Appeared data at voting on amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation


In the Russian Federation, voting continues to amend the Constitution of the country. Due to the need to take into account the adverse epidemiological situation, they decided not to limit this event to one day, but to carry out it from June 25 to July 1 inclusive.


Over the past five days, voter turnout was 28 percent. At the same time, almost 31 million people voted, including remotely. More than half of them (58 percent) cast their votes in specially designated polling stations. Another 39 percent chose to vote at the place of residence, that is, inside houses or apartments, as well as in the adjacent territory.

This is reported by the publication RIA News.

Also at this time in Moscow and the Nizhny Novgorod region there is a vote on amendments to the Constitution in electronic form. This opportunity has already taken advantage of 80 percent of voters who registered in advance. Out of more than 1 registered e-voting participants, the number of people casting their votes exceeded 190 thousand.

At the same time, the VTsIOM has already managed to present data not just about the voters, but about those who voted for the amendments. The statistics service claims that 76 percent of those who voted for amendments to the Basic Law, on the basis of some anonymous exit polls.
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  1. Sergei 777 29 June 2020 14: 16 New
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    The statistics service claims that 76 percent of those who voted in favor of amendments to the Basic Law.

    Uh ... strange to say the least.
    1. Looking Petrovich 29 June 2020 14: 20 New
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      Quote: Sergey 777
      The statistics service claims that 76 percent of those who voted in favor of amendments to the Basic Law.

      Uh ... strange to say the least.

      76% of them are so customary to draw. Edro in the Duma also has 76% of the seats, although no one votes for it.
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      2. Malyuta 29 June 2020 14: 43 New
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        Quote: Looking Petrovich
        76% of them are so customary to draw. Edro in the Duma also has 76% of the seats, although no one votes for it.

        76 + 76 = 152% !!! Where are you fools, where? It is necessary 146 wassat
        1. Alex777 29 June 2020 15: 12 New
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          76 + 76 = 152% !!! Where are you fools, where? It is necessary 146

          The article is not complete in terms of information.
          Sociologists paid for duralities could not resist publishing. negative
          Moreover, they only 70% agreed to answer their questions.
          You can goof around as much as you like, but you could turn your head on: to think why exactly the numbers do not beat you? lol
          1. Alex777 29 June 2020 15: 34 New
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            Sociologists paid for duralities could not resist publishing.

            The fact that "the survey customer did not mind publishing the results" - the head of VTsIOM himself said. Verbatim.
            1. military_cat 29 June 2020 15: 56 New
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              Those who throw in “results” - they know what they are doing. People tend to be conformists, and feel the urge to "join the majority," so those who are for will argue as "there are so many of ours, you have to go too, since everyone goes," and those who are "against" they’ll think, “Well, I’m in the minority, what’s the point of walking, if everyone wants Putin for another 20 years.” This is not a very noble psychic mechanism, but it exists, and political strategists skillfully use it. This is exactly the reason why it is forbidden to publish interim counting results before the end of voting, but now voting is bypassing any referendum laws.
              1. Alex777 29 June 2020 16: 04 New
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                I would not publish such crooked facts.
                76% for out of 70% who agreed to answer.
                As a result, the amendments are really in favor - a little more than 50%.
                And the presentation was such that a feeling formed - everyone had already decided and everything was predetermined. hi
                1. military_cat 29 June 2020 16: 05 New
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                  For the sake of filing, everything is done.
                  1. Doccor18 29 June 2020 17: 55 New
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                    For the sake of filing, everything is done.

                    Straight slogan 20 years of rule
                2. bk316 29 June 2020 17: 46 New
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                  76% for out of 70% who agreed to answer.
                  As a result, the amendments are really in favor - a little more than 50%.

                  Not right, two Sasha for math.
                  The rest is more or less correct.
                  I’m not sure that GDP will not go for another term.
                  1. Alex777 29 June 2020 18: 01 New
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                    Little Johnny!
                    What do you think you found a mistake?
                    1. bk316 30 June 2020 11: 25 New
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                      What do you think you found a mistake?

                      Everything is very simple: out of those 30% who did not respond, someone will also vote in favor.
                      Therefore, multiply the probability of error. You will not get a statistically correct result, but a very rough estimate from below.

                      It is necessary to take into account that you have obtained 2 samples and add the probabilities by calculating the total probability (this is like calculating the probability of hitting a target with several missiles). At the same time, we must try to take into account that the samples can be biased, if this is impossible (there is no information about the bias), then the bias in the unknown sample is taken equal to the bias in the known one and the accuracy decreases.

                      In your case, the result is the same 76%. Only the accuracy drops to 15% (I greatly simplified the accuracy)

                      EH USE USE ......
                      1. Alex777 30 June 2020 11: 40 New
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                        Everything is very simple: out of those 30% who did not respond, someone will also vote in favor.

                        I proceed from the fact that those who did not respond would most likely vote against.
                        Only the accuracy drops to 15% (I greatly simplified the accuracy)

                        Surveys with such accuracy can be immediately thrown away. Accuracy should not be more than 5%. No way.
                        EH USE USE ......

                        Wacky stamps are not tired? Do you have one shkolota around? Do you work as a teacher?
                        Or have you reached academic heights?
                        I graduated from Moscow State University in the 20th century. And I imagine how polls are conducted. Friends have been doing this all their lives.
                        That is why I alone noticed that 76% of the result is from 70% .. The rest did not even notice.
                        Parental position is not for you. lol
                      2. bk316 30 June 2020 15: 14 New
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                        I proceed from the fact that those who did not respond would most likely vote against.

                        This is a bad, unsubstantiated hypothesis. For example, in VO 90% shout that against amendments laughing

                        I graduated from Moscow State University in the 20th century.

                        True and which faculty? What specialty? What year?

                        Well, yes, my grandfather’s position suits me more laughing
                      3. Alex777 30 June 2020 19: 02 New
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                        I proceed from the fact that those who did not respond would most likely vote against.

                        This is a bad, unsubstantiated hypothesis. For example, in VO 90% shout that against amendments

                        I say that those who refused to answer sociologists voted против.
                        You say that in VO 90% против amendments.
                        What is the difference? Where did you see the unconfirmed hypothesis?
                        Just it all fits together. wink
                        True and which faculty? What specialty? What year?

                        Maybe you and the key to the apartment where the money is? wink
                        If you have a relationship with Moscow State University, then you’ll understand where I come from.
                        My military specialization is air defense. bully
                      4. bk316 1 July 2020 14: 53 New
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                        Maybe you and the key to the apartment where the money is?

                        Well, if you are so afraid to name the faculty that you graduated from, tell me in which building the occupations of the military department were, what the building was called, what was in the first semester and what title the head of the department had. laughing

                        Where did you see the unconfirmed hypothesis?

                        You have a hypothesis that those who are against the constitution are silent about this.
                        And those 90% who are in VO against the constitution SCREAM about it.
                        Either your hypothesis is incorrect or the VO sample is fundamentally different from the random one. If household does not correspond to the people of the Russian Federation.

                        About friends and classmates just laugh. I have a famous surgeon's classmate, entrust me to operate on you? laughing
        2. Alex777 29 June 2020 16: 09 New
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          Those who throw in “results” - they know what they are doing.

          People from power organized the swamp too.
          But their goals were completely their own.
          1. Alex777 29 June 2020 18: 03 New
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            It's funny Is it true that marshy eyes pierce? wink
            Or until now it didn’t come to who worked there?
        3. Klingon 29 June 2020 19: 16 New
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          yes, herd feeling, base instinct, but it works. here's an example for you: my wife voted against, I don’t vote because I can’t TC. I don’t have any snails there (I don’t even know that it’s TC, we have been living in Germany for a long time, but we have Russian citizenship) and would have voted against it. A mother-in-law and grandmother voted FOR, my wife and I asked damn what for voted? and my mother-in-law is gritting and what, "Lucy (sister) Voted FOR, well, we too"
          And believe me, these are the majority who do not think with their own head but do it like everyone
          1. doubovitski 29 June 2020 23: 25 New
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            Quote: Klingon
            yes, herd feeling, base instinct, but it works. here's an example for you: my wife voted against, I don’t vote because I can’t TC. I don’t have any snails there (I don’t even know that it’s TC, we have been living in Germany for a long time, but we have Russian citizenship) and would have voted against it. A mother-in-law and grandmother voted FOR, my wife and I asked damn what for voted? and my mother-in-law is gritting and what, "Lucy (sister) Voted FOR, well, we too"
            And believe me, these are the majority who do not think with their own head but do it like everyone

            By your delirium, I still do not understand, are you FOR or AGAIN? are you sculpting about your mother-in-law, about my spouse, about ..... The head itself, as she herself thinks, or does Frau Merkel listen to the broadcast?
          2. Nemchinov Vl 30 June 2020 21: 06 New
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            Quote: Klingon
            gregarious feeling, base instinct, but it works. here's an example for you: my wife voted against, I don’t vote because I can’t TC. I don’t have any snails there (I don’t even know that it’s TC, we have been living in Germany for a long time,
            Well, you then know better from Germany, with dual citizenship .... although it seems there are part of the amendments against this for persons holding state. posts ...?! which in my opinion is correctlike priority of its judicial law over international (!). Otherwise, for the sake of market conditions (under the customer), in international court (let's say in The Hague)your country by political conspiracy "they will kneel in court verdicts", and you have no right to object (!!), even if right, as well as challenge (!!).
            1. Klingon 1 July 2020 01: 16 New
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              I do NOT have dual citizenship, but only Russian citizenship.
              what? Then I didn’t understand why you are all this, about which country?
        4. NordUral 29 June 2020 19: 27 New
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          I agree with you, military_cat. Prior to yesterday's throw-in about 31, the lemon of the voters was tossed about what to do. But today I decided - I’ll go and vote against it.
          Although it is clear that crooks all rigged, act brazenly, without fear of anything. But just waiting for the sea weather is not for me.
          1. IS-80_RVGK2 29 June 2020 23: 54 New
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            Quote: NordUral
            Although it’s clear that the crooks are all fraudulent, they act impudently, without fearing anything, but just waiting for the weather by the sea is not for me.

            So you decided to go and play along with the system. Logic where are you? Hand face.
            1. NordUral 30 June 2020 09: 59 New
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              For starters - no need to poke me.
              But in fact - they do not use my ballot and I will say no to swindlers in power!
              1. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 10: 19 New
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                Quote: NordUral
                But in fact - they do not use my ballot and I will say no to swindlers in power!

                Already funny. They used you to legitimize the vote. But you believe that you voted against in the system of bourgeois elections, dealt capital a mortal blow. laughing With such leftists, no rightists are needed.
                1. NordUral 30 June 2020 10: 24 New
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                  With people like you, who always hide under sofas, this power is and will be.
                2. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 10: 46 New
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                  What is the use of your activity if you play up to power with your actions?
                3. valek97 30 June 2020 11: 26 New
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                  And what's the point of thinking so if there is no lower turnout? There is only one struggle, the more conscious citizens appear, the better. And they will always have time to catch up with people from under the sticks.
                4. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 11: 49 New
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                  Nevertheless, the authorities for some reason drive people through the administrative resource to vote. Yes, of course, just sitting at home is not the best choice, but it is definitely better than a protest vote.
              2. NordUral 30 June 2020 11: 50 New
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                Do you undermine it with your inaction? I agree, the question is complex. And you don’t know which is better. But action is better than silence and passive protest.
                Already one half-glass says that extended in time and space must be actively implemented. Just like your silence like the lambs of Aunt Valais.
              3. Alex777 30 June 2020 12: 02 New
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                This is a dull troll. Feeding him is an empty matter.
                Read his posts on the profile.
                In addition to rudeness to strangers, stamps and hatred, there is nothing there. bully
              4. NordUral 30 June 2020 12: 12 New
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                Alexander, I actually spoke about Matvienko. And who are you talking about?
              5. Alex777 30 June 2020 12: 13 New
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                IS-80_RVGK2 (Makar)
              6. NordUral 30 June 2020 12: 15 New
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                Thank! This buddy just hit me.
              7. Alex777 30 June 2020 12: 26 New
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                When they come upon me, I go into the profile and look: when it appeared and what it writes to others.
                If the person is normal - I answer. hi
                This one wrote to me yesterday. bully
              8. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 12: 46 New
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                Sasha, I do not organically digest liars, but even more stupid ones. Which for some reason decided that they are smarter than me. So you yourself are to blame for your pain and suffering.
              9. NordUral 30 June 2020 12: 59 New
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                I myself do it sometimes, but more often I answer foolishly. But do not do this - feed the enemies.
      3. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 12: 40 New
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        The schoolboy bakes everything from how you shamefully merged? laughing
      4. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 12: 45 New
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        Empty business is your middle name. laughing Really smart and interesting people on the site less and less, but pathos schoolchildren drove like you.
    2. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 12: 39 New
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      I have repeatedly told you why it’s better not to go to the polls. What am I, Lenin wrote about this a hundred years ago. But you persistently want to ride a rake.
  • doubovitski 29 June 2020 23: 23 New
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    Quote: Malyuta
    Quote: Looking Petrovich
    76% of them are so customary to draw. Edro in the Duma also has 76% of the seats, although no one votes for it.

    76 + 76 = 152% !!! Where are you fools, where? It is necessary 146 wassat

    Should drink less. You need to drink less. And the numbers bloodied in the eyes will not loom.
  • Aleksey Aleksandrovich 30 June 2020 18: 37 New
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    [quote = Malyuta]
    [/ Quote]
    76 + 76 = 152% !!! Where are you fools, where? It is necessary 146 wassat[/ Quote]

    Do not need 146, you need 50% + 1 vote. And that is all.
    And you at least get away with your zeroing, it may feel better.hi
  • tracer 30 June 2020 18: 55 New
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    Malyuta you are going to do as a “sipoku” going about this. Or you’ll be screaming like that same Mazepa, “I’ll scold me!” You are our disco dancer under the Liburasienov rainbow pipe.
  • Domestic cat 1 July 2020 13: 24 New
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    The first number will add percentages.
  • Svarog 29 June 2020 14: 48 New
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    Quote: Looking Petrovich
    76% of them are so customary to draw. Edro in the Duma also has 76% of the seats, although no one votes for it.

    I thought 72% would support, but here 76% .. mdya .. well, on the whole I didn’t make a lot of mistakes, everything is predictable ... and sad.
    1. unaha 29 June 2020 14: 50 New
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      Nothing, as a result, I guess they will reduce it to 72. Here comes the first those who are “against” and a little “lower” indicators.
      1. Woodman 29 June 2020 14: 58 New
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        Quote: unaha
        Here is the first come those who are “against” and a little “lower” indicators.

        And what prevents those who are “against” coming earlier? Not the 1st, but the 29th or 30th? Or will they go exactly in an organized way? Under strict guidance and vigilant control?
        1. unaha 29 June 2020 15: 06 New
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          Not at all. “Under strict guidance and vigilant control” those who advance in advance usually go (and this, by the way, not only state employees, earlier asked employees of large corporations to “show consciousness” as well, as I now don’t know, I didn’t ask). And those who are against simply overwhelmingly will not come at all. In any case, I know no one from acquaintances - “for”, but literally a couple of people will seem to participate in this booth.
          I myself won’t decide whether to go with a known result (and yes - I don’t have the slightest confidence in this “poll”).
          1. Alex777 29 June 2020 15: 16 New
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            Remember how fun they lived under Yeltsin. Especially senior citizens.
            1. unaha 29 June 2020 15: 19 New
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              I correctly understand that ANY movement other than prescribed by the current authorities returns the country to "how fun they lived under Yeltsin"? Those. Are we exclusively on rails - either forward or backward? Neither right, nor left, nor bounce in the end?
              1. Alex777 29 June 2020 15: 32 New
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                The neighbors bounced repeatedly:
                After Kravchuk there was Kuchma-get.
                After Kuchma - Yushchenko fear.
                After Yushchenko - Yanukovych-Zlochnin.
                After Yanukovych - Poroshenko.
                Well, now Zelensky. wink
                Do you want to learn from your mistakes?
                I would be preferable to strangers. hi
                1. unaha 29 June 2020 15: 34 New
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                  "Do you want to learn from your mistakes?" So I learned - or you do not remember the USSR finals? You want to step on this rake once more? It will be even more painful.
                  1. Alex777 29 June 2020 15: 45 New
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                    I understand very well, thanks to whom Russia is now a single state and did not fall into pieces, as many wanted it to.
                  2. unaha 29 June 2020 17: 00 New
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                    So I remember. But if his current actions lead in the long run to the same collapse?
                  3. Alex777 29 June 2020 17: 02 New
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                    Do not lead. The enemies would like that. But they will not break off. hi
                    By the way, on the basis of what are you making such conclusions about the collapse?
                  4. unaha 29 June 2020 17: 18 New
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                    Let me give you a simple example. Once a passenger plane crashed from Moscow to Perm. Then several owners of large local companies perished. 3 of them then did not die very quickly. The owners of these companies were both executive directors and ALL company processes closed only to themselves. First, control paralysis occurred, then the heirs finished off tearing pieces. As amended, Putin becomes the same "owner."
                  5. Alex777 29 June 2020 17: 21 New
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                    My IMHO:
                    1. amendments are a legacy of GDP (and in this part I fully support it).
                    2. he will not go to the next term.
                    3. Zeroing is needed for him to calmly transfer power.
                    4. He has already done a lot of things so that after his departure everything does not fall apart and for another 4 years, he has got to work in this direction. hi
                  6. military_cat 29 June 2020 20: 06 New
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                    Quote: Alex777
                    2. he will not go to the next term.
                    3. Zeroing is needed for him to calmly transfer power.
                    You are so naive, I don’t even know whether to be moved or terrified.
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                    Have you quarantined here in early March? wink
                    It seems like a clever man ...
                2. AnpeL 29 June 2020 22: 02 New
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                  3. Zeroing is needed for him to calmly transfer power.

                  But do we want the power to be so calmly transferred from hand to hand?
                3. Alex777 29 June 2020 22: 29 New
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                  The plan for revolution has been fulfilled by Russia. Enough.
                4. IS-80_RVGK2 29 June 2020 23: 57 New
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                  Quote: Alex777
                  The plan for revolution has been fulfilled by Russia. Enough.

                  Are you still not tired of broadcasting this nonsense?
                5. Alex777 29 June 2020 23: 57 New
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                  Do you want to fix one more?
                6. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 00: 15 New
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                  I would like the revolution to demolish this system today. But I am a realist. And I understand perfectly that so far this is not possible. But I also understand that sooner or later there will be a revolution. And better sooner than later. I’m just wondering, have you ever thought about this phrase about the plan for revolutions? Because it’s really rubbish. A revolution is inevitable. And the fact that it will be predetermined not by someone’s dreams and wants, but by the objective process of evolution of human society.
                7. Alex777 30 June 2020 00: 18 New
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                  There will be no revolution. I promise you. hi
                  GDP is kind too.
                  The successor will be stricter.
                  Didn’t come to mind? wink
                8. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 00: 20 New
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                  You just don’t understand who you are saying this to. For me, this cheap self-confidence, based on nothing, does not work. Argue or go to school boy.
                9. Alex777 30 June 2020 00: 22 New
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                  Ah ha ha ha ha ... As if you understand who you are talking to. lol
                  I’ll tell you one thing - I’m not retired yet.
                  So see you if that. wink
                10. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 00: 27 New
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                  Some kind of schoolboy most likely. Smoked history book.
                11. Alex777 30 June 2020 00: 31 New
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                  Do not judge others by yourself. lol
                12. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 00: 34 New
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                  I judge you exclusively by you and your like.
        2. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 00: 24 New
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          What does the good or strict have to do with it? You really don’t understand what the economy is, what are the contradictions in the capitalist system? What is class theory and class struggle? If not, go to school boy. I have nothing to talk about with you. You are too stupid and uneducated yet.
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          Eccentric. I have been leading serious people since I was 91 years old. lol
          And I don’t know about economics from textbooks, and I lived in the capitalist system for almost 10 years.
          However, with your conceit we really have nothing to talk about.
        4. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 00: 32 New
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          Let me tell you a student for the Internet. There are no authorities. And in general, you are funny. A person who can not clearly argue his point of view leads serious people. Ha ha ha
        5. Alex777 30 June 2020 00: 34 New
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          Because it’s an adult, so I won’t be involved in children's provocations.
          Rest, hero of the invisible front. lol
        6. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 00: 37 New
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          Why did you go so quickly through the pipes, demagogue? Just a little more bother.
        7. Alex777 30 June 2020 00: 51 New
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          Hand face. Have a rest. wink
          The fact that the "demagogue" is one of the 100 words that you use, I already understood. bully
          I immediately remember about "..that will receive both war and shame."

          You quoted me when you answered Oyo Sarkazmi June 28, 2020 13:29, the "great and terrible" Makar.
          Churchill's original phrase is otherwise composed. lol
          I know how. You are not.
        8. IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 00: 59 New
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          Oh, he got out of the pipe and decided to fight. Well, OK. I just don’t remember the phrase Churchill either uttered or not. I don’t care. So you have Churchill? Again, there are problems with medicines in the insane asylum. So what's up with the argument for the revolution? Will I hear something intelligible or will you again begin to carry any nonsense and nonsense?
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          Rest your mitt. That’s all I have for such a hero. lol
          Calling all schoolchildren is the skill of argumentation. wink
          At school, your education is obviously over.
          And there ... Leather ball ... Golden puck ... bully
          So you have Churchill?

          Do you know who Churchill is?
          It seems not, since they managed to write such a surname with an error.
          Is free.
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          Quote: Alex777
          It seems not, since they managed to write such a surname with an error.

          The argument is just brilliance. And most importantly, this student considers himself smart. So what's up with the revolutions? Will I hear anything intelligible? You seem to be a humanist, they like to find fault with spelling because essentially they have nothing to say. laughing Are you back in the pipe? Well, what is boredom.
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          Makar! You are also deaf. Have a rest.
          The last third time you answered. wink
          You are boring and not interesting to me.
          All that you can say, I have already read. lol
          Yet.
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          Of course not interesting. You wanted to show off and merged like the last sucker. laughing And now you're trying to play the insulted innocence of an intellectual. Although there is neither innocence nor even the beginnings of intelligence.
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    But I also understand that sooner or later there will be a revolution. And better sooner than later.
    Well then, let it be now in England or in the USA !!! yes
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    A revolution is inevitable. And the fact that it will be predetermined not by someone’s dreams and wants, but by the objective process of evolution of human society.
    belay winked
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    There will be no revolution. I promise you.
    sad
  • unaha 30 June 2020 08: 49 New
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    “he needs zeroing for a calm transfer of power” - here we have a fundamental difference in views. From my point of view, it is not he who should seek a successor and transfer power, but we are citizens of the country!
  • Alex777 30 June 2020 09: 39 New
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    I am not a great writer and in a short post I miss some shades of what I want to say. As it is. hi
    Great writer is Prilepin.
    Read. Regarding the calm transfer of power, he described everything well, in my opinion.
    Although I am by no means his fan.
    It’s like the thought that the Russian head didn’t utter: “If you’ll be shaken, gentlemen generals, marshals, inhabitants of the Kremlin towers, political exiles, American and European partners, I won’t go anywhere. Sit quietly. "
    There is no other way to convey this idea than in this form — by setting the deadline to zero — no. No one will believe in any other promises and threats. “Okay, they’ll say, don’t be afraid. Sit down and leave, now we’ll dance here without you. ”
    But they will believe in this message. All players will have to humble gestures. Their successors are no longer needed. Those who want to get the Moscow throne will need to lie low and wait in silence for how it will end. If absolutely rude: then no Rothschilds will invest a billion dollars in Khodorkovsky, because after zeroing the meaning of these investments will significantly decrease. And the FSB will not butt with the GRU, and the second tower of the Kremlin with the third - for the same reason - why butting something, the chair still will not be vacated.
    At the same time, I secretly think that the incumbent president is tired, that he is sick of everything, that he wants to live without all of this. That he will leave as soon as his term ends. But he would not want to end his reign in the midst of a natural battle between Russian and foreign special services for the Russian throne. He would like to calmly bring the ship to the harbor - so that the massacre would not begin on this ship on the road. Bring and hand the helm to the applicants. In the atmosphere of the very stability that has been talked about so often in recent years. And not in an atmosphere of all-Russian psychosis.

    https://vz.ru/opinions/2020/6/22/1046326.html
  • flicker 29 June 2020 21: 37 New
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    As amended, Putin becomes the same "owner"
    Quite the contrary, the amendments redistribute power: part of the presidential functions are transferred to the parliament and the Federation Council, in addition, the latter will have more powers than they had.
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    The amendments should ensure such a redistribution of power between all branches - so that state power becomes more stable and does not depend on the will of one president.
  • Rzzz 29 June 2020 20: 15 New
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    I understand very well, thanks to whom Russia is now a single state

    And to whom?
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    It didn’t fall to pieces, as many wanted it.

    Who specifically wanted this, please explain. Only about malicious Americans is not necessary, this is not even funny.
  • 4ekist 29 June 2020 17: 32 New
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    Why remember x @ hlov here, these were still not enough.
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      DVR 29 June 2020 18: 37 New
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      Why remember x @ hlov here, these were still not enough.

      There are enough of them here, you probably don’t notice :)
    2. Alex777 29 June 2020 22: 31 New
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      Yes, the number of minuses that I received when reminding them of their glorious history speaks directly about this. bully
    3. DVR
      DVR 29 June 2020 22: 48 New
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      Yes, the number of minuses that I received when reminding them of their glorious history speaks directly about this.

      There is such a thing, I don’t pay attention to it :) These ratings and pluses are important to them (but they are never recognized), they form the agenda here, public opinion. And I, for fun in my free time.
    4. Alex777 29 June 2020 22: 56 New
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      So I get in when it matters to me.
      By the way, the fact that GDP will not go for the 5th term is not one I think. hi
      https://vz.ru/opinions/2020/6/22/1046326.html
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      DVR 29 June 2020 23: 03 New
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      By the way, the fact that GDP will not go for the 5th term is not one I think.

      Initially, I estimated the possibility of this with a probability of 50%. But, I think that we will find out the final answer only closer to the elections. Yes, and the dynamics of processes can still affect the final decisionhi
    6. Alex777 29 June 2020 23: 05 New
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      I even know where to go. But I won’t tell you yet. Early. hi
      A lot of sensible people are doing now.
      And thank God that those who don’t need this do not see it.
    7. DVR
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      I even know where to go. But I won’t tell you yet. Early.

      Also refrain from too bold forecasts, although some assumptions exist smile hi
  • edmed 29 June 2020 15: 51 New
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    Quote: unaha
    Neither right, nor left, nor bounce in the end?

    "A step to the left or to the right is an escape, a jump on the spot is a provocation! I shoot without warning!" wink Something like this..
  • mdsr 29 June 2020 15: 32 New
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    Quote: Alex777
    Remember how fun they lived under Yeltsin. Especially senior citizens.

    But now how smartly life is for pensionersfellow Men in retirement age 65, women in retirement age 60, and an average pension of 13 thousand are a dream, not life. Yeltsin can envy.
    I want to remind the screaders of March 2018. Then, before the election, you also arranged a Sabbath at the VO, breaking the vocal cords, that now he will clean all the cows from the government, organize a breakthrough, etc. .. But only a few weeks have passed and you all became somewhat depressed after the appointment of the cabinet. And then, when he dragged the pension robbery of citizens during the World Cup, you did not know what to say, who to blame. And then there was also an increase in VAT to 20%.
    So, you know, after the current vote to nullify the significance of the constitution, no less surprising “gifts” await you. You have to pay for everything in life, especially for naivety and stupidity.
    1. Alex777 29 June 2020 15: 43 New
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      Putin is not purging anyone, but trying to maintain unity as much as possible.
      Sometimes even where, in my opinion, it would be necessary to use power more actively.
      My parents in Yeltsin’s time would die of hunger if it weren’t for me.
      And this is not an exaggeration. They didn’t live in Moscow and did not even receive a regional minuscule for many months. Not to mention the increase.
      What will happen - let's see, we won’t go anywhere.
      I already voted for Prokhorov once.
      I do not want to repeat such mistakes. hi
      1. NordUral 29 June 2020 19: 32 New
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        Putin is not purging anyone, but trying to maintain unity as much as possible.

        I agree, but with clarification - in the ruling community of thieves and bribe takers. And this I have correctly said.
        1. Alex777 29 June 2020 22: 35 New
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          Your story of Germans resettled in the Urals, but I have already heard Stalin revered. I have enough. hi
        2. NordUral 30 June 2020 10: 02 New
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          So plug your ears and squint. I’m not imposing my point of view and my experience on you, Alex777.
          And I’ll also say that the Russian half of my ancestors also sat in the same Northern Urals. And she also did not harbor evil against Stalin, like the mold of the sixties, thawed by Khrushch.
          You don’t have to blame everything on Stalin, there were enough executioners, the same Nikita was head over heels in blood.
        3. Alex777 30 June 2020 10: 25 New
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          Stalinist repression cost Russia 10 million lives.
          Every time when you will compare someone with him, or bring him to someone as an example, do not forget about it, please. hi
        4. NordUral 30 June 2020 10: 27 New
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          You were mistaken, your teacher, Solzhenitsyn, lied. which is 100.
        5. Alex777 30 June 2020 10: 40 New
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          I’m not just not a student of Solzhenitsyn, I didn’t even read what he wrote.
          But unlike you, I know how to correctly spell his last name.
          The numbers that I remembered while studying history are sad.
          In the Civil War, Russia lost about 10 million lives.
          In the Stalinist repression died as much.
          The country approached the war having lost a great number of compatriots capable of labor and defense.
          For me, this is too much for a "brighter future."
          Therefore, personally to me, revolutions are no longer needed.
          I do not impose my opinion on you. And there’s nothing to argue about.
          All the best. hi
        6. NordUral 30 June 2020 10: 45 New
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          Therefore, personally to me, revolutions are no longer needed.

          I will not argue with you, this is empty.
          And as for the call for revolution - this is where you saw in my statements? I constantly urge you to remove these from power by peaceful and legal means - in elections.
        7. Alex777 30 June 2020 10: 57 New
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          Here I am - for a peaceful and legal path and against the dictatorship of the minority.
          Whatever the minority.
        8. NordUral 30 June 2020 11: 30 New
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          I agree, Alexander!
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      Quote: Alex777
      .... For me, this is too much for a "brighter future."
      but this is on the one hand, and on the other, futurecould come and not so bright (!). Hypothetically, if you enter the era of rebirth of a country with 10000000 "dissenters"who are ready to hit you in the back (!).... Simply think about it (!). And also remember What never (!), neither before nor after the death of Stalin, our country, no longer developed EXACTLY THESE RATES (!!!). So, this historical person is a question always controversial and controversial !!!.
  • 4ekist 29 June 2020 16: 52 New
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    And what do you dislike about the retirement age of 65? For a long time they went. Do we all “conscious” citizens pay money to a pension fund and to insurance medicine? half of the country does not pay (underpay, hide income) taxes. The exception should be children, the elderly and the disabled. And at the same time they want to receive good pensions and visit polyclinics and hospitals. Why the hell should I sponsor harbor workers, working my whole life in the white and donating money to various funds, including and charities. So, what they were going to, they came to that.
    1. Have you tried to pay all taxes with a real salary?
  • NordUral 29 June 2020 19: 30 New
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    So, you know, after the current vote to nullify the significance of the constitution, no less surprising “gifts” await you. You have to pay for everything in life, especially for naivety and stupidity.
    I agree one hundred percent!
  • Malyuta 29 June 2020 15: 34 New
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    Quote: Alex777
    Remember how fun they lived under Yeltsin. Especially senior citizens.


    What are the 90s fixes, you look at the 21st century in the yard in the calendar, and everything in your 90s bugs.
    already change manuals.
    1. unaha 29 June 2020 15: 45 New
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      What for? The Russian empire has long ceased to exist, and one head of the state is still looking back, while the other seems to have closed eyes - what if there’s something terrible ahead.
    2. Boris55 29 June 2020 16: 02 New
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      Quote: Malyuta
      What are the 90s fixes, you look at the 21st century in the yard in the calendar, and everything in your 90s bugs. already change manuals.

      What has changed since then? The still valid Constitution of 1993 brought the country almost to the collapse and internecine wars of the newly-made princes.

      A return to those times is quite real. The only guarantee against this is to rewrite the Constitution in the interests of Russia.

      What guarantees do you have that this cannot happen?
      1. Malyuta 29 June 2020 16: 11 New
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        A return to those times is quite real. The only guarantee against this is to rewrite the Constitution in the interests of Russia.

        Enough already to carry this bend, here not all silly children.
        Starting from July 1st, everything, housing and communal services, property taxes, etc., will rise in price, what will you sing after "legitimization2 nullified?"
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          I repeat the question: What guarantees do you have that there will be no return to the 90s if the Constitution remains the same?
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          What guarantees do you have that there will be no return to the 90s ......

          If there will be a return in 90, it is not because the constitution is old, but because it is so wanted by those in power. The constitution does not change brains.
        3. flicker 29 June 2020 21: 48 New
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          The constitution does not change brains.
          It may or may not change the brain, but it can completely change its brain functions, even if it pushes them into the framework of norms and laws, the latter provide new conditions that force us to look for new moves to solve (even old ones) tasks.
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          So do not underestimate the significance of constitutional changes.
        4. Souchastnik 30 June 2020 09: 33 New
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          So do not underestimate the significance of constitutional changes.

          Well, if you think that as soon as we change the constitution, we will immediately heal, I will not argue with you.
          Unfortunately, I see no reason for optimism. There is a good joke about a brothel. There, when sales fell, they didn’t make beds for Feng Shui, but they changed staff.
        5. flicker 30 June 2020 10: 47 New
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          There is a good joke about a brothel. There, when sales fell, they didn’t make beds for Feng Shui, but they changed staff.
          This joke is probably about Ukraine, there the “girls” are often changed, though this does not save them, but rather drowns them.

          This is because, as they had a brothel, they stayed (though they’re changing “girls”)
          Maybe it was worth replacing the furniture, so as not for a brothel?
          Then, you see, and the girl would have chosen the right one (not for a brothel).
  • ZAV69 29 June 2020 16: 54 New
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    Starting from July 1st, everything, housing and communal services, property taxes, etc., will rise in price, what will you sing after "legitimization2 nullified?"

    So it seems like every year at this time everything rises in price. Communal for sure. What did you not sing before?
    And there were no amendments; did it not rise in price or became cheaper?
  • Alex777 29 June 2020 17: 36 New
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    From July 1, everything will rise in price, utilities, property taxes, etc.

    Is that inner voice told you? Or read where?
    And what will happen if nothing rises in price?
    Eat a tie? lol
  • IS-80_RVGK2 30 June 2020 00: 46 New
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    But nothing that the country fell apart a little earlier? Or is it not worth paying attention to such trifles?
  • Alex777 29 June 2020 16: 43 New
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    what are the 90s fixes, you look at the 21st century on the calendar in the yard

    What brought the 21st century to the yard?
    White lives don't matter?
    LGBTI month of pride? Oh well. lol
  • Grandfather 29 June 2020 16: 45 New
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    Remember how fun they lived under Yeltsin. Especially senior citizens.

    and at Kerensky as ....
    1. Alex777 29 June 2020 17: 06 New
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      I'm not so old. You know better about Kerensky. wink
  • gurzuf 29 June 2020 15: 57 New
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    "And those who are against simply overwhelmingly will not come at all." In short - patience in life.
    1. Grandfather 29 June 2020 17: 28 New
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      Appeared data at voting on amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation
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      Not at all. They simply do not believe in the honest conduct of the voting organizers. There are enough reasons for this opinion.
  • bk316 29 June 2020 17: 50 New
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    and yes - I have no confidence in this “poll”

    Yes, your trust does not need anyone laughing
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      Nobody really needs my private trust in our reality. However, this is just very bad. The finale of states to which the trust of citizens is not interesting is very predictable.
  • tihonmarine 29 June 2020 15: 28 New
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    Quote: Lesovik
    And what prevents those who are “against” coming earlier? Not the 1st, but the 29th or 30th? Or will they go exactly in an organized way? Under strict guidance and vigilant control?

    My neighbor went to the consulate yesterday to vote for amendments, I asked him, "Have you even read them?" and he told me, “Why, I went and voted in favor, I'm a citizen of Russia.”
    1. bk316 29 June 2020 17: 44 New
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      "Why, I went to vote for it, I'm a citizen of Russia."

      Yeah, the wrong neighbor.
      Well, in VO there are a lot of people who, too, without reading the amendments, WILL NOT go to vote, does this bother you?
      Just above your comment, one posted a poster saying “how can those who have taken a pension write a good constitution”. Probably read the amendments for him overwork.
      1. tihonmarine 29 June 2020 17: 51 New
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        Well, in VO there are a lot of people who, too, without reading the amendments, WILL NOT go to vote, does this bother you?

        It doesn’t bother me, people are different. Although now grandmothers in the villages say, "The main thing is that there is no war."
        1. bk316 29 June 2020 17: 52 New
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          Although now grandmothers in the villages say, "The main thing is that there is no war."

          And maybe they are right!
          But to vote or not to vote for the law without reading it is not out of a big mind.
      2. tihonmarine 29 June 2020 17: 53 New
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        Probably read the amendments for him overwork.

        By the way, his pension does not bother him.
      3. NordUral 30 June 2020 17: 41 New
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        But to read all the amendments and it makes no sense. To argue that white is white - for this, an amendment to the constitution is not needed (for me - it needs to be changed completely). Read and comprehend only a few.
  • gurzuf 29 June 2020 15: 55 New
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    Internal vote pro votes
  • NordUral 29 June 2020 19: 29 New
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    On the 1st, real voters will go, and not these virtual ones, most of whom are selected from constantly non-voters.
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      On the 1st, real voters will go, and not these virtual ones, most of whom are selected from constantly non-voters.

      My mother has already voted, she is quite real. repeat
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        I wrote that not all are fake, von Messer.
  • Stirbjorn 29 June 2020 14: 59 New
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    I thought 72% would support, but here 76% .. mdya .. well, on the whole I didn’t make a lot of mistakes, everything is predictable ... and sad.

    Well, initially the numbers were called in the range of 70-80%, so it is not surprising, especially with the voting system itself - without observers, for a week, on stumps of luggage carriers, etc.
    1. gurzuf 29 June 2020 16: 03 New
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      They forgot another phrase on your training manual - they have already voted for you.
  • tracer 30 June 2020 19: 00 New
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    Go to the monastery of Svarog with grief. Make a tent for yourself an icon of Lenin and Marx with Engels and go and have fun reading the first transcripts of congresses of the CPSU. But
    , something tells me that out of habit, you will brainwash people with your nonsense.
  • lis-ik 29 June 2020 17: 26 New
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    Quote: Looking Petrovich
    Quote: Sergey 777
    The statistics service claims that 76 percent of those who voted in favor of amendments to the Basic Law.

    Uh ... strange to say the least.

    76% of them are so customary to draw. Edro in the Duma also has 76% of the seats, although no one votes for it.

    Yes, they are already fixated on this figure. They can’t come up with anything new. I, here in the comments about two months ago, predicted this figure to the nearest percentage.
    1. Stirbjorn 29 June 2020 20: 25 New
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      Yes, they are already fixated on this figure. They can’t come up with anything new. I, here in the comments about two months ago, predicted this figure to the nearest percentage.

      Shevchenko posted the video today, why exactly 76%, and his forecast is 76 + -2% (watch from 5 minutes)
  • alone 29 June 2020 17: 57 New
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    76% of them are so customary to draw. Edro in the Duma also has 76% of the seats, although no one votes for it.

    They have a 76 sacred number wassat wassat
  • NDR-791 29 June 2020 14: 22 New
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    Uh ... strange to say the least.
    This figure was announced back in March. Do you doubt that there will be less? Don’t worry, people, the CEC said ... we expect around 76%. So be it belay
  • rocket757 29 June 2020 14: 23 New
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    It will be strange if you do not type FOR more than everything else.
    1. Sergei 777 29 June 2020 14: 25 New
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      It is not strange, it is impossible angry
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        Surely it is.
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        It is not strange, it is impossible angry

        Well, why? Indeed, in North Korea they vote 100% FOR. And in different countries of Africa, not much less happens. Are we worse than all Ethiopia, Kenya and Rwanda? Sarcasm.
        Seriously, such an abuse of the Constitution for the sake of nullifying common sense will be heard back to our grandchildren and great-grandchildren. Faithful, go straight to
        1. gurzuf 29 June 2020 16: 07 New
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          Well, why? In our Crimea in 2014, 93% of those who voted voted FOR. Does it bother you too?
        2. 4ekist 29 June 2020 17: 01 New
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          There is nothing to do with your strategic thinking on the sofa, but the 1993 constitution. buy at a bookstore and keep it as a keepsake.
    2. fa2998 29 June 2020 14: 58 New
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      There are proven and loyal people there. For them, any election company is an extra reason to show their trustworthiness, then promotion, awards, to whom orders and medals. Well, and the old sweet life.
  • carstorm 11 29 June 2020 14: 27 New
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    these are exit polls. it is strange that this fact was omitted since VTsIOM said it in plain text.
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      The absence of mention in the article that PRELIMINARY data are data of anonymous exit polls is provocative. What immediately began to condemn all the most "honest"!
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        exactly. you can’t say otherwise
      2. ZAV69 29 June 2020 16: 57 New
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        data are data from anonymous exit polls

        Are you reading through a line? It was said there. This time. VTsIOM is not a CEC; in principle, it cannot have other data until the CEC officially provides them
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          Mr. Zhukov, we are both wrong and right. The article does NOT clarify that the exit polls are PRELIMINARY and NOT counted: ballots without counting are packed and sealed until July 1. And the fact that these data are given by the authorities and the Central Executive Committee, and not by the VTsIOM, are confirmed by your alternative "honest" odnodumtsy: read the comments carefully!
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          not in this case. for some time there was another text in the article and exit polls were not mentioned at all. they just said that VTsIOM gave interest on the vote and that’s it. and then they fixed it)
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      these are exit polls

      What are exit polls for free casting of ballots drawn on my knee? laughing But seriously, these floors are prohibited this time laughing for some reason request
      1. carstorm 11 29 June 2020 23: 19 New
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        for sure. probably for this reason they interviewed more than 160 thousand people. because banned
        1. New Year day 29 June 2020 23: 47 New
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          Quote: carstorm 11
          full time. probably for this reason they interviewed more than 160 thousand people. because banned

          you believe the scribblers more! Some said that early voting gave 90% against and only 10 - for. These write - on the contrary. And everything is very confidential. There is no truth now
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            What does the scribble? this is VTsIOM data. who are hired for these purposes. conduct surveys.
  • purple 29 June 2020 14: 31 New
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    Uh ... strange to say the least.

    Why? The people simply expressed their opinion ... but the "chosen ones" survived and the people are nothing for you.
    The turnout and the results are honest, all in the case. You on the Internet of bold hamsters a small fraction
    1. Grandfather 29 June 2020 16: 49 New
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      Quote: purple
      The turnout and the results are honest, all in the case.

      the policy of zeroed to you is apparently to your liking, then at the trough. that's all.
      1. bk316 29 June 2020 17: 56 New
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        then at the trough

        Judge by yourself? Or hope to break into her coveted?
  • evgenii67 29 June 2020 14: 46 New
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    Quote: Sergey 777
    Uh ... strange to say the least.

    It is very SOFT to say. Do you still think that in Russia there are fair elections and, all the more, a fair vote? Have you noticed that very often over 76% come out? Just a coincidence ?!
    I work now at the factory
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      ..
      I work now at the factory

      I apologize for getting into your conversation ... At which factory are you allowed to chat? Can you name the company? (as a social survey)
      1. evgenii67 29 June 2020 15: 09 New
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        I apologize for getting into your conversation ... At which factory are you allowed to chat? Can you name the company? (as a social survey)

        I have a legal weekend now if that. And what does this have to do with the case?
        1. Nasrat 29 June 2020 15: 17 New
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          Legitimate weekend .... wow .... Write that you are working NOW at the factory and immediately we are writing NOW a legal weekend .... funny! It was not possible to formulate correctly, but there are complaints about the course and procedure of voting-ss !!! wassat
          So at what enterprise do you earn corn?
          1. evgenii67 30 June 2020 05: 11 New
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            Quote: Nasr
            Legitimate weekend .... wow .... Write that you are working NOW at the factory and immediately we are writing NOW a legal weekend .... funny! It was not possible to formulate correctly, but there are complaints about the course and procedure of voting-ss !!!
            So at what enterprise do you earn corn?

            You specifically write what kind of OAO and position ??? I meant that today I work there, by the way, I’m going out a day soon, I’m drinking coffee. I wrote it like this (now) because relatively recently (less than a year ago) I worked in a budget organization and there I remember they drove us to the polls and even remember how they drove us to a rally. Tell what the rally was?
      2. tihonmarine 29 June 2020 15: 35 New
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        Which factory is allowed to chat? Can you name the company? (as a social survey)

        Can you give the account number in the bank where the money is, give the right to a survey?
    2. DVR
      DVR 29 June 2020 15: 04 New
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      Do you still think that in Russia there are fair elections and, all the more, a fair vote? Have you noticed that very often over 76% come out? Just a coincidence ?!

      By your logic (and your one-minded people), the power with all the resources is so dumb that it cannot draw different numbers each time, well, so that there are less suspicions?
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      Just a coincidence ?!

      Coincidence, only you confuse cause and effect. laughing
      Excuse me, who do you work in the factory?
      Is it me to try to explain or to no avail?
  • evgenii67 29 June 2020 14: 57 New
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    Uh ... strange to say the least.

    It is very SOFT to say. Have you noticed that they always have more than 70% for? Do you still believe in fair elections and honest calculations ??? I am now working at a factory at a private trader, so we got a vote right at the factory, the turnout should be 100%, at least they didn’t hint how to vote, and this is a private trader, I'm not talking about public sector employees. There you have the freedom of choice.
    1. 4ekist 29 June 2020 22: 01 New
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      Everything is simple in the ballots: two boxes, “Yes” and “No”. No one is standing behind and with a club in control. So don’t need La-La.
      1. evgenii67 30 June 2020 04: 54 New
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        Everything is simple in the ballots: two boxes, “Yes” and “No”. No one is standing behind and with a club in control. So don’t need La-La.

        No one is worth it! That's right! Is it necessary to stand? Indeed, the main presence (appearance) in this performance, and the appearance will be what it should be, and where you put a tick there is no longer important, they will always draw their own 72-76%. At the expense of state employees and such “private traders” who organize elections at their enterprises so as not to go far, it’s convenient, but they don’t leave any choice either, the turnout at these enterprises should be 100%. Of all my acquaintances and relatives, practically no one voted FOR, or did not go at all, even my father, who always voted for GDP, but after his “wonderful” reforms, in particular, raising the retirement age, Dad promised in spring not to support more GDP and not vote for him, to which I answered him "but no more"
        1. 4ekist 30 June 2020 14: 58 New
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          GDP has its own bends. But I voted. I do not see any real alternative candidates except S. Lavrov. And as for retirement age, I’ll say this: We don’t pay half the country in full to a pension fund (I mean hiding income + squandering pension money + unfair distribution between ordinary mortals and state officials of the highest rank, these are judges, deputies and crooks.) Many citizens they worked for themselves all their lives (why bend their backs on the state). And only closer to old age they think - what kind of pension will they receive? Although they also have an old-age pension. And I have quite a few such acquaintances. There are still survivor pensions, disability pensions, etc. There is not enough money for everyone. Of course, you need to put things in order. And 65 years of retirement is certainly not fair. Many die before this age, that is, all his pension savings disappear.
    2. ZAV69 30 June 2020 07: 34 New
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      I work in Rostelecom. In addition to the email newsletter that the vote will take place, the authorities did not show themselves in this matter.
      1. bk316 30 June 2020 11: 31 New
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        the authorities did not show themselves in this matter.

        And we recommended that if you participate, then online.
  • Vend 29 June 2020 15: 32 New
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    The statistics service claims that 76 percent of those who voted in favor of amendments to the Basic Law.

    Uh ... strange to say the least.
    and this is to irritate the liberals and other shellup laughing laughing they already have a tantrum laughing laughing
  • Vladislav_2 29 June 2020 19: 00 New
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    rumor has it that they go to vote twice! (rumors are understandable) now and rumors sometimes reach 90% of reality. and so I think that for us it has long been decided and voted yes .... it remains only to see the result wink..... and a little go nuts from him
    1. Normal ok 29 June 2020 22: 34 New
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      Quote: Vladislav_2
      rumor has it that they go to vote twice! (rumors are understandable) now and rumors sometimes reach 90% of reality. and so I think that for us it has long been decided and voted yes .... it remains only to see the result wink..... and a little go nuts from him

      This is not a rumor. Journalist Pavel Lobkov freely voted twice for the sake of the experiment. Now they are making an article "for discrediting ..." So everything is possible.
      1. ZAV69 30 June 2020 07: 38 New
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        Quote: Normal ok
        This is not a rumor. Journalist Pavel Lobkov freely voted twice for the sake of the experiment. Now they are making an article "for discrediting ..." So everything is possible.

        Not for the sake of experiment, but for the sake of provocation. Active members of Parnassus worked there, they gave him a bill. After the pubis, we tried several more journalists - the result is zero.
  • smart ass 30 June 2020 21: 25 New
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    Herd it and herd in africa
  • Mountain shooter 29 June 2020 14: 18 New
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    It is very convenient to use electronic voting. Fast and not burdensome. It remains to wait a bit for the result ...
  • Woodman 29 June 2020 14: 20 New
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    Over the past five days, voter turnout was more than 28 percent.
    I’m probably leaving today.
    1. Sergey39 29 June 2020 14: 40 New
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      We go home. Already come several times.
      1. DVR
        DVR 29 June 2020 14: 47 New
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        We go home. Already come several times.

        Maybe they go somewhere, but none of the acquaintances knows about this. I would like to have a look at me ... I’ll have to go vote for the amendments myself, which I will certainly do in the near future.
        1. carstorm 11 29 June 2020 15: 26 New
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          and how should they learn about your desire? didn’t try just to familiarize yourself with the procedure for a start? In order to notify about the desire to vote at home, a citizen can: apply in person or by phone to his precinct commission, agree on the date and time of voting at home (contact details of his commission can be found through the service for searching a polling station)
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            DVR 29 June 2020 16: 06 New
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            and how should they learn about your desire? didn’t try just to familiarize yourself with the procedure for a start? In order to notify about the desire to vote at home, a citizen can: apply in person or by phone to his precinct commission, agree on the date and time of voting at home (contact details of his commission can be found through the service for searching a polling station)

            Thanks for the info, Dmitry. Here they write about people walking around the apartments. And writing exclusively from opponents of the amendments. Really everyone who writes about walking really notified district commissions about the desire to vote at home ?? Apparently, they’re not saying anything ... But nobody walks with us at all, although I live in an area with high density.
            1. carstorm 11 29 June 2020 16: 09 New
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              not really. we have places small towns or settlements. they can go there. I'm in a pretty big city right now. we didn’t go. my mother didn’t come to another area. the mother-in-law, too. although here I distort for my mother-in-law with my mother live kapets as near)))
            2. 4ekist 29 June 2020 17: 09 New
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              Nobody goes home! This is a lie or provocation. We have in the district not even put up ads. I had to find out the number of the polling station and its address via the Internet. At the entrance to the polling station, he also says nothing about the elections.
            3. Sergey39 29 June 2020 21: 45 New
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              Quote: DVR
              everyone who writes about the walkers really notified the precinct commissions of the desire to vote at home

              Nobody notified us. Sami came. The first day they stood in the courtyard to the microdistrict, then they passed through the apartments. My acquaintances, too. Mother voted at home, accidentally caught. This is in Kaliningrad, in other regions I do not know.
      2. Pereira 29 June 2020 14: 50 New
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        Apparently they do not reach the planned indicators for the turnout. Behind the schedule.
        1. Malyuta 29 June 2020 14: 52 New
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          Apparently they do not reach the planned indicators for the turnout. Behind the schedule.

          Pull the "trunk" "on the" stump "and reset the nullifier itself.
        2. carstorm 11 29 June 2020 15: 28 New
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          Do not bring nonsense to her God. they come only to those who asked for it. and only so.
          1. Malyuta 29 June 2020 15: 31 New
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            Do not bring nonsense to her God. they come only to those who asked for it. and only so.

            You are talking nonsense! Yesterday I witnessed that everyone went around at home !!!
            1. carstorm 11 29 June 2020 15: 32 New
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              and what surprised you in this?) people in different houses imagine you could leave applications) did someone come to you specifically?)))
              1. Malyuta 29 June 2020 15: 42 New
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                Quote: carstorm 11
                and what surprised you in this?) people in different houses imagine you could leave applications) did someone come to you specifically?)))

                Yesterday I was with my mother-in-law in a small town, they came to her 2 times at 17 and 19 hours, although she was at work (day / three) and voted at work to force bosses under the threat of loss of bonuses. I personally brought her a passport! From a conversation with the "lineman": "we are forced to use personal transport and pay for it," but how much they did not say is the greatest secret.
                1. carstorm 11 29 June 2020 15: 50 New
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                  it is now clear. this is possible in small and remote towns. He specified that voting in local community areas is provided for remote areas of settlements with poor transport links and is organized on the initiative of heads of administrations.

                  "The head of the settlement addresses us, prescribes the streets, which, in his opinion, are at a sufficient distance, and we, in turn, having received this initiative, turn to the election commission of the Krasnodar Territory to coordinate the holding of such an exit vote. As an example
                  1. Malyuta 29 June 2020 16: 13 New
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                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    Krasnodar Territory, so that she agreed to us to conduct such an exit vote. as an example

                    Tsapki is also from the Krasnodar Territory.
                    1. carstorm 11 29 June 2020 16: 18 New
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                      Lord, what does it have to do with ...
                      1. Malyuta 29 June 2020 16: 19 New
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                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        Oops, it has nothing to do with it ...

                        And this is Putinism!
                      2. carstorm 11 29 June 2020 16: 21 New
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                        Well, of course. Jump from topic to topic. sharply translate to another silly remarks what is it called? Hats lived in the Krasnodar Territory. excellent analogy and most importantly in essence. Bravo! applaud standing)
                      3. Malyuta 29 June 2020 22: 02 New
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                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        Well, of course. Jump from topic to topic. sharply translate to another silly remarks what is it called? Hats lived in the Krasnodar Territory. excellent analogy and most importantly in essence. Bravo! applaud standing)

                        Yeah, the hoes weren’t in the 90s, but under Putinism and were associated with the voracious gulls.
                        Enough to make candy out of shit already, there is ebnoputinism, and a candy wrapper from this shit is absolutely not important. hi
                      4. carstorm 11 29 June 2020 23: 24 New
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                        are you listening to yourself WHAT DOES THE HATCHES HAVE AT ALL? we talked about something else altogether. you sang a song about the Hats for no reason. it’s even hard to call nonsense. this is beyond understanding in principle. I have a wife who doesn’t do anything like translating a theme like that.
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                    DVR 29 June 2020 16: 54 New
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                    And this is Putinism!

                    Yeah, but chikatilo, according to your logic - Brezhnevism? You better remember Yeltsinism, there are much more examples of this.
          2. Nemchinov Vl 30 June 2020 22: 10 New
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            Quote: Malyuta
            Yesterday I was with my mother-in-law
            ....
            Quote: Malyuta
            although she was at work (day / three)
            А you are really prudent sir !!!
      3. Anatole Klim 29 June 2020 16: 39 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        Yesterday I witnessed that everyone went around at home !!!

        I don’t know why you have been instructed in cons, I’m telling you the truth. Yesterday, Sunday, the doorbell rings, I open, there is a girl - we invite you to a vote, the car brought a commission to your house, go out and vote please. To be honest, I didn’t want to, but then I went. Gazelle is standing in front of the entrance, three folding tables were pulled out, on the first they give a mask, gloves and a pen, near the second you show the passport in your hands, sign and give the ballot, on the third you put a tick and throw the ballot in the ballot box. Mom is 82 years old, walks poorly, and she didn’t go, and then she called again today, they came home and asked her to vote at home for a long time, they didn’t submit any applications. That's it yes
        1. flicker 29 June 2020 22: 14 New
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          That's it
          And what's wrong with that?
          Invite a person to vote request so thank you have to say
      4. 4ekist 29 June 2020 17: 11 New
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        You probably have 4 houses in your village?
      5. Nemchinov Vl 30 June 2020 22: 08 New
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        You are talking nonsense! Yesterday I witnessed that everyone went around at home !!!
        .... not fighters Azov battalion (!).... they collect a collection of signatures "vs" amendments, so that through international courts in The Hague and Stockholm, they could still a couple of times, in the lawsuits of UkrNaftoGaz, bend Gazprom, and you all paid for it (!). And if you don’t want to vote against, they’ll bring you scary argument about what amendments - they are for the sake of "zeroing" (!!!).
    2. realdiamond 29 June 2020 16: 49 New
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      For days, they called the intercom: "Such a volunteer, will you vote?" - No, I won’t (I didn’t want to get involved). I didn’t leave any applications.
    3. DymOk_v_dYmke 29 June 2020 18: 50 New
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      Do not bring nonsense to her God. they come only to those who asked for it. and only so.

      Sorry, this is complete nonsense.
      We can only state what you see.
      In the villages go with transparent boxing, accompanied by a policeman and offer (but do not force) to vote.
      I report as a witness to such actions.
      1. carstorm 11 29 June 2020 19: 14 New
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        I clarified this fact below. on the initiative of local authorities, remote and small settlements can do so. it’s just that a person did not initially clarify this fact in his story about going home. when clarified, I agreed with this.
  • Tank hard 29 June 2020 19: 40 New
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    Quote: Sergey39
    We go home. Already come several times.

    Nobody goes home with us. request
  • codetalker 29 June 2020 16: 07 New
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    Some kind of article is very strange. It took 4 days of voting, not 5. And the turnout (according to the CEC) was 37%.
  • KSVK 29 June 2020 14: 21 New
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    Yes, who would doubt it. The turnout is even higher, and the percentage of "in" fits into the announced forecast.
  • rocket757 29 June 2020 14: 21 New
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    Boom to wait for the outcome.
    I am exactly corrected by the amendments themselves, but how people react to this is interesting.
    1. antivirus 29 June 2020 14: 48 New
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      Now this is an aggressive-obedient majority for you, and 80-90 years ago it was a "conservative-post-serfdom overwhelming majority." here grief was missed by mandelstamas and wrangels. What needs to be done (85% in the Russian Empire) suddenly became law. WHO WAS ANYTHING, THAT WILL BECOME EVERYTHING.
      1. rocket757 29 June 2020 15: 02 New
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        Now it’s for you an aggressively obedient majority,

        It doesn’t seem ... aggressive, it’s usually some kind of action, but with us ... it’s indifferent - a static state of the “organism”, which is not so good and not so bad ... worse, he really doesn’t want to, but afraid of desire, because sho fears that it will just get worse.
        1. Malyuta 29 June 2020 15: 07 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          which is not so good Schaub and not so bad Schaub ... worse, he really does not want to, but he is afraid of wanting better, because he is afraid that it will become worse.

          The bosses forced the mother-in-law to vote, she voted against, now she curses Putin with obscene words.
          1. rocket757 29 June 2020 15: 11 New
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            Miscellaneous happens ... small-town attempts were, are and always will be. Perhaps the big boss will notice and note the works of an active, his, reliable frame.
            Everything as usual.
            1. DymOk_v_dYmke 29 June 2020 19: 10 New
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              Quote: rocket757
              Miscellaneous happens ... small-town attempts were, are and always will be.

              The chairman of the election commission won an apartment in the constitutional lottery, and several citizens tickets to the Gulag Museum

              The first of five apartments in Omsk for those who vote for the eternal rule of Vladimir Putin was accidentally won by the chairman of the precinct election commission, Anna Ganeva. Among the remaining prizes raffled - five cars. In Moscow, about 400 thousand (out of a million) of the prizes awarded give rise to different emotions. Some are satisfied by winning coupons for the purchase of products in stores "ABC of taste." Others quietly swear, not knowing who to fuse free tickets to the Gulag History Museum.
              [2020-06-27]

              http://www.apn-spb.ru/news/article32051.htm
              and https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4396460
              1. Freeman 29 June 2020 19: 47 New
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                SmokeOk_v_dYmke (Alexander) Today, 19:10

                This is how fakes concocted.
                Firstly - Link "broken" because news may already be deleted.
                Secondly - To the news about winning the apartment of the pre-election commission from Omsk, which was published on its news sites by publications claiming to be "solid" rather than "yellowness," they attributed a "fake" about "winning free tickets to the Gulag History Museum."
                I explain - in case of a win, "virtual rubles" are awarded, which can be exchanged for a "promotional code" that gives a discount for purchases in various stores and pharmacies. Visits to cafes, restaurants and museums.
                The winner chooses what to exchange his "points for".

                Scan of part of the portal page with a list of rewards, divided by category.


                This is just one line from the "All" section. And so. Choose what you like from the section of interest.
                I repeat - the winner makes the choice, and not some "lottery drum", as in the "monetary and clothing lottery" of the times of the USSR.
                No one forces you to go to the Gulag History Museum.
                And as a "gain" - does not impose.
                1. Mordvin 3 29 June 2020 22: 15 New
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                  Quote: Freeman
                  This is just one line from the "All" section. And so. Choose what you like from the section of interest.

                  And who is the sponsor of this charity?
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                    Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) Today, 22: 15
                    And who is the sponsor of this charity?

                    I suppose that the sponsor is the budget of Moscow, as cookies are distributed through the Active Citizen website. And this site is a project of the Moscow City Hall.
                    1. Mordvin 3 29 June 2020 22: 45 New
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                      I assume that the sponsor is the budget of Moscow

                      As I understand it, a lottery is held throughout the Russian Federation, and the city budget does not provide for charity lotteries, especially since in some regions there is a budget deficit. A reasonable question arises, at whose expense is the banquet?
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: Freeman
                        I assume that the sponsor is the budget of Moscow

                        As I understand it, a lottery is held throughout the Russian Federation, and the city budget does not provide for charity lotteries, especially since in some regions there is a budget deficit. A reasonable question arises, at whose expense is the banquet?

                        I can answer only for Moscow. hi
                        That is:
                        The organizers of the program are the Moscow Chamber of Commerce and the Government of Moscow.
                        https://www.mos.ru/news/item/75628073/

                        Page "program":
                        https://ag-vmeste.ru/
                2. Nemchinov Vl 30 June 2020 22: 26 New
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                  Quote: Freeman
                  No one forces you to go to the Gulag History Museum.
                  And as a "gain" - does not impose.
                  laughing out loud, when they are seriously discussing (!), stuffing, -
                  Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                  Others quietly swear, not knowing who to fuse free tickets to the Gulag History Museum.
                  such as a "gift with a value?!.... aha ha ha ha ... laughing
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  And who is the sponsor of this charity?
                  not otherwise GUB CHK NKVD !!! lol lol
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  A reasonable question arises, at whose expense is the banquet?
                  already prompted?! .... lol
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                    Nemchinov Vl (Vladimir) Today, 22:26
                    I laugh, I can’t, when seriously discussing (!), stuffing,

                    We do not discuss, but expose.
          2. 4ekist 29 June 2020 17: 16 New
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            Do not carry heresy. But didn’t they make you write compelling? Or is this a new joke about mother-in-law.
          3. Tank hard 29 June 2020 19: 41 New
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            Quote: Malyuta
            The bosses forced the mother-in-law to vote, she voted against, now she curses Putin with obscene words.

            And do not you live in Ukraine? repeat
        2. antivirus 29 June 2020 16: 31 New
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          It doesn’t seem ... aggressive, it’s usually some kind of action, but for us ... indifferent

          VERY HARDLY TAKE OWN, UNDERSTANDABLE TO US "THINKERS AND SEERS" ..... a lot is not necessary - they will have enough quantity and quality. therefore not noticeable
  • flicker 29 June 2020 14: 22 New
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    The statistics service claims that 76 percent of those who voted in favor of amendments to the Basic Law.
    drinks All the way through good
  • Eduard petrov 29 June 2020 14: 25 New
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    How easy it is to manage a crowd in the modern world ...
    1. tralflot1832 29 June 2020 15: 06 New
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      And this is the case everywhere. Whoever pays the money is music. Trump is a prime example.
      1. Alex777 29 June 2020 15: 21 New
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        Against Trump, hundreds of times more money than his. lol
        1. tralflot1832 29 June 2020 15: 25 New
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          1 million out of 10 people who are against, 1 million out of 10 people who are for Trump. Who will have more votes?
    2. Nemchinov Vl 30 June 2020 22: 31 New
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      Quote: Eduard Petrov
      How easy it is to manage a crowd in the modern world ...
      well?!, which is not certain ...
      Quote: tralflot1832
      And this is the case everywhere. Whoever pays the money is music. Trump is a prime example.
      there’s one for you, "not a good example", eg ... lol
      Quote: Alex777
      Against Trump, hundreds of times more money than his.
      which is also interesting (!).
  • fa2998 29 June 2020 14: 30 New
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    This whole circus is anti-legal! There is an article about amendments to the Constitution. A commission is created, it was, then the Duma takes it in 3 readings, it was, after the approval of the Federation Council it is signed by the President-EVERYTHING !!! All this circus is a vote in the car racks, I know how to name it but admins do not miss!
    1. flicker 29 June 2020 14: 35 New
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      This whole circus vote in the trunk of cars
      Have you voted in the trunk of a car?
      Well, could you go to the polling station? request
    2. VicktorVR 29 June 2020 14: 44 New
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      This is not a circus. A referendum on the confidence of the people in the president.
      However, “It doesn’t matter who and how to vote, it is important who and how it considers” (C).
    3. Nasrat 29 June 2020 14: 51 New
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      Quote: fa2998
      // All this circus is a vote in the luggage racks of cars, I know what to call but admins will not miss!

      What do you have against voting in the trunk?
      Voting in the trunk is fashionable in Britain and is not considered a circus, but only a democratic expression of the will of the people ... Be more democratic! wink



      1. tralflot1832 29 June 2020 15: 10 New
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        The third photo is valid. Incorrect ballots can be used immediately for their intended purpose. A roll on a light green cabinet is not visible. Probably not casual.
        1. Alex777 29 June 2020 15: 22 New
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          Come inside. The roll is there. laughing
          1. tralflot1832 29 June 2020 15: 40 New
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            The British let them come in. It’s like you can’t see him about our gopher, but he’s there. And if the voting controller took “dyufits” home during a pandemic. Judging by the photo, this is either an Arab or Sikh quarter. There’s water in general. The office is too voting dumb, immigrants just right.
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          Quote: tralflot1832
          The third photo is valid. Incorrect ballots can be used immediately for their intended purpose. A roll on a light green cabinet is not visible. Probably not casual.

          The oldest democracy !!! You won’t do anything ...
    4. 4ekist 29 June 2020 17: 20 New
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      You are clearly not enough in the election commission of the Russian Federation. The real head.
  • 7,62h54 29 June 2020 14: 37 New
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    The percentage of trust in the Dear Leader does not change from year to year.
  • Junior Warrant Officer 29 June 2020 14: 41 New
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    Of the 100.000.000 eligible Russians, 200.000.000 people visited polling stations.
    According to preliminary data, 300.000.000 people cast their votes for unwinding the counter, there are no against and no abstentions, one ballot was spoiled.
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      Quote: Junior Ensign
      against and no abstentions, one ballot is spoiled.

      They wiped away what they had to wipe.
  • DVR
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    A pleasant natural result, which is quite consistent with the picture observed in reality (not on sites filled with protrols) bully
    1. Malyuta 29 June 2020 15: 22 New
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      A nice natural result, which is quite consistent with the picture observed in reality (not on sites filled with protrols) bully

      Have you been out of self-isolation since March, do you still talk to the TV and the parrot? wink
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        DVR 29 June 2020 15: 52 New
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        Have you been out of self-isolation since March, do you still talk to the TV and the parrot? wink

        No, I already had time to work, as I already mentioned here, and from today a long-awaited vacation :) Next week, mountains and the sea. And I sympathize with you, you also suffer from nausea, did not listen to my words :)
        1. Malyuta 29 June 2020 15: 59 New
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          Next week, mountains and sea.

          Do not forget to pay the tourist fee, otherwise Putin will be upset, because he has little dough left laughing
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            DVR 29 June 2020 16: 12 New
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            Do not forget to pay the tourist fee

            I have not yet been touched by any fees. My modest income is enough for a wonderful vacation. Though not in Bali or the Maldives, but we have plenty of beautiful places. And caves, and waterfalls, and mountains with forests, and the beautiful sea ...
    2. Alex777 29 June 2020 15: 24 New
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      Yes, people are fooled by publication curves.
      So far, for amendments (based on a survey where 30% of voters refused to answer) 53% of all. hi
      A moronic publication of sociologists will lead to the fact that those who are for - do not go, and those who are against - on the contrary, go.
  • BAI
    BAI 29 June 2020 14: 48 New
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    76 percent of those who voted in favor of amendments to the Basic Law.

    Already 78. Peskov said that he knows nothing about the fact that state employees are forced to vote. Power, as always, has nothing to do with it. All initiatives from the bottom.
    1. Pereira 29 June 2020 14: 52 New
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      Peskov is not interested. He needs a result, and a way - the lot of grassroots performers.
    2. Malyuta 29 June 2020 15: 23 New
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      Quote: BAI
      Already 78. Peskov said that he knows nothing

      His boss said that he always carries a blizzard. wassat
      1. DVR
        DVR 29 June 2020 16: 19 New
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        His boss said that he always carries a blizzard.

        Do not lie, Malyuta, he said literally: "He carries sometimes such a blizzard .. " wassat
    3. flicker 29 June 2020 15: 35 New
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      that state employees are forced to vote.
      Among relatives and acquaintances it is full of state employees and nobody said that they are forced to vote.
      Z.Y. Especially since you can vote against.
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      So come up with something else bully
      1. tralflot1832 29 June 2020 15: 53 New
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        For Putin I had to take a ticket to report. For the amendments, generally silence, as if nothing was passing.
      2. Malyuta 29 June 2020 15: 55 New
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        Quote: flicker
        So come up with something else

        But why invent it, Putinism himself invented everything, always lie, everywhere and for any reason.
        Personally, I do not recognize this vote!
        1. Alex777 29 June 2020 16: 34 New
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          Why do you need a law? The law is not written to you. wink
        2. AU Ivanov. 29 June 2020 16: 46 New
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          Who is interested in your opinion? Sane people approved the amendments.
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          But why invent it, Putinism himself invented everything, always lie, everywhere and for any reason.
          Personally, I do not recognize this vote!
          and two days later back to mother (!) ...?! You said she was just day / three works ?! . winked Well, that’s right ... lol and in the family there are fewer quarrels ... yes
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        BAI 29 June 2020 16: 43 New
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        So come up with something else

        Why come up with? I am a state employee and today I have personally reported.
  • Tank jacket 29 June 2020 14: 48 New
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    So I say that 76 percent is fair majority approval! So it's time to grow up and look at the situation objectively.
    1. unaha 29 June 2020 14: 57 New
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      Yes, it's all clear ... One tell me, where are you all hiding? Although ... on the other hand, in any bodies related to budget financing, I already have no close friends. Probably everything is there ...
      1. Tank jacket 29 June 2020 17: 32 New
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        After the amendments enter into force, grant-eaters will have to hide, don’t you? wink
        1. unaha 30 June 2020 11: 38 New
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          Are you concerned with the consequences of the amendments only to "grant-eaters"? I do not like the possibility of the president making (at least this, at least subsequent) almost any decisions and the lack of mechanisms to prevent decisions and disastrous actions for the country. Full accountability to the president of the government, federation, court. We already had an emperor; how did the reign of the latter end? Probably it is not necessary to remind?
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            “I don’t like the possibility of the president making (at least this, at least subsequent) almost any decisions and the lack of mechanisms to prevent decisions and actions catastrophic for the country. Full control of the president of the government, federal council, court.”
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            In more detail, please, otherwise "the king is good, the boyars are bad", inconsistently, somehow. Do you need control of the government by the president or not? crying
            And what about the State Duma now to the government? Is involved? repeat
            1. unaha 2 July 2020 10: 46 New
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              "the king is good, the boyars are bad" - from which follows this conclusion?
              “Whether the president needs control over the government or not” depends on what is meant by “control”. If the right to dismiss the government with unsatisfactory performance, then yes. If direct intervention in the activity - no.
              "And how is the State Duma now to the government? Participating?" - What are you about? What does the legislature have to do with the executive?
              1. Tank jacket 2 July 2020 10: 48 New
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                "" And how about the State Duma now to the government? Participates? "- what are you talking about? What does the legislature have to do with the executive?" "Read the amendments ... Wahaha ... drinks
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                  If it does not complicate, specify the question. I read the amendments, of course.
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                    The part where the State Duma and the government.
      2. Sergej1972 29 June 2020 18: 31 New
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        In the public sector (education, science, culture), in government, in the army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, as well as in state corporations and corporations with state participation, etc. it’s more like working together with the people than in small and medium-sized businesses, the fate of which many are so worried about.
  • Fungus 29 June 2020 15: 01 New
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    The amendments are important. So they vote a lot.
  • Oleg Skvortsov 29 June 2020 15: 11 New
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    30 million voted? Probably, they covered all state employees, all hospitals, including psychiatric departments, the army, the National Guard, security guards (much without them). And I’m not sure that they all taken together - 30 million and they gave 76% approval. All this is clowning
    1. flicker 29 June 2020 15: 40 New
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      Understand, bully you need to throw something on the fan
      including psychiatric wards
      Very funny ... laughing especially if you don’t think: where is the guarantee that they will vote in favor?
      Trindet not bags tossing.
    2. tralflot1832 29 June 2020 15: 57 New
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      The prisoners were forgotten! They will vote for the amnesty as necessary. Ukrainians with dual citizenship will also catch up. And here is the desired result!
      1. Nemchinov Vl 30 June 2020 22: 48 New
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        Ukrainians dual citizenship also catch up.
        ?! Seriously ?! why should they ?!... there seems relatively dual citizenship is not ice ?!.... Toli case in Ukraine (!) ... All heads of supervisory boards state companies and large corporations, - foreigners, or persons with just dual citizenship !!!... you hike for the same ??? (!)
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          I meant the Ukrainians receiving a pension in Ukraine and Russia. And there are a lot of such people. The GVP is loyal to such Ukrainians, but another will come and block oxygen.
    3. 4ekist 29 June 2020 17: 26 New
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      You can not vote. Take a ticket to a psychiatrist and use this day to good use.
  • parusnik 29 June 2020 15: 11 New
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    Yesterday, I read in the news that the CEC received 116 complaints about coercion to vote ...
    1. flicker 29 June 2020 15: 45 New
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      I read in the news that the CEC received 116 complaints about coercion to vote
      I guess who, here in the VO there are just a hundred of these: ... svarog, stas, sylvester, Lexus ... bully
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      And to go weak and vote against, since you were forced to?
      No, you have to whine!
      In the training manual said "forced to vote", then it is necessary to promote this topic.
      Rotten, by the way. negative
      1. parusnik 29 June 2020 16: 32 New
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        Do not take me weakly laughing Unlike you, in 1993 I did not vote for the pro-American Constitution, as they say now, which has deprived everyone of sovereignty. laughing I have not yet lost my mind to vote, for or against, amendments to what I voted against. laughing
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          Do not take me weakly
          It was like it was not about you, but about 116 complainants who were "forced" ...
          They can vote against, and not complain.
          Yes, and it looks funny ... forced to vote ...
  • Ross xnumx 29 June 2020 15: 19 New
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    The main thing is that when calculating the voters there shouldn’t be 146%.
    There are 2 voters in Kuzbass. Today on the site I was given a multifora with a mask, one-time gloves, a price list with the name of the amendments (for home study) and a fountain pen. the total cost of the contents is approximately 000 rubles. I no longer take street advertising and pay for employees who have to work on the site for 000 days.
    Question: is there really nowhere in the Kuzbass to spend 100 rubles, knowing in advance that the results of the vote will not change anything in the already adopted law?
    FARS OF PURE WATER.
    Kuzbass took the second place, losing only to the Republic of Tuva. In the Kemerovo region, about 795 people out of nearly 900 million voters voted, writes TASS with reference to the CEC of the Russian Federation.
  • prior 29 June 2020 15: 19 New
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    If we take it in Russian, then in 5 days a little more than 21% of all voters voted for the amendments.
    It will not be enough, is it, Mr. President?
  • tagil 29 June 2020 15: 23 New
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    For garbage cats that live in this garbage.
    Since the vote has already begun, I will write again.
    Political and administrative aspects do not matter. All this will change a hundred times.
    The values ​​affirmed in the new constitution are of value.
    God
    Family
    State-forming Russian people
    Millennial history
    All this matters both in and of itself, and because it further pushes us away from the degenerating "world community" destroying monuments and spitting on our fathers.
    It is for this that we must vote.
    And if you think that at the last judgment they will not ask us “why did you renounce Me, knowing that My name is persecuted so?”, Then you should not think so.
  • seregin-s1 29 June 2020 15: 37 New
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    I didn’t think that there would be so many piles and skakuas here.
    1. flicker 29 June 2020 18: 52 New
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      I didn’t think that there were so many piles and skakuas here
      There are 100 people, today there are not so many of them.
      It seems that they are shocked by the results of VTsIOM - they tried to convince others that the people would be against the amendments - but in the end they “convinced” themselves, and so thoroughly that now they cannot believe in reality.

      It seems like a lot of bad guys. crying

      But I warned them not so long ago. They were busy. request
      1. habaroff.ven 29 June 2020 20: 07 New
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        Not fazyupyen, rulyovskaya blyuzatyana.
        1. flicker 29 June 2020 22: 38 New
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          Are you sick? We want to say something articulate, but it doesn’t work out? bully
    2. 4ekist 29 June 2020 22: 37 New
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      Exactly, the bulk-yutubyaty, horses @ hlata, liberals and sexual minorities. I hear a friendly choir.
  • cokol-xnumx 29 June 2020 15: 55 New
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    parents have already voted in favor, and on Wednesday July 1 I’ll go too for the amendments and vote and see at the same time how many people will be for fun
    1. Alex777 29 June 2020 16: 38 New
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      When I went on the second day - 2 people were on the site. sad
  • NordUral 29 June 2020 15: 58 New
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    76%! It reminds me of something, sort of like March 18th.
  • flicker 29 June 2020 15: 59 New
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    "Forced them" bully
    Like a certain character: "Not for selfish gain, but only by the will of the wife who sent me" wassat
  • NordUral 29 June 2020 16: 15 New
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    Also at this time in Moscow and the Nizhny Novgorod region there is a vote on amendments to the Constitution in electronic form. This opportunity has already taken advantage of 80 percent of voters who registered in advance. Out of more than 1 registered e-voting participants, the number of people casting their votes exceeded 190 thousand.

    They have an amazingly active electorate.
  • Gardamir 29 June 2020 16: 20 New
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    Interestingly, the vote is on, but the campaign continues
    1. Vladimir Mashkov 29 June 2020 16: 32 New
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      And, notice, basically - YOUR efforts.
      1. Gardamir 29 June 2020 18: 55 New
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        You think I'm on TV commercials spinning. And me too in the subway?
  • BIABIA 29 June 2020 16: 42 New
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    "And remember, if there is a flower on the election commission’s window, then the turnout is failed ...")
    Apparently, there is no flower, everyone rushed to vote urgently ...
  • strelokmira 29 June 2020 16: 45 New
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    based on some anonymous exit polls, 76 percent voted

    Stop a week ago, there was already talk about ZA in the amount of 76%)) The results were leaked in advance wink
    1. tatra 29 June 2020 16: 52 New
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      Yes, the Putin VTsIOM always gives numbers in advance, which then will be drawn by the Putin CEC.
  • tatra 29 June 2020 16: 59 New
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    There was the Yeltsin Constitution, the Yeltsin-Putin Constitution became, and Putin’s propagandists will have to remove from the manuals that Putin’s Yeltsin’s Constitution is always hindering Putin.
  • Poru4ik 29 June 2020 17: 15 New
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    Not mine, fucked up on the Internet. This is about 76%

    The author is Nikolai Travkin.
    Another servant cleaned the virus
    A black jeep Grand Cherokee, which people who at least know a little about the history of their homeland, is called a “funnel”, drove into the courtyard of a Moscow elite house at 4 a.m. Three strong-built men in identical gray suits entered the porch, went up to the floor and went to the door ...

    But it turned out that they were late. The door opened, before they had time to ring, and from it the ambulance officers carried out the head of the VTsIOM on a stretcher. Already lifeless ...

    The iPhone was beeping at 3 in the morning. The chief Kremlin sociologist woke up and cursed: “Who doesn’t sleep in the dead of night?” A friend from New York called. The Americans had another evening, and they naively believed that the whole world lives by their clock. A friend was interested in the fact that there is hot news on the Bloomberg tape that Putin’s rating according to VTsIOM for April fell to 27%. Say is this true? And if true, then didn’t the coup take place in the Kremlin?

    The first thought of the head of VTsIOM was: “Confused,!”

    That is, subordinates, stunned by drunkenness at the удал, ке »иру,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин, подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин подчин therefore, subordinates, stunned by drunkenness on the" remote ", where they sent the coronavirus epidemic, a package with data from a closed poll, intended for the 1st deputy of the Presidential Administration, was sent to the media. This thought turned out to be the last. The forehead was covered with cold perspiration, a hot needle pierced the brain, and the iPhone fell from the weakened hand of a man who knew how to guess what the Russians were thinking.

    Therefore, people in white coats who arrived at the call of his wife, who sensed something was wrong with her sensitive heart, and carried his lifeless body out of the apartment on a stretcher ...

    Damn you, coronavirus, which ruthlessly kills our best, state people!
    ➡ Source: https://www.publizist.ru/blogs/109589/36028/-
  • Ross xnumx 29 June 2020 17: 17 New
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    Still, you need to bring joy to the discussion of the process:
  • Snail N9 29 June 2020 17: 17 New
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    Who would doubt that there would be "at least 75%." Even before this “vote” more than once, media statements flashed that at least 75% of the population “approved” the “amendments”. So that everything is in a voiced trend. wink yes lol
  • habaroff.ven 29 June 2020 17: 35 New
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    Bitter and insulting for our Russian people. Patience, not men. Some kind of dough, from which noodles are made and hung on the ears. I would try to make fun of the rounded French so.
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      DVR 29 June 2020 18: 08 New
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      Bitter and insulting for our Russian people. Patience, not men. Some kind of dough, from which noodles are made and hung on the ears. I would try to make fun of the rounded French so.

      Proud of our people, well done men. Do not give once again hang noodles on the ears.
  • parusnik 29 June 2020 17: 58 New
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    "Flying over the cuckoo’s nest" .... Everyone who voted in 1993 for the pro-American Constitution, after 27 years sru..hhhh, they are discussing voting for amendments that will be adopted regardless of the result of the vote ... Those who voted against in 1993 are also surprised vote for or against amendments, against which they voted ... laughing
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      DVR 29 June 2020 18: 25 New
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      Surprisingly, those who voted against in 1993 go to vote for or against amendments, to which they voted against ...

      People want to contribute to changing the state of things. If such an opportunity exists, why not? Your position is also not entirely logical.
      Unlike you, in 1993 I did not vote for the pro-American Constitution, as they say now, which deprived everyone of sovereignty. laughing I have not lost my mind to vote, for or against, amendments to what I voted against. laughing

      You did not vote in 1993, but you are forced to live under the Constitution against which you voted, and you cannot get anywhere while you live in Russia. Do you want to continue to live "under the Constitution", for which they did not vote? Your right. Someone decided differently and decided to vote for changing the Constitution, which, like you, was voted in 1993. People see in the amendments what was missing in 1993. Therefore, in 1993 they voted “against”, and now - “for”.
      1. parusnik 29 June 2020 19: 06 New
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        I voted against, that’s the difference ... As the Pro-American Constitution was, it remained so. It was written under the presidency, and it remains so ... Cherry will not run out, beets will not blossom after amendments or no amendments ... But you hope, and suddenly the cones on the birch grow. I myself am glad to be deceived, but somehow I do not want to ...
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          I voted against, that’s the difference ...

          I wrote about those above, who voted against in the 93rd. "Someone decided differently and decided to vote for changing the Constitution, which, like you, was voted in 1993."
          I myself am glad to be deceived, but somehow I do not want to ...

          I’d better risk "cheating", maybe something will turn out. For the alternative is not at all deceptive. In my opinion, these amendments do not worsen the situation, but they may improve it (IMHO). In no case do I refuse to others, like you, the right to have their own position, a personal matter.
          1. parusnik 29 June 2020 19: 53 New
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            Yes, we’ll rely on the Russian chance ... I don’t argue, they will improve it. They’re improving it. From the electric company, I received a notification that electricity has risen in price this month ... Of course, they will improve ... people will have happiness, happiness forever, because we have power , strong arm .... And how to get out at the parade ... laughing
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              DVR 29 June 2020 20: 17 New
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              that electricity has risen in price this month

              There are many on the site of the afflicted laughing All days sitting and whining in the comments. If only they tried to work, or this is their vocation. I hope that even though you are not starving, it will remain for food after the excessive payment for electricity. And then there’s not enough strength for the parade wink
  • Knell wardenheart 29 June 2020 18: 09 New
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    There is nothing surprising in these figures; there is another juggling of terms and%, designed to shake the minds and draw attention to this dumb initiative. More than 80% of those registered in electronic voting are not just registered there. A significant part of these people, called "softly forced", are state employees, the near-party element, officials, security officials, etc. Since we have quite inflated states, you yourself understand. The real interest in this whole initiative is about 30 million. About 26 million of the population of the Russian Federation are children and adolescents (not so long ago this figure sounded in the media). Let’s say 4 million are in an openly dysfunctional state, someone is abroad, someone is sitting, there are ~ 115-118 million remaining (from 148 million in total statistical) - we boldly take the figure of 110 million (and it will even be underestimated) in order to consider this figure people who are affected by this vote.
    We are told that 31 million people have already voted - I am very skeptical of one million registered people, well seriously .. as Lobkov’s case showed, it’s muddy water and maybe a second vote, but even if not, to drive a million bonded laborers is a question.
    It remains about 30 million - a little more than a quarter of these 110 million. What day is it there? Fourth fifth ? And how many of these people (out of ~ 27%) voted “Against”?
    It is very clearly seen in this way that despite horsebacks, 3/4 people in general don’t care at all to promote this campaign. So here juggle — don’t juggle what the table is and the chair :-)
  • Nicknt 29 June 2020 18: 25 New
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    Quote: Looking Petrovich
    Quote: Sergey 777
    The statistics service claims that 76 percent of those who voted in favor of amendments to the Basic Law.

    Uh ... strange to say the least.

    76% of them are so customary to draw. Edro in the Duma also has 76% of the seats, although no one votes for it.

    This number is registered in the CEC training manual, and now it will still be enshrined in a worn-out constitution
  • Old26 29 June 2020 19: 00 New
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    We go home. Already come several times.

    Maybe they go somewhere, but none of the acquaintances knows about this. I would like to have a look at me ... I’ll have to go vote for the amendments myself, which I will certainly do in the near future.

    To do this, the EMNIP had to inform the precinct commission before the 21st day that you want you to come home. Or through the older house, if the house is multi-family.
    Well, then - according to the scheme
  • Ryaruav 29 June 2020 19: 08 New
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    if we take the regions without cities of over one million people, then everyone who has a salary of 40 or more and who has a pension of 20 or more will definitely vote for amendments, Putin, and all this quadrille for 30 years
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      Quote: Ryaruav
      if we take the regions without cities of over one million people, then everyone who has a salary of 40 or more and who has a pension of 20 or more will definitely vote for amendments, Putin, and all this quadrille for 30 years

      Outside of the "millionaires," such salaries and pensions still need to be found. Although ... I have a grandmother (already deceased, blessed with her memory) with all the allowances received 18 thousand with rubles. But: a long experience, disability, three children and an age of 80 ... But salaries of 40 thousand and more are quite worthless, it is difficult to get into them.
  • Old26 29 June 2020 19: 10 New
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    Quote: Oleg Skvortsov
    30 million voted? Probably, they covered all state employees, all hospitals, including psychiatric departments, the army, the National Guard, security guards (much without them). And I’m not sure that they all taken together - 30 million and they gave 76% approval. All this is clowning

    And residents, citizens of the Russian Federation, dust for you? You do not consider them? Normal people?
  • Petrol cutter 29 June 2020 19: 22 New
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    Someone's liquid somehow.
    At our factory, the turnout is at least eighty percent. But rather it will strive for a hundred. After explanatory conversations with non-conscious elements.
    And here are some miserable twenty-eight! ... However, the people were crushing.
    Then they sing songs, but they didn’t ask us ... But we didn’t go ...
    So go dear friends. What is the problem ?! Express your thoughts wise, in the open spaces of paper. hi
  • seregin-s1 29 June 2020 19: 37 New
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    I voted for Putin and for constitutional amendments! I managed to feel the traitors of the people inside. I am 53 years old. As an officer, the terrible collapse of the army, as the head of the family, survival conditions. Howl komunyaki and heaped up! Your end is coming! You will work, and we will force you to study!
    1. Tank hard 29 June 2020 19: 55 New
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      Quote: seregin-s1
      I voted for Putin and for constitutional amendments!

      Well then, your position, you have every right. I have a mother born in 1951, a retired Interior Ministry captain. has government awards. And has its own opinion. I went and voted for the amendments, although I tried to dissuade. But the line with two former Soviet officers are forced to do something against his will. I respect her choice. And you. hi
    2. Mordvin 3 29 June 2020 22: 26 New
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      Quote: seregin-s1
      Howl komunyaki

      You yourself, ohvitser, have never been a communist-Komsomol-pioneer, of course?
      1. Freeman 29 June 2020 22: 50 New
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        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: seregin-s1
        Howl komunyaki

        You yourself, ohvitser, have never been a communist-Komsomol-pioneer, of course?

        As for the "ohwitser", you correctly noticed it.
        Judging by the text
        I am 53 years old. As an officer, the terrible collapse of the army, as the head of the family, survival conditions. Howl komunyaki and heaped up! Your end is coming!

        - Probably along with Wrangel in 1920 he was evacuated from Crimea.
        And with age, obviously modest.
        Not 53, but 153 - the first “nullified" in the history of Russia! wassat laughing / sarcasm /
  • Serpet 29 June 2020 19: 47 New
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    Strange ... We have data from exit pools diametrically opposed.
  • Anton Sverlov 29 June 2020 19: 53 New
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    Voting is not about choice, but about the legitimization of the decision made above. And this is completely normal, because the country is ruled by the bourgeoisie, and not by any "Vasi" from these of your Internet. The bourgeois state, it is up to them to decide what should be and how it should be ... And no change of government, prime minister or even the guarantor himself (oh my God) will change nothing. So all these conversations around, they are in favor of the poor ... Only a change in the state system as a whole can bring changes, but this does not threaten us in the foreseeable future.
  • orionvitt 29 June 2020 20: 16 New
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    I read the comments, and was very surprised. And Russia fell under the epidemic of global stupor of a part of the population who are against fundamental amendments to the constitution. And the matter is far from Putin, this is a trifle. My rule is simple. If Navalny, Venidiktovs, and all sorts of Gozmans-shmozmans, earnestly yell that you need to vote against, then definitely, you need to vote for. If in the West and Ukraine, bleeding poison, they say that the Russian constitution was "raped" (they would look at their own laughing ), then without options, Russia is doing everything right.
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    3. Foolfox 1 July 2020 11: 05 New
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      I totally agree! It is believed that more than half of the amendments have not been read. They saw - Putin - and they immediately began to burn ... Why read the amendments? Why think with your own head? There is YouTube)) There is Navalny with ducks)) My opinion is that some of those present are not smart people, some are mishandled Cossacks ... My brother voted against it. To the question of why, he answered: "Well, Putin will become president again, the country will be plundered ...". For me, this is an indicator ... but the fact that you, petty for ****, studied for free, bought an apartment, bought a car and plan a vacation at sea - this is from a bad life under Putin ... Curtain!
      1. orionvitt 1 July 2020 12: 44 New
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        Quote: FoolFox
        I totally agree!

        Just in the next branch (about the launch of the Falcon), there were enough minuses from individuals who believe that Putin is slowing down the state. He reminded them that they had a bad memory, how Putin himself pulled the country out of the 90s, such a r .... rose. It turns out that “the 90s were a long time ago”, “it's time to forget”, they say in the “21st century we live”, “Putin is the main problem” of Russia and “must leave”. In general, the whole set. Moreover, they do not offer alternatives, they simply repeat the mantra, "Putin must leave." What people have in their heads, I don’t understand at all.
  • Imperial Technocrat 29 June 2020 20: 44 New
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    76% - excellent result, even better than expected good
  • Koval Sergey 29 June 2020 20: 57 New
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    Outright agitation. But it is prohibited during the voting period.
    1. seregin-s1 29 June 2020 21: 26 New
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      You are confused with something. Campaigning is prohibited the day before the election. Are we picking someone?
  • Aleks2000 29 June 2020 21: 13 New
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    Did someone think he won’t be for?
    76% is a convenient pre-determined figure. Just like for edra, for which no one voted, but 76% have ....
  • Ulysses 29 June 2020 22: 18 New
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    Quote: Alex777
    The neighbors bounced repeatedly:
    After Kravchuk there was Kuchma-get.
    After Kuchma - Yushchenko fear.
    After Yushchenko - Yanukovych-Zlochnin.
    After Yanukovych - Poroshenko.
    Well, now Zelensky. wink
    Do you want to learn from your mistakes?
    I would be preferable to strangers. hi



    History teaches that teaches nothing.
    Each time, regular fanatics with an unhealthy gleam in their eyes believe that their result will converge with their plan.
  • Petrol cutter 29 June 2020 22: 36 New
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    And here is agitation?!. Conversation over the turnout is ongoing.
    And the secret of the vote, no one has yet been canceled by gentlemen and ladies!
    Do not confuse the south coast of the north sea with the north coast of the south.
  • Klingon 30 June 2020 02: 16 New
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    Quote: Klingon
    yes, herd feeling, base instinct, but it works. here's an example for you: my wife voted against, I don’t vote because I can’t TC. I don’t have any snails there (I don’t even know that it’s TC, we have been living in Germany for a long time, but we have Russian citizenship) and would have voted against it. A mother-in-law and grandmother voted FOR, my wife and I asked damn what for voted? and my mother-in-law is gritting and what, "Lucy (sister) Voted FOR, well, we too"
    And believe me, these are the majority who do not think with their own head but do it like everyone

    By your delirium, I still do not understand, are you FOR or AGAIN? are you sculpting about your mother-in-law, about my spouse, about ..... The head itself, as she herself thinks, or does Frau Merkel listen to the broadcast?

    Amiable prim .... with what fright are you with me on you? learn to read first, let me remind you, the first letter in the alphabet A! (not B not P not X and not S) so. I explain for the gifted. I am against the amendments and consider them nonsense. I can’t vote because I don’t have SNILS. Well, he didn’t dream of me what to do!
  • Whirlwind 30 June 2020 07: 29 New
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    "Do not count your chickens before they are hatched"