From fear to envy. The reaction of Ukrainians to amendments to the Constitution of Russia

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From fear to envy. The reaction of Ukrainians to amendments to the Constitution of Russia

Contrary to the attempts that have been ongoing since 2014 to drive the perception of Russia exclusively as an “aggressor country” into the heads of Ukrainian citizens, Russian political news They are often more lively than local scandals and squabbles. The forthcoming amendments to the basic law of Russia are no exception. In the "non-down" they are discussed, commented and evaluated. True, each in its own manner.

Of course, the attitude towards this issue differs radically: depending on which category the Ukrainians who show interest in it belong to. Those whose consciousness turned out to be irreparably crippled by the propaganda machine of Kiev, who see the enemy in Russia, eagerly repeat the semi-official horror stories about “strengthening totalitarianism”, “attack on rights and freedoms” and, of course, about “eternal Putin”. This is precisely the last moment of the "national patriots" that excites most of all, and not without reason.



If until now the most optimistic of them still cherished hope for a cardinal change of power in our country and, accordingly, for the new course of the Kremlin, now it is possible to put an end to it. As well as the dreams of “reformatting,” and, frankly, the collapse of Russia, which some in Kiev raved about. Moreover, references to the inadmissibility of alienation of any part of Russian territories appearing in the Constitution forever put an end to the question of the “return” of Crimea. And the country's direct obligation to “support compatriots abroad in protecting their interests” causes sad dread among those in the “unfinished” who are still seriously thinking about the “de-occupation of Donbass”.

In general, the result for the Russophobes there is sad: today they lament about the upcoming "cementing of the Russian authorities" and the invariability, or even toughening of the foreign policy of Moscow, which from now on intends to act without ever looking back at "international obligations" that do not meet its vital and geopolitical interests . The prospect looms rather unpleasant: amendments to the Constitution, which are likely to be adopted, do not promise those who have made militant Russophobia the basis of their political career, nothing good.

Other residents of Ukraine (and, believe me, there are much more such Kiev politicians than we would like), who continue to remain supporters of, if not fraternal, then at least normal and friendly relations with Russia, look at the matter completely to another. In this case, they are rather jealous of many points that some people criticize in the Russian Federation. Strengthening power, stability and immutability of the domestic political course? In a country that has not lived for the seventh year already, but exists in conditions of turmoil and Makhnovism, which is under open external control from abroad, one can only dream of this. The same applies to the consolidation in the basic law of traditional conservative values, from spiritual to family.

Whoever says anything, but a huge number of Ukrainians stubbornly imposed on them by “European integrators” and “patriots” new “life guidelines” in the form of reverence for Bandera rabble or “tolerance” for perverts remain deeply alien and unacceptable. Attempts to redraw the country for the sake of its real masters from the West have led only to a multitude of schisms that engulfed not only the Ukrainian church, but, in fact, the whole society. Against this background, the mention in the new version of the Russian Constitution of the inadmissibility of mockery of the memory and feat of the Great Patriotic War in all normal residents of Ukraine is encouraging and understanding.

Separately, it is worth mentioning the social block of amendments, which in today's “non-fallow”, where those in power are conducting an increasingly large-scale attack on precisely the last vestiges of the rights of their own fellow citizens in this area, looks especially tempting. If someone thinks that in Ukraine the broadest masses have not familiarized themselves with the appeal of the president of Russia to the citizens of Russia on June 23, then he is mistaken. Everyone saw his own in it, but here the words of Vladimir Vladimirovich about payments of ten thousand rubles for each child, from newborns to 16-year-olds, were noticed by all Ukrainians.

We noticed at least because they were made just after the scandalous statement of the head of the Verkhovna Rada committee on social policy and the protection of the rights of veterans Galina Tretyakova, according to which, the "poor" who turn to the state for social assistance for children need " to sterilize. " The difference, as they say, is obvious ... Here, no “pro-Russian propaganda” is necessary.

One more thing. To this day, in Ukraine, a lot of people look at Russia as the last hope, as a strong and reliable brother who sooner or later will come to the rescue and reach out to pull the Ukrainians out of the abyss in which the country found itself in 2014 . Those of them who have not yet despaired see in the forthcoming amendments to the Constitution a sign that this hope will come true.
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  1. +26
    1 July 2020 15: 07
    Suddenly dozens of dissatisfied freshly registered people appeared on our small-town forum
    Where ???
    1. +24
      1 July 2020 15: 18
      The site is popular .... the purpose of the site is to attract users and sell ads more expensive.
      1. -10
        1 July 2020 15: 21
        What kind of advertising?
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        2. -41
          1 July 2020 16: 00
          As for the topic of the article, it sounds like a joke. Although, all the propaganda of the current authorities sounds like a joke. Free advice to the author, at the beginning of such articles you need to write: we live in the most beautiful country in the world, and all other countries envy us .. fellow
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            1. -29
              1 July 2020 17: 06
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              along the way you are either a diving or because of the cordon of the Russian Federation, .. although I would have used my brains that were straining

              It looks like you are poorly acquainted with the rules of the site or simply forgotten due to various circumstances. Well, so I can help you refresh your memory wink

              The site is strictly prohibited:
              a) Mat in any form (open and veiled, the famous phrase of Lavrov "Morons, b ..." refers to the mat, dots of some letters "on x ...",), as well as quoting a comment with MAT, swearing ; insult and threats against the opponent. The rude form of speech ("ass", "shit", etc.) ("" also refers to obscenities, with the exception of articles about dog breeding).

              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              .a here it’s real Russian poverty ..

              Yes, yes, yes, I recognize the place in the picture. I regularly drive around the Garden Ring of Moscow and, unfortunately, often get caught in such traffic jams. Well, traffic jams today in all major cities, not only in Moscow. But it’s not customary to brag about them, but even vice versa. Okay, I’ll help you with the promotion of achievements. Here is the story of United Russia about real achievements
              1. +4
                1 July 2020 22: 10
                Che with the Smirnov Moder go under the arm ?????? I am not a supporter of the cons. but I would put it to you. but ... the soul does not order. you and so weakened, the main meaning you understand once rushed through the grid hysteria moderators ..... there was such a modernization Apollo-bright memory to him. ... and Smirnov ...... well, it’s understandable ...... and to you a note .... they don’t write in words on websites. and they print .... dolby it into their tower without a tower ... well, well, yes .... please Smirnov again
          2. +8
            1 July 2020 16: 59
            So, after all, the article was written by the author, whose skate was, is and will be Dill. He does not know other topics. As in that joke about fleas.
            1. -24
              1 July 2020 17: 19
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              So, after all, the article was written by the author, whose skate was, is and will be Dill. He does not know other topics. As in that joke about fleas.

              Yes, yes, yes .. First there were articles about HSP, then about Ukraine is about to fall apartNow Ukrainians envy us lol Good author good But seriously, we only deserve these, probably, unfortunately crying
              1. +32
                1 July 2020 17: 30
                At first there were articles about KhPP, then about Ukraine it was about to fall apart, now Ukrainians envy us lol Good author

                The author just modestly ... but I won't, what was the "square" promised? )))
                1. -30
                  1 July 2020 17: 49
                  Quote: lucul
                  The author just modestly ... but I won't, what was the "square" promised? )))

                  Vitaly, perhaps, for the sake of justice, we recall the promises of Gorbachev, Yeltsin and Putin, ah? And where does Saakashvili (be he even cursed at least three times) in this company, I don’t understand? request
                  1. +6
                    2 July 2020 22: 33
                    Zelensky is already afraid to promise. wink
                    But Saakashvili is not yet afraid.
                2. +5
                  2 July 2020 09: 10
                  2025 - like in Zimbabwe
                3. -18
                  2 July 2020 09: 14
                  But we have .. stabilizer ..))
                  1. 0
                    4 July 2020 19: 36
                    Roman1234567.Nothing good in life? Believe me, this is not a cause for disappointment! After all, they say fools are lucky. Are you unlucky? Everything, then you are not!
                4. 0
                  7 July 2020 17: 55
                  Lukashenko, 26 years old, has been singing the same deferambs to her people. And that, they endure, they endure the campaign until August.
              2. +9
                2 July 2020 09: 34
                I noticed your srach on all topics related to amendments and domestic policy of the Russian Federation. Work hard, young man. What they pay - hryvnias, dollars, rubles .... or are cookies really)))) belay
              3. +14
                2 July 2020 10: 42
                Quote: mdsr
                then only we deserve it

                In my opinion, you deserve a good flogging, preferably with rods. From this, the brain wakes up and begins to work actively. I live in Ukraine and I really envy the good that you have competent authority, and not like our rag dolls.
                1. 0
                  6 July 2020 13: 41
                  And who didn’t let do their goodwill, that’s a hooligan!
          3. +3
            1 July 2020 17: 26
            fellow

            Spread without reflecting, right? )))
            1. -27
              1 July 2020 17: 34
              Quote: lucul
              fellow

              Spread without reflecting, right? )))

              No, Vitaly, you misunderstood. There it was fellow. In text form, it is written fellow. Just in the process of editing, I, apparently by accident, deleted the square brackets to it or some other sign, that’s what’s left request I didn’t invest any secret meaning in it.
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            1. +11
              1 July 2020 18: 43
              Yes, yes, the old version of the constitution, but it was a wow, straight sex giant laughing
              1. +3
                1 July 2020 22: 42
                the old version of the constitution, but it was a wow, just a sex giant


                Who cares what they write in the constitutions? As in the joke - "and you, grandfather, no one bothers to say that seven times every night you can." All the same, these constitutions are changed whenever they want. This is not Ohm's law, which everyone always observes.
            2. +12
              1 July 2020 18: 44
              Quote: make
              The new version of the constitution of the Russian Federation is like castration of a man!

              Yes. the US embassy also disapproves, they hung a rainbow-colored flag in protest. You are now in mourning .. lol lol
          5. -19
            1 July 2020 22: 40
            Quote: mdsr
            As for the topic of the article, it sounds like a joke. Although, all the propaganda of the current authorities sounds like a joke. Free advice to the author, at the beginning of such articles you need to write: we live in the most beautiful country in the world, and all other countries envy us .. fellow

            Bravo.
          6. +10
            2 July 2020 08: 34
            mdsr, judging by the avatar on the YouTube video (well, not yet used!) you chose that part of the garbage content, which besides filth (and only in Russia ... nothing is published about the USA there) can’t publish anything ... you are from there from this garbage dump?
            1. +2
              3 July 2020 14: 01
              A very similar woman (the one who rummages in the trash) lived in the house opposite in the 80s. Every six months, her son came to her in a truck and with his comrades unloaded her apartment, into which she almost to the ceiling dragged the "necessary" things from the trash cans. There have always been sick people.
              1. 0
                6 July 2020 22: 33
                there really is a disease confirmed by doctors, when a person drags what has got into the house to infinity. Here - sitting on a salary, not very suitable for the term "disease".
          7. -2
            2 July 2020 09: 08
            On your own, say it
        3. +2
          1 July 2020 16: 51
          Wot, for example ....
    2. +1
      1 July 2020 15: 18
      Is that you, here, calling you shtetl?
      1. 0
        1 July 2020 15: 20
        VO is certainly more popular than our regional AI.Tut bots appear more often and fatter.
        You need to think about the essence before writing and blowing lips hi
        1. +3
          2 July 2020 03: 07
          Take the same sibnet ... since 2014 there has been such an influx of "angry Siberians"
    3. 0
      1 July 2020 15: 20
      Let Ukrainians envy. They think. And they join Russia.

      But let them be ready to be tested for Bandera and "vaccinations" against it.
      1. +23
        1 July 2020 15: 26
        nafig nafig
        still have to feed these
        let yourself, as you wish, self-sufficient
      2. +9
        1 July 2020 15: 30
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        And they join Russia.

        Do you need this?
        Did you want to feed again? Few of their parasites and embezzlers, will we add these too?
      3. 0
        1 July 2020 16: 19
        Quote: Ilya-spb

        But let them be ready to be tested for Bandera and "vaccinations" against it

        Yes, they themselves have already "prepared" quite well for the future test by registering on various Bandera-oriented websites.
        1. 0
          4 July 2020 19: 43
          Sergey39, if someone should be tracking this movement.! And they do not care!
          1. 0
            4 July 2020 19: 50
            I think that they track with us. And they also have reasonable people. And if they do not care, they will be worse.
            1. 0
              4 July 2020 19: 54
              Sergey39, The most dangerous thing is that they in the Kremlin and the FSB do not care. Have you ever watched how many flawed appeared with Russian panties on Russian TV?
              1. +1
                4 July 2020 20: 06
                I do not watch TV.
      4. +9
        1 July 2020 16: 20
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        But let them be ready to be tested for Bandera and "vaccinations" against it.

        The NKVD will have to be restored.
        1. -3
          1 July 2020 17: 15
          so after all, the NKVD is the first thing to do with the reset and will come request
        2. 0
          3 July 2020 18: 44
          There is rather a question about Stalin 2,0 ...
      5. +2
        1 July 2020 16: 22
        Do we need it? Only, only the debts of the Union were paid. Why do we need Ukraine with its exorbitant debts?
        1. -6
          1 July 2020 20: 00
          You would probably have given Voronezh and Crimea right away. Why feed Rostov? Let him also live separately.
          1. +6
            1 July 2020 20: 08
            Pick up a lip. Dusty. Voronezh and Crimea Russia !!! Russia feeds itself.
            1. -12
              1 July 2020 20: 41
              But Kiev is not Russia for you? Is this the one that the mother of Russian cities is foreign to you? He does not need to be fed?
              Then why Voronezh is remarkable for you, there people speak the same dialect of Russian.
              1. +10
                1 July 2020 20: 50
                Kiev? Not. Let the EU feed. Or Nuland sends his baking. Bandaged Kiev.
                1. -6
                  1 July 2020 21: 07
                  Hitler would have told you the same thing in 1943. What will the EU feed Kiev, and that residents are happy with the new government.
                2. 0
                  2 July 2020 10: 49
                  Quote: Captive
                  Bandaged Kiev.

                  Do not confuse a shop window with a household yard. And do not write yourself in the judges and commanders.
              2. 0
                2 July 2020 22: 16
                Quote: Herman 4223
                But Kiev is not Russia for you? Is this the one that the mother of Russian cities is foreign to you?

                Well, if this mother is masculine, then he has a place where he is now. And in the new spelling it was built by someone Kui! Well, strike with him!
              3. +1
                2 July 2020 23: 50
                Quote: Herman 4223
                Voronezh, there people speak the same dialect of Russian.

                Well, well, well, about the dialect in more detail
                1. -3
                  3 July 2020 07: 25
                  You don’t think that they speak Ukrainian in Kiev? This is the most natural Russian city, I was in Kiev and in Voronezh people say it seems. And it’s certainly not Ukrainian.
                  1. +1
                    3 July 2020 08: 16
                    I asked, in more detail! What kind of dialect do I, a resident of Voronezh speak?
                    1. -1
                      3 July 2020 10: 08
                      Go somewhere north of Moscow where I live, you will see that the dialect is slightly different. Yes, in Kiev the same as in your city. I say that it is Russian.
                      1. 0
                        3 July 2020 15: 26
                        Uncle, for example, as a child, I spent every summer in the Gorky and Arkhangelsk regions, and you seem to be farther south than "north of Moscow", and even more so in Kiev you have never been.
                        And so, again: in more detail, in what such dialect do I, a resident of Voronezh speak?
                      2. 0
                        3 July 2020 19: 08
                        I don’t know what touched you in my comments, but I was in Ukraine three times, traveled to Crimea when he was still Ukrainian, went to relatives in Chernigov, from there rode to Kiev, accompanied by two pretty girls, by the way, it was true even before my wife. I also visited you in Voronezh twice, though one day in total because of travel to the sea. But a relative lives here from Voronezh, he left for a long time in Tver, but he still has a different dialect. If you don’t know what dialect they speak in your city, then I’ll say in the southern dialect of the Russian language.
                      3. 0
                        3 July 2020 19: 53
                        And so, if I understood correctly, then in Kiev and in Voronezh they speak
                        Quote: Herman 4223
                        Southern dialect of the Russian language.

                        And in Tver, then on which?
                      4. +1
                        3 July 2020 20: 25
                        Oh, and you are meticulous Ilya Nikitich, or are you interested in dialects? So this is not for you then. Maybe the Internet will help you. And the fact that the people in Kiev are the same Russian as in Chernigov or in your city or I have a fact. But something seems to me that you are not from Voronezh, but from Ukraine. It really hurt you that Kiev was Russian.
                      5. 0
                        3 July 2020 20: 42
                        No uncle outraged me that VORONEZH is Ukrainian.
                        Regarding dialects, the Internet will help you: "A dialect is a full-fledged system of verbal communication (oral or sign, but not necessarily written) with its own vocabulary and grammar. (C) Wiki.
                        So here I am, and everyone with whom I happen to communicate in Voronezh - they speak a normal, literary RUSSIAN language. Residents of the Nizhny Novgorod and Arkhangelsk regions speak the normal, literary RUSSIAN language (maybe only a little okay, and Voronezh people a little okay). I was convinced of this again last summer, when relatives came to me.
                        My friend who has lived 25 years in the Far East speaks - speaks a normal, literary RUSSIAN language.
                        And only one very clever Tverican (or Tver?) Tells us all that we speak not only in dialect, but also in Kuevsky.
                        It would be fine about the fact that Kuev and Voronezh speak the same language was told by a maskvach, for whom "there is no life beyond the Moscow Ring Road."
                        In the early 90s I could not understand why my colleagues (who directly worked with the client) called the client "TV Ar Universal Bank" now I seem to begin to understand.
                        And yes, for the sake of justice, we must admit that in the villages on the border with ukroina, they speak surzhik.
                      6. 0
                        3 July 2020 20: 54
                        Where did you see me that Voronezh is Ukrainian! ????, Voronezh Russian, Kiev Russian, Even Zhytomyr Russian I have an aunt from there she does not know Ukrainian. I came to Chernigov for the first time in shock, the Ukrainian language is only on TV, all people speak Russian, but a little shock, but this is the most natural Russian, not even surzhik. And in Kiev, the same thing is absolutely.
                      7. 0
                        3 July 2020 21: 18
                        I do not understand, but what about
                        Quote: Herman 4223
                        in the southern dialect of the Russian language.

                        Again
                        Quote: Ilya Nikitich
                        A dialect is a full-fledged system of verbal communication (oral or symbolic, but not necessarily written) with its own dictionary and grammar. (C) Wiki.
                      8. 0
                        3 July 2020 21: 23
                        Uncle, why didn’t you compare Tver with kuev? After all, are they all Russians, or is Tver special? Enough to remember Voronezh in vain. You that Voronezh salt poured on ***?
                      9. -1
                        3 July 2020 22: 31
                        Tver is generally special, it was also the capital, it fought with Moscow for this. And Yes, I have accounts for you laughing When I rode around Voronezh, somewhere in the private sector I drove into such a puddle, already there was a water hood. And the next day I found out that the generator stopped charging, I had to call in for repairs in Rostov. And he lost money and at sea almost a day later he got there.
                      10. -2
                        3 July 2020 23: 19
                        Well, you see, Kuev was the capital, but Voronezh was not. So you and the Kuevlins are twin brothers. Voronezh just does not need to be aligned with either kuev or Tver. And yes, next time you go to the sea, you go around Voronezh. We are simple people here Cuevo-Tver dialect do not understand.
                      11. 0
                        7 July 2020 16: 28
                        Quote: Ilya Nikitich
                        And yes, for the sake of justice, we must admit that in the villages on the border with ukroina, they speak surzhik.

                        And not only surzhik throughout the Kuban is common.
          2. +7
            1 July 2020 21: 33
            Quote: Herman 4223
            Why feed Rostov?

            Uhhhh! And Rostov is mine for what stop
            1. 0
              2 July 2020 06: 52
              For the lack of historical memory. Our grandfathers fought for Kiev, perished. This is a Russian city, the same as Rostov. If the people meekly give away part of their territory today, then tomorrow they will give the rest. And your Rostov will not understand with whom and with what. And the rest will say that it is not necessary to feed this city, let it be cooked in its porridge.
              1. +3
                2 July 2020 13: 59
                Grandfathers died for Warsaw, Sofia and Budapest! And now what with these ......! am
                1. +1
                  2 July 2020 14: 11
                  And with these now the fact that our fatherland surrendered and the allies, too. They are now ruled by our historical enemies with all the ensuing circumstances.
                  1. -2
                    3 July 2020 21: 36
                    Ahh, so these are podlies and all sorts of Romanians and Czechs in the late 80s cried - "Russia don't leave us, we don't want to join NATO" And Russia took and handed them over, straight to NATO. Experiments.
              2. -2
                3 July 2020 21: 32
                Uncle, you forgot the Russians meekly did not give up part of their territory. In 1991 former Russians (Ukrainians) chose non-fallowment.
                Ukroinets - a Russian who betrayed his story, his ancestors, including grandfathers who fought for Kiev, perished.
            2. -2
              3 July 2020 14: 03
              Quote: major147
              And Rostov is mine for what

              And what benefit does it bring to Russia? Neither oil is there, nor gas.
              1. 0
                7 July 2020 16: 29
                Quote: Narak-zempo
                Quote: major147
                And Rostov is mine for what

                And what benefit does it bring to Russia? Neither oil is there, nor gas.

                In Moscow, too. How, give?
                1. +1
                  7 July 2020 17: 22
                  Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                  In Moscow, too. How, give?

                  There are finances in Moscow, resources in Siberia, and only the population in the rest of Russia.
        2. +1
          3 July 2020 20: 31
          Quote: Captive
          Why do we need Ukraine with its exorbitant debts?

          Do not pull, and even pay pensions, just do not pull.
      6. 0
        2 July 2020 13: 57
        Why do you need this? Sala do not give a lot, they will run again, but at least to the Turks! lol and they will stink!
    4. +9
      1 July 2020 15: 23
      It's just that there are fewer and fewer opportunities for commenting elsewhere. The risk for the owners of media or websites. For example, the 'Moscow Cro-Magnon' / or whatever it was / a month ago quietly removed commenting. And here there are interesting materials.
      1. +3
        1 July 2020 15: 25
        Amur AI is not much different from the echo of Moscow
        But these dull few bots, trying the same thing every day
        Such a UG hi
      2. -19
        1 July 2020 15: 26
        This one, for example. Written in the style of 'Our Rashi': 'and all other countries envy us ...'.
        1. +16
          1 July 2020 15: 28
          if you have a rush state, then at least you are not a citizen of Russia
          I also treat freaks with tnt
          1. +4
            1 July 2020 20: 15
            I have quotes there, right? This transmission was on TV. Texts like this:
            "We live in the best country in the world, and all other countries envy us. After all, we are the ones who grow apples and hang around pears. It was we who came up with the idea of ​​swimming in fountains and wiping ourselves on the curtain. These are our gates that are the darkest, and the corners are the wettest. in our country for every ugly girl there are 42 liters of vodka. It is in our country that there is everything except 11 normal football players ... We proudly call our country Russia, and foreigners enviously say Russia. But still, she is ours! "
      3. 0
        3 July 2020 14: 04
        Quote: Dmitry10SPb
        'Moscow Cro-Magnon'

        Neanderthal, rather. If not pithecanthropus.
    5. +23
      1 July 2020 15: 37
      I don’t know about you, but I’m allergic to articles about Ukraine
    6. -6
      1 July 2020 15: 52
      Apparently, from there, from non-brotherly.
      1. +3
        1 July 2020 18: 50
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        Apparently, from there, from non-brotherly.

        Judging by the minuses to you, they dropped landing on the site today, from the wide Ukrainians. hi
    7. +1
      1 July 2020 17: 44
      There have always been enough dissatisfied here ...
      1. +8
        1 July 2020 18: 04
        Dissatisfied always and everywhere abound.
        This is the reality of this world!
        1. -6
          1 July 2020 18: 34
          "Ukrainians are jealous" .... yeah. In Russia, somehow, it is not customary to write the truth about Ukraine, otherwise the carefully created Kisel TV and others, the image of a "loser country", "404 country" will collapse .... But if you write the truth, then it is inconvenient, well, for example, they know whether Russian pensioners say that in Ukraine there is still free travel for pensioners on public transport and intercity electric trains? Probably they do not know, otherwise they would be "envious" ...
          1. +6
            1 July 2020 19: 08
            Quote: Snail N9
            Do Russian pensioners know that in Ukraine there is still free travel for pensioners on public transport and intercity electric trains

            Let's envy TOGETHER, because we also have free travel for pensioners in municipal public transport. One thing is bad, this transport is not so much and not everywhere.
            Did you not know?
            1. -13
              1 July 2020 19: 12
              Oh yeah! Exactly! I found out from my wife (already a pensioner) - and we have free travel for pensioners on public, municipal transport (maybe on electric cars?). This means that we are equally "good". wink
              1. +4
                1 July 2020 19: 26
                Quote: Snail N9
                This means that we are equally "good".

                Not good! Because municipal enterprises are degrading and there are fewer flights !!!
                I live in the country, we have a summer residence !!! accordingly, a lot of pensioners travel .... and bus trips, less and less.
                I don’t have to compare with anyone, find Schaub, indicate where we are not good.
                However, I realize that there are countries where everything is much worse, but for us this should not be any example for comparison.
                1. -3
                  1 July 2020 19: 38
                  Some people say that their pensioners can even ride city minibuses for free, but! ..... minibuses: some limit the number of pensioners in the minibus cabin to no more than 5 people, and some, when they see that, stand alone at the stop the elderly pass her and stop a little further so that they can drop off the passengers and leave quickly, as long as the pensioners have not taken a stop.
                  1. +2
                    1 July 2020 19: 50
                    Many have learned to tell tales ... only they cannot publish compilations of their nonsense.
                    But the scouts also want to eat, he will avoid free passengers in all available ways.
                    We have got scooters, mini buses, although they are private traders, they are obliged to carry pensioners free of charge.
              2. -1
                1 July 2020 21: 41
                Quote: Snail N9
                This means that we are equally "good".

                My sister, a pensioner from Kiev, is leaving for the winter with her daughter in Germany, because if you pay for a communal apartment, then you have nothing to live on for a month. And personally, I, a Russian pensioner, have no such problems. With a pension of 33.000 rubles. in winter the communal apartment comes out 5-6 thousand, in the summer, yesterday it paid - about 2 thousand. His house is more than 200 "squares".
                1. -2
                  1 July 2020 23: 37
                  Well, if you had the smallest pension in Russia, then everything is fine, but not all so far .... My parents worked all their lives in the public sector, without loss of experience, in a white salary, deducting to all organizations not with The minimum wages are for two less than your pension, and this is still with the regional coefficient ...
                  I myself have a pension of 19, and a communal apartment in winter for kopeck piece 8, without TV, Internet and communication.
                  Live in Russia
                  1. +1
                    1 July 2020 23: 41
                    Quote: Gvardeetz77
                    I myself have a pension of 19,

                    The wife is a pensioner - a doctor, she has a pension like yours. This is Rostov on the Don.
                  2. +3
                    2 July 2020 08: 31
                    Quote: Gvardeetz77
                    I myself have a pension of 19, and a communal apartment in winter for kopeck piece 8, without TV, internet and communication.
                    Live in Russia

                    what And write to the site from a neighbor's computer ???
                  3. +1
                    3 July 2020 13: 17
                    I myself have a pension of 19, and a communal apartment in winter for kopeck piece 8, without TV, Internet and communication.

                    A subsidy too lazy to use? Or are you lying?
              3. 0
                3 July 2020 13: 20
                I found out from my wife (already a pensioner) - and we have free travel for pensioners

                Well, that is, you live with your wife, go somewhere together yourself pay your wife does not pay and you DO NOT notice THIS., Well, you lie, but do not lie lol
                1. 0
                  3 July 2020 21: 42
                  Do you ride with your wife all the time? She does not let you go alone, or you?
          2. +2
            1 July 2020 21: 14
            Well, as be with us too. Woke up today?
          3. +2
            2 July 2020 11: 00
            Quote: Snail N9
            what is still in Ukraine, free travel for pensioners on public transport and intercity electric trains?

            Here it is happiness! And also for the participants of the ATO. True, the prices of medicines are exorbitant, so it is. Pensioners are treated with folk remedies, and they have not visited pharmacies before. And the fact that the guarantor sells the country to an American official and like water from a goose is the little things in life - you cannot spread them on bread.
          4. 0
            2 July 2020 20: 28
            I do not know. Only on trolleybuses and trams, and then only for local ones. smile
            And now even on these types of transport you have to pay in the morning and evening, even for the disabled smile
    8. +7
      1 July 2020 21: 24
      Quote: kot28.ru
      Suddenly dozens of dissatisfied freshly registered people appeared on our small-town forum
      Where ???

      The tranche of money has come.
    9. 0
      2 July 2020 10: 08
      Quote: kot28.ru
      Suddenly dozens of dissatisfied freshly registered people appeared on our small-town forum
      Where ???

      Yes, everything is from there, from the zoo of fake cats laughing
    10. 0
      3 July 2020 05: 33
      Why, for the sake of a small town, that you’re imagining yourself as a sir, I’ve been reading comments and user articles for two years, I still didn’t want to enter into a dialogue. But it’s just apparently the time has come to talk. And for the future I’m not from Ukraine, despite the nickname. And from Novosibirsk this is for the future.
    11. 0
      3 July 2020 14: 20
      Quote: kot28.ru
      shtetl forum

      I'll tell you a secret - this "shtetl forum "is a full-fledged media outlet with a license and accreditation
    12. 0
      4 July 2020 19: 23
      kot28. You can’t even imagine what clients are registered here. Even from the site moderators.
  2. +1
    1 July 2020 15: 20
    To this day, in Ukraine, many people look at Russia as their last hope, as a strong and reliable brother, who sooner or later will come to the rescue and lend a hand ...

    "- Never, never Vorobyaninov extended his hand!
    - So stretch your legs, you old fool! "(C)
    from something I remembered ...
  3. -1
    1 July 2020 15: 38
    Ukrainians envy what?
    What could Poroshenko turn out to be the eternal president?
    Or do they want Zelensky to be imprisoned for life?
    1. -5
      1 July 2020 15: 45
      How to what?
      That Russia can do it. That the initiative of the President is supported by parliaments of all levels, and that the referendum will confirm that the initiative is also supported locally. And in Ukraine (I emphasize "IN UKRAINE") all initiatives of the President, any, are suppressed in the bud.
      That's actually all that can be envied.
      1. +1
        1 July 2020 15: 53
        And North Korea does not envy us yet? Gabon may or Burundi, Liberia must have been envious, Guinea, Niger, Chad ...
        Have held a referendum in (on) Ukraine on the topic Do you envy Russia?
        Conducted a survey among four respondents in a shared kitchen in Odessa?
        Really it’s not funny to yourself that in (in) Ukraine they envy? Yes, they hate Putin, and they don’t want to hear about him, but you are supposedly taking ....
        1. -3
          1 July 2020 16: 34
          you don’t have to suffer so much in a hated country and sit like a stump;)
          "In reality, it's not funny yourself that people in (in) Ukraine are jealous? They hate Putin and don't want to hear about him, but you are supposedly taking the envy of Ukrainians ...."
          funny, with you;)
          while Vladimir Vladimirovich you hate, and reading many from Ukraine, it becomes clear that God settling you in Russia messed up something, can you go to the twin cities? ;)
          1. +1
            2 July 2020 14: 07
            I wonder who it minuses you? And, most importantly, WHAT ?!
        2. +2
          1 July 2020 18: 25
          Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
          Really it’s not funny to yourself that in (in) Ukraine they envy?

          Here you are right, in Ukraine they are jealous, if a neighbor receives a large salary, or the inheritance of a neighbor is overwhelmed, a Ukrainian has nothing to envy. And for a Ukrainian, it is always worse in Russia than in Ukraine. So the article is about nothing.
          1. -5
            1 July 2020 22: 50
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
            Really it’s not funny to yourself that in (in) Ukraine they envy?

            Here you are right, in Ukraine they are jealous, if a neighbor receives a large salary, or the inheritance of a neighbor is overwhelmed, a Ukrainian has nothing to envy. And for a Ukrainian, it is always worse in Russia than in Ukraine. So the article is about nothing.

            It may be enough to repeat the ancient cliches about h.o.h.l.o.v. Look in the mirror
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        4. 0
          3 July 2020 21: 52
          Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
          Yes, they hate Putin, and they don’t want to hear about him, but you are supposedly taking ....

          Exactly, but at the same time they do not miss any of his performances on TV. Despite the fact that Russian media are forbidden VNA. This is how one should hate to look and listen despite prohibitions?
      2. +4
        1 July 2020 18: 33
        Quote: mark2
        That the President’s initiative is supported by parliaments of all levels

        laughing How are we doing the May decrees and paying doctors for coronavirus?
        1. 0
          7 July 2020 16: 34
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: mark2
          That the President’s initiative is supported by parliaments of all levels

          laughing How are we doing the May decrees and paying doctors for coronavirus?

          And silence was his answer ... Because they hadn’t delivered manuals on this topic, but the speaker himself has nothing to say ...
      3. +1
        2 July 2020 11: 04
        Quote: mark2
        That's actually all that can be envied.

        And you can also envy how they entered the course of NATO into the Ukrainian constitution, while the residents were not asked.
    2. +2
      1 July 2020 16: 28
      Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
      Or do they want Zelensky to be imprisoned for life?

      You chose him, you decide. And envy is not a good thing.
    3. -5
      1 July 2020 16: 31
      Are you Ukrainian or Liberos? ;)
  4. +10
    1 July 2020 15: 43
    About the stylization of the poor, it’s rightly noted, this is one of the secrets of the ideology of LGBT liberals ... Such sovereignty and social policy, as Ukrainians are not seen in Russia. You lost your freedom and country when you rode on the Maidan wassat
    1. +7
      1 July 2020 16: 44
      Quote: Tank jacket
      You lost your freedom and country when you rode on the Maidan

      I remember theirs first Maidan, under Yushchenko, when the announcer out of happiness listed his merits. "His jacket is orange, and his tie is the same, and his shoes and even laces are orange." And then the "orange" revolution kyrdyk, and the revolution of "guidnosti" came, and again everything flew into the trash of "lustration", but a revolution of "servants of the people" broke out, what are all the beautiful names, and the great ideas of independence and greatness. So what are you guys jealous of, you have one hundred percent entertainment, then "Maidan" is a revolution. Dance, download, what else you need. And somewhere by the spring, rather by the pasque, arrange something new. To be continued, but for now, download, who does not jump that Moskal.
      1. +3
        1 July 2020 17: 19
        In Russia, we also have maydaunas and other LGBT people ... Today they will ride on Pushkinskaya ...
        1. +2
          2 July 2020 14: 13
          It’s a pity it’s impossible to figure out vests in Paris! And yet - and let them swell on August 2, eh? wassat
          1. -3
            2 July 2020 14: 19
            And what kind of date is this August 2? hi
            1. +2
              3 July 2020 14: 27
              This date is widely known in narrow circles. lol lol lol - when it is better to be proaative not to go outside ....
              1. -2
                3 July 2020 14: 33
                Clearly, the day of the paratrooper! lol
  5. +10
    1 July 2020 15: 44
    To envy a bad feeling ... As I understand it: only Ukrainians, the rest of Belarusians, Balts, Moldavians, Transnistrians, Abkhazians, South Ossetians, Georgians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Kazakhs, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Turkmens envy ... They succeed the Constitution is even better than in Ukraine and in Ukraine ...
    1. -1
      1 July 2020 15: 56
      And many Ukrainians, when there was Maidan, indifferently passed by and did not intervene, such as my hut from the edge. Well, what happened in the end? From the edge of the hut? And now the land where the hut stands and the organs for sale ...
      1. -2
        2 July 2020 11: 08
        Quote: Tank jacket
        And many Ukrainians, when there was Maidan, indifferently passed by and did not intervene, such as my hut from the edge.

        What should they do? Tell me if so smart.
        1. +3
          2 July 2020 11: 10
          Get up and defend the Golden Eagle, disperse the Maidan. And thanks for the compliment good
          1. -2
            2 July 2020 15: 18
            Quote: Tank jacket
            Get up and defend the Golden Eagle, disperse the Maidan

            In fact, the task of the Golden Eagle is to protect the people, including and disperse the Maidan. And they would have dispersed, if not for the betrayal of Yanukovych.
            1. +1
              2 July 2020 15: 22
              So I say, your hut from the edge ...
    2. +3
      1 July 2020 18: 37
      Quote: parusnik
      the rest of the Belarusians, the Baltic states, Moldavians, Transnistria ....

      ... whoever survives as best they can. They don’t care about constitutions
      1. -1
        2 July 2020 10: 07
        Quote: Silvestr
        .. who survive as best they can. They don’t care about constitutions

        You are right, we are not up to the Constitutions and amendments, we need to work and support families.
        1. -1
          2 July 2020 14: 15
          It's right! And envy is the worst feeling! drinks
    3. -2
      2 July 2020 14: 14
      Not because! We are not envious, because it is YOUR Constitution! hi
  6. +1
    1 July 2020 16: 14
    The prospect looms rather unpleasant: amendments to the Constitution, which are likely to be adopted, do not promise those who have made militant Russophobia the basis of their political career, nothing good.

    If only they ...
    We noticed at least because they were made just after the scandalous statement of the head of the Verkhovna Rada committee on social policy and the protection of the rights of veterans Galina Tretyakova, according to which, the "poor" who turn to the state for social assistance for children need " to sterilize. " The difference, as they say, is obvious ... Here, no “pro-Russian propaganda” is necessary.

    Well, we also have enough of these gentiles, who first speak, and then think what they said. And Shapkozakidalovo from 10 thousand, once in a lifetime, also did not increase euphoria. If the allowance for all minors made 10 thousand .....
  7. +1
    1 July 2020 16: 17
    And, obvious hohlosliv massively went .... I remember every time a chic picture from a chic series

    1. 0
      1 July 2020 16: 33
      Our Russian Maydaunas and other liberals and LGBT people today will ride on Pushkin Square. LGBT Embassy in the Russian Federation hangs the flag of the mattress upside down wassat This is a signal to our LGBT liberals.
      And we mark them with indelible paint, like Hong Kong wassat
  8. +2
    1 July 2020 16: 35
    Quote: Junior Ensign
    And North Korea does not envy us yet? Gabon may or Burundi, Liberia must have been envious, Guinea, Niger, Chad ...
    Have held a referendum in (on) Ukraine on the topic Do you envy Russia?
    Conducted a survey among four respondents in a shared kitchen in Odessa?
    Really it’s not funny to yourself that in (in) Ukraine they envy? Yes, they hate Putin, and they don’t want to hear about him, but you are supposedly taking ....

    you have something mixed up with horses, people, the cuisine of Odessa, Ukrainians ........ you somehow separate your personal discontent from Ukrainian discontent)))) And their hatred of GDP does not shake him from the word at all, he is not their president
  9. -1
    1 July 2020 16: 41
    for me it’s enough to point out what they are discussing ... give examples so that they themselves can appreciate these discussions and stop ..... the emotions of Ukrainians and Ukraine are uninteresting and insignificant - because there is info noise and no more
  10. +4
    1 July 2020 16: 48
    Quote: Junior Ensign
    Ukrainians envy what?
    What could Poroshenko turn out to be the eternal president?
    Or do they want Zelensky to be imprisoned for life?

    mmmmm .... maybe I'm wondering about the coffee grounds - maybe the author of the article meant jealousy in general for the possibility of such a procedure as a popular vote on amendments to the constitution ???? I’ll just notice - you are distorting a fig-sharp cheater .. and it’s so clumsy and embarrassing that it’s a shame))) I did not see the names of the presidential contenders in the newsletter. If you saw, tell me where I am also burning with righteous anger. Let me remind you - it’s about making amendments, and the election of the Preza is with us, if I am not mistaken in 2024 and not earlier
  11. +3
    1 July 2020 16: 50
    Quote: tihonmarine
    But let them be ready to be tested for Bandera and "vaccinations" against it.

    A type Beria find ??? Everything worked pretty cool for him ...
    1. +4
      2 July 2020 15: 25
      Quote: Joker62
      A type Beria find ??? Everything worked pretty cool for him.

      You cannot find such competent professionals in the afternoon with fire. For whatever Lavrenty undertook, everything worked out. A manager who solved all the tasks, and not just the current dudes with high self-esteem.
  12. -1
    1 July 2020 17: 15
    Ukrainians are progressing. Soon Papua New Guinea will be forced to envy.
    And justifiably.
    But this does not mean that the Papuans have all the problems behind and everything is fine with them. It’s just that Ukrainians are very bad.
    But ... they deserved, in general and on average, like that Russian old woman from Crimea, who in 2004 namaydanya on the washing machine shouting in the general choir "Yu-puppy!" And then she wondered - how is it, what a scoundrel !? Look at him. And I had to look at myself.
    And on the other hand, Vesta's voted TVs and laptops are playing games. Freebie - it's delicious ...
  13. 0
    1 July 2020 17: 25
    What to envy? That's what they abandoned. This is only part.
    Article 1

    All people are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and must act towards each other in a spirit of brotherhood.

    Article 3

    Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

    Article 4

    No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade are prohibited in all their forms.

    Article 7

    All people are equal before the law and are entitled, without distinction, to equal protection of the law. All people have the right to equal protection against any discrimination that violates this Declaration, and against any incitement to such discrimination.

    Article 25

    1. Everyone has the right to such a standard of living, including food, clothing, housing, medical care and the necessary social services that are necessary to maintain the health and well-being of himself and his family, and the right to provision in case of unemployment, illness, disability, widowhood, the onset of old age or another case of loss of livelihood due to circumstances beyond its control.
    2. Motherhood and infancy give the right to special care and assistance. All children born in or out of wedlock should enjoy the same social protection.
    1. -1
      3 July 2020 14: 19
      Quote: imobile2008
      What to envy? That's what they abandoned. This is only part.

      The "common man" was drawn.
  14. +1
    1 July 2020 17: 27
    The author is a noble dreamer
    In Ukraine, as a matter of fact, the amendments that were voted were heard except for zeroing.
    1. 0
      2 July 2020 11: 17
      Quote: Avior
      The author is a noble dreamer
      In Ukraine, as a matter of fact, the amendments that were voted were heard except for zeroing.

      They screamed, but people heard everything that was needed. I noticed that on TV the process of changing shoes is picking up pace. Some are smarter, reasonable things say. And recently, such a game was carried.
  15. +7
    1 July 2020 17: 35
    It is immediately clear that the author who wrote this article, Ukraine, did not see in his eyes. Every year I go there and I can say for sure that more than half of the citizens (approximately 70-75 percent) of this country either hate or just wanted to spit on Russia. But the situation changes in the kroner when it comes to the benefits or opportunities to earn money in Russia or on the Russians.
    Do not believe me? .. Look at the results of the last presidential election. 75 percent voted for Zelensky, who did not say a single good word to the throne of our country and our people.
  16. -1
    1 July 2020 17: 36
    Quote: Avior
    The author is a noble dreamer
    In Ukraine, as a matter of fact, the amendments that were voted were heard except for zeroing.

    Well, let's be objective ..... In Ukraine, we heard exactly for those amendments (ku) for which they wanted to hear .... I still saw how they discussed the amendment for the inability to separate any territories ....
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    1. DVR
      +2
      1 July 2020 22: 39
      The new version of the constitution of the Russian Federation is like castration of a man! Now he can plow, eat, drink, but he does not have the ability to reproduce and choose power, for those who endowed themselves with power for eternal times will do it!

      You definitely have some kind of ailment, or something was eaten (smoked, drank). May magnetic storms lol
  18. +1
    1 July 2020 18: 52
    direct obligation of the country "to support compatriots abroad in protecting their interests"

    I wonder if it says who is a "compatriot"?
    And then again it turns out that something "many people look at Russia as the last hope, as a strong and reliable brother, who sooner or later will come to the rescue and lend a hand", for some reason is not included in the number of" compatriots ".
  19. -6
    1 July 2020 18: 58
    If until now the most optimistic of them still cherished hope for a cardinal change of power in our country and, accordingly, for the new course of the Kremlin, now it can be put an end to it. As well as the dreams of “reformatting,” and, frankly, the collapse of Russia, which some in Kiev raved about. Moreover, references to the inadmissibility of alienation of any part of Russian territories appearing in the Constitution forever put an end to the question of the “return” of Crimea.

    Unfortunately, with the amendments, it all became much more real. The Kremlin's course is turning towards a pro-fascist dictatorship. And "the fisherman sees the fisherman from afar."
    Federal territories are still "dark horses", but they give reason to assume that they will be Tatarstan, Bashkiria, Ichkeria, etc., with their own laws ("the hardest thing is the beginning"). And since all the courts and the prosecutor's office, thanks to the amendments, are becoming pocketable, then everyone will amicably say "approvals".
    And even the alienation of territories is becoming much easier for the authorities, since instead of a national referendum, it will now be possible to simply formalize everything with an international agreement. So here not only the Kuril Islands "smell", but the same "Crimea is ours" becomes questionable.
    And the country's direct obligation to “support compatriots abroad in protecting their interests” causes sad dread among those in the “unfinished” who are still seriously thinking about the “de-occupation of Donbass”.

    Well, "promising doesn't mean getting married." Moreover, when it comes to V. Putin.
    So after these amendments, Ukrainians will not only not be jealous of the Russians, but, probably, they will ride for a month from joy on the Maidan ....
    1. MMX
      0
      3 July 2020 12: 18
      The Kremlin's course is turning towards a pro-fascist dictatorship.

      These are your fantasies.

      Federal territories are still "dark horses", but they give reason to assume that they will be Tatarstan, Bashkiria, Ichkeria, etc., with their own laws ("dashing trouble is the beginning")


      Now it was not clear. You want to say that these republics will be directly managed from the federal center, i.e. lose the status of subjects ??? wassat

      And even the alienation of territories becomes much easier for the authorities, because instead of a nationwide referendum, now it will be possible to simply formalize everything with an international treaty.

      Curious. What follows from such a bold conclusion?

      So after these amendments, Ukrainians will not only not be jealous of the Russians, but, probably, they will ride for a month from joy on the Maidan ....

      It is regrettable crying After the second Maidan, Ukraine lost sovereignty and part of the territory. The third Maidan will completely erase them from the globe ...
      1. -1
        4 July 2020 09: 27
        The Kremlin's course is turning towards a pro-fascist dictatorship.


        These are your fantasies.

        And what is there to fantasize? The president has crushed all branches of power and security forces, and now he has dictatorial powers.
        As for fascism, the cannibalistic "pension reform" alone is worth something. However, look for signs of fascism on the Internet and play the game of finding three differences with Russian reality. Fascism is not necessarily gas chambers. In Italy they were not, but there was fascism.
        1. MMX
          +1
          4 July 2020 12: 18
          Well, here, like be, you at least gave the definition of the concept of fascism (revered), and then you rushed with words.
          The connection between pension reform and fascism is five good It should be remembered that with this logic, all of Europe had already slipped into fascism quite a while ago. lol
      2. -1
        4 July 2020 09: 29
        Now it was not clear. You want to say that these republics will be directly managed from the federal center, i.e. lose the status of subjects ??? wassat

        So at once they would write that you are just fooling around here ....
        1. MMX
          0
          4 July 2020 12: 22
          Quote: whowhy
          Now it was not clear. You want to say that these republics will be directly managed from the federal center, i.e. lose the status of subjects ??? wassat

          So at once they would write that you are just fooling around here ....


          Well, if you take seriously what you write, I have bad news for you and they are related to your intellectual abilities.
      3. -1
        4 July 2020 09: 34
        And even the alienation of territories becomes much easier for the authorities, because instead of a nationwide referendum, now it will be possible to simply formalize everything with an international treaty.

        Curious. What follows from such a bold conclusion?

        You, it turns out, have not even read the amendments, and if you read, you did not understand anything. - It is clearly written there that now, in order to alienate Russian lands, the authorities do not need to bother with a popular referendum, but they can simply conclude an international treaty. Or don't you know what "delimitation" is? wink And by the way, how did you vote at the last two referenda on the alienation of Russian lands in favor of China and Norway?
        1. MMX
          0
          4 July 2020 12: 39
          Quote: whowhy
          And even the alienation of territories becomes much easier for the authorities, because instead of a nationwide referendum, now it will be possible to simply formalize everything with an international treaty.

          Curious. What follows from such a bold conclusion?

          You, it turns out, have not even read the amendments, and if you read, you did not understand anything. - It is clearly written there that now, in order to alienate Russian lands, the authorities do not need to bother with a popular referendum, but they can simply conclude an international treaty. Or don't you know what "delimitation" is? wink And by the way, how did you vote at the last two referenda on the alienation of Russian lands in favor of China and Norway?


          Delimitation of borders ??? Seriously?
          Apparently in China and Norway held powerful referendums on the demarcation and delimitation of borders with Russia wassat
          Issues of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation have never been the subject of a referendum. Strange, huh? It seems that there were no amendments to the constitution, and the RF signed delimitation agreements earlier, without any referendum. So what has changed? After all, you claimed that
          And even the alienation of territories becomes much easier for the authorities, because instead of a nationwide referendum, now it will be possible to simply formalize everything with an international treaty

          It turns out (and you yourself admit it), and earlier the "contractor" delimited the borders of the Russian Federation.
          I repeat the question (on simplifying the alienation of territories): Interesting. What follows from such a bold conclusion?
  20. 0
    1 July 2020 19: 04
    A helping hand should only be shackled in a steel hedgehog glove and after that it must be disinfected! Dust can ...
  21. +1
    1 July 2020 19: 08
    In general, the result for the Russophobes there is sad: today they lament about the upcoming "cementing of the Russian authorities" and the invariability, or even toughening of the foreign policy of Moscow, which from now on intends to act without ever looking back at "international obligations" that do not meet its vital and geopolitical interests . The prospect looms rather unpleasant: amendments to the Constitution, which are likely to be adopted, do not promise those who have made militant Russophobia the basis of their political career, nothing good.

    Yes, a powerful "cementing of the Russian authorities" is expected in relation to mutual responsibility, embezzlement and human rights violations. But as for "without looking back at international obligations" - it is you, my friend, who are very excited. Will you run to the international court with the Constitution when your assets around the world are arrested? This amendment, first of all, unties the hands of the authorities in relation to any reprisals against "fighters for human rights" ....
  22. -1
    1 July 2020 19: 11
    Quote: make
    The new version of the constitution of the Russian Federation is like castration of a man! Now he can plow, eat, drink, but he does not have the ability to reproduce and choose power, for those who endowed themselves with power for eternal times will do it!

    Why haven't you thought about it since 1993? Right now, where were you "castrated"?)))
  23. 0
    1 July 2020 19: 34
    Over the forest rifts
    under the grenade breaks
    the song "flies like a swallow".
    Chorus: "Russia is my beloved,
    native - birches, poplars,
    how are you for the Soldier
    native Russian land.

    Everything grandfathers built
    And my father’s blood is watered,
    We are your sons and warriors
    swear to save ...

    This is a company song. We are "guardians of the eye"
  24. +1
    1 July 2020 20: 35
    When politics is powerless
  25. +2
    1 July 2020 20: 55
    To this day in Ukraine, many people look at Russia as the last hope, as a strong and reliable brotherwho sooner or later will come to the rescue and reach out to pull the Ukrainians out of the abyss in which the country found itself in 2014.

    But what about 30 years of "Nezalezhnosti"? Like Stanislavsky, "I don't believe" ....
  26. +3
    1 July 2020 21: 03
    Quote: mdsr
    As for the topic of the article, it sounds like a joke. Although, all the propaganda of the current authorities sounds like a joke.

    as I understand this thesis about our state from a neighbor suffering? That's really funny, they themselves are not just a joke, but not even a vaudeville. As yours said about your power, half from the quarter, the second from the diesel show (I recommend watching, quite fun), and the remaining four first visual rows from the hall. And already here they are trying to find their own!
  27. -3
    1 July 2020 21: 14
    Yes, the territory of the Republic of Ingushetia needs to be returned.
    Preferably on the left bank of the Dnieper.
    From WiKi:
    Left-bank Ukraine, Left-bank Little Russia [1], Left-bank Hetman - part of the Dnieper Ukraine, located on the left bank along the Dnieper. Left-bank Ukraine formed on the part of the territory of Ukraine, which became part of the Russian state in accordance with the decisions of the Zemsky Cathedrals in Moscow (1653) and the Pereyaslav Rada (1654)
  28. +1
    1 July 2020 21: 20
    I have a question: Why if you start a poll about Putin on the Internet, then immediately 99% against him on any platform. And electronic voting gained more than 70% for. Don't you think this is suspicious?
    1. -2
      1 July 2020 21: 29
      And if you turn on the brain and think about it?
      Electronic voting Moscow and NN.
      And DDOs attacks on voting servers come from?
      That's right, hohland and IP address of the English.
      1. -2
        1 July 2020 21: 35
        Is this some kind of new trick to accuse hohland and Saxons of Putin’s wrapping up?
        1. +2
          1 July 2020 21: 38
          By no means, this fact was announced today in the news.
          All on P 24, see if you are not banned.
      2. DVR
        -1
        1 July 2020 22: 59
        And if you turn on the brain and think about it?
        Electronic voting Moscow and NN.
        And DDOs attacks on voting servers come from?
        That's right, hohland and IP address of the English.

        You turned this somersault. Those. DDOs attacks do "hohlyandiya and English IP addresses" to cheat Putin? Read about DDOs attacks and why they are done.
  29. +1
    1 July 2020 23: 12
    I am interested in the lack of "reaction of Ukrainians" to political killings, in particular, in Odessa and Kharkov, the continuation of the civil war, failure to fulfill the election promises that Ze - "the president of the world" (everything?) Made.
  30. 0
    2 July 2020 09: 13
    From fear to envy ..
    Ahem .. I’m wondering .. should they be afraid for us because Putin will rob us forever ?? Here it is to God .. 10 years ago - yes .. many countries could envy !!
    Not that Putin would have been different .. he just didn’t lower himself to such an extent in all of that G ..
    And now ... it’s a disgrace to have a president who is not only a crook and a thief, but also a frank bullshit .. I think even the bandits have some kind of rules of honor .. their word ..
    It would be more correct to name an article - from sympathy to pity ..
    1. +1
      3 July 2020 00: 14
      What do you personally, Putin stole? It looks like brains ...
  31. 0
    2 July 2020 22: 26
    Quote: Serg65
    Quote: Gvardeetz77
    I myself have a pension of 19, and a communal apartment in winter for kopeck piece 8, without TV, internet and communication.
    Live in Russia

    what And write to the site from a neighbor's computer ???

    I agree, you can understand in two ways, but it would be more correct:
    TV, communication and Internet services are not included in the payment for a communal apartment, but are paid separately.
  32. AB
    +2
    3 July 2020 12: 27
    To this day, in Ukraine, many people look at Russia as the last hope, as a strong and reliable brother who sooner or later will come to the rescue and reach out to pull the Ukrainians out of the abyss in which the country found itself in 2014

    On this issue in Russia it is worth holding a referendum. Something seems to me that 90 percent will be sharply against the penetration of Russia into the restoration of the Ruins.
  33. -4
    3 July 2020 18: 16
    Haraluzhny can be easily recognized by a mixture of pathos and lies. The vast majority of Ukrainians are just making fun of zeroing.
    1. 0
      3 July 2020 20: 55
      Do you think that they themselves have nothing to play with? Some Carpathians are worth ...
  34. 0
    4 July 2020 00: 18
    Quote: bk316
    I myself have a pension of 19, and a communal apartment in winter for kopeck piece 8, without TV, Internet and communication.

    A subsidy too lazy to use? Or are you lying?

    Not laziness, in the heating season 450 compensate, in the summer 350.
  35. -2
    4 July 2020 10: 09
    Weak article.
    Where the wording is about compatriots, that compatriot is a citizen of the Russian Federation. A citizen of Ukraine is not a compatriot of the Russian Federation, even if he speaks Russian. And the protection of Russian citizens abroad was before. So here they voted for a dummy.
    For the rest: the ban on the issuance of other currencies in the Russian Federation and priority over the consequences of any interstate agreements puts an end to any Union movement.
    This means that either all the republics of the USSR, as they were independent, still remain. Or pieces, small valves are part of the Russian Federation, and this is real only after the collapse.
    In other words, you finally untied your hands to the special services of the West and the CIS countries in the sense that anyone who now advocates either for an alliance or on a pro-Russian vector is automatically a person who stands for the collapse of his own country, whatever it may be, and its absorption RF What is it called from a legal point of view, I think, no need to explain.
    Hence the question ... did you know exactly what you voted for?
    1. 0
      4 July 2020 20: 59
      I am for the time to strengthen the course of the country, there are too many rubbing their hands in anticipation ... It is clear that this shnoe will turn out simply and smoothly. And even if you are from Ukraine, then you didn’t just untie your hands, you gave it to someone else’s hands! (You don’t personally, of course)
  36. 0
    4 July 2020 20: 53
    In the absence of arguments, stupid people use mate, the smart one will keep silent.
  37. 0
    5 July 2020 09: 27
    Quote: Snail N9
    Some people say that their pensioners can even ride city minibuses for free, but! ..... minibuses: some limit the number of pensioners in the minibus cabin to no more than 5 people, and some, when they see that, stand alone at the stop the elderly pass her and stop a little further so that they can drop off the passengers and leave quickly, as long as the pensioners have not taken a stop.

    In Slavyansk, for example, pensioners travel for free in a trolley bus, and in minibuses all for money.
    Recently two guys went into the minibus, they show the identity card of the ATO participant, and the driver says that he does not carry anyone for free and they will have to pay. They paid, but began to call the bus depot and find out if they are entitled to free travel. They were told that they have. They give the carrier a call so that he speaks with his superiors, but he does not pick up the phone laughing
  38. 5-9
    0
    5 July 2020 09: 56
    An intelligent person cannot be aware of himself as a Ukrainian ... and if suddenly a Ukrainian suddenly becomes wiser, he will realize that he is Russian .... or, at worst, an Austrian. (c) Galkovsky.
  39. 0
    5 July 2020 21: 28
    I want to apologize to the author and readers right away - I have not read the article. I just went on the topic of the name.
    And he came in only to congratulate all sane citizens of the Russian Federation on voting to support amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
    If the people of the country believe their Leader (excuse me, I do not want to use the American word for the President), and if the Leader relies on the support of his people, then such a Leader and such a People, or rather, SUCH A COUNTRY, are UNBEATABLE !!!
    Well done! Keep it up!

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