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Sohu: Western experts believe that the combat power of the Chinese FD-2000 air defense systems is similar to the Russian S-400

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In the Chinese edition of Sohu, material appeared that talks about "the significant successes that have been achieved in terms of production and export of air defense systems." It is noted that if earlier China was exclusively engaged in the import of anti-aircraft missile systems (from Russia), now it is already competing with Russia on the international arms market.


An example of successful export logistics is the HQ-9 anti-aircraft missile system, which it supplies to several countries around the world under the export designation FD-2000. To date, among the buyers of this Chinese air defense complex are states such as Algeria, Morocco, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. According to some reports, such complexes were delivered to Pakistan.

At the same time, China is trying not to focus on the fact that the HQ-9 air defense system ("Red Banner-9") was at one time created on the basis of the Russian S-300. It can be stated that both the HQ-9 and its export version of the FD-2000 are the Chinese "clone" of the Russian S-300 air defense system. And now at Sohu, they are proud that, having actually adopted Russian technologies, they enter the international market with them under the brand name “Made in China”.

About some features of the FD-2000


The maximum range of target interception is 200 km, in height - up to 30 km, the number of missiles in the launcher is 4, and the average deployment time is about 6 minutes. At the same time, the FD-2000 air defense system is capable of detecting targets at a distance of no more than 120 km, the covered area is 125 thousand square meters. km

From the material in Sohu, which states that the new versions of the FD-2000 are “comparable to the S-400” in their specifications:

There are two main reasons why the FD-2000 is popular in Morocco and other countries: although the first FD-2000 is known as the “Chinese version of the S-300,” its actual combat power is much higher than that of the S-300. According to an analysis of Western military experts, the combat power of the Chinese FD-2000 is similar to the Russian S-400. However, in terms of selling price, the FD-2000 is even cheaper than the S-300.

What kind of "Western military experts" consider the characteristics of the FD-2000 and S-400 air defense systems "similar" remains a mystery. As well as why, with the declared "similarity" of the systems, China chose to buy exactly the S-400.
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  2. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 29 June 2020 13: 18
    +7
    Sohu, who are these ??? The mouthpiece of the Chinese army?
    1. Aleksandre
      Aleksandre 29 June 2020 14: 42
      +6
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      Sohu, who are these ??? The mouthpiece of the Chinese army?

      Mail, Yandex, Sohu ...
      Yandex Zen ever read ?, Here, analytics of the same level.
    2. avg
      avg 29 June 2020 16: 28
      +2
      Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
      Sohu, who are these ??? The mouthpiece of the Chinese army?

      Rather, it’s a cunningly wise PR manager of everything Chinese from the Communist Party to space, and at the same time a master in passing, accidentally kick the competitors.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 29 June 2020 17: 00
        +8
        The Chinese propaganda works in a communist way.
        So they won the tender for delivery to Turkey several years ago.
        But in the end, what did the Turks buy? Our S-400. Although during the tender we got acquainted in detail with Chinese systems. And the price was good. But no.
        As far as I know, the Chinese could not make the lower limit of interception below 150 m. And we have 10 m. The Chinese have no missiles per 400 km. That's all... hi
    3. SS-18
      SS-18 29 June 2020 17: 27
      11
      themselves will not praise .. no one will notice them)
  3. Oleg kubanoid
    Oleg kubanoid 29 June 2020 13: 22
    11
    this is an advertisement .. there’s nothing special to discuss here ..
  4. Doccor18
    Doccor18 29 June 2020 13: 23
    +8
    Western experts believe that the combat power of the Chinese FD-2000 air defense systems is similar to the Russian S-400

    They can count anything.
    But the Chinese, as they bought Russian anti-aircraft systems, will continue to buy them. Why would ..
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 29 June 2020 13: 28
      0
      But they have an upward movement. With their geography and politics, this is important. Tomorrow, whatever Medvedev will not allow to sell or freeze the supply of C400, but they have. So it was, for example, with AWACS = Il76 + Israeli radar. As a result, China itself made a radar. And now he makes them
    2. dauria
      dauria 29 June 2020 13: 47
      +2
      But the Chinese, as they bought Russian anti-aircraft systems, will continue to buy them.


      We buy only radio components in China. So far for modern consumer goods, but also in the "military" are already appearing. A matter of time, they held out on the Soviet reserve for so long. All KM capacitors, all gilded connectors and transistors have already been handed over to Caucasians for melting. laughing It’s time to wake up. They crushed the "open doors of the world market" electronics in the Russian Federation.
    3. alone
      alone 29 June 2020 13: 48
      +5
      Quote: Doccor18
      They can count anything.
      But the Chinese, as they bought Russian anti-aircraft systems, will continue to buy them. Why would ..

      They are cunning .. They buy from Russia, copy, sell copies cheaper than Russia, capturing the arms market, and buy the original for the money they make .. Besides, sometimes they also offer the buyer production technology
      Result: Capturing from Russia its traditional market for air defense systems due to the systems copied from Russia.
  5. Lebed
    Lebed 29 June 2020 13: 35
    +5
    it remained a mystery why, given the declared "similarity" of the complexes, China chose to buy exactly the S-400

    What's there to guess? Wanna HQ-Next Generation "Develop"
  6. Poetry
    Poetry 29 June 2020 13: 36
    -6
    The Chinese in the leader's yellow shirt pulled ahead. Congratulations
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 29 June 2020 13: 47
      +2
      it remains to find out "forward" this is where?
      1. Poetry
        Poetry 29 June 2020 13: 49
        +4
        Apparently towards the Sino-Indian border.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 29 June 2020 13: 37
    +3
    We believe, we do not believe, for any, former customers will eventually become competitors !!! if not already, they are.
    There is only one way out - to do it faster, higher, with eyes and more slaughter ... i.e. definitely BETTER !!!
    The task is difficult, but ... binding.
    Yes, better keep your secrets !!! Having traded today on the rupe, tomorrow you will lose TEN!
  8. Svetlana
    Svetlana 29 June 2020 13: 39
    +4
    Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
    Sohu, who are these ??? The mouthpiece of the Chinese army?

    This is the favorite portal to learn Chinese copy paste.
  9. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 29 June 2020 13: 46
    +7
    all that the Chinese themselves do is something with something.
    I don’t wish anyone to encounter their equipment that is in operation, that is under repair
  10. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 29 June 2020 13: 49
    +6
    I remember about 4 years ago they wanted to deliver HQ to the 9 Turks. It didn’t work. The clone was always worse than the original. The Turks thought so, they didn’t bother with them from NATO. And they weren’t afraid of the C 400.
  11. Prisoner
    Prisoner 29 June 2020 13: 56
    +1
    Sohu, Western experts are trolling you.
  12. Poetry
    Poetry 29 June 2020 13: 56
    +3
    Actually, they had their own purely Chinese developments, not stolen from us and our "likely partners" ???
  13. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 29 June 2020 14: 47
    +1
    Chinese scientists are the eastern counterpart of the British
  14. Vitaliy Zalutsky
    Vitaliy Zalutsky 29 June 2020 14: 51
    +4
    I think its power is immediately equal to S-700, which is shy ...
  15. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 29 June 2020 14: 52
    +2
    Defensive missiles .. can be called MILITARY POWER?
    As a rumor cuts, in this SOKHU some profane people write articles that do not know anything about weapons.
  16. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 29 June 2020 15: 41
    -1
    How did these "specialists" determine the combat power of the Chinese counterparts of the S-300? Did these sold SAMs take part in intense hostilities? And showed high efficiency? It's like in Russia - what is not a slingshot of the RF Ministry of Defense, then "has no analogue in the world."
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 29 June 2020 17: 16
      -2
      Quote: TatarinSSSR
      Did these sold air defense systems really participate in intense hostilities?

      In fairness, not a comment for. In intense hostilities took part: C75, C125, C200. C 300 or its modification C400. Not for intensive databases - that's why they don’t fly
      1. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 29 June 2020 17: 29
        0
        In fairness, not for comment. S-300, S-400 primarily air defense systems. And they did not participate in any, even brief, databases. So their effectiveness against modern military air targets is not known. Who did not fly? Where? They fly in Syria. All and sundry. Israel generally bomb there almost every day. So what? But nothing. Zero.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 29 June 2020 17: 50
          0
          Quote: TatarinSSSR
          S-300, S-400 primarily air defense systems. And they did not participate in any, even brief, databases.

          So I already answered. Which dumkopf will fly to find out?
          1. TatarinSSSR
            TatarinSSSR 29 June 2020 19: 54
            0
            I also answered, the same Israelis flew to find out. To Syria. Where are the S-300s? And everyone is flying. Found out. What is not a hindrance.
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 29 June 2020 20: 02
              0
              Quote: TatarinSSSR
              And everyone is flying. Found out. What is not a hindrance.

              Well, in general, Mr. BBC in the Kremlin found out hi S-300 donated to Syria has not yet been deployed. And ours? We guard Hmeimim and Tratus. How much failed? Lot. For sim and say goodbye
  17. Tusv
    Tusv 29 June 2020 17: 10
    -2
    Here 6 years ago, and Barack - 8 advertised., With missiles 5 times more and in speed 20% less than the weapons of the near Shell
  18. Old26
    Old26 29 June 2020 18: 26
    +1
    Let us leave the characteristics of the Chinese air defense systems on the conscience of the authors from this publication (Sohu), but they write the truth in the sense that if the PRC previously imported air defense systems, now it exports.

    Quote: tralflot1832
    I remember about 4 years ago they wanted to deliver HQ to the 9 Turks. It didn’t work. The clone was always worse than the original. The Turks thought so, they didn’t bother with them from NATO. And they weren’t afraid of the C 400.

    Not certainly in that way. To begin with, not 4 years ago, but 7 (in 2013 there was a tender). Our S-300 system was inferior to the Chinese HQ-9 system. And the Turks would have taken it, but then the Americans were able to put pressure on the Turks and the contract was not implemented. With the S-400 system, they were not afraid, because it is necessary and better to replace the old air defense systems with something newer than the American systems 0 years ago
  19. Vdi73
    Vdi73 29 June 2020 22: 50
    0
    I would not be surprised if it is. China has become a powerful power, with excellent engineers and scientists, and you can always "lick" the best samples wisely, especially when they sell them to you with a bang.
  20. Nitarius
    Nitarius 30 June 2020 04: 57
    0
    )) Well, well ... comparing the Donkey with the Stallion is certainly true - both Horses))) and hard workers)) everything else is from the Cunning)))
  21. Charik
    Charik 30 June 2020 22: 06
    0
    As well as why, given the declared "similarity" of the complexes, China chose to buy exactly the S-400.-how why should cut an analogue. The S-300 was constructed 30 years ago, not a single modernization has gone through, and the Chinese have just started selling an analogue (possibly) superior to the S-300. And in 10 years or so they may dump the analogue of the S-400 for sale, only first they will buy the S-500-600.
  22. Jack bird
    Jack bird 2 July 2020 19: 54
    0
    Formal data: range, height, lower bound.
    It's not about that.
    There is a company to discredit S-400.
    The usual thing.
    On the other hand.
    The network has a description of the firing of S-300PMU2 PLA with numbers and reports.
    Very interesting.
    Apparently, the Chinese were very pleased.
  23. nikant
    nikant 4 July 2020 19: 39
    0
    it remains to pass from 500 ... and everything will be fine! China has a lot of money and specialists from all over the world: engine building (any) will be tightened ... sell everything to them further - and wait for them not beyond the Urals, but somewhere on the Volga! The Lake Cooperative is surrendering everything quietly ...