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The first Ukrainian satellite Lybid remains in Russia, money will not be returned to Kiev

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The fate of the first Ukrainian telecommunications satellite “Lybid” (“Swan”) is a big question. While he is in Russia, and the leadership of the State Space Agency of Ukraine is wondering what to do next.


According to the head of the space agency Vladimir Usov, the court refused to return the money spent on the creation of the satellite. Meanwhile, the government of Ukraine took a loan from the Canadian Export Agency in the amount of $ 292 million for the construction of the apparatus.

Usov also stressed that the satellite acquisition agreement is invalid, and outlined three possible scenarios for the development of events. The first and most optimal for Kiev is somewhere else to get another 50-60 million dollars, finish building a rocket and launch a satellite from the Russian Baikonur cosmodrome. The second way is to find an investor who will be ready to send the satellite into orbit on its own. Finally, the third way is the sale of the rights to use a satellite from the territory of Russia to another state or corporation, and the construction of the new satellite with the proceeds.

Money will not be returned to Kiev.

Note that the decision to create a satellite was adopted by the Ukrainian government 13 years ago, in 2007, and in 2009 Kiev took a loan from a Canadian agency to create it. But most of the money taken on credit has disappeared, and the Lybid satellite since 2014, when relations between Kiev and Moscow have worsened, is in Russia in a half-ready state. Only in 2019, Kiev completed the payment of a loan to the Canadian Export Agency.

It turns out that the whole история with satellite - one total loss for Ukraine: both financial and reputational. This is another example of how short-sighted Ukrainian nationalist politicians, breaking normal relations with Russia, dealt a blow to the economy of their own state. Now Ukraine has neither a satellite, nor money paid for it.
Photos used:
Wikipedia / State Space Agency of Ukraine
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  1. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 30 June 2020 16: 47 New
    18
    Well, do not worry about this.
    Themselves, all by yourself, do not bother them ...
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 30 June 2020 18: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      Themselves, all by yourself, do not bother them ..

      Well, if only push in the right direction lol
      Yes, although they themselves all go there with increasing speed ... laughing
      1. major147
        major147 30 June 2020 19: 18 New
        +5
        Now Ukraine has neither a satellite, nor money paid for it.

        They have no mind!
    2. major147
      major147 30 June 2020 19: 20 New
      +5
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      Themselves, all by yourself, do not bother them ...

      Better themselves, no one can handle them. For 30 years, minus 20 million inhabitants ....
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 30 June 2020 21: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: major147
        Better themselves, no one can handle them. For 30 years, minus ....

        If you will, then minus any prospect, ahead of the 'happiness' to be an appendage in everything ...
        1. major147
          major147 1 July 2020 11: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          If you allow, then minus any prospect, ahead of the 'happiness' to be an appendage in everything ...

          This is in the most optimistic forecast ....
  2. Bear040
    Bear040 30 June 2020 16: 47 New
    47
    Russia also paid for ship turbines and did not receive either turbines or money. So Bandera thieves need to be punished for impudence and bloodthirstiness in full
    1. paul72
      paul72 30 June 2020 16: 52 New
      +4
      Can exchange turbines for satellite?
      1. Bear040
        Bear040 30 June 2020 17: 07 New
        20
        There is nothing to change. Money and turbines stolen UKROPami.
      2. seregin-s1
        seregin-s1 30 June 2020 17: 22 New
        11
        Now they can no longer build turbines. ((((
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 30 June 2020 18: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: seregin-s1
          Now they can no longer build turbines. ((((

          And what have they built since 1990?
          1. seregin-s1
            seregin-s1 30 June 2020 19: 56 New
            +3
            Turbines for Russian and Indian ships could still.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 30 June 2020 20: 29 New
              +3
              Yes, I'm not talking about that. Have they built anything capital?
              Only everything was crushed and stolen. The bridge in Kuev cannot be completed for many decades.
              A turbine is all touched by the USSR. The backlog ended, the zilch remained
              1. -ш-
                -ш- 1 July 2020 13: 16 New
                -1
                until 2014, two large chicken coops were built in the Donetsk region, the third was never completed - that's all I saw
    2. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 30 June 2020 16: 53 New
      +5
      Russia also paid for ship turbines and did not receive either turbines or money. So Bandera thieves need to be punished for impudence and bloodthirstiness in full

      They will still be taken from them))) ...
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 30 June 2020 16: 54 New
    +5
    Назвать спутник "скакун " и пусть он своим ходом -вскачь-чешет до орбиты, может быть, автостопом и получится выйти в ему в космос lol .
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 30 June 2020 19: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: Thrifty
      Назвать спутник "скакун "

      And he will burn down the horse for speed laughing
      About this
    2. 4ekist
      4ekist 30 June 2020 19: 12 New
      +1
      “Lybid” - you can break your tongue, damn it.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 30 June 2020 20: 31 New
        +6
        Quote: 4ekist
        “Lybid” - you can break your tongue, damn it.

        They have no language, moss broke
    3. Retvizan 8
      Retvizan 8 1 July 2020 17: 16 New
      0
      Ага, "Америга с нами" ! Пусть своих "друзей" попросят, может к Crew Dragon прицепят на буксир. laughing
  4. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 30 June 2020 16: 57 New
    +9
    Ukraine has neither a satellite nor money paid for it

    But there is, like, a change of power.
    True, no one will say, why the hell is she needed.
    1. Tuzik
      Tuzik 30 June 2020 17: 13 New
      +1
      That Schaub was not impudent. Although right now, they will probably prove to you that there is no changeability, a dummy then.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 30 June 2020 17: 19 New
        0
        Quote: Tuzik
        Although right now, they will probably prove to you that there is no changeability, then a fake.

        Most likely, they will say that here we would have such a changeability. But some people are afraid of shift, already horror, so the amendments and in general.
      2. major147
        major147 30 June 2020 19: 25 New
        +7
        Quote: Tuzik
        That Schaub was not impudent. Although right now, they will probably prove to you that there is no changeability, a dummy then.

        Как в анекдоте про лося "Я пью, пью, а мне всё хуже и хуже!"
        So they have, power is constantly changing, and life is getting worse and worse.
        1. Tuzik
          Tuzik 30 June 2020 20: 39 New
          +1
          smile that's for sure. Someone dumps from this mess, someone sighs with hope, and the cunning profit.
    2. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 30 June 2020 17: 18 New
      0
      But what for is she so needed?
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 30 June 2020 17: 22 New
        +2
        H-nah?! ..
    3. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 30 June 2020 18: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
      Ukraine has neither a satellite nor money paid for it

      But there is, like, a change of power.
      True, no one will say, why the hell is she needed.

      Beautifully dipped) Respect)
    4. 4ekist
      4ekist 30 June 2020 19: 15 New
      +3
      There is still a visa-free regime for the uninterrupted replenishment in Europe of workers and people with low social ...
    5. major147
      major147 30 June 2020 19: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
      Ukraine has neither a satellite nor money paid for it

      But there is, like, a change of power.
      True, no one will say, why the hell is she needed.

      The USA will explain everything to the dull ...
  5. seregin-s1
    seregin-s1 30 June 2020 17: 17 New
    +4
    But most of the money taken on credit disappeared ............ This is the whole point of Ukrainians, starting with Soviet ensigns!
  6. Egoza
    Egoza 30 June 2020 17: 18 New
    0
    Well, that’s who took the loan, now let it return .... from your pocket. I assure you, there will be enough funds there.
    1. Lexa-149
      Lexa-149 1 July 2020 08: 49 New
      0
      So they returned the money to the creditor.
      Only in 2019, Kiev completed the payment of a loan to the Canadian Export Agency.
  7. Elephant
    Elephant 30 June 2020 17: 29 New
    +7
    Russia needs to bill for the storage and savings of this unfinished satellite and file a lawsuit in an international court, following the example of Kuev.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 30 June 2020 18: 04 New
      +6
      Quote: Elephant
      and file a lawsuit in an international court, following the example of Kuev.

      and the decision will be as follows, Ukraine should pay the money, but since they are poor, Russia will have to pay
    2. slipped
      slipped 1 July 2020 00: 43 New
      0
      Quote: Elephant
      Russia needs to bill for the storage and savings of this unfinished satellite and file a lawsuit in an international court, following the example of Kuev.


      And who told you that he was unfinished? Here it is after passing the acoustic tests:

  8. Andrea
    Andrea 30 June 2020 17: 48 New
    +2
    There is a fourth way, to bury and in a thousand years there will be something to be proud of, if, of course, there will be someone.
  9. Sailor
    Sailor 30 June 2020 17: 57 New
    +3
    That's when the paid engines for the frigates will be returned, then you can give them a companion.
  10. 113262a
    113262a 30 June 2020 18: 08 New
    +3
    I specify-LYBID-nirazu not SWAN! Lybid is the sister of the founders of Kiev-Kiy, Schek and Horeb. Little Russian swan-LEBID!
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  11. Maikcg
    Maikcg 30 June 2020 18: 11 New
    +1
    So it is still unfinished ...

    >>достроить ракету good rocket, Karl! and who will finish building the satellite? Bandera?
    >>найти инвестора good and Usov will panovat
    >>продажа прав good excellent plan, then you need to sell someone the right to use Usov in a brothel
    1. Gato
      Gato 30 June 2020 19: 18 New
      +2
      finish the rocket

      Gy-gy.
      Чтобы достроить ракету надо российские комплектующие, а их там около 70%. Если найти деньги и РФ согласится их продать (а СНБО разрешит их купить у "оккупанта"), то Южмаш все-равно ничего построить уже не сможет, потому как развален. Если даже каким-то невероятным усилием свидомости он таки сможет ее построить - то запускать ее все-равно неоткуда. Но предположим добрый дядя Маск запустит его - так наземных комплексов управления все-равно нет. Ну и вишенка на тортике: украинский спутник "Сич-2" из планируемых 5 лет проработал полтора и "устал" - навряд ли "Лыбидь" с истекшим сроком хранения будет способна на большее.
      "Сушите весла. Все. Финал" (С)
  12. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 30 June 2020 18: 59 New
    +2
    Kiev took a loan from a Canadian agency to create it. But most of the money taken on credit has disappeared ...

    A strange story.recourse This has never happened and here again! © request
  13. Alien ...
    Alien ... 30 June 2020 19: 06 New
    -3
    As it really was: https://aif.ru/politics/world/lybid_dlitelnogo_hraneniya_ukrainskiy_sputnik_zavis_v_rossii
    Nothing interesting compared to the modernization of Nakhimov or Kuzi.
  14. Revolver
    Revolver 30 June 2020 19: 10 New
    0
    Jumped. Hto not jumping that [moderated].
    Horse racing continues.
  15. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 30 June 2020 19: 11 New
    +1
    What where, they don’t take it, most of it is stolen. Spongy mentality ...
  16. mark2
    mark2 30 June 2020 19: 12 New
    +2
    Give him the mask. He loves to launch any stuff into orbit.
    1. major147
      major147 30 June 2020 19: 28 New
      0
      Quote: mark2
      Give him the mask

      Sell ​​....
  17. Machete
    Machete 30 June 2020 20: 13 New
    -2
    The satellite there has not yet turned into electronic garbage over the years of storage?
    At least the filling is already ten times out of date.
  18. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 30 June 2020 20: 21 New
    -1
    This satellite has already been lying for 10 years, gathering dust, it is probably out of date like some iPhone 5 version, or even Nokia 3110 laughing
    It would be necessary to return.
  19. Avior
    Avior 30 June 2020 20: 23 New
    +5
    History as simple as the world
    When Yanukovych took a satellite loan, they should have let go in 2011
    But, as it later became clear, money, as was customary under Yanukovych, was transferred not directly to the manufacturer, but to the intermediary company, where they disappeared.
    Further more, it turned out that they forgot to confirm the reserved place for the orbit and they gave it to the French.
    Found a new one, but it surfaced that Yanukovich’s associates stupidly stole the money for the rocket.
    This is so, to illustrate and understand why no one needs Yanukovych in Ukraine, including fellow countrymen from the Donbass, how it looked with him and why even those who opposed Maidan wanted to change him.
    Later it turned out that it was necessary to build a new control center, the old one was near Evpatoria, a new one was built near Kiev, then time and money, but then the satellite’s storage period passed, and as a result it was not launched.
    Everything is somehow ordinary - just ....
  20. orionvitt
    orionvitt 30 June 2020 20: 34 New
    +2
    Есть ещё четвёртый путь, самый оптимальный. Забыть нафиг, про свои жалкие потуги и признать, что "космической державы" из украины не получилось, и никогда не получится. Как писал известный баснописец, "А вы друзья как не садитесь, а в музыканты не годитесь". И в этом вся ураина, причём куда не кинь.
  21. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 30 June 2020 20: 37 New
    +1
    Мы помним про "трёшку Януковича", спутник "Лыбидь" в музей "Зрад украины".
  22. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 30 June 2020 20: 40 New
    0
    I read the article ... Nothing is clear, but very interesting! wassat
  23. Kelwin
    Kelwin 30 June 2020 21: 09 New
    -2
    Give me a satellite) I’ll put it in the country as a barbecue, I have long dreamed) throw it away anyway ... sorry)
  24. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 30 June 2020 23: 58 New
    -1
    It would be liquid assets to drive and at least some of the funds back that ours were lost in the ban on the sale of the same Motorschev components to us ...... and so ... I think that it’s illiquid
  25. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 1 July 2020 00: 06 New
    -1
    Quote: Alien ...
    As it really was: https://aif.ru/politics/world/lybid_dlitelnogo_hraneniya_ukrainskiy_sputnik_zavis_v_rossii
    Nothing interesting compared to the modernization of Nakhimov or Kuzi.

    probably the difference will be only in the end .... Nakhimov and Kuzya still go to sea ...... the satellite will not fly ...
    1. Alien ...
      Alien ... 2 July 2020 00: 37 New
      0
      As long as they go just like a satellite flies ... And it’s not a fact yet, what are the chances of a higher ... laughing
      And for the money, so the satellite is generally a kite ... Paper ...
  26. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 1 July 2020 04: 15 New
    0
    What a companion, when so much money from Canada has come down, the whole country is imprisoned from whom and how to steal!
  27. Ros 56
    Ros 56 1 July 2020 05: 27 New
    -1
    I don’t understand why pan is a companion? They have seven Fridays a week, today we fly, tomorrow we do not fly, and what is the result?
  28. Evil 55
    Evil 55 1 July 2020 06: 02 New
    0
    Не полетел "Лебедь"..Крылья резанули, в зоопарк определили.
  29. Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 1 July 2020 07: 21 New
    0
    Once Hohland was cosmic, now the territory of fabulous dlb has passed to the shaweks negative
  30. Pavel73
    Pavel73 2 July 2020 08: 50 New
    0
    The song of the Ukrainian cosmos.
  31. Dedok
    Dedok 2 July 2020 09: 33 New
    0
    why discuss something: they didn’t transfer the money in full for construction ... they stole it, as it relies on the post-Soviet space
    nothing to discuss
  32. lopvlad
    lopvlad 2 July 2020 13: 35 New
    0
    Ukrainian satellite "Lybid"


    очередная судьба крейсера "Украина" ,на этот раз уже космического.Да и зачем спутник стране которая дошла до распродажи последнего,земли под собственными ногами.
  33. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 2 July 2020 18: 23 New
    -1
    Quote: Alien ...
    As long as they go just like a satellite flies ... And it’s not a fact yet, what are the chances of a higher ... laughing
    And for the money, so the satellite is generally a kite ... Paper ...

    We look and evaluate the results of ........