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Foreign Legion combat operations in the second half of the XNUMXth century

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Foreign Legion combat operations in the second half of the XNUMXth century

Soldiers of the Second Parachute Regiment of the Foreign Legion


Currently, the units of the Foreign Legion are considered to be one of the few combat formations of the French army and NATO that can carry out their tasks without drones, gadgets and powerful air support: as in the good old days - with arms and legs. And therefore, these relatively small and not very saturated with modern military equipment, units that are not very important in large military operations, are widely used where you need to deliver a quick point strike, especially when it comes to terrain with difficult terrain, where it is difficult to use heavy military equipment . Some even say that the Foreign Legion is now the largest, most powerful and most effective private military company held by the French presidents. And I must say that the French presidents are happy to use this unique military unit.

The list of wars and military operations in which the units of the Foreign Legion took part is more than impressive. Here are some of them.

The wars in Algeria (from 1831 to 1882) and in Spain (1835-1839).
Crimean War of 1853-1856
Wars in Italy (1859) and in Mexico (1863-1867).
The fighting in South Oran (1882-1907), Vietnam (1883-1910), Taiwan (1885), Dahomey (1892-1894), Sudan (1893-1894), Madagascar (1895- 1901).
In the twentieth century, in addition to two world wars, there were also battles in Morocco (1907-1914 and 1920-1935), the Middle East (1914-1918), Syria (1925-1927) and Vietnam (1914-1940) .
Then there was the First Indochina War (1945-1954), the suppression of the uprising in Madagascar (1947-1950), the fighting in Tunisia (1952-1954), in Morocco (1953-1956), the Algerian War (1954-1961) .
The Bonite combat operation in Zaire (Congo) in 1978 was very successful. Many of the above have already been described in previous articles in the series. But there was still a war in the Persian Gulf (1991), operations in Lebanon (1982-1983), Bosnia (1992-1996), Kosovo (1999), Mali (2014).

It is estimated that since 1960, France has carried out more than 40 military operations abroad, and very many (if not all) of the legion's military personnel received “baptism of fire” in them.


Geography of the main African operations of France after 1960

Especially often the legionnaires fought under Francois Mitterrand. This president, his political opponent, former Minister of National Defense Pierre Messmer, even politically incorrectly called "a maniac of military gestures in Africa." Mitterrand twice sent troops to Chad and Zaire (Congo), three times to Rwanda, once to Gabon, and besides, French troops participated in the “UN humanitarian intervention” in Somalia (1992-1995).

And in 1995, French Foreign Minister Jacques Godfrein declared that his government "would intervene every time a legitimately elected democratic power is overthrown as a result of a coup d'etat and if there is a military cooperation agreement."

In Paris, you can now see the monument to the military personnel who died outside France, starting in 1963 (that is, in the military operations of the post-colonial period):


Monument to those killed in external operations since 1963, Paris

In one of these figures (in a traditional cap) it is easy to recognize a legionnaire.

In this article we will talk about the legionnaire missions in the second half of the XX century and at the beginning of the XXI century.

Operation in Gabon, 1964


On the night of February 18, 1964, Gabon rebels from the military and gendarmes captured the presidential palace in Libreville, arresting President Leon Mb and President of the National Assembly Louis Bigmann. Meanwhile, France received uranium, magnesium, and iron from Gabon, while French firms mined oil. Fearing that rivals would come to the country under the new government, de Gaulle said that "non-interference would seduce military groups in other African countries to such violent changes of power" and ordered "restoring order" in the former colony. On the same day, 50 paratroopers captured Libreville International Airport, which was soon landed by planes that delivered 600 soldiers from Senegal and Congo. The country's capital, the rebels, was surrendered without resistance. The military base in the city of Lambarene, where they retreated, was attacked from the air on the morning of February 19 and was fired from with mortars for two and a half hours, after which its defenders surrendered. On February 20, the liberated President MBA returned to the capital and took up his duties.

During this operation, one French paratrooper was killed and four of them were injured. The losses of the rebels amounted to 18 people killed, more than 40 wounded, 150 rebels were captured.

Operation Bonite (Leopard)


In 1978, the French Foreign Legion conducted two operations in Africa.

During the first, known as Tacaud (Cod), the uprising of the Islamic Front for the National Liberation of Chad was crushed and the oil fields were taken under control. In this country, units of the legion remained until May 1980.

But “Tacaud” remained in the shadow of another famous operation - “Bonite” (translation options: “mackerel”, “tuna”), better known under the spectacular name “Leopard” - that is how it was called in Congo. IN history she entered as one of the most successful military landing operations of the late twentieth century.

On May 13, 1978, about 7 thousand Katanga tigers, fighters of the National Congo Liberation Front (FNLC, instructors from the German Democratic Republic and Cuba participated in the training of these fighters, supported by one and a half thousand rebels of the Shaaba province of Shaba (Katanga until 1972), attacked her the capital is the city of Kolwezi.


Congo Democratic Republic on the map of Africa, Katanga province and Kolwezi city on the map of the country

The head of the FNLC at that time was General Nathaniel Mbumbo - the same one who, for three months, together with Jean Schramm defended the city of Bukava in 1967. This was described in the article. "Soldiers of Fortune" and "Wild Geese".


Lieutenant General Nathaniel Mbumba in front of the Katanga Tigers, 1978

At that time, about 2 specialists from France and Belgium worked at Kolwezi enterprises, many of whom came here with their families. In total, up to three thousand people were held hostage by the rebels.

On May 14, the president (often called the dictator) of Zaire (the DRC was called from 1971 to 1997), Sese Seko Mobutu appealed to the governments of these countries for help. The Belgians were only ready for the operation to evacuate the white population of the captured city, and therefore the French began to plan their own operation, which involved the decision of the military personnel of the second parachute regiment of the Foreign Legion, which was located in the barracks of the city of Calvi - Corsica island.


Badge of the 4th battalion of the second parachute regiment of the French Foreign Legion. For some reason, paratroopers call him a "virgin." This symbol appeared at the regiment in Cambodia in 1949. The dragon is not European, but Indochinese

By order of President Giscard d'Estaing, the commander of this regiment, Philippe Erulen, formed a landing group of 650 people, which flew to Kinshasa on May 18 on five planes (four DC-8 and one Boeing-707). The equipment attached to them was delivered to Zaire later on with the US-provided S-141 and S-5 transport aircraft.


2e REP legionnaires from 3rd Company are preparing for jumping over Kolwezi, May 1978


Second Parachute Regiment of the Legion in Kolwezi

On the same day, a Belgian parachute regiment (para-commando regiment) arrived in Kinshasa.


Machine gunner of the 1st battalion of Belgian paratroopers. Illustration from the book of S. Balenko “World Special Forces Encyclopedia. Elite divisions of 100 countries

On May 19, 450 French legionnaires were brought to Kolwezi by five airplanes of Zaire’s armed forces and parachuted from a height of 450 meters, with Colonel Erulen being the first to jump.


The commander of the second parachute regiment of the Foreign Legion Philip Erulen

One of the corporals crashed during the fall, 6 people were injured by rebel fire. The first company of legionnaires was freed by the Lyceum "Jean XXIII", the second - the hospital "Zhekamin", the third - went to the hotel "Impala", which turned out to be empty, and then joined the battle at the technical school, police station and the Church of Our Lady of the World. By the end of this day, the legionnaires already controlled the entire old city of Kolwezi. On the morning of May 20, paratroopers of the 2nd wave - another 200 people, the fourth company, which began to operate in the New Town, were landed on the eastern outskirts of Kolwez.

On the same day, the Belgians began their operation, it was called "Red Beans". At the entrance to the city they were shot at by the legionnaires, but the situation quickly cleared up and no one was hurt. Belgian paratroopers, in accordance with their plan, began to evacuate the Europeans found, and the French continued to "clean up" the city. By the evening of May 21, the evacuation of Europeans from Kolwezi was completed, but the French remained in this area until May 27, displacing the rebels from the surrounding settlements: Maniki, Luilu, Kamoto and Kapata.


Paratroopers of the second regiment of the Foreign Legion during Operation Leopard


After the victory. Legionnaires of the second parachute regiment at the parade in Zaire, June 1978

They returned to their homeland on June 7-8, 1978. The Belgians were in Kolwezi for about a month, performing mainly security and police functions.


Belgian paratroopers and legionnaires of the Second Parachute Regiment, Kolwezi, 1978

The results of the operation carried out by paratroopers of the legion can be considered brilliant. 250 rebels were destroyed, 160 were captured. They managed to capture about 1000 small arms. weapons, 4 artillery pieces, 15 mortars, 21 grenade launchers, 10 heavy machine guns and 38 light machine guns, destroy 2 enemy armored personnel carriers and several cars.

The losses of the legionnaires amounted to 5 people killed and 15 wounded (according to other sources, 25 were wounded).


Legionnaires who died in Kolwezi

One paratrooper was killed in a Belgian regiment.

Losses among the Europeans who were held hostage amounted to 170 people, more than two thousand were saved and evacuated.

In September 1978, Erulen became commander of the Legion of Honor, and a year later died while jogging - from myocardial infarction at the age of 47.

In 1980, the film "The Legion Landed at the Colvesi" was shot about these events in France, the script of which was based on the book of the same name by former officer of the Foreign Legion Pierre Sergeant.


Shot from the film "The Legion Landed in Kolwezi"


Pierre Serjan is an active member of the French Resistance during World War II, the last head of the French branch of OAS. He also wrote a book telling about the history of the first parachute regiment of the legion: “Je ne regrette rien”

If you don’t know why Serge’s book is called the same as Edith Piaf’s famous song (or forgot about it), read the article "The Time of Skydivers" and "Je ne regrette rien".

Operation Manta


In 1983-1984 French troops again took part in hostilities in the Republic of Chad, where a new round of civil war began in October 1982. Libyan-backed transitional government leader, Weddey, confronted Secretary of Defense Hissken Habré. On August 9, 1983, François Mitterrand decided to help Habré, combat formations from the Central African Republic were transferred to Chad, the number of French troops was soon increased to 3500.


A Foreign Legion battalion in Chad, Africa, 1983

Those who did not want to enter into direct confrontation between Gaddafi and Mitterrand stopped their troops at 15 parallels and finally agreed on the simultaneous withdrawal of their troops from Chad. By November 1984, the French had left this country. True, later it turned out that 3 Libyans remained in it, which, on the one hand, helped to increase the authority of the leader of the Jamahiriya, and on the other, provoked accusations of Mitterrand in collusion with Gaddafi.

Twice legionaries were part of the international peacekeeping forces in Lebanon: in 1982-1983. and in 2006.


2e REP legionnaires during Operation Epaulard in Lebanon, 1982


1er REG legionnaires (as part of UN forces) with a VAB during Operation Baliste in Lebanon, 2006

And in 1990 they were sent to Rwanda.

Operations Noroît and Turquoise


On October 1, 1990, units of the Rwandan Patriotic Front (consisting mainly of Tutsi refugee men expelled from the country in the 80s by the Hutu tribe) launched an offensive supported by the Ugandan army. They were opposed by the regular troops of Rwanda and the soldiers of the Special Presidential Division of the Zaire dictator Mobutu, French combat helicopters carried out air support. Then, units of the 2nd Parachute Regiment of the Foreign Legion, the 3rd Parachute Regiment of the Marine Corps, the 13th Parachute Dragoon Regiment and two companies of the 8th Regiment of the Marine Corps were transferred from the Central African Republic to Rwanda. On October 7, with their help, the rebels were pushed into the forests of Akagera National Park, but they could not achieve complete victory. A shaky, often discontinued truce was established. Finally, on August 4, 1993, an agreement was signed under which several Tutsi representatives were included in the Rwandan government, and the French withdrew their troops.

On April 6, 1994, when landing at the airport in the Rwandan capital of Kigali, a plane was shot down, in which were the President of Rwanda, Habyariman, and the interim president of Burundi Ntaryamir. After that, a large-scale massacre of representatives of the Tutsi tribe began: about 750 thousand people died. The Tutsi tried to answer, but the forces were not equal, and from the Hutu tribe they managed to kill only 50 thousand people. In general, it was really scary, the massacres continued from April 6 to July 18, 1994, many Tutsi refugees surged into neighboring Uganda.

Under these conditions, the troops of the Rwandan patriotic front of the Tutsi resumed hostilities. In fierce battles, they practically defeated the Hutu regular army and on July 4 entered Kigali: now to the south-west of the country, and from there to Zaire and Tanzania, about two million of their opponents fled.

On June 22, UN-mandated Frenchmen launched Operation Turquoise (Turquoise), which was attended by soldiers of the 13th Half Brigade, 2nd Infantry and 6th Engineering Regiments of the Foreign Legion, as well as artillery units of the 35th Parachute Artillery Regiment and 11 th artillery regiment of the marine corps, some other units. They took control of the southwestern regions of Rwanda (a fifth of the country), where Hutu refugees flocked, and remained there until August 25.


French soldiers in Rwanda, 1994

The events in Rwanda have seriously undermined the international authority of France and especially its position in Africa. The world media openly accused the French leadership (and Mitterrand personally) of supporting one of the belligerents, supplying the Hutus with weapons, saving their troops from complete defeat, as a result of which they continued to sorties until 1998. The French were also accused of the fact that during the Turquoise operation, mass killings of the Tutsi continued in their area of ​​responsibility, while not one of the organizers of this genocide or even any of the ordinary participants in the pogroms was detained. Later, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner and President Nicolas Sarkozy partially acknowledged these allegations, denying the malicious intent of their predecessors and describing their activities as a “political mistake”.

As a result, the new president of France, Jacques Chirac, ordered the ministries of foreign affairs and defense to develop a new strategy, the meaning of which was to avoid being drawn into civil unrest and ethnic strife in other countries, and peacekeeping operations were now recommended only in conjunction with the African Union and the UN.

Meanwhile, representatives of the Tutsi tribe also lived in Zaire, in which the local dictator Mobutu in 1996 decided to incite the Hutu refugees, sending government troops to help them. But the Tutsis did not wait for a repeat of the Rwandan events, and, united in the Alliance of Democratic Forces for the Liberation of the Congo (led by Laurent-Desire Kabila), they began fighting. Of course, no democracy (and no Marxism) in Africa has ever smelled (and doesn’t smell now), but under such ritual “mantras” it is more convenient to knock out and “master” foreign grants.

Mobutu remembered the good old days, Mike Hoar, Roger Folk and Bob Denard (which were described in the article “Soldiers of Fortune” and “Wild Geese”), and ordered the “Legion Blanche” in Europe. He was headed by Christian Tavernier, an old and experienced mercenary who fought in the Congo back in the 60s. Under his command were three hundred people, including Croats and Serbs, who had recently fought among themselves in the territory of the former Yugoslavia. But these soldiers were too few, and neighboring Uganda, Burundi and Rwanda supported the Alliance. As a result, in May 1997, Mobutu was forced to flee the country.

You are deeply mistaken if you think that this story had a happy ending: the so-called Great African War began, in which 20 tribes from nine states of Africa clashed among themselves. Its result was the death of about 5 million people. Kabila, who declared himself a follower of Mao Zedong, thanked the Tutsis for their help and asked them to leave the Democratic Republic of the Congo (formerly Zaire), quarreling with the Rwandans. His allies, he now saw Tanzania and Zimbabwe.

On August 2, 1998, the 10th and 12th Infantry Brigades (the best in the army) rebelled against him, and the Tutsi military formations did not want to disarm: instead, they created the Congolese Union for Democracy and began military operations. At the beginning of next year, this association split into two parts, one of which was controlled by Rwanda (the center is in the city of Goma), the other by Uganda (Kisangani). And in the north appeared the Congo Liberation Movement, whose leadership also collaborated with the Ugandans.

Kabila turned for help to Angola, who threw her into battle on August 23 tank troops, as well as Su-25 purchased in Ukraine. The rebels left for the territory controlled by the UNITA group. And then Zimbabwe and Chad pulled themselves together (apparently, these states had few concerns, all problems were resolved long ago). It was at this time that the notorious Victor Bout began to work here, who, using his available transport aircraft, began to help Rwanda by transferring weapons and military contingents to the Congo.

At the end of 1999, the situation was as follows: the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Angola, Namibia, Chad and Zimbabwe against Rwanda and Uganda, which, however, soon interlocked without dividing the diamond mines of Kisagani.


Squad of Congolese National Police prepares to speak out against Rwandan partisans

In the fall of 2000, the army of Kabila and the troops of Zimbabwe conquered Katanga and many cities, after which the war moved from the “acute phase” to the “chronic” one.

In December 2000, UN observers were stationed along the front line in Congo.

But on July 16, 2001, Kabila was allegedly killed by Deputy Defense Minister Kayamba, the son of Kabila Jafar “ascended the throne”, and in 2003, a war broke out between the Hema tribes (which was supported by the Ugandans) and Lendu. Then France entered into the matter, which promised to bomb the positions of both of them. As a result, the Congo government and the rebels signed a peace treaty, but the Ituri tribe now declared war on the UN mission forces, and in June 2004 they rebelled the Tutsi, whose leader, Colonel Laurent Nkunda, founded the National Congress to Protect the Tutsi Peoples.


Colonel Laurent Nkunda

They fought until January 2009, when the combined forces of the government of the Congo and the United Nations in a fierce battle (using tanks, helicopters and multiple launch rocket systems) defeated the troops of Nkunda, who fled to Rwanda and was arrested there.

During these events, about 4 million people died, 32 million became refugees.

In April 2012, an uprising of the March 23 Movement (M-23) group, consisting of representatives of the Tutsi tribe (named after the 2009 peace talks), began in eastern Congo. Rwanda and Uganda again spoke on its side. In the summer, UN forces joined in to suppress this uprising, which did not stop the rebels from capturing Goma on November 20. The war continued for another year, several tens of thousands more died.


Fighters of the March 23 Movement in the city of Goma they have seized. November 20, 2012


Congo government forces enter the village to protect it from M 23 fighters


Congolese children on a wrecked tank, Movement M 23, north of the city of Goma, 2013

The war in Congo continues and at present, no one pays special attention to peacekeepers of different nationalities.


The funeral of seven UN peacekeepers killed in November 2018



Soldiers of the French Foreign Legion patrol the village market in Congo. year 2013

In the next article, we will continue the story of the missions and combat operations of the French Foreign Legion.
Author:
Articles from this series:
https://topwar.ru/170476-psy-vojny-francuzskogo-inostrannogo-legiona.html
Ryzhov V. A. Russian volunteers of the French Foreign Legion
Ryzhov V. A. The most famous Russian “graduates” of the French Foreign Legion. Zinovy ​​Peshkov
Ryzhov V. A. The most successful Russian “legionnaire”. Rodion Malinovsky
Ryzhov V. A. French Foreign Legion in the First and Second World Wars
Ryzhov V.A. Foreign Legion against Vietnam and the Dienbienf Catastrophe
Ryzhov V. A. "Fire in the Empire." Foreign Legion after World War II
Ryzhov V.A. Algerian war of the French Foreign Legion
Ryzhov V.A. Battle of Algeria
Ryzhov V.A. Foreign Legion Commanders in the Algerian War
Ryzhov V. A. "The Time of Skydivers" and "Je ne regrette rien"
Ryzhov V.A. OAS and Delta: against de Gaulle and TNF
Ryzhov V. A. The tragedy of French Algeria
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  1. shubin
    shubin 4 July 2020 06: 44 New
    +7
    And 1941-45, a space. Although, of course, the German army, this is not some Tutsi for you.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 4 July 2020 06: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: shubin
      And 1941-45, a space. Although, of course, the German army, this is not some Tutsi for you.

      But at least honestly and embellishment! laughing
      Thank you Valery !!!
    2. VLR
      4 July 2020 07: 01 New
      +5
      No gap for 1941-1945: look at the end of this article for a list of previous articles in the series. And follow the link https://topwar.ru/170932-francuzskij-inostrannyj-legion-vii-ii-mirovyh-vojnah.html
      1. shubin
        shubin 4 July 2020 07: 12 New
        +6
        Already looked. As expected, in a real war they did not manifest themselves in anything special.
        1. VLR
          4 July 2020 07: 36 New
          +8
          In World War II, the French themselves did not show themselves, first of all. It would be hard to expect that the French Foreign Legion would solve all the problems for the quickly surrendered (and not at all sorry about this) French. But the legionnaires, tyrallers and spagi then, at least, tried to save the honor of France (although the Gumiers messed it up in Italy, but their French commanders shared nothing with them to stop the mass rape, robbery and murder).
          And in the First World Legion he fought quite worthily.
        2. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 4 July 2020 10: 59 New
          +6
          Let me ask you your definition of "real war"?
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 4 July 2020 19: 59 New
            +9
            Hi, hello! A “real” war involves a “real” adversary. Remember how our soldiers rode through the Kwantung Army without even noticing it. Separate episodes do not count; war is war.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 4 July 2020 20: 46 New
              -1
              Greetings, Constantine! hi
              Fair? What is the difference, from which to die, from a cassette RZSO of a real enemy or a native’s poison dart? Although, if you think about it, it is better to be instantly torn by the RZSO.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 4 July 2020 22: 41 New
                +6
                Drive the fool. a young man, and you yourself know this very well. It’s not about what to die from, but in the name of what, and to hell would we bother with all this. I have a feeling that you, brother, do not know the army at all. Do not be offended, we are all ours.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 4 July 2020 22: 42 New
                  +1
                  Why dont know? )))
                  And in the name of what - it is the same for everyone. Of those who know. For the sake of a friend to your left and right hi
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 4 July 2020 22: 49 New
                    +2
                    Albert, I know that Anton served and I know where. All this scribble is just “lyrics”, the question is simple - did you fight? If not, then we both stop bazaar.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 4 July 2020 22: 57 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      Albert, I know that Anton served and I know where. All this scribble is just “lyrics”, the question is simple - did you fight? If not, then we both stop bazaar.

                      2001 - Gaza Strip
                      2006 - Second Lebanese
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 4 July 2020 23: 16 New
                        +2
                        I give up, completely and completely, because I myself did not participate in anything. Therefore, I can not argue about anything. My son visited Ukraine, but he himself does not like to talk about it.
                      2. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 4 July 2020 23: 19 New
                        +3
                        Yes, I’ve been in Rafah for only two weeks, and in Lebanon about half the time, far from the events, I soldered my colleagues laughing Not a pro - reservist. Peacetime term has fallen
                2. Catfish
                  Catfish 5 July 2020 17: 33 New
                  +4
                  Alik, I'm sorry, it's all extra cognac. An old friend came from Moscow, and told such an elbow of the upper level that I instantly died. And he is aware of many things. From this anguish rolled over, and silly here I speak. I do not see the light at the end of the tunnel.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 5 July 2020 17: 36 New
                    +2
                    Cognac is never superfluous, there’s nothing to apologize for)). How are you feeling, Konstantin?
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 5 July 2020 17: 39 New
                      +3
                      It depends on how much. I was already tormented by dragging empty dishes into the barn. And then there's rum and Georgian moonshine. I'm just in touch, I don’t know how it turns out with my fingers to get into the right letter. Alles cuckoo ...
                    2. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 5 July 2020 17: 42 New
                      +3
                      Oh, the mixture turned out to be hellish, especially from chachi - the only drink, half a liter of which can be inserted on Moscow Winter Street)).
                    3. Catfish
                      Catfish 5 July 2020 18: 04 New
                      +2
                      Thank. that you do not forget me. Andrishka, my friend, ventured to go home, Masha was sleeping, the cat was demanding, I fed him from my hands. Full finish. I don’t know how much longer I can hold out. Yes, but it’s not a chacha.
                    4. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 5 July 2020 18: 10 New
                      +2
                      Something stronger or from other ingredients?
                    5. Catfish
                      Catfish 5 July 2020 18: 12 New
                      +2
                      The devil knows him, but is drunk, viper, with a bang. All goodbye until tomorrow.
                    6. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 5 July 2020 18: 12 New
                      +2
                      Feel good! hi
                    7. Catfish
                      Catfish 5 July 2020 18: 14 New
                      +2
                      Oh .... With this wish, go to heaven ... Thank you.
  2. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 4 July 2020 23: 48 New
    +2
    You shouldn’t be so, Uncle Kostya! That's where, where, and in the army in which Albert served, they drive so that I would die in the first six months.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 5 July 2020 17: 23 New
      +3
      Anton, they were very good at me in the CA, give me now a half-four, I’ll figure it out with my eyes closed. But in one thing you are right, an army that does not constantly fight loses the elementary skill of war.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 5 July 2020 17: 34 New
        +2
        But count, Albert served in the army that has been fighting for 70 years in a row.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 5 July 2020 17: 35 New
          +3
          Therefore, he stopped arguing with him. He fought, but I did not.
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 5 July 2020 17: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      You shouldn’t be so, Uncle Kostya! That's where, where, and in the army in which Albert served, they drive so that I would die in the first six months.

      At the age of 17 to 27 years would not die)).
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 5 July 2020 18: 26 New
        +4
        At this age, in the conditions of the Negev desert, he would surely die! But, at the same age, with the separation of locally born, in the conditions of the polar taiga, I would have given a couple of platoons of the IDF, one or two! laughing
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 5 July 2020 18: 44 New
          +1
          Provided that they would not have a single taiga lol
          Winter Negev norms
          March and August calls are really tin laughing
        2. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 5 July 2020 18: 54 New
          +1
          Ha. In the winter in the Negev and I will survive a couple of days, in the presence of three liters of water ...
        3. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 5 July 2020 18: 55 New
          +1
          Even with two liters of water you will survive))
        4. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 5 July 2020 19: 05 New
          +1
          I'll take a master class from you first laughing
        5. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 5 July 2020 19: 13 New
          0
          It's simple - obey sergeants lol
        6. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 5 July 2020 19: 21 New
          +1
          We served in different armies. In that which I, the sergeant, is the same ordinary, only a little more show-offs. And before the junior call.
        7. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 5 July 2020 19: 54 New
          +2
          I'm talking about sergeants - training staff. They took special sergeant courses and special training before the KMB. Old-timers - another
        8. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 5 July 2020 19: 59 New
          +1
          When I served these characters in the army, they generally did not consider the military and they were afraid of the troops like the plague.
        9. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 5 July 2020 20: 04 New
          +2
          We got into training after the operational company, and most after it tried to dump it back)). Holding KMB as a sergeant was good for resumes - in order to enter the officer courses (our officers are growing from conscripts) and to enter various professional / special forces courses
        10. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 5 July 2020 20: 36 New
          +1
          I will tell you how things were in the air defense forces of the USSR in the late 80s and early 90s.
          The draftee either fell into the troops (like me) or into training. Path in the troops: a month of quarantine, oath, month of training for a specialty, during which it turns out that a soldier is able to carry out combat duty or is fit only in a service company; Another path, a rookie gets into training. A month of quarantine, an oath, five months of drill, charter, blankets and pillows aligned on a thread and a full zero in the profession. There are two ways from here, private to the ordinary: either you, like most, will be sent to the troops as private soldiers, where the same thing will happen to you what happened to your call, but four months earlier, or (bingo!), You were lucky, you were assigned a sergeant and left in the unit , chase young!
          Feel the discord?
        11. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 5 July 2020 20: 39 New
          +2
          Why is it not so thought out? Criteria for "election paths"?
        12. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 5 July 2020 21: 03 New
          +2
          There was no choice, everything was decided by sellers and buyers in the monkey house and a health admission group.
          But it wasn’t thought out, because the country was huge, and she did not care who you were: a graduate of a school in St. Petersburg or a graduate of a vocational school in Khatsapetovka.
        13. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 5 July 2020 22: 04 New
          +2
          The case when an excess of human and material resources leads to a mess
        14. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 5 July 2020 22: 18 New
          +1
          Read it. O. Divov "The weapon of retaliation"
        15. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 5 July 2020 22: 19 New
          +1
          Ok, after "writing" today's oncology news I read, thanks! hi
        16. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 5 July 2020 22: 57 New
          +1
          You're welcome!
          Meanwhile, Oleg’s wife died of cancer ...
        17. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 6 July 2020 01: 43 New
          +1
          What Oleg?
        18. Fan
          Fan 7 July 2020 20: 11 New
          -1
          Quote: Krasnodar
          What Oleg?

          The most famous here ... hi
  3. Maki Avellevich
    Maki Avellevich 7 July 2020 20: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Provided that they would not have a single taiga
    Winter Negev norms
    March and August calls are really tin

    I'm calling August 6 (96)
    that same August I wondered several times - how could I have died myself with all my trousers when they went down for a week at 36 degrees. Sadout in the IDF is like a week during which a soldier is taught survival / behavior in nature.
    as an intructor of the young generation of soldiers in the past, I will say that this week aims to introduce the soldier into a cognitive dissonance from stress, trampling it in thorns and dust, lack of sleep and to temper his still young fragile spirit.

    drink was then allowed at the remains of the march. and stop once every two hours. a tough week who was going to agree. but tempers the spirit of a young soldier. then everything else in comparison seems not so painful.
  4. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 7 July 2020 20: 08 New
    +1
    I am November 97
    KMB did in Mikhmash
    Not far from Jericho
    It was normal
    Sadaut lasted three days
    Still do not understand what to do with the Syrian pita? laughing
    They made us drink forcibly
    Because everything was after the death of the EMNIP materialists from dehydration during nivutim (orientation)
  • hohol95
    hohol95 4 July 2020 22: 51 New
    +3
    Good evening, Konstantin! And in the area of ​​Lake Hassan was "pampering"?
    Or maybe there was a difference in the experience of the military and the quality of equipment in 1938 and 1945?
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 4 July 2020 23: 22 New
      +3
      Alexey, hello! And what was there? You yourself wrote that it was "pampering." Neither the command, nor the general leadership of the operation. So, flooded, in the face gave, well, okay ...
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 4 July 2020 23: 26 New
        +2
        "Pampering" then came out very "doubtful." With overwhelming superiority - they simply exhausted the Japanese. Yes, they did not plan serious actions in my opinion. It was a simple "tiger mustache"! And "the tiger turned out to be paper." From this the idea of ​​"zamorouski" was born in Mongolia!
  • Maki Avellevich
    Maki Avellevich 7 July 2020 19: 39 New
    +1

    Squad of Congolese National Police prepares to speak out against Rwandan partisans


    not. this squad is not ready to go anywhere.
    they won’t reach the edge of the village.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 4 July 2020 07: 12 New
    +4
    It seems that racism is bad, but it would be better for blacks to stay so that their countries remain colonies.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 4 July 2020 08: 03 New
    +5
    Africa would not be so rich in various minerals ...
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 4 July 2020 08: 53 New
      -1
      Quote: parusnik
      Africa would not be so rich in various minerals ...

      20% of all the natural resources of the Earth belong to Russia ...
      God forbid we turn into Africa.
      1. Alf
        Alf 4 July 2020 19: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: Boris55
        Quote: parusnik
        Africa would not be so rich in various minerals ...

        20% of all the natural resources of the Earth belong to Russia ...
        God forbid we turn into Africa.

        Some black non-comrades from the State Department openly hinted that "the riches of Russia should belong to the entire world community," though without deciphering which country represents this "world community".
  • Tochilka
    Tochilka 4 July 2020 09: 10 New
    +5
    the cycle is cool! Though samizdatovskuyu knizhentsii masters.
    I’ll add a very tiny touch. I have a book, “The rest is fate”, where on the 200th page, in the dialogue between the characters, Major Raul Dupre is named. Literally: he is not a diplomat, he really fought in Uganda, led the Europeans. Perhaps he is also from the Foreign Legion.
  • VicktorVR
    VicktorVR 4 July 2020 10: 26 New
    0
    And where did the “blacks” get their money? To wage a war?
    Weapons, ammunition, medicines, equipment, uniforms and even rubber boots - where did all this come from?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 4 July 2020 12: 17 New
      +4
      From the sale of earthlings to the sale of fossils. Or from promises to seize such zemlyatse)).
      1. teron
        teron 7 July 2020 16: 29 New
        +1
        That’s for sure - money is always found for war, even from, it seems, poor African states.
    2. VIP
      VIP 4 July 2020 21: 19 New
      +2
      Voodoo spirit threw
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 4 July 2020 10: 38 New
    +3
    Thank you, Valery!
    I always believed that "bonita" is "beautiful", but it turned out that the ending changes the meaning of the word. So you say something senior, and instead of a kiss you get a slap in the face! laughing
    Learn languages, comrades!
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 4 July 2020 12: 18 New
      +2
      And it’s easy to remember by analogy with the Russian word laughing
    2. Alf
      Alf 4 July 2020 19: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      So you say something senior, and instead of a kiss you get a slap in the face!

      It is necessary to say less, but to act more and senior will like it. laughing
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 4 July 2020 21: 54 New
        0
        In these matters, I prefer to rely on my own experience.
        1. Alf
          Alf 4 July 2020 21: 57 New
          +2
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          In these matters, I prefer to rely on my own experience.

          Girls love the brave (and the sassy). Experience.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 4 July 2020 22: 02 New
            +4
            And I understand whether the "unfinished romantic" and I know for sure that "women" love "ears". Experience. laughing
            In addition, I am primarily interested in what a woman has between these very ears, and then already - between the legs
            1. Alf
              Alf 4 July 2020 22: 05 New
              +2
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              And I understand whether the "unfinished romantic" and I know for sure that "women" love "ears". Experience. laughing
              In addition, I am primarily interested in what a woman has between these very ears, and then already - between the legs

              To achieve the result, you need to combine both methods and be able to change shoes in time to jump.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 4 July 2020 22: 11 New
                +1
                To achieve a result it’s easier to use the services of professionals, and they are cheaper, in the end, as practice shows.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 4 July 2020 22: 14 New
                  +2
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  To achieve a result it’s easier to use the services of professionals, and they are cheaper, in the end, as practice shows.

                  Son, that you are so messing with your Natasha, would have taken yes removed the prostitute.
                  Dad, don’t you know the difference between selling love and real love?
                  I know, son, I know, selling is much cheaper ... laughing
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 4 July 2020 22: 18 New
                    +2
                    "Little son came to his father,
                    And she asked the crumb:
                    -Cicholina is good,
                    Is Natasha bad? "
                    1. Alf
                      Alf 4 July 2020 22: 20 New
                      +2
                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      "Little son came to his father,
                      And she asked the crumb:
                      -Cicholina is good,
                      Is Natasha bad? "

                      good
            2. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 4 July 2020 22: 22 New
              +1
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              And I understand whether the "unfinished romantic" and I know for sure that "women" love "ears". Experience. laughing
              In addition, I am primarily interested in what a woman has between these very ears, and then already - between the legs

              I am interested in more locations in a woman. What does a woman have between her chin and nose, etc.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 4 July 2020 22: 29 New
                +2
                You and I have repeatedly discussed this. laughing
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 4 July 2020 22: 32 New
                  +2
                  In fact - she should cook well. laughing If for a serious relationship. And so - what a fool, charm. )))
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 4 July 2020 22: 39 New
                    +1
                    And we also discussed this. laughing
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 4 July 2020 22: 40 New
                      +1
                      And she must know English and be a music fan and Greek laughing
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 4 July 2020 22: 45 New
                        +1
                        By the way, I still don’t know her name ... request
                      2. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 4 July 2020 22: 46 New
                        +2
                        Europe Zeus. Ugh ... Aphrodite Archimedes. I.e. Or Athena Poseidonovna ... For yours - Come Here.
                      3. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 4 July 2020 22: 49 New
                        +1
                        Yeah, I understand that you read the father-in-law a little more than your spouse. laughing
                      4. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 4 July 2020 22: 55 New
                        +3
                        “I wanted to ask you, young man, before the wedding with my daughter, what are your future plans for life?”
                        - With the help of God, I will get a job, learn the field of activity, then, God forbid, I will open my own business and have children.
                        After the conversation, the future mother-in-law to her husband:
                        - Shaw, what about the groom?
                        - A good guy, speaks with respect, calls me Gd ...
                      5. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 4 July 2020 23: 11 New
                        +1
                        "- Do you like the noblewoman?
                        - Love like crazy!
                        - Well, get married, bony! " (FROM)
                      6. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 4 July 2020 23: 15 New
                        +1
                        What else do you need, dog? )))
                      7. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 4 July 2020 23: 27 New
                        +1
                        Well, definitely not Angela Jolie! laughing
                      8. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 4 July 2020 23: 36 New
                        +1
                        No, well, between her nose and chin everything is fine with her ..))
                      9. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 4 July 2020 23: 44 New
                        +2
                        However, between the ears everything is bad ...
                      10. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 4 July 2020 23: 46 New
                        +1
                        Why? Dollar multimillionaire, a bunch of adopted children scored that deserves respect, quite talented ..
                      11. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 5 July 2020 00: 09 New
                        +3
                        Yeah, cut off your boobs, learning about the alleged predisposition to oncology - a sign of a healthy female mind ???
                      12. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 5 July 2020 00: 10 New
                        +1
                        How do you know what phobias she has, what she has experienced in life, etc.?
                      13. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 5 July 2020 00: 26 New
                        +3
                        I imagine what she experienced. She buried her mother, who died of ovarian cancer. I buried my father, who died from lung cancer ... All my paternal older relatives died of oncology ... Will I, therefore, be preemptively hanged?
                      14. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 5 July 2020 00: 34 New
                        +1
                        Stop smoking, for example. And eat sausages, sausages, ham, pork and beef.
                        Stop working with asbestos if you work.

                      15. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 5 July 2020 00: 38 New
                        +1
                        Astute! good laughing
                        Stop smoking abruptly, even traumatologists do not recommend. laughing
                      16. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 5 July 2020 00: 40 New
                        +1
                        Recommendations of traumatologists for the prevention of lung cancer is a very valuable factor)), Throw gradually
  • Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 4 July 2020 22: 16 New
    +2
    Quote: Alf
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    So you say something senior, and instead of a kiss you get a slap in the face!

    It is necessary to say less, but to act more and senior will like it. laughing

    Each flower has its own approach! No wonder they say that girls love with their ears, and the path to a man through the stomach !!! drinks
    1. Alf
      Alf 4 July 2020 22: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Each flower has its own approach! No wonder they say that girls love with their ears, and the path to a man through the stomach !!!

      Thank God, I’m not looking for access to men, I’m not from a multicolor fraternity, but I like to eat it.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 4 July 2020 22: 34 New
        +1
        I love to eat
        Who does not love! So, I'm trying to make at least 92 out of 82 kg! About 75, I don’t even dream ... crying
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 4 July 2020 23: 05 New
          +2
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          I love to eat
          Who does not love! So, I'm trying to make at least 92 out of 82 kg! About 75, I don’t even dream ... crying

          Anton buddy, I’ve been weighing 10 kg for 124 years already! So, if such a thought reappears, remember me a sinner !!!
          Today I watched an oil painting. A neighbor holds a healthy cat in her arms, and Mom’s cat Stesha is cracking from his bowl! The cat wriggles, hisses. Felts from shame before the lady, felts from impudence of the neighbor's cat !!! The mistress reassures him "be a man, yield to the woman, especially since she is pregnant!" I laugh - "she's sterilized." Aunt falls into a stupor. The cat breaks out of his hands, slaps to the ground. The bogey of fright sculpts him in the face, bouncing, knocking over the bowl with the eaters demonstratively leaving. A neighbor, with a surprise “but such a stomach”? I laugh “eat less!” Mom has no more than three plates, different types of food.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 4 July 2020 23: 22 New
            +1
            Vlad! It became hard for me to work. No, I understand, age, that, fifth, tenth ... But, damn it, drag 20kg to the fourth floor, panting on my shoulder ??? Somehow I don't like it negative
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 5 July 2020 05: 59 New
              +1
              Let's take care of yourself !!!
              Sincerely, Vlad!
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 5 July 2020 08: 36 New
                +1
                Thanks, I will try!
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 4 July 2020 12: 23 New
    +3
    The worst thing is that in the world this genocide was absolutely of no interest to anyone. There was a condemnation of Russian actions in Chechnya, detailed coverage of Israeli operations in Lebanon, Gaza, Judea and Samaria with a scrupulous count of Palestinian victims, and 5 million people were killed in the 90s and early 2000s by no one
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 4 July 2020 12: 57 New
      +2
      Africa is isolated from the global information space.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 4 July 2020 13: 00 New
        0
        She just doesn't interest anyone
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 4 July 2020 13: 04 New
          +7
          Let's just say that nobody cares that "the lives of blacks are important." First of all, blacks themselves.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 4 July 2020 13: 08 New
            +6
            Heh. They stood behind the slave-trade people of their skin color - who sold their prisoners and debtors to white? )))
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 4 July 2020 13: 19 New
              +5
              I know something. However, the philistine opinion that the slave traders themselves ran through the jungle for their “goods” prevails. From here:
              "Black has a sense of rhythm,
              White has a feeling of guilt "(C)
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 4 July 2020 13: 50 New
                +3
                A poem written in 1958 by a Soviet poet:

                Vladimir Uflyand

                Is America Changing?

                America is changing.
                Negroes will come to power in it soon.
                The freedom that stands on the shore
                repainted under a black woman.

                The poor will laugh
                Over all sorts of Millionaires.

                And some
                will
                White
                try to pretend to be Negroes.

                And the Negroes will be respected.

                And the Black One will be famous.

                And every white
                will be the first
                when meeting with Negro
                Negro bow.
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 4 July 2020 14: 19 New
                  +2
                  Heinlein went further.
                  1. saygon66
                    saygon66 4 July 2020 16: 59 New
                    +2
                    “Farnem's fluency?”
                    - Not far from the truth - Negroes easily survive the spoiled white population in case of any cataclysms ... wink
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 4 July 2020 19: 09 New
                      +4
                      Depending on where - if in the southern states and the American outback - it will be exactly the opposite, local “shooting societies” will be cut out under the guise of African Americans with Ladinos, the British will quickly sort out their own ones, France and others will suffer.
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 4 July 2020 19: 42 New
                        +1
                        American outback
                        Especially in Utah. laughing
                      2. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 4 July 2020 19: 58 New
                        +1
                        Texas, Alabama and other tolerant guys laughing
                      3. saygon66
                        saygon66 4 July 2020 21: 12 New
                        +2
                        - If ... Now you have forgotten how to put things in order ... so that by "fire and sword", "red-hot iron" and all that ... Make love - note war, rastafara, ja and sensimiglia ... wassat
                        -
                      4. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 4 July 2020 22: 13 New
                        +2
                        Yes, there are enough of their neo-Nazis and just militants, veterans, athletes, and so on. White garbage
                      5. saygon66
                        saygon66 4 July 2020 22: 50 New
                        +1
                        - Here, by the way, about veterans! Among them, a large percentage of Latinos and blacks - there is someone to train the “army” on a racial basis!
                      6. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 4 July 2020 22: 59 New
                        +2
                        Of the veterans of combat units - Latinos, yes, few Africans
                      7. saygon66
                        saygon66 4 July 2020 23: 03 New
                        +1
                        - So they will give Chicanos jazz ... And the white trash are not fighters ... met mow them without war.
                      8. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 4 July 2020 23: 08 New
                        +2
                        Not fighters - but they will fight .. we shoot in kind laughing
                  2. bubalik
                    bubalik 4 July 2020 23: 13 New
                    +5
                    ,,, the US armed forces are approximately: 69% there are white, 17% blacks, the remaining 14% are Asians, Latinos and others.
                    Most blacks tend to get anywhere: into tankers, sappers, artillery, communications, chemical units, air defense, logistics - and even to the military police, but not to “straight legs”.
                    The infantry among the black population have a bad reputation since the days of Vietnam.
                    "Clever in artillery, brave in cavalry, a drunkard in the navy, and d ** in the infantry."
                    There are practically no blacks in the special forces.
                  3. saygon66
                    saygon66 4 July 2020 23: 59 New
                    +1
                    -And no wonder ... With their appearance, you can’t pretend to be anything but a fire ... smile
                  4. Phil77
                    Phil77 5 July 2020 08: 57 New
                    +3
                    Quote: bubalik
                    There are practically no blacks in the special forces.

                    Negro does not play hockey! wink laughing
      2. Alf
        Alf 4 July 2020 22: 10 New
        +3
        Quote: Krasnodar
        It depends where - if in the southern states and the American outback

        Especially in the outback. The local sheriff will look at the corpse of the Negro with 17 stabs in the back and next to the rope on his neck and say what a cruel suicide ... crying
      3. Phil77
        Phil77 5 July 2020 09: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: Alf

        Especially in the outback. The local sheriff will look at the corpse of the Negro with 17 stabs in the back and next to the rope on his neck and say what a cruel suicide ...

        Covid 19? laughing
  • Alf
    Alf 4 July 2020 19: 56 New
    +5
    Quote: Krasnodar
    A poem written in 1958 by a Soviet poet:

    Vladimir Uflyand

    Is America Changing?

    America is changing.
    Negroes will come to power in it soon.
    The freedom that stands on the shore
    repainted under a black woman.

    The poor will laugh
    Over all sorts of Millionaires.

    And some
    will
    White
    try to pretend to be Negroes.

    And the Negroes will be respected.

    And the Black One will be famous.

    And every white
    will be the first
    when meeting with Negro
    Negro bow.

    As he looked into the water ...
  • Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 4 July 2020 22: 20 New
    +3
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    I know something. However, the philistine opinion that the slave traders themselves ran through the jungle for their “goods” prevails. From here:
    "Black has a sense of rhythm,
    White has a feeling of guilt "(C)

    Not even here the Arabs sat on a gold mine in Africa !!! If not half of the “black” goods went through their hands !!!
  • Maki Avellevich
    Maki Avellevich 7 July 2020 20: 57 New
    +1
    By the way, the first slaves in America were white British. Who is for debt, who is for vagrancy. True for a period of not more than seven years, according to the laws of the Old Testament.
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 4 July 2020 22: 19 New
    0
    Nobody is interested in blacks in Africa, and her fossils interest everyone. Apparently, the global democratic community is looking forward to the last aborigine to die out to pocket everything that is there.
    1. Alf
      Alf 4 July 2020 23: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Doliva63
      Apparently, the global democratic community is looking forward to the last aborigine to die out to pocket everything that is there.

      And then whom to drive into the mines?
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 4 July 2020 23: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: Doliva63
        Apparently, the global democratic community is looking forward to the last aborigine to die out to pocket everything that is there.

        And then whom to drive into the mines?

        Own unemployed who correctly vote laughing
        1. Alf
          Alf 4 July 2020 23: 22 New
          0
          Quote: Doliva63
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Doliva63
          Apparently, the global democratic community is looking forward to the last aborigine to die out to pocket everything that is there.

          And then whom to drive into the mines?

          Own unemployed who correctly vote laughing

          Try it, the cries of human rights defenders on Mars will be heard ...
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 4 July 2020 23: 26 New
            0
            Quote: Alf
            Quote: Doliva63
            Quote: Alf
            Quote: Doliva63
            Apparently, the global democratic community is looking forward to the last aborigine to die out to pocket everything that is there.

            And then whom to drive into the mines?

            Own unemployed who correctly vote laughing

            Try it, the cries of human rights defenders on Mars will be heard ...

            And if Gazprom Tajiks will carry there, for example? laughing We will give them to Shell as well, if we rent them out, and to De Beers laughing
            1. Alf
              Alf 4 July 2020 23: 28 New
              0
              Quote: Doliva63
              And if Gazprom Tajiks will carry there, for example? We will give them to Shell as well, if we rent them out, and to De Beers

              But only with a one-way ticket. And let them pay the freight, oats ... gasoline is expensive now.
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 4 July 2020 23: 31 New
                0
                Quote: Alf
                Quote: Doliva63
                And if Gazprom Tajiks will carry there, for example? We will give them to Shell as well, if we rent them out, and to De Beers

                But only with a one-way ticket. And let them pay the freight, oats ... gasoline is expensive now.

                I joked about the Tajiks, of course. But bloodless Africa is the dream of the capitalists, agree!
                1. Alf
                  Alf 4 July 2020 23: 37 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  But bloodless Africa is the dream of the capitalists, agree!

                  It doesn’t work, local breeds like rabbits.
                2. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 4 July 2020 23: 51 New
                  0
                  Quote: Alf
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  But bloodless Africa is the dream of the capitalists, agree!

                  It doesn’t work, local breeds like rabbits.

                  All sorts of Ebola - on this topic. Soon cease to breed. A matter of time. And a lot of money.
  • Alf
    Alf 4 July 2020 19: 55 New
    +2
    Quote: Krasnodar
    The worst thing is that in the world this genocide was absolutely of no interest to anyone. There was a conviction .... with a scrupulous count of Palestinian victims, and 5 million people killed in the 90s and early 2000s were simply invisible to anyone

    As already noted, Africa is one of the richest parts of the world, in this regard, the "big boys" actively shared it, and, as was rightly said two thousand years ago, Money loves counting and silence. Especially the people of Israel like to say this phrase ...
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 4 July 2020 20: 00 New
      +1
      That's right - and the money is good there
  • seagull
    seagull 4 July 2020 17: 47 New
    +3
    You look at old photographs, all countries moved to the modern form. In our country, just like kirzachs and riding breeches were in VO, they didn’t change until the 90s ... Unless they introduced “Awanks” in Avgan ... At the same time, thousands of tanks and missiles were riveted ...
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 4 July 2020 22: 23 New
      0
      Quote: seagull
      You look at old photographs, all countries moved to the modern form. In our country, just like kirzachs and riding breeches were in VO, they didn’t change until the 90s ... Unless they introduced “Awanks” in Avgan ... At the same time, thousands of tanks and missiles were riveted ...

      Chuhnu-sporoli, dear. Where it was necessary, wore panamas and boots, and somewhere even shorts. And not “aVgan”, but “afgan” - the country is called afganistan, if that. And yes, the breeches, like, were still canceled by Grechko in the late 60s.
      1. seagull
        seagull 6 July 2020 09: 02 New
        0
        That's just in the early 90s golf (a little narrower) wears))) PS called ...
        I’m talking about general trends in the development of uniforms ... there were unloading, but these are "copies" from German times in the past ...
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 6 July 2020 20: 23 New
          0
          Quote: seagull
          That's just in the early 90s golf (a little narrower) wears))) PS called ...
          I’m talking about general trends in the development of uniforms ... there were unloading, but these are "copies" from German times in the past ...

          Well, I don’t know. I wore a PSh in the 80s - there were quite “straight pants” for myself. And at the expense of trends - it all depends on the theater. And "unloading" - are they really needed? Someone with brains, and in 40 OA cost the regular RD-54.
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 4 July 2020 22: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: seagull
      You look at old photographs, all countries moved to the modern form. In our country, just like kirzachs and riding breeches were in VO, they didn’t change until the 90s ... Unless they introduced “Awanks” in Avgan ... At the same time, thousands of tanks and missiles were riveted ...

      Well, firstly, our form of the 60s was one of the most convenient in the world!
      Secondly, in Africa we did not have colonies and we did not plan to deploy a large war on the black continent. So choosing the best grandfather kerzach or modern serial army berets, in central Russia I will choose the first!
      Thirdly, the tropical field form was and is! True, without a sheet, as in the foreign army of the United States, but at that time it was modern. About 10 years ago, even by pulling it was possible to dig from warehouses, today you can buy FIGs. For the summer, a sweet deal.
      Fourth, panama in the tropics is much more convenient than the Afghan woman. The latter has only one plus, it does not interfere with transportation by fields. It takes a cap and are inferior in functionality to both. For fun, go to a military trade or hunting store and compare the prices of Panama in the summer, an order of magnitude more expensive and more in demand than other hats from hunters and tourists. Well and last, the best winter headdress is a hat with ear flaps !!!
      1. seagull
        seagull 6 July 2020 10: 58 New
        +3
        I don’t want to develop a “holivar” regarding kirzach / berets, everything has already been dealt a million times before ... The fact that the Union did not pay enough attention to the development and improvement of uniforms does not cancel ... Overcoat, “kirzach” and “sidor” were our “Everything” ... There were a lot of things in the warehouses, but they wore “grandfather's” in the linear parts ... Three OBTs with practically identical performance characteristics The Union could afford, and three uniforms (“desert” for the middle band and “ arctic ") no. At the same time, the raw material and technical bases were ...
  • DimanC
    DimanC 4 July 2020 18: 01 New
    +1
    You read - and you understand that Africa is really blazing, and it is consciously supported in this state. Including, with bayonets of a foreign legion ...
  • Corvus99
    Corvus99 4 July 2020 18: 02 New
    +3
    Twenty five again. Mbumba did not participate in the rebellion of Shramm, did not participate. At that time, he was the Commissioner of Police in Kolwezi.
  • Alf
    Alf 4 July 2020 19: 42 New
    +3
    Apparently, these states had few concerns, all problems were resolved long ago).

    It is in this, old, but no, ancient way that the attention of the population is distracted from internal problems.
    Problems in Russia, America is to blame ...
  • Alf
    Alf 4 July 2020 19: 44 New
    +4
    Then France entered into business, which promised to bomb the positions of both of them.

    A very convincing argument, it helps almost always, especially if the words are confirmed by deed. And without analyzing ...
  • VIP
    VIP 4 July 2020 20: 46 New
    +4
    Valery, a gorgeous cycle. I will now begin to read the first.
  • VIP
    VIP 4 July 2020 21: 08 New
    +7
    "Colonel Erulen himself jumped first," a real MUZHIK, soldiers of any tear for such a commander.
    If we discard all political chatter in FIG, but only the facts, if it were not for the second parachute regiment, then White would be a complete Trindets in Congolese. In general, to be a hostage is lousy, and be white in the hands of monkeys .... Guys, as you want, but my opinion: 2/3 of Africans were, are and will be savages
    1. Alf
      Alf 4 July 2020 22: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: VIP
      Guys, whatever you want, but my opinion: 2/3 of Africans were, are and will be savages

      Are you sure that only 2/3?
    2. Doliva63
      Doliva63 4 July 2020 22: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: VIP
      "Colonel Erulen himself jumped first," a real MUZHIK, soldiers of any tear for such a commander.
      If we discard all political chatter in FIG, but only the facts, if it were not for the second parachute regiment, then White would be a complete Trindets in Congolese. In general, to be a hostage is lousy, and be white in the hands of monkeys .... Guys, as you want, but my opinion: 2/3 of Africans were, are and will be savages

      If reconnaissance and preparation of the landing site has been carried out, if there are a lot of different jumps behind your back, why not jump? And earned money, and recognition of personnel laughing Standard move for raising authority. But then the Cuban and GDR instructors put everything in their place - this legion did not achieve anything there - wild blacks insisted on their own. If the war went to complete annihilation, then the legion would have an advantage - in technology and weapons. And so - a bummer. I admire the Germans and Cubans - we had teachers at our school who fought in Africa, they tried not to swear at the Africans like a soldier, but those guys somehow managed!
      1. Anton S
        Anton S 5 July 2020 09: 40 New
        +2
        You are mistaken about the reconnaissance, then it wasn’t made. In the 2nd parachute regiment of the IL there is a group of commando paratroopers, their main task is to designate the landing zone for the main forces of the regiment. So, there weren’t them on the ground in Kolwezi. saying into the unknown. It was assumed that if in the first 15 minutes after landing, the regiment’s losses would be about 10%, then the landing itself can be considered successful. Then the regiment coped with its task, defeated the rebels, cleaned the city. The operation in Kolwezi is considered one of the most successful landing operations in the post-war time.
  • VIP
    VIP 4 July 2020 21: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Depending on where - if in the southern states and the American outback - it will be exactly the opposite, local “shooting societies” will be cut out under the guise of African Americans with Ladinos, the British will quickly sort out their own ones, France and others will suffer.

    I’m afraid that this will end: White will look, tolerate African tolerance and take up arms.
  • VIP
    VIP 4 July 2020 21: 24 New
    +3
    Quote: Dart2027
    It seems that racism is bad, but it would be better for blacks to stay so that their countries remain colonies.

    It seems like the truth: the white gentleman will not allow such a massacre as a Hutu-Tutsi, if only because there will be no one to work
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 4 July 2020 21: 44 New
    0
    "One paratrooper was killed in a Belgian regiment."
    It is customary to speak / write "in a regiment" rather than "in a regiment".
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 4 July 2020 22: 06 New
    0
    "... Then, units of the 2nd Parachute Regiment of the Foreign Legion, the 3rd Parachute Regiment of the Marine Corps, the 13th Parachute Dragoon Regiment and two companies of the 8th Regiment of the Marine Corps were relocated to Rwanda from the Central African Republic on October 7 with their help the rebels were driven back into the forests of Akagera National Park but could not be fully won. "
    It’s not for nothing that the Cuban and GDR instructors ate their bread laughing
  • bandabas
    bandabas 5 July 2020 01: 53 New
    0
    Everything is beautiful. But, the Vietnamese made them.
  • vavilon
    vavilon 5 July 2020 13: 31 New
    0
    From my own experience:
    served in the Soviet Airborne Army 83-85 years and also served in the French Legion,
    I will be honest, firstly, the legion presented itself to me as a kindergarten compared to the Soviet army
    and secondly, the legionnaires have never encountered regular organized forces over their entire military career.
    1. VLR
      5 July 2020 14: 27 New
      +1
      Sorry, you are wrong about the clashes with the regular army (apparently with the regular European?). During the Crimean War, the legionnaires fought against the Russian army. During the Franco-Prussian, World War I and II - against the Prussian and German.
      1. vavilon
        vavilon 5 July 2020 15: 24 New
        +1
        Yes, you’re right. They took part in world wars, but the fact of the matter is that without substantial success.
        The Legion was created primarily for the colonization of Africa and, to some extent, it performs this function to this day.
        And of course, we must pay tribute to the fact that the legion today is a pretty solid military structure
    2. Anton S
      Anton S 5 July 2020 14: 50 New
      +1
      And in which regiment served in the legion and in what years?
      1. vavilon
        vavilon 5 July 2020 14: 58 New
        -1
        Started at Fort de Nogent, Fontenay-sous-Bois (if that tells you anything) 1999
        And for more detailed information))))) sorry, not for the public
        1. Anton S
          Anton S 5 July 2020 15: 16 New
          +1
          There are no fighting companies in Fort de Nogent. Who were you there? What is your matricule (at least the first 3 digits)? I do not ask you for any top-secret information. What is this about your regiment?
          1. vavilon
            vavilon 5 July 2020 15: 31 New
            -2
            Dear interlocutor, I didn’t tell you that I was constantly there; I didn’t tell you where I started this in the first place,
            and secondly, where and in which year do you excuse me, can you still indicate the surname and name?))) She wasn’t mine either))
            1. Anton S
              Anton S 5 July 2020 15: 40 New
              +1
              Surname is not necessary, the first 3 digits of the matricule are enough. If you really served there, you should know that there is nothing secret about it.
              1. vavilon
                vavilon 5 July 2020 15: 51 New
                -2
                Who you are and what you will think is completely indifferent to me, I'm not going to prove anything to anyone
                1. Anton S
                  Anton S 5 July 2020 16: 02 New
                  +3
                  Well, if you declare that the Foreign Legion is a kindergarten and do not want to confirm your affiliation to this unit, indicating your matricule, if you certainly had one, then most likely you were not there or, in general, were not further Fort de Nogent advanced.
                  If you make such high-profile statements, then be prepared for the fact that they will ask you for some clarifications in order to understand what you saw there for your service.
                  1. vavilon
                    vavilon 5 July 2020 16: 20 New
                    -2
                    What I saw for my service and for my life does not concern anyone, and you first carefully read my first comment, I just compared only the service in the airborne forces - the Soviet army and the legion.
                    And why do you have objections to this? Do you have anything to compare?
                    1. Legionista
                      Legionista 5 July 2020 16: 31 New
                      0
                      Bonjour) donc, quelle matricule, old)? Quelle régiment)? Si vous ne pouvez pas répondre à cette question, alors vous n'étiez pas là.
                    2. Anton S
                      Anton S 5 July 2020 16: 34 New
                      +2
                      In your first comment, you said that you served in the legion, but I have doubts that you were there and can compare. If you don’t want to name your regiment, at least name the regiment of the legion to which the guys belong in the title photo of this article (in an open jeep against the background of the Africans), this is a very simple question, who served immediately will say.
                      1. vavilon
                        vavilon 5 July 2020 17: 34 New
                        -2
                        ))))))) Here the tantrum went))))))
                        How hurt the pride of the servants for grandmother and French paper))))
                        Do you want to introduce yourself as tough guys? Are you ideological?
                        With washing machines with hot water, with holidays, weekends, and so on, you can list without, of course, you can serve as much as you like anywhere.
                        And the modern legionnaire and for months could not stand in the Soviet army of those times, especially in the Airborne Forces.
                        But I do not answer all your questions from the principle and observe your reaction.
                        What do you think doesn’t matter to me.
                        And I communicate with my circle of colleagues and much easier guys

                        -PS Qui ne comprend pas peut traduire en français
                      2. Anton S
                        Anton S 5 July 2020 17: 44 New
                        +2
                        It wasn’t about washing machines, but about the fact that you didn’t serve there, although you say the opposite. You compare, but how can you do it if you weren’t there? By the way, how does washing by hand make you cooler as a soldier?
                        With you personally, people who understand everything are clear. You are, to put it mildly, the speaker of untruth)).
                      3. vavilon
                        vavilon 5 July 2020 18: 06 New
                        -2
                        The conversation was about comparing two armies and not who served where, but if I compare, it means something speaks for itself, because I don’t ask anything personal about where you were or the like
                        Moreover, I didn’t speak out badly about the legion; I wanted to convey that I prepared myself mentally and physically, taking the example from the Soviet army and thought it would be even harder, but to my surprise it was much easier than I thought and therefore for me personally the legion was very easy service.
                        But now I don’t understand what is my truth in this case?
                      4. Anton S
                        Anton S 5 July 2020 18: 09 New
                        +1
                        That you did not serve there
                      5. vavilon
                        vavilon 5 July 2020 18: 17 New
                        -1
                        It is your right to believe or not
                      6. Anton S
                        Anton S 5 July 2020 18: 29 New
                        +2
                        You say that you didn’t speak badly about the legion, calling it a kindergarten, you say that you served in the legion, so you can compare, although you didn’t answer a single question, give some childish arguments about washing machines and vacations, you compare that that you can’t compare, because you weren’t there. It’s a solid, non-adult, empty demagogy. You better tell about the hardships of military service in the narrow circle of your friends, because from all of the above you can see that you don’t know how to turn bags, but you can only do something else.
                        About the fact that the modern legionnaire would not have lasted a month in the Soviet airborne forces, it is not known how much you would have stayed in the Foreign Legion, but we will not know this, because you were not there.
                      7. vavilon
                        vavilon 5 July 2020 19: 16 New
                        -2
                        Where I was there I no longer have a
                        your comment probably from your own memories
                        If for you my statement about kindergarten is “blood resentment” and you still do not understand why I mentioned the washing machine!? what then can you discuss with you when your arrogance rolls over.
                        You can be a legionnaire like me James Bond
                        good luck
                      8. Anton S
                        Anton S 5 July 2020 19: 38 New
                        +1
                        My main assertion is that you are a liar, carefully read your own comments, you wrote that you "served in the legion", but it is clear to me that you did not serve there. You mislead the members of the forum. The argument "want to believe it, want it no "is the on-duty argument of empty-bells. And what arrogance are you talking about? I myself didn’t write anything to myself. I just call a spade a spade: you are a liar.
                      9. vavilon
                        vavilon 5 July 2020 20: 17 New
                        -2
                        If I said that I was there, then I was and I’m not going to explain anything to anyone and prove whether you were there and it doesn’t interest me at all. therefore did not ask
                        In general, arrogance lies in the fact that you imagine yourself a cool warrior, and I saw dared to speak out not to please you
                        Yes, and stop pouring from empty to me your empty talk is not interesting.
                      10. Anton S
                        Anton S 5 July 2020 20: 25 New
                        +1
                        Empty chatter is about you. Carefully read my comments, where I called myself a cool warrior? Do not turn it upside down. Do not want to talk about your mythical adventures in the legion, tell me at least from which regiment of the legion the guys in the title photo of the article (in open jeep against the background of Africans), this is a simple question, it is not about you.
                      11. vavilon
                        vavilon 5 July 2020 20: 45 New
                        -2
                        You do not call yourself as such represent.
                        And if I wanted to powder your brains, I would draw information from the Internet and answer your provocative questions
                        Well, as I said, this is my life where I was and what I did and I ask no one to believe me or not
                      12. Anton S
                        Anton S 5 July 2020 21: 04 New
                        +1
                        I treat myself calmly and with humor, but something is wrong with you - you invented a service in the legion, you cannot answer the simplest questions. In short, sheer idle talk.
                      13. vavilon
                        vavilon 5 July 2020 21: 17 New
                        -1
                        If you enjoy it, I’ll inform you of the following:
                        I have not been anywhere I have not served anywhere for almost 60 years I sit on a sofa in my village I weigh 200 kg and just chat on the Internet
                        Hopefully now fall asleep calmly)))
                      14. Anton S
                        Anton S 5 July 2020 21: 22 New
                        +1
                        I would have slept so calmly. But just now, most likely, they said something similar to the truth. Do not lie more about the legion, you will quickly get it. Good night.
                      15. vavilon
                        vavilon 5 July 2020 22: 44 New
                        -2
                        I am very glad that you have calmed down, and about the “lies” on your part, it’s not concrete to incriminate someone if you have no reason for it and your speculation alone. Moreover, I’m sure that there is a significant age difference between us
                        And this is only a sign of your weakness and helplessness
                        Good luck .
                      16. Anton S
                        Anton S 6 July 2020 00: 04 New
                        +1
                        Yes, even before that I was calm, where did you see that I was overexcited? It throws you not childishly. Thoughts are just the same with you, because you are discussing on a topic that you have no idea about. And about age: telling lies and to mislead people, hoping that you will not be taken to clean water, is bad at any age.
                      17. vavilon
                        vavilon 6 July 2020 09: 06 New
                        -2
                        About the soldier woke up luck))))
                        Come on, tell me
                        What is the daily routine in the legion on ordinary days and holidays? )))
                      18. Anton S
                        Anton S 6 July 2020 09: 13 New
                        +2
                        C'mon, everything is clear to you, all the best
                      19. vavilon
                        vavilon 6 July 2020 09: 18 New
                        -2
                        So you yourself answered everything
                        And never ask anyone what you asked me, and if you want to find out something, ask something simpler, that is not available to the average citizen on the Internet
                        Good luck
                      20. Anton S
                        Anton S 6 July 2020 09: 26 New
                        +1
                        What did I answer? What did you understand? You’re giving out some obscure set of words on the air. The legend about your service in the legion did not work, come up with a new one.
                      21. vavilon
                        vavilon 6 July 2020 09: 31 New
                        -2
                        And your ride?))) You after all cannot answer the elementary question
                      22. Anton S
                        Anton S 6 July 2020 09: 38 New
                        +1
                        And where did I personally tell you that I served there? I’m not going to throw beads in front of you. If I am asked by people who really served there, not like you, I will answer them and they will very quickly understand whether I was there or not, and certainly their first question will not be about the daily routine. You don’t own the question, in general.
                      23. vavilon
                        vavilon 6 July 2020 09: 41 New
                        0
                        Then why do you ask strangers what you yourself do not want to answer?
                      24. Anton S
                        Anton S 6 July 2020 09: 51 New
                        +1
                        Because strangers like you claim to have served there, and when they are asked about the matricule and the regiment in which they served (the first questions that are asked in this case) they begin to move out and pour water
                      25. vavilon
                        vavilon 6 July 2020 10: 04 New
                        -2
                        And what kind of people !? I personally did something bad to you !? unless the part number suits you to determine the person he served or not?))) Yes, open the Internet and choose any,))
                        for example, I don’t care in what part you served or are serving, or maybe you don’t have any relation to the army at all, it’s not interesting for me, but you couldn’t answer a simple question.
                      26. Anton S
                        Anton S 6 July 2020 10: 17 New
                        +1
                        You said that the Legion is a kindergarten and you served there, but to me and another Legionista forum member, after simple questions it immediately became clear that you were not there. I personally did not do anything wrong, I focus on the fact that you are there did not serve and tell a lie.
                      27. Anton S
                        Anton S 6 July 2020 10: 30 New
                        +1
                        And I didn’t ask about the part number, I asked about the regiment where you served in the legion
                      28. vavilon
                        vavilon 6 July 2020 11: 02 New
                        -2
                        And "matricule" is what you think is not
                        registration number?
                        And as for the kindergarten, I’m tired of repeating it personally for me, but for you it’s possible it’s a harsh soldier’s everyday life.
                        And if the legionnaire had to meet with the combat unit of the Soviet army on the battlefield earlier, that legion would have a chance of 1 in 10. In the early eighties, our soldiers themselves were eager for Afghanistan and note not French papers and not monetary remuneration, but purely because of patriotic feelings
                        They did not have long-term vacations, sanatoriums, and many other privileges enjoyed by the legionnaires,
                        draw conclusions "soldier of fortune"
                      29. Anton S
                        Anton S 6 July 2020 11: 26 New
                        +1
                        Oru loudly))) If for you the matricule is the part number, then even in theory you are not savvy, now you are asleep in full. You have never been a legionnaire (this is what you "served" on the question of). Matricule is a personal unique number of a legionnaire, it can be used to determine in which years he served and this is what they ask first of all when they want to know if he really served.
                        You cannot compare it because you have never been a legionnaire.
                        And about your assumptions about who will win the virtual battle, so the children in the sandbox argue "my folder will give your lyuley."
                        Do not write anything about the legion, because you do not know anything about it and the information you draw from the empty chimes that look like you.
                        Anyone who served there, having read our correspondence, will immediately understand who is who. Curtain.
                      30. vavilon
                        vavilon 6 July 2020 11: 43 New
                        -2
                        That's exactly what I understand. You can define everything literally.
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                      32. Anton S
                        Anton S 6 July 2020 11: 54 New
                        +1
                        Don’t worry you like that, you aren’t the only one, Sharikov in “Dog’s Heart” also shouted that he was at war on Kolchak’s fronts. Just the next time you see or hear the word “Legion”, look down and pass by, it's not about you, not for you to compare.
                      33. vavilon
                        vavilon 6 July 2020 12: 10 New
                        -2
                        A person from hopelessness begins to be rude, I think it's about you
                        And if you want to meet me there is no problem, tell your personal number (matricule - He doesn’t mean anything to you) and I will find you myself
                        Then we’ll see whose head goes down
                      34. Anton S
                        Anton S 6 July 2020 12: 28 New
                        +1
                        It just became interesting: how do you find me on the matricule, James Bond? If you really want me, the command of the legion on matricule can hardly find me, where are you already climbing? Just pass by. You’re trying to keep a good face with a very bad game. And you don’t need to threaten me here and shoot arrows, believe me, frustration will come.
                      35. vavilon
                        vavilon 6 July 2020 12: 46 New
                        -2
                        Why are you afraid to report what you asked of me?
                        And even more so, you are sure that it does not matter and I can’t find you, then why such a tantrum?
                        Well, where did you see the threat? What does it seem to you again? Talking face to face is a threat to you! Well then, I have no comment.
                      36. Anton S
                        Anton S 6 July 2020 12: 56 New
                        +1
                        Where did you see the tantrum? About the "let's see whose head goes down" is not a veiled threat? Everything is fine with me and nothing seems to me. Name at least one reason for me to meet with a chime (we’ve already decided on you). I’ve already talked to you. And you really shouldn’t leave them about “without comment”, ridiculous shooter shooter.
                  2. Anton S
                    Anton S 6 July 2020 12: 36 New
                    +1
                    And why should I date you? Everything is clear to you. You have too much opinion about your person
                  3. vavilon
                    vavilon 6 July 2020 13: 16 New
                    -1
                    (My dear!)
                    It is unfortunate that your right was denied.
                    And note, by refusing me I do not blame you for anything, and you would therefore have already made a lot of conclusions about this and raised a whole wave of tantrum.

                    “When a person is too emotional, then he eventually has to fight with himself”
                  4. Anton S
                    Anton S 6 July 2020 13: 37 New
                    +2
                    193552 waiting for you, windbag
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                  6. vavilon
                    vavilon 6 July 2020 13: 48 New
                    -2
                    With this number, you will make a sign in your inbox
                    Unless of course you have it
                  7. Anton S
                    Anton S 6 July 2020 13: 52 New
                    +1
                    You said that by this number you will find me, so go ahead, I'm waiting.
                  8. vavilon
                    vavilon 6 July 2020 14: 44 New
                    -2
                    I already advised you to hang this number on my fence on my inbox.
                    It follows that you are a legionnaire like me James Bond
                  9. Anton S
                    Anton S 6 July 2020 14: 56 New
                    +1
                    What follows, uncle? What conclusions have you made in your head? Tell me. I’m a legionnaire, here is my matricule, people who know right away will understand, I do not include you among them.
                  10. vavilon
                    vavilon 6 July 2020 15: 20 New
                    -2
                    find other ears and introduce yourself as Rambo
                    And I feel sorry for the incompetent time with you,
                    I did not register on this site for this.
                    And by the way: -: for your enlightenment: matricule includes; series and ten-digit code,. and not the one that you took from the ceiling.
                  11. Anton S
                    Anton S 6 July 2020 15: 27 New
                    +1
                    Once again signed that you do not own a question
                  12. Legionista
                    Legionista 6 July 2020 19: 05 New
                    +1
                    And by the way: -: for your enlightenment: matricule includes; series and ten-digit code,. and not the one that you took from the ceiling.

                    lol lol lol yeah), a ten-digit code that is burned out on the forehead))) and then they give Kepi Blanc to cover it))))
                    Vavilon - you're a liar.
                    MLE 195583
                  13. vavilon
                    vavilon 7 July 2020 09: 22 New
                    -3
                    B POS 1 .... 0.535
                    and if you are still visiting your homeland (of course, if you still have one) stay away from the Soviet hardened military, otherwise you will tear paper like a monkey
                    And then we ran around Africa with machine guns drove the monkeys on the palms and now are you like "Commandos"
                    Today, not the legionnaire who was about 50 years ago — a bold, courageous, today's legionnaire (of course, not all the bulk) are serving the “kindergarten” for French papers and for money
                    that's all your heroism
                    I haven’t even read your comments, so I don’t comment on them.
                    Good luck
                  14. Legionista
                    Legionista 7 July 2020 10: 31 New
                    +2
                    stay away from the Soviet hardened military, otherwise they will tear you like a monkey paper
                    wassat
                    Got it! Sorry, I won’t))
                    B POS 1 .... 0.535

                    Blood type, if it’s yours, is of no interest to anyone))), of the MLE, the first 3 (three) digits are important, well, this is for the "Ansyans", not for you)))
                  15. Anton S
                    Anton S 7 July 2020 13: 58 New
                    +1
                    Quote: vavilon
                    B POS 1 .... 0.535
                    and if you are still visiting your homeland (of course, if you still have one) stay away from the Soviet hardened military, otherwise you will tear paper like a monkey
                    And then we ran around Africa with machine guns drove the monkeys on the palms and now are you like "Commandos"
                    Today, not the legionnaire who was about 50 years ago — a bold, courageous, today's legionnaire (of course, not all the bulk) are serving the “kindergarten” for French papers and for money
                    that's all your heroism
                    I haven’t even read your comments, so I don’t comment on them.
                    Good luck

                    It was you who allegedly gave your matricule? Again by, heard a ringing, but don’t know where it is.
        2. vavilon
          vavilon 6 July 2020 14: 44 New
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          By the way, did you jump with a parachute?
        3. Legionista
          Legionista 6 July 2020 19: 14 New
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          [quot. By the way, did you jump with a parachute? [/ quote]
          I think, much more than you for 2 years of service in the USSR Airborne Forces. During the service, Anton S hopped at least every 2 weeks. For every 2 weeks Transall flew in. But you, of course, do not know what it is. I assure you, this is not a balloon)))
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        5. vavilon
          vavilon 7 July 2020 09: 37 New
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          Seriously?))) And how much is the area in square meters of the parachute?
          What is a sling? And her length?
          The area of ​​the reserve parachute in square meters is how much? The distance between the paratroopers when throwing what? The release is made in what mode? What is the difference between combat, marching and training emissions?
          The speed of fall of a parachutist without a stabilizer meters per second? out of the stabilizer?
          And the fact that you jumped every week?)) Is that with the stove at home.
          Good luck
        6. Legionista
          Legionista 7 July 2020 10: 25 New
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          laughing laughing laughing in 2 REP it is all told. On PROMO when the orange foulard is worn. But since young legionaries do not understand the language well, all this information is not needed. Moreover, legionnaires do not lay parachutes either. This is a separate service. That is why you can jump every two weeks. The landing pad in the regiment, the airport is nearby.
          The speed of fall of a parachutist without a stabilizer meters per second? out of the stabilizer?
          lol
          Jump from 300m, with forced disclosure. tongue
        7. vavilon
          vavilon 7 July 2020 10: 31 New
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          Not a single correct answer.
          Everything is clear with you in the language of the master to grind everything.
        8. Legionista
          Legionista 7 July 2020 10: 36 New
          +1
          Not a single correct answer.
          Everything is clear with you in the language of the master grind everything
          wassat lol lol
        9. Anton S
          Anton S 7 July 2020 10: 58 New
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          Quote: vavilon
          Not a single correct answer.
          Everything is clear with you in the language of the master to grind everything.

          If you are so strong in theory, enlighten how in the legion they jump with a parachute.
    3. Anton S
      Anton S 7 July 2020 10: 31 New
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      Quote: vavilon
      Seriously?))) And how much is the area in square meters of the parachute?
      What is a sling? And her length?
      The area of ​​the reserve parachute in square meters is how much? The distance between the paratroopers when throwing what? The release is made in what mode? What is the difference between combat, marching and training emissions?
      The speed of fall of a parachutist without a stabilizer meters per second? out of the stabilizer?
      And the fact that you jumped every week?)) Is that with the stove at home.
      Good luck

      And that this information helped you a lot while jumping?
    4. Legionista
      Legionista 7 July 2020 10: 39 New
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      Anton S, I'm sorry I can no longer wink laughing laughing laughing , and then vavilon I will begin to take offsets on the VDP to accept))))
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  • vavilon
    vavilon 6 July 2020 11: 48 New
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    I specifically wrote about washing machines about sanatoriums and if a person didn’t see it, he won’t write to you and you won’t find a washing machine on the Internet
    Be a "soldier of fortune"
  • Legionista
    Legionista 6 July 2020 13: 04 New
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    Anyone who served there, having read our correspondence, will immediately understand who is who. Curtain.
    good
    Starii, all right you write. Everyone who did plis on the tenue de parade understood everything). Do not feed the troll hi
  • Anton S
    Anton S 6 July 2020 13: 06 New
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    He’s already clogging my arrows))
  • Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 7 July 2020 02: 34 New
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    Quote: vavilon
    if you want to learn something, ask something simpler, something that is not available to the average citizen on the Internet

    Didn’t you have to lie on the concrete against the tank with the sapper blade? wassat bully
  • Anton S
    Anton S 5 July 2020 21: 09 New
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    And where is the provocation in my questions? And if you really served in the legion, why draw something on the Internet about him. Palyit))
  • Legionista
    Legionista 5 July 2020 16: 35 New
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    Complètement d'accord. Such "servants" are usually called "mythomane"))).
    1. Anton S
      Anton S 5 July 2020 16: 47 New
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      C'est ça mon ami.En plus, avec toi, nous avons servi dans le même régiment
      1. Legionista
        Legionista 5 July 2020 16: 55 New
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        Encore un de la "bande de rousskoff" wink
      2. Legionista
        Legionista 5 July 2020 16: 58 New
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        It seems that the forum member "vavilon" went to the Russian-French dictionary wassat
      3. Anton S
        Anton S 5 July 2020 17: 05 New
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        In the course of the interlocutor, it is unlikely to leave a comment))). More majorum. Good luck to you.
      4. Legionista
        Legionista 5 July 2020 17: 15 New
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        Thank you good Mutually hi
  • Legionista
    Legionista 5 July 2020 16: 38 New
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    Started at Fort de Nogent, Fontenay-sous-Bois (if that tells you anything) 1999

    They begin, if they begin for real, then with 4 RE. I don’t take Aubagne and 1 RE into account, this is Maison MÈRE.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 7 July 2020 02: 40 New
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      Quote: Legionista
      Started at Fort de Nogent, Fontenay-sous-Bois (if that tells you anything) 1999

      They begin, if they begin for real, then with 4 RE. I don’t take Aubagne and 1 RE into account, this is Maison MÈRE.

      Asked this Ramba not or what? what Waiting for an answer request if it was not in the legion sad
  • Anton S
    Anton S 7 July 2020 10: 48 New
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    Quote: Legionista
    Anton S, I'm sorry I can no longer wink laughing laughing laughing , and then vavilon I will begin to take offsets on the VDP to accept))))

    Yes, he always leads away from the main topic somewhere. I thought: maybe he served in the Roman legions, they had a ten-digit matricule, probably? He says that he’s aged, maybe he found Caesar, although then, like Airborne would not have been))
    1. Legionista
      Legionista 7 July 2020 10: 59 New
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      I was thinking: maybe he served in the Roman legions, they had a ten-digit matricule there, probably?
      laughing
      I think he saw someone’s badge with whom they went on tournaments. There really are 10 digits, and 5 extreme are included in the MLE. And he doesn’t write the numbers completely, so as not to substitute the real “Ansyan”. For this to him, respect)
  • Anton S
    Anton S 7 July 2020 11: 01 New
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    Quote: Legionista
    I was thinking: maybe he served in the Roman legions, they had a ten-digit matricule there, probably?
    laughing
    I think he saw someone’s badge with whom they went on tournaments. There really are 10 digits, and 5 extreme are included in the MLE. And he doesn’t write the numbers completely, so as not to substitute the real “Ansyan”. For this to him, respect)

    In any case, we have already decided on his service in the legion))
    1. Legionista
      Legionista 7 July 2020 12: 09 New
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      In any case, we have already decided on his service in the legion))

      Moreover, right away). 2 questions - quelle régiment?; Quelle matricule? And the "paratrooper" swam laughing
  • Anton S
    Anton S 7 July 2020 12: 15 New
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    Quote: Legionista
    In any case, we have already decided on his service in the legion))

    Moreover, right away). 2 questions - quelle régiment?; Quelle matricule? And the "paratrooper" swam laughing

    Plus, those who served usually do not say “French Legion”, they usually say either the Foreign Legion or simply the Legion.
  • Anton S
    Anton S 7 July 2020 14: 00 New
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    Quote: Legionista
    stay away from the Soviet hardened military, otherwise they will tear you like a monkey paper
    wassat
    Got it! Sorry, I won’t))
    B POS 1 .... 0.535

    Blood type, if it’s yours, is of no interest to anyone))), of the MLE, the first 3 (three) digits are important, well, this is for the "Ansyans", not for you)))

    Dude is a real clown))