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Czech media: Putin may outperform Soviet leaders

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Today is the final day of the popular vote on amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation. If they are accepted, Putin will gain the right to run again after his presidential term. In this case, he can become a champion among the Soviet and Russian leaders of the country of the 20th century for the duration of his reign.


The Czech edition of Aktualne discusses this topic.

Vladimir Putin has been in power in Russia for an entire era, from 2000 to 2020. True, for four years of this twenty-year term he was not the president, at this time he was replaced by Dmitry Medvedev at the post. Putin’s popularity rating during his reign reached a maximum of nearly 80 percent in 2014, when Crimea became Russian. Then it became lower, but it turned out to be enough for Vladimir Putin to win the next election in 2018 and to remain in office as president until 2024.

The adoption of the amendments will allow Putin to nullify the previous deadlines and again go to the polls from scratch. Theoretically, if he wins the election twice, he will remain in charge of the country until 2036. Then Vladimir Putin will be able to become a champion among all Soviet and Russian rulers for the duration of his stay in power. Now this record belongs to Joseph Stalin, who ruled the state for almost 30 years.
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  1. Bashkirkhan
    Bashkirkhan 1 July 2020 18: 53 New
    -16
    If only there was enough health. And unlimited connect.
    You approve the changes
    to the Constitution
    Russian Federation?
    YES | _✔_ |
    -----------------------------
    NO | ___ |
    And only so!
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 1 July 2020 18: 59 New
      13
      Czech media: Putin may outperform Soviet leaders

      This is what! We’ll put a monument to you too! yes
      1. Vend
        Vend 2 July 2020 10: 06 New
        0
        The Czechs have already forgotten everything laughing It is impossible to surpass the Soviet leaders, all of them, except Khrushchev, left posthumously posthumously, like real kings laughing
    2. Malyuta
      Malyuta 1 July 2020 19: 02 New
      -4
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      If only there was enough health. And unlimited connect.

      And how old will the former "comrade" Putin, and now Gaspadin, be in 2036?
      1. credo
        credo 1 July 2020 19: 22 New
        -12
        Quote: Malyuta
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        If only there was enough health. And unlimited connect.

        And how old will the former "comrade" Putin, and now Gaspadin, be in 2036?

        How much will it all be, we, the citizens of Russia, should not care more about the Czech view (spit on him), but about the presence of a mechanism developed in Russia for changing the country's leaders, without shocks, revolutions and fragmentation into specific principalities.
        As for age, I advise you to look at our neighbor Ukraine, where the change of heads goes from the old (Kravchuk) to the young (Zelensky) and what is the result? Yes, just awful. So age is not an obstacle to good deeds, if there is a desire and health, which is what Vladimir Vladimirovich wants.
        By the way, about the word "lord". Pay attention to the Victory Parade on June 24.06.2020, XNUMX, where VVP addressed soldiers, sergeants, and officers. “Comrades” addressed all of them, but not gentlemen, which means that he is a comrade in relation to them.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 1 July 2020 19: 30 New
          +4
          Quote: credo
          “Comrades” addressed all of them, but not gentlemen, which means that he is also a comrade in relation to them.

          Pay attention to the Victory Parade 24.06.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX

          It’s just that the comrades won the war, not the gentlemen .. but Putin and his retinue consider himself gentlemen .. but if it were otherwise, then he would not cunningly and cynically refuse socialist gains.
          How much will it all be, we, the citizens of Russia, should not care more about the Czech view (spit on him), but about the presence of a mechanism developed in Russia for changing the country's leaders, without shocks, revolutions and fragmentation into specific principalities.

          Yes, there is already this mechanism, Yeltsin worked it out .. and then it will be the same, it will pass on to whom the common fund chooses, everything will be according to the concept and as agreed ..
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 1 July 2020 19: 37 New
            -6
            Quote: Svarog
            Yes, there is already this mechanism, Yeltsin worked it out .. and then it will be the same, it will pass on to whom the common fund chooses, everything will be according to the concept and as agreed ..

            Calm down and get ready all the opposition kodla to mourning! It will not be easy for you tomorrow!
            Well, minus it! I catch ... drinks
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 1 July 2020 21: 36 New
              +7
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Well, minus it! Catching

              I put a plus.
            2. strelokmira
              strelokmira 1 July 2020 21: 58 New
              13
              It will not be easy for you tomorrow!

              We’ve got used to it in 30 years ... So I didn’t surprise
            3. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 2 July 2020 04: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Well, minus it! I catch ...

              Hold on ... drinks
            4. Prisoner
              Prisoner 2 July 2020 16: 52 New
              +1
              Wait! Scattered. hi A plus.
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 1 July 2020 21: 34 New
            +2
            Quote: Svarog
            Yes, there is already this mechanism, Yeltsin worked it out.

            But first they processed Yeltsin.
            1. dauria
              dauria 1 July 2020 22: 26 New
              14
              But first they processed Yeltsin.


              Yes, Putin against the backdrop of Yeltsin is a limp pawn. With his teeth and elbows, Yeltsin struck his own path, a wolf. Next to him, his entire pack only assented and rejoiced, but did not control him. The eccentric was a goose, with character. And Putin, from a breed of quiet, good guys, does what he is told. Yes, and his fast-moving figure sheds quickly. What will remain in history? Screen oligarchy of the troubled times of Russia.
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 1 July 2020 22: 49 New
                +3
                Quote: dauria
                Screen oligarchy of the troubled times of Russia.

                You just +100500, Comrade!
              2. Victorio
                Victorio 1 July 2020 23: 25 New
                0
                Quote: dauria
                With his teeth and elbows, Yeltsin struck his own path, a wolf. Next to him, his entire pack only assented and rejoiced, but did not control him.

                ===
                Of his necessary and useful deeds, only Putin’s appointment was remembered, and so he would be the grave digger of both the USSR and the Russian Federation.
        2. Malyuta
          Malyuta 1 July 2020 19: 35 New
          +7
          Quote: credo
          How much will it all be, we, the citizens of Russia, should not care more about the Czech view (spit on him), but about the presence of a mechanism developed in Russia for changing the country's leaders, without shocks, revolutions and fragmentation into specific principalities.

          Well, yes, two crises have flashed in Russia for 20 years and now something completely incomprehensible, but apparently it will be abruptly.
          Are you suggesting another 16 years to "see" what the mutinsky stabilizer looks like? belay
          Quote: credo
          As for age, I advise you to look at our neighbor Ukraine, where the change of heads goes from the old (Kravchuk) to the young (Zelensky) and what is the result?

          And let's not look at the outskirts (Ukraine is already sick of the topic), although they are trying to try to change something.
          Quote: credo
          and by the way, about the word "lord". Pay attention to the Victory Parade on June 24.06.2020, XNUMX, where VVP addressed soldiers, sergeants, officers. “Comrades” addressed all of them, but not gentlemen, which means that he is a comrade in relation to them.

          That is, he addressed his subjects as "creatures", and they addressed him as "gaspadin president"?
          You, crustobudochniks, constantly do not "beat", if the prezikident is "gaspadin", and if the commander-in-chief, so "comrade". So you take off or take off a cross, put on any panties, otherwise you look too wild. belay
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 1 July 2020 19: 50 New
            +6
            Quote: Malyuta
            That is, he addressed his subjects as "creatures", and they addressed him as "gaspadin president"?
            You, crustobudochniks, constantly do not "beat", if the prezikident is "gaspadin", and if the commander-in-chief, so "comrade". So you take off or take off a cross, put on any panties, otherwise you look too wild.

            good So this game is around .. and lately it’s growing in some way .. Where do you not spit everywhere the pattern break .. Here it turns out they are without port and with a cross ..
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 1 July 2020 21: 44 New
              +4
              Quote: Svarog
              . Here and it turns out they are without port and with a cross ..

              And they all have one thing: party cards, crosses, underpants, women, loans, kickbacks, cuts, pah, damn it!
        3. Kaetani
          Kaetani 1 July 2020 21: 21 New
          11
          In vain they minus. Absolutely correct remark " and the presence of a mechanism developed in Russia for changing leaders of the country, without upheavals, revolutions and fragmentation into specific principalities."
        4. Alexey from Perm
          Alexey from Perm 1 July 2020 22: 22 New
          -6
          write again, I won’t even argue, they’ll laugh purely
        5. Roman123567
          Roman123567 2 July 2020 08: 31 New
          +2
          the presence of a mechanism for changing the country's leaders developed in Russia

          Here Putin will play in a box - then maybe it will be possible to start working out a mechanism for changing leaders ..
          In the meantime, power is seized and held by the dictatorship - this can only be argued ..
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          2. Goscha
            Goscha 3 July 2020 09: 53 New
            0
            In the meantime, power is seized and held by dictatorship - we can only talk about it
            So the fact of the matter is that power is seized and held by the dictatorship, well, let there be Russian oligarchs, who will nominate the next zits - chairman. They will not allow anyone from the side to power. So it's a dead end.
      2. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 1 July 2020 19: 31 New
        -15
        and now the gaspadin

        Unlike you, he is a hard worker.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 1 July 2020 19: 54 New
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          Quote: Interlocutor
          and now the gaspadin

          Unlike you, he is a hard worker.

          In the galleys? laughing
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 2 July 2020 04: 11 New
          +1
          Quote: Interlocutor
          Unlike you, he is a hard worker.

          Everything rows and rows, and the boyars throw anchors, and rest with their hands and feet. crying
      3. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
        Aleksey Aleksandrovich 1 July 2020 22: 41 New
        -3
        Well, sho, tavarish baby, it's time for you to kill yourself up the wall with longing. Again the people disappointed, not that people. In your meme slang "ZERO" is still the darkest)))
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 2 July 2020 04: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
          Again the people let us down, not that people then.

          I even wanted to show consciousness, to send my voice to the ballot box. But when I heard that there already on the threshold temperature is measured with pressure, I quietly matyuknul, and went ... Where far away, from the polling station ...
          1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
            Aleksey Aleksandrovich 2 July 2020 04: 25 New
            +2
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            But I heard that there already at the threshold temperature is measured with pressure


            And what confused you? I put my wrist under the device for a couple of seconds and go do your civic duty.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 2 July 2020 04: 29 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
              And what confused you?

              All. Poke a thermometer under your arm, measure pressure, put on gloves and a muzzle - and you are a reasonable person? Yes, you go to hell with your gadgets. By the way, what kind of civic duty?
              1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
                Aleksey Aleksandrovich 2 July 2020 04: 40 New
                +1
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Poke a thermometer under your arm, measure pressure, put on gloves and a muzzle - and you are a reasonable person?


                The thermometer is not mercury but electronic, in order to measure the temperature it takes a second, no more. Nobody forced pressure to measure, at least for us. Handling and putting on a mask is not a problem. In general, whoever wanted it voted.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 2 July 2020 04: 46 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
                  In general, whoever wanted it voted.

                  I initially had an hesitant stance on this clowning. But here it is: a measure of temperature, pressure, putting on a muzzle and gloves, I finished off completely. So he did not go, and did not vote. And I don’t see any debt for myself.
                  1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
                    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 2 July 2020 04: 47 New
                    0
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    So he did not go, and did not vote.


                    Your right.
                  2. sniperino
                    sniperino 2 July 2020 11: 01 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    I initially had an hesitant stance on this clowning
                    Soul throwing discerning clown? Ordinary people - not professionals - usually refuse to participate in clowning without hesitation.
    3. Stalllker
      Stalllker 1 July 2020 19: 05 New
      11
      At the expense of health I agree, he is no longer a "boy". But what does the second part of your "message" have to do with it?
    4. Finches
      Finches 1 July 2020 19: 11 New
      -11
      Personally, I do not mind that he would have surpassed Ivan the Terrible in terms of rule and, with age and experience, I understand that the creation of the oprichnina then benefited the Russian state ... And entering into polemics on VO with children from the liberal-national-treacherous camp with their tolerant - "humanistic" alleged views, I fully approve of the punitive decisions of Joseph Vissarionovich!
      1. Deniska999
        Deniska999 1 July 2020 19: 15 New
        +9
        And about those 30% who voted against, we will write as enemies and will we clean it out?
        1. Finches
          Finches 1 July 2020 19: 15 New
          -11
          Something does not suit you?
        2. Bashkirkhan
          Bashkirkhan 1 July 2020 19: 25 New
          13
          Quote: Deniska999
          voted against

          Voting in Russia does not affect the result. In this case, moreover, this is not a referendum. Therefore, no one will pursue anyone.
          As in a joke. “Once Peter I went to Europe. He returned, summoned the boyars for a briefing and said:
          - Well, citizens, the boyars! I was in Europe and I saw there, you panim,
          such a thing - port!
          Boyars:
          - And what is this?
          Peter:
          - Well, it's like our mash, but it’s tastier and the head doesn’t hurt in the morning.
          The boyars are noisy, stunned:
          - Take the port! Take the port!
          Then Peter says further:
          - And I saw a thing there - a condom is called!
          Boyars:
          “And what else?”
          Peter:
          - Well, when you admire your noblewoman, she does not fly.
          Boyars:
          - Oh, take the condoms!
          Peter:
          - There is a problem. You can bring either port or condoms,
          but not both.
          There was a fuss, a fight, the boyars were cursing, some want port,
          other condoms. Peter got up and said:
          - And in Europe there is such a thing as voting!
          Then one of the boyars shouts:
          - Right! As we popped naked, we will pop - WEIGHT PORTWAY!
        3. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 1 July 2020 19: 25 New
          -7
          Quote: Deniska999
          And about those 30% who voted against, we will write as enemies and will we clean it out?

          And what? Do you need to build a northern latitudinal railway? It is necessary ... to master the NSR ... Yes, the road Moscow Kazan, finally! For 4 years. tongue
          But seriously, the majority of those who voted "against" could not say anything except slogans from the Internet. But those who are "for" quite sanely explained their position ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 1 July 2020 19: 45 New
            +9
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            But seriously, the majority of those who voted "against" could not say anything,

            Standard error ... confidence only in the rightness.
            This has already been tried, more than once, only those who are absolutely right and those who are for them remain !!!
            Find, show at least ONE example of a successful, long existence of such a community ???
          2. Doliva63
            Doliva63 1 July 2020 19: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Quote: Deniska999
            And about those 30% who voted against, we will write as enemies and will we clean it out?

            And what? Do you need to build a northern latitudinal railway? It is necessary ... to master the NSR ... Yes, the road Moscow Kazan, finally! For 4 years. tongue
            But seriously, the majority of those who voted "against" could not say anything except slogans from the Internet. But those who are "for" quite sanely explained their position ...

            These "sane positions" were well paid. Such as. Artemy Troitsky, who very much regretted participating in this PR.
            1. syndicalist
              syndicalist 1 July 2020 21: 07 New
              +2
              Quote: Doliva63
              Such as. Artemy Troitsky,

              Trinity is not to be attributed here. He was always against the voting circus.
              You probably meant Artemy Lebedev, who really doesn't care about his political position, just to pay.
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 2 July 2020 17: 11 New
                0
                Quote: syndicalist
                Quote: Doliva63
                Such as. Artemy Troitsky,

                Trinity is not to be attributed here. He was always against the voting circus.
                You probably meant Artemy Lebedev, who really doesn't care about his political position, just to pay.

                Maybe in the car I listened to the radio halfway laughing
            2. Kaetani
              Kaetani 1 July 2020 21: 23 New
              +8
              You might think people from the screens broadcast for free that one should be "against"
              1. Roman123567
                Roman123567 2 July 2020 08: 40 New
                +3
                From the screens (and from the shawls throughout the city) they broadcast only about ZA ..
                Of course. Not for free..
          3. U-58
            U-58 1 July 2020 20: 07 New
            -12
            Wow, how insightful you are! We cut through all at once. Strong, Guess!
            Himself not ashamed to write this ?.
            Or write by virtue of job description and for salary?
          4. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 2 July 2020 05: 01 New
            +3
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Yes, the road Moscow Kazan, finally! For 4 years.

            They promised to build her for the World Cup. And where is she? Maybe in the same place where Putin threw his boilers for a million into concrete?
          5. Roman123567
            Roman123567 2 July 2020 08: 39 New
            +2
            the majority of those who voted "against" could not say anything but slogans from the Internet. But those who are "for" quite sanely explained their position ...
            That's just the exact opposite ..))
            The delusionality of all these amendments was signed more than once by whole articles, sorted by shelves .. but no one could clearly explain their need ..
        4. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 1 July 2020 19: 32 New
          -6
          and will we clean it out?

          And what do you see, that someone is being cleaned. Personally, I see that flirting ...
        5. Stalllker
          Stalllker 1 July 2020 21: 45 New
          -7
          Why, they themselves die out, they leave themselves
        6. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
          Aleksey Aleksandrovich 1 July 2020 22: 44 New
          +1
          Have you reached such nonsense with your mind?
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 1 July 2020 19: 31 New
        13
        with the kids from the liberal-national-treacherous camp with their tolerant "humanistic" alleged views, I fully approve of the punitive decisions of Joseph Vissarionovich!
        Your last name is not Petrosyan for an hour? Putin has repeatedly called himself a liberal. Putin's Nabiullina continues to buy treasuries. If you are such a lover of Putin, you should also love Yeltsin, Solzhenitsyn. Just hate Stalin. After all, Putin called Stalin a dad. and Soviet orders for the Great Patriotic War with badges.
        1. Finches
          Finches 1 July 2020 19: 38 New
          -3
          I have not heard such statements about Stalin and badges, I have heard about a liberal ... but Joseph Vissarionovich did not immediately become Joseph Vissarionovich, who went down in history - he made alliances with Trotsky, and with Zinoviev-Bukharin, in order to overcome Trotsky .. .So, my friend, learn the history of political collisions ... The main thing is the facts! Which you, using in your nickname, apparently, a hint of Solzhenitsyn's "Red Wheel", you do not want to see ... But I find it funny to read your attempts! laughing
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 1 July 2020 20: 24 New
            +4
            I have not heard such statements

            1. Finches
              Finches 1 July 2020 20: 55 New
              -4
              Do you also have bad humor? To be honest, it’s a misfortune-sadness ... Sorry if I offended you somewhere! hi
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 1 July 2020 21: 22 New
                +5
                bad with humor?
                What can we say about Putin’s grandfather?
                1. Finches
                  Finches 1 July 2020 21: 33 New
                  -3
                  Come on! Who does not give you ... But at the time of Joseph Vissarionovich, it would hardly get away with it! Yes, I think you wouldn’t even try ... laughing
          2. Malyuta
            Malyuta 1 July 2020 21: 41 New
            +3
            Quote: Finches
            but Joseph Vissarionovich didn’t immediately become Joseph Vissarionovich, who went down in history - he made alliances with Trotsky and Bukharin with Zinoviev to overcome Trotsky ... So, my friend, learn the history of political conflicts ..

            I am very sorry hi , colleague, but along with cognition, you also have "the most recent history" wassat
            Cat from home, mouse to dance laughing The wife is in the country, I suppose, or vice versa, you are our gray-winged traveler laughing laughing laughing
            Threat. What school did you graduate from? political workers?
            1. Finches
              Finches 1 July 2020 21: 43 New
              0
              Kemerovo Higher Military Command School of Communications named after Marshal of the Signal Corps Peresypkin Ivan Terentyevich!
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 1 July 2020 22: 11 New
                +2
                Quote: Finches
                Kemerovo Higher Military Command School of Communications named after Marshal of the Signal Corps Peresypkin Ivan Terentyevich!

                I think that it’s honorable for you, why don’t you come to Kemerovo’s homeland? Or do you hate to provide a homeland with a connection?
                Although kaneshno, it is better to drink your brandy in St. Petersburg to the bottom than to return to your small homeland, right, citizen is a messenger?
                Threat. But what are you a citizen, did not go to fight with the Chen? Was it dumb? And so they would have shown themselves to the fullest, otherwise your ingenious connection there was just not enough !!! am
                Well, on Nevsky, the dexterous epaulets are growing.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 1 July 2020 22: 16 New
                  0
                  I did not go and did not return! On Nevsky it’s not so, but on the Arbat, where he also visited, the floor is slippery .... What prevents me from respecting GDP?
                  1. Malyuta
                    Malyuta 1 July 2020 22: 37 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Finches
                    I did not go and did not return! On Nevsky it’s not so, but on the Arbat, where he also visited, the floor is slippery .... What prevents me from respecting GDP?

                    But many went and did not return ... But you don’t give a damn about it, you’re a handsome guy from Putin, ring medals. Here are Shendakov’s colonel's shoulder straps closer to me, Barabash, again, as an officer, and you’re so .., do not pinch, "Duc not me, and these comrades will ask you at the court of officer's honor, or do you not know this?
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 1 July 2020 22: 39 New
                      -2
                      So ask who is bothering you - and don't just call!
                      1. Malyuta
                        Malyuta 1 July 2020 22: 55 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Finches
                        so ask who is bothering you - and don't just call!

                        Of course they will ask, don’t even worry, they will ask the dead and the living for you, for who and where sold or drank the officer’s honor, and from your boss, they’ll double-ask him for the headquarters in Dresden!
                      2. Finches
                        Finches 1 July 2020 23: 01 New
                        +1
                        Will you ask or who else? I’m just wondering - who are the judges? You probably ate more than one pound of salt - you commanded a platoon, company, battalion ... They went on the attack in Square Minute. If so, then with pleasure and respect I will accept your point of view, and if not, then here too!
                      3. Malyuta
                        Malyuta 1 July 2020 23: 08 New
                        0
                        Quote: Finches
                        Will you ask or who else? I’m just wondering - who are the judges?

                        People like him will ask you
                      4. Finches
                        Finches 1 July 2020 23: 12 New
                        0
                        Well, so he asks! And what have you got to do with it?
                      5. Malyuta
                        Malyuta 1 July 2020 23: 42 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Finches
                        Well, so he asks! And what have you got to do with it?

                        And here we are at the same time, All Happy Memorial Day, Boys !!!
                      6. Finches
                        Finches 2 July 2020 06: 11 New
                        -1
                        Well, Anika the warrior, they mixed everything together: blood, g ...., sand and sugar! laughing
  • Svarog
    Svarog 1 July 2020 19: 53 New
    +8
    Quote: Gardamir
    Your last name is not Petrosyan for an hour?

    Yevgeny’s position is very strange, something reminiscent of the Jewish one .. He often cites Stalin as an example and his approach .. while supporting nepotism, corruption, oligarchy .. In general, as above comrade Malyuta noted, Eugene is without underwear, but a cross kisses ..
    1. Finches
      Finches 1 July 2020 19: 56 New
      -3
      Life is a tricky thing! But to criticize, you don’t have to mind a lot - likes and pluses you will earn on this, but it’s better not to live!
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        1. Finches
          Finches 1 July 2020 20: 33 New
          -1
          What exactly did you want to say?
          1. Arlen
            Arlen 1 July 2020 20: 36 New
            10
            Except that he said nothing more. Well, I also liked the quote below from your comment.
            Quote: Finches
            entering into polemics on VO with the kids from the liberal-national-treacherous camp with their tolerantly "humanistic" alleged views, I fully approve of the punitive decisions of Joseph Vissarionovich!

            Well done. I fully support these punitive measures against liberals and nationalists.
            1. Finches
              Finches 1 July 2020 20: 53 New
              -2
              Well, nice! hi
              1. Arlen
                Arlen 1 July 2020 21: 02 New
                18
                Of course, nice. The main thing is to remove all liberals and nationalists from power and begin to build Soviet power, which will lead our country out of the crisis. hi
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 1 July 2020 20: 26 New
        0
        Quote: Finches
        Life is a tricky thing! But to criticize, you don’t have to mind a lot - likes and pluses you will earn on this, but it’s better not to live!

        There will be more truth, life will be better .. Do you not notice that there is a lie around? She's just everywhere now ..
        1. Finches
          Finches 1 July 2020 20: 34 New
          -6
          I apologize - no! Apparently I'm not very attentive!
        2. poquello
          poquello 1 July 2020 21: 46 New
          +1
          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: Finches
          Life is a tricky thing! But to criticize, you don’t have to mind a lot - likes and pluses you will earn on this, but it’s better not to live!

          There will be more truth, life will be better .. Do you not notice that there is a lie around? She's just everywhere now ..

          so you are for publicity, therefore) it is necessary to rebuild
      3. Malyuta
        Malyuta 1 July 2020 22: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        But to criticize, you don’t have to mind a lot - likes and pluses you will earn on this, but it’s better not to live!

        I am very sorry, but enough already to drive !!! What kind of loot do you ask for? What are you eating horse meat for now? Do you offer us to hobble your shobla to you? Danunafik, I am against!
        1. Finches
          Finches 1 July 2020 22: 55 New
          -4
          Do not slander! Spit on everything and sit back!
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 July 2020 20: 17 New
    +4
    Quote: Gardamir
    Nabiullina continues to purchase treasury

    And how much did you buy in the last year? Traders? Well, just take an interest ... for a long time all stocks were liquidated almost to zero! Open the Central Bank website. Everything is there. And "burned" gold reserves, which in spite of nothing "burned", and Traders - how much and when, and gold, which was bought at record rates, while it was cheaper ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 1 July 2020 19: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: Finches
    creation of the oprichnina then went to the Russian state for the good ..

    Each special measure should be at the right time, in the right place, in the right amount .... only when it is really necessary!
    Not at the right time, not there, overly .... there could be more harm than good from it!
    1. Finches
      Finches 1 July 2020 19: 43 New
      +4
      This is all philosophy, of course ... Guessing this time is the talent of the head of state!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 1 July 2020 19: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        This is all philosophy, of course ... Guessing this time is the talent of the head of state!

        Such leaders are RARE.
        1. Finches
          Finches 1 July 2020 19: 59 New
          -7
          That’s why I support GDP - I have had enough in this life - Andropov, who died without having done anything good, but attracted Gorbachev to the Politburo, Chernenko, who ruled the country without regaining consciousness, Gorbachev and Yeltsin - the country of those who buried! How much of that life is left, but the GDP is all right, albeit with errors, but it does!
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 1 July 2020 20: 16 New
            -2
            I don’t care, in general, but he is the best thing that happened in that SYSTEM, which I do not accept at all.
            For each top leader, you need to put the scales and weigh EVERYTHING !!!
            GDP has a better balance in relation to all the previous ones .... but, it is not from the system that for me.
            1. Finches
              Finches 1 July 2020 20: 20 New
              +2
              This is a given! And I wrote about this many times - that the best enemy of the good and the change of places of the terms does not change! Therefore, GDP today is the best option - someone might be better, someone would ditch the country again ... Personally, I do not want to experiment! But there is no leader capable of leading a people like Lenin in October, and there is no unity among the people ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 1 July 2020 20: 33 New
                +3
                Quote: Finches
                But there is no leader capable of leading a people like Lenin in October, and there is no unity among the people ...

                This is yes, neither the leader, nor unity and NOBODY wants to take on the tedious, difficult, dangerous work of organizing something national and creative. Moreover, it is unlikely to be appreciated later
                1. Finches
                  Finches 1 July 2020 20: 44 New
                  0
                  Absolutely right! You know, at some dashing time when the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers did not replace the chutli with the Ministry of Defense, I came to meet the local ataman of this committee - a portly woman is sitting, leaning on a chic neckline in a gold frame on an oak table, fingers in rings and nothing more than saying, that I don’t know how to command a battalion ... I didn’t even argue - I offered her to change places ... Refused, for some reason !? laughing
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 1 July 2020 20: 50 New
                    0
                    To teach, criticize, show off in front of the public .... to send to the barricades, we have plenty of such people! And to take a shovel and rake d d d Avgiev's stables, here they are immediately in a hurry somewhere, give revealing interior views, as a rule.
                    In general, not Hercules, for such feats they can not be lured.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 2 July 2020 05: 12 New
            0
            Quote: Finches
            but GDP is correct, albeit with errors, but it does!

            Heh, I just the other day argued on this issue with two officers. When they ran out of arguments for Putin, they both cried out: "Vovan, you don't understand anything ..."
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 1 July 2020 19: 42 New
    +5
    Quote: Finches
    And entering into polemics on VO with children from the liberal-national-treacherous camp with their tolerantly "humanistic" alleged views, I fully approve of the punitive decisions of Joseph Vissarionovich!

    Your boss is also far from Comrade Stalin, how the SEWERAGE from the CHANNEL!
    Shl. How do you zaputintsy love to hype at the expense of Stalin's name and how can love for Stalin and devotion to Putin get into your "heads"? Some hot nonsense!
    1. Finches
      Finches 1 July 2020 19: 45 New
      -1
      Do you have a boss, may I be curious? or you adhere to the credo of an intelligent locksmith with a secondary education Polesov from "12 chairs" - "Always!" laughing
      Iosifa Vissarionovich, I respected, long before Putin, when you, if you are suitable for your age, were terribly hated by being in the kitchen party for the interests of Khrushchev-Solzhenitsyn-Sakharov-Bonner-Novodvorskaya-Yakovlev-Gorbachev ... laughing
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 1 July 2020 20: 04 New
        +6
        Quote: Finches
        Do you have a chef, let me curiosity?

        Nah, I don't have hi
        Quote: Finches
        Iosifa Vissarionovich, I respected, long before Putin, when you, if you are suitable for your age, you might have been terribly hated by being in the party in the interests of Khrushchev-Solzhenitsyn-Sakharov ...

        Well, let’s say, I’m born in 68, I wasn’t a member of the parties, I am a member of the Komsomol and I respect Stalin and despise Putin, but in your head everything is a little different, Putin pays money to the state employee + benefits and for that you love him , fearing that your conditional "new" (the same Stalinists, for example) will take something away or deprive something, that's all your political credo, "the backside is warm, money is flesh, well, Stalin, and what about Stalin , I will love him ahead of everyone, otherwise you never know what. " laughing laughing wink
        1. Finches
          Finches 1 July 2020 20: 07 New
          -3
          I earned my budget in the army - having gone from a rank-and-file soldier of military service to commanding a separate military unit - so I'm afraid of nothing and no one! I have my own position reinforced by life experience - and I'm not going to change it!
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 1 July 2020 20: 20 New
            +3
            Quote: Finches
            I have my own position reinforced by life experience - and I'm not going to change it!

            Well, tell the story on the hanger your pro-Putin bourgeois life position, but on the contrary put a portrait of Stalin, sit between them, drink cognac (as long as you have) and enjoy the state of cognitive dissonance wassat
            1. Finches
              Finches 1 July 2020 20: 23 New
              -2
              This is exactly what I am doing - having great pleasure! Only it became interesting - what are you doing? In the underground you print leaflets, are engaged in expropriations ... How do you fight the "bloody regime" except that you actively oppose me here? laughing
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 1 July 2020 21: 58 New
                +1
                Quote: Finches
                I’m doing just that.

                That’s nice, drink while you eat, and then, as an important specialist and competent teacher, we will order, for you, by order, send from Leningrad to Ussuriysk to establish communication facilities there and you will guard our Great Homeland there at distant frontiers.
                Threat. About the army, I’m a little aware, if that wink But about your provence from political schools, Duc exactly yes
                1. Finches
                  Finches 1 July 2020 22: 31 New
                  -1
                  I started with ZabVO - I have to go to Ussuriysk too! Eco is not seen ... You, most importantly, get to power! laughing
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 1 July 2020 21: 28 New
        +1
        Joseph Vissarionovich, I respected, long before Putin,
        You are definitely a comedian. No need to invent anything. Putin loves Solzhenitsyn, Bonner Or did he set a monument to Solzhenitsyn out of hatred? And I realized that Trump is hurting.
        1. Finches
          Finches 1 July 2020 21: 35 New
          -3
          I repeat, especially for you - life is a difficult thing! He would have suited you if he would have sent you to Solovki for criticism?
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 1 July 2020 19: 57 New
      0
      Quote: Malyuta
      How do you zaputintsy like to hype at the expense of Stalin's name and how can love for Stalin and loyalty to Putin get into your "heads"? What hot delirium!

      They have a teacher ... it’s true that for some reason the mausoleum is boarded up and they try not to show the portrait of Stalin once again. Even Volgograd, according to the vote, the inhabitants overwhelmingly wanted to name Stalingrad, but they are afraid .. even the shadow is afraid of it ..
      1. Finches
        Finches 1 July 2020 20: 03 New
        -1
        Vladimir - the head should be not only in order to wear a cap and it is there - it’s not only Putin’s matter, however, your position is obvious to me with its complete absence! laughing
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 1 July 2020 20: 13 New
          +6
          Quote: Finches
          the point is not only in Putin, however, your position is vivid for me in its complete absence!

          My position is simple. I judge a person by the result .. We all know the results of his activities and they don’t suit me at all .. everything else is speculation, conspiracy theology and so on ..
          But even, so to speak in soiled trousers ... a person remodels the Constitution for himself .. arrogantly cynical, using arguments unprecedented in his stupidity .. like against gays, for animals .. for indexing a pension (which you can’t live to see) and other nonsense, which did not need to be pushed into the Constitution ..
          So with my position everything is extremely clear. But I can’t understand you. When you write about the imperial ambitions of Russia, about Ukraine .. I completely agree with you, but Putin does not agree with you, he has different views, and you are for Putin .. In short, you are incomprehensible ..
          1. Finches
            Finches 1 July 2020 20: 15 New
            +1
            Weird! And I judge by the results - you, apparently, in the 90s under Yeltsin did not starve, did not participate in constant hostilities in Russia, for six months did not receive money allowance ... Kucheryava probably lived!
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 1 July 2020 20: 21 New
              +4
              Quote: Finches
              Weird! And I judge by the results - you, apparently, in the 90s under Yeltsin

              Listen. The 90s first was 30 years ago and for the first time I was an ardent supporter of Putin .. Now there is no result. And this is a fact, more precisely, it is negative. So it's time to leave. But instead of leaving, he waved for life.
              And finally .. The 90s are very close .. Let us return to this conversation by the fall, even then you will feel the breath of the 90s ..
              1. Finches
                Finches 1 July 2020 20: 27 New
                0
                Apparently, you still do not fully evaluate the situation objectively - but God bless you - consider what you think is necessary (I apologize for the tautology), but I will remain with my opinion! hi
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 1 July 2020 21: 55 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Finches
                  You, apparently, still do not fully evaluate the situation objectively - but God bless you

                  Eugene, I’m trying to hear from you how you assess the situation. Do you have any comments that are one to one similar to my views. But here in Putin, we seriously disagree. And this is not the first time I'm trying to understand your position. But you do not answer anything reasoned. I won’t bother anymore .. but in my opinion, you yourself are not sure about what to write about .. hi
                  1. Finches
                    Finches 1 July 2020 21: 59 New
                    -1
                    hi But why not - it is very simple - I respect GDP, this respect stretches from the difficult years of 1999 - 2000, and it suits me! There are some roughnesses associated with Serdyukov, somewhere with Shoigu ... but these are technical points! He is not an army man - he saw the army only in pictures ... These technical moments, as I call them, for me, a personnel officer, come into disagreement with other decisions of the GDP in some places, but I don’t see an alternative to him - that’s the question ! But I understand very well that I understand very little in civilian life - in short, you need to expand your horizons in different areas of human activity, and not jump on the top! And Putin, though not a woman, but I like it! laughing
                  2. 2 Level Advisor
                    2 Level Advisor 2 July 2020 07: 42 New
                    0
                    Eugene, I would like to clarify, do you think that as soon as Putin "grunts" Russia and the end, there is no one to replace and the 90s and collapse will immediately begin?
                  3. Finches
                    Finches 2 July 2020 08: 27 New
                    -2
                    Not. Nothing will happen to Russia, however, I know several cases from the history of our country when, after the death of a strong, charismatic leader, people came who brought the state into tar, tarara ....
  • Finches
    Finches 1 July 2020 19: 54 New
    0
    Minusaki - rave! And then the people adopted the Constitution! laughing
    1. Samara_63
      Samara_63 1 July 2020 20: 07 New
      +4
      The people and for the preservation of the USSR voted! Where is the USSR?
      1. Finches
        Finches 1 July 2020 20: 09 New
        -6
        Believe me - unlike the example you cited - changes to the Constitution will not be ignored! laughing
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 1 July 2020 21: 12 New
          +6
          Quote: Finches
          Believe me - unlike the example you cited - changes to the Constitution will not be ignored!

          Believe me, in a year or two, this situation will be thrown into the dustbin of history.
          1. Finches
            Finches 1 July 2020 21: 32 New
            -1
            I apologize - you, the prophetic Cassandra? Remember Vladimir Semenovich:

            Long Troy in a siege position
            Remained an impregnable stronghold
            But the Trojans did not believe Cassandra -
            Troy, perhaps, would have been used to this day.
      2. Simon
        Simon 1 July 2020 20: 49 New
        -5
        Ask Garbachev and Yeltsin! Putin has nothing to do with it.
      3. poquello
        poquello 1 July 2020 22: 00 New
        0
        Quote: Samara_63
        The people and for the preservation of the USSR voted! Where is the USSR?

        March 17, 91 people voted for the USSR,
        On August 17, 91, a meeting of future members of the Emergency Committee was held at the "ABC" facility - the closed guest residence of the KGB. It was decided to introduce a state of emergency from August 19 (Information source - Portal Istoriya.RF, https://histrf.ru/lenta-vremeni/event/view/gkchp)
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 1 July 2020 20: 26 New
      +8
      Quote: Finches
      And then the people adopted the Constitution!

      Once the people and serfdom accepted.
      1. Finches
        Finches 1 July 2020 20: 32 New
        -2
        And he was not even thrilled when it was canceled!
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 1 July 2020 20: 40 New
          +4
          So fixable, though. Moreover, the first step has been taken. The king and the boyars are ready.
          1. Finches
            Finches 1 July 2020 20: 48 New
            -8
            Personally, I am "For!" All the more so, if we start from the decree of Peter Alekseevich of 1720, which ordered all chief officers who did not come from the nobility to issue patents for the title of nobility and consider all their offspring as nobles. ... I'm really here in + - as they say for 25 years, no complaints! laughing
            1. Karabin
              Karabin 1 July 2020 20: 58 New
              +7
              Quote: Finches
              Personally, I am "For!"

              Well, if as a gentleman, then everyone agrees. wink And if a serf and chief officer is not a ride?
              1. Finches
                Finches 1 July 2020 20: 59 New
                -6
                So then you do not draw inappropriate analogies!
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 1 July 2020 19: 30 New
    +4
    And why are these media poking snouts in our internal affairs? Or nothing to say, for example, upon the demolition of the Konev monument?
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 1 July 2020 19: 38 New
      -5
      Quote: Thrifty
      And why are these media poking snouts in our internal affairs?

      Why don’t they stick their nose into the Britons? They have a queen of 67 years running the state. And she has more power than our president.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 1 July 2020 21: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: Sergey39
        They have a queen of 67 years running the state.

        and does the queen have real power?
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 1 July 2020 21: 28 New
          -2
          There is no power, but it has influence.
        2. Sergey39
          Sergey39 2 July 2020 00: 07 New
          -1
          Quote: Overlock
          and does the queen have real power?

          The queen has real power. There is not even a constitution over it. Another thing is that it expresses the interests of the London financial elite, from which everything has been seized, including the British government. Therefore, it practically does not interfere with the leadership of the state. Everything goes along the beaten track for centuries.
      2. AUL
        AUL 1 July 2020 21: 11 New
        +3
        Quote: Sergey39
        They have a queen of 67 years running the state. And she has more power than our president.

        In Britain, the queen (king) reigns, but does not rule. Just a tradition.
        1. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 2 July 2020 07: 47 New
          -1
          You are wrong, she has more than enough powers, not one president has so much, everything is as the monarch should be, and if she officially looks like she’s not going anywhere, it’s because before any serious decision, her opinion first they ask. I used to think like you did, then delved into the question.
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 1 July 2020 22: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Sergey39
        Quote: Thrifty
        And why are these media poking snouts in our internal affairs?

        Why don’t they stick their nose into the Britons? They have a queen of 67 years running the state. And she has more power than our president.
        Yes, they and Merkel, who rubs four consecutive terms in the Chancellor, does not raise questions, but Russian affairs do not let the poor fellows go day or night.
  • Civil
    Civil 1 July 2020 19: 32 New
    +7
    No wonder, usually in "banana" republics trading in resources, the rulers are lifelong. As usual.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 1 July 2020 19: 02 New
    13
    Now this record belongs to Joseph Stalin, who ruled the state for almost 30 years.

    Judging by the results of Stalin’s reign, a miracle can be done in 30 years .. but for 30 years, a miracle didn’t happen to us ..
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 1 July 2020 19: 31 New
      0
      Quote: Svarog
      ..and in our country for 30 years a miracle didn’t happen ..

      The miracle was worth a lot of pain and blood ... do you really want to get a miracle just SO? I'm not talking about the war. Dekulakization, industrialization, "purges", and after the war reconstruction, a nuclear program, a missile program ... An enormous strain of the forces of the people ... The acceleration was good, even Khrushch did not derail ...
      1. tatra
        tatra 1 July 2020 19: 39 New
        +5
        Yes, those who, at the cost of the enormous supermortality of the Russian people, ruined all sectors of the country after their capture of Russia, are very fond of saying "industrialization, at what cost." "Victory, at what cost?"
        Finally, this "correctional infidelity" has ended, and I hope that Putin's paid propagandists will give them at least a little rest from their inculcation of anger, hatred, rudeness, insults
        1. U-58
          U-58 1 July 2020 20: 13 New
          +8
          You're right. For money is formed exclusively in the sphere of material production.
          But capital is often made out of thin air. This is the path of development - the ideal of the liberal Putin camarilla
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 1 July 2020 19: 45 New
        +8
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        The miracle was worth a lot of pain and blood ... do you really want to get the miracle SO?

        There is a big difference, they let the blood in the main elite .. and now people, as they say, feel the difference. And again, at what time it was .. civil, Finnish, domestic .. all around wanting to pull Russia away .. Harsh times require a decisive approach. What about today's time ... then there’s no way to even compare, greenhouse conditions compared to those times .. and in these greenhouse conditions did Putin punish anyone at least? Someone was responsible for disrupting programs, orders? And for the theft, Serdyukov for example? But there is no nepotism with him? Complete irresponsibility ..
        . A huge tension of the forces of the people ... Acceleration gave a good, even Khrushchev did not derail ...

        Even liberals still use that acceleration, not like Khrushchev ..
        And the tension was primarily in the leadership, and not the people .. The responsibility was, therefore things were going on .. When my grandfather found out that I was working in a leadership position .. he told me, but they often offered me .. but refused I .. they say it’s dangerous, it’s a great responsibility .. under Stalin, it was just .. And now, responsible positions are bought and prices are known in dollars with six zeros .. Feel the difference ..
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 1 July 2020 20: 34 New
          +3
          Quote: Svarog
          There is a big difference, they let the blood in the top

          The top is just on the case. And 6 months for 10 minutes being late for work? And "dispossession", when barefoot really got loose on the ground, and did a lot of bad things ... The famine of the early 30s ... the management let down, the feedback turned out to be weak, when it reached the "top", many died ... first years ... Many personally Stalin. And the repressions were far from the top. My grandmother's brother, a graduate of the construction institute, was arrested for "sabotage, attempted sabotage" - he wrote a memo that there was a mistake in the project, and the chimney line runs in the wooden floors of the workshop without proper thermal insulation, which threatens a fire. He was saved by the fact that it LIGHTED up where he indicated ...
          Everything was! And communal, and barracks, work for workdays ...
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 1 July 2020 21: 22 New
            +3
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Everything was! And communal, and barracks, work for workdays ...

            Anything was, I agree .. But what a result! But now it’s completely calm. Now it’s all completely irresponsible. And most importantly, the result is negative in all areas of life .. If there was a positive result in science, industry, medicine, in the social sphere .. I wouldn’t have any questions at all. Well, when there is no result, and more and more it goes .. it is in my opinion unacceptable.
            1. Mountain shooter
              Mountain shooter 1 July 2020 22: 57 New
              0
              Quote: Svarog
              all areas of life .. If there was a positive result in science, industry, medicine, in the social sphere .. I wouldn’t have any questions at all. Well, when there is no result, it goes on and on.

              I can say a bit for what I know for sure, because I have a connection to some technologies.
              At the same time I can explain the ship program. When "Zorya-Mashproekt" disrupted the supply of gas turbine engines for ships, and really forced "Saturn" to master all this nomenclature. There are many technological redistributions that had to be done from scratch. As well as the constructions ... And until the colossal work was done, they were manufactured, accepted, and the ships "went" ... this was the reason for the delay with the frigates. And with aircraft engines for 57 dryers (2nd conversion) it was even more difficult. With engines for civil aviation (PD series). Overcome! And the engines also "went" ... You have no idea what an unimaginably high level of technology, accuracy, reliability is ... So it FLIES. There are only 4 countries in the world that can produce such engines. USA, Britain, France and ... Russia. China cannot really master a copy of our military.
              There are big problems with the resource. And how do you like this "heap"?
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 1 July 2020 23: 24 New
                +4
                Quote: Mountain Shooter
                There are big problems with the resource. And how do you like this "heap"?

                The defense industry is developing, although the pace of development does not suit me at all, but at least that way .. Take Armata, I should remember in 20 already already in the troops. Or the same engines in Su 57 .. For a very long time, but still glimpses and positive aspects that leave hope ..
                But the rest?
                I am annoyed by today's education and plans to transfer it to a remote control .. I stopped hearing about our scientific achievements, and when something briefly slips through, it turns out to be a fake in the end ..
                Medicine .. it does not have to be paid .. but I see that in fact it is already one ..
                Production .. look around you, a lot of the things that surrounds you are made in Russia? Previously, they complained that supposedly in China, the work force is cheaper .. now we have cheaper since 2014 and that rub is weak, that is, the price of the product on the world market should be competitive .. and where is the product? Where is the production?
                Our economy, as it was a raw material economy, remained and finger on finger nothing is done for its development .... But there is nothing complicated in it .. The Chinese pay 1% of sales tax .. and they don’t even need an accountant. So, it’s just that their business is organized .. and we have a small individual entrepreneur, two accountants are sitting in a heap of reports mired around the clock .. Around the freakish inefficiency, which only multiply every year ..
                I will not say anything about the social sphere ... In fact, we already pay for everything ourselves. It remains only that the school education is free, but even that, as I understand it, will not last long ..
                J. Alferov spoke well with respect to the state that Putin is building ..

                “If a citizen is forced to pay for education and medical care, to accumulate a pension from his own funds, to pay housing and utilities in full, at market prices, then why do I need such a state ?! Why should I still pay taxes and maintain an insane army of officials? I have always said at all levels that health care, education and science should be provided from the budget.If the state dumps this concern on ourselves, let it disappear, it will be much easier for us!
                1. Mountain shooter
                  Mountain shooter 1 July 2020 23: 37 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Svarog
                  business .. and we have a small SP two accountants sitting in a heap of reports mired around the clock .. Around the freakish inefficiency, which every year only multiply ..

                  What is the name of your company? Where do you get all this from?
                  It has long been outsourced accounting ... electronic document management, design in 3-D ... 4 designers replace the whole design bureau.
    2. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 1 July 2020 19: 33 New
      0
      and for 30 years, a miracle didn’t happen to us ..

      And what miracle do you want? Like in America. Wait, now they’ll rewrite their story, and for one Europe. ..
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 1 July 2020 20: 22 New
        -10
        Quote: Interlocutor
        And what miracle do you want? Like in america

        No, they want a miracle like in Ukraine. This is where the very root of democracy takes root. Here is the "turnover" of power (which is what the idiots in Russia want so much), and the true "power of the people" (Maidan), and of course the declared "set of words" (he said the truth, the "patriots" will break their heads right away). Personally, my opinion is that the new generation in Russia is a little bit too hungry, they just haven't seen anything bad. And when everything is relatively normal for people, it begins to seem to them that something is missing. And what is missing is the mind. And if the memory is short, they forgot the 90s (as I was told in the next branch, "it's time to forget, 20 years have passed), then you can look, not even at Ukraine, but at the same Europe or the same states, what's going on there Do they want it?
        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 1 July 2020 20: 25 New
          -1
          Personally, my opinion is that the new generation in Russia has eaten a little, they just did not see anything bad.

          You are extremely right. The middle class is always vomiting. I know this from my friends.
          So the Greeks, snickering, wink and came up with democracy
    3. Karabin
      Karabin 1 July 2020 21: 12 New
      +5
      Quote: Svarog
      for 30 years, a miracle didn’t happen to us ..

      Well, what about? We are present at it. Revival of autocracy with the emperor sovereign. Al not a miracle? wink
    4. Magnat231
      Magnat231 1 July 2020 21: 21 New
      -9
      Give Putin the same opportunities as Stalin, and many would go to Siberia from this site to plant a forest, since 37 was cut down a lot
      1. Stalllker
        Stalllker 1 July 2020 21: 34 New
        -1
        And what prevents it from doing now ???
    5. Sergey39
      Sergey39 2 July 2020 00: 52 New
      0
      Quote: Svarog
      and for 30 years, a miracle didn’t happen to us ..

      Yes, of course it was necessary to apply the methods of Stalin.
  • Stalllker
    Stalllker 1 July 2020 19: 04 New
    -1
    If someone doesn’t like Putin, vote for another candidate, I don’t see any problems. Oval, diagonal, director of the collective farm, the choice is gorgeous. Well, if you are a minority, so respect the majority opinion!
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 1 July 2020 19: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: Stalllker
      If someone doesn’t like Putin ...

      I will not persuade your minority (because the majority will not turn the hard work of the administrative apparatus into language) BUT !!!
      If Mr Putin in the first term of the election (or even in the second) declared that he would leave unchanged the “achievements” of the era of the EBN rule; if he said that neither the EBN family nor the privatizers robbing the country “have no shame”; if he proclaimed himself a reformer of the constitution in terms of appropriating the right of eternal (life) rule, regardless of the outcome of the vote; If he had declared an increase in the retirement age and a decrease in the purchasing power of the population ... even that would be enough to leave him in the margins of history.
      You can fall at his feet. Until my wife’s salary becomes 41 681 rubles a month, I said, I’ll say and I’ll say that a lie is the most prominent feature of a guarantor. For celery, how much he put for you for your services, for me, for how much, how many people from private TV channels announced their joy in voting for amendments (because I know how Russophobic hysteria was paid for on these channels) and burdock in your hands. ..You and everyone who is well attached in the Moscow region.
      Yes, I do not like Putin !!!
      I like young talkative women with a sense of humor and good appearance ... Such are my addictions ...
      Gerontophilia (political) is not mine. I had seen enough of this at a young age.
      1. Stalllker
        Stalllker 1 July 2020 21: 37 New
        -2
        Do not like, choose another one in the next election
      2. Stalllker
        Stalllker 1 July 2020 21: 42 New
        0
        And what an eternal ruler he is, your mother. He’s an old man, wake up. You write garbage. He will pull another maximum term
    2. tatra
      tatra 1 July 2020 19: 43 New
      +7
      It's useless to sit down to play with cheaters. Democracy of the enemies of the communists is a "scam for suckers". You will never let those who want to change the System that are beneficial to you win the elections. But if in other countries of the world there is some kind of intrigue, which of you will win the elections, then in Russia, which of you is the President, that one will always win the elections.
      1. Stalllker
        Stalllker 1 July 2020 21: 40 New
        -4
        You are about the president who always wins the elections in the USA and Ukraine, tell me, here they will laugh
    3. U-58
      U-58 1 July 2020 20: 16 New
      -5
      Respect - of course yes !.
      But what about when the majority and the minority are cleverly swapped in one night? Who should be respected then?
  • iouris
    iouris 1 July 2020 19: 11 New
    +1
    In the protectorates of Bohemia and Moravia, the number of seamstresses - the brave zoltaten of the information front - has risen somewhat suspiciously. The VW Skoda division must pay reparations. Their weapons have killed more people than are now living in the former Czechoslovakia.
  • Fungus
    Fungus 1 July 2020 19: 24 New
    -14
    Let him rule further. The country is one big construction site. They began to slowly revive shipbuilding, aircraft manufacturing and a bunch of everything that was ditched in the 90s.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 1 July 2020 20: 29 New
      +5
      Quote: Fungus
      We began to slowly revive shipbuilding, aircraft manufacturing and a bunch of everything

      And where to look at this heap?
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 1 July 2020 20: 40 New
        -7
        Go to the toilet (preferably a street one), lean on the pit and look very carefully, you can even shine a flashlight - this will be your bunch, since you don’t notice anything besides this.
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 1 July 2020 20: 51 New
          +7
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          Go to the toilet (

          And without a toilet theme, where is it anyway? Where is that beautiful Russia with ships, planes and other revived good?
          1. Sergey Averchenkov
            Sergey Averchenkov 1 July 2020 21: 11 New
            -6
            https://sdelanounas.ru/ Пожалуйста.
            1. Karabin
              Karabin 1 July 2020 21: 42 New
              12
              Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
              https://sdelanounas.ru/

              On sites I have not seen this. Where in reality is that? Here I look at myself in clothes - China, Kyrgyzstan, Turkey. Household appliances around - China, Malaysia. Sorry, the Lipetsk refrigerator, but in years. The power tool is China, or from the Chinese Subaru components in the yard - Japan. The neighbors are Toyota, Renault, Nissan. A truck, a tractor, a baler, a rake, a mower, a plow come from the USSR (hello to galoshes) On the tracks of Scania, Man, Renault and other foreigners. In the fields around NewHolland, John Deere and, in some places, the desired Kirovets, a little Rostselmash. Plows lemken, seeders concord. At the fancy livestock complex of a well-known agricultural holding of domestic equipment, only the urn at the office. cows are also from europe. Additives. Medicines - China, Europe, states. Apparently the wave of rebirth has not reached our Palestinians.
      2. Magnat231
        Magnat231 1 July 2020 21: 24 New
        -5
        The site is called, made by us. RU
  • Boratsagdiev
    Boratsagdiev 1 July 2020 19: 32 New
    +6
    Czech media: Putin may outperform Soviet leaders

    With mathematics, they are apparently bad, he has already surpassed Brezhnev by 2 years.
    1. tatra
      tatra 1 July 2020 20: 14 New
      +7
      Putin takes great care of his health and is not overworked, so that he can surpass Peter the Great, who ruled for 43 years.
      1. Boratsagdiev
        Boratsagdiev 1 July 2020 21: 21 New
        +5
        I also rolled in minus ...
        it's probably from among the accountants laughing
  • rocket757
    rocket757 1 July 2020 19: 33 New
    0
    Czech media: Putin may outperform Soviet leaders

    But what an intrigue ... will, will not, love, dislike !!!
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 1 July 2020 19: 44 New
    +4
    And why are they so worried about this?

    The formula is simple, if "Western partners" don't like something, then do it))
    1. tatra
      tatra 1 July 2020 20: 17 New
      +3
      Not an argument. Enemies of the communists in the West, in Europe, on the territory of the USSR, all 100 years after the October Revolution, have been waging their vicious information wars against both dissidents and against each other, and they arrange "color revolutions" - Maidans against each other.
  • mag nit
    mag nit 1 July 2020 19: 50 New
    +4
    The Kremlin will also leave ahead with its feet.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 1 July 2020 20: 32 New
      +5
      Quote: mag nit
      Forward feet too

      and in the mausoleum with the sign "Zerolenin"
  • Egoza
    Egoza 1 July 2020 19: 50 New
    +9
    Yes, no matter how much I sat, but I.V. Stalin will not surpass. What matters is not how much, but quality.
  • U-58
    U-58 1 July 2020 19: 59 New
    10
    It seems that tomorrow, on July 2, the notorious and legendary figure of 76% will be drawn.
    He never supported those who called the USSR an evil empire, who later called Russia the country of the absurd.
    But now I have such thoughts rooted ....
  • Samara_63
    Samara_63 1 July 2020 20: 00 New
    +6
    Why did people pay utility bills during the epidemic? Why were there no direct material assistance during the epidemic? In the United States, without exception, they gave a check for $ 1000; the state paid for utilities. This was the case throughout Europe.
    Today is July 1, and why did you as President allow you to raise utilities? And this was during the pandemic when many lost their jobs, many were not paid salaries! You, as President, are aware that many people who work in business receive informally ... And they were not paid money during their isolation! Or do I report to you that most have been paid? You, as President, go to the provinces in any TS and ask workers, or go to any private security company! Do you deserve re-election?
    1. tatra
      tatra 1 July 2020 20: 21 New
      10
      After, before the last "Putin's elections", Putin's propagandists whipped up hysteria "everyone has to come, vote for Putin, give him our mandate of trust", Putin shook the people with a pension robbery, And it's scary to imagine what Putin, whom nothing else is needed from the people, who made himself the ruler of Russia for life.
      1. Samara_63
        Samara_63 1 July 2020 21: 15 New
        +3
        Russia, the only one of the twenty countries that did not support its citizens financially during the pandemic
    2. alone
      alone 1 July 2020 20: 25 New
      10
      What are you unhappy with?
      All citizens of the Russian Federation with an income of 17000 rubles are the middle class.
      You can’t just give people money ... It’s harmful .. You can only Rosneft and Gazprom .. And Ksyusha for crabs ..
      Quote: Samara_63
      Europe.
      Today is July 1, and why did you, as President, allow you to raise utilities? And this was during the pandemic when many lost their jobs, many were not paid salaries! You, as President, are aware that many people who work in business receive informally ... And they were not paid money during self-isolation! Or do I report to you that most have been paid? You, as President, go to the provinces in any T C and ask workers, or go to the PSC! Do you deserve re-election?

      Dear Vasily! Are there too many questions for the president? You bore him with these questions laughing wassat
    3. Boratsagdiev
      Boratsagdiev 1 July 2020 21: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Samara_63
      In the United States, without exception, they gave a check for $ 1000

      Do not mislead people.
      Not everything, not 1000, but up to 1000.
      Many received from 200 to 800.
      Given their current prices, this is not enough even for a monthly rental.
      Quote: Samara_63
      Today is July 1, and why did you, as President, allow you to raise utilities?

      So they voted for amendments to the constitution which are for the good of the people, what else do you want? ...
      more will be more fun ...
      many of these amendments have not been read, and much has been laid there for a brighter future.
    4. Magnat231
      Magnat231 1 July 2020 21: 28 New
      -1
      You’re persecuting, where you paid in Europe, what you’re talking about, I’ll say about Latvia and Germany, you don’t pay anyone anything, checks for bucks in the United States are nonsense, about 8 Baku checks for US cove, so don’t drive
    5. Stalllker
      Stalllker 1 July 2020 22: 09 New
      0
      And what is $ 1000 for the USA? It's about nothing
    6. Stalllker
      Stalllker 1 July 2020 22: 11 New
      -2
      I work in a private security company, I didn’t stay without work bully always need to be protected
  • frizzy
    frizzy 1 July 2020 20: 21 New
    -7
    And I "Kazakh" do not care about the opinion of the Czechs and their like. Putin. I respect and believe that the Almighty gave you the Russians and all of us as a CIS member a chance to return our common country !!!!
  • 501Legion
    501Legion 1 July 2020 20: 38 New
    -10
    In my opinion, Russians do not like anything at all, never satisfied with their life. and constantly they have someone to blame for this
    1. Fungus
      Fungus 1 July 2020 21: 02 New
      -12
      Most Russians are for Putin. There is just a bunch against. They usually crow a lot.
    2. Stalllker
      Stalllker 1 July 2020 22: 07 New
      0
      This is so in Ukraine
  • Igoresha
    Igoresha 1 July 2020 20: 57 New
    -6
    ashamed of europe
  • frizzy
    frizzy 1 July 2020 21: 00 New
    -6
    I can be a Kazakh minus, but as a "COSSACK" born and raised in Kazakhia and who did not escape in the 90s, who did not betray the grave of their ancestors, I despise the pseudo Lebirals-minusators.PUTIN-STALIN !!!!
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 1 July 2020 21: 15 New
    -4
    Quote: Interlocutor
    then the noodles that Nightingale and jelly hang.
    You do not like them. So everyone is doing the right thing.

    Of course it’s right, they’ve bought up all of Europe, they are preparing to dump Russia
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 1 July 2020 21: 22 New
    -2
    how the Western media make a point of doing emphasis on Putin)))))) you read that Europe and others there do not like all the courts they will no longer dispute ours! otherwise they could have done so, our court issues without payments and their court disputes ours and gives payments and their court in the EU was higher than ours!
  • flicker
    flicker 1 July 2020 21: 41 New
    -8
    Stonut of Yaroslavna crying people betrayed them belay supported changes to the Constitution of Russia bully
    1. strelokmira
      strelokmira 1 July 2020 22: 05 New
      +4
      the people betrayed them, supported changes to the Constitution of Russia

      Only here the people have nothing to do with it at all wink
  • frizzy
    frizzy 1 July 2020 21: 57 New
    -6
    Yesaaa! -Comrades among us have appeared - "Vasovtsy" - It's time for uvazhaevym moderators to "wet in the toilet" - THEM !!!!
  • Stalllker
    Stalllker 1 July 2020 22: 03 New
    -11
    Not dear "gentlemen" who are against the amendments, I hasten to upset you, but WE got you and the amendments will be accepted. You can break your fingers on the keyboard now, but that won't change anything. hi
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 1 July 2020 22: 28 New
      +8
      but WE raped you
      with retirement age, with the taiga of China, the sea of ​​Norway, millions of gas for Ukraine, Poland, and don’t stop after all)))
      1. Stalllker
        Stalllker 1 July 2020 22: 40 New
        -13
        With all the darling, we raped you. And I’ll tell you a secret about the forest, in the USSR it was cut down much more, and it went for export as well
      2. Stalllker
        Stalllker 1 July 2020 22: 43 New
        -4
        You also write about the Mir station, at the presidential elections on the forums they also shouted that Putin drowned it laughing
      3. Stalllker
        Stalllker 1 July 2020 22: 44 New
        -5
        I’m not a kid for you to screw such nonsense to me.
    2. hroft
      hroft 2 July 2020 00: 01 New
      +8
      Who are we? Judging by your way of talking typical Putin’s 6ddle? Knock on the clave more, otherwise you’ll tear it from the feeder
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 1 July 2020 22: 15 New
    0
    Who cares? This is not only the Czechs write.
    In Africa, in the east, in the Middle East is full of long-lived rulers ....
    And all during life support until they die.
    Someone walks in leopard suits, conducts military reviews on the bike, rides on camels, drives armored trains, and finds amphorae.
    Tradition.
  • agoran
    agoran 1 July 2020 22: 17 New
    +1
    Czech media, hmm, is that the state that worked and produced equipment for Nazi Germany?
    Kui from the beach.
    I wanted to buy a book in a bookstore in Ostrava, the saleswoman made a muzzle with a brick, I don’t understand Russian, I swore in German, asked to call the manager, everything was decided right away.
  • akshor
    akshor 1 July 2020 23: 02 New
    +7
    For me personally, Putin is dead. As a person. It’s cynical to fuck the people for the sake of an eternal reign ... This is not a historical figure ... this is a great con man in history ... It is very stupid that he didn’t leave after the Crimea ... The power will intoxicate ... And it will end badly
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 1 July 2020 23: 06 New
      -4
      what are you talking about! so you can vote for Lyubov! you have Putin current and that's it!
    2. Stalllker
      Stalllker 2 July 2020 00: 14 New
      -6
      I think he personally on you on the drum and on your opinion
  • Al Asad
    Al Asad 1 July 2020 23: 20 New
    +2
    But I don’t understand? What is everyone afraid of? Russia is developing in 100 mile strides, the oligarchs are all at court, poverty is eradicated, there is no corruption
  • hroft
    hroft 1 July 2020 23: 23 New
    +3
    Putin needs further stay in power only for one thing - to guarantee the personal inviolability of himself and his family and to preserve the “acquired by back-breaking labor.” The change of power will entail an inevitable change of the elite, and no one can personally guarantee something to Putin, so here the question of the viability of himself and his henchmen in the literal and figurative sense will become acute, a complete dismantling of the entire Putin system is needed, it leads the country to a dead end, Russia does not need a Maidan in the likeness of the Ukrainian one, but a new October Revolution with the construction of a state based on new pillars like those on whom the Soviet Union stood, the Putin clique that continues the Gorbachev-Yeltsin perestroika will not give up power so easily, it will not do without blood, but there is no other way out, the people, not Putin, should decide in which country our children and grandchildren will live
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      1. hroft
        hroft 1 July 2020 23: 39 New
        +2
        All the amendments are aimed at "disguising" the main thing - zeroing the presidency, he is changing the constitution for the second time for himself, in 2024 they will again say that there is no alternative to Putin, but this is a lie, he does not want to give power to ANYONE, even to those who really understand more than him and has its own vision of the internal structure of the country
      2. Stalllker
        Stalllker 2 July 2020 00: 23 New
        -5
        I also liked them, although they do not directly concern me. And he is just a troll, his task is to write what the owner will say: the forest to China, gas to Ukraine, they sold their Russia, etc. ... Ahh, I forgot "Putin drowned the Mir station", so the dog is with them, the dog barks, the caravan goes
    2. Stalllker
      Stalllker 2 July 2020 00: 15 New
      0
      And what prevents him from keeping all "this" unchanged in the constitution?
      1. hroft
        hroft 2 July 2020 00: 20 New
        +2
        Without changes, he does not have the right to become president again, what is not clear? He thus legitimizes his power
        1. Stalllker
          Stalllker 2 July 2020 00: 31 New
          -5
          I can’t rzhu)))) he is already a legitimate president, what else can he legitimize ??? You throw manuals to read, think with your own head what you write!
          1. hroft
            hroft 2 July 2020 00: 36 New
            +3
            I'm talking about the year 2024, are you drunk or can't you read?
            1. Stalllker
              Stalllker 2 July 2020 00: 37 New
              -3
              Are you drunk or something, where do you say 2024 ????)))))
              1. hroft
                hroft 2 July 2020 00: 49 New
                0
                All amendments are aimed at "disguising" the main one - zeroing the terms of the presidency, he is changing the constitution for himself for the second time, in 2024 they will again say that there is no alternative to Putin
                1. Stalllker
                  Stalllker 2 July 2020 00: 56 New
                  -5
                  But he really has no alternative, that’s your puncture. You do not have a candidate ... And so you will always lose
                  1. hroft
                    hroft 2 July 2020 01: 25 New
                    +3
                    Who do you have with? Who are you? You are an ordinary Putin's slayer who decided that he is the people and only his opinion has the right to life, one thing is good that people like you are getting smaller every day
                    1. Stalllker
                      Stalllker 2 July 2020 02: 37 New
                      -3
                      The enemies of Russia like you
                      1. hroft
                        hroft 2 July 2020 03: 36 New
                        +2
                        The problem is that we have different Russia, Putin’s garbage country in a Western manner, or a socially oriented powerful state that can be built
                      2. Stalllker
                        Stalllker 2 July 2020 04: 48 New
                        -2
                        We already have a fairly socially oriented state. Go smoke, you fucked up
          2. Stalllker
            Stalllker 2 July 2020 00: 38 New
            -4
            Yes, and you write, but do not say))))
      2. Stalllker
        Stalllker 2 July 2020 00: 34 New
        -2
        What prevents him from putting his man in the presidency and further into the dark steering of the Russian Federation ???)))) listen to you like that, Putin can do everything, he influences everything, decides everything, everywhere he launched his tentacles. And why would he even be president if he is omnipotent ?!))))))
        1. hroft
          hroft 2 July 2020 00: 43 New
          0
          He is almighty only while retaining the presidency, read carefully what I wrote above and do not ask stupid questions
          1. Stalllker
            Stalllker 2 July 2020 00: 53 New
            -2
            It's good that he can do anything!)))) I wish him good health and success !!!)))) You are boring trolls
            1. hroft
              hroft 2 July 2020 01: 38 New
              0
              You are either an ordinary zombie cheer patriot, or Putin’s hard suction, I see no reason to waste time on people like you
              1. Stalllker
                Stalllker 2 July 2020 02: 39 New
                -2
                I am a patriot of my country, I do not deny it. Don’t waste time on me, you don’t care to say anything intelligible
              2. Stalllker
                Stalllker 2 July 2020 02: 41 New
                -3
                Everything in my country suits me and the president also
                1. hroft
                  hroft 2 July 2020 03: 27 New
                  0
                  But I am not, if I am against Putin, I mean the enemy of Russia? You are a fervent patriot of Putin, not Russia
                  1. Stalllker
                    Stalllker 2 July 2020 04: 47 New
                    -1
                    Go and vote for another, and amendments as amended
                  2. Stalllker
                    Stalllker 2 July 2020 04: 54 New
                    -1
                    These are your personal problems against whom you are and we don’t need to impose our opinion, so calm down
          2. Stalllker
            Stalllker 2 July 2020 01: 08 New
            -1
            I ask you once again, what prevents him from becoming president for his man?
            1. hroft
              hroft 2 July 2020 01: 33 New
              -1
              Yes, because no one will subscribe for it, and he knows it
              1. Stalllker
                Stalllker 2 July 2020 02: 38 New
                -1
                Well, you think so
      3. Stalllker
        Stalllker 2 July 2020 00: 35 New
        -2
        You remind about the drunk Yeltsin ???
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 1 July 2020 23: 23 New
    +4
    Quote: Finches
    . The attack went to the Square Minute. If so, then with pleasure and respect I will accept your point of view, and if not, then here too!

    And there they did not go on the attack, so in short dashes, and somewhere crawling from "Station" to "Hospital", from "Minutka" and back, patamushta that fucking connection, which you are now a colonel, was not stupid, and all of you " dezhavnikiblin "they warmed their backs around the headquarters, filled in the award on themselves, and then" honored ", your mother .. what can you say about this, so-so .., booze cognachello, palkovnik
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 2 July 2020 04: 56 New
    +2
    For those who have not yet understood what is really happening and for those who are excessively puzzled by zeroing and are trying their best to puzzle everything and all ...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKClxvSEFhQ&feature=emb_logo
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 2 July 2020 05: 49 New
    0
    And what's the difference to lackeys striped what and how is happening in Russia?
  • Yurahip
    Yurahip 2 July 2020 09: 00 New
    0
    Welcome to the Kremlin elders!
  • bumer84
    bumer84 2 July 2020 13: 26 New
    -1
    Comrades, we officially received the KING !!!
    And you can grumble with saliva and beat yourself in the chest ...
    But this video (of the late Uncle Misha) speaks better than many words
  • Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 2 July 2020 14: 48 New
    -1
    Let it remain, "their" opinions do not sway me.
  • Naughty
    Naughty 2 July 2020 18: 43 New
    0
    And who is there in the background in the background three times educated sitting judging by the icons?))))
  • Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 2 July 2020 22: 14 New
    0
    Stalin will not surpass.
  • 7 poplar
    7 poplar 3 July 2020 00: 04 New
    0
    Do not be jealous if there are no smart rulers!