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The land of big shops, big God and hassle-free transport ("The Atlantic", USA)

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The land of big shops, big God and hassle-free transport ("The Atlantic", USA)In the years before Senisha Milavanovich came to America, he watched the movie National Vacation Christmas Vacation with his wife. When 1989's comedy of the year satirically showed the typical American family in the light of Christmas lights, Milavanovich laughed - but not only at the funny antics of Chevy Chase. He told this American Life radio journalist that the very idea of ​​decorating his house with Christmas illumination seemed like a joke to him. "When you watch comedies, you understand that everything is exaggerated to make it funnier. When I watched the movie, I thought it could not be true. Too many lights," he said in 2010 on this radio program.

Imagine the surprise of Milavanovich when he moved to Fargo, North Dakota, and on a December evening he drove into the street on the outskirts of the town. "Some had not only flashlights, but also lamps," he told the reporter about his first, stunning Christmas in America. "And we said to each other - they actually decorate their houses like they did in the Chevy Chase movie!"

This American Life program, which spoke to refugees displaced in the United States — most of them from conflict zones — found that foreigners were shocked by a number of things that Americans consider common: public expressions of sympathy, high levels of obesity, families giving their elderly parents to the elderly, the owners kissing their dogs, the widespread ownership of their own weapons. "Look quickly and do not turn around any more," the Iraqi father says to his children in horror when an armed motorcyclist passes by their car. The children, frightened by the fact that so far they considered weapons as belonging only to the police and criminals, asked: "But why does he have a gun? What does he want to do?"

Many foreign visitors to the United States may seem so unpleasant and strange place that guidebooks describe everything in detail: from the risks of starting a conversation about politics to advice to respect the notorious personal space of Americans. However, what do they discover when they get to America? This American Life program interviewed representatives of a relatively narrow stratum of foreigners, but the discussion on the Quora website goes beyond the radio segment and asks Internet users around the world to tell what surprised them in America.

Users tell their own stories, and some accounts are anonymous, so it’s difficult to determine if any of the stories are exaggerated or even untrue. However, there are a number of regular topics (they are amplified by my personal impressions of the stories of expatriates familiar to me in the USA), which can tell both about the people who come to the USA and about America itself.

Incredibly well-stocked supermarkets: if you've ever been to grocery stores in developing countries, you can probably understand what many foreigners feel when they first find themselves in a shining American store filled with deliciously fresh produce of any season, regardless of the current time of year. A friend of mine from South Asia separately noted the "diversity" of food products, and some even wondered incredulously what was happening with products that were not sold.

Americans actually love their state flag: for an American like me studying at school, where every morning they put their hands on their hearts and swear allegiance to the US flag, it seems to be a normal thing, even banal. However, in other countries it is less common, and I learned that students who studied abroad find it startling and even unhealthy. A Quora reader from Brazil added that he was surprised by "the number of American flags that are visible everywhere, from every place, in every city I visited."

They also love God: "Americans are much more religious than I ever could have imagined when watching American television," a friend from Pakistan told me when I asked her what surprised her on her first visit to America. User Quora from Ireland writes about "prayer breakfasts in the White House. Educated people believe in the doctrine of the creation of the world. A huge number of churches and denominations. People really go to church."

In the sense - you can not bargain ?: In many parts of the world, prices for almost everything depend on how you agree, but in the United States this opportunity is limited only by the market for used cars and newspapers for electronic ads. I heard a lot of stories about how foreign buyers perceived the cashier’s refusal to bargain as simple flirtation. One Quora user talks about his Russian relatives: "On sales and even in restaurants, the fact that bargaining is impossible, upset them a little and surprised them a lot."

So much unhealthy food - if it is, of course, generally called food: An Indonesian friend reflected on the popularity of "synthetic foods", from "bekonesa" (Baconnaise is a kosher product based on mayonnaise with bacon flavor - approx. per.) and Light Lime-a-Rita (beer with lime and cocktail margarita) to sprayed butter (which in fact is not oil). Visitors to the site from different parts of the world say they were horrified by the size of the portions; One person from Eastern Europe (in which, in my feeling, they give gigantic portions) said that he still had to share restaurant portions with his wife. Some Quora users from India describe their horror at the abundance and availability of American food. Some were surprised by the possibility of a free supplement. "Even in most McDonalds and KFC restaurants outside the US, this is not the case." Another user was amazed that "the remaining food can be taken home from the restaurant in a box."

Magic "culture of convenience": "Everyone knows about the American convenience culture: 24-hour stores, fast food, good day," writes one user, associating "convenience culture" with "American culture" a little more closely than it would be flattering. "This is rather pleasant. McDonalds in a shopping center in Beijing or Brazil is a hell. But go have breakfast at McDonalds restaurant in Los Angeles, and all this will surprise you: design and appearance, food, staff behavior. Not a clumsy formula, but culture of life. "

There is poverty here too: “In fact, it’s hard to believe,” writes one of the users that there are hungry children in the richest country in the world. Another writes: "San Francisco is probably one of the richest cities in the richest country in the world. I expected to see wealth. I did not expect to see such poverty. And with each of my visits the city looks worse and worse." An Iraqi refugee interviewed by This American Life was so surprised when he saw a homeless woman in New York’s central park that 911 called, suggesting that she was sick, injured — anything but American in America.

How do they make everyone follow the rules of the road ?: Taxi driver quoting is sometimes considered a specimen of lazy journalism, but there is one important general tendency that I discovered among migrant taxi drivers working in the US and taxi drivers who come to see the States: their surprise at how diligently American drivers follow traffic rules. Compared to America, driving in many cities in the developing world is similar to orderly chaos - drivers ignore not only the red traffic lights and speed limiters, but also dividing lanes, and even the direction of travel. If you go to Cairo and rent a car (note: do not rent a car in Cairo!), You will have to follow the standard “every man for himself” drive if you want to get anywhere; and you will drive as if you were in the States - you will never even leave the parking lot.

The miracle of American roads, as outsiders call it, is that it only works if everyone follows the same written rules and unwritten norms. And everyone follows.

None of what I saw in the TV series "Friends": The United States is as famous as the country may be. People around the world will recognize America through films and television shows that dominate the global entertainment culture. However, these media descriptions sometimes only reinforce rather than dispel delusions. One of my Chinese friends once said that, of course, young Americans change their passions every week, because she saw it in Friends, Sex and the City, and in many other TV shows. They all can not lie.

None of what I heard in my homeland: Quora's another quotation reflects how vaguely the world represents some American social customs, especially our practice of putting the elderly in nursing homes:

“Many Indians are surprised to learn that so many Americans really love their parents, siblings, wives and children, and maintain normal, healthy relationships with them. Our media convinced them that Americans are very selfish, kick their children from home after school, do not care for their parents and divorce their spouses.And I swear this is actually true: many Indians do not believe that this is not true - until they themselves go to the States and see examples of good healthy family relationships. I have had heated arguments with people who have never been to the States, but can lecture on how family values ​​are defiled in the United States. "

Where are the cowboys ?: Often, America, seen in films, has a better reputation than real America. A Quora guest from Eastern Europe experienced an extreme form of such surprise: “When we fled from Czechoslovakia (which was still communist at the time) in 1981, I was only eight, and I thought that America still looks like it was before 1900 of the year - Wild West, gold rush, and so on. Maybe it was all that was shown on TV? In any case, I expected to see horses tied to poles near the post office or mixed goods store. Imagine my surprise! " This is all - the fact that even such a famous country as America, in this sense, is similar to all other countries: you will not recognize it until you see it with your own eyes.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 4 August 2012 07: 15
    +15
    Another advertisement of America, why do we need an article in which the truth is not much more than on an American show. Believing Americans, Catholics have always been believers, and with their faith they have ripped out whole nations. The Crusades are also part of the faith. But how many Americans live by faith?
    1. recitatorus
      recitatorus 4 August 2012 09: 59
      +16
      Alexander Romanov,
      The article can be renamed - Pity America! crying crying crying
      1. Nir
        Nir 4 August 2012 11: 14
        -21
        Quote: recitatorus
        The article can be renamed - Pity America!

        It would be better to regret ourselves rather than America, to its standard of living for many oh how far and we will not show our finger to anyone exactly. lol
        1. recitatorus
          recitatorus 4 August 2012 12: 38
          +15
          Quote: Nir
          It would be better to regret yourself rather than America, d

          And we do not need to feel sorry! If you regularly travel to America, this does not mean that you know Russia! fool
          1. Nir
            Nir 4 August 2012 12: 55
            -9
            Quote: recitatorus
            If you regularly travel to America, this does not mean that you know Russia!

            And what have I not seen there? Especially considering that as soon as you leave from Sheremetyevo in the direction of Mos.obl. you already feel how much the world of zamkady differs from Mos.City. lol There is nothing to compare, even to the nearest Moscow suburbs of the same Kalininets settlement, oh how far from the same suburb of Chicago lol and in the place of wanting to find fault it is better to adopt the experience of the positive experience of the same America and not deny it. wink
            1. Churchill
              Churchill 4 August 2012 13: 28
              +19
              Quote: Nir
              it is better to learn from the experience of the positive experience of the same America

              And what is the positive experience of America in it? .. In consumption? .. In same-sex marriages? .. Or in peacemaking carpet bombing? fool
              1. Bismarck
                Bismarck 4 August 2012 15: 29
                +16
                Churchill,
                In a printing machine! Making money out of nothing is not a dream! wassat
            2. io_stalin
              io_stalin 4 August 2012 19: 37
              +12
              America is a vampire country.
              Draws resources from around the world.
              It's time to lose weight!
              It's time!
        2. shifervals
          shifervals 4 August 2012 21: 03
          +6
          Nir, It would be better to regret ourselves rather than America, to its standard of living for many oh how far and we will not show our finger to anyone

          Right Especially to Uzbekistan
    2. Nir
      Nir 4 August 2012 11: 13
      -7
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Another advertisement of America, why do we need an article in which the truth is not much more than on an American show. Believing Americans, Catholics have always been believers, and with their faith they have ripped out whole nations. The Crusades are also part of the faith. But how many Americans live by faith?

      Do many Russians live by faith? Do not distort Distinguished Americans as a people very simple honest believers in the majority of their people and you will be surprised they are hard workers.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 4 August 2012 11: 26
        +13
        Quote: Nir

        Do many Russians live by faith? Do not distort Distinguished Americans as a people very simple honest believers

        Russia with the name of Christ did not destroy peoples, did not organize crusades, did not burn people at the stake, did not pay for the scalps of the Chukchi and other indigenous peoples !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And she didn’t do anything bad, including Russia didn’t have soldiers on whose belts it was written God is with us and these soldiers sent people to gas chambers. Well, if America is sacred to you, your right, everyone chooses friends for himself!
        1. Nir
          Nir 4 August 2012 11: 32
          -7
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Russia with the name of Christ did not destroy peoples, did not organize crusades, did not burn people at the stake, did not pay for the scalps of the Chukchi and other indigenous peoples !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And she didn’t do anything bad, including Russia didn’t have soldiers on whose belts it was written God is with us and these soldiers sent people to gas chambers. Well, if America is sacred to you, your right, everyone chooses friends for himself!

          No need to distort, you were the United States? Did you communicate with ordinary Americans? Have you been in their family circle? Have you ever been on Sundays in their churches? I think there’s no time write strange comments, enough templates to think; learn to objectively weigh everything. America is not at all the country that you are used to seeing through the lenses of Hollywood cameras.
          1. recitatorus
            recitatorus 4 August 2012 12: 20
            +19
            Quote: Nir
            No need to distort, you were the United States? Did you communicate with ordinary Americans? Have you been in their family circle?

            Are you at all the tables or something gray? .. Or just at the pleasant ones! .. America is the same different. You are so exceptionally creamy.
            1. Nir
              Nir 4 August 2012 12: 28
              -4
              Quote: recitatorus
              Are you at all the tables or something gray? .. Or just at the pleasant ones! .. America is the same different. You are so exceptionally creamy.

              And who says that it is completely the same and good-natured, there are black ghettos and rednecks of the central provincial states too ... but it’s not worth making a template out of them and a picture of the whole country wink as I wrote in the main part, and this is a key word so we read carefully lol
              1. Bismarck
                Bismarck 4 August 2012 15: 27
                +10
                Quote: Nir
                there are black ghettos and there are rednecks of the central provincial states too

                So here we go, light up! By the same fervor and frowning! Do not be afraid of tears, cut it on the living. To love so for everything. drinks
              2. FiremanRS
                FiremanRS 4 August 2012 19: 15
                +11
                For the most part ..... Yes, this is a key phrase, only with a minus sign. For the bulk of amers is quite illiterate and believes only in the president, the flag and the shotgun behind the chair. The small part that can nevertheless write without errors, find its capital on a map and at least roughly name the geographical location of Russia, probably thinks as you describe, but out of fear for its family and its well-being, it will never raise its head and will not say the truth about themselves and their country, for they will immediately go to jail.
          2. io_stalin
            io_stalin 4 August 2012 19: 08
            +12
            bully
            The collective image of America and Europe.
          3. Sandov
            Sandov 14 August 2012 18: 30
            +1
            Nir,
            Well, what to do there, they’ll put him in the electrostool or shoot the police. They buy brains for bablos all over the world, and so what of this. They buy their allies and rob them. They give it with one hand, and with the other they give it to their pockets. Well, fig us your sevstatamer. laughing
    3. Captain
      Captain 4 August 2012 12: 35
      +12
      Believers Americans, Catholics

      Protestant sectarians they are.

      Crusades are also part of the faith

      I do not agree. For example, a crusade against Byzantium was organized and paid for by the Venetians. Faith was just a cover for lobbying for business interests and robberies.

      They also love God

      Golden Calf?
      1. Nir
        Nir 4 August 2012 12: 47
        0
        Quote: Captain
        Protestant sectarians they are.

        But your faith does this mean the most correct? Are they bad sectarians? Are you the Lord God so that you can decide whose poems in the patch are more melodic? lol
    4. FiremanRS
      FiremanRS 4 August 2012 19: 08
      +9
      Alex, every sandpiper praises his swamp. So let's leave his swamp to the amer. I do not migrate from Russia for any price, and I am ready to sing of its beauty forever, even if not like our poets. Everything that happens in the USA is their own business and God be their judge! The main thing is that in the end their policy would be limited only to their continent and their "truth" would remain only their "truth" and would not be forcibly imposed on other states.
  2. Crumbumbes
    Crumbumbes 4 August 2012 07: 18
    +17
    pah, pro-American article (

    I have heard many stories about how foreign buyers perceived the cashier’s refusal to bargain as simple coquetry. Single user

    I laughed at this for a long time ... and what do we have in Russia going to the supermarket, the stop pavilion, but does any store, whether it’s a grocery or clothing visitor, start to bargain? )) such nonsense ...

    "synthetic foods", from "baconise" (Baconnaise - a kosher product based on bacon-flavored mayonnaise - approx. lane) and Light Lime-a-Rita (a beer flavored with lime and cocktail margarita) to sprayed butter (which is really is not oil)


    let them chew their paralonne gingerbread cookies and vinyl candy ...

    Everyone knows about American convenience culture: 24-hour shopping, fast food, have a nice day, "writes one user, associating" culture of convenience "with" American culture. "

    so then we have long been present around the clock food stores and cafes, pharmacies, etc.

    1. recitatorus
      recitatorus 4 August 2012 10: 04
      +19
      Crumbumbes,
      In general, all the ideas about America that have developed among the citizens of the world are not far from the truth! Plus or minus are unprincipled. The bottom line is that the country is rotten, and the population is stupid, and this essence is unshakable!
  3. Evil Tatar
    Evil Tatar 4 August 2012 07: 46
    +13
    Posted by Max Fisher
    Samopiar ...
    A look from the side towards yourself and your country, through fictional stories ... Crap.
    1. recitatorus
      recitatorus 4 August 2012 10: 01
      +13
      Angry Tatar,
      No matter how hard he tried, he never brought a single intelligible argument! One water!
    2. Nir
      Nir 4 August 2012 11: 15
      -11
      Quote: Angry Tatar
      Posted by Max Fisher Samopiar ... Look from the side on yourself and your country, through fictional stories ... Crap.

      Envy is not a good feeling ...
      1. Mobidic
        Mobidic 4 August 2012 13: 30
        +10
        Quote: Nir
        Envy is not a good feeling ...

        What to envy, to endure questions around with a stereotyped smile in your address like: "How are you?", From this alone you will soon whine and start sending away. This does not mean that I personally am not so sociable, it is just that, for example, our Russians usually have such a character that falsehood is not appropriate here. But, in general, everywhere is good and bad in its own way, everywhere has its own culture.
      2. Che
        Che 14 August 2012 15: 19
        +1
        Nir,
        I would not want to live in this fucking America. As fag there feel great.
  4. lotus04
    lotus04 4 August 2012 07: 48
    +4
    There is nothing to talk about.
    1. io_stalin
      io_stalin 4 August 2012 22: 55
      +6
      Then you can just laugh :)
  5. uladzimir.surko
    uladzimir.surko 4 August 2012 07: 52
    +5
    Abramovich didn’t throw an article!
  6. cobra66
    cobra66 4 August 2012 08: 10
    +6
    At the expense of the church: what kind of love for God do they say when every day they unleash a new war
    And about food: they slaughter pigs for slaughter laughing
    1. Nir
      Nir 4 August 2012 11: 15
      -10
      Quote: Kobra66
      At the expense of the church: what kind of love for God do they say when every day they unleash a new war

      About that one.
      1. io_stalin
        io_stalin 5 August 2012 00: 36
        +8
        The USA is a temporary historical misunderstanding, a set of some Native American territories
        In total, the Americans destroyed somewhere around 100 million Indians, which makes it possible to talk about unprecedented genocide in world history.
        Over 280 years - 100 million Indians (about 1000 every day, including weekends and holidays). But technology is evolving: Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki - tens of thousands in a matter of hours!

        In American history, there is another crime against its people - this is the Great American Famine of the same, ill-fated 1932/33, as a result of which the United States missed millions of its citizens.
        About this, as well as about the genocide of the indigenous population, you will not find condemning resolutions of the Congress, angry speeches of American politicians, "memorial signs" erected on the anniversary of the mass destruction of people and other tokens of memory.
        The memory of this is reliably immured in forged statistics reports, in archives cleared of evidence of crime, written off to the "invisible hand of the market", varnished with eulogies about the genius of President Roosevelt, and the happiness of "public works" organized by him for the nation - in fact, little different from the GULAG and epics of the construction of the White Sea Canal. Of course, according to the American version of history, only "in the Soviet Union millions of men, women and children became victims of cruel actions and policies of a criminal totalitarian regime", such definitions are unacceptable to American history.
        "But the Curve went in a circle, legs were different .."
        America (along with England) became the center of the global financial empire; it became a state-corporation.
        Representatives of the families Warburg, Kun Loeb, Goldman Sachs, Schiff and Rothschild got married among themselves and formed one big and happy banking family.
        Today THEY control a huge financial empire that holds controlling stakes in most of the world's central banks. The Edmond de Rothschild clan owns Banque Privee SA in Lugano, Switzerland, and Rothschild Bank AG in Zurich. The family of Jacob Lord Rothschild owns the influential Rothschild Italia in Milan. They are founding members of the exclusive "Island Club", whose resources are estimated at $ 10 trillion. Members of this club control such corporate giants as: Royal Dutch Shell, Imperial Chemical Industries, Lloyds in London, Unilever, Barclays, Lonrho, Rio Tinto Zinc, BHP Billiton and Anglo American DeBeers. They are the world's major suppliers of oil, gold, diamonds, and many other vital raw materials.

        Griffith Tarpley Press TV:
        The current policy of the US, the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton in the Department of State, is aimed at the destruction of all sovereign states on this planet. In fact, this is a return of the situation in the world to the times before the Treaty of Westphalia in 1648, which established the regime of modern sovereign states.
        The insanity of the United States and Britain is based on their financial insolvency, and they have no choice but to increase the degree of exploitation, capture and robbery. During this process, any national government is an unacceptable obstacle for them in their way.
        America is our number one enemy, it is the number one enemy for all states.
        Their goal is to come to a situation where the International Monetary Fund and NATO will rule the world above, but below there will be a kind of crazy house of small, squabble, weak formations, in no way able to withstand Exxon Mobile, or JP Morgan Chase, or Halliburton, or like them - again, today's Libya is an example.
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 14 August 2012 18: 41
          0
          io_stalin,
          +++ Amer is not only our enemy, they are the enemy of all mankind. For all the time of its existence, the people have been laid inordinately. Here is someone under trial in the same corrupt The Hague.
    2. Sandov
      Sandov 14 August 2012 18: 38
      0
      cobra66,
      America is rotten, maybe during the formation of the state it was thought of as a bastion of democracy, but now it has slipped to the level of a terrorist enclave on the American continent.
  7. Delink
    Delink 4 August 2012 08: 41
    +8
    So what?! We have it all. And we can buy it all, with natural products. And on the windows hangs garlands in the New Year. And we go to church. And we believe in God. And we watch different films. And what's next? And then what we are arranged differently, we are not zombies. We are still thinking Russian people. And we cannot be broken, not reformatted (according to Zadornov). We all remember and honor the memory. And even the Old filter, which can not be said about Amer.
    1. Nir
      Nir 4 August 2012 11: 19
      -9
      Quote: Delink
      We have it all.

      Wow wink
      Quote: Delink
      with natural products.

      Wake up dear, what kind of kind do you write? Have you been in the supermarket for a long time?
      Quote: Delink
      We are still thinking Russian people.

      And where did you get that Americans are not thinking people? They are now 1 world economy and the most powerful country in the world, and how do you think those who did not think could achieve this?
      Quote: Delink
      And even the Old filter, which can not be said about Amer.

      They’re taking such stupid ears for good and they don’t have any kind of analytics ... wink
      1. kotdavin4i
        kotdavin4i 4 August 2012 11: 50
        +4
        Nir, I don’t know why it’s stubbornly arguing, like Uzbekistan is not America, although it may be they who pay you money - here’s a link to the study, which is true for 2010, but still (20 countries with the highest standard of living
        Well, where we do not? There is a deal of truth in it. We present a list of 20 countries with the highest standards of living for 2010.
        The Quality of Life Index magazine annually compiles a rating of 194 countries, highlighting the most favorable for life from them. Based on 9 different criteria, such as a living wage, culture and leisure, economics, the environment, freedom, health, infrastructure, safety and risk, and climate.)
        http://yesway.ru/20-stran-s-samym-vysokim-urovnem-zhizni.html
        So America is here in 7th place ... where is your first world economy ???
        1. Nir
          Nir 4 August 2012 11: 54
          -6
          And who writes that the USA has the highest standard of living, I wrote that the USA is still the world's No. 1 economy, or will you argue on this issue? I am writing so that we would no longer be stereotyped to think about the United States and Americans. It’s stupid to hang labels on whole people like that with templates, but after that we ourselves are offended when the devil knows about us in the West too.
          1. recitatorus
            recitatorus 4 August 2012 12: 23
            +15
            Quote: Nir
            I am writing so that we would no longer have to think stereotyped about the USA and Americans

            Yes, we would be better off not knowing what they are in this world! Calm down our amerolub! We honestly do not give a damn about them, Washington bothers us! And while it bothers us, it may not stutter about good, gentle, God-loving Americans!
            1. Nir
              Nir 4 August 2012 12: 45
              -11
              Quote: recitatorus
              Yes, we would be better off not knowing what they are in this world! Calm down our amerolub! We honestly do not give a damn about them, Washington bothers us! And while it bothers us, it may not stutter about good, gentle, God-loving Americans!

              Well, envy is not a good feeling wink They are No. 1 in the world today, whether you like it or not, they dictate what and how it should be. wink So it’s better you don’t worry and reconcile yourself lol
              1. Churchill
                Churchill 4 August 2012 13: 24
                +15
                Quote: Nir
                what better do not worry and reconcile yourself

                But wait for this hell! negative
              2. Crumbumbes
                Crumbumbes 4 August 2012 13: 33
                +10
                Well, envy is not a good feeling
                and someone wrote about envy? ... you invented something for yourself there ...
              3. Che
                Che 14 August 2012 15: 28
                +1
                Nir,
                Never reconcile, dick and you will put us on our knees. We will poison you like bugs.
            2. Crumbumbes
              Crumbumbes 4 August 2012 13: 30
              +10
              recitatorus, well said smile
              good
        2. bachast
          bachast 4 August 2012 12: 03
          +1
          In this ranking, Russia is somewhere closer to the hundredth place, and Azerbaijan is even further. France in the first was surprised ..
        3. Nir
          Nir 4 August 2012 12: 15
          -5
          Quote: kotdavin4i
          So America is here in 7th place ... where is your first world economy ???

          Do you distinguish between the concepts of world economy No. 1 and the concept of a high standard of living? If there is no Google help you are respected. You will be surprised that these are different concepts. lol
          1. kotdavin4i
            kotdavin4i 4 August 2012 12: 18
            +4
            What are you ??? can a country with the first economy in the world have 7th place in terms of living standards? Then it turns out that the other sins are pulled down yes?
            1. Nir
              Nir 4 August 2012 12: 21
              -5
              Quote: kotdavin4i
              What are you ??? can a country with the first economy in the world have 7th place in terms of living standards? Then it turns out that the other sins are pulled down yes?

              Yes, and you left some kind of rating wink According to him, you still drag on and drag on to a country such as Kyrgyzstan or Tajikistan, what are you retarded wink
              ps
              Read about old Bhutan and find out that the happiest people in the world live there, and then take a look at their GDP per capita (I really hope that you at least know what GDP is lol )
            2. bachast
              bachast 4 August 2012 12: 22
              +10
              That's right. Is our economy so low that Georgia and Latvia are ahead of us? Compare the budget only .... And there Russia is at the end of a hundred ..... Again, there are criteria, climate, freedom of speech, environment are taken into account . Climate and economy (!) wink
              1. Churchill
                Churchill 4 August 2012 13: 23
                +12
                bachast,
                Whoever makes these ratings is chocolate with strawberries!
      2. Crumbumbes
        Crumbumbes 4 August 2012 13: 27
        +9
        Nir,
        Wow
        list then what is not smile
        Wake up dear, what kind of kind do you write? Have you been in the supermarket for a long time?
        then a counter question, but do you yourself visit grocery stores? so there are: bakery, milk, pasta, cereals, fish, you can list for a very long time, are they plastic or rubber?)) (I’ve heard about some kind of becones for the first time, and this is really not on the shelves looking for).
      3. Che
        Che 14 August 2012 15: 24
        +1
        Nir,
        Amers drive us different things about the type of legs of a bush and Pepsi with chips. Let them eat it themselves.
  8. GHG
    GHG 4 August 2012 08: 49
    +12
    The article is probably from the 90s. They also blew us about the American "dream" in the 80s-90s through all the media laughing I certainly know that not all emigrants from Russia have found their niche there and are happy. Only (DEBIL) can live in the realm of vice and lies. ..move to the plate be so kind-eat up.
    1. Nir
      Nir 4 August 2012 11: 23
      -7
      Quote: GES
      Only the (DEBIL) can live in the realm of vice and lies.

      Wuhu, I didn’t see something that was directly crying and wanting to return immigrants, just the opposite, as I see in turns at the US Embassy how many people want to pull permanent residence into the realm of vice and lies ... lol
      1. GHG
        GHG 4 August 2012 11: 36
        +9
        Quote: Nir
        I see in turn at the US Embassy how many people want to pull for permanent residence

        So I say (DEBIL)

        Nir (3)
        This is your turn there in Tashkent)))
        1. Nir
          Nir 4 August 2012 11: 38
          -4
          Quote: GES
          So I say (DEBIL)

          As you confidently, specialists, engineers, doctors and other educated people are considered morons. Do you have that moron somewhere in store once so confidently write? wink
          1. GHG
            GHG 4 August 2012 11: 48
            +11
            Well, the specialists left earlier ... and got accustomed, specialists are invited to work and permanent residence creating conditions, and they do not go to work as taxi drivers and garbage men.

            In my understanding, only I. Sikorsky has achieved success over the past 100 years. And the rest are so-so))) "Wonder-athletes", artists and singers released in circulation? Where are they?
            1. Nir
              Nir 4 August 2012 11: 50
              -7
              Quote: GES
              Well, the experts left earlier

              Yes, of course, earlier the ear ... it’s good to lie to oneself both earlier and now and after blowing in the USA, the Jacob continues to blow there at all times, because in the USA there are conditions for them to do exactly what they want.
            2. Roman 75
              Roman 75 4 August 2012 14: 47
              -8
              Quote: GES
              In my understanding, only I. Sikorsky has achieved success over the past 100 years. And the rest is so-so)))


              Uh-huh.
              Ponyatov, Kartvelishvili, Zvorykin, Rakhmaninov, Prokofiev-Seversky, Ackerman (the one that Janis), Brinner, Nabokov, Glukharyov (Glukareff Eugene), Dobzhansky, Botezat - this is so, garbage, dregs of society, cigarette butts of civilization, not a damn thing America did not achieve? ...
              And these are only those names that were suddenly remembered, without reference books and encyclopedias.
              1. GHG
                GHG 5 August 2012 23: 19
                +2
                You would have remembered Adam ... almost all the nobles, besides already inanimate, put the question wrong))) Name the contemporaries who got there in recent years. laughing The current ones in your directories and encyclopedias will not fall.
          2. Crumbumbes
            Crumbumbes 4 August 2012 13: 40
            0
            Nir,

            How confident are you specialists, engineers, doctors

            So then some Amerov’s specialists go to work (to participate) in Skolkovo. and you don’t have to write about what happened in the 90s, right now either entrepreneurs or type of girls who want to marry a foreigner go there (just such female people don’t want to work)
        2. Nir
          Nir 4 August 2012 11: 44
          -7
          Quote: GES
          This is your turn there in Tashkent)))

          Drive around the weekend to the embassy and see where the contours wink Do not lie to yourself, please, ok if everything was so bad for them and you had super your scientists and special packs in the USA you wouldn’t be leaving for permanent residence and if there wouldn’t be any work there, I’m generally silent about young specialists ... they’re not that flow to the west, they flow in there.
          1. GHG
            GHG 4 August 2012 11: 57
            +9
            Well, firstly, UWB fenced off from this world and it’s quite difficult to get a visa, even a tourist one, or a work one ... from there and the queue))) So do not)))

            Okay, I won’t argue with you, UWB is the limit of your dreams, I’ll go home to build my dream to finish))))
            1. Nir
              Nir 4 August 2012 12: 00
              -9
              Quote: GES
              Well, firstly, UWB fenced off from this world and it’s quite difficult to get a visa, even a tourist one, or a work one ... from there and the queue))) So do not)))

              Dear, you write one thing then another, and after the reason, find why it is so. smile Yes, admit it to yourself it’s already attractive. For many, many people dream of going there for permanent residence from a specialist in a narrow profile to a taxi driver. lol The most important thing is to learn many things from them, not all of them also have a lot of excesses and mistakes, but many things should be learned from them and done so that they would dream of coming to our lives to work in our Starn.
              1. recitatorus
                recitatorus 4 August 2012 12: 29
                +15
                Quote: Nir
                attractive USA for many, many dream of going there for permanent residence

                Well, firstly not for many, but for some! This is a big difference.
                Quote: Nir
                to do so that we would dream of coming to our lives and working

                And secondly, do we need it? We are not a country of hereditary immigrants. I do not think that the mass invasion of dreamy strangers will be welcomed by the majority of the people.
                1. Nir
                  Nir 4 August 2012 12: 34
                  -9
                  Quote: recitatorus
                  We are not a country of hereditary immigrants. I do not think that the mass invasion of dreamy strangers will be welcomed by the majority of the people.

                  Xenophobia xenophobia and once again xenophobia kills progress wink
                  1. Churchill
                    Churchill 4 August 2012 13: 20
                    +16
                    Quote: Nir
                    Xenophobia xenophobia and once again xenophobia kills progress

                    This is not xenophobia, because the homeland is not a passing yard!
                    1. Bismarck
                      Bismarck 4 August 2012 15: 24
                      +11
                      Churchill,
                      The example of France does not inspire me! There are too many doubts that all this black army will produce at least one more Pushkin.
                  2. Sandov
                    Sandov 15 August 2012 21: 25
                    0
                    Nir,
                    This is not xenophobia, it is self-sufficiency, we do not need to buy up talents, we have a lot of them.
              2. werevolf75
                werevolf75 4 August 2012 12: 47
                +14
                Nir,
                Dear, you saw for yourself an example to follow, a flag in hand !!! But why such propaganda ?!
                They tell you about their moral qualities, and you shout about their economic success ...- The ability to cash in on someone else’s grief, according to generally accepted moral standards, is not a sign of high moral qualities.
                Yes, they love themselves very much, their flag. They very much like to plant their vision of freedom, on someone else’s opinion from a high bell tower ...- There is only their opinion and the wrong one ... Well, etc., etc.
          2. Che
            Che 14 August 2012 15: 37
            +1
            Nir,
            Yes, what is there to do in this country, I agree to look at the beauties, but to live under the yoke of the police state, there is no fire. Eat this crap yourself
  9. volcano
    volcano 4 August 2012 09: 14
    +4
    What kind of advertising?
    And then we ourselves do not know what the USA is like.
  10. pribolt
    pribolt 4 August 2012 09: 20
    +6
    My friend left for the USA and there she became an alcoholic.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 August 2012 09: 25
      +3
      Quote: pribolt

      My friend left for the USA and there she became an alcoholic

      Well, give her my regards laughing
      1. bachast
        bachast 4 August 2012 09: 30
        +1
        And a worthy answer!
      2. pribolt
        pribolt 4 August 2012 23: 39
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well, give her my regards


        Necessarily as soon as I leave on Skype I will transfer laughing
    2. bachast
      bachast 4 August 2012 09: 29
      -1
      Great comment! bully
    3. Nir
      Nir 4 August 2012 11: 24
      -5
      Quote: pribolt
      My friend left for the USA and there she became an alcoholic.

      Oh, what bad amers made your friend drink hard ah ah ah ah, why not be angry at the mirror since the face of the crooked heard such a saying?
      1. Bismarck
        Bismarck 4 August 2012 15: 21
        +11
        Quote: Nir
        Oh, what amers bad made your friend drink hard

        Of course the bad ones! They killed her dream, America was not like her girl's daydream! .. And she should have demanded compensation for moral damage from the United States. what
      2. pribolt
        pribolt 4 August 2012 23: 37
        +5
        Quote: Nir
        Oh, what bad amers made your friend drink hard ah ah ah ah, why not be angry at the mirror since the face of the crooked heard such a saying?


        I have a question, where I wrote about the alcoholic, there are additions, I can tell you by the fact that the woman is not doing well and I don’t know the reasons, the amers are bad or not, notice you made the conclusion yourself, and here she had everything at home fine. There are other friends who also left and returned. Searched for the American dream, apparently not found. But most of all I am annoyed by people who come back and begin to criticize how we live here and how well there is, so I want to ask what kind of X you are ... I did not stay there.
  11. NICK
    NICK 4 August 2012 10: 14
    -1
    Commentators! Of you, someone personally, was in America (USA)?
    1. Nir
      Nir 4 August 2012 11: 26
      -6
      Quote: NICK
      Commentators! Of you, someone personally, was in America (USA)?

      I lived and visit the USA from time to time and I’m on duty there and I’m just eager when someone on the site writes about something I didn’t see at all, but I didn’t read Pasternak’s criticism wink
      1. NICK
        NICK 4 August 2012 11: 34
        0
        And How? Corresponding to the facts of American reality?
        1. Nir
          Nir 4 August 2012 11: 41
          -7
          Quote: NICK
          And How? Corresponding to the facts of American reality?

          The fact that the article is written a lot corresponds especially to the family and their relationship. Americans are not stupid egoists at all; they love their family and their country. At least I did not see the flags at home in Russia, but they have it as expected.
          1. recitatorus
            recitatorus 4 August 2012 12: 31
            +14
            Quote: Nir
            . At least I did not see the flags in Russia at home, but they have it as it should

            They are also scribbling underpants with dressing gowns from their flag, we can sit for such blasphemy, and rightly so!
            1. bachast
              bachast 4 August 2012 12: 33
              +3
              Speech about such cowards?

          2. lelikas
            lelikas 4 August 2012 13: 28
            +2
            So we have also been fined for using the state flag.
            I don’t know how now.
          3. Mobidic
            Mobidic 4 August 2012 13: 46
            +5
            Quote: Nir
            At least I did not see the flags at home in Russia, but they have it as expected.

            I think that in America the flags of every house are like an identification mark, like they live here. And if there is no flag, there is already a suspicion of the house, who is here and where and what they are doing
      2. Crumbumbes
        Crumbumbes 4 August 2012 13: 43
        +12
        Quote: Nir
        I’m on duty there

        debt obliges you ... laughing
        1. Bismarck
          Bismarck 4 August 2012 15: 11
          +13
          Quote: Krumbumbes
          debt obliges you ...

          And there will be a lot of calls - the visa will be canceled! bully
      3. Che
        Che 14 August 2012 15: 42
        +1
        Nir,
        He took poems of the parsnip tried to read and threw it. It is impossible to read. Maybe in a street toilet only. wassat
    2. pribolt
      pribolt 5 August 2012 00: 55
      0
      I was not in the USA, I was in Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Germany, Belgium, Go
  12. Fox
    Fox 4 August 2012 10: 35
    +4
    ALWAYS BELIEVE ADVERTISING is the motto of the article.
    1. kotdavin4i
      kotdavin4i 4 August 2012 11: 53
      +4
      Good things will not advertise! So it is with life in the states.
      1. Nir
        Nir 4 August 2012 12: 01
        -3
        Quote: kotdavin4i
        Good things will not advertise! So it is with life in the states.

        Life in the states has not needed advertising for a long time, but you yourself understand very well that they are in many ways No. 1.
        1. kotdavin4i
          kotdavin4i 4 August 2012 12: 22
          +7
          Well, yes, and the increase in the number of crimes, the growth of people forced to leave homes for those who are unable to pay a mortgage. the number of suicides in the army and the like is growing and will soon come first ...
          1. bachast
            bachast 4 August 2012 12: 29
            +1
            Now I’m dealing with the issue of expanding housing. My friends are connected with the auction, where they sell the arrested apartments under the hammer. That is, people can’t pay the loan and stay on the street. So I look through several options a week. And how many more are such sales .. ..
          2. Nir
            Nir 4 August 2012 12: 38
            -4
            Quote: kotdavin4i
            Well, yes, and the increase in the number of crimes, the growth of people forced to leave homes for those who are unable to pay a mortgage. the number of suicides in the army and the like is growing and will soon come first ...

            Come on, again, you heard edrobotovskoy propaganda on the central channel or what? Where did you see that on post council space the available ipetics was ah? It’s not there and it’s not necessary la la, but in the USA there are many who can afford it because of that there are people who can’t pay for it, but you can buy a house for a council post and you’ll lend a mortgage lol
            1. Churchill
              Churchill 4 August 2012 13: 18
              +13
              Nir,
              While the printing press is working, there will be a mortgage, and how it breaks then edrobotavskaya propaganda will begin.
        2. recitatorus
          recitatorus 4 August 2012 12: 35
          +13
          Quote: Nir

          Life in the states has not needed advertising for a long time, but you yourself understand very well that they are in many ways No. 1.

          And by drug addiction, and by the number of prisoners, and teenage gangs, and by weight of obesity, and by psychoanalysts, and by psychopaths, and much more by what indicators number 1.
          1. Nir
            Nir 4 August 2012 12: 42
            -4
            Quote: recitatorus
            And addiction

            Pot calls the kettle black wink
            Quote: recitatorus
            by the number of prisoners

            And compare the percentage of the Russian population of prisoners in jail R.F. lol
            continue or so it became clear?
            1. Churchill
              Churchill 4 August 2012 13: 16
              +15
              Nir,
              Yes, do not compare, all one is not in favor of America! In addition, America did not see perestroika, Gorbachev, the dashing 90s! Welfare and progress, but convicts in the gulag!
  13. Darck
    Darck 4 August 2012 10: 59
    +5
    San Francisco is probably one of the richest cities in the richest country in the world.

    Yes, this is what kills me in the Federation Council, it is a strong wild contrast, as millionaires live across the street with the poor. And against this background, the latter stand out very strongly.
    Of course, young Americans change their passions every week.

    We had such a joke, our friend somehow brought a Korean woman to my house (I think she was a Korean woman). Then we lived 5 guys in the same house. Something happened to them, he had a fight with her and a day later, she became glued to me and to one guy. We had to fight back almost by force when I asked her what you were doing? Her answer killed me, she thought that we had some kind of fraternal group and now she must go in a circle if she wants to stay with that guy. I don’t even want to know how it occurred to her, but that ..
  14. Geton
    Geton 4 August 2012 13: 46
    0
    Quote: Darck
    We had such a joke, our friend somehow brought a Korean woman to my house (I think she was a Korean woman). Then we lived 5 guys in the same house. Something happened to them, he had a fight with her and a day later, she became glued to me and to one guy. We had to fight back almost by force when I asked her what you were doing? Her answer killed me, she thought that we had some kind of fraternal group and now she must go in a circle if she wants to stay with that guy. I don’t even want to know how it occurred to her, but that ..
    It's funny
  15. serge
    serge 4 August 2012 18: 38
    +6
    Satan is their father and god, and they fulfill the lusts of their father.
    1. io_stalin
      io_stalin 4 August 2012 19: 58
      +8
      "Gospel of John 8:44.
      Your father is the devil; and you want to fulfill the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning ... ... When he says a lie, he says his for he is a liar and the father of lies.. "

      And we all need to do this: bully We are patsaki for them. They did rot, as predicted. Takshta did not have long for them ...
      1. io_stalin
        io_stalin 4 August 2012 20: 32
        +7
        And here is the bomb:

        “On July 6, 2009, at the Silver Rain radio station, MN Kozyrev interviewed Maya Soetoro-Ng, the half-sister of US President Barack Obama [62]. She said in an interview that when Barak was small and lived in Hawaii, he really liked to watch the movie “Kin-dza-dza”; this film was found in their mother’s house on an old cassette and after watching this film, Barak spoke only one word - “ku”. wassat At the same time, it should be noted that although Barack Obama, as a child, really lived in Hawaii, in 1986, when the film "Kin-dza-dza" was released, he was already 25 years old (if the film was on the "old cassette" then Obama was even older). In addition, Barack Obama moved from Hawaii to Los Angeles in 1979, that is, long before filming began. "

        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CA%E8%ED-%E4%E7%E0-%E4%E7%E0!
  16. segamegament
    segamegament 5 August 2012 05: 59
    +2
    Each nation has its own truth, and only time and history will put everything in its place. But somehow I can't believe that the "free" people have truth at all ...
  17. ka5280
    ka5280 13 December 2012 08: 48
    0
    Pri vsej mojej ne ljubvi k USA, magazini u nih prosto obaldennie! V ostalnom strana- omno!