The first Ukrainian satellite Lybid remains in Russia, money will not be returned to Kiev

The fate of the first Ukrainian telecommunications satellite “Lybid” (“Swan”) is a big question. While he is in Russia, and the leadership of the State Space Agency of Ukraine is wondering what to do next.

According to the head of the space agency Vladimir Usov, the court refused to return the money spent on the creation of the satellite. Meanwhile, the government of Ukraine took a loan from the Canadian Export Agency in the amount of $ 292 million for the construction of the apparatus.

Usov also stressed that the satellite acquisition agreement is invalid, and outlined three possible scenarios for the development of events. The first and most optimal for Kiev is somewhere else to get another 50-60 million dollars, finish building a rocket and launch a satellite from the Russian Baikonur cosmodrome. The second way is to find an investor who will be ready to send the satellite into orbit on its own. Finally, the third way is the sale of the rights to use a satellite from the territory of Russia to another state or corporation, and the construction of the new satellite with the proceeds.

Money will not be returned to Kiev.

Note that the decision to create a satellite was adopted by the Ukrainian government 13 years ago, in 2007, and in 2009 Kiev took a loan from a Canadian agency to create it. But most of the money taken on credit has disappeared, and the Lybid satellite since 2014, when relations between Kiev and Moscow have worsened, is in Russia in a half-ready state. Only in 2019, Kiev completed the payment of a loan to the Canadian Export Agency.

It turns out that the whole story with satellite - one total loss for Ukraine: both financial and reputational. This is another example of how short-sighted Ukrainian nationalist politicians, breaking normal relations with Russia, dealt a blow to the economy of their own state. Now Ukraine has neither a satellite, nor money paid for it.

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[Pete mitchell]

Well, do not worry about this.
Themselves, all by yourself, do not bother them ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Themselves, all by yourself, do not bother them ..

Well, if only push in the right direction
Yes, although they themselves all go there with increasing speed ...

[major147]

Now Ukraine has neither a satellite, nor money paid for it.

They have no mind!

[major147]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Themselves, all by yourself, do not bother them ...

Better themselves, no one can handle them. For 30 years, minus 20 million inhabitants ....

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: major147

Better themselves, no one can handle them. For 30 years, minus ....

If you will, then minus any prospect, ahead of the 'happiness' to be an appendage in everything ...

[major147]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

If you allow, then minus any prospect, ahead of the 'happiness' to be an appendage in everything ...

This is in the most optimistic forecast ....

[Bear040]

Russia also paid for ship turbines and did not receive either turbines or money. So Bandera thieves need to be punished for impudence and bloodthirstiness in full

[paul72]

Can exchange turbines for satellite?

[Bear040]

There is nothing to change. Money and turbines stolen UKROPami.

[seregin-s1]

Now they can no longer build turbines. ((((

[Lipchanin]

Quote: seregin-s1

Now they can no longer build turbines. ((((

And what have they built since 1990?

[seregin-s1]

Turbines for Russian and Indian ships could still.

[Lipchanin]

Yes, I'm not talking about that. Have they built anything capital?
Only everything was crushed and stolen. The bridge in Kuev cannot be completed for many decades.
A turbine is all touched by the USSR. The backlog ended, the zilch remained

[-ш-]

until 2014, two large chicken coops were built in the Donetsk region, the third was never completed - that's all I saw

[Interlocutor]

Russia also paid for ship turbines and did not receive either turbines or money. So Bandera thieves need to be punished for impudence and bloodthirstiness in full

They will still be taken from them))) ...

[Thrifty]

Call the satellite "horse" and let it jump up to orbit on its own, maybe hitchhiking and it will turn out to go into space .

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Thrifty

Name the satellite "horse"

And he will burn down the horse for speed
About this

[4ekist]

“Lybid” - you can break your tongue, damn it.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: 4ekist

“Lybid” - you can break your tongue, damn it.

They have no language, moss broke

[Retvizan 8]

Aha, "Ameriga is with us"! Let their "friends" ask, maybe they will hook the Crew Dragon to the tug.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Ukraine has neither a satellite nor money paid for it

But there is, like, a change of power.
True, no one will say, why the hell is she needed.

[Tuzik]

That Schaub was not impudent. Although right now, they will probably prove to you that there is no changeability, a dummy then.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Tuzik

Although right now, they will probably prove to you that there is no changeability, then a fake.

Most likely, they will say that here we would have such a changeability. But some people are afraid of shift, already horror, so the amendments and in general.

[major147]

Quote: Tuzik

That Schaub was not impudent. Although right now, they will probably prove to you that there is no changeability, a dummy then.

As in the joke about the elk "I drink, I drink, but I'm getting worse and worse!"
So they have, power is constantly changing, and life is getting worse and worse.

[Tuzik]

that's for sure. Someone dumps from this mess, someone sighs with hope, and the cunning profit.

[seregin-s1]

But what for is she so needed?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

H-nah?! ..

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Ukraine has neither a satellite nor money paid for it

But there is, like, a change of power.
True, no one will say, why the hell is she needed.

Beautifully dipped) Respect)

[4ekist]

There is still a visa-free regime for the uninterrupted replenishment in Europe of workers and people with low social ...

[major147]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Ukraine has neither a satellite nor money paid for it

But there is, like, a change of power.
True, no one will say, why the hell is she needed.

The USA will explain everything to the dull ...

[seregin-s1]

But most of the money taken on credit disappeared ............ This is the whole point of Ukrainians, starting with Soviet ensigns!

[Egoza]

Well, that’s who took the loan, now let it return .... from your pocket. I assure you, there will be enough funds there.

[Lexa-149]

So they returned the money to the creditor.

Only in 2019, Kiev completed the payment of a loan to the Canadian Export Agency.

[Elephant]

Russia needs to bill for the storage and savings of this unfinished satellite and file a lawsuit in an international court, following the example of Kuev.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Elephant

and file a lawsuit in an international court, following the example of Kuev.

and the decision will be as follows, Ukraine should pay the money, but since they are poor, Russia will have to pay

[slipped]

Quote: Elephant

Russia needs to bill for the storage and savings of this unfinished satellite and file a lawsuit in an international court, following the example of Kuev.

And who told you that he was unfinished? Here it is after passing the acoustic tests:

[Andrea]

There is a fourth way, to bury and in a thousand years there will be something to be proud of, if, of course, there will be someone.

[Sailor]

That's when the paid engines for the frigates will be returned, then you can give them a companion.

[113262a]

I specify-LYBID-nirazu not SWAN! Lybid is the sister of the founders of Kiev-Kiy, Schek and Horeb. Little Russian swan-LEBID!

[Maikcg]

So it is still unfinished ...

>> finish building the rocket rocket, Karl! and who will finish building the satellite? Bandera?
>> find an investor and Usov will panovat
>> sale of rights excellent plan, then you need to sell someone the right to use Usov in a brothel

[Cat]

finish the rocket

Gy-gy.
To complete the rocket, Russian components are needed, and there are about 70% of them. If the money is found and the Russian Federation agrees to sell it (and the NSDC will allow it to be bought from the "occupier"), then Yuzhmash will not be able to build anything anyway, because it is ruined. Even if by some incredible effort of Svidomo he can still build it, there is nowhere to launch it anyway. But suppose the good Uncle Musk launches it - there are no ground control systems anyway. Well, the cherry on the cake: the Ukrainian satellite "Sich-2" out of the planned 5 years has worked for one and a half years and is "tired" - it is unlikely that "Lybid" with an expired shelf life will be capable of more.
"Dry the oars. All. Finale" (C)

[Vasyan1971]

Kiev took a loan from a Canadian agency to create it. But most of the money taken on credit has disappeared ...

A strange story. This has never happened and here again! ©

[Alien ...]

As it really was: https://aif.ru/politics/world/lybid_dlitelnogo_hraneniya_ukrainskiy_sputnik_zavis_v_rossii
Nothing interesting compared to the modernization of Nakhimov or Kuzi.

[Revolver]

Jumped. Hto not jumping that [moderated].
Horse racing continues.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

What where, they don’t take it, most of it is stolen. Spongy mentality ...

[mark2]

Give him the mask. He loves to launch any stuff into orbit.

[major147]

Quote: mark2

Give him the mask

Sell ​​....

[Machete]

The satellite there has not yet turned into electronic garbage over the years of storage?
At least the filling is already ten times out of date.

[Yaro Polk]

This satellite has already been lying for 10 years, gathering dust, it is probably out of date like some iPhone 5 version, or even Nokia 3110
It would be necessary to return.

[Avior]

History as simple as the world
When Yanukovych took a satellite loan, they should have let go in 2011
But, as it later became clear, money, as was customary under Yanukovych, was transferred not directly to the manufacturer, but to the intermediary company, where they disappeared.
Further more, it turned out that they forgot to confirm the reserved place for the orbit and they gave it to the French.
Found a new one, but it surfaced that Yanukovich’s associates stupidly stole the money for the rocket.
This is so, to illustrate and understand why no one needs Yanukovych in Ukraine, including fellow countrymen from the Donbass, how it looked with him and why even those who opposed Maidan wanted to change him.
Later it turned out that it was necessary to build a new control center, the old one was near Evpatoria, a new one was built near Kiev, then time and money, but then the satellite’s storage period passed, and as a result it was not launched.
Everything is somehow ordinary - just ....

[orionvitt]

There is also a fourth way, the most optimal one. Forget nafig, about your pathetic attempts and admit that the "space power" from Ukraine did not work, and never will. As the well-known fabulist wrote, "You are friends as you do not sit down, and you are not suitable for musicians." And this is the whole uraine, and where not to throw.

[cat Rusich]

We remember about "Yanukovych's three-ruble note", "Lybid" satellite to the "Zrad of Ukraine" museum.

[Aleks2048]

I read the article ... Nothing is clear, but very interesting!

[Kelwin]

Give me a satellite) I’ll put it in the country as a barbecue, I have long dreamed) throw it away anyway ... sorry)

[Ovsigovets]

It would be liquid assets to drive and at least some of the funds back that ours were lost in the ban on the sale of the same Motorschev components to us ...... and so ... I think that it’s illiquid

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Alien ...

As it really was: https://aif.ru/politics/world/lybid_dlitelnogo_hraneniya_ukrainskiy_sputnik_zavis_v_rossii
Nothing interesting compared to the modernization of Nakhimov or Kuzi.

probably the difference will be only in the end .... Nakhimov and Kuzya still go to sea ...... the satellite will not fly ...

[Alien ...]

As long as they go just like a satellite flies ... And it’s not a fact yet, what are the chances of a higher ...
And for the money, so the satellite is generally a kite ... Paper ...

[tolmachiev51]

What a companion, when so much money from Canada has come down, the whole country is imprisoned from whom and how to steal!

[Ros 56]

I don’t understand why pan is a companion? They have seven Fridays a week, today we fly, tomorrow we do not fly, and what is the result?

[Evil 55]

The Swan did not fly .. The wings were cut, they were assigned to the zoo.

[Slipper 2]

Once Hohland was cosmic, now the territory of fabulous dlb has passed to the shaweks

[Pavel73]

The song of the Ukrainian cosmos.

[Dedok]

why discuss something: they didn’t transfer the money in full for construction ... they stole it, as it relies on the post-Soviet space
nothing to discuss

[lopvlad]

Ukrainian satellite "Lybid"

another fate of the cruiser "Ukraine", this time already space. Yes, and why a satellite to a country that has reached the sale of the latter, the land under its own feet.

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Alien ...

As long as they go just like a satellite flies ... And it’s not a fact yet, what are the chances of a higher ...
And for the money, so the satellite is generally a kite ... Paper ...

We look and evaluate the results of ........