan and Mordovia the military estate was called "Cossacks".
      1. Bar1
        Bar1 2 July 2020 20: 12 New
        -11
        Quote: Sergey Karasev
        In the so-called Mordovia, Cossack troops were always located therefore the cities of mothers are called so-the Horde and others.

        And why is this Mordovia, the so-called? Are there not Mordovians living there? And there are no cities called "Horde" in Mordovia, and there are no villages either. And the Cossacks were not there! However, in the Kasimov khanate between Ryazan and Mordovia the military estate was called "Cossacks".


        this people really does not like being called Mordovians, it can be seen that this is an artificial name. The very name MORDVA resembles a horde, and even the city of Ardatov is not far.
        1. Sergey M. Karasev
          Sergey M. Karasev 3 July 2020 02: 14 New
          +1
          But to call them Erzya is also incorrect, since, besides the subethnos of Erzya, there is also moksha, but all this is Mordovian. Yes, and I did not notice that they do not like such a name. Outside of Mordovia, they call themselves Mordovians, not Erzya and Moksha.
          1. Bar1
            Bar1 3 July 2020 08: 31 New
            -7
            Quote: Sergey Karasev
            But to call them Erzya is also incorrect, since, besides the subethnos of Erzya, there is also moksha, but all this is Mordovian. Yes, and I did not notice that they do not like such a name. Outside of Mordovia, they call themselves Mordovians, not Erzya and Moksha.

            it is very strange, the peoples of Erzya and Moksha, and their land is Mordovians, what kind of stupidity? It does not happen, as the people call it, and the earth, it is clear that there is something not clean.
            Regarding Mordovians, If you did not notice, then others notice.
            1. Bar1
              Bar1 3 July 2020 08: 44 New
              -6
              according to Herberstein, this people are Mordovians or idolaters or Mohammedans, it is not said about the people themselves, i.e. the name of the Mordovians is divorced from these Finnish peoples. Most likely the Romanovs brought these Finns to the lands of the Cossacks afterwards.
            2. Sergey M. Karasev
              Sergey M. Karasev 3 July 2020 15: 42 New
              +1
              Their land is Mordovia, and Mordva is the collective name of two closely related peoples.
              I can give you an example. There are two closely related Caucasian peoples, Chechens and Ingush. And together they are VINAHI. it just happened historically that at one time their national republic was called the Chechen-Ingush (and not Vainakh) ASSR. The Mordovian ASSR could also be called the Erzya-Mokshan ASSR, but it was called the Mordovian ASSR. That is why in each case it turned out the way it turned out, I can’t say. Maybe someone will clarify.
              1. Bar1
                Bar1 3 July 2020 16: 59 New
                -9
                Quote: Sergey Karasev
                Their land is Mordovia, and Mordva is the collective name of two closely related peoples.
                I can give you an example. There are two closely related Caucasian peoples, Chechens and Ingush. And together they are VINAHI. it just happened historically that at one time their national republic was called the Chechen-Ingush (and not Vainakh) ASSR. The Mordovian ASSR could also be called the Erzya-Mokshan ASSR, but it was called the Mordovian ASSR. That is why in each case it turned out the way it turned out, I can’t say. Maybe someone will clarify.


                Mordovia is the name of the land on which these two Finnish peoples are located. Most likely the differences between the peoples are such as between the Russians and Ukrainians. on old maps, Mordovia had long been and hid, as usual with the Romanovs, some OTHER PEOPLE, and the peoples settled here simply began to be called Mordvinians for no reason.
                I already wrote that the Romanovs replaced the name Cherkasy with the Circassians, Kalmyks, white Caucasians, Kalmyks of the Mongoloids, Cossacks into Kazakh hordes, then Zhuzes, and the latter were replaced by Jewish Bolsheviks, continuing the Romanov line to destroy the Cossacks. This is the connection between tsarism and Bolshevism. I recall that the Bolsheviks, for example, also changed the Russian northern names, for example, the Pechersk / Murmansk Sea to the Barents Sea, why did the Bolsheviks need this? In order to diminish the significance of the Russian people in history.
      2. Tamparu
        Tamparu 3 July 2020 17: 21 New
        0
        In the so-called Mordovia, Cossack troops were always located therefore the cities of mothers are called so-the Horde and others.

        And why is this Mordovia, the so-called? Are there not Mordovians living there? And there are no cities called "Horde" in Mordovia, and there are no villages either. And the Cossacks were not there! However, in the Kasimov khanate between Ryazan and Mordovia the military estate was called "Cossacks".

        No, dear. In Mordovia live mainly Erzya and Moksha. Whoever invented the name, no one will say for sure. My version ... due to the fact that Erzya, probably Mokshan, has big cheeks, they stick out .. "Cheeky" such, "Mordaty". I don’t know about the "Horde", but the servicemen, and even more so, the Cossacks, lived there. My paternal grandfather lived in the village of Murza (Kelvyadni), my father was born there. Although by name all the ends lead to the Rostov region, Odessa region. Something like that, Dear .. hi
    3. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 2 July 2020 21: 46 New
      +4
      Fomenko and Nosovsky this is not the case with your relatives
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 2 July 2020 18: 25 New
    -8
    Quote: Pereira
    The author would read the history of the Civil War.
    On January 24.01.1919, XNUMX, on the initiative of the Chairman of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee, Yakov Mikhailovich Sverdlov (Yankel Movshevich Aptekman), the secret directive of the Central Committee of the RCP (B.) “On the extermination of the Cossacks” was adopted.
    1. convoy
      convoy 2 July 2020 18: 30 New
      -6
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Quote: Pereira
      The author would read the history of the Civil War.
      On January 24.01.1919, XNUMX, on the initiative of the Chairman of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee, Yakov Mikhailovich Sverdlov (Yankel Movshevich Aptekman), the secret directive of the Central Committee of the RCP (B.) “On the extermination of the Cossacks” was adopted.

      Disguised and now you don’t understand who and what ... Thanks Vlad! Now they kick you back)))
      1. muham
        muham 3 July 2020 08: 24 New
        0
        Quote: Konvoi
        Disguised and now you don’t understand who and what.
        And you would have them for some water and clean
  • svp67
    svp67 2 July 2020 18: 38 New
    -1
    Quote: Pereira
    The author would read the history of the Civil War.

    And what is wrong in this OUR story?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 2 July 2020 18: 59 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      And what is wrong in this OUR story?

      That's right, from history, as well as from a song, words cannot be discarded. It’s just that you need to know the story, no matter how I would be, but he is our story.
  • yushch
    yushch 2 July 2020 19: 38 New
    -2
    And what’s wrong? At that time, the Cossacks served as border guards in peacetime, and in the military elite cavalry. Therefore, they had preferences from the authorities.
    1. svp67
      svp67 3 July 2020 20: 31 New
      -1
      Quote: yushch
      At that time, the Cossacks served as border guards in peacetime.

      As well as the functions of internal troops, or as they now call the Russian Guard. That is, they had plenty of duties to the sovereign and the state
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 3 July 2020 10: 16 New
    0
    My great-grandfather was a Cossack chieftain; there were four sons, two for white, two for red. He cursed them all and drove them out. After the civil war, my grandfather survived in the Second Horse Army. The father went through the whole Patriotic war in four reconnaissance orders and 12 medals. He retired with the rank of colonel. No one better than Sholokhov will ever describe this tragedy, not only of the Cossacks, but of our entire People.
  • 1976AG
    1976AG 3 July 2020 10: 47 New
    0
    And who are the Cossacks? Yes, exactly the same people as everyone else, with their own advantages and disadvantages. And then what is there to discuss? Just to scratch your tongues ...
  • w70
    w70 9 July 2020 20: 18 New
    0
    Yes, it would be worth reading the memoirs "The Great Don Army"
  • parusnik
    parusnik 2 July 2020 15: 10 New
    32
    I offer the author the following series of articles: Modern nobility. Nostalgia for the past or the path to the future. Modern merchants. Nostalgia for the past or the path to the future. The modern peasantry. Nostalgia for the past or the path to the future and end Modern estates. Nostalgia for the past or the path to the future.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 2 July 2020 15: 18 New
      +3
      true Cossacks now - Jewish settlers on the west bank of the Jordan - half-war life, resettlement from scratch, status of occupant of a foreign land
      "Trump to help you," Cossacks
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 2 July 2020 15: 23 New
        +1
        Palestinian Cossacks?
      2. Berber
        Berber 2 July 2020 17: 00 New
        +2
        It is not paradoxical, but noticed very true. Likely taken as an example.
    2. Phil77
      Phil77 2 July 2020 15: 18 New
      +7
      Let me add! The modern proletariat. Nostalgia for the past or the path to the future.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 2 July 2020 15: 20 New
        +8
        Not everything is listed, you need to add the clergy, philistines ...
        1. novel66
          novel66 2 July 2020 17: 00 New
          +3
          all sorts of foreigners ..
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 2 July 2020 17: 47 New
          -1
          .for my minusers it is actual ::::::::::::::::
          ..modern aviators..ostalgia for the past ... or flight to the future.
          modern naval aviation on aircraft carriers ... and naval aviators. same
          a question without humor -------- WHO HOW TO DESIGN ROCKETS AND APPLIANCES TECHNIQUE .. will there ever be a replacement of aviation (in particular sea and aircraft carrier) with missiles
        3. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 3 July 2020 12: 53 New
          -1
          This is called a study of the history of their homeland, only without the ideological cliches that the Bolsheviks were so famous for. So cross out all your phantasmagoric opponents from the story. What will you stay with? The history of the country already from the whole of 1917?
    3. TAMBU
      TAMBU 2 July 2020 15: 20 New
      +5
      the kulaks are still possible ...)
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 2 July 2020 17: 48 New
        +2
        merchants can be divided into - harvesters, bagworms, athenes, shuttles, etc., huckster. taxi drivers-traders of vodka and not vodka.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 2 July 2020 17: 53 New
        -8
        Quote: TAMBU
        the kulaks are still possible.

        Well, the Bolsheviks came up with this estate. Here you can also include the "rural poor", horseless and low-land. Ooh! which they just didn’t invent, but all this has long gone into oblivion, as well as the Cossacks. There were descendants who could not be fastened by any side to their ancestors, except for memory.
        1. TAMBU
          TAMBU 2 July 2020 18: 47 New
          +4
          I’ll leave it here ... do not blame me, it is very curious as for me and practically "in the subject"

          Word and deed of the sovereign! Foreign words in the Cathedral Code!

          Tsar and Grand Duke of All Russia, Prince of Tauride, Prince of Chersonesos, Grand Duke of Siberia and other, other, other. Your servants are vile and unworthy, the Zemstvo of Murinsky, the Zemstvos of Tyumen and Wellington, the Zemstvo of Siam, Belgorod, Moscow and other, beaten with a brow!

          With this petition of petition, we, your servants, are in a hurry to report: to your Council Code, sovereign, people are evil, German impostors and thieves, or some other, obscure, vague and satanic words.
          "The Russian Federation, united by a thousand-year history, preserving the memory of ancestors who transmitted ideals and faith in God ..."
          The clerks, tyunas, and solicitors with chitniks, and tenants, and children of the boyar’s words, were unable to comprehend these words. We feel: for antiquity and honor this ancient code, but words are incomprehensible.

          Therefore, your sneaky and black people worry fervently and purely.

          Enlighten us, the great sovereign, which God gave the truth to grandfathers and great-grandfathers?

          In the forests of the Vyatichi, Slovenian, Drevlyansk and Radimichi people thought of Perun, Veles and Dazhdbog. In the Baltic forests, Yumma, Ukko and Pahoyarvi were mentioned. On the Lithuanian borderland they think about Dyaus, Perkunas and some Pisyus. Service Tatars and Kalmyks Tengri commemorate the ancestors of this. your Jews - Yahweh, Astarte, Baal. And many other gods filthy without number, and all from the old days of great-grandfather.

          And would you explain to the sovereign, and to your clerk Vladislav Surk, would you explain to your servants what to do and in which direction to look at Russia?

          The Greek word “ideals” was peretolmachit to us by the populace and this zemstvo was pleasantly and pleasantly green.

          And you, honest father, would have ordered the sovereign farmers to put a great fortress in the fortress, and you would not have fled from places to cities, or your faithful nobility will become impoverished at all and you will not be able to live and serve honestly in Russia. True, this came from our ancestors, and so we would.

          And you would have ordered, sovereign, to forbid your little people: princes, duma boyars, clerks, judges and solicitors, and even more so - governors - abroad of the fatherland, relatives of Ukraine, it is free to run back and forth to German and Busurman lands. With whom they say the word there, with whom they make friendships and raise the cup - God alone is the message. One thing is clear, it’s not long before the betrayal.

          And the Germans would not be allowed to serve in the English, Shkot, German, and other servants without holy baptism, and after they will be baptized and assigned to service, they would not be let out of the country. And then great-grandfathers bequeathed to us, and now it would be so.

          And you would forbid, sovereign, the titles and ranks named by German names.

          The great-grandfather’s Duma is, as God is holy, this is good to Velma!
          And in your Duma some speaker sat down, yes the vice-speaker, yes the deputies!
          If there were boyars in the Duma, there would be dumas and clerks, and the people would not be worried, sovereign!

          And would be Prince Mishka Mishutkin, Volodimerov’s son, butler.
          And to Prince Seryozheka, Kozheed’s son, - a great governor.
          And to Prince Onton the light of Vaine is the bedding.
          And the boyar Kirieshke is a kennel.
          And to the boyar Mitka Peskov - a herald.
          And you, the sovereign, would reassign evil ministries into order houses, and ministers into order judges!
          And if it were the German name Rosguard, as in old times, the Moscow archers, the vague three-letter FSB - by secret order, and the police - by little balls (judges, road, orders).

          So you, the great sovereign, ordered to write in the Council Code, so in the old days it was supposed to be so!
          And then you will make the country silence, peace and well-being, the little people joy, and the army fun.

          I wrote down this note by the will of the zemstvo, the unworthy and vile servant of Klimka Zhuk, son of Alexandrov.

          I beat with a brow, great sovereign, allow your servant to continue living in Russia.
        2. Valerikk
          Valerikk 2 July 2020 23: 22 New
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Well, the Bolsheviks came up with this estate.

          Not. Yes, and this class is not at all.
    4. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 2 July 2020 16: 34 New
      +5
      Quote: parusnik
      I offer the author the following series of articles: Modern nobility. Nostalgia for the past or the path to the future. Modern merchants. Nostalgia for the past or the path to the future.

      good
      “The modern peasantry. Nostalgia for the Soviet past or the path to the future serfdom ”
      “Modern estates. Nostalgia on the table of grades or the path to the monarchy "
      lol
    5. novel66
      novel66 2 July 2020 16: 59 New
      +1
      smart idea, but you need to start with the serfs
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 2 July 2020 18: 02 New
        -2
        Quote: novel xnumx
        smart idea, but you need to start with the serfs

        It may be a gorgeous thought, but you come to the village, and there are some old people, like this peasantry, and they have already been enslaved for so long.
    6. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 2 July 2020 17: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      I offer the author the following series of articles: Modern nobility. Nostalgia for the past or the path to the future. Modern merchants. Nostalgia for the past or the path to the future. The modern peasantry. Nostalgia for the past or the path to the future and end Modern estates. Nostalgia for the past or the path to the future.
      it is impossible not to recall that all estates were divided into privileged
      and taxable. The difference in their rights and their responsibilities is enormous. The exact opposite possibilities.
      Likely to title ----The difference in the classes. Nostalgia for the past or the path to the future... .....
      Something like this. ....
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 2 July 2020 15: 16 New
    16
    For starters, you really need to separate the Cossacks from all the anointed ones, who bought the title of uniform, and the swearing fictitious tsatskas! I myself am from the Cossack family, from the Cossack village, but on a par with these clowns who have spoiled the very concept of the Cossacks, I won’t stand in life! I saw at the gatherings of the Don Army in the ranks of Cossacks in Cossack uniforms and blacks, and Turks, and Chinese! It’s a shame, I’m not a nationalist, but there was a fact, a group of Jews with paisse, and in Cossack uniform! So, it is necessary to talk about Cossacks only when they remove the whole shushara from this movement and lifestyle, remove the mummers, remove fictitious pseudo-Cossacks who don’t know which side of the horse to approach, and what a Cossack saber is, then we can talk about problems. And now there’s nothing to talk about, for there are many Cossacks, and in the case, there are fewer real Cossacks than sterlets in the Don!
    1. polar fox
      polar fox 2 July 2020 16: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: Thrifty
      And now there’s nothing to talk about, for there are many Cossacks, and in the case, there are fewer real Cossacks than sterlets in the Don!

      sorry can not be spat ... it is.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 2 July 2020 16: 39 New
      +7
      Quote: Thrifty
      To begin with, you really need to separate the Cossacks from all the clinging ones, who bought the title of uniform, and the swearing fictitious tsatskas!

      yes It's right. It’s time to decide: the Cossacks are an ethnic group or a certain profession demanded by time.
      As for the fictitious tsatsk, in my opinion, it is time in Russia to put things in order with the awards, not only among the Cossacks, but also in different departments.
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 3 July 2020 13: 01 New
        -2
        As for the fictitious “tsatsk”

        Just don't overdo it. The tradition of wearing the rewards of their ancestors is an old one. I'm not talking about fake ones, but about real ones.
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 2 July 2020 17: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: Thrifty
      It’s a shame, I’m not a nationalist, but there was a fact, a group of Jews with paisse, and in Cossack uniform!

      Go ahead, friends, go ahead, the time has come!
      The eve of the end celebrates the people.
      Jewish cossacks rebelled
      There was a coup in Birobidzhan!

      We got together in a Cossack circle secretly,
      Observing the laws of all the great unrest.
      We covered Yermolka with our hats
      And to the saddles we stuck the Talmud.

      No one went to the position of chieftain -
      After all, the chieftain will be the first to jump into battle!
      Then they elected Leva Iserman,
      He took money for it, my goodness!

      And we chose Kat as Yesaul
      For fortitude and a huge nose.
      He didn’t let us blow our nose into the banner
      And answer a question with a question.

      That battle struck, but what can we do?
      Around the enemies. What if they are stronger?
      We deployed our ranks boldly
      And the black horses spurred horses.
      ©
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 2 July 2020 18: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: Thrifty
      For starters, you really need to separate the Cossacks from all the anointed ones, who bought the title of uniform, and the swearing fictitious tsatskas!

      And how can you separate them now, if for a hundred years no documents have been preserved. But what if the grandfather was a Cossack, and his father was an engineer at a factory, and his son generally lived in Moscow, and now his grandson says that he is a Cossack. In our father’s where my father lived, the village was divided into two parts by a river, on one under the king lived the Cossacks, and prospectors and hunters lived on the other. Already in the 60s, everything was mixed up, and there were no prospectors with the Cossacks, but now almost all of them enrolled in the Cossacks in the former Cossack half, well, everyone screams that he is a descendant of the Cossacks, although their fathers came to me from all over the Union.
      1. Alexander S.
        Alexander S. 2 July 2020 19: 58 New
        +2
        A Cossack is rather a way of life and thinking. That is why, in spite of my blood, I will not call myself a Cossack in my life. This is a service, a military estate .. but in fact .. who is there only .... 7 million ... nda
    5. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 3 July 2020 12: 58 New
      +2
      For starters, you really need to separate the Cossacks from all the anointed ones, who bought the title of uniform, and the swearing fictitious tsatskas! I myself am from the Cossack family, from the Cossack village, but on a par with these clowns who have spoiled the very concept of the Cossacks, I won’t stand in life!

      Krasaucheg)) Himself of these, fully support. And then let them in the comments (like Tatyana) and express their Phi.
  • Clear
    Clear 2 July 2020 15: 17 New
    +2
    Of course, the Russian Cossacks were not any aggressors throughout their centuries-old history.
    As far as I remember, the Cossacks were the only unique peasant military formation in the world. And in the laws of the Russian Empire it was called - the Troop Estate - “Cossack estate”, “Cossack state”, “Cossack rank”, and “Cossack population” (sometimes in the text of the same law).
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 2 July 2020 16: 43 New
      +1
      Well what are you. Cossacks were among the Poles and the Tatars and the Turks and the Austrians and the Chinese, and if you believe the Ukrainians, they were the French. They put a hand in the construction of the kingdom - France, and then built up aviation for the French (this is about Orly Airport). Reading is funny and funny.
      These .... as mercenaries were hired for money to any * hto had a gold reserve *.
      Cossacks showed their attitude towards RUSSIAN people in the Civil War and during the GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR.
      It is very interesting how the vast area that the Bolsheviks originally planned as * Cossack * turned into Kazakhstan.
    2. novel66
      novel66 2 July 2020 17: 02 New
      +1
      very funny ... and the conquest of Siberia by the Cossacks is not very aggression?
  • Gato
    Gato 2 July 2020 15: 17 New
    15
    And will self-government and partial exemption from taxes be given in exchange for service to the Cossacks? Will the service be on contract or for life? In general, how can feudal structures be projected onto a capitalist state?
  • Clear
    Clear 2 July 2020 15: 20 New
    -11
    and someone, on the contrary, contemptuously casts: "The mummers ..."
    If a Cossack, in uniform, is neat and ironed, then he looks beautiful. And to whom does he interfere?
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 2 July 2020 15: 33 New
      +5
      You see: a Cossack, this is a person who served and, preferably, in hot spots. Otherwise, he has no right to wear a uniform. Same thing with the rewards. A Cossack is a person who, if necessary, leaves his occupation and comes to the aid of the country. If these two conditions are met, then the Cossack does not bother anyone, but on the contrary, causes respect.
      1. Clear
        Clear 2 July 2020 15: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        If these two conditions are met, then the Cossack does not bother anyone, but on the contrary, causes respect.

        Sure. Only from the side, how do you know that the conditions are met?
        1. Alf
          Alf 2 July 2020 19: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: Clear
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          If these two conditions are met, then the Cossack does not bother anyone, but on the contrary, causes respect.

          Sure. Only from the side, how do you know that the conditions are met?

          Enough to come up and ask, Where did you fight?
          1. Clear
            Clear 2 July 2020 23: 07 New
            +3
            Quote: Alf
            Quote: Clear
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            If these two conditions are met, then the Cossack does not bother anyone, but on the contrary, causes respect.

            Sure. Only from the side, how do you know that the conditions are met?

            Enough to come up and ask, Where did you fight?

            Oh, so you don’t know everything. Usually these mummers invited to school to speak in front of students at a patriotic hour talk about “their military exploits” in such a way that the guys are delighted, and in our case, tears well up in surprise. And, as they sing, the hounds crying
            I know what to ask. But, after all, he stands next to the military commissar, how not to believe !?
            1. Alf
              Alf 2 July 2020 23: 15 New
              0
              Quote: Clear
              and in our eyes, tears well in surprise.

              So maybe immediately ask, loudly so?
              1. Clear
                Clear 2 July 2020 23: 18 New
                +3
                Quote: Alf
                Quote: Clear
                and in our eyes, tears well in surprise.

                So maybe immediately ask, loudly so?

                What a clumsy man you are, so he is Loud and answers us.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 2 July 2020 23: 21 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Clear
                  Quote: Alf
                  Quote: Clear
                  and in our eyes, tears well in surprise.

                  So maybe immediately ask, loudly so?

                  What a clumsy man you are, so he is Loud and answers us.

                  I mean, the number of the unit, the name of the commander, the scene of action .. yes, at least the model of a personal weapon, its caliber ... It would be a skill, it would be possible to omit it in front of everyone ...
                  1. Clear
                    Clear 2 July 2020 23: 24 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Alf
                    I mean, the number of the unit, the name of the commander, the scene of action .. yes, at least the model of a personal weapon, its caliber ...

                    Who are you talking to now?
                    Just that explained, he talks about the war for an hour!
                    1. Alf
                      Alf 3 July 2020 18: 57 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Clear
                      Quote: Alf
                      I mean, the number of the unit, the name of the commander, the scene of action .. yes, at least the model of a personal weapon, its caliber ...

                      Who are you talking to now?
                      Just that explained, he talks about the war for an hour!

                      With you, with you. I, too, can talk about the war for hours and tell beautiful tales, but to the question the part number, who is the commander, etc. I will not say anything, because I was not there even in the project.
      2. prodi
        prodi 2 July 2020 15: 47 New
        0
        it turned out that the Cossacks were like highlanders - good at swooping and chasing, but weak in defense through the “can’t”
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 2 July 2020 15: 37 New
      +6
      A clear aga, and a bunch of “rewards” for winning over a pint, ““ for defeating a mother-in-law, ”“ for a beautiful mustache! ”Didn’t you see such pseudo-medals? And I was tearing such indecency from two such beautiful mummers of clowns, and fictitious epaulets embroidered fringed also from one such pseudo-order also tore!
      1. Clear
        Clear 2 July 2020 15: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: Thrifty
        Clear-aaga, and a bunch of "rewards" for victory over a half liter, "" for victory over mother-in-law "," for a beautiful mustache "!

        Of course, the awards must be earned, otherwise he will be ashamed of himself.

        Quote: Thrifty
        And I tore off such indecency from two such beautiful mummers of clowns, and also tore off fictitious shoulder straps embroidered with fringe from one such pseudo-cossack!

        Is it possible to rip off the law? Otherwise, this is a conflict.
        1. novel66
          novel66 2 July 2020 17: 04 New
          +1
          lady, but here they pushed people off the railway platform, and then grabbed the lyuley, where is the law ...
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 2 July 2020 15: 50 New
        +1
        If a Cossack deserves military awards, then let them wear them and not be shy. If it has the badge of a paratrooper or donor - yes to health. Shoulder straps? Shoulder straps need to be earned. Deserved - wear it.
        1. Basil50
          Basil50 2 July 2020 16: 47 New
          +2
          Shoulder straps are * holy *, especially with royal monograms and personal painting of the ampirator.
    3. Alf
      Alf 2 July 2020 19: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Clear
      If a Cossack, in uniform, is neat and ironed, then he looks beautiful. And to whom does he interfere?

      Dear, maybe it's time to start thinking with your head?


      And a full chest of orders received in bloody battles ..
      1. Clear
        Clear 2 July 2020 22: 40 New
        +3
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: Clear
        If a Cossack, in uniform, is neat and ironed, then he looks beautiful. And to whom does he interfere?

        Dear, maybe it's time to start thinking with your head?


        And a full chest of orders received in bloody battles ..

        Oh god, what battles !? Vasily, this is all anniversary and memorable ... The more of them, the ... funnier. Immediately give 365 medals (according to the number of days in a year) and bother inventing anniversaries and holidays. It’s even clear to me, for example, in the market - the more something, the lower the price. Also with awards and titles.
        1. Alf
          Alf 2 July 2020 23: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: Clear
          Oh god, what battles !? Vasily, this is all anniversary and memorable ...

          So I'm kidding. love
    4. Clear
      Clear 2 July 2020 23: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Clear
      and someone, on the contrary, contemptuously casts: "The mummers ..."
      If a Cossack, in uniform, is neat and ironed, then he looks beautiful. And to whom does he interfere?

      Judging by the minuses, not everyone agrees with “tidy and ironed”.
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 2 July 2020 15: 40 New
    +6
    As the hereditary Cossack with Veshenskaya told me, real donors ended in 1918, I don’t know about the Kuban, Tersk and others, what I saw in the Rostov Region at the beginning of the XNUMXs is laughter and sin
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 2 July 2020 15: 51 New
      +7
      As my good friend (from the Terek Cossacks) told me: my grandfather was a Cossack, my father was a Cossack son, and I was dog-fucked.
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 2 July 2020 16: 49 New
        -1
        This is true. It is this attitude to your own son, and now imagine the attitude of this to everyone else? Who are they for him?
        1. Basil50
          Basil50 2 July 2020 19: 20 New
          +2
          It's just that I know too well what the Cossacks did in Turkestan.
          And for the rest of the Cossacks, too, I know a lot. The memory of relatives carved together with families is kept in our family.
          Cossack now about their special rights, but for what? For the fact that they are obliged to behave decently? For compliance with the laws of the RUSSIAN FEDERATION?
          Somehow, these Cossacks remind buggers, those also about their special rights. For those and others, for some reason, scandalous publicity is obligatory and of course more rights than those of RUSSIAN CITIZENS.
    2. tatra
      tatra 2 July 2020 17: 11 New
      -1
      Cossacks, like all the people on the territory of the USSR, all 100 years after the October Revolution are divided into “red” and “white”. So, it turns out that the real Cossacks are only BELOKazaks who fled to the Civil and the Great Patriotic War to play vigilance before the invaders of their Motherland by the Germans, and who are praised by the “whites” who captured Russia in anti-Soviet Perestroika. and who, together with the current White Cossacks, rage against the Bolsheviks.
    3. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 2 July 2020 22: 03 New
      +3
      the Donetsk people mostly turned red, but the Urals and their families all went to Iran, the road was completely graves, they didn’t get enough, and then all of a sudden there are so many Ural Cossacks just wondering, then in the article about training it’s nonsense if a person shoots like it doesn’t matter whether it’s a Cossack or not, but with their sabers they were going to chop leopards-2 like Polish Lancers in 1939
  • Alexander Sosnitsky
    Alexander Sosnitsky 2 July 2020 15: 44 New
    -5
    The Cossacks obey only God, and no one else happens in deserted places where there is no other authority. Today, all the land is occupied by states on a ball, and the Cossacks exist as history, completely subordinate to the state. Perhaps it will gain strength only by spreading to unoccupied space territories. However, today, power is moving from owning land to owning knowledge and growing from sin to God, dissolving privateers such as "My hut from the edge." We have one development path only upward, and not sideways - territorially. However, the main properties of the Cossacks 1) responsibility (involvement in everything) and 2) integrity (freedom and will) remain unshakable traditions of the present.
    1. tatra
      tatra 2 July 2020 17: 12 New
      -2
      And how does God communicate with the White Cossacks? Does their voice sound in their heads?
      1. Alf
        Alf 2 July 2020 19: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: tatra
        And how does God communicate with the White Cossacks? Does their voice sound in their heads?

        Resets to a pager.
    2. Alf
      Alf 2 July 2020 19: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Sosnitsky
      Perhaps it will gain strength only by spreading to unoccupied space territories.

      Lunar Cossack..Marsian Cossack ... Venusian Cossack ... cool ...
      Quote: Alexander Sosnitsky
      We have only one way of development,

      However, how-it flatters something ..
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 2 July 2020 15: 45 New
    14
    Not begging the merits of the Cossacks to the Republic of Ingushetia, do not forget that today it is 80% parasitic education. Units from the mass do something useful, but the mass pans and rattles tsatskas at various events and saws.
    1. MstislavHrabr
      MstislavHrabr 2 July 2020 16: 16 New
      0
      Well, let money earn by "ethnography" ... Are you sorry? Why "parasites" ... Business tourism ...
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 2 July 2020 18: 11 New
        +2
        Let them make a profit on ethno-tourism — quite a niche for themselves. Just then, in this case, it is not necessary to climb into the state administration and demand privileges on the basis of only a photograph of the great-great-grandfather in a cap with a whip. Or or.
      2. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 2 July 2020 22: 07 New
        +1
        as in 12 chairs give money (a joke of course) but the estates were canceled in 1917 what kind of bullshit
    2. doubovitski
      doubovitski 2 July 2020 16: 52 New
      -2
      Quote: evgen1221
      Not begging the merits of the Cossacks to the Republic of Ingushetia, do not forget that today it is 80% parasitic education. Units from the mass do something useful, but the mass pans and rattles tsatskas at various events and saws.

      You do not have tsatsk, but you also hippy, in a ragged and stink. All this mold that is in this self-movement can be easily eliminated by simply recognizing the status and first including the Cossack army in the Russian Guard, subject to the Russian charters. Having unified ranks, uniforms, insignia and awards. Correct the status of Cossacks under modern conditions. Point.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 2 July 2020 18: 07 New
        0
        The troll is small and stupid. Comma (add further if desired)
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 2 July 2020 18: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: doubovitski
        All this mold that is in this self-movement can be easily eliminated by simply recognizing the status and first including the Cossack army in the Russian Guard, subject to the Russian charters.

        And on this the story of the modern Cossacks will end. For it is one thing to solemnly defile the market covered by a quitrent with a bunch of medals like "10 days without a tripper in a combat situation", and another thing - every other day on the belt and subordination with discipline. smile
    3. Alf
      Alf 2 July 2020 19: 20 New
      0
      Quote: evgen1221
      Do not forget that today it is 80% parasitic education.

      Something tells me that 80% is too optimistic ...
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 2 July 2020 15: 47 New
    10
    Well, then the king is on the throne, so the Cossacks are in place.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 2 July 2020 16: 09 New
    -3
    Cossack traditions are the few that remain of the culture of the Russian people. As a will, service and self-government is an example for the whole people. It is possible without archaic crap and horseback riding. But the "Cossack strategy of 2012" - it already sounds anecdotal. What can be in common between government hipsters and direct descendants of the nomenclature with the Cossacks? Agroholdings and semi-criminal "feudal lords" are somehow more dear to officials than the "village men".
  • prior
    prior 2 July 2020 16: 10 New
    +5
    Any division, including into Cossacks and non-Cossacks, does not lead to unity.
    All share and share ....
    When will the "mustachioed unifier" come ........?
    1. doubovitski
      doubovitski 2 July 2020 16: 44 New
      -4
      Quote: prior
      Any division, including into Cossacks and non-Cossacks, does not lead to unity.
      All share and share ....
      When will the "mustachioed unifier" come ........?

      We are all divided. Place of residence, profession, nationality, hobbies. It’s not the outside that matters. but internal. Spiritual Attitude to the Motherland. THIS makes us one (or enemies). The status of the Cossacks in history is known. Correct it under modern conditions (functions, territories, charters and subordination), you must agree, must be modern. A person in a form is separated from you, if his task is to protect you? And if it will be a form of Cossack?
      1. prior
        prior 2 July 2020 17: 08 New
        +7
        The defenders divorced my head, there is no one to work with my hands, migrant workers from Central Asia have to import millions.
        Cossacks are no different from the others - arms, legs, head, in the middle .... stomach.
        Let them serve like everyone where everyone serves.
        1. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 2 July 2020 22: 12 New
          0
          for heaven’s sake, let them be elite units, but show me at least one Cossack division, where is such a spearhead
  • tacet
    tacet 2 July 2020 16: 17 New
    0
    Of course, the Russian Cossacks were not any aggressors throughout their centuries-old history.
    From the point of view of Kuchum, for example, this is a very controversial thesis.
    1. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 2 July 2020 22: 19 New
      +1
      you see, you don’t know that there were city Cossacks and all adventurers went with the Yermak and said that the Cossacks weren’t right there were service people (hunters) and the expansion of land is normal for the leading states of that time, not only Cossacks joined Siberia
  • doubovitski
    doubovitski 2 July 2020 16: 36 New
    -2
    All these disputes and misunderstandings with arrogance, self-name and self-award are resolved simply by recognition of the status of the Cossacks, and the inclusion of his army in the register of the Armed Forces. With all that it implies. The implementation of all military regulations of the Russian Army, the uniformity of uniforms, awards, ranks and other things. At first, include them in the Russian Guard and apply at the place of main residence.
    Cossacks are not nostalgia. Peter I began with a jesting regiment.
    1. Gato
      Gato 2 July 2020 16: 52 New
      +3
      Well, they want recognition of status in the sense of privileges, but the ensuing consequences are not. And they were like this:
      All male Cossacks were considered obligated to military service for a period of 20 years. Unlike the regular army, which was drafted due to a number of benefits and exemptions, the Cossacks were obliged to serve all the polls. Starting from the age of 18, the Cossack was listed in the preparatory category for three years. During this time, he was obliged to acquire a horse and uniform. Then the Cossack was enlisted in combat rank, and served in the service for four years, after which he was transferred “to a privilege”. Cossacks “on privilege” continued to be listed in “preferential” units, the first four years - in the second stage, then transferred from the front rank to the reserve, and in the third stage, but virtually all Cossacks did not serve on the “benefit” anymore. At 33, the Cossack was transferred to the reserve, at 38, to the militia.
      1. doubovitski
        doubovitski 2 July 2020 17: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: Gato
        Well, they want recognition of status in the sense of privileges, but the ensuing consequences are not. And they were like this:
        All male Cossacks were considered obligated to military service for a period of 20 years. Unlike the regular army, which was drafted due to a number of benefits and exemptions, the Cossacks were obliged to serve all the polls. Starting from the age of 18, the Cossack was listed in the preparatory category for three years. During this time, he was obliged to acquire a horse and uniform. Then the Cossack was enlisted in combat rank, and served in the service for four years, after which he was transferred “to a privilege”. Cossacks “on privilege” continued to be listed in “preferential” units, the first four years - in the second stage, then transferred from the front rank to the reserve, and in the third stage, but virtually all Cossacks did not serve on the “benefit” anymore. At 33, the Cossack was transferred to the reserve, at 38, to the militia.

        Talk to them carefully. Offer a status agreed with them, including them in the Rosguard. They agree, to help, like any military unit in Russia. Do not agree, let the roosters discharged go. They will begin to smoke, recognize as an illegal formation with all the consequences ..... Of course, start with the status. Do not rush. There is time. We have one constitution, and rights and obligations too. Territorial service can be accepted. Well, there’s something else to watch carefully, but there shouldn’t be any freemen.
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 2 July 2020 19: 50 New
          +4
          Quote: doubovitski
          We have one constitution, and rights and obligations too.

          With the constitution, you got excited. Recent events have shown that you can do anything and interpret as you like with this frivolous document.
    2. Fitter65
      Fitter65 2 July 2020 17: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: doubovitski
      recognition of the status of the Cossacks, and the inclusion of his army in the register of the Armed Forces.

      laughing laughing laughing laughing And who will protect the markets? You sometimes think that write ... Although on the other hand, have fun good laughing laughing laughing
    3. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 2 July 2020 22: 24 New
      +3
      here I completely agree with you, even if they are fighting the dominance of hostile elements in the south as a national guard, or it’s easy to put Pussi Wright up, but I didn’t see valor with dzhigits
      1. muham
        muham 3 July 2020 08: 48 New
        0
        Quote: Ryaruav
        let them fight the dominance of hostile elements in their south as the Russian Guard

        https://www.mk.ru/social/2013/07/18/886302-podlinnaya-istoriya-iznasilovaniya-kazaka-dagestantsem-v-stanitse-rozhdestvenskoy.html
  • Gato
    Gato 2 July 2020 16: 47 New
    0
    The fate of the “Cossacks” of neighboring Ukraine requires a completely separate discussion: there, alas, this movement, from a certain moment, is completely at the mercy of the most rabid nationalists

    Of course, the history of the Zaporizhzhya and Kuban Troops is generally unclear what side the banderlogs are attached to, although there have never been any local Cossacks on their ridiculous memory, and they sincerely consider B. Khmelnitsky an agent of Putin.
  • Junior Warrant Officer
    Junior Warrant Officer 2 July 2020 16: 57 New
    0
    I share purely my opinion. The modern Cossack is a marginal. Sagging knees, the smell of onions, light amber.
    The only normal Cossacks, and far from all, came across to me in 2014-2015 in LDNR ...
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 2 July 2020 17: 25 New
      +3
      Those in power make an attempt to formalize the Cossacks as an estate. The legislation does not say so directly, but you can read between the lines ... They really want to break people into estates, although formally this already exists, and if it is also legally enshrined ...
      1. Gato
        Gato 2 July 2020 18: 13 New
        +2
        make an attempt to formalize the Cossacks as an estate

        It looks strange ... In the era of crunchy rolls, the loyalty of the Cossacks to power was ensured by their special benefits against the background of 80% of the absolutely powerless slaughtered peasantry. And what will the current bourgeois power provide for it? Will he return the land to eternal possession or cancel taxes? I doubt it very much.
        But to have a well-trained and organized force close at hand, which is still unknown where it can swing ... They don’t like some next pension reform or anything else - and what to do with them?
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    3. Alexander Sosnitsky
      Alexander Sosnitsky 2 July 2020 19: 36 New
      -4
      If he presses, then all will become Cossacks. While the Cossacks are in stock, they work and so on, and if they light up in the shower, then it will not seem to anyone. such people will be able to come to an agreement, and they will hang them with psule.
      1. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 2 July 2020 22: 29 New
        0
        you can squeeze only your own, but as with dzhigits you have a small intestine
        1. Alexander Sosnitsky
          Alexander Sosnitsky 3 July 2020 02: 05 New
          0
          Everything will turn out if necessary. Dzhigits are the same Cossacks, of a slightly different origin. In every nation there are such
      2. border
        border 3 July 2020 14: 14 New
        +2
        Served in the unit "Cossacks" from the Rostov region, Stavropol and Krasnodar territories on the "front lines of the Fatherland". No different from those called from other regions. Neither sovereignty, nor spirituality. Like the rest, they violated discipline and job descriptions. And there was an experiment on the formation of one outpost from the Krasnodar Territory. Also very quickly "came to naught."
  • mag nit
    mag nit 2 July 2020 17: 12 New
    +7
    It’s inherent in them to perform police functions under any authority.
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 2 July 2020 17: 52 New
      +4
      Quote: mag nit
      It’s inherent in them to perform police functions under any authority.

      And also punitive, well, it was true under the kings-priests-ampirators ...
  • fa2998
    fa2998 2 July 2020 17: 34 New
    +9
    Quote: Thrifty
    to separate the Cossacks from all the adherents,
    I myself am from the Cossack region, my family was really Cossacks. But the Cossacks left, and it seems they won’t return. The Cossack is a master, a farmer and a warrior in one person. And those who are covered with different trinkets do not cause faith.
    1 MV-several appeals had a tremendous decrease in Cossacks. Then the civil-white and red Cossacks finished off each other. Then, after retribution, dispossession, the lands were taken away, who was left. And now, after 80 years, both Cossacks are again, HOW WHERE ARE YOU?
    1. Gato
      Gato 2 July 2020 18: 19 New
      +1
      will not return. Cossack is the master, farmer and warrior all rolled into one

      Of course, the era of the farmer-warrior is long gone. It is difficult to imagine a farmer-pilot or a farmer-submariner. Tankers are only easier.
      1. fa2998
        fa2998 2 July 2020 18: 25 New
        +7
        Well, I'm sorry that THESE are not warriors or farmers. They remind you of the dude who wore the general's uniform, and many orders and medals. They did NOTHING for the country, but they want respect, authority, support (better than money). Generals without an army ...
      2. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 2 July 2020 22: 31 New
        0
        on t-72b3 plow is not sickly ha ha ha
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 2 July 2020 17: 43 New
    +7
    Of course, the Russian Cossacks were not any aggressors throughout their centuries-old history. And they were the most reliable shield and support of their Fatherland.
    Well, others, estates and other nationalities were neither a support nor a shield ... Okay, at that time it was a special caste, where any other person was not considered in their concept, but now they walk really mummers ... I remember at the beginning 2000s to our headquarters, then another 83 dietary supplements, such a miracle comes in raspberry stripes, in a papakha, major (well, if you want colonels, gold with two blue gaps without stars) epaulets with monograms ... "Ataman of the Lower Amur Cossack army "laughing laughing laughing He does not even know what color the Transbaikal Cossacks had ... wassat tongue laughing laughing
    1. Gato
      Gato 2 July 2020 18: 25 New
      +1
      Lower Amur Cossack army "laughing laughing laughing He does not even know

      .. that the troops were not like that. As far as I know, there were Amur and Ussuri.
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 2 July 2020 19: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Gato
        As far as I know, there were Amur and Ussuri.

        And do you know what was the color of their stripes and stripes?
    2. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 2 July 2020 22: 33 New
      0
      so raspberry stripes is the Ural Cossack army
      1. olegjuriewitch
        olegjuriewitch 2 July 2020 23: 49 New
        0
        Very true, we have red bottoms. Yaiki neighbors.
        1. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 2 July 2020 23: 52 New
          -1
          so don’s like yellow stripes
      2. Fitter65
        Fitter65 3 July 2020 00: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Ryaruav
        so raspberry stripes is the Ural Cossack army

        Well, after all, no matter how Transbaikal to which the Khabarovsk Territory belongs ...
  • Ngauro
    Ngauro 2 July 2020 18: 22 New
    +5
    why do they broadcast so many hangs on themselves
    1. Alf
      Alf 2 July 2020 19: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: NGAURO
      why do they broadcast so many hangs on themselves

      And without pendants somehow dumb ...
  • Pushkar
    Pushkar 2 July 2020 18: 50 New
    +6
    They were a faithful pillar of the tsarist regime; Muscovites remember their “exploits” in 1905. And now just mummers, begging for privileges.
    1. olegjuriewitch
      olegjuriewitch 2 July 2020 23: 55 New
      0
      Shaw can provocateurs who themselves provoked a mess? The Cossacks served, the troops fought with Japan.
  • yushch
    yushch 2 July 2020 19: 42 New
    -3
    For insignificantly lounging people, I advise you to ride around the villages of Stavropol, Rostov Region and Krasnodar Territory. There Cossacks are the real power that the authorities rely on. I don’t say anything about the first Cossack battalions.
    1. Alf
      Alf 2 July 2020 22: 13 New
      -1
      Quote: yushch
      There the Cossacks are the real power on which the authorities rely.

      And on what legal basis do these ... heirs of glorious traditions exist?
    2. zlobny tatarin
      zlobny tatarin 3 July 2020 14: 03 New
      +1
      I was in Absheronsk. I saw Cossacks ... mishandled, I guess. Mummers of the society, loafers and just worthless little people.
  • acetophenon
    acetophenon 2 July 2020 19: 56 New
    +5
    There are currently no Cossacks in Russia. Of these mumbled thick-bellied parasites, Cossacks are like a bullet from shit.
    At present, there cannot be Cossacks in Russia due to the lack of material resources. There can be only some folklore and religious gatherings of grantosos.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 2 July 2020 20: 08 New
    +9
    Cossack walked off into the distance.

    On the chest was a medal:

    "For courage", "For the victory",

    "For a pleasant chat,"

    "For the scientific works"

    "For the protection of the whole environment",

    two astronaut medals,

    Warcraft player order,

    putting the TRP symbol,

    "Passage THAT",

    Pregnancy Club "Crane",

    Wardrobe DK "Hydraulics",

    "Altavista dot com",

    "Society of fungus patients",

    The captain of the game "Zarnitsa"

    "Gomel mental hospital",

    snuffbox, and flint,

    eight caps from beer,

    "Gypsy Dance Festival"

    "Crane operator, work in a helmet!"

    "Beware of the bike,"

    "Thirty-eight Years of Victory"

    Order of the RSFSR,

    secret order "Templar"

    gum liner "Lyolik-Bolik"

    "Anonymous alcoholic",

    "Club of wine connoisseurs",

    Symbol of shit punk,

    SUSE-Linux, Business Tim,

    In “РўС‹ РЅРґР ° - ”РІРѕСЂРѕРґ РїРѕР ± СЂР ° тим”

    "The most experienced driver"

    "The best boar-maker",

    sign "Honorary diver",

    sticker "Yeltsin-",

    Oktyabryatskaya star,

    "The heroine mother of labor"

    blood type, and Ay-Pi,

    and the pacific on the chain.



    Suddenly a Cossack slipped ...

    And medals - herak!

    And now medals are all

    rolled on the highway.



    Kids! Uncles, aunts!

    If you find anywhere:

    Order of Glory, Order of Peace,

    a button with the coat of arms of Algeria,

    bauble, can opener,

    malachite brooch,

    Red Cross, Peter's Cross

    "City of Prague", "City of Brest",

    "Regimental Nurse",

    "Childhood is a wonderful time,"

    Esperanto, CSKA,

    Forester’s personal number

    cufflinks to military uniform

    "The best turner", "Exhaust is normal",

    "Lose weight in five minutes"

    Youth club "Sohnud",

    "KGB", "Honorary Donor",

    “Elena Bonner Private Foundation”,

    "Chechen Fashion Festival",

    номерок С „РёРґРѕС € РЅРѕР№ РЅРѕРґС‹



    even a medal, even a badge

    Share with the Cossack!

    Леонид Каганов
  • al252ex
    al252ex 2 July 2020 20: 08 New
    +1
    It is imperative to introduce an article on the Cossacks into the constitution. To recruit Cossacks, and more. Then to resettle them all from Chukotka to Nakhodka. Let us protect us from the Japanese and Americans. Catherine was able to relocate the Cossacks to the Kuban. Very good for the country then the Cossacks will bring.
    1. Alf
      Alf 2 July 2020 22: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: al252ex
      Then resettle them all from Chukotka to Nakhodka. Let us protect us from the Japanese and Americans.

      Do you really believe that they will do it? Then you have to go under discipline and under bullets. If this happens, then we will see how many Cossacks are REAL, and how many are mummers.
  • veritas
    veritas 2 July 2020 20: 50 New
    +4
    Is a Cossack a nationality? Occupation?
    These are just people who have weapons or have permission to do so. So, any community of people with weapons can be called Cossacks. Some skeletons are pulled out of the closet, mowed under the monarchy. Under the kings, they mastered new lands, thereby being a kind of pioneers and border guards. And now where should they go?
    1. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 2 July 2020 22: 42 New
      +4
      so sun-faced just on the monarch and mows, well, he loves epaulettes and the taste of French rolls, well, there are not enough Cossacks for the convoy
      1. Alf
        Alf 2 July 2020 23: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: Ryaruav
        so sun-faced just on the monarch and mows, well, he loves epaulettes and the taste of French rolls, well, there are not enough Cossacks for the convoy

        But at the same time he carefully forgets what this past tinsel ended for in the past of the “Anointed of God”.
        1. veritas
          veritas 3 July 2020 22: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Ryaruav
          so sun-faced just on the monarch and mows, well, he loves epaulettes and the taste of French rolls, well, there are not enough Cossacks for the convoy

          But at the same time he carefully forgets what this past tinsel ended for in the past of the “Anointed of God”.

          Yes, they remember, remember, but think that this will not happen to them. They have the same Zolotov.
          1. Alf
            Alf 4 July 2020 18: 55 New
            -1
            Quote: veritas
            Quote: Alf
            Quote: Ryaruav
            so sun-faced just on the monarch and mows, well, he loves epaulettes and the taste of French rolls, well, there are not enough Cossacks for the convoy

            But at the same time he carefully forgets what this past tinsel ended for in the past of the “Anointed of God”.

            Yes, they remember, remember, but think that this will not happen to them. They have the same Zolotov.

            If something really serious happens, this goldsmith will be the first to cut it off.
  • AB
    AB 2 July 2020 21: 10 New
    +5
    The participation of the Cossacks in the protection of public order, the elimination of the consequences of natural and other disasters, and emergency situations is welcome.

    Again the substitution of concepts, if not treason. Seen in the chronicles, read in books. I immediately recall the year 1905. Valorous Cossacks are beaten with whips, chopped with sabers of workers, women, children, the elderly. Someone now needs to revive the sovereign guardsmen, faithful dogs again? Why then are the police, the National Guard, the Ministry of Emergencies? Everyone must do their job.
    Since the reign of Catherine II, the Cossacks officially became border guards and army reserves. Let them remain, without any tinsel in the form of trousers with stripes and shoulder straps with stars, hell knows who he got it from. Lump, berets, epaulettes according to the record in the Military ID, only government awards And then look, it scratches such a paunch over the age of 40, in stripes, with the rank of at least a military foreman, all hung with various glitters in the form of awards. A huge desire to spit this in the wake and ask, "Have you played a little baby in the little spools." Shame, the circus left in 1919, and the clowns still sparkle with stripes.
    1. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 2 July 2020 22: 45 New
      +1
      you do not know history companion therefore do not touch Ivan the Terrible’s guardsmen with the Cossacks of 1905 and are not close in concept
      1. AB
        AB 3 July 2020 12: 08 New
        +2
        Apparently the story I know better than some. Both in 1905 and in 1917, the Cossacks in Moscow and St. Petersburg were not called oprichniks otherwise. I think the words of General Krasnov can be trusted (for ignorant people - Pyotr Nikolaevich Krasnov (1869-1947), general-ot-cavalry, ataman of the All-Great Don Troops, military and political dyel, famous Russian and Cossack writer and publicist) Quote from essay " Cossacks "(P.N. Krasnov. KAZAKI) -" These "guardsmen" and "suppressors" were the first upon the appeal of the Provisional Government in the Bolsheviks in the July days of 1917 to suppress the rebellion of the Bolsheviks. "
        January 1928 Santeni, France.
  • Brigadier
    Brigadier 2 July 2020 23: 12 New
    +2
    These are not Cossacks, but mummers clowns with self-proclaimed titles and awards!

    Our White Guard "ancestors" our Vasily Ivanovich Chapaev at one time was well reduced in number, fighting for our Soviet Power.
    Honor and glory to him for this from all our people, from workers and peasants !!!

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  • olegjuriewitch
    olegjuriewitch 2 July 2020 23: 45 New
    0
    Cossacks, the army of the sovereign, in Russian advanced frontier troops of the borders.
  • lubesky
    lubesky 3 July 2020 01: 07 New
    +1
    7 lyamov Cossacks (combatant, military age ???), isn’t it too much for NOT a monarchy? Under the tsar, it seems no more than 2 million were (despite the fact that the Cossacks flourished). What kind of Cossacks can be discussed at the state level, if the whole point and essence of encouraging and supporting the Cossacks for service (loyalty) were class privileges, in comparison with the peasantry and townspeople - fabulous. I’m silent that the Constitution does not stipulate a ranking table! Although, of course, de Jure’s estate is absent, de facto, of course, it does exist and really works in the courts, inquiries, investigations, and for some when serving in places ...
  • pavelpavel
    pavelpavel 3 July 2020 05: 16 New
    0
    The topic is more than complex, on the one hand the Middle Ages, I still do not understand why, as with traditions? On the other hand, progress is possible in connection with the possibility of training from an early age, positive traditions. The theory of sabotage war banned and written by D. Davydov and half-drunk, clowned clowns. Domostroy and those born to crawl, such as those in power with monuments to ataman Krasnov. Who and what is behind this? That Orthodoxy is not very consistent.
  • Selevc
    Selevc 3 July 2020 07: 35 New
    +2
    The presence in the ranks of Cossacks of blacks, Jews and all kinds of mummers is a consequence of the rapid growth of these movements in the 90-00s ... If different Cossack organizations were not so active, not so chaotic and not so easy, they would distribute their crusts to everyone and extra people would be many times less ...))
    Such organizations are characterized by extremely inept internal organization and low discipline of participants ...
  • GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 3 July 2020 08: 33 New
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    Well, if they settle on the edge of the solar system, it will probably be justified! laughing
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 3 July 2020 09: 11 New
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    As far as we know, "our Cossacks" receives good funding, mainly from Canada, from generous Cossacks with surnames like Rubinstein or Faisilberg. Purely private donations for a good cause! If you drive a little along the Kuban and other south, it is easy to see the cars of the Cossack chieftains. Maybakhs are there only at the very poor, so the cars are more abrupt ... The palaces of these heroes of the present time will beat even some of the Rublev’s. Of course, Canadian donations of the Faisilbergs will not provide this ... however, if you try to conduct business in the south, or buy land, you will immediately encounter Cossacks and their chieftains.
    Way to the future? Here they are?! Thousands and thousands of states and empires passed this road. Before his quick and shameful death ...
  • kriten
    kriten 3 July 2020 12: 30 New
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    Now, in fact, it is full of organized crime groups, dressed as Cossacks.
  • Glaaki
    Glaaki 3 July 2020 12: 45 New
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    Mmm, modern Cossacks ...
  • zlobny tatarin
    zlobny tatarin 3 July 2020 13: 54 New
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    What is the actual article about? The set of words "I want to believe ... a certain role ...", etc. etc. One wisdom. the author is hitting the money, and Moder is dumping this verbal garbage to us. You guys at least read what you expose.
  • Tank hard
    Tank hard 3 July 2020 14: 01 New
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    Keep in mind: the Cossacks as such were never an ethnic group, but represented a special “service” estate.

    After that, the article stopped reading. Another author whose articles on VO, personally, I no longer want to read. request
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 4 July 2020 09: 57 New
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    Everyone wants a special relationship. Benefits for membership.
    Cossacks today is folklore. Dancing mummers.
    Those who participated, I think, participated not because the Cossacks, but because the Russians.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 5 July 2020 22: 12 New
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    Nobody created the Cossacks on purpose; there was a unique situation for several centuries - the space between the powers and on the wreckage of the powers, where people simply lived in war ...
    Turkey was in the prime of its power, Russia was only gathering land, the Horde uluses faded away, the Polovtsy living on these lands, the Khazars black and white (different ethnic groups of one state) lost their statehood, but were not completely destroyed, the Caucasus was always teeming with peoples and For various reasons, Russian people settled outside the official principalities. And, apparently, they constituted the majority, or the organizational core of the gangs, groups, villages and "troops", why these communities turned out to be Russian-speaking and Orthodox. Despite the fact that the appearance of the present descendants of the Cossacks is diverse, but to a large extent dark and swarthy. That is, these are obvious non-Slavs, about half.
    They lived in a war — whom to rob (go to Cossack, how to go to Wikis among the Scandinavians), not to rob themselves, to trade slaves (yasak), to agree to fight with someone for something, not free, naturally. Well, the settlements had to be built - we had to put everything together somewhere, and raise children.
    In short, some PMCs are self-sufficient, and do not belong to any state. Energetic (passionate), restless, skilled fighters.
    But in terms of language and faith, naturally they were interesting to Russia, and they continued to replenish people from there. The most famous project of the times of Ivan the Terrible is the crushing by hands of the Cossacks of the Siberian Khanate and its annexation to Russia. It was cool, and history knows little more than a profitable investment: perhaps the Columbus expedition and the sending of Pizarro and Cortes detachments.
    Then there was everything, and the process of absorption of the Cossacks by the state of Russia was difficult, painful, and dangerous for both sides. Indeed, if Pugachev was more successful - he could inflict the same damage as the Goths and vandals of the Western Roman Empire - they eventually undermined it economically, especially after the occupation of Carthage and the African possessions of Rome. And how many armed conflicts were there!
    But, nevertheless, by the mid-end of the XVIII Cossacks were recorded in the register, registered, legalized, structured, received benefits, and received tasks - to guard and expand the borders of the state, and to fight not at any time with anyone, but strictly as part of the army , and under the command of the royal commanders. Atamanam - general ranks, and governor powers.
    The same Alexander Suvorov was very fond of using Cossack tactics and the actual Cossacks in the war. And by the way, he also loved Cossack horses. The very first successes were not slow to affect - the long and tedious war with the Polish Bar Confederates, the partisan war was essentially resolved with the help of the Cossacks and Suvorov - he knew where and when to beat quickly, the Cossacks were the ones who could do it on the ground.
    Then there was the triumphant entry into Paris of our mobile vanguards - Cossacks and Kalmyks, the long Caucasian war on which two generations of Cossacks grew up, and the revolution, after which the Cossacks strongly and ruthlessly genocide - the communist guys and traditions were very much in spirit. During the war, the title of Cossacks was restored for some parts, but this was not a restoration of the Cossacks with its traditions, privileges and way of life, if you want to plow it - on the collective farm! In Japan in the 70s, a survey of citizens about the nationalities of the USSR showed: Russians, Jews, and Don Cossacks! Here are three peoples of which, according to the Japanese, the Soviet people consisted. We saw the Cossacks and remember.
    And what happened from the 90s to this day ... yes, you can walk in stripes and with a whip, sing songs, hold candles in church ... You can even fight at your own risk, in the Balkans, in the Donbass, in Transnistria, but it is possible for other Russian volunteers, and the state has nothing to do with it.
    But when it was necessary - for those who are adjacent to the rebellious Ichkeria, or even live in it, to distribute weapons and allow them to be used would be suitable for self-defense, which would be quite in the tradition of the Cossacks - so it is not!
    And this indicator - in fact, the Law on Cossacks - is folklore, and nothing more, this restless economy is a real Cossacks as a phenomenon, and our bureaucratic system of large money bags does not need them.
  • UrraletZ
    UrraletZ 7 July 2020 20: 08 New
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    Speaking about the "revival of the Cossacks", the post-Soviet authorities emphasize the leaders of the civil war period, raising the traitors.
  • Li17
    Li17 9 July 2020 06: 31 New
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    Quote: svp67
    So what? Which did you communicate with? With those who defended Lugansk, who fought as part of the "Cossack" battalions in Chechnya? Are they the same "mummers"?

    This is just a good word for the name of all these units. In some ways, it is historically justified, who was coming from where and it is not clear who (more precisely, who is ....). Well, the "Cossacks" who were in Chechnya will understand me, they are 90 percent seekers where to show off and drink vodka .. I quote the words of my friend, who went on demobilization to the chiefs of staff of the regional Cossack army and sent everything three months later. Literally - "Zhenya, half of the criminals and everyone is drawn to arms!" In my town, this organization is decent, the guys are neat, without tsatsk ponte, help at the level of combatants of our poor optimized police, so at least this is useful. I have such an opinion, there is a rational grain in the Cossacks, but the Cossacks in that historical form do not exist. As my driver told me from the village of Grushevskaya about his grandfather, who had disappeared into civilian life, raised his horse to a candle and scolded his wife with a whip, who voted that the new government had promised ...., shut up the fool, that there would be no more!
  • georggy
    georggy 10 July 2020 15: 34 New
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    The author does not need to interfere with one heap of modern Cossacks and swindlers.
    You are a cheap speculator. Great. For money, any whim.