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The crash of F-16 continued the series of losses of US fighters

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It became known about the plane crash at one of the US military bases. We are talking about the fact that the US Air Force F-16 fighter crashed on the territory of the base in South Carolina - a base called Shaw.


According to the latest reports, the pilot died.

The reports said that the plane had a planned training flight.

The command refers to the exact modification of the crashed aircraft. This is the F-16CM, which belonged to the 20th Air Force wing of the United States Air Force.

It can be stated that this catastrophe continued a series of incidents with fighters of the US Air Force and Navy. Within a few days, the United States lost the fifth-generation F-22 and F-35A aircraft, then the F-15C Eagle fighter fell into the North Sea. In addition, one can note the damage of another F-35A and the C-130 Hercules. Now the US has lost the F-16 fighter.


It is worth noting that this is the most massive series of losses and damage to US military aircraft in recent times.

Reportedly, after the F-16 plane crash, an investigation team was formed to find out the cause of the incident. At the same time, the American command still has not provided data on the reasons for the loss of the F-22 and F-35 fighters. Experts believe that the Pentagon has difficulties with what reasons to voice. If we talk about technical problems, this can push partners from the F-35 program. If you declare a human factor - the error of the pilots - this can cast a shadow on the training of fighter crews.
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  1. Machete
    Machete 1 July 2020 15: 50 New
    26
    Fell and fell.
    Out of thousands of sides, an unlimited amount is always beating. This is the prose of life.

    We and Amers have transparent information on this.
    But who has heard of this in China? I don’t remember any news about the accident. Or nothing falls there? Oh, something is not believed. With their engine manufacturing quality, accidents should be more than ours and amers. And maybe more, than with us taken together.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 1 July 2020 16: 11 New
      0
      It was a planned plane crash. .

      yes
    2. Sergey39
      Sergey39 1 July 2020 16: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Machete
      Fell and fell.

      Nothing wrong. The US president has a lot of them.
      1. Machete
        Machete 1 July 2020 17: 11 New
        +4
        That's what I'm talking about. It's one thing if they all died at once ... But these are dreams. And so - others will build.
    3. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 1 July 2020 17: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: Machete
      I don’t remember any news about the accident. Or nothing falls there? Oh, something is not believed. With their engine manufacturing quality, accidents should be more than ours and amers. And maybe more, than with us taken together.


      I agree. I vaguely recall one catastrophe of the deck J-15, it is obvious that I fell because of it and recognized.
    4. Gnefredov
      Gnefredov 1 July 2020 22: 30 New
      +1
      One umm ... Let’s say that a former colleague (who has been living permanently over the river for many years) complained several years ago about counterfeit parts arriving on the assembly line of a famous aircraft manufacturer. Labeling of the elements, says the local manufacturer, but the actual product is Made in Southeast Asia. Well, what am I saying, will it be with your airplanes? They will fall he answered.
      In general, we were talking about defense products. Well, my conversation with a former colleague happened after he was dismissed from the aircraft manufacturing corporation if that.
      -
      Hmm, how time flies.
      Sorry to be under the top :-)
    5. yehat2
      yehat2 2 July 2020 01: 10 New
      -1
      The USA has a very large shortage of quality personnel. So problematic that they have a chronic shortage. UAV operators are almost 50%, pilots are about 30. The same applies to ground services - Poles are engaged in service, Ukrainians have actually deserted from the Armed Forces, Africans and others, and this bedlam will inevitably increase the number of incidents. Even the carrier fleet, for which a reduction in training is highly undesirable, is already reducing requirements due to understaffing.
      In addition, the deterioration of a significant part of the fleet borders on the dangerous - this applies to the f-15, and b-52, and f-16, and especially, b-1b.
  2. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 1 July 2020 15: 54 New
    +8
    It is unfortunate that the pilot died. Condolences to family and friends!
    1. edmed
      edmed 1 July 2020 17: 47 New
      +5
      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      It is unfortunate that the pilot died. Condolences to family and friends!

      It is like this, but: - a combat unit, - a trained pilot who would not condole any living creatures on the territory of the declared enemy, in general, RIP
    2. IL-64
      IL-64 1 July 2020 18: 32 New
      -1
      Look for the address of the US Embassy, ​​or tell me? If you tell me, in which country will you condole?
      1. Marconi41
        Marconi41 1 July 2020 18: 42 New
        +8
        Quote: IL-64
        Look for the address of the US Embassy, ​​or tell me? If you tell me, in which country will you condole?

        A pilot is just a soldier! He does not declare war, does not bomb other countries without an order, he is a simple man, like our servicemen, ready to join the battle.
        Condolences to his family.
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 1 July 2020 23: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: Marconi41
          Condolences to his family.

          I agree with you very much, sorry guy.
          Serving the country cannot be denied, but to be honest we will not worry ...
        2. Kurare
          Kurare 2 July 2020 10: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Marconi41
          A pilot is just a soldier!

          Exactly. I join the condolences to his family.
  3. FIR FIR
    FIR FIR 1 July 2020 16: 01 New
    +1
    If you declare the human factor - the error of the pilots - then this can cast a shadow on the training of fighter crews.

    Likely. In addition to the F35, other models have been in operation for decades.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 1 July 2020 17: 32 New
      +3
      F-16x always beat a lot ...
      1. figwam
        figwam 1 July 2020 17: 40 New
        +6
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        F-16x always beat a lot ...

        F-16 supplemented the picture, in a short time all types of F-22, F-35, F-15, F-18, F-16 fighters fell. This is not a coincidence - it is a pattern.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 1 July 2020 17: 42 New
          +2
          So it turns out the entire model line of fighter-bombers
      2. loki565
        loki565 1 July 2020 18: 36 New
        +2
        F16 has one engine, in case of a bird or some kind of malfunction, it remains only to catapult
      3. Gosha Smirnov
        Gosha Smirnov 1 July 2020 22: 39 New
        +2
        them and built most of all
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 July 2020 16: 04 New
    +9
    Sorry for the pilot. The number of accidents indirectly indicates an increase in the number of training flights, and flights with complex maneuvering, often at low altitude. How else to explain that the pilot did not have time to leave the car?
    I grew up in the family of a military pilot, I remember that 1-2 people a year fought in a regiment. A rare year went without a funeral. The end of the 60s ... As a rule, technology did not fail, piloting errors ...
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 1 July 2020 16: 16 New
      -4
      And how can it be a pity for a military man from a country of a geopolitical adversary? Only the enemy can spare him.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 1 July 2020 16: 29 New
        +6
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        And how can it be a pity for a military man from a country of a geopolitical adversary? Only the enemy can spare him.

        As long as there is no war, we are all PEOPLE. That's when it starts - then we'll see what color their liver is ...
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 1 July 2020 16: 54 New
          +9
          The war is on. Just in a different form.
        2. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 1 July 2020 17: 27 New
          +4
          Well, yes, only they don’t consider us people. This must always be remembered.

          They are enemies, and enemies are not people.

          PS You would also sympathize with the Nazis in the Second World War?
          1. Marconi41
            Marconi41 1 July 2020 18: 46 New
            +5
            Quote: Lord of the Sith
            Well, yes, only they don’t consider us people. This must always be remembered.

            They are enemies, and enemies are not people.

            PS You would also sympathize with the Nazis in the Second World War?

            A lot of American tourists walk around Moscow. Take a club and hit them on the head. They are enemies!
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 1 July 2020 19: 41 New
              -2
              What nonsense are you suggesting. If you beat foreign tourists in the capital of Russia, then the police with a rubber club will give you a damn, and you will be absolutely right.

              Do you know what TVD is? It is there that relationships are found out, not in Moscow, and even more so among tourists.
              You are an extremist with such a statement))
              1. Marconi41
                Marconi41 2 July 2020 00: 07 New
                +1
                Quote: Lord of the Sith
                What nonsense are you suggesting. If you beat foreign tourists in the capital of Russia, then the police with a rubber club will give you a damn, and you will be absolutely right.

                Do you know what TVD is? It is there that relationships are found out, not in Moscow, and even more so among tourists.
                You are an extremist with such a statement))

                It's not me, but you are looking for a war where it is not yet.
                Quote: Lord of the Sith
                They are enemies, and enemies are not people.

                Are these your words? I am a military man and I know the terms, but so far the war has not begun, I’m not going to consider everyone as enemies in a row.
                1. Lord of the Sith
                  Lord of the Sith 3 July 2020 00: 08 New
                  -2
                  And I’m a military officer, an officer, and the war has passed, what you propose is real extremism at the level of African blacks somewhere in Somalia.
                  1. Marconi41
                    Marconi41 3 July 2020 13: 03 New
                    +1
                    What i said
                    Quote: Marconi41
                    A lot of American tourists walk around Moscow. Take a club and hit them on the head. They are enemies!

                    This is sarcasm in your words
                    Quote: Lord of the Sith
                    They are enemies, and enemies are not people.

                    hi
          2. Gosha Smirnov
            Gosha Smirnov 1 July 2020 23: 04 New
            -4
            Well, yes! And that’s why every second Russian’s enemy dolly are under their pillows, and about a hundred lard bucks were bought by the Amer treasury of Russia
        3. Oyo Sarkazmi
          Oyo Sarkazmi 1 July 2020 20: 10 New
          -2
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          As long as there is no war, we are all PEOPLE.

          It may well be that this pilot was in Iraq on rotation. And he fired at the crowd below, just like that. The funeral was there, or a wedding, or just a market. Every year happens. Under Bush, every week. So the American executioners feel sorry - do not respect yourself.
        4. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 2 July 2020 02: 01 New
          -1
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          As long as there is no war, we are all PEOPLE.

          in the sense of not specifically killing you but some Afghans and Iraqis?
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 1 July 2020 16: 27 New
      +8
      Something a lot a year, memory fails? My childhood from the 5th grade passed near the airfield of the training regiment in Siverskaya. The memory of one disaster in five to six years has been preserved in my memory. These are 60-66 years.
      And secondly - I don’t feel sorry for the potential enemy, and even practicing flights at low altitude in a difficult terrain.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 1 July 2020 17: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: NordUral
        Something a lot a year, memory fails? My childhood from the 5th grade passed near the airfield of the training regiment in Siverskaya. The memory of one disaster in five to six years has been preserved in my memory. These are 60-66 years.

        The training regiment is not combat. Rarely fly into a combat regiment with instructors on a spark ... And practice piloting skills, work at the training ground, training aerial battles and flights at night and in complex "meteo" ... As many as you like ...
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 1 July 2020 18: 11 New
          -1
          Perhaps I will not argue.
  5. seregin-s1
    seregin-s1 1 July 2020 16: 08 New
    +2
    Old airplanes. No one has canceled the time to failure. Sorry for the pilot.
  6. Samara_63
    Samara_63 1 July 2020 16: 10 New
    -4
    Horror. Condolences to family and friends
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 1 July 2020 16: 14 New
    +4
    Let ours fly without incident. We do not need accidents. What other signs do our pilots have. Family of condolences.
  8. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 1 July 2020 16: 15 New
    +8
    Now, if Russian planes fell with such a frequency, then the Yankees and their tame hyenas would howl and rave to the full. And so ...
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 1 July 2020 16: 30 New
      +6
      And it was, it just got better with us, and they themselves have problems in full. Hegemons without a strong enemy rot. States are no exception. And the new enemy has not yet gained weight and strength.
    2. Andy
      Andy 1 July 2020 17: 25 New
      -16
      so in the Russian Federation and fall. yet how often. probably the first place in the disaster.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 1 July 2020 17: 41 New
        15
        I'll tell you such a moment offhand. According to freshly released Russian fighters over the past 10-12 years. From serial only.
        Su-35 - not one of about 90 is lost.
        Su-30M2 - not one of 20 is lost.
        Su-30SM - lost one in Syria from about 110.
        Su-34 - 2 lost over the sea in a collision in the air from about 120.
        MiG-29K - 1 board was lost, lost due to the ship.
        MiG-29SMTR - no losses out of 18 (16 SMT + 2UBM)
        1. Andy
          Andy 1 July 2020 18: 10 New
          -16
          oh well and instant31 and instant29 from repair? or I remember, but not here. turntables and transporters do not count? al not aircraft?
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 1 July 2020 18: 20 New
            +8
            Do you like respected with the Russian language? Bad for sure?
            Once again, I was not going to give all the accident statistics. It was literally (I’ll even make bold for you)
            According to freshly released Russian fighters over the past 10-12 years. From serial only.
            1. Andy
              Andy 1 July 2020 18: 56 New
              -11
              Quote: Cyril G ...
              Do you like respected with the Russian language? Bad for sure?

              LIVE with the letter I. I do not care about your statistics, according to which 146% of Russians go to the polls. The video of the air crashes was shown on TV, but they don’t appear on your screen.
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        2. Andy
          Andy 1 July 2020 18: 11 New
          -14
          even su57 even if not serial
        3. Andy
          Andy 1 July 2020 19: 07 New
          -14
          You are a liar, Cyril. https://ria.ru/20110906/431177764.html
          "The MiG-31 interceptor crashed near Perm on Tuesday; this is the second such incident in less than a year. The tragedy that led to the deaths of two pilots is a consequence of the fact that the new equipment has not yet entered the Air Force, and the old one is no longer being upgraded."
          look at the date -2011. how is your chosen period. Where is he in your statistics? prYuvetpotriotu

          py.sy finally recall about the Yak-130s ...
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            1. Andy
              Andy 1 July 2020 19: 21 New
              -9
              not understand that f16 is also not zero? and what difference does it make if technology is lost and people die, at least ours at least them.
            2. Andy
              Andy 1 July 2020 19: 27 New
              -11
              you were originally written about disasters without separation, new / new. there’s a point! why are you already in the pan
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 1 July 2020 19: 30 New
                +4
                I didn’t lie in the ditch with you, but you are the only one turning around. For the fourth time, my sample is explaining to you, as especially gifted, exclusively for newly built fighters.
                Adequate people, if they need to compare accident rates by country, go to the Aviation Safety Network and there they compare, not shake their tongues. Everything's there.
            3. Andy
              Andy 1 July 2020 19: 28 New
              -12
              fighter. and su24 too. according to the NATO approach. and su25! learn materiel
          2. Voyager
            Voyager 1 July 2020 20: 53 New
            0
            This Mig-31 in which year off the assembly line?
        4. Gosha Smirnov
          Gosha Smirnov 1 July 2020 22: 37 New
          0
          Yes, yes, it remains only to add that the pilots' raids and the fleet of the pin doos are many times more than the Russian
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 1 July 2020 23: 38 New
            0
            Do you have reliable data on the raid of the United States? Moreover, separately for the Air Force, Navy, ILC, and the National Guard. Do you know that they think the raid is not quite like us? And for reagents, this immediately makes a difference. Do you have an idea about the structure of them and our flight training?
            Do you know that from the year 15th, not full wings go to the sea at the AUG? Not enough pilots are corny. Moreover, everywhere.
            Our business is no better. But to imagine that in the Shining City on the hill everyone is hurt naively.
            1. Gosha Smirnov
              Gosha Smirnov 1 July 2020 23: 59 New
              0
              I’m just imagining a lot of things. And I didn’t write that everything was hurt right there. And the situation in the Russian Aerospace Forces is an order of magnitude worse for raids. Also write that the US air fleet is smaller. I also wrote about the air park
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 2 July 2020 00: 02 New
                0
                Quote: Gosha Smirnov
                . And the situation in the Russian Aerospace Forces is much worse for raids.


                This is an order of magnitude 10 times. Do you want to say that the annual raid in abstract US forces is at least 800 hours? And then you somehow did not specify what you are talking about. And for the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Navy, I present information ...

                And the park is bigger. And so what? Someone expects WWII cosplay in the air?
                1. Gosha Smirnov
                  Gosha Smirnov 2 July 2020 03: 16 New
                  0
                  ... the deputy commander of the Central Military District added that some success in 2019 was achieved in training young pilots. The annual raid of newly arrived officers increased by 7 hours, reaching 118 hours, which is 6 percent more than in 2018. The average flight time for American pilots is 250-300 hours. Section 2 - the interpretation of the term is wider and it is not necessary to drive it exclusively into a convenient framework. https://kartaslov.ru/value-word/on%20 order .. That is, the plaque is less than about 2.5 times. And this is several times smaller. So do not look for fleas where they do not exist. The meaning of my words is obvious and understandable.
                  1. Cyril G ...
                    Cyril G ... 2 July 2020 14: 59 New
                    0
                    Quote: Gosha Smirnov
                    American pilots fly on average 250-300 hours

                    Do you have evidence that this is so? And then there are a lot of rumors. And different. That it was so. Yes. That so there is a big question.
                    Quote: Gosha Smirnov
                    about 2.5 times. And this is several times less.

                    2.5 times this is not an order of magnitude. Be specific in terms and numbers.
                    Quote: Gosha Smirnov
                    The meaning of my words is obvious and understandable.

                    This is not true
                    118 hours, 6 percent more

                    In different parts in different ways. There are differences. There is an air regiment with an average of 80 raids, and there are also under 180.
              2. 5-9
                5-9 2 July 2020 15: 40 New
                +1
                An order of magnitude - this is 10 times ... you don’t even understand the meaning of the words you write
      2. Uncle Vanya Susanin
        Uncle Vanya Susanin 1 July 2020 17: 48 New
        +2
        "probably" is already outdated, now you need to say "highly like", and everyone believes you right away, verified in practice wink
        And evidence, proofs, arguments, numbers, it’s not fashionable at all now, well, them!
  9. HAM
    HAM 1 July 2020 16: 17 New
    +6
    The mess on the streets began to get close to the army ... otherwise than this can be explained ... just like the last years of the union ..
    1. kulinar
      kulinar 1 July 2020 16: 37 New
      +5
      Probably a black man from BLM was allowed to drive ...
      In order. laughing
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 1 July 2020 18: 08 New
        +3
        Quote: kulinar
        Probably a black man from BLM was allowed to drive ...
        In order.

        The chief of staff of the US Air Force was appointed an African American, General Charles Brown, for the first time in American history, from his own words it is known that he was unloved by white colleagues.
        Apparently, the morale of American pilots is undermined.
        I am not a racist, I warn you right away.
        Freedom Angela Davis!
    2. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 2 July 2020 02: 13 New
      0
      Quote: HAM
      A mess in the streets began to get close to the army ...

      is selected ??? during the audit last year they lost 72 Minutmen! 72 ICBMs no one knows where! this is last year, to all kinds of mess on the streets. the fish rots from the head wink
  10. bubasa
    bubasa 1 July 2020 16: 17 New
    0
    and our army, God forbid everyone will be killed without our air defense;)
  11. Pavel73
    Pavel73 1 July 2020 16: 33 New
    +3
    If an American combat plane crashes, that's good. If a person died, this is bad.
  12. Oleg kubanoid
    Oleg kubanoid 1 July 2020 16: 42 New
    +4
    I do not support people who write that they are sorry that the pilot died .. States are an enemy country for us that will officially recognize us as an enemy .. therefore NATO military countries are direct enemies for us ..
  13. Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 1 July 2020 16: 50 New
    -6
    Putik go behind all this, not otherwise laughing .., and the minus in the pilots of the main criminals is a plus good
  14. agoran
    agoran 1 July 2020 16: 51 New
    +1
    In aviation, as a rule, the imposition of several factors leads to accidents and catastrophes.
    Minor equipment malfunctions, weather conditions, poor training of flight personnel, etc.
    And vice versa, with the failure of systems and high qualifications, it allows you to get out of the current situation with minimal damage.
    Amers, judging by the frequent accidents and disasters, we can assume that there are systemic problems. Or the training of flight personnel, ITS, or the state of aircraft, or all together.
  15. demiurg
    demiurg 1 July 2020 16: 59 New
    0
    If we talk about technical problems, this may push partners from the F-35 program. If you declare a human factor - the error of the pilots - this can cast a shadow on the training of fighter crews.

    As they say, when two DPS cars collide: The rules were violated by themselves.
    Well, you can still remember hot heads, there this topic is even better disclosed.
  16. SS-18
    SS-18 1 July 2020 17: 01 New
    10
    Quote: Machete
    But who has heard of this in China? I don’t remember any news about the accident. Or nothing falls there?

    -in China, nothing falls .. for nothing of its own and takes off) .. strictly on our engines!
  17. Irek
    Irek 1 July 2020 17: 22 New
    0
    Already announced who is to blame?
  18. alien308
    alien308 1 July 2020 17: 24 New
    0
    Nervousness at command, pilots, technicians? Because of an unknown crap that suddenly came.
  19. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 1 July 2020 18: 13 New
    0
    A trifle, but nice. More often than such news.
    1. Gosha Smirnov
      Gosha Smirnov 1 July 2020 22: 33 New
      +1
      what is it nice? Will they add sn for this? Women will start giving more often? Or what? What's so nice that the plane just crashed? It’s not shot down by the Russian air defense system or fighter, but it just fell down? You don’t understand that this has almost no effect to the highest power of the US Air Force and stupidly they will change planes to new ones faster than aircraft? So I do not understand this tsimus. Explain!
      1. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 2 July 2020 02: 58 New
        0
        So I do not understand this tsimus. Explain!

        He is glad that the man died. The technique is garbage, but to train a pilot is much more difficult and costly.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 2 July 2020 18: 25 New
          0
          This is when a conscript is sent to the draft board by a summons, I feel sorry for him. He may not want to join the army, but no one asks him. And the man who went into the army, navy, air force - consciously and purposefully, could not understand what it was fraught with. Are you sorry for this mattress? But I’m not at all. Such as he bombed Iraq, Syria, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, etc. He chose his fate. Could work as a proctologist or abortmacher.
          1. Jack O'Neill
            Jack O'Neill 2 July 2020 19: 18 New
            0
            And the man who joined the army, navy, and air force — consciously and purposefully, could not understand what this was fraught with.


            As I understand it, are you not sorry for our pilots too? After all, they consciously chose such a profession, knowing the risks, and that’s it?

            Such as he bombed Iraq, Syria, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, etc.

            So what?
            1. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer 2 July 2020 20: 04 New
              0
              Did your pilots bomb Yugoslavia or Iraq? Over the past 50 years, has Russia “poked its nose” into all holes, across the planet? Do not confuse warm and soft.
              1. Jack O'Neill
                Jack O'Neill 2 July 2020 21: 57 New
                0
                Did your pilots bomb Yugoslavia or Iraq?

                And who cares who bombed what? They ordered the soldier - the soldier complied with the order, that's all.
                And then, do you know who he bombed and when? And again: if you bombed, then what?

                Do not confuse warm and soft.

                I do not confuse and do not stomp all under one comb. For me, the pilot is first and foremost a man! He could have family, children, and friends. He was no different from you or me.
                Rejoicing in the death of a person is immoral, at least. And it doesn’t matter if it’s an enemy or a friend.
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 2 July 2020 18: 20 New
        0
        Why so much pathos?))))) The highest, most powerful))) only can not cope with blacks)))
        1. Gosha Smirnov
          Gosha Smirnov 2 July 2020 20: 51 New
          0
          How can “so much pathos” be in truth and in reality? Is the US Air Force not the most powerful in the world? Who are they more advanced? And if you don’t understand what is happening in the USA and what does the Negro have to do with it, don’t write stupid things and don’t bring parallels that are irrelevant to the merits of the issue. The United States is still in a position to deal with many people.
          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 3 July 2020 18: 44 New
            0
            Many with whom?))))) Tell me about Afghanistan, I was there, I'm interested. 17 years to cope, soon with a broken face faded)))
            1. Gosha Smirnov
              Gosha Smirnov 4 July 2020 00: 48 New
              0
              EVERYTHING necessary for the presence and observance of influence in the region and control over the country, as well as over key points for them, the United States possesses the capabilities in Afghanistan. us the Air Force more powerful p.i.nd .... sovskih can be?
              1. TermNachTer
                TermNachTer 4 July 2020 09: 52 New
                0
                What do they control there except Kabul, Bagram, Kandahar and several other cities?)))) 70% of the country's territory is not under their control.
                1. Gosha Smirnov
                  Gosha Smirnov 4 July 2020 23: 52 New
                  0
                  your friend is petty and not interesting. Come to visit when you learn to answer at least once an elementary question put down twice.
  20. Gosha Smirnov
    Gosha Smirnov 1 July 2020 22: 29 New
    0
    garbage. Rather, they will switch to f35. Amers have so much dough that they will fall at least five a day, but this will not significantly affect. Here the loss of the pilot is already a very unpleasant thing.
  21. Indifferent
    Indifferent 1 July 2020 23: 15 New
    0
    In Soviet times, a whole air army fell from the sky every year. True, then there were ten times more aircraft with us than now, but this is a fact. Now the accident rate is less, but not by much.
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 2 July 2020 02: 19 New
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      Quote: indifferent
      In Soviet times, a whole air army fell from the sky every year.

      umm ...
      Quote: indifferent
      Now the accident rate is less, but not by much.

      4/5 of the air army per year falls?
      how do you take it seriously after that? request
  22. Vlad Malkin
    Vlad Malkin 2 July 2020 00: 12 New
    +1
    Something often often recently began to fall American planes.
  23. Evil 55
    Evil 55 2 July 2020 07: 37 New
    +1
    Yes, fine ... For the Russian "Buk" rocket saved ..
  24. wow
    wow 2 July 2020 18: 11 New
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    Unfortunately, everything that walks on the seas - sinks, everything that flies - falls. I myself have experienced the second and more than once or twice.
  25. Johann Klassen
    Johann Klassen 2 July 2020 21: 21 New
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    Do not worry, the day will not pass, as they find the "culprits" in all the troubles of the American Reich.
    The main "culprit", according to the already "established tradition", the "talking heads" of the American shadow government will be "unmistakably" called the Russian President Vladimir Putin, the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the Russian Cyber ​​Military.
    And the main reason, "sloppiness and carelessness, low quality training, theft, violations of military regulations and instructions," corruption is small and great, "the Pentagon will not dare to say" never and nowhere ", including technological and operational errors.
    Yes, for someone, unfortunately, but for someone, and fortunately, the technique is not "perfect", and anyway.
  26. Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 3 July 2020 11: 20 New
    +1
    A trifle, but nice.