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Forbes recalls an American warship built in the USSR

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This ship was built in the USSR and even went under the Soviet flag for some time. Today it is included in the US Navy.


Forbes writes about the unusual fate of this warship.

It is called "Corporal Roy Wheat" and is subordinate to the US Naval Shipping Command. This service transports and supplies United States military units outside the country.

And although almost all the ships of the US Navy are built in the United States, among them there are also those created at foreign shipyards. But only one American warship is of Soviet origin - "Corporal Roy Wheat."

Once it was flying the flag of the USSR and was called “Vladimir Vaslyaev” and belonged to the Black Sea Shipping Company, the world's largest civil shipping company. It was created at the Black Sea Shipbuilding Plant in Nikolaev, which is now located in Ukraine. The vessel belonged to the “Atlantic” type, that is, it was able to cover long distances in stormy ocean waters.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, when the country was plundered and sold, the Americans purchased Vladimir Vaslyaev at a reasonable price and included it in the US Navy. So the Soviet civilian vessel, having undergone reconstruction, became an American warship.

It was renamed in honor of Corporal Roy Whit, who heroically sacrificed his life during the Vietnam War. The fighter covered his body with a detonated mine to save his comrades.

Today, Corporal Roy Whit, along with the other 17 heavy transport vessels in the US Navy's Shipping Command, is engaged in the transfer of US troops and cargo across the globe.
Photos used:
U.S. Transport Command Official Twitter
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  1. Woodman
    Woodman 30 June 2020 09: 09
    55
    After the collapse of the Soviet Union, when the country was plundered and sold, the Americans at a reasonable price
    That only in those years was not sold at a "fair price" ... It is sad to remember ... Very sad.
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 30 June 2020 09: 12
      41
      Another monument to the Soviet Union, which could build an ocean-going fleet, and not just "make galoshes" as the president claims.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 30 June 2020 09: 19
        -7
        Just admit it - do you have a portrait of the president instead of an icon? You try to mention it in every line. Could not cite a quote where Putin "claims" that the USSR could "make only galoshes" and nothing but galoshes?
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 30 June 2020 09: 22
          21
          Quote: Lesovik
          Could not cite a quote where Putin "claims" that the USSR could "make only galoshes" and nothing but galoshes?

          Please
          1. Woodman
            Woodman 30 June 2020 09: 24
            -21 qualifying.
            Quote: Malyuta
            Please

            You really try in the form of a text so that you can see how it really is there. I have problems playing video.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 30 June 2020 09: 31
              11
              I have problems playing video.

              The drain is counted.
              1. Woodman
                Woodman 30 June 2020 09: 33
                -14 qualifying.
                Quote: Pereira
                The drain is counted.

                So if it's a drain, can you give me a quote? For clarity? Or just to get nasty?
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 30 June 2020 09: 36
                  +2
                  What does rudeness have to do with it? Classic excuse. I appreciated.
                  1. Woodman
                    Woodman 30 June 2020 09: 40
                    -15 qualifying.
                    Quote: Pereira
                    Classic excuse. I appreciated.

                    A quote, sir, a quote ... The one about "galoshes".
                    1. Pereira
                      Pereira 30 June 2020 09: 42
                      13
                      Correct the video playback and you will be happy. I'm not a sign language interpreter.
                      1. Woodman
                        Woodman 30 June 2020 09: 43
                        -8
                        Quote: Pereira
                        Correct the video playback and you will be happy. I'm not a sign language interpreter.

                        Quote: Pereira
                        The drain is counted.

                        But you can’t say better ... I also appreciated.
                      2. Vladimir16
                        Vladimir16 30 June 2020 10: 18
                        +5
                        Quote: Malyuta
                        Only "to make galoshes", as the president says.

                        Malyuta is lying like CNN. Apparently the teachers are the same.

                        Putin says the economy produced goods that no one in the world needed.
                        And we are not talking about weapons, neither about space exploration, nor about shipbuilding.

                        It's about the so-called consumer goods, which was of indecent quality.
                        Can you recall how they chased jeans?
                        As the lunatics stood in line at the first McDonald's.

                        Maybe the baby lives on Muscovite? or on the cossack? Or carry your seat on a foreign car.



                        So, baby, you're lying corny. And your words are not confirmed by Putin's quote.
                      3. KERMET
                        KERMET 30 June 2020 11: 15
                        14
                        Can you remind me, when my mother brought my first jeans home (7 years old) (Montana), I said that I won’t wear it (I was hardly forced to put them on a trip to my relatives once)
                        At McDonald's, too, I didn’t stand in line (I stood in line at the children's cafe that was opened in our city, which was built by brotherly Bulgarians for us (there was delicious ice cream there)
                      4. KERMET
                        KERMET 30 June 2020 11: 17
                        +7
                        And Putin meant exactly "EVERYTHING that we produced" (exact quote from the text)
                      5. KJIETyc
                        KJIETyc 30 June 2020 12: 31
                        0
                        They took 2 words out of context, tied them in their head and gave out nonsense. Bravo!
                      6. KERMET
                        KERMET 30 June 2020 14: 06
                        -3
                        These two words (see especially for you) Putin repeated emphasizing several times
                  2. poquello
                    poquello 30 June 2020 13: 30
                    -1
                    Quote: KERMET
                    when my mother brought my first jeans home (Montana) at the age of 7, I said that I wouldn’t wear it (I was barely forced to put them on a trip to my relatives once)
                    In McDonald's, too, did not stand in line (stood in line at the children's cafe that was opened in our city, which was built by brotherly Bulgarians

                    (I generally didn’t care for age, but) at 7 I had a Polish denim suit, I don’t remember the joy of being sewn by brotherly Poles)))
                  3. Doliva63
                    Doliva63 30 June 2020 18: 55
                    +2
                    Quote: poquello
                    Quote: KERMET
                    when my mother brought my first jeans home (Montana) at the age of 7, I said that I wouldn’t wear it (I was barely forced to put them on a trip to my relatives once)
                    In McDonald's, too, did not stand in line (stood in line at the children's cafe that was opened in our city, which was built by brotherly Bulgarians

                    (I generally didn’t care for age, but) at 7 I had a Polish denim suit, I don’t remember the joy of being sewn by brotherly Poles)))

                    At 6 years old they wanted to put jeans on me with the Texas inscription (we later called them Texas))), I rested until I found a pocket for a knife - that was all. laughing
                    It turned out that parents had to buy a belt with a set of throwing knives instead of a belt laughing GDR / GSVG, 60s.
              2. Malyuta
                Malyuta 30 June 2020 14: 05
                -5
                Quote: Vladimir16
                Malyuta is lying like CNN.

                And why are you lying like a nightingale litter, acting as a lawyer for the galosh devil that I'm lying?
                Your sonzeliky clearly said everything about the worthlessness of Soviet industry, and then he came and finished off Soviet industry, destroying 78 thousand plants and factories.
              3. poquello
                poquello 30 June 2020 14: 54
                +5
                Quote: Malyuta
                Your sonzeliky clearly said everything about the worthlessness of Soviet industry, and then he came and finished off Soviet industry, destroying 78 thousand plants and factories.

                "I will say one thing", when they gave factories, factories and other offices a free hand, few people found their way, most were in a stupor and did not know how to work further, but it was a little earlier
              4. Vadim237
                Vadim237 30 June 2020 15: 24
                -1
                78000 factories and factories and 600000 enterprises of factories of factories and offices from small to huge continue to operate in all areas of industry and agricultural industry according to public statistics. And by the way, where does the number of 78000 closed factories come from - more like a clean visa like garbage about 70000 disappeared villages and villages since 2000 - from your own garbage collectors.
              5. Malyuta
                Malyuta 30 June 2020 17: 19
                +3
                Quote: Vadim237
                and continues to operate 600000 enterprises of factories of factories and offices from small to huge in all areas of industry and agricultural industry according to public statistics.

                Did you also calculate IPshnikov, along with car washes and private car services? And I also want to note that your statistics are bullshit on a stick, like all your gang of bullshit anti-Soviet advisers! yes
            2. Gray-haired
              Gray-haired 1 July 2020 14: 06
              +1
              Is there a splatter on the empty skull? The seafarers scorch just as soon as they open the splatter.
          2. Nemchinov Vl
            Nemchinov Vl 30 June 2020 16: 36
            +8
            Quote: Vladimir16
            ... the economy produced goods that no one in the world needed ...
            Well, if you look at the root (as they used to say - Rods Kozma), it will become much more it’s obvious that it’s not that - "Not needed !", but that under any pretext (quality, or pricing (!) ...), - just do not miss (!) to foreign marketsin fair and equal competition (!).. This competition will only be called - "honest !!"but when opposed, for example "Concorde" or "TU-144", already in advance, underestimate the bar to the first and overstated to the second (!!!).
            Quote: KERMET
            And Putin meant exactly "EVERYTHING that we produced" (exact quote from the text)
            Putin also said that the country should learn to trade not in raw materials, but in particular manufactured goods (!), and develop high-tech manufacturing industries (!).... But in fact, instead (!), the pace of shipbuilding and aircraft construction has fallen repeatedly, due to a violation of cooperative ties (and breaks in production chains in these areas) created during the USSR (!). All that remains is the raw material economy (oil and gas sales) !!...?! "To say is not to marry"or, if you like, closer to the bible, - "know the tree by its fruit". (!)... Because of "toys of our leaders, be it: Putin, Lukashenko, or Zelensky" , - absolutely no difference (!!!)we all suffer (!!!). From unemployment (each in their own country) generated by the truncated markets for the fruits of joint high-tech cooperation (!), created during the USSR, for mutual support throughout the Empire, and not any of its parts separately (!!).. EXAMPLE: Playing in "compulsion to the peace of the former twin"
            , Russia left, without a colossal and sought-after market (Russian Navy), Nikolaev enterprise, - "Zarya-Mashproekt" (!).... Is it healthy or not ?!... At the same time, shipbuilding programs for the Russian Navy, constantly "skid" (!). just imagine that for 8-9 years, if such a connection is not broken, then the same Kaliningrad "Yantar"could easily "give out to the mountain", about 5-6 (or even 7 !!) frigates pr \ 11356 P / M, for filling the TOF (3-4 units) and a couple for the SF or BF ?! ... Poorly (!) ...?!. And in parallel, by providing at least 4 pairs of marching turbines D-O90, and 2 pairs of afterburners DT-59 (!!), could (that is, it would make real sense !!), modernization following the example of "Marshal Shaposhnikov", at least FOUR BOD 1155, with a term of extension of their service for 15 years (average !!!)...?! After all, knowing that - there is nothing to change their power plants, they are in no hurry to put on modernization. Is it healthy or not ?!.
          3. SevaNikolaev
            SevaNikolaev 1 July 2020 22: 01
            0
            Russia left, without a colossal and demanded sales market (Russian Navy), the Nikolaev enterprise - "Zarya-Mashproekt"

            Yes, not Russia left, but Ukraine refused to supply manufactured and paid materiel. And if we talk about modernization and construction from scratch, then we need to talk about GTZA, and not about individual GTD.
        2. strelokmira
          strelokmira 30 June 2020 16: 47
          +2
          Putin says the economy produced goods that no one in the world needed.

          After the collapse of the Soviet Union, when the country was plundered and sold, the Americans purchased Vladimir Vaslyaev at a reasonable price and included it in the US Navy. So the Soviet civilian vessel, having undergone reconstruction, became an American warship.

          Nobody needs lol
        3. Overlock
          Overlock 1 July 2020 00: 17
          +9
          Quote: Vladimir16
          Malyuta is lying like CNN.

          Quote: Vladimir16
          Putin says the economy produced goods that no one in the world needed.


          well no. You are lying! What was not necessary? !!!!
          If they did not cope with the codecs, then they literally say (from the 28th second): what we (the USSR) produced - no one needs. Nobody bought our galoshes, except the Africans .... "
          Not bad "galoshes" for Africans laughing

          Yes, like 80 percent of the gold mined at the mine in Mali was paid, the Soviet Union received repayment of loans. Gold!
          Since Putin mentioned Africa, let’s start with Africa. Egypt, Nile, Aswan Dam. The idea of ​​its construction has been “ventilated” since the 1th (!) Century. In an open competition, Soviet engineers defeated firms in England, France, Sweden, and Holland. And they didn’t just win - they defeated them, showing the customer a model of the dam tested near Zaporozhye on a scale of 50:2, really demonstrating that the Soviet version would be the most reliable and cheapest. And hydroturbines must be installed in the dam - and again Soviet turbines are recognized as the best in the world, twelve turbines were ordered by the Leningrad Electromechanical Plant, twelve generators with a total capacity of 100 million XNUMX thousand kilowatts - the Leningrad Electrosila.
          And the metallurgical plant in Bhilai, India, at 2,5 million tons of steel per year - is this also a “galosh”? The Americans and the British could not make such a “galosh”, but the Soviet specialists could. And the most powerful press in the world, which France needed and no one in the world took to make it, was made in the USSR, at the Voronezh "Tyazhmehpress".
          There are many examples! You and your protege are lying. It should be a shame- ohayaiente the history of their country.
        4. val43
          val43 1 July 2020 09: 20
          -6
          Dear, this is not about dams / presses, but about consumer goods. If anything, I am a sample of 1961 and I remember perfectly that nightmare, which was called trousers, jacket-shoes. It is clear that American-English-French was unattainable for me, but even the Bulgarian-Romanian-Hungarian compared to the Soviet one - heaven and earth!
      2. Johann Klassen
        Johann Klassen 3 July 2020 19: 59
        0
        And why the hell, by the leg of your mother, you flooded head over heels at McDonald's?
        I do not know how God was chosen, in front of jeans and "McDonald's" and "rear-wheel drive", walked on his hind legs.
        You read such "outpourings of the soul" of some "inferior Soviet citizens", "new Russians", and laughter breaks through the tears.
        Interestingly, what services were you ready to provide for the "mobile phone"?
        "Poor", there was nothing to eat, nothing to wear and nothing to wear.
        So how did you live?
        And he drove the car "Moskvich-2140" with pleasure, and everything fresh and excellent quality from the gardens, and at work he worked with pleasure, because he loved his work, and respected himself and others.
        I can imagine how you would meet in 1941 the "representatives of the civilized European Reich."
      3. poquello
        poquello 4 July 2020 00: 49
        0
        Quote: Johann Klassen
        And why the hell, by the leg of your mother, you flooded head over heels at McDonald's?
        I do not know how God was chosen, in front of jeans and "McDonald's" and "rear-wheel drive", walked on his hind legs.
        You read such "outpourings of the soul" of some "inferior Soviet citizens", "new Russians", and laughter breaks through the tears.

        oh, those "inferior Soviet citizens" killed you along the way
  • nPuBaTuP
    nPuBaTuP 30 June 2020 09: 47
    -1
    Yes, they can’t bring .... not Malyuta, nor Pereira .....
  • tatra
    tatra 30 June 2020 10: 00
    +2
    The ideology of the enemies of the communists after their seizure of the USSR, including the "recovered" members of the CPSU during the anti-Soviet Perestroika, is a slander against the Bolshevik-Communists, and a cowardly blame on those guilt and responsibility for what the external and internal enemies of the Bolshevik-Communists did in the Soviet and post-Soviet period ... And in this short video "Putin and galoshes" all this ideology of theirs - and slander that the USSR produced only galoshes so that Africans could walk in them on the hot sand, and cowardly dumping on the USSR responsibility for the "one-sided" economy created by Putin and the Russian enemies of the communists ... And Putin, probably, has sclerosis, and in 2019 he again repeated this nonsense about galoshes, calling it "the most striking example."
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    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 June 2020 15: 26
      -5
      What is this "one-sided economy"?
      1. DIM (a)
        DIM (a) 1 July 2020 00: 08
        0
        Yeah ... it would be great if on the resource there would be at least one economist who knew the economics of at least the country ... it would be better if in connection with the world economy ... but it’s easier to flop other people's cliches
  • Nick
    Nick 30 June 2020 10: 05
    +8
    Quote: Lesovik
    Quote: Malyuta
    Please

    You really try in the form of a text so that you can see how it really is there. I have problems playing video.

    The President said that of the goods that we produced during the USSR, apart from galoshes, we could sell little on foreign markets. A figurative expression that does not need to be taken literally. The fact that the USSR did not produce anything other than galoshes of GDP did not say, this is the speculation of the author of the post. In the sense of Malyuta.
    1. Woodman
      Woodman 30 June 2020 10: 15
      +7
      Agree that between "produced only galoshes" and "could only sell galoshes" the difference is very significant. But "in the battle for minds" and for a virtual rating, someone benefits from the myth of "only made galoshes" ...
      PS Thank you for daring to quote. But I was expecting this act from those who argued about "doing only galoshes."
      1. Nick
        Nick 30 June 2020 10: 28
        +4
        Quote: Lesovik
        Agree that between "produced only galoshes" and "could only sell galoshes" the difference is very significant. But "in the battle for minds" and for a virtual rating, someone benefits from the myth of "only made galoshes" ...
        PS Thank you for daring to quote. But I was expecting this act from those who argued about "doing only galoshes."

        From those who claimed you will not achieve recognition. Their task is not to voice the truth, but propaganda of various kinds of fakes, anti-Russian, anti-Putin sense.
      2. KERMET
        KERMET 30 June 2020 11: 23
        +2
        For the deaf and who have problems with the video
        His literal words:
        All that we produced was nobody needed!
        Galoshes hereinafter referred to as the collective expression of all goods produced in the USSR
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 1 July 2020 00: 23
          +3
          Quote: KERMET
          All that we produced was nobody needed!

          Of course you don’t need to .. they now remember!
          Assuan Dam!
          Mining and Processing Plant in Mfuati (Republic of the Congo)
          Diamu Cement Plant and Kalana Gold Mine (Mali)
          Ajaokut Steel Works (Nigeria)
          HPP "Kapanda" on the Kwanza River (Angola)
          Putin’s sclerosis, he’s got everything Soviet and proves it to everyone.
          1. val43
            val43 1 July 2020 09: 39
            0
            Money for fish again? Yes, no one argues about press-hydroelectric power stations and other turbogenerators! But how did this help me, a 16-year-old boy, forced to go on a date in a baggy suit of sloppy color and shoes, after an hour of walking in which his legs were twisted?
          2. Interlocutor
            Interlocutor 1 July 2020 23: 15
            0
            he enslaved everything Soviet and proves it to everyone.

            In what year did he bury them?
      3. Roman123567
        Roman123567 30 June 2020 11: 46
        +5
        Agree that between "produced only galoshes" and "could only sell galoshes" the difference is very significant. But "in the battle for minds" and for a virtual rating, someone benefits from the myth of "only made galoshes" ...

        Like small children .. 20 posts parse an expression spell .. as if it changes something ..
        Well, sort it out then at the same time about "I will not raise the retirement age", "I will not change the Constitution" ..
        Maybe even then you will understand that when a person is a lie, then any of his words should and will be perceived accordingly ..
        So do not look for any meaning in the galoshes, Malyuta correctly said everything about this ..
    2. Malyuta
      Malyuta 30 June 2020 10: 28
      0
      Quote: Nick
      The fact that the USSR did not produce anything other than galoshes of GDP did not say, this is the speculation of the author of the post. In the sense of Malyuta.

      Have you watched the video well? Why are you misleading? A colleague asked for a quote, I posted a video in which pvv says what he says, i.e. shifts the blame for the "one-sided" (raw material) economy of the Russian Federation onto the USSR.
      And I only said that besides his "galoshes" the USSR produced a completely modern ocean-going fleet !!!
      Is this clear? Or will you again misinterpret?
      1. Ham
        Ham 30 June 2020 10: 35
        0
        you misinterpret and pull it out of context! he was talking there not about the "raw materials economy" but about the bias towards heavy industry! to the detriment of light and processing!
        that's why "no one bought galoshes except for Africa"!
        because the nuclear reactors were excellent, but there was a problem with consumer goods!
        I congratulate you - a citizen of a lie!
      2. Nick
        Nick 30 June 2020 10: 54
        +5
        Quote: Malyuta
        Quote: Nick
        The fact that the USSR did not produce anything other than galoshes of GDP did not say, this is the speculation of the author of the post. In the sense of Malyuta.

        Have you watched the video well? Why are you misleading? A colleague asked for a quote, I posted a video in which pvv says what he says, i.e. shifts the blame for the "one-sided" (raw material) economy of the Russian Federation onto the USSR.
        And I only said that besides his "galoshes" the USSR produced a completely modern ocean-going fleet !!!
        Is this clear? Or will you again misinterpret?

        Do not engage in verbiage. Everything is perfectly clear in the video what Putin said. And the fact that in the USSR there were imbalances in the economy, you can read an article by the Soviet economist V. Selyunin in the newspaper "Socialist Industry" from 05.01. 1988, which was titled "Growth rates on the consumption scales".
        What can I say, in terms of world market prices, in 1988, 62-63% of Soviet mechanical engineering was military equipment, 32% were machine tools and equipment, and only 5-6% were consumer goods. The metal went to tank armor, armored personnel carriers and guns, and not to refrigerators and cars.
        So, Putin told the truth about the one-sided Soviet economy.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 30 June 2020 11: 10
          -6
          Quote: Nick
          not on refrigerators and cars.

          Did you live under the USSR without a refrigerator and starve? Apparently, you also did not have a TV and a photo camera ..
          And now let's turn to official statistics, and not to article 88, when the USSR was spread around with similar articles:
          Foreign trade of the USSR
          The national economy of the USSR for 70 years
          Anniversary Statistical Yearbook
          http://istmat.info/node/9321

          This is about Putin's "galoshes", read enjoy In 1989, the Soviet Union trades with 145 countries of the world, while in 1950 - with 45 countries.
          1. Nick
            Nick 30 June 2020 11: 20
            +5
            Quote: Malyuta
            Did you live under the USSR without a refrigerator and starve?

            The refrigerator appeared in 1970. Parents bought with it. It was almost impossible to buy them in free sale. And I did not starve. I carried out my food program in my grandmother’s garden, where a 10-hectare potato fed the families of her children and grandchildren. Harvesting hay for her sheep, which she kept 13-15 heads each, cleaned the chicken coop where she kept one and a half dozen hens and geese. And besides this he managed and studies and works at the factory.
            1. mmaxx
              mmaxx 30 June 2020 14: 46
              +5
              How these nostalgic people lifted up! Still would remember that good. And then, after all, they recall the Soviet consumer goods. Putin is to blame for poking his face. Chasing import and rejoiced. Just to get at least something foreign. wink And there were people who had nothing. There were. Because there was nothing in the stores.
            2. Doliva63
              Doliva63 30 June 2020 19: 15
              +4
              Quote: mmaxx
              How these nostalgic people lifted up! Still would remember that good. And then, after all, they recall the Soviet consumer goods. Putin is to blame for poking his face. Chasing import and rejoiced. Just to get at least something foreign. wink And there were people who had nothing. There were. Because there was nothing in the stores.

              I remember the watch appeared with the Quality Mark - shirporeb? So the father-in-law still uses it. Do you know when this sign appeared? In the 60s, we bought Jarna's refrigerator. He worked until the end of the 90s, when there was simply no place to stick him. Normal consumer goods were in the USSR. Here's what was done after the 2nd half of the 70s, it already mostly "sucks". But there already only horns remained from the social economy. And they never chased overseas. Is it a little bit in the 80s, when everywhere already "she" came - but this was not the Soviet Union at all, but where the hunchback had brought it. And it was the humpback who raised both Yeltsin and his successor, in the end. And in the shops it was normal: when it was really tight - around olives and olives, and gorgeous canned fish, which you cannot find now, and everything for a penny. Eh, now to get to that store! laughing
            3. Interlocutor
              Interlocutor 1 July 2020 23: 19
              0
              In the 60s they bought a refrigerator Järna. He worked until the end of the 90s, when he simply had no where to stick.

              You see, refrigerators are so arranged that they practically do not break.
              They are thrown out because the elastic is torn on the door and clambers, and also because you want a new one. You come to the store, and there is a beautiful new one. Which will also work for 30 years. And they make them with us.
            4. Doliva63
              Doliva63 2 July 2020 17: 18
              0
              Quote: Interlocutor
              In the 60s they bought a refrigerator Järna. He worked until the end of the 90s, when he simply had no where to stick.

              You see, refrigerators are so arranged that they practically do not break.
              They are thrown out because the elastic is torn on the door and clambers, and also because you want a new one. You come to the store, and there is a beautiful new one. Which will also work for 30 years. And they make them with us.

              I do not argue for refrigerators, good. But there was also a telly Record-64 - for a long time there were colored ones, but this one worked laughing And then, I remembered again: I had a mini-tv in my army b / w Youth, the beginning of the 80s, like, he and I parachuted (in a cargo container), so still stands with my mother-in-law in the country, just in case. And yes, they did all this with us. laughing drinks
            5. Interlocutor
              Interlocutor 2 July 2020 17: 20
              0
              But there was also a telly Record-64 - they were colored for a long time, but this one all worked laughing


              I agree. But .... what to look back drinks drink a cup and run forward ... To flat-screen TVs
            6. Doliva63
              Doliva63 2 July 2020 17: 33
              0
              Quote: Interlocutor
              But there was also a telly Record-64 - they were colored for a long time, but this one all worked laughing


              I agree. But .... what to look back drinks drink a cup and run forward ... To flat-screen TVs

              No, why? They will come running to us laughing If we move in the right direction drinks
            7. Interlocutor
              Interlocutor 2 July 2020 17: 51
              0
              No, why? They will come running to us laughing If we move in the right direction drinks

              Skiers collect about 15 years in the suburbs in Dorokhovo. They have already come to offer us.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 30 June 2020 15: 33
    +1
    And only 145 of these 40 countries paid in foreign currency - the rest lived on barter, which was not equivalent to what the USSR exported to them, and also for factual loyalty for free. As an example, over the entire period of its existence, the USSR sold 7 civilian aircraft for currency - for which the remaining several hundred were sold unknown.
  • val43
    val43 1 July 2020 10: 02
    +2
    You need to be reminded what those refrigerators and televisions were and how you literally had to hunt for them? So, I lived in the village. Street courtyards at 70. Our TV appeared at one of the first when I was 12 years old, i.e. in 1973! year. It broke 2-3 times a year (now the Japanese are hammering without a single break for 10 years already). The Dnieper refrigerator even later. My dimensions (height 178, I can’t tell you on the shoulders, but I won’t suffocate), with a freezer in which you can still put a chicken in it, a goose - not a shred. But what about the fact that everything was done at times better for export than for domestic consumption you probably shouldn’t tell?
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 30 June 2020 11: 49
    -4
    Do not engage in verbiage. Everything is perfectly clear. in the video what Putin said

    I also think that everything is clear there ..
    There is no point in pulling letters, if it is already clear that Stalin, according to Putin, is bad .. and the USSR did not do anything necessary / way .. This is the whole point ..
  • Serg65
    Serg65 30 June 2020 11: 53
    -1
    Quote: Malyuta
    Have you watched the video well?

    Of course good! Or will you, an associate of Khodorkovsky and Gozman, prove that blacks in Africa will wear Soviet steamers on their feet? Well, so as not to burn feet on the sand?
    1. tatra
      tatra 30 June 2020 12: 48
      -6
      Why do the enemies of the communists hate each other, betray each other, and constantly throw each other up to the communists and their supporters? And Putin, and Gozman, and Khodorkovsey YOURS, all of them, like you all, hate the USSR, all of them, like all other Russian enemies of the communists, "and now it is better than in the USSR", because you all got a lot of things at the expense of someone else's labor, at the expense of Russia and its people.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 30 June 2020 13: 12
        +6
        Quote: tatra
        Both Gozman and Khodorkovsky ALL YOUR

        laughing Cool Mrs. Irene! If they are OUR, then why do they pay you the money ???
        Quote: tatra
        betray each other, and constantly throw each other to the Communists and their supporters?

        belay But how not to throw it? Survived for all sorts of stupidity being like a child on a chupa chups .... laughing Here you have the Grudinins and the Plotoshkins throwing you to sculpt idols from them and pray after them !!! bully
        Quote: tatra
        because you all HAVE a lot of things

        Yes niiii, sho you, madam! You raped ... and the Union raped, and the Russian Federation is now in great desire to fuck wink
        1. tatra
          tatra 30 June 2020 13: 21
          -5
          Ha, the enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR are a unique phenomenon, here is how to bear responsibility for what they did themselves in the Soviet and post-Soviet periods, for their seizure and dismemberment of the USSR, to protect each other out of convictions, and not for profit or for money - they are no one, but how to instill anger and hatred, boast to the supporters of the USSR, how they "and now it is better than in the USSR" under their anti-Soviet rule, to prove that they will never give up the republics of the USSR they captured peacefully to anyone - so they are ... Today Putin will again deliver a "fiery speech", and here it will start again - Putin's opponents will be AGAINST Putin, and Putin's propagandists will be angry AGAINST those who are against Putin.
        2. Serg65
          Serg65 30 June 2020 13: 30
          +4
          Quote: tatra
          , the enemies of the communists in the territory of the USSR is a unique phenomenon, here's how to bear responsibility for what they themselves did in the Soviet and post-Soviet periods, for the capture and dismemberment of the USSR

          Hmm ... lady, well, they would have said that the enemies of the Communists were the Communists themselves ... so many extra words for the sake of just one thought ... it’s not communist !!!
        3. tatra
          tatra 30 June 2020 13: 39
          -4
          Ha, yes, and Putin, for whom his propagandists are crucified here, was also a "loyal communist" when it was profitable. So who are you protecting here? The communist Putin, or the enemy of the communists and the USSR Putin?
        4. Serg65
          Serg65 30 June 2020 13: 52
          +5
          I, my soul, protect the homeland from people like you!
          In the last century, one poet wrote ..
          I'm tired of the twentieth century
          From his bloodied rivers
          And I don’t need human rights
          I’m no longer human ...
        5. snake
          snake 30 June 2020 14: 09
          -6
          Quote: Serg65
          I, my soul, protect the homeland from people like you!

          Defend your homeland from a female friend of the Communists on the Internet? Yes, here we have a protector Hero, guys!
        6. Malyuta
          Malyuta 30 June 2020 14: 17
          -4
          Quote: serpent
          Defend your homeland from a female friend of the Communists on the Internet? Yes, here we have a protector Hero, guys!

          laughing The usual on duty evil troll guard, so-so not outstanding laughing
        7. Serg65
          Serg65 30 June 2020 14: 27
          +3
          Quote: Malyuta
          not so outstanding

          Yes, I do not consider myself outstanding wink ... so, just an imp demon on duty! wink
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    2. Serg65
      Serg65 30 June 2020 14: 20
      +3
      Quote: serpent
      from a woman friend

      Serezha, yes you have every second woman and every first daughter of an officer !!!
      Quote: serpent
      Yes, we have a protector hero here.

      Calmly namesake, don't boil it, it doesn't hurt wink
      what Hmmm ... Serena, and aren't you the Tatra pretending to be?
    3. snake
      snake 30 June 2020 14: 39
      +2
      Quote: Serg65
      yes you

      Who has "you"? I'm alone here as a finger.
      Quote: Serg65
      Serena, and aren’t you the Tatra pretending to be

      No. This is Golovan pretending to be Yasna, and as I was a Serpent, so ̶C̶e̶r̶p̶e̶n̶t̶o̶m̶ ̶i̶ ̶p̶o̶m̶r̶u̶ so far I am getting "one" account.
    4. Serg65
      Serg65 30 June 2020 14: 57
      +2
      Quote: serpent
      Who has "you"?

      laughing Well, yes, yes .. and the team of communist labor. comrade Hapon as a part of Malyuta, Tatra, Sov.soyuz ....... type passed by and you do not know them and the first time you see request
      Right now, the rest of the members will catch up and shout .. WE ARE A TEAM! laughing
      Quote: serpent
      This Golovan pretends to be Clear

      what Come on? Golovan seems to have a different style ... and he certainly wouldn’t run past you laughing
    5. snake
      snake 30 June 2020 15: 06
      0
      Quote: Serg65
      .type passed by and you do not know them and the first time you see

      It happens that we disagree - not without it. But as in the Order, for example, I am not a member and I have no contacts / agreements.
      Quote: Serg65
      Come on? Golovan seems to have a different style ... and he certainly wouldn’t run past you

      The same style: "get to the bottom of the interlocutor" and "please provide proofs." Yes, and he ran past me ... True, he immediately burned himself for this. Now the poor fellow is forced to act out the role. So that no one would guess ... And it grows in rank that your bamboo is by leaps and bounds. What to do - when there is no personal life, you have to sublimate ...
    6. Serg65
      Serg65 1 July 2020 10: 54
      +4
      Quote: serpent
      But as in the Order, for example, I am not a member and I have no contacts / agreements.

      laughing Oh oh There are different orders right now! wink
      In addition, from the order that you are hinting at, many, having taken care of their financial situation, entered the prominent opposition of VO laughing ..Mordvin for example, or here's Topping 63 .... hi hello changeling wink ..yes and you, my friend, I suspect that the name is not at all Sergey ... it seems to me that your mother Sasha’s calling wink
    7. snake
      snake 1 July 2020 16: 42
      -4
      Quote: Serg65
      Yes, and you, my friend, I suspect that the name is not at all Sergey ... it seems to me that your mother Sasha is calling

      First: You are not my friend; Secondly: this is your "mother", and mine is your mother; Third: I'm not Logal, I didn't guess.
    8. Serg65
      Serg65 2 July 2020 08: 18
      +3
      Quote: serpent
      I did not Logal, I did not guess.

      laughing laughing good Stirlitz has never been so close to failure !!!!
      Sasha, I have never mentioned the nickname "Logal" !!! wink
    9. Mouse
      Mouse 2 July 2020 09: 03
      +3
      You knew! You knew! wink
    10. Serg65
      Serg65 2 July 2020 09: 54
      +3
      bully Big eye never sleeps !!!!!
    11. Mouse
      Mouse 2 July 2020 10: 08
      +3
      different mind and wit ... mind and wit ... wink
  • snake
    snake 2 July 2020 11: 05
    -3
    Quote: Serg65
    Stirlitz has never been so close to failure !!!!
    Sasha, I have never mentioned the nickname "Logal" !!!

    Oh my God! It is clear to the last fool that if we are talking about the Order, then we are talking about "Sasha" - this is 99% about Logal. The genius of private investigation ...
  • Serg65
    Serg65 2 July 2020 11: 12
    +3
    Quote: serpent
    Yes god you are!

    Sasha, it's too late to drink Borjomi ..... tongue
  • snake
    snake 2 July 2020 11: 19
    -2
    Kindergarten...
  • Clear
    Clear 2 July 2020 13: 55
    +2
    Indeed, Sergey, why is Maria so shamelessly coming to the fore?
    Quote: Masha
    then Masha is Golovan ....
    . Just now you appointed me as the eldest (beloved) wife
    Quote: serpent
    This Golovan pretends to be Clear
    . Insidious You are a liar, I am disappointed in you.
    PS
    One blonde - another: - I finally became disillusioned with life.
    You can't believe anything. I open the door, which read "Gentlemen", and there was a toilet!
  • snake
    snake 2 July 2020 14: 36
    -4
    Quote: Clear
    Indeed, Sergey, why is Maria so shamelessly coming to the fore?

    All! There is no longer any Sergey ... There was Sergey, but the whole left ... With the light hand of Serg65 I am now Sasha. Serg65 in vain after all will not chat. Great mind and great ranks of man. Marshal, not anyhow who!
    What does Masha have to do with it? There was no question about Masha. And Golovany, they are everywhere. Filled the planet. I already myself, to some extent, Golovan ...
  • Clear
    Clear 2 July 2020 14: 56
    +1
    Sergey, well, here I don’t need male excuses and excuses here stop
    Quote: serpent
    All! There is no more Sergey ...

    Quote: serpent
    There was Sergey, but the whole thing came out ...

    Quote: serpent
    What does Masha have to do with it?

    Quote: serpent
    There was no question about Masha.


    To completely offend a woman crying you still have to add-
    You are the one to blame!
  • Masha
    Masha 2 July 2020 14: 36
    +3
    Clear, wait a little .... let him decide on his orientation ... whether it be with Masha, who .... whether with beautiful Yasnaya ...
    . tongue
  • Clear
    Clear 2 July 2020 15: 00
    +1
    Quote: Masha
    Clear, wait a little .... let him decide on his orientation ... whether it be with Masha, who .... whether with beautiful Yasnaya ...
    . tongue

    Insidious, you are Masha. You see he serpent (Sergey) left me crying
    Hmm, and what did he find in you? what
  • Masha
    Masha 2 July 2020 15: 31
    +3
    So beautiful !!!! only the fee is more beautiful ....
  • Clear
    Clear 2 July 2020 15: 39
    +2
    Quote: Masha
    So beautiful !!!! only the fee is more beautiful ....

    Maybe he will change his mind and ... will return winked
  • Masha
    Masha 2 July 2020 13: 07
    +4
    It is clear to the last fool that if we are talking about the Order, then we are talking about "Sasha" - this is 99% about Logal.

    Well ... if it came to the Order, then Masha is Golovan .... and in general she is a man! wassat
    Around alone Golovany !!!!! wink
  • Terenin
    Terenin 30 June 2020 17: 45
    +3
    Quote: Serg65
    Quote: serpent
    Yes, we have a protector hero here.

    Sergei, give this "hero" to the serpent, otherwise he will again write a complaint or, as in the post below, will die ...
  • snake
    snake 1 July 2020 16: 46
    -6
    Quote: Terenin
    otherwise he will write a complaint again

    What are these vulgar hints, Gennady? Aren't you ashamed of yourself?
  • tatra
    tatra 30 June 2020 14: 24
    -2
    WHAT specifically homeland do you defend, with what power, and with what social system? Bolshevik communists and their supporters defended our Soviet Motherland. Which one do you defend, the Yeltsin-Putin-oligarchic one? And then people like you, in the Civil and Great Patriotic War, rushed to "defend the Motherland" together with the invaders of their Motherland, unleashing two destructive, murderous, predatory wars on the territory of their Motherland.
  • Serg65
    Serg65 30 June 2020 14: 51
    +4
    Quote: tatra
    WHAT specifically do you defend your homeland

    I have one Motherland-RUSSIA! And my Motherland is already 1000 years old!
    Quote: tatra
    And then people like you

    Ahh, yes ... Vlasov plagued the enemies of the Communists in batches, Stalin fiddled with Vlasov for a cheek. Khrushchev plagued the enemies of the Communists with thousands, Khrushchev himself Stalin watered Georgian wine. Hundreds of Mikoyan's enemies of the Communists were plagued, Stalin himself invited Mikoyan to a joint rest. Voroshilov cleaned the Red Army from the enemies of the Communists, Stalin himself repeatedly raised a glass for Voroshilov!
    So what?
    And the fact that all these real communists of their time easily betrayed Stalin !!!
    Output. Communism is the struggle of party officials for a place near the knee of the Secretary General of the RSDLP (b), the CPSU (b), the Communist Party !!! But not freedom, equality and fraternity!
    Well, at least take Tatra Sergey, you, consuming oligarch money, are talking nonsense into the ears of young and not strong minds for what?
  • snake
    snake 30 June 2020 14: 59
    -2
    Quote: Serg65
    I have one Motherland-RUSSIA! And my Motherland is already 1000 years old!

    In the Cyrillic record, the word "Russia" (Rusѡѡ) was first used on April 24, 1387 [29] in Constantinople in the title Metropolitan Kiprian, who personally signed as “Metropolitan of Kiev and All Russia.” In the XV-XVI centuries the Hellenized name "Russia" was assigned to that part of the Russian lands, which was united into a single state under the leadership of the Moscow Principality. The state acquired the official status of the kingdom after the coronation procedure: the wedding of Ivan IV to the kingdom in 1547, after which the state became known as the Russian kingdom [30]. The modern spelling of the word - with two letters "C" - appeared from the middle of the XVII century and was finally consolidated under Peter I.

    What is it? Either your homeland is not Russia, or your homeland is not 1000 years old. But this is nonsense, right? The main thing is to express oneself more pathetically.
  • Serg65
    Serg65 30 June 2020 15: 06
    +2
    Quote: serpent
    or your homeland is not 1000 years old

    Yes Serena, you're right ... I was wrong ... not 1000 years, 1032 years, well, to be precise! It was from the baptism of pagan Russia that God the same Russia was born!
    Quote: serpent
    Or your homeland is not Russia,

    And your homeland, although called Ukraine, is still considered Russia wink
    Quote: serpent
    The main thing is to express oneself more pathetically.

    You can report to Khodorkovsky in such a way ... like they say so ... I said to the troll, sir !!! laughing
  • snake
    snake 30 June 2020 15: 29
    0
    Quote: Serg65
    It was from the baptism of pagan Russia that God the same Russia was born!

    What is "the same"? The one that was under Vladimir? Or the one that was under Ivan the Terrible? Maybe the one that was under Peter the Great, or the one that was under the USSR?
    Quote: Serg65
    your homeland is called Ukraine though

    Quote: Serg65
    Can you report to Khodorkovsky

    Again along the path of least resistance ... Slightly different from the liking of kvass patriotism, right away - Ukraine and Khodorkovsky ... Primitivism of thinking is evident.
    How deeply do you know your own family? 2, 3, 4, 5 generations ago? "That same" Russia ... Putin's, Yeltsin's, Gorbachev's, Brezhnev's, Khrushchev's, Stalin's? Was she always "the same"?
  • Serg65
    Serg65 1 July 2020 11: 02
    +4
    Quote: serpent
    or the one that was under the USSR?

    Of course, I understand that you and your friends have a strong opinion that the USSR as a state took shape in a deserted, nobody-owned space and that the Russians before the USSR walked in torn fur coats, ate exclusively vodka and slept with bears in an embrace, Well, then so be it, live in your ignorance and rejoice at it! wink
  • snake
    snake 1 July 2020 17: 11
    -1
    Quote: Serg65
    I certainly understand

    When I take out ...
    Quote: Serg65
    you and your friends have a strong opinion

    How sustainable? How would you know my opinion and the opinion of my friends, Sherlock?
    Quote: Serg65
    Russians before the USSR walked in ragged fur coats, ate exclusively vodka and slept with bears in an embrace

    Do you happen to write scripts for American movies?
  • Serg65
    Serg65 2 July 2020 08: 15
    +2
    Quote: serpent
    When I take out ...

    laughing Well, if you start to be rude, then a hundred pounds I'm right !!!!
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 30 June 2020 19: 56
    0
    "I have one Motherland-RUSSIA! And my Motherland is already 1000 years old!"
    Show me on the map your Russia 1000 years ago. Together we laugh at your delirium
  • poquello
    poquello 1 July 2020 01: 50
    -1
    Quote: Doliva63
    "I have one Motherland-RUSSIA! And my Motherland is already 1000 years old!"
    Show me on the map your Russia 1000 years ago. Together we laugh at your delirium

    In 1022, Prince Vladimir "planted" to rule Tmutarakan his son, Prince Mstislav. Under him, the church of the Blessed Virgin Mary was erected in the city.
    After Mstislav, the city was ruled by the grandson of Yaroslav the Wise - Gleb Svyatoslavovich. The results of his “great measurement” have come down to us: the prince measured on ice the width of the Kerch Strait between Kerch and Tmutarakan.
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 1 July 2020 18: 31
    -2
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: Doliva63
    "I have one Motherland-RUSSIA! And my Motherland is already 1000 years old!"
    Show me on the map your Russia 1000 years ago. Together we laugh at your delirium

    In 1022, Prince Vladimir "planted" to rule Tmutarakan his son, Prince Mstislav. Under him, the church of the Blessed Virgin Mary was erected in the city.
    After Mstislav, the city was ruled by the grandson of Yaroslav the Wise - Gleb Svyatoslavovich. The results of his “great measurement” have come down to us: the prince measured on ice the width of the Kerch Strait between Kerch and Tmutarakan.

    What, Prince Vladimir was a Russian prince? laughing Well, kapets, education below the plinth, excuse me for the idiom.
  • poquello
    poquello 1 July 2020 19: 03
    0
    Quote: Doliva63
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: Doliva63
    "I have one Motherland-RUSSIA! And my Motherland is already 1000 years old!"
    Show me on the map your Russia 1000 years ago. Together we laugh at your delirium

    In 1022, Prince Vladimir "planted" to rule Tmutarakan his son, Prince Mstislav. Under him, the church of the Blessed Virgin Mary was erected in the city.
    After Mstislav, the city was ruled by the grandson of Yaroslav the Wise - Gleb Svyatoslavovich. The results of his “great measurement” have come down to us: the prince measured on ice the width of the Kerch Strait between Kerch and Tmutarakan.

    What, Prince Vladimir was a Russian prince? laughing Well, kapets, education below the plinth, excuse me for the idiom.

    ) About Me? or you don’t stop making yourself up to understand and explain what’s embarrassing
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 1 July 2020 19: 41
    -3
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: Doliva63
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: Doliva63
    "I have one Motherland-RUSSIA! And my Motherland is already 1000 years old!"
    Show me on the map your Russia 1000 years ago. Together we laugh at your delirium

    In 1022, Prince Vladimir "planted" to rule Tmutarakan his son, Prince Mstislav. Under him, the church of the Blessed Virgin Mary was erected in the city.
    After Mstislav, the city was ruled by the grandson of Yaroslav the Wise - Gleb Svyatoslavovich. The results of his “great measurement” have come down to us: the prince measured on ice the width of the Kerch Strait between Kerch and Tmutarakan.

    What, Prince Vladimir was a Russian prince? laughing Well, kapets, education below the plinth, excuse me for the idiom.

    ) About Me? or you don’t stop making yourself up to understand and explain what’s embarrassing

    The listed princes are the times of Kievan Rus, what does Russia have to do with it? I heard that the newly created (unexpectedly) Russian Federation under Eltsyn declared itself the successor of the Union, but that I did not hear Kievan Rus laughing So your Russia does not pull for 1000 years, alas. Since the 16th century, 1000 years have not yet passed. Is this clear?
  • poquello
    poquello 1 July 2020 20: 36
    +1
    Quote: Doliva63
    The listed princes are the times of Kievan Rus, what does Russia have to do with it? I heard that the newly created (unexpectedly) Russian Federation under Eltsyn declared itself the successor of the Union, but so that Kievan Rus did not hear laughing. So your Russia does not stretch for 1000 years, alas. Since the 16th century, 1000 years have not yet passed. Is this clear?

    Is this Yeltsin should have announced? there it is. ))))))))
    Kievan Rus was invented by historians for the convenience of generalization, well, and that "continuity" is not at all about history, it's a shame not to know.
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 2 July 2020 16: 13
    -1
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: Doliva63
    The listed princes are the times of Kievan Rus, what does Russia have to do with it? I heard that the newly created (unexpectedly) Russian Federation under Eltsyn declared itself the successor of the Union, but so that Kievan Rus did not hear laughing. So your Russia does not stretch for 1000 years, alas. Since the 16th century, 1000 years have not yet passed. Is this clear?

    Is this Yeltsin should have announced? there it is. ))))))))
    Kievan Rus was invented by historians for the convenience of generalization, well, and that "continuity" is not at all about history, it's a shame not to know.

    I'm not ashamed, I know laughing
  • poquello
    poquello 2 July 2020 21: 31
    -1
    Quote: Doliva63
    I'm not ashamed

    No doubt
    Quote: Doliva63
    I know

    ) I doubt
    the listed princes of Rurikov’s clan and were called Rus
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 3 July 2020 19: 35
    -1
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: Doliva63
    I'm not ashamed

    No doubt
    Quote: Doliva63
    I know

    ) I doubt
    the listed princes of Rurikov’s clan and were called Rus

    And what, they were Russian princes? Transcarpathian Rurikovich also write to Russia? laughing And Lithuania was also called Rus - have you heard about Lithuanian Rus? I have ancestors from there. And I have a document from there, dated 1555. - really wrote in Russian! Are they also your strange mythical Russia? Well, there was no Russia then, damn it! It began with the borders of the Moscow principality, on those borders and, it seems, will end with such illiterate "patriots" laughing
  • poquello
    poquello 4 July 2020 00: 35
    0
    Quote: Doliva63
    And what, they were Russian princes?

    they were Russian princes, on the origin of the naming "Russian" from "Russian" smoke history, literate gee gee
    Quote: Doliva63
    Transcarpathian Rurikovich also write to Russia? laughing And Russia was also called Lithuania - have you heard about Lithuanian Russia?

    history changes territories, Lithuania was in Russia, history smokes, competent gee gee, well, if I'm too lazy I can tell how Lithuania was led away)))))))
    Quote: Doliva63
    It began from the borders of the Moscow principality

    ) gee gee, where are we going to do with Alexander Nevsky? Don't you like Russian chronicles? How does Pope Honorius III address the princes? right, "kings of Russia"
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 4 July 2020 19: 58
    0
    Russian annals? So there are none, only remodels. wassat
  • poquello
    poquello 5 July 2020 00: 45
    0
    Quote: Doliva63
    Russian annals? So there are none, only remodels. wassat

    )
    Quote: poquello
    and where are we going to put Alexander Nevsky?
  • poquello
    poquello 30 June 2020 15: 10
    +2
    Quote: tatra
    And then people like you, in the Civil and Great Patriotic War rushed to "defend the Motherland" together with the invaders of their Motherland

    so you and now "rush", but she is as it is, not Soviet, not yours, "hey her!"
  • Terenin
    Terenin 30 June 2020 17: 52
    +4
    Quote: tatra
    And then people like you, in the Civil and Great Patriotic War, rushed to "defend the Motherland" together with the invaders of their Motherland, unleashing two destructive, murderous, predatory wars on the territory of their Motherland.

    So detailed and viciously can you describe only your biography.
  • Serg65
    Serg65 30 June 2020 13: 56
    +1
    Quote: tatra
    Hah yes

    what Is it strange that you are silent about your financiers !?
  • Terenin
    Terenin 30 June 2020 17: 30
    +2
    Quote: tatra
    Ha, yes, and Putin, for whom his propagandists are crucified here, was also a "loyal communist" when it was profitable. So who are you protecting here? The communist Putin, or the enemy of the communists and the USSR Putin?

    There you are HA- you know, in every post, but from them and your "explanations" one can only understand that a communist is a capitalist, an Orthodox and an atheist rolled into one.
    Grandpa, you will continue to be Hahack? or explain normally crying
  • Nick
    Nick 1 July 2020 07: 39
    0
    Quote: tatra
    Ha, yes, and Putin, for whom his propagandists are being crucified, was also a "loyal communist"

    We were all pioneers, Komsomol members, communists. Such was education, ideology, the requirement of life. Just do not now campaign on behalf of the Communists for the Motherland. The communists Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Shevardnadze, Shushkevich, Kravchuk, her, Motherland, were divided into specific principalities. Communist scoundrels, having collapsed the USSR, are now looking for the extreme, trying to transfer their guilt to those who are defending their homeland. Look for fools in the mirror.
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 1 July 2020 19: 48
    -1
    So they are scoundrels that the Union collapsed, or vice versa?
  • Nick
    Nick 2 July 2020 01: 50
    -2
    Quote: Doliva63
    So they are scoundrels that the Union collapsed, or vice versa?

    Non-return.
  • My doctor
    My doctor 30 June 2020 17: 05
    -2
    Quote: tatra
    for the capture and dismemberment by them of the USSR

    A familiar surveyor was sent to the Baltic states. So there they were met in the countryside with guns, who did not have it with forks and dogs, not allowing shooting on their sites. Motivating by the fact that there is nothing to build here.
    At the same time, in Ukraine, a friend of mine on vacation in the mountains witnessed how nationalist slogans shouted against Muscovites while shouting around bonfires.
    Most likely the collapse of the USSR, it was a matter of time.
  • poquello
    poquello 1 July 2020 10: 45
    +1
    Quote: MyVrach
    Quote: tatra
    for the capture and dismemberment by them of the USSR

    A familiar surveyor was sent to the Baltic states. So there they were met in the countryside with guns, who did not have it with forks and dogs, not allowing shooting on their sites. Motivating by the fact that there is nothing to build here.
    At the same time, in Ukraine, a friend of mine on vacation in the mountains witnessed how nationalist slogans shouted against Muscovites while shouting around bonfires.
    Most likely the collapse of the USSR, it was a matter of time.

    March 1, 1953 begins broadcasting a radio station called "Radio" Liberation "." Her first speaker was Sergey Dubrovsky. According to the official history of the radio station, Radio Osvobozhdenie was conceived by the American Committee for Liberation from Bolshevism as an emigrant radio, the mouthpiece of the Anti-Bolshevik Struggle Center for the liberation of the homeland from the communist dictatorship. This radio station Broadcast in the languages ​​of the peoples of the Union republics of the USSR,
  • poquello
    poquello 30 June 2020 13: 23
    -1
    Quote: Malyuta
    The USSR produced a completely modern ocean fleet !!!

    do not know how to read
    by similar price purchased "Vladimir Vaslyaev"
  • KERMET
    KERMET 30 June 2020 11: 19
    +3
    It is the "galoshes" in Putin's speech that are a figurative expression of EVERYTHING that was produced in the USSR
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 30 June 2020 17: 02
      +1
      Quote: KERMET
      It is the "galoshes" in Putin's speech that are a figurative expression of EVERYTHING that was produced in the USSR

      Not all, but only Soviet consumer goods. He noted the defense and space separately.
      1. KERMET
        KERMET 1 July 2020 19: 30
        0
        Can I quote about the defense industry and space? And then in that video about this clarification, not a word
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 2 July 2020 21: 16
          0
          Quote: KERMET
          Can I quote about the defense industry and space? And then in that video about this clarification, not a word

          А that video skillfully circumcised - behind the scenes, Putin’s gratitude to grandfathers and fathers for the defense industry that they created was left behind.
          Here is the full version of the part of the speech of the GDP that was dedicated to galoshes:
          1. KERMET
            KERMET 3 July 2020 10: 18
            0
            Thank you, but anyway throwing such words from the rostrum is a spit in the direction of all workers of the light industry of the USSR, a graduate of the KGB structure needs to know this and, moreover, to understand the reasons for the distortions and deficit in the USSR
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 30 June 2020 12: 05
    +4
    Quote: Nick
    A figurative expression that does not need to be taken literally.

    Considering the level of education of the overwhelming majority of local "fighters" who make three mistakes in the word "soul" and have zero analytical skills, they will push such a hat until the end of their days. yes hi
    1. cniza
      cniza 30 June 2020 13: 01
      +3
      It would be better if they went to study and did not buzz here with all sorts of nonsense ...
  • Far B
    Far B 30 June 2020 13: 05
    +2
    Adyn: Is there a weak list of this "little could sell"?
    Two: "the period of the USSR" - can you be more precise? Or has the list not changed for 70 years?
    Three: can a resident list the items we sell now and compare it with what was then?
  • Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 30 June 2020 17: 12
    +1
    Malyuta author ??? Fear God. Bad copywriter.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 30 June 2020 17: 59
      +4
      Quote: Okolotochny
      Malyuta author ??? Fear God. Bad copywriter.

      So if he, of all the tasks of a copywriter, understood only one thing - “hook” the reader from the first lines winked
  • nPuBaTuP
    nPuBaTuP 30 June 2020 09: 46
    +3
    I have problems playing video.

    You can’t worry, in this fragment galoshes are mentioned in the context of the fact that Africans could buy them for wearing on hot sand ...... but it says that we produced only galoshes ..... so Malyuta words to the studio ... ..a then you constantly fart in the water ...... loudly and smelly .... and the utility effect is zero .....
  • Ham
    Ham 30 June 2020 10: 20
    +2
    and where did he say that "nothing but galoshes" ??? he speaks there about a bias towards heavy industry!
    what spaceships, nuclear reactors and the ocean fleet were building, but there was a problem with consumer goods! those who lived in the ussr understand me perfectly!
    shoes, clothes, furniture, household appliances, etc. - we had disgusting quality!
    Romanian furniture, Yugoslavian footwear - the dream of every Soviet person ... that's why the "fartsa" and speculators flourished ...
    that's why the country was sold for jeans and Chinese adidos ...
    so you lied propaganda, as it lied ...
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 30 June 2020 11: 24
      -1
      Quote: Ham
      shoes, clothes, furniture, household appliances, etc. - we had disgusting quality!

      Haha Foreign trade of the USSR
      The national economy of the USSR for 70 years
      Anniversary Statistical Yearbook
      http://istmat.info/node/9321
      Quote: Ham
      so you lied propaganda, as it lied ..

      I laugh from your attempts, there is no creativity in you, pale, silly, smallish ... laughing
      But the fact that the Soviet ship is part of the American Navy, as it is basking, is on the face.
      1. Ham
        Ham 30 June 2020 11: 41
        -1
        Thanks propagandon for confirming my words!
        The main export items are heavy industry products and raw materials!
        and our galoshes, as pointed out by our president - no one cares!
        and the ship remained part of the ChMP in Ukraine and its banderlogs sold it ... they and their mother will be sold as practice shows
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 June 2020 16: 34
        -2
        And you apparently have a gray matter in the cranium - because they themselves did not delve into the statistics that they themselves cited. The most important indicator of the economy of any country, the food security of the USSR began to fly over it with a whistle starting in the 60s, despite the presence of thousands of state farms, collective farms, tens of millions of livestock, hundreds of thousands of tractors, combines with tens of millions of hectares of arable land, grain and meat began to be purchased every year more and more, including modern foreign equipment with consumer goods. In the 80s, what happened was that it was inevitable that the foreign exchange earnings for which the USSR bought all this from the capitalist countries sharply decreased, and to this all were added other historical events that became stalemate for the USSR budget: the accident at the BSEC, the earthquake in Armenia, the cost of the war in Afghanistan , defense spending, oil production crisis in the USSR + to a drop in oil prices, scanty gold reserves that were spent in all previous years, crop failures in the world in 1989 with a rise in food prices and a cherry on a cake of Soviet products - 500000 complaints a year, this is by the way about quality export, even if Gorbachev had not come to power, the economic and industrial crisis in the USSR would have happened in any case, with all the consequences in the future, up to the collapse of the country, and against this background, the Yeltsins, along with their comrades, appeared anyway. Everything else about some CIA agents, some traitors, some conspiracies against the USSR - such a pathetic attempt to otmazatsya "It's not We who destroyed and brought the country to this - they ruined and brought" Gorsh price to such a country that cannot provide itself with food and a penny a country and a system that can be ruined by a bunch of officials. And the fact that people were made gullible fools - whose gullibility in the 90s was used by numerous swindlers and swindlers is the same merit of the USSR.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 30 June 2020 17: 12
          -1
          Quote: Vadim237
          And you seem to have gray matter in the skull - because they themselves did not delve into the statistics that they themselves cited.

          Well, yes, your cleverness, you look in the book, and you see a fig.
          I cited a short article that shows an increase in the export of high-tech equipment from year to year, and the share of imports for the USSR was completely not critical for food products, including
          So read carefully, Mr. 237. bully
          Threat. The USSR openly published information on exports / imports, and now .....
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 30 June 2020 15: 06
    +1
    He spoke about the civilian sector, there really, for the most part, Galoshes were made comparing with Western goods.
  • VladBel
    VladBel 30 June 2020 20: 36
    +1
    Even children in the states wear galoshes. Just change the color and shape and our galoshes will be better than the Chinese ones in which the Americans go. But our galoshes, cast-iron pans, will simply not be admitted to the American market, but will be ordered in China, which has an even greater trade imbalance. In a certain price niche, Russian goods could compete very successfully, but there in Russia politicians claim only the opposite. I've tried to buy in Russia a batch of various building materials made of fiberglass, basalt fiber, plastic, etc. It's 10 times cheaper in Russia, but the sellers don't want to work with me. They are afraid of a "friendly interface" between countries.
  • Serg65
    Serg65 30 June 2020 09: 24
    -1
    Quote: Lesovik
    In each line you try to mention him

    Money, my friend Lesovik, money in this world does wonders for people! Do not believe? And now you ask Malyuta, for how much will he sell his native mother?
    1. Woodman
      Woodman 30 June 2020 09: 30
      +2
      Quote: Serg65
      And now you ask Malyuta, for how much will he sell his native mother?

      I am not interested in the contents of other people's pockets, so let this moment remain on his conscience ... If, of course, it has not yet been sold "at a fair price."
    2. Malyuta
      Malyuta 30 June 2020 09: 39
      -8
      Quote: Serg65
      Do not believe? And now you ask Malyuta, for how much will he sell his native mother?

      It seems to me that you have lost the shores! Now you have inflicted a personal insult on me !!! angry
      Threat. Are you generally sure that you are a man?
      1. Ham
        Ham 30 June 2020 10: 31
        +3
        challenge him to a duel))) to the barrier!)))
        you yourself brazenly lying how can you "insult"?
        1. Ilya Nikitich
          Ilya Nikitich 30 June 2020 17: 43
          +1
          Quote: Ham
          challenge him to a duel))) to the barrier!)))

          "- Wonderful! I can recommend you my good friend. Knows the dueling code by heart and has two brooms, which are quite suitable for a life-and-death struggle. You can take Ivanopulo and his neighbor on the right as seconds. He is a former honorary citizen of the city of Kologriva and is still since then he boasts of this title. Otherwise, you can arrange a duel in a meat grinder - it's more elegant. Every wound is certainly fatal. A defeated enemy is mechanically transformed into a cutlet. Does that suit you, leader? " (C) I. Ilf E. Petrov.
      2. Serg65
        Serg65 30 June 2020 11: 40
        +1
        Quote: Malyuta
        It seems to me that you have lost the shores!

        Do you think so?
        Quote: Malyuta
        Now you have inflicted a personal insult on me !!!

        smile Ooh, are we starting to bargain already? My dear, the first price is yours!
        Quote: Malyuta
        Are you generally sure that you are a man?

        I’m sure of myself, but vague doubts about me are gnawing at you!
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 30 June 2020 12: 04
          -3
          Quote: Serg65
          I’m sure of myself, but vague doubts about me are gnawing at you!

          Normal decent people do not mention other people's mothers in sue, so I consider communicating with you completely unacceptable for myself, and it is pointless to hammer the "arrows" of the Internet troll.
          Adjuos.
          Threat. I hope for understanding and knowledge of geography. hi
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 30 June 2020 12: 07
            +1
            Quote: Malyuta
            Normal decent people

            Normal decent people do not sell their homeland at every gate !!! am
            Quote: Malyuta
            hammering the "arrows" of the Internet troll is meaningless.

            Why is it so? Considering lousy money is considered much more pleasant than answering for your words?
    3. cniza
      cniza 30 June 2020 13: 05
      +1
      "For a jar of jam and a pack of cookies," but seriously, he doesn't know how to sell anything, it was bought ... hi
  • Far B
    Far B 30 June 2020 09: 24
    +4
    It's funny. Malyuta does not have the word "Putin". And do you have. So who has a portrait hanging there?
    1. Woodman
      Woodman 30 June 2020 09: 29
      0
      Quote: Dalny V
      It's funny. Malyuta does not have the word "Putin".

      Quote: Malyuta
      as the president claims.

      Do you think he said about Trump? Or maybe about Zelensky? Well then - sorry, the flags were removed, it’s not clear where it is broadcasting from.
  • SOVIET UNION 2
    SOVIET UNION 2 30 June 2020 09: 45
    +5
    Well, if the USSR made only galoshes! That modern Russia is not even able to do galoshes! This is an atomic bomb and a galoshes satellite !? All this was done by people in galoshes after the war! The country is in ruins, a lot of people died and mostly men! There is a demographic hole in the country! Will such a country go to Putin? What would become of the country? If he already got the country in much better condition and he could not raise it in 20 years! If today the strategic direction of the economy is pipes and sweeping the population through pension reform! What would Putin do then? If today there are no technological breakthroughs and flights into space! For 20-30 years they managed to alienate the territories of RI and the USSR from Russia! We exchanged Crimea (Russia), Ukraine (surrendered) to the Americans! Well, put Putin in the place of Stalin! Why did Stalin build cities, factories, schools, hospitals, and the population grew under him, and under Putin they abandoned cities and villages, dismantled factories, hospitals and schools are reduced, the population is reduced! Why is this happening under Putin if everything was so bad under the USSR? Why didn’t there be enough workers under Stalin, and under Putin there were surpluses? Is labor productivity up? And why then did the number of working hours increase? Are they paid in double size? Oh well! Why, in the production of galoshes, medicine, education and apartments were free? What kind of shisha? Which of the modern bourgeoisie is building housing for his workers, children's camps and sanatoriums? After all, private traders are more effective than the state !? Yes or no? So where then is the effectiveness of the private trader?
  • cniza
    cniza 30 June 2020 12: 57
    +1
    Quote: Lesovik
    Just admit it - do you have a portrait of the president instead of an icon? You try to mention it in every line. Could not cite a quote where Putin "claims" that the USSR could "make only galoshes" and nothing but galoshes?


    He falls asleep under it and gets up with it ..., but when the NWP was the largest in the world and disappeared a few years after Ukraine gained independence, it was the first to be eaten.
  • Far B
    Far B 30 June 2020 09: 22
    +7
    Nizashto. Some galoshes. There were not only three major fishing companies in Vladivostok. Galoshes were obtained exclusively. And all these "Commonwealth", "Fisherman of Vladivostok", "Fisherman of Chukotka" and tede are all the liberals invented
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 30 June 2020 17: 07
      +2
      Quote: Far In
      Nizashto. Some galoshes. There were not only three major fishing companies in Vladivostok. Galoshes were obtained exclusively. And all these "Commonwealth", "Fisherman of Vladivostok", "Fisherman of Chukotka" and tede are all the liberals invented

      Uh-huh ... the largest fishing fleet, constant overfulfillment of plans - and in stores, hake from waste fish gradually became a delicacy, pollock began to disappear behind it, and there all sorts of notothenia caught up. Canned fish from red fish - only in holiday sets. And not just anywhere, but in the Research Institute "Giprorybflot".
      Work for the sake of labor and numbers in the reports. And at the exit - empty shelves.
      1. Far B
        Far B 30 June 2020 17: 14
        +3
        That is, there was neither VBTRF, nor DMF, nor Rybholodflot?
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 30 June 2020 17: 48
          +1
          Quote: Far In
          That is, there was neither VBTRF, nor DMF, nor Rybholodflot?

          There were. They worked hard. Received rewards.
          The problem is that it was labor for labor, which did not lead to visible results: the results of this work available to citizens of the country became less and less every year. And the bigger the fishing fleet, the smaller and worse the fish became in stores.
          However, this was typical for the food industry of the late USSR - unprecedented harvests, milk yields and overfulfillment of the plan for meat peacefully coexisted with the sale of meat only by registration, "blue birds" and sausage trains.
          1. strannik1985
            strannik1985 30 June 2020 20: 55
            -1
            There were. They worked hard. Received rewards.

            Reduce defense / army spending, enter fishing cooperatives. There are options, the economy of the USSR of different periods was very different.
            And the most interesting nuance is the comparison. Where are Russian consumer goods and food now?
  • Serg65
    Serg65 30 June 2020 09: 22
    +1
    Quote: Malyuta
    who could build an ocean-going fleet, and not just "make galoshes" as the president claims.

    And where is that Soviet Union?
    Quote: Malyuta
    as the president claims.

    what Along the way, you and the Russian Federation, after the USSR, let go and the Moscow Republic will remain on the map!
    1. SOVIET UNION 2
      SOVIET UNION 2 30 June 2020 10: 03
      +3
      Judging by the echelons of shift workers in Moscow, the Moscow principality will soon remain! The rest of Russia is being cleared economically! There is no work, there’s nothing to live on! Does the Soviet Union clean up Russia? Do you think in the case of a mess there will be many defenders of modern power? Yes? Well, why then do many have different citizenship and foreign property? Or do foreign citizens have people who do not hold key posts? Do we have every janitor with two, three citizenships? And their salaries (janitors) such that they do not want to change it to a low import? So where is modern Russia today? What galoshes? Russia no longer makes its own! Russia today is in Chinese galoshes, but in fact, Russia has become a northern province (well, or the Autonomous Republic of China!)! All! Have sailed! All products are from China! True, Russia has two sights characteristic of Russia! There are no roads either in the private sector or in high-rise buildings! Here in the private sector, counters began to be put on street poles. So in the private sector, street lighting was also turned off (like, pay for the lighting!)! We’ll drive all Russia with the economic hand to the Moscow Principality !? For whom are we clearing the territory of Russia? Where are the new cities and villages? Where are the echelons of immigrants inland?
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 30 June 2020 12: 04
        -4
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        Does the Soviet Union clean up Russia?

        Judging by the fact that under the Soviet Union you think exclusively of yourself ... then yes, it is the people who call themselves the Soviet Union and cleanse Russia!
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        Judging by the echelons of shift workers in Moscow

        You are behind the times, my dear, now the echelons of shift workers are heading north wink
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        Do you think in the case of a mess there will be many defenders of modern power? Yes?

        No, well, the fact that you, my friend, will be the first to raise your hands and go to serve the aggressor, I have no doubt! In addition, you are already working part-time as a collaborator ... what really there!
    2. tatra
      tatra 30 June 2020 10: 13
      -1
      The USSR was destroyed by those who for 30 years cowardly whine in chorus "and we have nothing to do with it, it's all the communists are to blame", who from the republics of the USSR captured by them created States for themselves, at the expense of their country and people, and categorically do not want to change anything the fact that all the republics of the USSR seized by them have degraded, impoverished, and are dying out - compared to the Soviet period, they do not care, they have nothing to do with this either. And who, all 100 years after the October Revolution, prove by what they have done, said and wrote that they themselves believe that they had every right to organize a counter-revolution, to destroy the USSR.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 June 2020 16: 44
        +1
        In general, putting on your republics - Russia will no longer be an empire on the contrary and will feed all these parasites to the republican lads at their own expense. Kazakhstan recently again raised a project to transfer part of the river flow, so you build a channel for your money, and we will be more loyal to you - they were politely sent and correctly done.
    3. ultra
      ultra 30 June 2020 10: 15
      +3
      It is Putin who will bring the country to civil war and, accordingly, to collapse. The estate created by him can only be held with bayonets, which we are now observing.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 June 2020 16: 47
        -1
        Civil war will only be with you - in the ward of a neuropsychiatric hospital but do not worry with medication, doctors will defeat it
        1. ultra
          ultra 30 June 2020 17: 25
          +2
          Quote: Vadim237
          but do not worry with drugs, doctors will defeat her

          Are you from your own experience? laughing
  • Nick
    Nick 30 June 2020 09: 56
    0
    Quote: Malyuta
    and not just "making galoshes" as the president claims.

    The president put it this way about consumer goods, the total deficit of which was observed in recent decades of the USSR. And the ships, rockets and ballet in the USSR were at a good level.
    1. tatra
      tatra 30 June 2020 10: 15
      +4
      Enough already to lie and excuse Putin. He RECOGNIZED that you, the enemies of the communists, with your Yeltsin-Putin regime created a "one-sided" economy, but cowardly blamed the USSR, which produced galoshes, for this.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 30 June 2020 10: 21
        +2
        Quote: tatra
        what are you, enemies of the communists

        How many of your comments I don't read, I constantly have to delete someone from the lists of communists and transfer them to the list of "enemies of the communists." As a result, on the basis of your comments, I have only one single communist left on the list of "communists" - Comrade Stalin. Do you still have communists, except Stalin?
        1. tatra
          tatra 30 June 2020 10: 25
          -5
          Are you able to write anything NOT critical? Or is this already the incorrigible mentality of the enemies of the communists?
          1. Woodman
            Woodman 30 June 2020 10: 28
            +4
            Quote: tatra
            Or is this already the incorrigible mentality of the enemies of the communists?

            And I am already an "enemy of the communists" too? But he just asked ...
            Has a real communist ever "walked away" from answers or, instead of answers, began to "throw" accusations?
          2. Serg65
            Serg65 30 June 2020 12: 13
            +3
            Quote: tatra
            anything NOT critical you are able to write?

            belay So Comrade Stalin is no longer a communist ??? Tatra .....?, Are you from the Czech Republic or what?
      2. Nick
        Nick 30 June 2020 10: 22
        0
        Quote: tatra
        Enough to lie and excuse Putin already

        I do not excuse, but stating a fact.
        Quote: tatra
        He RECOGNIZED that you, the enemies of the Communists, with your Yeltsin-Putin regime created a "one-sided" economy, but cowardly shifted the blame for this on the USSR

        Present the fact of recognition, otherwise I will consider you verbiage.
        1. tatra
          tatra 30 June 2020 10: 27
          -4
          Do you have "video not playing" either?
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 30 June 2020 10: 47
            +1
            Quote: tatra
            Do you have "video not playing" either?

            Comrade Irina! love Our opponents are a continuation of the litter-tv, they are false and aggressive, with characteristic mental disorders, such as cognitive dissonance.
            In their heads, love for Stalin and Putinism can be combined at the same time. wassat This phenomenon can only be explained by a specialist. laughing
            1. Woodman
              Woodman 30 June 2020 11: 33
              0
              Quote: Malyuta
              Our opponents are a continuation of the litter-tv, they are false and aggressive

              Well, if you didn't bother to quote the quote that I asked earlier, limiting yourself to inserting a video, then maybe you can do something to confirm your accusations of lies? After all, I’m also like your “opponent” ...
            2. tatra
              tatra 30 June 2020 12: 54
              -1
              And trying to defame the Putin praised by them, and praised by them for the sake of profit in the mendacious anti-Sovietism of Nicholas II, they discredit them even more. This is what a myth they have concocted about Putin. That speaking to deputies or senators, he said "the USSR produced galoshes." And that's all. This is even more stupid.
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 30 June 2020 13: 32
                +1
                Quote: tatra
                This is even more stupid.

                It is useless for them to prove anything, they have a TV instead of their heads, they live in the kingdom of crooked mirrors, being direct accomplices of all the muck that is going on.
                Their fingers work well +/- press, but with critical thinking there are big problems. laughing
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 30 June 2020 16: 57
    +2
    Quote: Malyuta
    Another monument to the Soviet Union, which could build an ocean-going fleet, and not just "make galoshes" as the president claims.

    Or maybe you should not engage in selective quoting in the style of Rezun? Putin spoke out negatively only about Soviet consumer goods.
    Here is the full GDP quote:
    Yes, my dear, yes. No need to discuss. The fact is that what we produced (and we don’t have to wave our hands), nobody needed, because nobody bought our galoshes, except for the Africans, who had to walk on the hot sand. That is the whole point.

    We had a defense industry - cool, strong, and we are still proud of it. We are grateful to our grandfathers and our fathers for creating such a defense after the Great Patriotic War.

    From the audience: ... And the first satellite.

    Vladimir Putin: Both the first satellite and the first man in space are our common pride, these are the achievements of the Soviet government, of which we are all proud. These are nationwide achievements.

    But consumer goods ... Zhirinovsky has already said this. Where were they? There were none. Let's not lie to each other and the people. The people know what was and what was not.

    So, the ship mentioned in the article is not TNP, but that cool and strong defense industry. For it was built with an eye to the transfer of troops and equipment in which case.

    And about Soviet consumer goods, you can tell tales only to those who did not live in the USSR. It was easier for my mother to sew jackets and trousers on me and knit sweaters and other "bulky and woolen" things than running around the shops in the hope that something would be "thrown away". And this is in Leningrad.
    The German wall, Yugoslav and German shoes, Chinese jackets ... well, the Soviet man did not want to take what he himself often produced. smile
    And also in the USSR there were amazing color televisions "a gift to the enemy" - spontaneously igniting and self-exploding.
  • Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 1 July 2020 23: 10
    0
    and not just "make galoshes",


    This is for the development of galoshes (a little educational program)
  • Far B
    Far B 30 June 2020 09: 13
    0
    I agree. Minsk and Novorossiysk remember
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 30 June 2020 09: 16
    +2
    But the Black Sea Shipping Company under Kravchuk ragged unmercifully !!! So many ships, at the price of scrap metal, were melted down - it is incomprehensible to the mind!
  • Civil
    Civil 30 June 2020 09: 54
    +3


    What we can’t keep, lost, weep.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 30 June 2020 10: 20
    +5
    Quote: Lesovik
    That only in those years was not sold at a "fair price" ... It is sad to remember ... Very sad.

    They are the largest in the USSR NMP profuche for a penny. These three rollers with a gas turbine power plant of 50 thousand mares were transferred to the NMP, these were the most prestigious and new ships. There were no such high-speed vessels, even rarely which passengers could run 25 knots. And if they could now have a hundred such ships.
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 30 June 2020 11: 04
      +8
      Quote: tihonmarine
      They are the largest in the USSR NMP profuche for a penny.
      We have profited Ukraine itself, what can I say about the shipping company and ro-rokers. The Chinese wanted and were able to take away and finish building the Varyag, we didn't need it, they even poured out their own "Gorshkov" to the Indians. There were many reasons, not opportunities, to pick up and finish building the "Admiral Lobov" ("Ukraine").

      As for the project 1609 of the "Captain Smirnov" type (code "Atlantika"), these were dual-purpose ships, they were carefully "cleaned out", like the already laid down nuclear aircraft carrier "Ulyanovsk", through dummy firms.
      In the late 1990s. ships were sold at the price of scrap metal. "Vladimir Vaslyaev" went for $ 5 million. In the early 2000s, Captain Smirnov, Engineer Ermoshkin, and Captain Mezentsev were disposed of in India.
      In fact, the command of the US naval forces acquired the new "Vladimir Vaslyaev" for their own needs. After renovation and modernization, under the new name "Lance Corporal Roy Whit" the former Soviet container ship, and became the transport of the Rapid Reaction Force, joined the US Navy. Also, on the basis of these ships, helicopter carriers could be obtained, this was provided for by our project 10200 "Khalzan".
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 30 June 2020 12: 15
      +1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      These three rollers with a gas turbine power plant of 50 thousand mares were transferred to the NMP, these were the most prestigious and new ships.

      laughing Well, the "old mareman", and can you tell us why their flights were unprofitable ???
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 30 June 2020 17: 09
        +2
        Quote: Serg65
        Well, the "old mareman", and can you tell us why their flights were unprofitable ???

        This is the norm. smile
        Remember the same "Algols" who ended up in the ILC just because in the civilian sector these monsters ate more than they brought in income.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 1 July 2020 11: 20
          +1
          hi Welcome Alex!
          Quote: Alexey RA
          This is the norm.

          smile The problem was not only the gluttony of the Atlantic. NMP simply did not know what to do with these monsters! They were put on the Odessa-Far East line for .... Northern delivery (BABAM !!! laughing ), but it soon became clear ... by accident ... it turns out that not all Far Eastern ports can receive the Atlantic !!! By the way, it was the very same problem that killed another dual-purpose vessel, the Atamer-Lighter Sea Vessel!
  • iouris
    iouris 30 June 2020 13: 20
    +1
    If the country is sold "for the whole", then "sho 'crash" about private questions, what's the point?
  • Serg65
    Serg65 30 June 2020 09: 13
    +8
    "Vladimir Vaslyaev" is one of 4 tank landing ships sailing under the red, civilian flag. Slavaukraine sold these beautiful steamers back in the distant 90s!
    1. novel66
      novel66 30 June 2020 09: 16
      0
      healthy, buttery! hi where are the rest?
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 30 June 2020 09: 38
        +2
        Quote: novel xnumx
        where are the rest?

        They died at the "Coast of the Dead" called Alang, for mere pennies!
        Vaslyaev is the youngest of them, the Yankees to the puppies for him 5 lyamas of green presidents fell off the shoulder of his master’s shoulder, Kuchma joyfully danced with a hop!
        Healthy as a flyer hi
        1. novel66
          novel66 30 June 2020 10: 57
          +1
          But is it a bulk carrier or a roller?
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 30 June 2020 11: 29
            +2
            Quote: novel xnumx
            But is it a bulk carrier or a roller?

            Take the last.
          2. Serg65
            Serg65 30 June 2020 11: 34
            +1
            Quote: novel xnumx
            But is it a bulk carrier or a roller?

            Romych, you are a philologist in your soul! laughing ... Balker from English as translated?
            1. novel66
              novel66 30 June 2020 12: 01
              +1
              like something with a beam
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 30 June 2020 13: 17
                +1
                Apparently you are not an English philologist recourse
                Bulk cargo is translated, in Russian, a bulk carrier or in a tsevilnoy language bulk carrier wink
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 30 June 2020 11: 46
          0
          Quote: Serg65
          They died at the "Coast of the Dead" called Alang, for mere pennies!

          I have not seen a more terrible sight than Alang in my life.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 30 June 2020 11: 50
            +2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            A more creepy sight than Alang,

            Valera, well, tell me more about Alang!
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 30 June 2020 12: 15
              0
              Quote: Serg65
              Well, tell me more about Alang!

              Well, if you had to go to traders or fishermen, you should know what it is. Our entire Soviet fleet lies there, off the coast, knee-deep in water, a bus to Bombay, and there is no longer a fleet. My floating base there died in 1997.
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 30 June 2020 12: 16
                +1
                Quote: tihonmarine
                My floating base there died in 1997.

                laughing Well, about the floating base in more detail !!!
    2. ultra
      ultra 30 June 2020 10: 17
      +3
      In comparison with the fact that they "sold out" in Russia, these are just childish pranks.
      Quote: Serg65
      In the distant 90s, Slavau Ukraine sold these beautiful steamboats!
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 30 June 2020 11: 37
        +1
        Quote: ultra
        In comparison with the fact that they "sold out" in Russia, these are just childish pranks.

        If we consider that the NSR was many times larger than the same BMP, then this is not such pranks, although Russia is many times larger than Ukraine and shipping companies, respectively, Russia has more.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 30 June 2020 12: 20
          +4
          Quote: Serg65
          If you consider that the NMP was many times larger than the same BMP, then this is not such pranks, although Russia is many times larger than Ukraine

          Do not forget that the fishing fleet was much more than shipping companies, and also everything went into oblivion. There were about 70 large ships in my office. One Kaliningrad with 5 offices and hundreds of ships.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 30 June 2020 12: 25
            -1
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Do not forget

            Valera, I will never forget this !!! And I will fight to the last so that my children do not see what I happened to see !!!
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 30 June 2020 09: 18
    +3
    It's a shame and sadness. BMPs are the fastest to go, straight ahead at the Stakhanov pace. Having outstripped the NMP. This article is such a komenyuk to the GDP garden, with his words about galoshes, it was necessary to freeze this. .
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 30 June 2020 11: 32
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      BMP faster than anyone has sunk into oblivion, right at the Stakhanov pace. Ahead of the NMP.

      NMP and BMP have sunk into oblivion almost simultaneously.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 30 June 2020 11: 45
        +3
        But very quickly. At one time, the Ministry of Fisheries discussed the option of transferring the entire large-tonnage fishing fleet to the future Russian ports in 1988. Information is 100%. After separation, only the coastal fleet should have remained. There were smart foremen in the MPX, they knew why Humpback will lead, but unfortunately they did not win.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 30 June 2020 11: 49
          +1
          The trouble with the BMP began in 1990, when it was put on lease and allowed to keep most of the proceeds! That's when the soul rushed to heaven ..... and we will open "daughters", and we will buy hotels, and we will invest money there, and we will not order ships in the USSR, but in France and Germany!
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 30 June 2020 12: 05
            +4
            In the Canaries, the BMP even had a recreation center in the same place. In Murmansk, they operated according to the same scenario. Launching under a flag of convenience, the transfer is not known to whom. Money to your account abroad. Hundreds of ships in Murmansk have disappeared. Murmanrybprom is a combined hodgepodge. These two had more than 200 vessels. These Omul had BBGLs, they were still worn out. Sefholod is a separate topic, a thriller for 10 years. The only MTF held out until the end. With the owner Prutkov, he was lucky. Captain with a capital letter. Huber had to posture. to sell him his share of Norebo. Maybe the fleet will rejoice because of quotas for a new keel. New "space" projects, it is a pity that I will not work on them. Age.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 30 June 2020 12: 09
              +2
              Quote: tralflot1832
              Fleet may rejoice due to quotas for a new keel

              Of course it will rejoice, it cannot be otherwise!
              Quote: tralflot1832
              Age

              Health to you!
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 30 June 2020 12: 22
                +1
                Thank you! And you health !!!
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 30 June 2020 12: 44
              0
              Quote: tralflot1832
              Sephholod is a separate issue, a thriller for 10 years.

              According to this scenario, the thriller, like the Kaliningrad reflot.
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 30 June 2020 12: 53
                0
                It was more fun there. The owner of Sevholod brought close to the decommissioned scrap whose last place was Sevholod's camp site with a luxurious bath complex. He was a bath attendant there. We started with the delivery of cars, brought two-humped 250 each. Then the fun came out with shooting and ships. As a result, the former scrap the owner. And away we go.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 30 June 2020 20: 57
                  +1
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  It was more fun there. The owner of Sevholod brought close to himself a decommissioned scrap whose last place of work was Sevholod's camp site with a chic bath complex. He was a bath attendant there.

                  In the KBRF it was easier there, the agreement was at the level of our leaders, on the formation of a Russian-American enterprise. CBRF ships, small money s. Transfer to flags, chairman Ananiev (former political officer) slowly pulled out all the ships, and there was a gap with the pinods, take your money, and we take the ships. Scattered across different firms and in different countries. But the circus is different - the office is in Kaliningrad, and its new owner with ships and his Caudle in Singapore. And so the Kaliningrad office worked for TWO years without having ships, until they asked in Moscow, guys, where are the steamers? In general, for 5 years, the ships did not enter the ports of Russia, then the "cobblestone" (300 ton) "Malachite" was launched into the KLD for trial, slipped through. And Chu's fleet! Huh!
          2. Private-K
            Private-K 1 July 2020 00: 48
            +1
            Quote: Serg65
            The trouble BMP began in 1990

            Well, since the 70s, the income of the Soviet MMF and Vneshtorg mainly settled in Western banks, accumulating on all sorts of "Funds of something-there". The transfer to self-financing with the right of independent foreign trade operations allowed the communists from the MMF to become open millionaires, having seized part of the money in their hands.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 30 June 2020 12: 23
        -1
        Quote: Serg65
        NMP and BMP have sunk into oblivion almost simultaneously.

        They started with the BMP, but the Sumerians quickly surpassed, the toad crushed, pennies from under his nose will lead away.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 30 June 2020 12: 26
          +4
          Quote: tihonmarine
          We started with BMP

          We began with the BMP during the Union!
  • Rzzz
    Rzzz 30 June 2020 09: 23
    +1
    Well, I must say that this ship was not entirely "civil". The speed is much higher than economically feasible for a civil ship (27 knots), and gas turbine engines (50 thousand hp), like some frigate - clearly hint at a dual purpose
    The Americans, by the way, lengthened his body.
  • An64
    An64 30 June 2020 09: 23
    +2
    Well, not only Soviet ships plow the oceans under the flag of the US Navy. In 2002, the Vyborg Shipyard built the platform on which the US SBX missile defense system now stands.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 30 June 2020 09: 33
      0
      Bookmark not set by accident?
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 June 2020 10: 27
      -1
      Quote: An64
      Vyborg Shipyard has built a platform on which now stands the SBX US missile defense radar.

      You are right in part. And now you’ll find at least one steamer that has a Russian radar, a Russian gyrocompass, an echo sounder, GPS, AIS, and indeed any navigation equipment, and in search fields, and search equipment. States sell, only the production of a civilian option (like we export, or something that is outdated.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 30 June 2020 09: 24
    0
    You can’t cover the mine that’s triggered, you won’t have time.
    1. Far B
      Far B 30 June 2020 09: 33
      +4
      This is an American. Have you seen any kin about them?
  • Private-K
    Private-K 30 June 2020 09: 35
    +3
    The universal ro-ro transports pr. 1609 to which this ship belongs was simply one of the coolest in general in all civilian fleets. The project itself was focused on faster delivery of goods than usual - the ships had almost twice the speed of the course than is typical of civilian "hucksters". Well, it was gorgeous for military purposes, incl. for the transfer of ground forces.
  • kig
    kig 30 June 2020 09: 39
    +2
    The ship belonged to the “Atlantic” type, that is, it was able to cover long distances in stormy ocean waters
    beautifully said, but not quite so. Or rather not at all. Atlantic - this was the name of the project by which ships were built. And as for dual-use ... in the USSR, any civilian ship was built taking into account the possibility of military transport. This is what Russia is lacking now. One of.
  • prior
    prior 30 June 2020 10: 01
    +3
    So much for the "galoshes" ....... the oceans are still trampled, but already under a false flag.
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 30 June 2020 11: 38
    +3
    when the country was plundered and sold, the Americans acquired at a reasonable price

    Not only that at a "reasonable" price .. So even these pennies went into the pocket of no one knows ..
    And how much it cost the Soviet people to build such a ship !!
  • gurzuf
    gurzuf 30 June 2020 11: 45
    +1
    What is characteristic, the entire merchant Black Sea fleet sold the first guarantee of non-fallow.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 30 June 2020 11: 56
      +2
      Quote: gurzuf
      What is characteristic, the entire merchant Black Sea fleet sold the first guarantee of non-fallow.

      The second one put a lot of work ...
  • SS-18
    SS-18 30 June 2020 15: 55
    11
    Quote: Lesovik
    That only in those years was not sold at a "fair price" ...

    -in "those years" they managed to sell the country ..
  • NordUral
    NordUral 30 June 2020 17: 04
    0
    I want to spit in hari of those who did it. Critters!
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 30 June 2020 17: 27
    +1
    Also to me, America was discovered, those who are older and in the subject know. A series of ro-ro and Kapitan Smirnov gas turbines were built in Nikolaev. Provided for a quick conversion to a large landing craft, reinforcements on the deck for the installation of weapons.
  • vladimych
    vladimych 1 July 2020 12: 57
    0
    They built good "steamers" in Nikolaev. I wonder how it is now.
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 1 July 2020 23: 29
      0
      They built good "steamers" in Nikolaev. I wonder how it is now.


      "Today the shipbuilding enterprise of Nikolaev has fallen into decay. Financial problems and the lack of orders have played a significant role in this process. Only empty workshops of a large complex of enterprises, as well as the museum operating within its walls, now remind of the former greatness. He managed to save just over two thousand In the central part of the exposition of the museum there are industrial ships, as well as models of other ships that have been launched since the first years of the enterprise's operation.There are both the first ship with fifty cannons, still in sail, and modern refrigerated ships, military cruisers and many others.
      FB.ru: "
  • Valery Fedorov
    Valery Fedorov 1 July 2020 16: 49
    0
    Ro-ro. Gas turbine vehicle of the "Captain Smirnov" type. The head and one more were received by BMP. After 2 flights, these engineering structures turned out to be somewhat unprofitable due to the high consumption of specific and expensive fuel, after which, under the motivation that they could damage screws in the Sea Canal, they were safely given to the citizens of Odessa, ChMP.
    Regarding the 2nd destination: the way it was. This steamer could easily be used in the event of hostilities, as a landing ship after the minimum appropriate modernization (installation of weapons).
  • Plastmaster
    Plastmaster 2 July 2020 04: 11
    0
    Quote: Vadim237
    78000 factories and factories and 600000 enterprises of factories of factories and offices from small to huge continue to operate in all areas of industry and agricultural industry according to public statistics. And by the way, where does the number of 78000 closed factories come from - more like a clean visa like garbage about 70000 disappeared villages and villages since 2000 - from your own garbage collectors.

    Sorry, I can start from Barnaul and the Altai Territory. And a little will fail. Yes, and what !!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, they started killing with the drunk, the same redhead. According to him, any closed enterprise is a nail in the coffin of the USSR. Sorry, this is not verbatim. And whose red one is friend?
  • Tutashkhia date
    Tutashkhia date 2 July 2020 07: 25
    0
    Well, you must! A corporal of the US Army (and perhaps the Marine Corps) sacrificed himself for the sake of his comrades, covering the detonated mine with his body! But what about the fact that "s (or s) are filthy cowards, they don't fight without ice cream and they don't have any real heroes"? AND?