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September 1, 2020. Distance education as a norm of life

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Source: pravmir.ru


Digital educational environment


News The transfer of the school from the new school year to distance education over the past few weeks has been repeatedly relayed by Internet resources. All refer to the draft decree of the Government of the Russian Federation on conducting an experiment in 2020-2022 on introducing a model of a digital educational environment. Education is a fertile ground for speculation, so the townsfolk decided to interpret this document as a direct regulation of the transition to distance learning.

The pilot project involves 14 regions of the country: Astrakhan, Kaliningrad, Kaluga, Kemerovo, Moscow, Nizhny Novgorod, Novgorod, Novosibirsk, Sakhalin, Tyumen and Chelyabinsk regions, the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District, as well as Perm and Altai Territories. The event is long: the dates are from September 1, 2020 to December 31, 2022. It will be implemented under the auspices of the federal project “Digital educational environment”. In addition to schools, institutions of secondary and additional professional education will take part in the experiment.


Source: b1.m24.ru

The essence of the project is based on creating such conditions in the school so that students can master the program in full regardless of their location. And in the text of the decision in decoding the concept of “Digital educational environment” there is this:

"... a set of conditions for the implementation of educational programs using e-learning, distance learning technologies."

Here lies the main reason for the panic raised on the corresponding resources. If this opportunity is provided, then the Ministry of Education will definitely take advantage of this, and children will never see school desks again! At least in these 14 pilot regions. For some reason, no one thinks that the very idea of ​​a total transition to a remote form is absurd.

In fact, the initiative is designed to solve a serious problem that all levels of education have had to face in recent months: the unwillingness to work under long-term quarantine. In fact, distance education in most regions boiled down to online meetings on platforms such as Zoom and Skype, as well as checking homework from photographs. There is no unified platform for conducting lessons and controlling knowledge, and if it existed, it would be unlikely that any of the teachers would have mastered it in full. Not because there is no desire or opportunity, but because before it was not necessary: ​​no one could think of such a long quarantine.

The Ministry of Education in this situation needed to somehow respond, and the development of this target model was just the answer to the pandemic shock. Does this mean that from September 1, the children will stay at home and again enter the classroom virtually?

Our new school


The beginning of the new school year, children will meet at the school. At least if by September a new wave of coronavirus infection does not unfold. Formally, according to the requirements of Rospotrebnadzor, educational institutions are opened only at the third (last) stage of lifting restrictions. The main factor influencing the transition from stage to stage is the distribution coefficient of coronavirus Rt: the number of registered patients in four days divided by the number of registered patients in the previous four days. If this parameter is equal to or lower than 0,5, then you can open schools, all shops, cafes and hotels. That is, freedom comes, however, in the mask mode. At the same time, Rospotrebnadzor separately mentions that the final decision on the transition to a particular stage of restrictions is made by the governor.

Now in Russia there are a number of regions that, by the formal attribute of Rt, it is too early to leave self-isolation, however, the restrictions are gradually being removed. Such logical reasoning will be at the forefront when choosing the format of instruction in Russian schools with the beginning of the new school year. And no experimental models of digital education are regulatory here.

At the same time, a large-scale experiment of the Ministry of Education should create all the conditions in the regions for a full-fledged transition to a distance learning form. For this purpose, a federal information and service platform (website and social network) will be developed, which will become a universal “electronic desk” in case of quarantine. It is important that the interactive lessons on the platform will be held in a group form with feedback. In all likelihood, access to such an online lesson will be through the public services portal (as the most reliable in terms of user verification). Schools will connect to high-speed Internet, purchase new computers, presentation equipment and create the conditions for instant messaging between parents, students and teachers. The last point, however, has long been implemented through popular instant messengers.


Source: miro.medium.com

The second most important objective of the project will be the development of educational content or the content of educational services as close as possible to school curricula. It is more complicated here, because throughout Russia there is a serious desynchronization of the passage of subjects of the school curriculum. Relatively speaking, in the Moscow region, multiplication takes place in an elementary school, and somewhere in Norilsk they have already begun division. What if in this case, if the textbooks are different? But this is not the main problem.

The challenges of distance education


An analysis of the Digital Educational Environment program gives hope that it will nevertheless have an exclusively auxiliary function in a modern school. It is not entirely clear how to organize distance learning of natural sciences. If everything is more or less clear with mathematics and the humanities cycle, then what about physics and chemistry? Practical and laboratory work occupies an important (if not the most important) part of the educational process. No, even the most modern animation does not replace this. Has Russian education moved so long toward a practice-oriented school to jump over to continuous interactive learning overnight? But there is still technology and physical culture, which in principle are impossible in the event of a transition to a distance.

If we hypothetically imagine that in September 2020 all of Russia (and not 14 regions) will switch to Internet training, in a couple of years graduates of the school will slightly differ in level of knowledge from 7-, 8-graders. The bonus will be a complete lack of communication skills and health preservation. We can safely talk about the lost generation, which there is simply no one to replace in the future. To do this, just look at the current demographic situation in the country.


Source: otv-media.ru

There are still questions for consumers of distance education services, that is, for parents and students. Does everyone have the opportunity to study in a remote format? Will everyone have high speed internet and video? Previously, a parent sent his child to school with the words: "I brought you to him, you teach him how you want!" What will be the reaction of parents now when the educational process will require their full involvement? Here, by the way, the opinion of parents generally comes to the fore. In the regions, education leaders do not have time to reassure "popular riots" about the mythical abolition of full-time schooling. Parents are horrified at what will happen with distance learning if there are two, three or four schoolchildren in the family. To each - a separate computer and a training room ?!

In this context, the emergence of the Digital Educational Environment program is more likely to be welcomed than condemned. A tool will appear in the hands of the school, allowing in case of an epidemiological danger not to rush about at a loss, but to work calmly with students on a "remote site". Temporarily. For a couple of weeks. The main thing here is not to abuse or remotely transfer everything in a row: All-Russian subject Olympiads, the Yunarmiya movement, educational forums and so on. And since distance education is already becoming the norm, let's put this norm into exclusion mode.
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  1. Grandfather
    Grandfather 30 June 2020 05: 26 New
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    distance education, distance work ... logical continuation: distance service in the army, distance family. and so on ... creepy, I do not want to live in such a world.
    1. Mussasi
      Mussasi 30 June 2020 06: 08 New
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      Yes, a couple of generations will be like under the tsars, the boyars (the so-called managers) are educated, and the "peasants" you understand ...
      1. sav
        sav 30 June 2020 08: 15 New
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        Quote: Mussashi
        as under the kings, the boyars (the so-called managers) are educated, but the "peasants" you yourself understand.

        That is, education is not for everyone.
        No, during the USSR I liked it more.
        1. alone
          alone 30 June 2020 10: 43 New
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          Quote: sav
          That is, education is not for everyone.
          No, during the USSR I liked it more.

          And this is a program that will lead to mass illiteracy in the country .. And as we know, it’s much easier to manage illiterate people .. So there’s nothing super surprising
          1. raw174
            raw174 30 June 2020 15: 39 New
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            Quote: lonely
            And this is a program that will lead to the fact that there will be mass illiteracy in the country.

            And who said that it is planned to switch to remote control on an ongoing basis? One grandmother ??? My daughter went to the third grade, her school curriculum is more complicated than the one I studied in, more complex mathematics, first of all, and foreign language from the second grade ... I think that the more complex the program, the smarter the student . At the beginning of the school journey, I drew squares, now by the end of the first quarter they are already quite fluently writing and reading. According to our teacher, the program has become more complicated.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 20: 35 New
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              Quote: raw174
              I painted squares at the beginning of my school journey

              At the beginning of the school journey, we studied letters, and we painted the Christmas tree squares in kindergarten.
            2. ltc35
              ltc35 1 July 2020 03: 44 New
              +5
              It's not about the squares! In the Soviet school, children were taught primarily to think, reflect and be creative in a solution. In the modern school curriculum, there is more automatism and standard solutions. With the advent of remote control, there will be a massive riveting of "slot machines" at the exit.
              1. raw174
                raw174 1 July 2020 07: 12 New
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                Quote: ltc35
                With the advent of remote control, there will be a massive riveting of "slot machines" at the exit.

                As a result, where did you personally get the idea that now school education will become distance learning on an ongoing basis?
                1. ltc35
                  ltc35 1 July 2020 21: 51 New
                  +1
                  So with the fact that the country is optimizing everything and everything. This is with regards to social programs, medicine and education. I do not affirm, but state. Even now they give birth to regional centers, because on the ground they covered everything that was possible. Maybe everything is different in your place in Moscow, but in our Altai it is. We got to education. I have been living in this world for a long time to think that way.
                  Ps And pay attention - I do not put minuses to people for their point of view, if any takes place.
                  1. raw174
                    raw174 2 July 2020 06: 10 New
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                    Quote: ltc35
                    Can you in Moscow everything is different, and we have in the Altai since.

                    In our country, it’s not in Moscow, it’s in the Chelyabinsk region (I am 400 km from the regional center) and yes, I agree with you about optimization, we have three children in Chelyabinsk, we have everything in the hospital, except for doctors , places of doctors are vacant, they don’t go to the village. Our region got into a pilot on the educational program, which is discussed in the article and therefore, I am concerned about this issue (three children), there is no talk about distance learning, we are preparing children by September 1 classically, and will go to school.
          2. Private89
            Private89 30 June 2020 19: 52 New
            +2
            They have everything according to plan, finish off the country.
    2. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 30 June 2020 06: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: Dead Day
      distance education, distance work ... logical continuation: distance service in the army, distance family. and so on ... creepy, I do not want to live in such a world.

      I support. but King Solomon seemed to like to say: This too shall pass.
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 30 June 2020 08: 44 New
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        The head of the Ministry of Education Sergei Kravtsov said that the new school year in Russian schools will begin on September 1. Writes about this "Interfax".
        According to Sergei Kravtsov, schoolchildren will begin to study as usual.
        «Children will go to school. We are preparing for this, the children themselves are preparing themselves - they miss school, the teachers are preparing - they also want to see their students, ”the minister said.
    3. Finches
      Finches 30 June 2020 06: 55 New
      +8
      The world is changing and moving more and more into virtual space - for better or worse, like any forks of evolution, today it is a given! Unfortunately, this fact plays into the hands of the Anglo-Saxons, with their pragmatic philosophy about people-atoms, and for our Slavic community of culture - the destruction of centuries-old foundations! They started to ruin them even under Gorbachev, and this is another step ... As for education, it is wonderful with its conservatism and not with innovations - it’s true that few of the leaders of our education, since 1991, understand this! And there is one more point - outstanding teachers Makarenko, Sukhomlinsky said that education, especially at the initial stage, is always a compulsion! And through an electronic mailbox, how do you force a child - naturally, he’d better play a toy than he would do ... And where to put the charisma of the teacher - because it doesn’t exist on the computer, which means there is neither an educational component, nor a personal influence ... Remote education , should not be instead, but with the traditional! Then it will be right and for the good!
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 07: 57 New
        -3
        Again these fabulous ravings about the Anglo-Saxons. Tell me, a fighter with the Anglo-Saxons, are Obama and Colin Powell the Anglo-Saxons?
        1. Finches
          Finches 30 June 2020 08: 19 New
          +8
          I don’t really want to answer you, because, my friend, you, hamlo ... Talking about the colonial ideology, the millstones of the Reformation, the protests and Adam Smith doesn’t make the same sense ... so let my nonsense about Anglo-Saxons not bother you! On the topic of this article, have something to say?
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 10: 13 New
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            So you brought this set of historical facts and what's the point if you have the wrong conclusions?
          2. Kronos
            Kronos 30 June 2020 10: 16 New
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            Just education from century to century has changed the form and methods of learning
          3. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 11: 13 New
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            What can I say? Everything is bad, distance education will undoubtedly ruin Russia. laughing
        2. alone
          alone 30 June 2020 10: 44 New
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          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Obama and Colin Powell are they Anglo-Saxons?

          They are saxoangles wassat wassat
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 30 June 2020 10: 52 New
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          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Obama and Colin Powell are they Anglo-Saxons?

          they are representatives of this particular culture and civilization
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 11: 11 New
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            In general, it’s clear. Negro-Saxons.
      2. Tatyana
        Tatyana 30 June 2020 08: 37 New
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        Quote: Finches
        As far as education is concerned, it is beautiful with its conservatism, and not with innovations - it’s true that few of the leaders of our education, since 1991, understand this!

        On the contrary, the pro-Western colonial administration in the Russian Federation since 1991 understands everything and acts precisely in the interests of its beloved Soros and the IMF (US Federal Reserve System) educational "market" technologies.

        G. Gref: Education is only for the elite. • May 19, 2017]
        1. Finches
          Finches 30 June 2020 09: 06 New
          +2
          Tatyana hi I think that is exactly what I had in mind! Pulling alien to our Slavic mentality, the classical Russian school of Western or in my expression the Anglo-Saxon model of education!
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 30 June 2020 10: 08 New
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            Eugene! hi In Russia, in general, education is not even slipping into the Anglo-Saxon model, but much worse — into the colonial-Anglo-Saxon model for third world countries!
            That’s where I am complementing you and what I am bringing to your attention! Namely.

            Education in the Russian Federation disguised as government regulated and reformed under the influence of the pro-American financial corporatocracywhich puts on stream a broad digitalization in the country, and not just education.
            И a prominent representative of this comprador financial corporatocracy in the Russian Federation isin particular Head of Sberbank of the Russian Federation G. Gref. Gref is lobbying in Russia total distance education, having essentially nothing to do with it!

            Until recently, Sberbank of the Russian Federation was a shareholder of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.
            Now the Russian government has bought Sberbank of the Russian Federation from the Central Bank of Russia.

            It is with such bankers and banks and their impact on educational reforms in the Russian Federation that we must deal with!
            And this requires an appropriate amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation / Russia, according to which the Central Bank of Russia is DEMAGologically separated from the state! However there is no such amendment in the current amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
            And this is a PLEDGE of the fact that NOTHING will properly change in education - and everything will continue in the same direction WRITTEN for Russia.

            Who owns the Central Bank of Russia. •18 Dec 2016
          2. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 11: 23 New
            -8
            Do you propose to preserve society tightly? Well, only then will you get stagnation and a catastrophic lag from other countries.
      3. Machito
        Machito 30 June 2020 10: 11 New
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        Distance education will create a generation of stupid people unable to think and solve problems without a computer and the Internet. They are very easy to manage: to bind everyone to digital accounts in public services, and voila, the digital slave biorobot is ready. The account is disabled and everything, the robot is off.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 12: 11 New
          -6
          According to your logic, everyone who works in IT is stupid people who are not able to think of solving problems. laughing
          1. Machito
            Machito 30 June 2020 14: 50 New
            0
            A person is made a prefix to the phone, unable to use their own memory and solve problems in their head, and not on the computer. He disconnected his phone with the Internet and he becomes dumb, like a traffic jam.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 17: 27 New
              -4
              Take my word for it, it is not the telephone and the Internet that makes a person stupid at all, but a reluctance to learn something.
              1. Machito
                Machito 30 June 2020 21: 50 New
                +1
                I believe, but children, like a blank sheet of paper, as you teach them, so they will live. And if they can write off the solution from the computer and send it electronically, then they will do so and go on to play their computer games further. All this I observed with my friends this spring. Many parents cannot solve the problems of the third class without a calculator (it is also difficult for me to divide 1 into 235, although I solved the problems well in higher mathematics), they look at the websites of the problem books to check the results of their children. Children see this and do the same, solve problems in the problem solving and transfer the result to the test program, and get fives. And knowledge is zero. With this e-learning, we will be left without schools and without teachers, and children will be taught by parents, who, as they can, to the best of their mental abilities. And what is the result? As a result, we return to the 453th century. Lenin made people literate, Putin makes them illiterate electronic slaves.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 20: 39 New
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            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            all who work in IT are stupid people who are not able to think of solving problems.

            Work in IT, or just use it?
      4. NordUral
        NordUral 30 June 2020 12: 04 New
        +2
        Remote education should not be instead, but along with the traditional! Then it will be right and for the good!

        And equally for All children of Russia!
        1. Finches
          Finches 30 June 2020 13: 10 New
          +2
          You can’t even argue with that! I would add - free for EVERYONE!
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 30 June 2020 13: 15 New
            0
            The correct addition, I missed it. Evgeny! And these do not argue, they just want to crank it with a quiet glanders.
          2. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 1 July 2020 08: 33 New
            -2
            I don’t even know what to laugh or sob while reading these naive arguments of the petty bourgeoisie with the remnants of a soviet mentality. For 30 years now we have been going along the same tracks and in the same direction where the whole capitalist world is going. But lovers of pink glasses still dream of free education in medicine and generally happiness for everyone. laughing
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 30 June 2020 07: 20 New
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      "Remote" tutoring for preparation for the Unified State Exam is not the first year. Head office in Moscow. They also offer local specialized teachers to cooperate through them as an intermediary. Hourly wages are on average 400-500 re. in an hour. If the state undertakes the function of distance learning, full-time education will be paid, and schools will be private.
      1. alma
        alma 30 June 2020 07: 49 New
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        Quote: siberalt
        If the state takes over the distance learning function, then full-time education will be paid, and schools will be private.

        I have two out of four now at school. We studied self-isolation through YaKlass. Teachers warned that from May the resource will be paid. I don’t know whether they did it or not - mine finished ahead of schedule and I sent them to the village. So, online learning our state would also like to see paid.
        And one more thing: such training took a lot of time from me. It’s good that I work for myself.
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 30 June 2020 12: 07 New
        0
        Oleg! They do not want children to study. They will attach theirs for the cordons, and the lower ones (ours) - in skype and other networks. And about the fact that the Network will not withstand such a load, even if they bother to create a working platform (and they will only create it on a TV), they are modestly silent.
        Already, the Internet has sunk, though not until the shutdown.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 12: 13 New
          -5
          Chot weakly pump, it is necessary stronger. laughing Let's not talk about IT at all. Well, you do not understand the question from the word at all.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 30 June 2020 12: 14 New
            -1
            Why are you nervous then, Makar?
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 12: 26 New
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              I care about the future of mankind. I’m looking at you, those who don’t go for future education, and I’m completely sad and are getting more and more bad feelings about me. laughing
              1. Mityasha
                Mityasha 30 June 2020 19: 16 New
                +5
                I have two small schoolchildren, 4th and 1st grade. For such an education on a remote site you need soulless robots. Teachers do not work with children on a remote place; they were generally driven under the floor with signs from above what to do. And the people who do these instructions about pedagogy only heard somewhere. For children, the udalenka, especially the elementary grades, was stressful with all the consequences and nervous breakdowns. And who still does not have Internet, not to mention computers? The school has ceased to be a school due to adopted resolutions and programs. Teachers have the formula: we give 10%, and the rest should be PARENTS. Convenient, isn't it? Stop looking to the west, they are happy to accept our Soviet system, and with us with all sorts of grefs and other questions ... ministers we stupid our children with our silence and unwillingness to declare a firm no!
          2. Mityasha
            Mityasha 30 June 2020 19: 19 New
            +3
            Yes, here the forum users do not understand anything at all, not in pension reform, not in a referendum, the results of which do not affect the decision in any way. laughing What nonsense are you talking about! The performance of all children is different, and teachers have been created to work with children, WITH EVERYTHING. And not on blue screens.
    5. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 June 2020 07: 32 New
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      Quote: Dead Day
      distance education, distance work ... logical continuation: distance service in the army, distance family. and so on ... creepy, I do not want to live in such a world.

      Of course it's nonsense, my son is studying at the Kaliningrad Technical University, so 3 months on this distance learning program, during this time he completed two written works, and at the end of the examination, the whole course was given "excellent", the rest of the exams were generally set based on the test results. In general, the semester has gone to waste.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 08: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        during this time he completed two written works

        What is it like? Wrote and faxed?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 30 June 2020 10: 35 New
          +1
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          What is it like? Wrote and faxed?

          I have not seen FAX for more than 20 years, Via Email, and Skype. Consultations were on Skype.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 20: 29 New
            +1
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Via Email and Skype. Consultations were on Skype.

            That is, did not write, but printed?
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 30 June 2020 22: 53 New
              +1
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              That is, did not write, but printed?

              Would you look at how they write, my handwriting is not a gift, but from my son, I read and do not understand. Soon, the times of writing will go into oblivion.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 00: 42 New
                +1
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Soon, the times of writing will go into oblivion.

                But what about signing drawings? Where, what detail? No.
    6. New Year day
      New Year day 30 June 2020 08: 43 New
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      Quote: Dead Day
      distance education, distance work ...

      all this nonsense! In the box they said that in the room the distance between the beds was at least 1.5 m. But in life, as they stood side by side, they still stand. They reduced the beds, if this requirement is fulfilled, then minus the beds. There are still more patients than beds
    7. Civil
      Civil 30 June 2020 10: 02 New
      +7
      The digitalization of education, work, medicine is the lot of the poor:
      1. According to studies, dChildren who spend a lot of time in front of the screen are lagging behind in development. Some have premature thinning of the cerebral cortex. In one study in adults, a relationship was found between screen time and depression.
      2. "You are poor if your doctor advises you on the Internet, and not in person. Poor if your children study online, not with offline teachers. Poor if you buy goods online, and not in a beautiful store in the city center. The fact that the wealthy prefer old-fashioned tutors, personal trainers, and chefs over Coursera or the delivery of food via smarfton is no secret. If you still receive services from living people or have the opportunity to communicate with them, then most likely you are a representative of the new elitewhose prestigious consumption lies in the abandonment of digital services in favor of offline ".
      3. The rich want their children to play with dice, and not sit in front of the screen. People are more expensive, and rich people are willing to pay for it. Human interaction, life without a phone during the day, exit from social networks and lack of response to e-mail - now this is a status symbol.

      And for us ordinary citizens - solid numeral. Electronic collar.
      1. Astra wild
        Astra wild 30 June 2020 12: 59 New
        +1
        "poor if you buy goods online" the latter is debatable. For example, I have an acquaintance, my husband is the director of a large supermarket, a father from the new latifundists. They order clothes for themselves on the Internet, but from Italy and America, and not from China
    8. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 30 June 2020 10: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: Dead Day
      remote family. and so on ... creepy

      distance funeral and commemoration, something similar was described in one of his works Isaac Asimov
      1. depressant
        depressant 30 June 2020 13: 06 New
        +6
        A child who is taught only remotely due to the fact that his parents belong to the conventional "common people" will never acquire sufficient skills of correct social behavior in a large group of people like him. He will never learn to eagerly seek benefits common to everyone, not just himself. In case of urgent need, he will be unable to adequately lead himself, or to choose a worthy leader in his social environment, and he will not be able to get into another, higher "caste" by definition. Perhaps in the role of a footman. Depending on the degree of natural extroversion and empathy, such a person, again, in case of urgent need, will be forced to spend significant mental efforts to overcome the habit of disunity brought up from childhood, and it is not a fact that he wants to do this. He will wave his hand and say: "It all went like a forest!"
        In other words, the value of collectivism as its own protective environment for it will be significantly reduced, or reduced to a small value. And the value of peace of self will force him to adapt to adverse conditions, and not to resist them.
        And all these consequences of the implanted distancing are exactly what our government has conceived to bring up in future generations. Disunity, people's lack of desire to solve problems by joint actions, self-realization in the human mind of the imperious slogan "Don't get together for more than three!", Fueling the hope of the authorities for the complete prevention of uprisings against the injustice it perpetrates ...
        You say exaggerate? Maybe. But only slightly.
    9. smart ass
      smart ass 30 June 2020 20: 40 New
      +1
      It is beneficial for the state to produce stupid slaves, the main thing is to consume and work.
  2. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 30 June 2020 05: 42 New
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    The Overton window opens. What was considered unacceptable becomes possible, passes into the ordinary, being transformed into mandatory. It seems that this will be the case with distance education. This is what the savings will be on teachers and educational institutions. The fodder base for officials will expand. So there should be distance education, despite all the protests and the lack of a future for the country.
    1. qQQQ
      qQQQ 30 June 2020 09: 20 New
      +4
      Quote: Mikhail M
      This is what the savings will be on teachers and educational institutions. The fodder base for officials will expand. So there should be distance education, despite all the protests and the lack of a future for the country.

      I support, first of all, the economy. Now education for the state is flying a penny, and with distance learning it will also bring profits, but we don’t need smart people, they take little loans, they think when voting, etc., in general, there are some problems with a good education.
    2. NIKN
      NIKN 30 June 2020 10: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: Mikhail M
      lack of future for the country.

      Fearfully. They have been trying to lead us to this for a long time, they started with the reform of education .. Here the starting point begins, it is determined what will happen to the country ... This is a weapon on the orders! more powerful than nuclear.
      PS: Ukraine marks further, there they’re already offering the poor to sterilize ...
    3. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 30 June 2020 10: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: Mikhail M
      This is what the savings will be on teachers and educational institutions.

      Yes, almost none. Last year, about 4.5% of the budget was spent on education. The figure almost completely coincides with the financing of the Ministry of Education in 1913. Fun fact. True? yes
      So ... Razorova ... I’m sorry, everything that is possible has already been saved. yes
    4. Astra wild
      Astra wild 30 June 2020 12: 32 New
      +2
      Mikhail, I, like you, studied at a Soviet school and am proud of it, but I doubt that distance learning will be ubiquitous and the author says about it: "exclusively an auxiliary function in the educational process"
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      2. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 30 June 2020 14: 03 New
        -1
        That is the meanness of the Overton window that changes occur in small, inconspicuous steps. And exclusively auxiliary function imperceptibly becomes the main, the impossible earlier becomes ordinary. As an example, I can give gay parades, juvenile justice ... You can read about it here: https://proshuslovo.ru/podsoznanie-cheloveka/okno-overtona.html
  3. samarin1969
    samarin1969 30 June 2020 06: 15 New
    15
    A lot of lies are written about education. Even at the legislative level. All politicians, journalists, officials are "terribly far" from the realities of the school. In this sense, Mr. Fedorov put it in places believable. "Remote control" is really efficient as a temporary "spare tire".
    The problems of the "digital educational environment" are different: there are no technical conditions (expensive!), No educational digital product (90% - complete nonsense!), No motivation for children (this is the MAIN problem !!!).

    ps Education in the Russian Federation has long been "virtual". The directors are guaranteed to give out certificates to EVERYONE and prepare reports on 100% progress. Most children and parents also "play school": download, buy "knowledge" ... "Number" will not change anything. Self-organized units will learn on their own, and the "bulk" will continue to carelessly "do nothing." RF, not China, education has no value.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 June 2020 07: 40 New
      +8
      Quote: samarin1969
      In this sense, Mr. Fedorov put it in places believable. "Remote control" is really efficient as a temporary "spare tire".

      It is temporary. I look at my son, he is studying at KTI, where in the 70s I studied in absentia at the ichthyology department, then at the session I constantly had laboratory work in all kinds of chemistry, geodesy, zoology and even botany, a lot of tests, term papers with protection, I’m not talking about exams. So the correspondence system was many times higher than this distance, on which he simply sat for 3 months.
    2. qQQQ
      qQQQ 30 June 2020 09: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: samarin1969
      Most children and parents also "play school": download, buy "knowledge" ... "Number" will not change anything. Self-organized units will learn on their own, and the "bulk" will continue to carelessly "do nothing."

      Basically I agree, but no distance will give such a wide range of knowledge, everything will come down to a narrow specialization, and even those who wish to study will be guaranteed to lose. As it has already been written here, that school is also communication, and there is no other way to teach it. Children now sit more at home, and there will generally be something beyond. We get a generation of ignorant and socially unadapted people, in general, everything goes to dystopia.
    3. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 30 June 2020 11: 11 New
      -4
      Are you related to school? Are you a director. Issuing 100% certificates?
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 30 June 2020 13: 08 New
        +4
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        Are you related to school? Are you a director. Issuing 100% certificates?


        Director to be unworthy. Just a history teacher. laughing
        1. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 1 July 2020 11: 47 New
          0
          Well, since the teacher should know that if the exam didn’t pass, then this certificate was released this year for well-known reasons, although you don’t want to go to college for this reason, I personally like why the unstable psyche is subjected to stress again
  4. Egoza
    Egoza 30 June 2020 06: 26 New
    16
    What a nightmare! This "education" will completely destroy literacy and child development! I understand that if there is no school in the village and you have to travel 10-15 km in severe frost, and the school bus (or transport in general) is frozen, then some of the classes can be conducted remotely. But completely switch to THIS? !!!! I am a teacher myself, and I also have schoolchildren. How worried they were with this distance! I am silent about the parents. All day long they just write "who, where, when and what to look for." Because the teachers (certainly not all), but lay out their paws, do not really explain anything. Gave a task and walk Vasya!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 June 2020 07: 44 New
      +9
      Quote: Egoza
      Because the teachers (certainly not all), but the legs are laid out, plainly do not explain anything. Gave the task and walk Vasya!

      Disregarding approach to business, relaxed, nothing needs to be done, and the salary is paid. Likewise, doctors, there is no appointment yet, we will give you advice by phone and Skype. My mother-in-law is 92 years old, she has a lot of pain, and treatment with consultations, and to the question "put in the hospital" the answer is "tests are needed."
    2. Boris55
      Boris55 30 June 2020 08: 20 New
      -4
      Quote: Egoza
      What a nightmare! This "education" will completely destroy literacy and child development!

      This is how to learn. You can ask the teacher what was asked, or you can listen to students' questions on a given topic and answer the teacher. The second method is better for both forms of learning and all the more necessary for distance learning. The first method of learning for distance learning is not suitable at all, and if that is so, then it will really be a nightmare.
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 30 June 2020 08: 47 New
      10
      Quote: Egoza
      This "education" will completely destroy literacy and child development!

      but is such a goal in power? Obedient mass is needed, which will have no questions to the authorities
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 30 June 2020 09: 07 New
        -2
        Quote: Silvestr
        but is such a goal in power?

        What do you think, why does the government generally educate the people?

        There was agrarian Russia, 3 church parish classes were enough. With these three classes it was not possible to carry out industrialization. It was necessary to transfer the people to a new level of education, so that the people could build and master ... and this was done.

        In general, the country's competitiveness in the world is determined by the level of education of its citizens.

        It is necessary to change the approach to learning. It is simply not possible to focus on simple memorization, at least not by the volume of information available to each of us, but to teach students in this sea of ​​data to correctly formulate questions, not be afraid to ask them and look for answers with the help of a teacher and yourself. Only with this approach, the teacher will really be a teacher, not a supervisor, strictly asking for a given task.

        Remember how you taught your children before school. Does this look like what the school does? And what is the disappointment of small creatures when they get this instead of the joy of knowledge ....
  5. codetalker
    codetalker 30 June 2020 06: 26 New
    10
    I work at the University. They announced that in September we will begin the academic year in person (if there is no exacerbation of the epidemic), but 25% of the workload must be transferred to "distance learning". They came up with a way out of the situation: transfer all foreigners to the remote (it turns out about 25%). Of course, it will hit the external reputation of the university, but its students are more important.
    At the very beginning of quarantine, the rector with a smile from ear to ear announced: “The quarantine will end, and the distance will remain in 100% mode”
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 June 2020 07: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: codetalker
      At the very beginning of quarantine, the rector with a smile from ear to ear announced: “The quarantine will end, and the distance will remain in 100% mode”

      So it's better to transfer everyone to distance learning, a system worked out for decades. How many areas will be free, and how many different methodologists, laboratory assistants, managers and other "idiots" can be reduced.
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 30 June 2020 12: 25 New
        0
        We abandoned distance learning for a long time (recognized as ineffective form). A remote, please ...
  6. mag nit
    mag nit 30 June 2020 06: 29 New
    12
    Medveputics decided to finally finish their education.
  7. nikvic46
    nikvic46 30 June 2020 06: 31 New
    17
    There are too many questions. The home conditions are not taken into account. In theory, everyone is leveled. But what about the junior schoolchildren? They will knock numbers and letters on the keyboard, without learning how to write them on paper. Of course, the savings are big. On schools, desks, laboratories. During self-isolation, something appeared in the form of an anecdote. "It's good to look after the girl now. No restaurants, no theaters." All this euphoria will pass. When they see how many children have moved away from normal life. This is for me, an old man, to sit and knock on the keyboard. And children without live communication, like flowers, will simply wither.
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 30 June 2020 06: 33 New
    +7
    Parents are horrified at what will happen with distance learning if there are two, three or four schoolchildren in the family. To each - a separate computer and a training room ?!

    Obvious and probable !!! Well, I really do not want to survive this madhouse, all the more to participate in it!
  9. Hagen
    Hagen 30 June 2020 06: 35 New
    -3
    In our localities, schoolchildren traditionally in different years lose from a week to a month and a half months of full-time school passes under weather conditions. The accumulation of experience in conducting classes in a remote mode, as a necessary measure, I think, is a quite adequate way to compensate for problems caused by climatic conditions. The position of the Ministry of Education on this subject was announced not so long ago - there will be no mass transfer of secondary and higher education to the remote method. If we talk about the remote method of continuing education, we tested it. He gave good results. Subjects in which my child was engaged in the distance. courses, gave up with results above 95 points. And those who are rocking a tantrum, think, a fading pandemic (not the fact that it will completely fade) is clearly not a unique case, a repetition is possible. And it does not depend on our desires.
    1. qQQQ
      qQQQ 30 June 2020 09: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: Hagen
      The position of the Ministry of Education on this subject was announced not so long ago - there will be no mass transfer of secondary and higher education to the remote method. If we talk about the remote method of continuing education, we tested it. He gave good results. Subjects in which my child was engaged in the distance. courses, gave up with results above 95 points. And those who are rocking a tantrum, think, a fading pandemic (not the fact that it will completely fade) is clearly not a unique case, a repetition is possible. And it does not depend on our desires.

      The key word is additional education. The transition to distance learning will certainly be very beneficial from all sides. Losses in this "pandemic" do not exceed deaths from other infections, and to pay for this by a completely degraded generation (or even more than one) for the sake of enriching a small handful of officials is too much.
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 30 June 2020 10: 42 New
        -2
        Quote: qqqq
        The transition to distance learning will definitely be

        Prove ... Have you already given the command .....?
        1. qQQQ
          qQQQ 30 June 2020 14: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: Hagen
          Prove ... Have you already given the command .....?

          In a world where everything is decided by money, it cannot be otherwise. Classical education is too expensive for the state, and smart people are not particularly needed.
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 30 June 2020 16: 23 New
            -1
            Quote: qqqq
            In a world where everything is decided by money, it cannot be otherwise. Classical education is too expensive for the state, and smart people are not particularly needed.

            These are your conjectures ... Unconfirmed. You correctly represent yourself as the last and most fervent fighter for the needs of the country. Not that there are all sorts of officials who dream of selling, betraying and drinking the blood of all babies! laughing They are all rascals, only you have endowed yourself with all worthy qualities ...
            1. qQQQ
              qQQQ 1 July 2020 09: 22 New
              0
              Quote: Hagen
              These are your speculations ...

              Maybe speculation, but they have quite good. I didn’t even stutter about my qualities, so there’s no need to think up. Moreover, I was taught at school that everything should have a material basis, and so my version has it in the form of the material benefit of the state and specific officials, but yours - nothing but empty slogans.
              1. Hagen
                Hagen 1 July 2020 13: 14 New
                0
                Quote: qqqq
                Maybe speculation, but they have quite good

                So what is "weighty" your speculation? Not very clear.
                Quote: qqqq
                I didn’t even stutter about my qualities, so don’t have to invent

                Your qualities do not need to stutter about them. They follow from your statements.
                Quote: qqqq
                my version has it in the form of material benefits of the state and specific officials

                Well, list these officials if they are specific. Who exactly benefits? It is generally more profitable for the state to pay a pension in the amount of PFR fees without budget transfers, but it nonetheless subsidizes a shortage of money in full. You are somewhere lost in your versions.
                Quote: qqqq
                but yours - apart from empty slogans - is nothing.

                But I don’t have slogans either. I give an example from my life, not guiding appeals. You, it seems to me, are working in the mode of generating random thoughts, writing phrases whose meaning you do not quite understand. Excuse me...
  10. mark2
    mark2 30 June 2020 06: 42 New
    +3
    But this topic is already more serious than "zeroing", on which most commentators are stuck here.
    Thanks to the author for the topic.
    And the lack of laboratory facilities is not the most difficult.
    Can you imagine how to teach first-graders remotely?
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 07: 38 New
      +7
      Quote: mark2
      laboratory management is not the most difficult.

      Of course not. For example, a tensile test. Buy a rope for your child, a dozen steelyards, bring a jack, hook hooks on a door jamb, a jack on a window frame, and let him, slammer, work with a lever, observing the readings of the steelyards until the rope bursts. And for experiments in chemistry, a moonshine is suitable, acid can be drained from the battery, and in general, the scope of fantasy is unlimited.
      Quote: mark2
      Can you imagine how to teach first-graders remotely?

      The main thing is to show the letters correctly, and he will find the rest on the Internet. laughing
      1. Skay
        Skay 30 June 2020 09: 49 New
        +1
        until the rope bursts.

        Not. Until the door through the window flies out.
  11. Gardamir
    Gardamir 30 June 2020 06: 42 New
    10
    Everyone is discussing distance learning. But you noticed that
    At least if by September a new wave of coronavirus infection does not unfold.
    They say 21st century business.
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 30 June 2020 08: 40 New
      +6
      The trouble is that most of us have a poor idea that the virus is not fiction. At first, I also doubted, then my acquaintance turned white, and everyone was sure that NOTHING would BECOME anything to her. 2 common friends died.
      If the virus had obvious signs like chickenpox or jaundice it would be easy, otherwise there are no obvious signs
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 30 June 2020 09: 33 New
        +1
        Of course, I agree with you, the virus exists, but ... But, with all my strength, the last years have optimized medicine, that is, they have destroyed it.
        Masks do not solve problems, and even worsen the condition of healthy people. The ban on being outdoors is criminal. Moreover, the pandemic was defeated by the Parade and the vote.
        Finally, almost nothing is known about the virus, but they are threatening the second wave.
      2. qQQQ
        qQQQ 30 June 2020 09: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: Astra wild
        The trouble is that most of us have a poor idea that the virus is not fiction.

        The trouble is that the majority of us have a very good idea of ​​what kind of leadership we have, and on their own skin more than once felt how to trust him, and hence the disbelief in this "pandemic".
  12. Million
    Million 30 June 2020 06: 54 New
    +9
    Just like Mikhalkov's in "Besogon". And not everyone will receive a good PERFECT education even for money.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 08: 08 New
      +3
      Every time I see this program, I have a question. If it is so called, why is it that everyone still will not kick Mikhalkov out of there?
  13. Sgt.
    Sgt. 30 June 2020 07: 01 New
    15
    Another nail in the lid .... of our education.
  14. Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 30 June 2020 07: 05 New
    +8
    Distance education is a factory of the ignorant.
    Then these Google employees will work and make decisions according to the recommendations of the Internet.

    Kapets .... We arrived.
  15. parusnik
    parusnik 30 June 2020 07: 12 New
    +7
    Hmm .. and so there was no education ....
  16. Doccor18
    Doccor18 30 June 2020 07: 21 New
    +4
    At the same time, a large-scale experiment of the Ministry of Education should create all the conditions in the regions for a full transition to distance learning

    And this experiment will be another way to completely kill school education in the country.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 30 June 2020 07: 51 New
      10
      Quote: Doccor18
      At the same time, a large-scale experiment of the Ministry of Education should create all the conditions in the regions for a full transition to distance learning

      And this experiment will be another way to completely kill school education in the country.

      here it is necessary to look at "shirshe", the very concept of "one people" is eliminated, as a result the "biomass" will be disunited, everyone will be dispersed in burrows. managing such "biomass" is easy and simple.
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 30 June 2020 08: 22 New
        +7
        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: Doccor18
        At the same time, a large-scale experiment of the Ministry of Education should create all the conditions in the regions for a full transition to distance learning

        And this experiment will be another way to completely kill school education in the country.

        here you need to watch "shirshe", eliminate the very concept of "one people", as a result, the "biomass" will be disunited, everyone will be dispersed in burrows. managing such "biomass" is easy and simple.

        hi Very good thought.
        No wonder concepts such as "school friend" or "school friend" characterized the warmest human relations and connections.
        1. akunin
          akunin 30 June 2020 09: 20 New
          0
          Quote: Freeman
          No wonder concepts such as "school friend" or "school friend" characterized the warmest human relations and connections.

          now children have their whole life on the phone (not life, but a "mail novel"), they will soon forget how to speak without a phone, I am not talking about sports at all (computer games). told a rather interesting case at the wedding, when the guests were already drunk and forgot about the "young", the bride in her phone, and the groom in his.
  17. Essex62
    Essex62 30 June 2020 07: 36 New
    +3
    It is not possible to expose children to the danger of disease; it is criminal to deprive them of communication and team spirit. If the authorities try to do this, it will be worse than the retirement age. This will affect everyone, not just those who are 50+. Let's see what happens
  18. Astra wild
    Astra wild 30 June 2020 07: 36 New
    +9
    I talked with a physicist I knew for 30 years, he says that distance is a godsend.
    The task is given, the students immediately find the answer and put it on the Internet, and the machine puts the marks. It is clear to a person that it takes time to record a lesson, and the machine does not understand this and puts a mark-5. Naturally, students like it.
    One of the colleagues correctly noted that the students have no motivation and they will upload.
    I remember my childhood. Then there was a pioneer organization and the "paravoz" was attached to the laggards, as we said. I myself was a "paravoz" and I know what it is. They assigned me to the lodar, and he didn't care about all the subjects except physical education. Once he drove me and I bit him
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 08: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: Astra wild
      lodar

      The pernicious effects of distance are already visible. Literacy of schoolchildren falls catastrophically. Not a lobster, but a lodger. What will happen next, I ask you ?!
      1. Old tanker
        Old tanker 30 June 2020 08: 31 New
        +2
        And the author has such errors. Looks like just in time for "steam", instead of steam what
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 08: 36 New
        +4
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        Not a lobster, but a lodger.

        Dahl has both a loafer and a loafer.
      3. Phil77
        Phil77 30 June 2020 13: 15 New
        0
        laughing laughing laughing !!!!!!!
        Thanks for the minute of laughter!
    2. Free wind
      Free wind 30 June 2020 09: 19 New
      +2
      The task is given, on the last pages of the textbook, the last 20 years give solutions and answers. Well, about the pushers of locomotives, it was. Somehow the girl pulled me up in singing and Russian, and I in math. Mother choked on her, otherwise we would have pulled ourselves up. And how did you bite him? love
      1. Astra wild
        Astra wild 30 June 2020 12: 12 New
        +3
        He didn’t want to teach Pushkin point-blank, I asked him and said that the spot was pressing on the whole class and on consciousness, and he laughed. All the same, they will put me 4: the director needs a good athlete, and they will scold you at the advice of the detachment, which did not fulfill the pioneer order. I freaked out and bit his ear.
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 30 June 2020 12: 40 New
          +1
          A good word and Colt are more convincing than just a good word. A rolling pin would have been wrapped around the head, and then a kind word. An evil viper bit him, and he accepted death from his horse. By chance, didn't Tyson learn to bite you? The child has a trauma for life, the first experience of communication with the girl and is so unsuccessful, at the word Pushkin he will instinctively click under the table. wassat
        2. Phil77
          Phil77 30 June 2020 13: 18 New
          0
          Quote: Astra wild
          bit his ear.

          I care about the fate of the ear, further. Or ....? Kirdyk ear? laughing laughing laughing
  19. 3vs
    3vs 30 June 2020 07: 44 New
    +6
    The model of the digital educational environment is just an exception!
    If a child is unable to attend classes in school full-time due to illness, whether at home,
    in the hospital, this is exactly what you need.
    You need to broadcast classes in your class and feedback from the teacher so that you can answer oral questions and pass some written assignments for verification.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 30 June 2020 08: 56 New
      +2
      You need to broadcast classes in your class and feedback from the teacher so that you can answer oral questions and pass some written assignments for verification.

      What country do you live in? When the 4th quarter of the children completed their studies remotely, for a few hours they could not even go to the educational mite. And after 18.00 it was impossible to watch the homework, everything just "hung up tightly".
      To make a modern distance education program, our budget saws will need 20 years, no less.
    2. akunin
      akunin 30 June 2020 09: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: 3vs
      If a child is unable to attend classes in school full-time due to illness, whether at home,
      in the hospital, this is exactly what you need.

      in the nineties he worked part-time in the department of senior childhood in a city hospital (there was no Internet), teachers from the surrounding schools went and all the children became "excellent" and "good" (especially those who lay for a long time).
  20. Junior Warrant Officer
    Junior Warrant Officer 30 June 2020 07: 47 New
    +9
    And at the age of 18, a distantly trained young man will go to give full-time military duty to his homeland ... And then a monkey with a grenade will become something real and quite tangible.
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 30 June 2020 08: 21 New
      +3
      So the platform for online service this year marks 10 years)) Potato tank troops soldier
    2. aglet
      aglet 30 June 2020 12: 27 New
      +1
      "a person will go to pay full-time military duty to the homeland"
      by then the army online will be
  21. nikvic46
    nikvic46 30 June 2020 08: 11 New
    +3
    Studying on a remote site, working on a remote site. But what in reality? After all, it’s known that you won’t even bake a roll on a remote site. You don’t want to, but you will have to contact in training. Otherwise, both the surgeon and the teacher will leave the training as theoreticians.
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 30 June 2020 09: 08 New
      0
      Remote-controlled surgical are and are used.
      1. cniza
        cniza 30 June 2020 17: 24 New
        +1
        After he is already trained, you can consult and improve your qualifications ...
      2. nikvic46
        nikvic46 30 June 2020 17: 33 New
        0
        Alexander. Not from the apartment the patient is being cut.
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 30 June 2020 17: 44 New
          0
          In principle, this is possible. Man is not capable of some subtlest actions. Therefore, with a huge increase, the operation is performed by manipulators, through the control panel. A lot of things can happen in surgery.
          1. nikvic46
            nikvic46 30 June 2020 18: 00 New
            0
            Alexander. Surgery needs experienced specialists. My sister's husband used to say in Soviet times: “Many of our surgeons had to go through the skillful hands circle before. Continuous cuts.” After operations, he himself was engaged in woodcarving. Good hands. Well, what is possible in the future, I agree with you. Only experienced specialists should operate manipulators.
  22. Old tanker
    Old tanker 30 June 2020 08: 27 New
    +4
    Dulling the population is the goal of the current government. A few years ago, institutes that taught distance education and issued diplomas to the ignorant persistently eliminated. But now they rumored to see that an ignoramus in leadership work is an excellent executor of any will of his superiors, even harmful and destructive for the organization itself.
  23. Sailor
    Sailor 30 June 2020 08: 32 New
    +5
    Another and the biggest nail in the coffin lid of the once best education in the world! On the example of acquaintances, I see how children are studying at home now. This will be a generation!
  24. akunin
    akunin 30 June 2020 09: 03 New
    +7
    I don’t believe in distance education. You can’t teach a person to work with your hands via the Internet, you can’t check the nuances (how to teach dental technicians?). Interestingly, Losers (not the ability to learn) most of all suffered from the "distance learning", but the very juice of distance exams.
    1. Romey
      Romey 30 June 2020 12: 28 New
      +4
      Colleague, you are not quite right. The successful students, who did not receive the knowledge they needed, lost exactly. Practice shows that most losers and their parents do not want this knowledge. In Soviet times, after the 8th grade, they gave a certificate to their teeth and, with a clear conscience, sent to work with their hands in the national economy, due to the lack of desire to work with their heads. Now this is impossible and the administration is biting teachers for providing low-quality educational services. Failure by such a character of the OGE is fraught for the teacher with at least a nervous breakdown. I have a wife, I almost danced with joy when this year they issued certificates for current performance ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 30 June 2020 16: 32 New
        +2
        It is necessary to return the good, old education system and not be wise.
      2. Kostya Lavinyukov
        Kostya Lavinyukov 30 June 2020 18: 53 New
        0
        Why do you think that the student will not receive any knowledge due to the transition to distance learning?
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 21: 06 New
          0
          Quote: Kostya Lavinyukov
          that the student will not receive any knowledge due to the transition to distance learning?

          Does he need this?
          1. Kostya Lavinyukov
            Kostya Lavinyukov 30 June 2020 23: 49 New
            -1
            Education is voluntary. If a person does not want to learn, why teach him?
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 00: 38 New
              0
              Quote: Kostya Lavinyukov
              If a person does not want to learn, why teach him?

              I don’t remember a single kid who would like to study.
      3. akunin
        akunin 2 July 2020 07: 55 New
        0
        dear, I do not argue, I just judge from my bell tower (I don’t know how everything happens at school) - the medical training unit. College students must have practical skills (hands must be "put"), and their remote acquisition is not possible. hi
    2. cniza
      cniza 30 June 2020 16: 32 New
      +3
      Well, this is how to communicate with a woman on the phone and expect a child from her.
      1. akunin
        akunin 2 July 2020 07: 56 New
        +1
        +100500 you can’t say better.
  25. Free wind
    Free wind 30 June 2020 09: 04 New
    0
    in the USSR every morning, on the radio and on television, gymnastics was played. So then boys and girls should be Hollywood movie heroes. But in reality, I only saw a movie a couple of times, as a particularly advanced Komsomol member, a pioneer engaged in distance gymnastics. Although somewhere it is needed. And plus huge opportunities for self-education.
    1. cniza
      cniza 30 June 2020 16: 30 New
      +1
      School and live communication can not be replaced with anything, and sitting at a computer is a murder for children.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 21: 09 New
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      Quote: Free Wind
      But in reality, I only saw a movie a couple of times, as a particularly advanced Komsomol member, a pioneer engaged in distance gymnastics.

      My sister was engaged. crying
  26. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 30 June 2020 10: 45 New
    +2
    The news of the transfer of the school from the new school year to distance education over the past few weeks has been repeatedly relayed by Internet resources.
    if this is true, then it is either IDIOTISM or betrayal and treason
    1. cniza
      cniza 30 June 2020 16: 29 New
      +3
      It used to be called sabotage, but now it's all together ...
  27. Free wind
    Free wind 30 June 2020 11: 09 New
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    To advance through life, you need a shaggy hand for support. The girl in the photo will be fine. His hands are very overgrown for this age.
  28. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 30 June 2020 11: 29 New
    +2
    They are trying to reduce the number of schools and teachers in general. Everything is like with outpatient clinics) From afar all these projections are visible ..
  29. NordUral
    NordUral 30 June 2020 12: 00 New
    +1
    Already the Unified State Examination does not suit these, the result of the final collapse of education and division into estates has not been achieved.
  30. Romey
    Romey 30 June 2020 12: 09 New
    +3
    Well, gentlemen, apparently another bright victory. I’m at war with children in order to minimize their communication with computers and gadgets so that their physical and moral health does not suffer, and then my native state decided to organize another sabotage. And according to the law of meanness, as usual, the Kaliningrad region, again a pilot, their mother, region ... Are we extreme or lost in cards?
    1. cniza
      cniza 30 June 2020 16: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: romey
      And according to the law of meanness, as usual, the Kaliningrad region, again a pilot, their mother, region ... Are we extreme or lost in cards?


      Well, not only your region, but I think the mind will win and the experiment will not be conducted.
  31. 1536
    1536 30 June 2020 15: 17 New
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    You should always ask the question: "Who benefits from this?" But in the case of education, it is not beneficial to anyone. Neither parents who will have to leave their children at home when they themselves are at work, nor teachers who will lose their teaching skills, nor education managers, since then all these education departments will have to be closed. This is not beneficial even for programmers, because the proposed system is not closed, and therefore, according to the theory of computer science, it is unstable to various kinds of failures, external or internal influences. There is no need to talk about the children themselves. One hope is that after some time, due to lack of education, no one will have such crazy ideas, which in addition someone will undertake to implement. And common sense in a person will prevail.
    There was such an anecdote at one time when scientists or politicians were asked who organized the "perestroika". The answer was: "politicians, because scientists would first check on dogs." And again failure. I don't know of a single trainer, researcher or scientist who could interactively perform experiments on animals.
    1. cniza
      cniza 30 June 2020 16: 20 New
      +3
      The answer was: "politicians, because scientists would first check on dogs."


      I fully support you ...
  32. cniza
    cniza 30 June 2020 16: 19 New
    +2
    The bonus will be a complete lack of communication skills and health preservation. We can safely talk about the lost generation, which there is simply no one to replace in the future.


    No need to experiment on living people, if only temporarily and as ext. education and then not at school.
  33. Siberian54
    Siberian54 30 June 2020 16: 25 New
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    Distance education in 2020 is force majeure .. But it is necessary to use the most successful elements of online during regular outbreaks of flu. We have a decent percentage of students "under the flu" missing up to a month of classes.
  34. tank64rus
    tank64rus 30 June 2020 16: 31 New
    +1
    Distance learning cancels once and for all the most important criterion of education, after knowledge, namely the upbringing of a person. This is what optimizers strive for, who in their life have not spent more than one lesson or have not read more than one lecture. Soros is their king and god.
  35. bandabas
    bandabas 30 June 2020 19: 26 New
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    Maybe you don’t need to study at all? Vote For. The guarantor has more deputies. How many bears are there in the picture?
  36. Archon
    Archon 30 June 2020 22: 27 New
    +1
    schools in the form of boarding schools where children live all the time, more effective in terms of training and supervision, and this is definitely better than distance learning. Distance learning is better for students and independent people, rather than schoolchildren who are just starting to learn teaching skills.
  37. Stalllker
    Stalllker 30 June 2020 23: 03 New
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    This is nonsense, children are already far away
  38. And why do you need
    And why do you need 1 July 2020 01: 01 New
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    Education, here fades into the background, optimization in the content of schools is in the foreground. Sadly, this is a reality
  39. vavilon
    vavilon 1 July 2020 12: 27 New
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    What does this article have to do with Military Review?
  40. iouris
    iouris 1 July 2020 14: 10 New
    -1
    Education, medicine, work, life, happiness ... - they either exist or they do not. See for yourself.
  41. Alexander Yaroshenko
    Alexander Yaroshenko 3 July 2020 01: 33 New
    +1
    Yes, children will become even dumber and divorced from life and normal communication
  42. ruivit1988
    ruivit1988 3 July 2020 08: 03 New
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    In a word: "Minimum investment, maximum savings." Damn, I'm glad my wife today with this news. Well, in general, given the experience experienced with this distance school education, I can say the following. These online lessons were primarily not aimed at learning the timely delivery of training sessions. That is, in order to have time to hand over all tasks physically on time, all three of us "studied", I am a wife and a stepson. Those who did not study according to such a scheme, all in the flesh to the excellent students slipped into deuces and were simply left with a bunch of student debt. I already sometimes doubt the sanity of our statesmen.
  43. Plastmaster
    Plastmaster 4 July 2020 14: 14 New
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    Quote: raw174
    Quote: lonely
    And this is a program that will lead to the fact that there will be mass illiteracy in the country.

    And who said that it is planned to switch to remote control on an ongoing basis? One grandmother ??? My daughter went to the third grade, her school curriculum is more complicated than the one I studied in, more complex mathematics, first of all, and foreign language from the second grade ... I think that the more complex the program, the smarter the student . At the beginning of the school journey, I drew squares, now by the end of the first quarter they are already quite fluently writing and reading. According to our teacher, the program has become more complicated.

    And here I am, working in education. For 12 years, boys have been reading in syllables, who Hitler does not know. Not all of course. But now there will be almost everything.
  44. Plastmaster
    Plastmaster 4 July 2020 15: 43 New
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    Someone on top instead of brains, candy wrappers are green. And how do they like to humiliate people.
  45. alekSASHKA-36
    alekSASHKA-36 5 July 2020 12: 31 New
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    Smart ones are not needed, executive ones are needed!
  46. georggy
    georggy 10 July 2020 15: 44 New
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    From crisis to agony
  47. grumbler
    grumbler 12 July 2020 14: 10 New
    -1
    On Zyablitsov June 30, 2020 06:55 New
    "And for our Slavic community of culture - the destruction of age-old foundations! They began to destroy even under Gorbachev, and this is another step ..."


    In my opinion, the "destruction of age-old foundations" happened "a little earlier" than under Gorbachev. Actually, this is one of the reasons for the revolution of 1905-1920. A catastrophic fall in the authority of the church and royal power. Decomposition of the peasant community and a massive outflow of workers to the cities. Rampant drunkenness and immorality. "Slavic community culture" - the culture of the Russian Ancient, fell victim to the processes of Urbanization and Industrialization, the deep backwardness of the Russian political and economic system of Tsarist Russia, and short-sighted and half-hearted agrarian reforms. It seems that the Soviet times are forgotten, but remember the village writers - with what pain they wrote about the dying of the village, back in the "blessed", in our opinion, 60-70s. They saw that the "Slavic communal culture" fell victim to urbanization, collective farm "mismanagement" and a rigid administrative party and economic vertical. In my opinion, the above is enough to demonstrate that it is simply not realistic to blame Gorbachev and the Democrats for this.

    As for the "Anglo-Saxons", I just agree - we all live in PAX AMERICANA.
    The situation is very similar to Roman rule. And while the Empire is strong, it is almost useless to resist the "step of the legions", they will sweep away. But, as we know from history, empires collapse, but they leave behind Civilization. Rome has sunk into oblivion, but left Europe - Roads, Public Administration, Culture and Science.
    And for many centuries, Europe has been built around Roman institutions, Latin, and Roman Christianity.
    So today we also need to take Everything useful from the "new Rome". Learn English - this "new Latin". Develop Courage, Independence and Self-Discipline, Self-Organization and Mobility (goals set by the new "Finnish model" of education).
    Actively adopt the best personal and managerial practices. Not to repulse, but on the contrary - to implement in a controlled manner the "pragmatic philosophy of people-atoms". Indeed, atoms tend to aggregate into molecules / clusters / matter - the very communities, communities, Society. One of the strongest sides of Western Civilization is Self-Organization! Yesterday these were communities and parishes, workshops and artels. Then, private enterprises, firms. Clubs, scientific and charitable societies. Political parties and trade unions. Today this continues in the form of initiative groups in social networks, communes, start-ups and “digital artels” - coworking spaces. All these processes will take place on a "digital platform".
    To compete successfully (individually and as a country), you need to intuitively master modern information technologies: social networks, means of distance learning and labor (remote collaboration) and "sharing economy", etc. But this should not be treated as a certain cargo cult (which is typical for our "effective officials"), but as Tools that meet the needs of the "digital society" of the near future.

    For our country to be ready for this, our children must be ready for this. As a pandemic around the world has shown, the main problem was not only unequal access to the network and media equipment, but the lack of sustainable distance education skills among teachers and students. Low motivation of students, lack of self-discipline and self-control skills. And poor adaptation of training and control materials for networking. And this can be solved only by introducing the elements of distance learning and work into the everyday educational practice.

    At the expense of the excessive complexity and richness of the curriculum, I will quote from one forum:
    "There are two ways to leave a person illiterate - either not to teach at all, or to teach a lot."