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The Soviet Union is back! Question in what form

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Yes, from the first letters of the text I want to congratulate all our supporters of the Great Constitutional Breakthrough, the Winners of liberals and pederasts and all that. With an unequivocal and unconditional victory on the plebiscite, which now guarantees us milk rivers in the jelly banks.


The main thing is that they won. All. Congratulations. Now we will look at what this victory, or the Constitution, will bring.

And it will bring us, no matter how strange it may sound, the Soviet Union. On the house and in a package with the coat of arms.

All these "Rebels who once sold their homeland for jeans and sausage", ran running to vote ... And for what? But for what. For a dream. A dream that they incompetently lost in 1991 and 1993. But all this time longed for a return.

What, you ask? Shortage? Blata? Systems?

Well, let's be honest: today we also have a shortage. Shortage of money. There is something to buy, but the question is just what? Blat blooms and bears fruit, but now he is shifted there, in the direction of not extracting utilities, but solving problems in the system and with the system.

Well and yes, to get into the system. To "manage the dream" in full.

So what remains?

And Her Majesty System remains.

Yes, the very Soviet system that these ... winners are so joyfully dragging on today's day. Do not think that this is the Soviet system in terms of free education there, free medicine, medicine, in principle, union vouchers for resorts in holiday homes, free trips to camps. Not. This is just what the winners don’t need, not for that everything was in order to scatter the benefits of civilization.

Good things, dear, you have to earn. Or earn it. Or buy one. But in any case, there is a choice.

And I’m talking about a completely different Soviet system. A system of choice without a choice.

Yes exactly. Elections without a choice, when you vote like, but for one candidate from one, because there are no more, and not really what you need. When the truth is found by one who is higher in the hierarchy. When you simply have a very comfortable existence: no need to think, everyone has already decided for you.

By the way, this slogan is increasingly found in the open spaces of a seemingly democratic Russia.

Just the other day, I received a call from a friend with an angry scream about the fact that "we were forced to vote!"

So, I think this is how? Police with batons, FSB with smart speeches? Who! "Vatsap". A newsletter came from everyone, from the authorities, where it was said: go, vote, send a photo of the site.

I emphasize boldly: no threats, no promises of reprisals. Just “Woof!” - go and vote.

Let's go. All. And once they came, they voted. And why, once the legs beat? And then this moaning: “Ah, we are poor, we are so against all this, but they forced us!”

But in general, is it worth regretting?

Life is beautiful and simple, like a Kalashnikov assault rifle. For the same simple and unpretentious inhabitants.

There is one ... I do not know how to say it correctly. Anointed of God, Tsar-Father, Mr. Secretary General, President ... But what difference does it make, what is the name of Post No. 1? It is a fact that now it is not just a person, but a person who simply cannot be removed from his post.

And now the question is: is it necessary? Well, if the whole country so desires Putin's lifelong stay at Post No. 1, let Putin take him. What is in stories countries 20 years? Yes, nothing! Well, another 20 years, let the person correct, since it happened.

Emperor kings sat for longer.

We just take it as an axiom: there is no other person in this country and cannot be. And, as State Duma Speaker Volodin said: "Putin will come after Putin." And everything is clear. Jump, jump and so on.

By the way, one must come up with an example of neighbors some action to express loyal feelings. Type "Ku" or "Who does not ride - a liberal!" I liked the second one myself.

And forget about these nonsense with the election. It is not our business to choose. There is no choice, there is Putin. All. Finished on this.

Council of the Federation, or, as before, the Presidium of the Supreme Council. Also plant for life. To the post, of course. And what, only a person will delve into state affairs, as it is time to free up already. No, the senators of the upper house, in other words, the newly-born boyars, must also sit until the moment when it is impossible to sit for a good reason.

Lower House, or State Duma. To disperse. There is only one party in Russia. It is a fact. The fact that somewhere there, in tiny towns, all sorts of Communists and LDPR representatives are snatching their posts is not serious. To disperse. Enough people’s money to spend these deputies. They could not resist the First Party - in the furnace of history.

And then they sit, you know, on the people's neck ...

And what, they lived under the tsar-priest without parliament, lived under the USSR without the State Duma - and normally lived like that!

The modern Russian does not need a choice at all. The choice dampens. Makes you think. And this is harmful.

Yes, like a soldier in the army. Why should a soldier dig from dawn to dusk? And not to think, but to dig. So that harmful thoughts in your head do not move.

That's the same thing with the heads of the townsfolk must be done. Why choose? Putin or Grudinin? Putin or Navalny? It's unhealthy. This can lead to the fact that the layman-electorate can (scary to think!) Doubt the correctness of the chosen course.

And this, you know, is fraught. So no more games of democracy. Not necessary. Putin is - and the country does not need anyone else! The rest will be appointed by Putin with the support of the Federation Council and the State Duma. Full and unconditional, because if they (and all of a sudden) kick, then he will dissolve them with the wave of his little finger.

Well, who wants to work to go? Of course, they will approve everything as cute and vote where necessary. Here for them, deputies and senators, the principle "Vote as you should or lose" should also be. Voted the wrong way - if you please go out and free the place. For someone who knows which button to press.

The election of governor mayors must also be canceled. What for? There is Putin who will have to work with these people. Well, let him continue to appoint them. It doesn’t matter according to what principle, from personal protection there or by what method, the main thing is that Putin appoints without any unnecessary gestures.

As an example, I will give some elections in my city, when the winner was really not the one whom everyone put on. Not a United Russia party. It was a deal. That's just a man was, to put it mildly, unprepared for such a thing. And he lost the next election not just with a bang, but humiliating.

But the time is gone. 4 years, as it were.

So why all this circus? Appointed immediately whom it is necessary. And even though he is not strong in arithmetic, like one Russian governor, he is Putin’s man. With all the consequences.

Can you imagine which hemorrhoids were removed from us? Thinking is not necessary AT ALL! They invented, justified, chewed everything for us and presented everything on a silver platter with a three-color border. Including on our pages too.

Go citizen, express your position. But remember that you either vote - or you lose.

Thinking is not necessary at all. There are specially selected people for this. You need to think exclusively about the beautiful. The fact that now every animal is guaranteed a haystack or a pack of "whiskas". Volunteers will be able to continue to do for free what government agencies such as social, emergency situations and others should do. And LGBT people cannot create families.

And the fact that prices have been rising and will continue to rise is not a servile matter to think about. It is necessary to start with yourself and work not 8 or 10 hours a day, but all 12 or 14. It is necessary to work, understand? And then the rise in prices will not worry anyone.

And in general, to be indignant at prices is a misunderstanding of the country's course. This is the worst of liberalism. This is the so-called sobriety. We have to work on this!

And today, a citizen does not like that a mask costs 3 rubles instead of 30 rubles, gasoline has once again risen in price, food prices have gone up, and tomorrow what? And tomorrow, he wants another president?

So we go far.

And here the Soviet system of choice without choice will give the result that will suit everyone. Well, at least the main majority.

And in the future and in general it will be possible to abolish all these democratic nonsense with the elections. There is one day for elections - on this day a citizen must come to the polling station and express his will. That is to say a firm and confident "Yes!"

Constitution, president, parliament, Federation Council, governor, mayor. To everyone. Right away.

And further to go to work. Because the only way we can build a developed society. Russia of the future. Future brainless and incapable of analyzing the electorate. Not thinking, not understanding, which even today is enough only for the phrase: "No, but what does the author suggest?"

Now the author offers to think (yes, it is difficult) on what further action after the adoption of the new Constitution we will have to do. How and where to direct our thoughts, thoughts and aspirations that will allow Russia to go further up, frightening the whole world with its development.

The rally with the jumps to the speech “Whoever doesn’t ride is a liberal” I personally really liked the idea.

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  1. Deniska999
    Deniska999 29 June 2020 15: 07 New
    25
    As they say, history repeats itself twice: once in the form of tragedy, the other in the form of farce.
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 29 June 2020 15: 15 New
      -1
      ebnoputinism is the worst disease in Russia, either surgery or kapets.
      1. Pavel57
        Pavel57 29 June 2020 16: 53 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        ebnoputinism is the worst disease in Russia, either surgery or kapets.


        Under Yeltsin, without surgery, they went to the kapets.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 29 June 2020 21: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: Pavel57
          Under Yeltsin, without surgery, they went to the kapets.

          Colleague, all processes are man-made, and you want to say that the Eltsin's receiver is better than his "patron"?
          A Russian phenomenon, a "good tsar", only he is not a tsar, but a czar, a hired manager in the service of the people. This manager managed to fail all directions of development, well, what the hell do I need?
          1. Pavel57
            Pavel57 30 June 2020 13: 37 New
            +9
            Quote: Malyuta
            Colleague, all processes are man-made, and you want to say that the Eltsin's receiver is better than his "patron"?


            How many examples will be enough to prove that it’s better -
            When GDP
            - the army is restored,
            - MIC is recovering,
            - the aviation industry is recovering,
            - agricultural recovery,
            - many critical industries from the republics were transferred to the country or restored,
            - Ust-Meadow is built.
          2. Nubia2
            Nubia2 1 July 2020 12: 32 New
            +2
            In the service of the people?
            Yes you are an optimist.
          3. Egor-dis
            Egor-dis 2 July 2020 09: 32 New
            +1
            Quote: Malyuta
            you want to say that the Eltsin receiver is better than its "patron"?

            Representatives of the patriotic elites gave this "successor" a warning to EBN in order to then bloodlessly remove EBN from power, so as not to ruin the country further.
            Quote: Malyuta
            This manager managed to fail all areas of development,
            Without even engaging in polemics about the tenacity of this judgment, the counter-question is probably under EBN and without changing the Constitution, would all directions develop and bloom in a riotous color?
            What year are you born? Did you find the time of the EBN board in a conscious age (21+)?
          4. Horla
            Horla 3 July 2020 16: 44 New
            +1
            Have you tried to do something yourself? Or just whistle
        2. Roman123567
          Roman123567 30 June 2020 12: 54 New
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          Under Yeltsin, the country was ruined ..
          A plowman remained in one republic, a milkman in another, a baker in a third ..
          And the whole planned economy was ruined !!
          It’s not just surgery, but simply livelihood was ..
          You would think that in such a situation, Putin would have settled everything in two days ..))
          But the same pensions for 20 years have not very far gone from Yeltsin ...
          1. Siberian54
            Siberian54 30 June 2020 16: 05 New
            +2
            And why the heck then EBN actively ruined the country with its rake?
            1. your1970
              your1970 1 July 2020 12: 25 New
              +1
              Quote: Siberian54
              And why the heck then EBN actively ruined the country with its rake?
              -he ONE???Personally??
              We had the first secretary of the district committee ... in 1992 I bought / squeezed out a precast concrete plant and cinder block ..... in 1995 cinder block died, in 1996 died reinforced concrete
              ...... and the first secretary went to live to the sea - he bought a house there on the Black Sea with money taken on loans for them. Which actually killed both plants ....
              And besides such first secretaries - there was still a lot of bosses in the country who also did not miss theirs when sharing
              1. Siberian54
                Siberian54 1 July 2020 12: 48 New
                +2
                It’s downstairs and when it was allowed from above, but the EBN and the Moscow Maidan collapsed all the same (the shooting of the Supreme Council building by tanks, many died there, dug secretly) he organized after a conversation with the USA Ambassador /
      2. Achilles
        Achilles 29 June 2020 17: 57 New
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        Well, another 20 years, let the person correct, since it happened
        .
        I just can’t understand when people write about another 20 years of Putin’s rule. Now Putin is 67 years old, on October 7 he will be 68 years old, + 4 years old he will be 2024 years old in March 71, and tell me, what other 20 years? maximum one more term and that is a big question
        1. Tatyana Pershina
          Tatyana Pershina 29 June 2020 18: 35 New
          -8
          Not only the article on zeroing the term does not like the liberals.
          An article about the supremacy of Russian legislation over a certain international law crossed his throat.
          I want to remind you that the ECHR court ordered Russia to pay 15 thousand euros to the relatives of 55 militants (Maskhadov and Basaev), spent by them on legal costs. In addition, the court considers that in both cases the applicants are entitled to reimburse compensation for non-pecuniary damage. And Russia forked out.
          What do you think, liberals?
          1. depressant
            depressant 29 June 2020 19: 17 New
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            Tatyana Pershina, our president is positioning himself as a liberal. Could you explain why the liberal president may not like the amendment on the supremacy of Russian legislation over international, as well as the amendment on nullification?
            1. Tatyana Pershina
              Tatyana Pershina 29 June 2020 19: 23 New
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              You personally spoke with Putin and he slowly told you about his disagreement with these amendments?
              In public, he spoke out about their full approval.
              1. depressant
                depressant 29 June 2020 19: 47 New
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                No, I had no honor)) My question is caused by your statement that the liberals do not like the amendments you have called. I repeat: how does this fit with the fact that our president is a liberal? )))
              2. Roman123567
                Roman123567 30 June 2020 12: 58 New
                -4
                Yes, he personally said that he was a liberal .. and you added that he had an article across his throat ..
                So think what you write ..))
            2. alecsis69
              alecsis69 30 June 2020 17: 21 New
              +1
              Because the president positions himself as a liberal in the sense of the word that is indicated in the philosophical dictionary, and not in the way Nabiulina is a freelance employee of the IMF.
              1. depressant
                depressant 30 June 2020 18: 18 New
                +4
                alecsis69, oversight of the president, you can't keep up with everything! He will either have to become a freelance employee of the IMF, well, or a full-time employee, for example, like Siluanov, whose position in this organization is designated "IMF manager from the Russian Federation" (this is so that Nabiullina and Siluanov do not feel discomfort in the presence of Putin), or make amendments in a philosophical dictionary, so that you do not feel discomfort, clutching the dictionary in your hands and at the same time seeing the president on the TV screen in the warm company of the mentioned gentlemen. In any case, you have presented the president with a difficult choice: you or them. And if all of a sudden ... You will vote for amendments to the dictionary, right?))
                1. alecsis69
                  alecsis69 2 July 2020 00: 53 New
                  +2
                  For amendments to the dictionary, no, except for additions.
                  As for the Nabiulins-Siluanovs company, you need to be blind, so as not to see how they already got Putin, Ulyukaev has been waiting for them for a long time, sad, by the way, this was specially shown to you on live broadcasts of the president’s meetings during quarantine. IMF, thank God, the organization is dying, along with the entire Bretton Woods system, but still strong, so you need to get rid of it carefully, as it could from the wires leading to the TNT sword.
            3. Ilya Nikitich
              Ilya Nikitich 3 July 2020 07: 17 New
              -1
              The fact is that our president is a liberal, not a liberal. Big difference...
              1. depressant
                depressant 3 July 2020 07: 57 New
                +1
                Ilya Nikitich, your clarification is the most valuable of all. The concept of "liberast" is absent in the philosophical dictionary. So you need to amend the dictionary, at least in the Russian version. In the West, there is no such thing as "liberast", it is understandable only to us. In our understanding, a liberal differs from a liberal in that the Russian liberal, being a liberal, shares Western values ​​that are unacceptable to us, it is clear which ones. Thus, an amendment to the dictionary. And as soon as this is done, the irreconcilable disputants on the VO forums will immediately agree. The ambiguity in assessing the president's political figure will disappear, and all of us, having adopted a new definition, will focus on assessing the degree of subordination of the liberal president to the liberal subordinates. Let us help him throw off the liberal yoke with our support and suggestions on how to do it.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 29 June 2020 19: 42 New
            +3
            Quote: Tatiana Pershina
            And Russia forked out.

            And without the rule of law they will pay, at least voluntarily, at least forcibly.
          3. Deniska999
            Deniska999 29 June 2020 20: 13 New
            +1
            But tell me, did you cancel clause 4 of Art. 15 of the Constitution? Not. So we pass by.
            1. alecsis69
              alecsis69 30 June 2020 17: 24 New
              +2
              Not canceled, it is too difficult, for now, to do, but have figured out how to get around. And to you, as I understand it, it’s like a knife in the heart, how can it be, such a wonderful article, it’s quite for the colony, but then suddenly get around.
        2. Malyuta
          Malyuta 29 June 2020 21: 53 New
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          Quote: Achilles
          I just can’t understand when people write about another 20 years of Putin’s rule. Now Putin is 67 years old, on October 7 he will be 68 years old, + 4 years old he will be 2024 years old in March 71, and tell me, what other 20 years? maximum one more term and that is a big question

          And here everything is simple, if they do not carry them forward, it means a life sentence for raldugin alone.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 30 June 2020 08: 50 New
            +5
            Miraculous pills from old age will open soon. Putin will outlive us all.
            1. Civil
              Civil 30 June 2020 10: 20 New
              -2
              Nothing to even comment on. The people are losing again. There is no one to stand up for people.
              1. Akuzenka
                Akuzenka 30 June 2020 14: 49 New
                -1
                Just the other day, I received a call from a friend with an angry scream about the fact that "we were forced to vote!"

                How can you talk like that about developed democracy and liberalism in Russia? It was only in the "scoop" "forced" to vote !!!! An insolent slander on the Russian liberalistic system !!!!

                And there is really nothing to comment on. Nothing will change, even if the rallies are held and the amendments are not voted on. They have already been adopted. Everything else is just for legitimization. The capitalists need to come and vote. They go and vote. It's not socialism in our country, where citizens "hammered" the vote! Serfs must vote, no matter what. All the same, under capitalism, it will only get worse. In 5 years, the war will be unleashed and the slaves will be driven to fight for the profits of the capitalists, and not for the Motherland and a better life for themselves and their families. If only the number of yachts "ours" did not interfere.
              2. Siberian54
                Siberian54 30 June 2020 16: 11 New
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                For the majority of the population at the household level, these amendments are absolutely parallel, including zeroing, since the opposition cannot grow a leader for itself .. Who the doctor is!
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        3. Roman123567
          Roman123567 30 June 2020 12: 57 New
          +3
          And because of any one term, he started such a scout with the Constitution that he did not even try to nullify all his previous long-term promises ??
          Or is he even one term without a crown on his head not to survive in extortion ??
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 29 June 2020 15: 17 New
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      "Putin will come after Putin."
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 29 June 2020 15: 20 New
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        The Soviet Union is back! Question in what form

        In the returned Roman, perverted! yes
        1. depressant
          depressant 29 June 2020 16: 58 New
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          I admit that there is widespread nostalgia for the USSR, not only among the older generation, but even in a significant part of the youth who have never lived in the USSR, but who feel their uselessness in the current internal political circumstances and at the same time increasingly come to the idea of ​​their complete need for the one that has gone epoch, pushed the power on a certain thought, and putting her finger to her forehead, she said meaningfully: "Oh!" Indeed, why leave the system of government, which is the mentality of the people? From a system that basically did not reject him and does not cause him to this day? In which even the strongly reproached power was the ultimate truth and was trusted to the point that the people, cursing that power, fell after it into the abyss of the 90s? And there is a doubt that it will fall somewhere behind the current one. So why not? Why not call the USSR? Masquerade for the sake of its own, namely, imperious survival - but not a question!

          There is another. The USSR was respected.

          Only there is a difference between what was and what we might be prepared for. Instead of the romantic intensity of that era, striving for the high and the distant, which was quietly fading away due to the activities of those whose heirs are now sitting in the Kremlin, we will be introduced to the regime of an electronic concentration camp and they will say: "You wanted the USSR? Get and sign for issuing a ballot paper!"
          And they will convince! And do you know why? Here I agree with my colleague SRTs P-15. Because the USSR did not go anywhere. It has mutated into what we have - into a monster that has thrown away all the "surplus" of the previous version of the Union - morality, ethics, collectivism, setting great tasks. He mutated and brazenly poked out the resulting dirty gut of covetousness. There was nothing else to stick out. Everyone understands: you can't wash a black dog white. But a naive hope - it has not gone anywhere.
      2. unaha
        unaha 29 June 2020 15: 28 New
        18
        Do not try to achieve logical coherence from supporters of the authorities. In that mess of thinking that they demonstrate logic is not provided.
        1. Pavel57
          Pavel57 29 June 2020 16: 55 New
          -9
          The opponents of the authorities are not all right with logic either. And one leitmotif is "Putin's share."
          1. unaha
            unaha 29 June 2020 17: 08 New
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            Yes, not "Down with Putin"! And "the law is one for all!" Nobody should change it for themselves.
            1. Pavel57
              Pavel57 29 June 2020 17: 09 New
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              Quote: unaha
              Yes, not "Down with Putin"! And "the law is one for all!" Nobody should change it for themselves.


              Did you say that to Yeltsin? Or Gorbachev?
              1. unaha
                unaha 29 June 2020 17: 20 New
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                Do you offer to repeat everything?
                1. Pavel57
                  Pavel57 29 June 2020 18: 04 New
                  -13
                  Yeah, we’ll start a new life from these elections.

                  For you, the main thing is to remove Putin.
                  1. Moore
                    Moore 30 June 2020 19: 20 New
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                    Quote: Pavel57
                    For you, the main thing is to remove Putin.

                    To change Putin anyhow for whom is the goal of "people with good faces", but in fact - balabols who drown "for all good against all bad."
                    If you go down a few levels below - will they change a good director to someone else if, according to the charter of the enterprise, the old term has expired? And why should this be done at the state level?
                    Another thing is that the people from those in power are invited to answer a question like: "Do you like dad, mom and eat poop?" Yes, yes, I know, one shaggy Chuchundra explained to everyone that it is technically impossible to vote for each amendment separately.
                    So we have a king. Well king, and so what? Everyday business. But now, if you are a king, be kind to be responsible for everything that happens in Mother Russia. For dumb-headed bureaucrats, for a thief in uniform and without epaulettes, for a chmyr who is serving the needs of a brewery. For all. Ready
            2. major147
              major147 29 June 2020 18: 36 New
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              Quote: unaha
              Yes, not "Down with Putin"! And "the law is one for all!" Nobody should change it for themselves.

              The law is the will of the people. If you don't like something, you need to put a "tick" in the appropriate box when voting. But if you don't like ten, but a hundred like it - sorry!
              1. unaha
                unaha 29 June 2020 18: 50 New
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                And if the authorities have more than once been caught in the muzhlezh and lies, what is the certainty that exactly a hundred like it?
                1. major147
                  major147 29 June 2020 19: 00 New
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                  Quote: unaha
                  And if the authorities have more than once been caught in the muzhlezh and lies, what is the certainty that exactly a hundred like it?

                  Found a specific violation of the law - to court! As far as I remember, there are sentences on muhlezh in the elections. And where is the guarantee that having changed power, the new one will not cheat?
                  1. unaha
                    unaha 29 June 2020 19: 04 New
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                    Of course there is no guarantee. But when the state takes concrete steps to conserve its power, the situation will definitely not get better.
                    1. major147
                      major147 29 June 2020 19: 05 New
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                      Quote: unaha
                      Of course there is no guarantee. But when the state takes concrete steps to conserve its power, the situation will definitely not get better.

                      Why do you think so?
                      1. unaha
                        unaha 29 June 2020 19: 21 New
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                        What exactly? No guarantees? Well, it's obvious. Or what doesn't get better? This is how the prerequisites should be, but I don't see them. Stagnation in the economy, deadlock in domestic and foreign policy, huge stratification of income. "Elites" generally do not associate their future with our country.
                      2. major147
                        major147 29 June 2020 21: 08 New
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                        Quote: unaha
                        What exactly? No guarantees? Well, it's obvious. Or what doesn't get better? This is how the prerequisites should be, but I don't see them. Stagnation in the economy, deadlock in domestic and foreign policy, huge stratification of income. "Elites" generally do not associate their future with our country.

                        And what gives reason to think that under the new government it will be better? Or do you think the authorities are sitting and planning how else to worsen the life of the people?
                        In domestic politics, I don’t see a dead end, but in foreign politics you need to give everything to the West like Gorbachev, and perhaps then the Americans will pat us on the shoulder.
                        Income stratification. Who with whom? Janitor with factory owner? So it was and always will be.
                        "Elites". And where to get others for the "new government"? Unless to bring from Mars. Or do you know people who, having spit on their own selfish interests, will do everything only "for the good of the people"? For example, I don’t know.
                        Is that all I need? Besides the fact that the current government does not really care about the welfare of the people, and I have absolutely no confidence that by changing the government, we will improve the situation, and not vice versa. The history of the USSR is an example of this.
                      3. unaha
                        unaha 30 June 2020 08: 46 New
                        +4
                        "I am not at all sure that by changing the government we will improve the situation, and not vice versa" - alas, I do not have it either. But the existing one unambiguously follows the path of curtailing social guarantees and, even worse, economic and political freedoms. We get a choice - "definitely worse" or "possibly better" if we make the right choice. In this case, at least something depends on us.
                      4. major147
                        major147 30 June 2020 14: 05 New
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                        Quote: unaha
                        "definitely worse" or "possibly better"

                        I do not agree with "definitely worse". You either do not know, or on purpose "do not notice" the government's social programs. They may not be as generous as we would like, but nevertheless ...
                      5. unaha
                        unaha 2 July 2020 10: 33 New
                        0
                        I notice. But there is again a fundamental difference in approaches. I absolutely do not like the state's paternalistic approach: "I give it to you." It first withdraws funds from citizens (through numerous indirect fees, extra-budgetary funds, "natural monopolies", currency reduction, in every possible way "squeezing" money out of the economy), and then gives ... or maybe not, if they behave incorrectly. The state should maximally ensure the ability of citizens to earn and develop themselves. In every way. The main function of the state is to ensure equality, a favorable development environment, and care for those who, for one reason or another, are unable to earn money on their own.
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  2. AUL
    AUL 29 June 2020 19: 45 New
    +7
    Quote: major147
    As far as I remember, there are sentences on muhlezh in the elections.

    And can you learn more about this? Or did he just write?
    1. major147
      major147 29 June 2020 20: 54 New
      -2
      Quote: AUL
      Quote: major147
      As far as I remember, there are sentences on muhlezh in the elections.

      And can you learn more about this? Or did he just write?

      Have you been banned in Google?
    2. major147
      major147 29 June 2020 21: 18 New
      -1
      Quote: AUL
      Or did he just write?

      As humanitarian aid

      And a link to fresh
      https://life.ru/p/1331889
  • A.K.
    A.K. 29 June 2020 22: 57 New
    +3
    Power has always been and will be caught by different mukhlezh and someone will like it and someone will not; it will always be such a person and his nature does not have ideal power, since the person himself is not ideal.
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 29 June 2020 22: 22 New
    +2
    Quote: major147
    The law is the will of the people.

    Law is the will of the ruling class. You're lying again. Grasp the atlas.
    Quote: major147
    If you don't like something, you need to put a "tick" in the appropriate box when voting.

    Play these games yourself. Nafig this casino is not interesting.
  • Outsider
    Outsider 2 July 2020 14: 01 New
    0
    Millions of Germans loved Hitler. And only a small number did not like it. Millions of citizens of the USSR simply yelled with delight, pretending that they really like Stalin! The key word "scary" - who dared to blather that he did not like Stalin - went to the Magadan region ...
    Millions of citizens of today's Russia vote for Putin for the only reason - they are terribly afraid, no matter how worse it becomes ...
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 29 June 2020 22: 20 New
    -4
    Come on, you won’t lie. Thanks in advance.
  • bar
    bar 29 June 2020 18: 04 New
    +1
    Do not try to achieve logical coherence from supporters of the authorities.

    And I already despaired of achieving logical cohesion from her opponents. Sadly, when no one has a logical connection, only emotions ...
    1. major147
      major147 29 June 2020 18: 44 New
      -5
      Quote: bar
      And I already despaired of achieving logical cohesion from her opponents.

      Moreover, it is impossible to recognize some concept of "their power". Only a couple of people at VO presented their specific proposals for the restructuring of power in Russia. Whether they are good or bad - we will not discuss here. And so only the convulsive shouts of "Down with Putin!" And to the question: "And then what?", Professional "overthrowers", mainly from a neighboring country, cannot clearly answer.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 29 June 2020 22: 49 New
        -4
        Quote: major147
        Moreover, it is impossible to recognize some concept of "their power".

        What can you offer other than "after Putin will be Putin"? State your thoughts on the subject, if there is of course, what are the big doubts, conservative reactionary. laughing
    2. unaha
      unaha 29 June 2020 18: 54 New
      +8
      From what? If the amendments are not intended primarily to maintain power, we are discussing 2-3 years and voting separately. What is not logical?
      1. ABC
        ABC 29 June 2020 19: 24 New
        +1
        discuss 2-3 years

        From the point of view of "democratic values" everything is logical. Moreover, there is no need to limit yourself to deadlines. What if some more amendments will mature in these 2-3 years? They will also need to be included in the discussion. "This music will be eternal", you just need to change the batteries in time. The only pity is that this is only suitable for rich countries with powerful economies. There you can discuss anything for an unlimited time, from the next budget of the Pentagon to the impeachment of the next president, the country will withstand it. And ours is unlikely ...
        1. unaha
          unaha 29 June 2020 19: 37 New
          0
          Well, then we must strive for the best)))
      2. major147
        major147 29 June 2020 22: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: unaha
        From what? If the amendments are not intended primarily to maintain power, we are discussing 2-3 years and voting separately. What is not logical?

        This is not for me. I would also prefer to vote each separately. But we have what we have.
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 30 June 2020 12: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: major147
          I would also prefer to vote each separately. But we have what we have.

          In the general list of amendments, most of them are sweet smoke for cooks, like indexation of pensions, affordable medicine and other tinsel. It makes no difference for these amendments - to accept them in bulk or one at a time. But this smoke covers the systemic amendments that only work together. Throw one out, and the system won't work. But judging by the speed with which these amendments are being adopted, all of us, both those who are for power and those who are against it, are facing some very important and very close event that a narrow circle of the President knows about, but we are not He speaks. There is some kind of secret here, which we may find out about before the end of this year. All this verbal battle of not quite informed people is not worth a penny. Only one thing is clear, the author is offended by the people and the country, which did not heed his dozen of articles about the uselessness of these changes in the constitution. I don't think he knows why all this is unnecessary. I think that financing interests are using it.
          1. major147
            major147 30 June 2020 14: 07 New
            +2
            Quote: Hagen
            we are facing some very important and very close event, which the narrow circle of the President knows about,

            And I think that this "zhu-zhu" is not casual.
  • credo
    credo 29 June 2020 19: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: unaha
    Do not try to achieve logical coherence from supporters of the authorities. In that mess of thinking that they demonstrate logic is not provided.

    So write a logically connected postulate on behalf of the opponents of the current government and substantiate your conclusions and beliefs "on your fingers", and not as in the "500 days" program.
    1. unaha
      unaha 29 June 2020 19: 49 New
      0
      No, well, you want too much from me))) I still work and children need to be addressed. And then I must then take me to work in minek ...
  • Svarog
    Svarog 29 June 2020 15: 36 New
    38
    Yes, in our political clearing, the next changes have taken place .. Everything is rapidly changing with a minus sign .. Now, when it became completely clear that the people do not decide anything .. in fact .. there is nothing more to hope for .. the head of state is not a king and a re-president .. now endowed with all possible and impossible powers .. Welcome to Africa .. in the economy we are along with African countries, now our political system is close to the most marginal and "funny" formations on the globe of our planet ... there are not very many of them and we are practically among them ..
    And here the comparison with the USSR is not correct, for the reason that the Secretary General, although he could remain in power for an arbitrarily long time, he was the guarantor of social justice .. and today the guarantor guarantees only his friends ... and the middle class survives for 17 .. In this lies a monstrous injustice, when on the one hand people have no choice, and on the other, an eternal person who has already been firmly upholding the interests of his inner circle for a quarter of a century ... at the expense of Russian citizens .. who are getting poorer every year .. By the way, a water tax is introduced .. for summer residents and homeowners wassat
    I don’t know what this will lead to, but I’m sure that nothing good will come of it.
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 29 June 2020 15: 59 New
      -21
      Now that it has become completely clear that the people are not deciding anything ..

      Why does everyone say that he does not solve?
      President Vladimir Putin clearly said that the amendments would be adopted if the majority of the population voted for them.
      That is, he admits the idea that they may not be accepted.
      While 76% are in favor, well, then the majority is for now.
      So decided the people.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 29 June 2020 16: 04 New
        24
        Quote: Arzt
        So far, 76% - well, then the majority is for now.
        So decided the people.

        Yes, the people also supported the pension reform .. These are political technologies that have been tested to perfection, here it is for sure that our managers have succeeded ... Of course, when all the media and rating actors, athletes urge to vote .. for the Constitution, while motivating with high ideals, which, in essence, and without changes should have been observed .. it is difficult for pensioners and people with little information to resist .. There is not even a hint in any video that calls for voting FOR, even a hint that the president after the changes will be reset and can rule forever, that he and the members of the State Council will not be subject to jurisdiction .. they are modestly silent about this .. But if you listen to what they say in the "kitchen" or in the minibus ... it becomes clear that there is a gap between the government and society ..
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 29 June 2020 16: 17 New
          13
          These are political technologies, which were run to perfection, here our managers definitely succeeded ...

          And here it is already necessary to include the head.

          When do you need to vote FOR?
          When you are nishtyak.
          You are a deputy, your last name is Tereshkova, you are the head of the theater, you are the head physician, you are the minister, you are the head of VTB, you are the head of Gazprom, you are the general of the Ministry of Internal Affairs or deputy or assistant to all these comrades.
          In short - when you are in the TEAM OF AUTHORITY, and are vitally interested in maintaining the status quo.

          When to vote against?
          In all other cases. laughing
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 29 June 2020 16: 23 New
            19
            Quote: Arzt
            When to vote against?
            In all other cases.
            Reply

            Everything is true, and according to my observations, this is happening, but they draw as they need .. In the presidential election, everyone I interviewed voted FOR Grudinin, and this is not a little more than about 100 people and only my father-in-law and ex-wife voted for Putin ... I do not believe in the honesty of the vote.
            1. Doctor
              Doctor 29 June 2020 16: 37 New
              0
              In the presidential election, everyone I interviewed voted FOR Grudinin, and this is not a little more than about 100 people and only my father-in-law and ex-wife voted for Putin ...

              This is because you have the appropriate environment. If your son was in Navalny’s team and brought home a dozen of his two friends, you would have different statistics.

              By the way, the fact that your spouse has become a former also makes you think. laughing

              But in general, I think Grudinin managed to shuganit power.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 29 June 2020 16: 54 New
                +7
                Quote: Arzt
                But in general, I think Grudinin managed to shuganit power.

                Naturally ... yes, so much so that, as soon as possible, it’s amazing how they didn’t plant him .. but who knows, maybe it will even come to that ..
                And I divorced my first wife 20 years ago and we have a good relationship))
                This is because you have the appropriate environment

                I have a very different environment, I communicate literally with all walks of life ..
                1. Doctor
                  Doctor 29 June 2020 17: 06 New
                  0
                  I have a very different environment, I communicate literally with all walks of life ..

                  And what, your friends EdRossy, liberals, LDPRovtsy, and navalnentsy voted for Grudinin?
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 29 June 2020 17: 10 New
                    +8
                    Quote: Arzt
                    I have a very different environment, I communicate literally with all walks of life ..

                    And what, your friends EdRossy, liberals, LDPRovtsy, and navalnentsy voted for Grudinan.

                    It will surprise you, but I don’t have any acquaintances who voted for these characters .. there is one who always voted for Zhirik, but this time also voted for Grudinin .. Many in the last election switched to Grudinin .. actually and it’s not surprising , a new face, a well-grounded development program (which by the way no one else had.) and most importantly a personal example ..
                  2. Doctor
                    Doctor 29 June 2020 17: 20 New
                    +4
                    You will be surprised, but I do not have friends who voted for these characters ..

                    I’m talking about this, you are in your environment, no liberal will survive near you, you simply will not communicate with him.
                    Therefore, you have such statistics.
                    If you were a nightclub party-goer, then all your friends would vote for Sobchak. laughing
                2. ELEZKIY
                  ELEZKIY 29 June 2020 17: 44 New
                  +6
                  I am in United Russia, voted and campaigned for Grudinin. I believe that the elections were rigged. based on my personal polls, the second round was supposed to be. by manipulating the results, the authorities escaped the second round, which was most dangerous for her. otherwise it would have been more obvious to cheat. as in 96th.
                3. Doctor
                  Doctor 29 June 2020 17: 46 New
                  +4
                  I am in United Russia, voted and campaigned for Grudinin. I believe that the elections were rigged.

                  Fuck you! But what about party discipline?
                4. ELEZKIY
                  ELEZKIY 29 June 2020 17: 48 New
                  14
                  in the party of bribe takers and corrupt officials there is no concept of discipline. there are hitting and rolling.
        2. bar
          bar 29 June 2020 18: 06 New
          +6
          If your son was in Navalny’s team, and would bring a dozen of his two friends home

          Just not to smoke ...
        3. Region68
          Region68 29 June 2020 19: 42 New
          -3
          Why are they still beating him
        4. savage1976
          savage1976 30 June 2020 01: 43 New
          0
          Wives people are pretty smart, they know when to do legs.
      2. Speedy
        Speedy 29 June 2020 17: 13 New
        -12
        For sternum, all familiar?)) I sympathize with your surroundings. According to the amendments, the same story. Only among my friends are just 75 to 25 in favor of ZA. And to vote for sisilin - do not respect yourself.
      3. codetalker
        codetalker 29 June 2020 18: 41 New
        +7
        Well, 10 million voted for Grudinin ... and you only interviewed 100 villages.
  • codetalker
    codetalker 29 June 2020 16: 28 New
    14
    When did the people manage to support pension reform?
    1. alone
      alone 29 June 2020 16: 44 New
      15
      Quote: codetalker
      When did the people manage to support pension reform?

      His silence !! And silence is a sign of consent
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 29 June 2020 16: 45 New
        10
        I see ... but I thought you had some kind of secret ballot in your city)
    2. SVD68
      SVD68 30 June 2020 07: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: codetalker
      When did the people manage to support pension reform?

      So right now, supporting, voting (it does not matter for or against).
  • Achilles
    Achilles 29 June 2020 18: 03 New
    -5
    Quote: Svarog
    that he and the members of the state council will be beyond jurisdiction .. they are modestly silent about it ..

    The amendment contains an article on how this immunity can be nullified. Or didn’t you know?
  • neri73-r
    neri73-r 29 June 2020 18: 07 New
    +6
    Quote: Svarog
    Yes, the people also supported pension reform ..

    Do not distort, the people did not support pension reform in general, but they did not ask him!
    Quote: Svarog
    These are political technologies that have been tested to perfection, here it is for sure that our managers have succeeded ... Of course, when all the media and rating actors, athletes urge to vote ... for the Constitution, while motivating with high ideals, which, in essence, and without changes, should have been observed .. it is difficult for pensioners and people with little information to resist .. There is not even a hint that the president after the changes will be reset to zero and can rule forever, that he and the members of the State Council will not be subject to jurisdiction .. Not a single video, where they call for voting for votes But if you listen to what they say in the "kitchen" or in the minibus ... it becomes clear that there is a gap between the government and society ..

    Of course, all the fools among the people, some who are "against" smart.
  • mark2
    mark2 29 June 2020 19: 08 New
    -1
    Yes, the people also supported pension reform ..

    Yes, you clowns, when they accepted the pension reform, like a herd of artiodactyls pounded in TV on millionaires running around the field for the ball.
    Even after, when they sobered up, no one came out to protest.
    These are political technologies that have been run to perfection, here our managers definitely succeeded ..


    It's easier to always find a reason to justify your softness.

    Of course, when all media and rating actors, athletes call for a vote .. for the Constitution, while motivating them with high ideals, which, in essence, should be respected without changes

    And what about your head on your shoulders? Why, in order to make a decision, all of you need someone's opinion?

    retiree and poorly informed people are hard to resist

    After the authorities connected the Internet to the most devastated village, it’s ridiculous to talk about poorly informed people.

    There is not a single clip calling to vote FOR, even a hint that the president after the changes will be reset and can rule forever, that he and the members of the state council will be beyond jurisdiction.

    Let it be and will be. So what? You might think that someone doubts that this could happen without a vote. If the authorities wanted, then it would have done it without a referendum. And the clowns would have sat and resented, doing nothing.

    But if you listen to what they say in the "kitchen" or in the minibus ... it becomes clear that there is a gap between the government and society ..

    And I just recently heard Sophia Petrovna, from the words of Maryivanna, who had learned from the wife of her second cousin Pyotr Ivanovich that the Earth would soon fly over the axle.
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 29 June 2020 20: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: mark2
      After the authorities connected the Internet to the most devastated village, it’s ridiculous to talk about poorly informed population ..
      fool Mobile communications are far from available in all the withered villages, not to mention the wired Internet, but this is unknown to the clowns. With this kind of “knowledge”, you are clearly a foreign traveler, whom, in geirophe and Anglo-Saxonism, are like fleas on a Barbose, for a Russian girl suffering, in the best case, it’s masked, although the word ,, better ”is clearly inappropriate here, because the capital of liberals is spirit and ,, values ​​,, are no better than any stinky Amsterdam.
      1. mark2
        mark2 29 June 2020 23: 09 New
        -9
        I told you - clowns.
        You now have a network, and you probably have a cellular one, but you remained like clowns. And awareness has nothing to do with it. Two to you for knowledge, liberda.
      2. mark2
        mark2 29 June 2020 23: 22 New
        -9
        And I don’t understand why are you liberoids and anti-Putinists speaking out? It's too late. The voting process has begun and you cannot influence it in any way. Everything will be as it will be. It used to be. And now the train has left. The liberde is always like that. She can’t work ahead of schedule, only in fact. As there were undeterred id .... so they remained. Not in every village. ... Yes, you are not in these villages. You yourself are yelling here that Putin has forced all the villages to die out. How do you know in which of them there is no cellular connection, if there are no villages left, in your opinion?
        1. Far B
          Far B 30 June 2020 00: 46 New
          +8
          The voting process has begun and you cannot influence it in any way
          Exactly! What is sober on the mind, then the drunk on the tongue! How much rolled, just honestly?
    2. depressant
      depressant 30 June 2020 01: 19 New
      +8
      Colleague mark2. Let me explain something. The adoption of amendments without voting by you, among which there is an amendment on the so-called zeroing, in the eyes of the Western community, which was already unfriendly towards our country, would be instantly and with enormous gloating regarded as a usurpation of power committed against the will of the Russian people. Accordingly, the attitude of the West towards the president himself and towards Russia as a whole would change dramatically for the worse and take an unpredictably dangerous turn. Our country would immediately be put on the same level with the non-shaking hands of North Korea, Iraq, Libya, imposed with much more severe economic sanctions, and unpleasant political consequences would arise. At the same time, it is not known how Putin’s usurpation of power, and that would be usurpation, could be perceived by the citizens of our country. Especially after the adoption of a pension reform without a vote. It remains only to be glad that you, assuming that the president could have gone to zero without a vote, are not among his advisers.
      1. mark2
        mark2 30 June 2020 06: 26 New
        -5
        Dear Depresant.
        Your worries and concerns about the opinion of the Western progressive society of rainbow lovers make you touch.
        As always, abroad will help us?
        1. depressant
          depressant 30 June 2020 09: 31 New
          -1
          Colleague. The answer of the “rainbows” to any awkward domestic political action of President Putin may turn out to be completely unhappy for all of us - both those who support the amendments and those who are against and abstained. Dangerous both in foreign policy and domestically. One should not think that the West as a whole and our "good" neighbors, under the blows of the coronavirus, masking the grave global economic crisis, have weakened so much that they are unable to seriously ruin Putin's life, which means all of us. They only need a pretext for a new round of active aggression against us. Have you forgotten the Skripals case, which was followed by a bunch of sanctions against our country? By voting on the amendments, the president protects himself from attacks from the West, the country from the burden of additional sanctions, which means you too. Considering that the president could have passed the amendments without a vote, you make him stupid, that means you are insulting. You don't want it to look like this, do you?
          The issue discussed at this forum lies in a completely different plane - it is in the form of a vote, in the need for certain amendments, as well as in their general consequence for each of the citizens of our country. And remember that economic crises have always ended in wars.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 29 June 2020 23: 42 New
    +4
    Quote: Arzt
    President Vladimir Putin clearly said that the amendments would be adopted if the majority of the population voted for them.

    You contradict the Chairman of the CEC! All amendments are already working and approved by all branches of government. I do not argue that on a whim you can return everything back. But then it's already a mental hospital
  • neri73-r
    neri73-r 29 June 2020 18: 03 New
    -3
    Quote: Svarog
    Now that it has become completely clear that the people are not deciding anything .. in fact .. there’s nothing to hope for

    Rave! Go vote (as you see fit), decide! What is the problem? Some arguments, the level of kindergarten.
  • major147
    major147 29 June 2020 18: 56 New
    -2
    Quote: Svarog
    that people do not decide anything ..

    Then can you tell us how in the USSR "the people decided"? Or was it not me who went to the "elections" in the USSR, where the only candidate was on the ballot?
    By the way, a water tax is introduced .. for summer residents and homeowners

    And this is a direct and undisguised fake!
    https://www.mk.ru
    “We asked the Russian Union of Gardeners to comment on the situation.

    - To which of us now pay and how to fill out our artesian wells?

    - Residents of villages, owners of private housing, just private traders in their gardens can calm down, these requirements do not concern them at all, - leading experts explained to us. - An artesian well is a complex hydraulic structure that a municipality or a large enterprise can afford. All of them, wells, are registered and marked on the maps of the General Plan. And provide users with clean drinking water.

    - And if someone has drilled a well at his site and he pumps water from there?

    - It's not artesian, it's just a hole in the ground. The well is also a "hole in the ground", everyone, the overwhelming majority, can calm down, they do not need to formalize anything. Licenses must be obtained by the owners of these artesian wells: municipalities and some SNT, in which they are recognized as such objects. It is an expensive exploration process that identifies aquifers. "

    So, a real enemy appeared to VO readers, who does not disdain anything to fight against Russia!
  • Per se.
    Per se. 30 June 2020 11: 24 New
    +4
    Quote: Svarog
    I don’t know what this will lead to, but I’m sure that nothing good will come of it.
    Possibly an air tax, based on age and individual spirometry. As they used to say in history, the more bad the king was, the more taxes there were in the country. In fact, the "rain tax", almost according to the Soviet cartoon "Cipollino", under the guise of servicing rain showers, has already appeared in the Perm Territory (Kungur, June, 2018). What is already surprising.
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 29 June 2020 16: 04 New
    12
    New Putin will open a new offshore account for the old raldugin.
  • Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 29 June 2020 16: 16 New
    -18
    Well cho you resist dude?
    It’s just that the United States is struggling in agony, and no cancer can prevent the Russians from rewriting the Constitution.
    And for example, 5 years ago, and even 3 years ago, to do this was problematic, if not impossible.
    But Putin has created the conditions for this to take place safely and painlessly.
  • bistrov.
    bistrov. 30 June 2020 03: 27 New
    0
    NO., NOT CORRECT ...
  • Vend
    Vend 29 June 2020 15: 31 New
    -9
    laughing laughing tantrums began, the USSR will not return, do not be intimidated, but the most interesting thing is that many are mumbled about his return
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 29 June 2020 15: 34 New
      24
      Quote: Wend
      tantrums began, the USSR will not return, do not be intimidated, but the most interesting thing is that many are mumbled about his return

      I really dream of returning the USSR, but to be sure to join my youth! yes
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 29 June 2020 15: 38 New
        -36
        Bring me back youth, and keep the scoop for yourself.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 29 June 2020 15: 47 New
          20
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          Bring me back youth, and keep the scoop for yourself.

          Have you forgotten how it was in the USSR? You buy a bottle, you have a load of "friendship" cheese. So your youth can be returned, but only with a load - from the USSR! laughing
          1. Far B
            Far B 30 June 2020 00: 52 New
            +2
            By the way, I would not refuse such cheese. I still try different varieties - neither the processed cheeses nor the mayonnaise have the same taste.
        2. Vend
          Vend 29 June 2020 16: 04 New
          -4
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          Bring me back youth, and keep the scoop for yourself.
          do not be afraid the USSR will not return, time has changed. So you will be without youth. and without the USSR laughing
      2. Vend
        Vend 29 June 2020 15: 40 New
        -3
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Quote: Wend
        tantrums began, the USSR will not return, do not be intimidated, but the most interesting thing is that many are mumbled about his return

        I really dream of returning the USSR, but to be sure to join my youth! yes
        yes, youth is not coming back.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 29 June 2020 15: 50 New
          +3
          Quote: Wend
          yes, youth is not coming back.

          Yes, she leaves quietly ...
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 June 2020 15: 52 New
        12
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        I really dream of returning the USSR, but to be sure to join my youth!

        If together with youth, I am resolutely FOR !!!
    2. Malyuta
      Malyuta 29 June 2020 16: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: Wend
      there were tantrums, the USSR will not return, do not be intimidated, but the most interesting thing is that many people mumble about his return

      And what will you personally do if the USSR returns? Will you glue your party card back?
      1. Varyag71
        Varyag71 29 June 2020 16: 14 New
        -7
        Begin to write denunciations
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 29 June 2020 16: 18 New
          +3
          Quote: Varyag71
          Begin to write denunciations

          Yeah, and tell the people's tribunal that he was always for Soviet power.
        2. Vend
          Vend 29 June 2020 16: 19 New
          -5
          Quote: Varyag71
          Begin to write denunciations

          What is closer to him about that and writes laughing
      2. Vend
        Vend 29 June 2020 16: 19 New
        -6
        Quote: Malyuta
        Quote: Wend
        there were tantrums, the USSR will not return, do not be intimidated, but the most interesting thing is that many people mumble about his return

        And what will you personally do if the USSR returns? Will you glue your party card back?

        Yes, the USSR will not return. I’m not so old when it was necessary to join the party of the USSR laughing
      3. Svarog
        Svarog 29 June 2020 16: 26 New
        17
        Quote: Malyuta
        And what will you personally do if the USSR returns? Will you glue your party card back?

        laughing If the USSR returns .. I’m sure most of those who are now in power will immediately transform themselves and turn into an ardent communist .. the demon beguiled .. they will say so .. but rather not If .. and when the USSR returns ..
        1. Far B
          Far B 29 June 2020 17: 38 New
          +6
          So Putin is not in vain hinting that he keeps his party card. "And what am I? I'm nicho!")))
  • Maki Avellevich
    Maki Avellevich 29 June 2020 18: 34 New
    +1
    Quote: Deniska999
    As they say, history repeats itself twice: once in the form of tragedy, the other in the form of farce.

    Have you ever heard of Tragic Farce?
  • Vicontas
    Vicontas 29 June 2020 20: 10 New
    0
    In the Soviet Union, prices were reduced! But the author is preparing to increase - it means that it is no longer the Soviet Union! In the Soviet Union, the birth rate exceeded mortality - on the contrary, people don’t want to give birth to children when life does not inspire confidence for tomorrow! So the author does not smoke bamboo from the other end! And as for the electoral system - I remember pictures of the UK vote on the withdrawal of Scotland from the Kingdom! In the picture - 52% for the exit, 54% - against! So it is not necessary to make the Soviet system unique - people and the Soviet Union are not at all support the results, and those who are scared before the pig squeal are afraid of its revival!
  • zenion
    zenion 30 June 2020 14: 25 New
    0
    This other form is called Imperial Russia named after Tsar Putin.
  • atakan
    atakan 1 July 2020 09: 54 New
    0
    The Soviet Union without socialism? Funny nonsense for the stupid naive part of the patriots.
    The Soviet Union without Kazakhstan, Belarus and Ukraine is a custom scarecrow at the request of the United States and NATO in particular.
    They all there, as well as Europe, really need a weak scarecrow to reanimate the old theses of McCarthyism, and the whole other gang from the military-industrial complex.
  • iouris
    iouris 1 July 2020 14: 06 New
    -3
    Quote: Deniska999
    history is repeated twice: once in the form of tragedy, the other in the form of farce.

    Marx was wrong. The farce is repeated. The one who said that it is impossible to enter the same river twice, was also grossly mistaken. But the question remains: how many times can one drown in one river?
  • Woodman
    Woodman 29 June 2020 15: 08 New
    +5
    The main thing is that they won. All. Congratulations.
    Somehow gave up early ...
    Future brainless and incapable of analyzing the electorate.
    Yeah ... That's how it is ... Again, the wrong people ... Well, what kind of zest?
    “No, but what does the author suggest?”
    By the way, what does the author suggest?
    1. unaha
      unaha 29 June 2020 15: 16 New
      17
      The author offers a very difficult and costly process in terms of calories - to think. Head. Independently. And not just think, but also analyze, and then draw conclusions. And oh, horror! Predict the consequences!
      In addition, the author proposes to train the memory so that it is sufficient to hold events for at least the last 20 years.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 29 June 2020 15: 24 New
        +7
        Quote: unaha
        think. Head. Independently. And not just think, but also analyze, and then draw conclusions

        That is, he a priori refuses to accept the option in which people made a deliberate choice? Based on an analysis of the past two decades? Hardly.
        Quote: unaha
        so that it is enough to hold events for at least the last 20 years.

        And some remember even a little more. The last 30 years already. Well remembered. Century would not remember them. Remember and compare. Compare and analyze. Analyze and make a choice.
        Or what is beyond the framework of the twenty years to forget?
        1. unaha
          unaha 29 June 2020 15: 30 New
          +3
          I am very glad that there are such people! The last step is to start predicting the consequences. Which, in a not-so-distant future, lead exactly to "I would not remember them for a century."
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 29 June 2020 16: 00 New
            +1
            Quote: unaha
            I am very glad that there are such people! It remains to take the last step - to begin to predict the consequences.

            Well, what about such a forecast. If the USSR returns, they immediately ask "Where is your party card, where is the USSR passport, have you been engaged in private business?" Then, probably, many will think.
      2. bar
        bar 29 June 2020 15: 49 New
        +5
        The author offers a very difficult and costly process in terms of calories - to think. Head. Independently. And not just think, but also analyze, and then draw conclusions. And oh, horror! Predict the consequences!
        In addition, the author proposes to train the memory so that it is sufficient to hold events for at least the last 20 years.

        The author himself would learn to think with his head. And to train memory not only for the last 20 years, but at least for 30. It seems he’s not a kid already, I have to remember. And, at least by age, he still does not have to be insanely to forget everything.
        1. unaha
          unaha 29 June 2020 17: 05 New
          -2
          Well, he remembers. What ended with one correct party, irremovable political bureau, state economy. Do you remember?
          1. bar
            bar 29 June 2020 17: 12 New
            0
            Well, he remembers. What ended with one correct party, irremovable political bureau, state economy. Do you remember?

            I remember. It ended in the 90s. With poverty, banditry, the collapse of the country. It was democracy. Have you forgotten too? Hike in your sect of all-fledged people, this amnesia is contagious, if you again call for "freedom and democracy."
            1. unaha
              unaha 29 June 2020 17: 22 New
              -1
              So do you suggest repeating the whole cycle? )))
              1. bar
                bar 29 June 2020 17: 25 New
                +1
                Do you propose to immediately return to the 90s without waiting for the end of the cycle?
                I suggest - works - don't bother
                Moreover, there are constructive proposals for improving the work besides Down with!!! your party still doesn’t.
                1. Grandfather
                  Grandfather 29 June 2020 17: 34 New
                  +4
                  Quote: bar
                  I suggest - it works - do not bother

                  still .. such workers ...
                  1. bar
                    bar 29 June 2020 17: 36 New
                    -4
                    still .. such workers ...

                    Do you have others?
                    "Announce the entire list please" (c)
                    1. bar
                      bar 30 June 2020 15: 34 New
                      +3
                      Clearly, there is no list, there are only minuses laughing
                      This is your true oppositional essence. Except "down" there is no constructiveness.
                  2. alone
                    alone 29 June 2020 17: 43 New
                    10
                    belay I remember such a design in our courtyard of the police department
                    "The police are looking for them!" laughing laughing
                    1. CT-55_11-9009
                      CT-55_11-9009 1 July 2020 14: 55 New
                      0
                      Oh, how on each photo there are not enough black ribbons in the lower right corner ... In this case, however, all the button accordions would disappear from the shelves of music stores in an instant, then accordions, accordions, etc. Well, vodka from boutiques would be cleaned out completely.
                      1. alone
                        alone 1 July 2020 15: 05 New
                        0
                        Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                        Oh, how on each photo there are not enough black ribbons in the lower right corner ... In this case, however, all the button accordions would disappear from the shelves of music stores in an instant, then accordions, accordions, etc. Well, vodka from boutiques would be cleaned out completely.

                        laughing laughing laughing At least some benefit would be from them good
                2. unaha
                  unaha 29 June 2020 17: 34 New
                  +9
                  Excuse me, why should we return to the 90s? Why shouldn’t we go forward?
                  1. ABC
                    ABC 29 June 2020 17: 49 New
                    -2
                    You can go, only your leaders do not say exactly where. Your planning horizon ends with "down", "down to the ground and then ...". Not a single opp has yet told me what will happen "next". But it's dumb to go forward into complete darkness.
                    There was once a certain Yavlinsky, so he had a program for at least 500 days. And you?
                    1. forpost
                      forpost 29 June 2020 18: 46 New
                      +1
                      and they have a hole in their pocket
                    2. Sergey Zhikharev
                      Sergey Zhikharev 29 June 2020 20: 30 New
                      -1
                      What exactly are "our leaders"?
                      Then - new laws, to equate the salaries of deputies to the welfare of the people, build more hospitals, kindergartens and schools, introduce a progressive tax scale, the salaries of football players from a won match. Well and further - to revise the results of privatization, to nationalize something. To abandon a similarly illogical Russian economy (that is, when in Europe the price rises for something, it also rises because our economy is similar, and when in Europe the price drops for something, it rises because our economy is illogical).
                      And this is not to mention “to shoot half of the deputies, and to repaint the building of the State Duma in green-pink color” (as I understand, all the difficulty will be with the green-pink color).
          2. ABC
            ABC 29 June 2020 17: 44 New
            +5
            What ended with one correct party, irremovable political bureau, state economy. Do you remember?

            I, too, vaguely remember something. There was industrialization, the hardest war won, the restoration of the country, nuclear energy, space. And it all ended in squares, here are the slogans "down with", your dear multi-party system, devastation and banditry.
            1. unaha
              unaha 29 June 2020 17: 49 New
              +4
              And do you want to draw conclusions about the causes of "areas" and the consequences? Or did they arise by themselves, without any preconditions?
              1. ABC
                ABC 29 June 2020 17: 57 New
                +3
                I drew conclusions about the destructiveness of the areas themselves. Everything else is discussed if there are constructive suggestions for discussion. But, to our great regret, we do not have precisely constructive opposition. And there is only "down with", which is only inexperienced young growth in puberty, with his hormonal nihilism. How adult men are being led to this, I honestly do not understand.
                1. unaha
                  unaha 29 June 2020 18: 09 New
                  -2
                  Usually it comes to "squares" if there are no other means of influencing the authorities. And this is a bad symptom. This means that significant groups of citizens do not have the opportunity to realize their interests in legal ways. Or do not believe in such methods.
                  1. codetalker
                    codetalker 29 June 2020 18: 50 New
                    +1
                    “Squares” - have never appeared in your life the way you described. They appear when some group in government wants to raise their level / seize power / hold a coup.
                    1. unaha
                      unaha 29 June 2020 18: 58 New
                      -1
                      Why then? Groups are more likely to "ride" already existing potential. At the same time, it is not at all easy to shake a prosperous society to a radical protest.
                      1. ABC
                        ABC 29 June 2020 19: 13 New
                        +3
                        rocking a radical protest into a prosperous society is far from easy.

                        A mass society is never safe. In any society, there are always from a group of discontented, beggars, lumpen, just buzotery. And shaking them costs nothing. For many, this is just for fun and out of boredom.
                        An example is "prosperous" France, USA, England, etc.
                      2. unaha
                        unaha 29 June 2020 19: 34 New
                        0
                        You have listed prosperous countries, but not prosperous "societies" at all. In these countries, with big contradictions with migrants, local "minorities" like Algerians and Arabs in France have been raging for a long time and this will be for a long time. Should we rock Switzerland or Australia? However, the West as a whole has been actively inventing problems for themselves lately. Someday it will affect.
                    2. codetalker
                      codetalker 29 June 2020 19: 15 New
                      +5
                      All protests are organized. Another thing is that the crowd needs something to vparit, so that it would be emotionally heated. And for this, real problems are used (which often were created by these groups in the course of their management).
                      Elemental protests exist only in such forms in which the impulse is immediately translated into action. They took the villas - the gentleman banged. But these standing in the squares always require a very serious organization. Otherwise, people will disperse in an hour (at best).
                2. forpost
                  forpost 29 June 2020 18: 55 New
                  +3
                  The funniest thing in this situation, while we are being rubbed about the squares, someone added a child to Stanford.
                3. bar
                  bar 29 June 2020 19: 05 New
                  -1
                  Usually it comes to "squares" if there are no other means of influencing the authorities. And this is a bad symptom. This means that significant groups of citizens do not have the opportunity to realize their interests in legal ways. Or do not believe in such methods.

                  Just a bunch of questions. Answer me?
                  1. What exactly do you want from the government, influencing it?
                  2. What kind of groups of citizens?
                  3. What exactly are the interests of these groups of citizens?
                  4. Are these groups united by precisely these interests, or do each group have their own?
                  5. What if the interests of some groups conflict with other groups?
                  This is so, for starters, inspired by your demagogy.
                  Reply weakly?
                  1. unaha
                    unaha 29 June 2020 19: 15 New
                    +2
                    1. Realization of their interests. Do you think that citizens should not influence the government?
                    2. Anyone having common interests. Why are you interested in?
                    3. For example, the fulfillment of a promise or excise tax on gasoline or transport tax. Do not remind us, have any of this been canceled?
                    4. As you like. It does not matter.
                    5. Compromise, reasonable people know how to come to mutually beneficial solutions.
                    Demagogy is manifested precisely in the current advertisement of amendments.
                    1. bar
                      bar 29 June 2020 19: 44 New
                      +2
                      1. Realization of their interests. Do you think that citizens should not influence the government?

                      If citizens will directly influence power, taking into account that there are many citizens and they want to influence each in their own way, this will not be power, but anarchy and a mess.

                      2. Anyone having common interests. Why are you interested in?

                      In order to clarify your demagogic statements. Unfortunately in vain ...

                      3. For example, the fulfillment of a promise or excise tax on gasoline or transport tax. Do not remind us, have any of this been canceled?

                      Is this the most serious claim to power? I would have your worries ...

                      4. As you like. It does not matter.

                      Those. you are expected to have no specific offers.
                      And naschet "whatever" you are deeply mistaken. After all, after the accomplished "down", each group will begin to fight precisely for their interests. And the fight will no longer be against the government, which is "down", but with other groups. And the strongest, most prepared and most brutal group will survive. The rest of the groups will go to the crematorium / gulag / to the guillotine. History (for those who have studied it at least a little) has shown this repeatedly.

                      5. Compromise, reasonable people know how to come to mutually beneficial solutions.

                      Either we are foolish people, since there is no compromise, or one of two ... It’s sad sad
                    2. Sergey Zhikharev
                      Sergey Zhikharev 29 June 2020 20: 41 New
                      +2
                      If citizens will directly influence power, taking into account that there are many citizens and they want to influence each in their own way, this will not be power, but anarchy and a mess.

                      those. when citizens oppose some kind of law (toll road, higher fuel prices) is this called anarchy?
                      Is this the most serious claim to power? I would have your worries ...

                      Do not take someone else's burden lightly. Increase in gas prices = increase in prices for goods (products, clothing, appliances). Accordingly, low gas prices = low prices for goods.
                      Those. you are expected to have no specific offers.
                      And naschet "whatever" you are deeply mistaken. After all, after the accomplished "down with" each group will begin to fight for their own interests. And the fight will no longer be against the government, which is "down", but with other groups. And the strongest, most prepared and most brutal group will survive. The rest of the groups will go to the crematorium / gulag / to the guillotine. History (for those who have studied it at least a little) has repeatedly shown this

                      Sorry, but many representatives of Ukrainian groups after 2014 went to the crematorium / gulag / guillotine. Not to mention the fact that the revolution is supported by various groups who are not happy with the situation.
                      Either we are foolish people, since there is no compromise, or one of two ... It’s sad

                      Sad so sad
                    3. kot28.ru
                      kot28.ru 30 June 2020 01: 10 New
                      -2
                      In Ukraine, there is still a civil war as a result of a coup d'etat. Not a gulag but a war. Enough, they have fought in Russia.
                  2. kot28.ru
                    kot28.ru 30 June 2020 01: 07 New
                    -2
                    He and his group have one interest: a panduget and further until the troubles will snatch something. What excise taxes are there :)))
          3. codetalker
            codetalker 29 June 2020 18: 47 New
            +2
            How this is done by adult men, I honestly do not understand.

            So I, too, sincerely can not understand!
  • forpost
    forpost 29 June 2020 20: 43 New
    +3
    it is strange that the author avoids this how can
  • Sergey39
    Sergey39 29 June 2020 15: 28 New
    -6
    The author plays the role of a jester or a bad cop who is allowed everything. He offers nothing.
  • bar
    bar 29 June 2020 15: 53 New
    +3
    By the way, what does the author suggest?

    Well, as usual - Down with!!!
    Thinking further does not give a feeling of fierce hatred of the "totalitarian regime"
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 29 June 2020 16: 04 New
      -11
      Totalitarian or liberal?
      1. ABC
        ABC 29 June 2020 16: 30 New
        -2
        Why delve into such small details. The main thing is down !!!
        1. bar
          bar 29 June 2020 17: 16 New
          -1
          Why delve into such small details. The main thing is down !!!

          The guys just stick out on the process. The result is of little interest to them.
          1. ABC
            ABC 29 June 2020 19: 16 New
            0
            Well, not really "not interested". For many of them, hanging around in the process is a job, grants are paid for it.
      2. Pilot
        Pilot 29 June 2020 18: 19 New
        +2
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Totalitarian or liberal?

        To the bourgeois! A liberal or totalitarian regime is not important. Goal number one is capitalism, feudalism. angry
  • Doctor
    Doctor 29 June 2020 15: 11 New
    -12
    That is to say a firm and confident "Yes!"

    Say a firm and confident "No." Total business.
    1. depressant
      depressant 29 June 2020 19: 07 New
      +6
      There is a huge bureaucratic apparatus - officials, beginning with the small village administrations and ending with the head of the government (there used to be Medvedev, now Mishustin). And that, mind you, millions of people. There are also legislators of all levels, the highest political power in the person of the president and a group of very rich people, colloquially called oligarchs.
      Let's say Putin, like any head of state in a civilized part of the world, wants to see his country great. Even if within the framework that squeezes his activities (we know about them - lack of authority, subordination to the IMF, sanctions, personal obligations). For this, the current Deputy Prime Minister, and earlier the presidential adviser Andrei Belousov, has developed national projects. Money for them as an excess interest in the NWF accumulated for a long time and persistently. At the cost of giving up "excesses" in education, medicine, science, etc. That is, optimization. Even through the pension reform. In other words, through serious losses that fell on the shoulders of the population. We saved it, it should be spent on the implementation of national projects, but the allocated funds were not spent. The bureaucracy is not capable of creating anything. But to prevent the creation of something, she is great. The sabotage of national projects by the bureaucracy, its corruption, combined with the corruption of legislators lobbying for the interests of oligarchs, leads to the fact that, in the end, money that has not been spent on the implementation of national projects surprisingly migrates to the personal offshore accounts of both oligarchs and bureaucrats and legislators. All this became apparent last year. What to do? It is hard to pinch the bureaucratic class and the legislature, at least locally, as a mechanism for the illegal redistribution of state funds into personal ownership. Something was being done. Arrests, plantings went on all last year and continue to this day, as evidenced by the press. It can be assumed that all this corrupt fraternity, seriously straining in connection with the possibility of losing the feeder, began to snap back robustly. And in order to strengthen his position, Putin urgently needed popular support. He cannot address the people directly and outline the situation that has arisen - these are the conditions for their existence in power. Roughly speaking, it is not a fact that he will be alive. Only voting on amendments as a bargaining chip that can be turned in front of the noses of presumptuous kraduns. And the fact that, in addition to zeroing out, Putin introduced social amendments to the Constitution, speaks not only and not so much of his populism as of the seriousness of the situation in the power corridor. It seems that everything looks like that, doesn't it?
      So yes not so. In fact, voting on amendments is a test of the loyalty of the bureaucracy. Which side will they take. There will be a given% pro --- loyal! We have forgotten that the administrative resource for any vote is able to draw not only the required% "for", but also the% "against" paid by someone.
      Only Putin has forgotten something, namely: the crafty bureaucracy will draw him any percentage "for", and she herself will continue to do her dastardly affairs. And we, as we were, will remain a bargaining chip in Putin's struggle to strengthen his personal power. And it is not a fact that nishtyaks will fall from heaven on the heads of those who sincerely vote "for". The stones that will have to be collected in the future would not have fallen.
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 29 June 2020 19: 23 New
        -3
        There is a huge bureaucratic apparatus

        The official bureaucracy is not capable of creating anything. But to impede the creation of something she is much.

        It can be assumed that all this corrupt fraternity, seriously straining in connection with the possibility of losing a feeder, began to snap its snarls. And in order to strengthen his position, Putin urgently needed popular support.

        Lyudmila, you have a peculiar view of the relationship between Putin and the bureaucracy. But totally not true.
        The bureaucracy is officials, and the President is the main one. The whole system rests on slavish obedience to a superior, there is no mention of any obstruction, let alone gnawing. All such attempts are severely suppressed at an early stage from exile to landing. Examples are well known.

        An idea like the tsar does not know what the boyars are doing, it was invented by the people, because all the rulers on people strive to be kind with simple people and strict with bosses. But in the cabinets the opposite is true.

        A flock may attack the leader, but for this Akella must miss. Until this time has come.
        1. depressant
          depressant 29 June 2020 19: 39 New
          0
          Colleague Arzt, I accept your point of view and do not insist on mine at all. Therefore, I used the expression "Let's say, Putin ..." and further in the text. It is bad that our government is so closed from the people. This suggests that she considers us immature for some kind of serious dialogue. But it is precisely this idea of ​​us that contributes to our immaturity. It is so closed that not only we do not know what is going on in the Kremlin, but the Kremlin also positions itself as knowing nothing about us. Remember the constantly bewildered look of Peskov: "The Kremlin does not know ...")))
          1. Doctor
            Doctor 29 June 2020 19: 48 New
            -4
            It’s bad that our power is so closed from the people. This suggests that she considers us immature for some serious dialogue.

            Power is closed from the people, because if the people know how everything is arranged there, then power is over.
            It is so closed that not only we do not know what is going on in the Kremlin, but the Kremlin also positions itself as knowing nothing about us. Remember the constantly bewildered look of Peskov: "The Kremlin does not know ...")))

            This he only positions. In fact, the main resources and efforts of the authorities (in the sense of leaders) are aimed at maintaining power (in the sense of a phenomenon).
            They all know very well, and constantly keep their finger on the pulse.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 29 June 2020 15: 18 New
    +1
    Strange: the vote has just begun, the EXACT results have not yet been announced (so far they only speak of preliminary data on the turnout and anonymous exit polls) - and Roman has already begun an obscure incoherent hysteria! Again the wrong people!
    1. parma
      parma 29 June 2020 15: 33 New
      +5
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      Strange: the vote has just begun, the EXACT results have not yet been announced (so far they only speak of preliminary data on the turnout and anonymous exit polls) - and Roman has already begun an obscure incoherent hysteria! Again the wrong people!

      And the Guarantor already told us the approximate data, 60% will come to vote, 70% for ... by the way, what about the laws on campaigning before / during the voting? The federal channels seem to have forgotten about this (I am silent about the main priests, stars and skaters)
      1. Far B
        Far B 29 June 2020 17: 48 New
        +4
        And the current "voting" does not fall under the law on elections. Everything is possible: coercion, agitation, the use of administrative resources ...
      2. forpost
        forpost 29 June 2020 18: 56 New
        +1
        so this is not an election
        1. Far B
          Far B 30 June 2020 00: 23 New
          0
          Exactly. Putin just wanted to tickle his ego. Ticklers immediately a lot was drawn. Fortunately, the tickling process is not regulated at all.
          1. forpost
            forpost 1 July 2020 15: 12 New
            +1
            the constitution should serve our interests and the point. And here is the fear of tickling?
    2. bar
      bar 29 June 2020 15: 44 New
      -3
      Unlucky with all the people with the people. Sadness ... tongue
    3. Insurgent
      Insurgent 29 June 2020 15: 50 New
      -5
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      Strange: the vote has just begun, the EXACT results have not yet been announced (so far they only speak of preliminary data on the turnout and anonymous exit polls) - and Roman has already begun an obscure incoherent hysteria!

      The whole Skomorokhov "inside out" yes What to take from him? He’s such a little man ... Subjected to panic.
      1. Borz
        Borz 29 June 2020 17: 13 New
        -6
        All Skomorokhov "inside out", what to take from him? Such is the man he is ... Susceptible to panic.



        As soon as I started reading the article, I realized who the author was. It is impossible not to know. Panic, panic .... And the most unpleasant thing is that he offers nothing but "think, think." That is, in his opinion, people have forgotten how to think?
    4. Gardamir
      Gardamir 29 June 2020 15: 57 New
      +5
      Strange: the vote has just begun
      Doesn’t it seem strange to you that voting takes a week? And let us also hold elections by week.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 29 June 2020 16: 11 New
        0
        Quote: Gardamir
        Doesn’t it seem strange to you that voting takes a week? And let us also hold elections by week.

        I am for. Is it very convenient, or did you miss the queues? laughing

        You are opposed to changing the Constitution, but the Constitution, which is still in force, from 1993, brought the country almost to the collapse of the internecine wars of the newly-made princes.

        A return to those times is quite real. The only guarantee against this is to rewrite the Constitution in the interests of Russia.

        What guarantees do you have that there will be no return to the 90s if the Constitution remains the same?
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 29 June 2020 16: 52 New
          +2
          A return to those times is quite real. The only guarantee against this is to rewrite the Constitution in the interests of Russia.

          What guarantees do you have that there will be no return to the 90s if the Constitution remains the same?

          Russia under Yeltsin and Russia under Putin are two different states.
          And the Constitution all this time was one.
          That is, it did not have any impact on our life, it’s just a formal set of universally recognized truths, no one even read them ever, which Isinbayeva admitted with a sweet smile.

          The rise of the 2000s was due to Putin’s personal energy, which was especially noticeable against the background of the old sick Yeltsin and high oil prices.

          But now we have an aging president and low oil prices.
          Since 2014, we have rolled downhill.
          Will the amendments to the Constitution help us? We'll see. wink
          1. depressant
            depressant 29 June 2020 19: 58 New
            -3
            Yeltsin sowed, Putin weeded, diligently fertilized and sprayed. Something has grown, but how it has blossomed! In such cases, the people say - "double color"))
      2. codetalker
        codetalker 29 June 2020 16: 33 New
        0
        By the way, it’s very convenient. It would be necessary to extend to other elections.
      3. Tank hard
        Tank hard 29 June 2020 16: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Gardamir
        Doesn’t it seem strange to you that voting takes a week? And let’s also hold elections by week.

        Mother walked, said everything calmly, no crowds, and therefore no virus. request
    5. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 29 June 2020 16: 06 New
      -2
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      EXACT RESULTS ARE NOT ANNOUNCED

      Well, 70 to 70, everyone already understands
    6. saigon
      saigon 29 June 2020 16: 48 New
      -1
      VTsIOM has already spoken according to surveys of 76% of those who voted for!
      So they returned the USSR in a separate aspect of overfulfilling the order.
      1. depressant
        depressant 29 June 2020 20: 01 New
        -1
        It would be better to return the USSR in the aspect of Sergei Pavlovich Korolev.
  • svp33
    svp33 29 June 2020 15: 23 New
    +1
    I do not regret Skomorokhov, but I liked the article. If you merge all sarcasm, you will get a direct call for revolution.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 29 June 2020 16: 59 New
      +9
      Why are they fighting in hysterics, who are "for"? all fake "amendments", and before that were spelled out in the "federal laws", why the hell do you think that since they were dragged into the constitution, they will immediately start working? before that, who interfered? but everything is simple ... it became necessary to "reset". here's ... poll ... like. forward ... wail .. ". kiwins" damn ...
      1. depressant
        depressant 29 June 2020 20: 05 New
        -2
        Dear, it remains a hope that the amendments will be dragged into the Bible over time. New Testament. Maybe then they will earn?
    2. Doctor
      Doctor 29 June 2020 17: 03 New
      +3
      I do not regret Skomorokhov, but I liked the article. If you merge all sarcasm, you will get a direct call for revolution.

      Yes, what is the revolution?
      Someone forces to jump on the embrasure, or illegally drag the "Spark" across the border, or at least go to an unauthorized rally?
      Just go and write what you think.
      Anonymously. Secretly. Nobody will know.
      But even this is scary to many.
      Eh people, people ... The wise Chekhov was right.
      1. Region68
        Region68 29 June 2020 19: 50 New
        +1
        And Lermontov ..
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 29 June 2020 15: 36 New
    11
    Everyone says that in Russia the people have become a stupid bunch of rams, unable to say "No" to the lawlessness of power ... But as soon as this bunch of rams in some place suddenly becomes an organized wolf pack and says "No!" To the lawlessness of power, then immediately these "all" squeal - ahhh, do you want to arrange the Maidan ?! An example of Ukraine is not enough for you ?! Fuck you!
    1. forpost
      forpost 29 June 2020 19: 00 New
      +1
      so far no wolf pack is visible, only a herd of mostly office "hard workers"
      1. depressant
        depressant 29 June 2020 20: 18 New
        0
        Office "hard workers" - the costs of civilization, colleague)) This is how Mishustin will replace office plankton with a remote, or even more so - with artificial intelligence, how and who will then be knocked into "wolf packs"?)))))
  • prior
    prior 29 June 2020 15: 36 New
    0
    Curious.
    Is that historical memory that we are introduced to today as historical memory, is it exactly that?
    And if you open the secret archives, which are now closed both in our country and in the West, will the historical memory remain the same? or will there be a new historical memory for which they did not vote?
    Recently, everything has changed so quickly ..... it suddenly opens that the Soviet orientation was unconventional ....
    Why are attempts to find out the historical truth more often than not lead to a dead end ?!
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 29 June 2020 18: 12 New
      +3
      The historical memory that we are offered today will be tomorrow. And it doesn’t depend on the vote. Remember how they talked about de-Stalinization in the presidency of Medvedev and how they got rebuffed. They made conclusions, realized that they did not make a quick change of concepts and began to act gradually. Step by step ... They will act the same after the vote, only the steps will be wider ...
      1. depressant
        depressant 29 June 2020 20: 22 New
        0
        In fact, the mentality of the people is changing for centuries, or even not changing at all. It’s time for the government to understand this, yes, there’s nothing to see.
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 29 June 2020 15: 38 New
    -4
    And about the article - for the first time I read something (in my opinion) from Skomorokhov sensible. Really smart. And not bullshit like all the previous ones.
    1. depressant
      depressant 29 June 2020 20: 26 New
      -1
      Take it easy, colleague! To offend the Author is a simple matter, but indecent, like public exposure))) And then he praised how ....)))
  • bar
    bar 29 June 2020 15: 43 New
    0
    Yes, from the first letters of the text I want to congratulate all our supporters of the Great Constitutional Breakthrough, the Winners of liberals and pederasts and all that.

    From the first letters he took and called pederasts all those who were not part of your all-propaganda party. So who are you after that?
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 29 June 2020 16: 34 New
      -3
      Mdeya, it’s hard to be plush, everyone strives to offend ... lol
      Nitsche, after the 1st day you’ll have a sip, honey, a full spoon .. wassat
  • General failure
    General failure 29 June 2020 15: 44 New
    -2
    I will speak with the brainless electorate: Well, what does the author suggest? Which course? Sing, little bird, don't be ashamed.
    Make peace with the west? Tried in the early 90s. Still hiccups.
    To quarrel with China? What the hell?

    As for politics, I personally, as an electorate, am interested in it approximately as the state of the engine in my car. The time has come for regulations (oh, voting), we’ll go to the service station (oh, to the polling station). And let him unwind kilometers further.

    And so it will be as long as I, the electorate, have sausage in the refrigerator and clear prospects for its replenishment. And all this is. And sausage and perspectives.
    It works - do not touch. This simple truth is known to any more or less competent techie.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 29 June 2020 16: 04 New
      -1
      Well, what does the author suggest
      You are like a wife from a joke. While shaving in the bathroom, the wife asked something. she answered herself, she was offended from the bathroom and went out divorced.
      Where the author calls for reconciliation with the West. And the current government will never argue with the West. Treasurer both bought and bought
      1. General failure
        General failure 29 June 2020 16: 09 New
        +4
        Where the author calls for reconciliation with the West

        I'm asking "Which course?"and express possible vectors.

        As soon as you answered for the author, then "What course?"
        For the article consists of solid half-hints about "how bad everything is", but offers nothing to do well.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 29 June 2020 16: 19 New
          11
          "What course?"
          Naturally, I’m not responsible for the author, but for myself.
          Nationalization of major industries.
          The development of the economy based on its own resources, and not in anticipation of Western investment.
          It is not a matter of quarreling or reconciling with the West, it is merely business cooperation where the West is ready, but not as an impartial partnership.
          Nobody is going to swear with China. I understand that the arms business is profitable, but so far there are more articles about foreign treaties, and not about what goes into the army.
          Nobody takes away sausage from you. But sausage, not substance from horns and hooves. Here you can enter a strict GOST.
          1. General failure
            General failure 29 June 2020 16: 36 New
            0
            Nationalization of major industries.

            Is being done. It may not be as frisky as you want - but everything goes in that direction. If you do everything abruptly, you will quarrel with the oligarchy and everything will stall. And so, the oligarchs are gradually brought in and the meridian is integrated into the state machine.
            The presence of the oligarchy is certainly bad, but it is there, it is quite influential, therefore, until it is weakened, it will not work to completely ignore its interests.
            Economic development based on own resources

            Is being done. Import substitution and tede.
            Do not swear or put up with the West

            Is being done. But the West has long been firmly set to swear - the demonization of Russia and the withdrawal from arms control treaties will not let you lie.
            Nobody is going to swear with China

            So no one swears.

            That is, the government is moving in the right direction. The fact that it is not smooth everywhere is quite predictable. "Not everything is smooth" is an inevitable consequence of any creative process.
            And hysterically twisting their legs and yelling "do me well, right here and right now", as the author does - the behavior of a badly brought up preschool child.
          2. Tank hard
            Tank hard 29 June 2020 16: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: Gardamir
            Naturally, I’m not responsible for the author, but for myself.
            Nationalization of major industries.
            The development of the economy based on its own resources, and not in anticipation of Western investment.
            It is not a matter of quarreling or reconciling with the West, it is merely business cooperation where the West is ready, but not as an impartial partnership.
            Nobody is going to swear with China. I understand that the arms business is profitable, but so far there are more articles about foreign treaties, and not about what goes into the army.
            Nobody takes away sausage from you. But sausage, not substance from horns and hooves. Here you can enter a strict GOST.

            Write a competent article, we will read and discuss it, those in the know will support it or criticize it with arguments, but for now the conversation is "nothing". But Skomorokhov really did not make any sensible proposals ... request
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard 29 June 2020 16: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: Gardamir
        Where the author calls for reconciliation with the West

        Where are the constructive suggestions? And I can criticize ... repeat
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 29 June 2020 16: 45 New
      +5
      Quote: General Failure
      I will speak with the brainless electorate: Well, what does the author suggest? Which course? Sing, little bird, don't be ashamed.
      Make peace with the west? Tried in the early 90s. Still hiccups.
      To quarrel with China? What the hell?

      As for politics, I personally, as an electorate, am interested in it approximately as the state of the engine in my car. The time has come for regulations (oh, voting), we’ll go to the service station (oh, to the polling station). And let him unwind kilometers further.

      And so it will be as long as I, the electorate, have sausage in the refrigerator and clear prospects for its replenishment. And all this is. And sausage and perspectives.
      It works - do not touch. This simple truth is known to any more or less competent techie.

      By the way, a very good comment, plus. Indeed, the truth is full of critics, and as for the case, there is nothing but criticism. Well, or there the calls for revolutions are different. but the revolution we have already seen, sausages from them in the refrigerator are not added. hi
      1. General failure
        General failure 29 June 2020 16: 52 New
        +1
        Indeed, the truth is full of critics, and as for the case, there is nothing but criticism.

        I have a suspicion that the author, in addition to criticism, has suggestions.
        But, they are so dumb that if they are voiced, the author’s authority will break through any bottom.

        And that is why the author simply whips up weakly structured emotions and implicitly hints "now, if we were in power, everything would be much better." Better "them" - I do not doubt a bit, but what will be better "all" - doubts are very great.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 29 June 2020 16: 57 New
          +4
          Quote: General Failure
          I have a suspicion that the author, in addition to criticism, has suggestions.
          But, they are so dumb that if they are voiced, the author’s authority will break through any bottom.

          It is possible, but first I would have listened to the proposals, however, the proposals are not there, actually. hi
          1. General failure
            General failure 29 June 2020 17: 01 New
            +3
            I have repeatedly tried to constructively discuss with the liberal-minded, and in the end it always turned out that they want to make peace with the West at any price.
            That is, Gorbachevism version 2.0
            And since no one has been buying such nonsense for a long time, they encrypt their Wishlist more cleanly than seasoned underground workers.
          2. AUL
            AUL 29 June 2020 20: 21 New
            -4
            Quote: Tank Hard
            It is possible, but first I would have listened to the proposals, however, the proposals are not there, actually.

            Have you completely read the article? Author's suggestion - THINK!
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 29 June 2020 21: 08 New
              +3
              Quote: AUL
              Have you completely read the article? Author's suggestion - THINK!

              I try to read Skomorokhov, writes interestingly, agrees with something. But the proposal is to THINK, a somewhat vague wording, I want more specifics. request
          3. savage1976
            savage1976 30 June 2020 02: 11 New
            +2
            And they will not be, rather there will be a warning to you about not respecting the author laughing
  • Junior Warrant Officer
    Junior Warrant Officer 29 June 2020 15: 45 New
    -2
    At one time, there were those who kissed Brezhnev in a hickey, then they threw themselves at him with kakahami.
    The current generation of ratatouille for twisting the counter, after some time, will display tattoos on their chest in the form of portraits of the head of state. They will begin to rename their daughters, giving them something more feminine in return for the name of Vova, and most importantly, no one will admit to participating in a weekly quasi-vote
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 29 June 2020 16: 52 New
      -1
      Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
      At one time, there were those who kissed Brezhnev in a hickey, then they threw themselves at him with kakahami.

      The whole history of the state and not only of Russia. request
    2. forpost
      forpost 29 June 2020 20: 29 New
      +4
      "rename your daughters, giving them the name Vova instead" - well, fantasies laughing
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 29 June 2020 15: 50 New
    +3
    A dream that they incompetently lost in 1991 and 1993. But all this time longed for a return.
    But no matter how much they want it, the past cannot be returned early, as well as a bottle of vodka for 2 rubles. 87 kopecks, and travel by tram for 4 kopecks.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 29 June 2020 16: 33 New
      +1
      In Minsk, a tram ride cost 3 kopecks. He was green.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 June 2020 17: 44 New
        +3
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        In Minsk, a tram ride cost 3 kopecks.

        In the 70s, we made a tram trolleybus fleet and a ticket for 4 kopecks, and the bus, like everywhere else, 5 kopecks. and 5 rubles a monthly pass for all types of transport. Yes, it was a minuscule by comparison, as it is now. Although we have been transporting for free for 3 years in the city, even in the train the district of the city is deducted.
    2. alone
      alone 29 June 2020 16: 52 New
      +7
      Quote: tihonmarine
      A dream that they incompetently lost in 1991 and 1993. But all this time longed for a return.
      But no matter how much they want it, the past cannot be returned early, as well as a bottle of vodka for 2 rubles. 87 kopecks, and travel by tram for 4 kopecks.

      This trolleybus was for 4 kopecks. .a for 3 kop.tramvay.on we had red
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 29 June 2020 18: 11 New
        0
        Quote: lonely
        Quote: tihonmarine
        A dream that they incompetently lost in 1991 and 1993. But all this time longed for a return.
        But no matter how much they want it, the past cannot be returned early, as well as a bottle of vodka for 2 rubles. 87 kopecks, and travel by tram for 4 kopecks.

        This trolleybus was for 4 kopecks. .a for 3 kop.tramvay.on we had red

        And then, after a wide propaganda campaign, "at the request of the workers", a "single patch" (metro, bus, trolleybus, tram) was introduced in Moscow. laughing
        Although I was small, I remember.
  • Pravodel
    Pravodel 29 June 2020 15: 53 New
    +2
    And what? ... A lot of words, a lot of emotions, but the result is where, or is it that ".. I want to congratulate all our supporters of the Great Constitutional Breakthrough, the Winners of the liberals and homosexuals and all that."
    Well, congratulations, congratulations. Now everyone needs to unite in a hot kiss and forget about who they are: liberals or pederasts ... Only now, as if this would not lose orientation ...
    He combed everyone, taught everyone, made him think and go to vote or not to vote. Now all that remains is to erect a monument, best of gold or platinum, to rally the descendants and to retaliate the ancestors who did not bother to put a little mind into such a smart and rich head into which such wise and enlightening thoughts come. And do not forget to include the name in the tablets of history, so that everyone can be convinced of the greatness of the thoughts that are offered to us, poor, sir and wretched. And best of all, to declare the author for the Nobel Prize, so that certainly no one would confuse him with a borosopisator or a journalist ...
    I end here, and also, by the way, congratulations to all. Hurray !!! ... We will come to the victory of everything over everything !!!! ...
  • ANB
    ANB 29 June 2020 15: 56 New
    +2
    I would like to draw attention to inaccuracies in the article.
    Make voterather than vote According. And they demand to send a photo of the site, not a newsletter.
    We are not returning to the USSR.
    Masks already sell for 10 rubles, not 30.
    Choice and under the new constitution do not deprive anyone. Like - vote for Grudinin, Bulk or Sobchak.
    My wife voted for Sobchak, and since 1990 I have traditionally voted for Zhirinovsky.
    And what a strange hype is about the amendments. I do not see in them either particularly harmful or particularly useful.
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 29 June 2020 16: 33 New
      -2
      Make you vote, not vote For. And they demand to send a photo of the site, not a newsletter. We are not returning to the USSR.

      Finally, a sound voice. And then listen to Skomorokhov, so we have only two options, either stay at home or go and vote for amendments.

      And what a strange hype is about the amendments. I do not see in them either particularly harmful or particularly useful.

      And this is true. The stability of power does not depend on any amendments to the Constitution, but on the satiety of the population. In February 1917, the people were driven out not by Guchkov, but by Famine.

      If oil lasts at the current level for another 3 years, then we will gobble up the entire NWF.
      And then the people will accept the New Constitution of the New Republic.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 29 June 2020 17: 10 New
        -4
        In February 1917, the people were driven out into the street by the famine artificially caused by the Guchkovs. Food was in abundance, but the trains with him were delayed on the way to Petrograd.
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 29 June 2020 17: 39 New
          -1
          In February 1917, the people were driven out into the street by the famine artificially caused by the Guchkovs.

          It doesn’t matter whether it is artificial or not, it is important that it is HUNGER.
          Guchkov would not have brought people to the streets with any amended Guchkov leaflets.
    2. alone
      alone 29 June 2020 17: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: ANB
      Make you vote

      Is it legal to force someone to vote?
      Quote: ANB
      not vote for

      And they do not need a voice, but a passport number and signature ..
      Quote: ANB
      I do not see in them either particularly harmful or particularly useful.

      But then what is their meaning? hi
      1. ANB
        ANB 29 June 2020 18: 07 New
        +1
        .
        But then what is their meaning? hi

        And on the weekend of July 1. :)
        At my job announced.
        I’m too lazy to vote. If I get, I will vote for, and my wife against.
  • Varyag71
    Varyag71 29 June 2020 16: 10 New
    +7
    I think that July 1 will be done a little later on a festive day.
    1. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 29 June 2020 16: 35 New
      -7
      Not excluded. And why does it upset you so much that you cannot eat already?
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 29 June 2020 16: 11 New
    -4
    We are happy people, because on the example of articles by one author we can personally see the stages of accepting the inevitability of an event or a fait accompli by a person.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 29 June 2020 16: 12 New
    +8
    Said 9 years ago, but what has changed?

    1. New Year day
      New Year day 29 June 2020 23: 40 New
      +3
      Quote: Gardamir
      Said 9 years ago, but what has changed?

      and what will change if the same on the stage?
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 29 June 2020 16: 21 New
    +4
    Thinking is not necessary at all. There are specially selected people for this. You need to think exclusively about the beautiful.
    How was the classic
    - Himmeldonnerwetter! [Damn it! (German)] - one of the commission members shouted, rattling his saber. - He doesn’t think about anything at all! Why don’t you, the Siamese elephant, think?
    - I dare to report, because in military service this is not supposed to. When I served in the XNUMXst Regiment a few years ago, our captain always told us: "A soldier should not think for him, his superiors think for him. As soon as a soldier begins to think, this is no longer a soldier, but, sewn in rubbish, a hat. Reflections never do not bring ... "
  • Charik
    Charik 29 June 2020 16: 23 New
    0
    https://yandex.ru/video/preview?filmId=802964764403874318&text=симпсоны%20ссср%202.0&path=wizard&parent-reqid=1593436967610234-1174756434671859889300311-production-app-host-sas-web-yp-166&redircnt=1593436976.1
  • codetalker
    codetalker 29 June 2020 16: 25 New
    +5
    This "creation" is saturated with hatred of the Russian people. Directly obvious.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 29 June 2020 16: 26 New
    +7
    The rally with the jumps to the speech “Whoever doesn’t ride is a liberal” I personally really liked the idea.
    ....Me too... laughing Already in many forums they are jumping for such a talk. About the elections ... I remember the recent mayoral elections in our county town. 6 candidates! 6, Karl! Five from EP, one non-partisan. Made as one from EP, the rest are self-righteous ... Naturally, the one who needs a leg won.
    . Here is the same thing with the heads of the townsfolk must be done. Why choose? Putin or Grudinin? Putin or Navalny? It's unhealthy.
    .... Where is the choice? Of the two evils, choose the lesser? .. Then they think who is worse. And in conclusion. Yesterday, the rebel who sold the Motherland for beautiful packaging, voted for the fact that you go to the vote and vote "for", otherwise you will lose, today you vote : go and vote "no" or you will lose. And actually for what? For all the same, choose the lesser of two evils? Those. Are you both trying to ensure the turnout at the polling stations and thereby re-ensure the legitimacy of the existing government? The negatives about which you write were even before the vote, they will remain as the vote did not take place. This is a vote, as the completion of the process that has been going on for the last 20 years. 5% barrier, elimination of a candidate against everyone, no turnout limits. I already have nothing to lose, the first time I lost when I voted for the preservation of the USSR, the second time when I voted against the existing Constitution (that's why I don't go to vote, if I voted against, it's stupid to go to vote for or against what I voted against) and the third time, when he voted for Lebed, and he gave not only my vote to Yeltsin. Stop gambling with the state, which has four aces in its sleeve.
  • Alt 22
    Alt 22 29 June 2020 16: 29 New
    0
    It is a pity that Russia gobbled up Russia ...
  • Andrey Grad
    Andrey Grad 29 June 2020 16: 30 New
    +5
    Judging by the simple and sometimes primitive text of the author, the article is designed for the younger generation. Frightening by the Soviet Union, freedom of choice, change of power and all the standard cliches according to the training manual.
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 29 June 2020 17: 27 New
      +2
      Judging by the simple and sometimes primitive text of the author, the article is designed for the younger generation.

      If so, then a shot past.
      The younger generation does not stick out on this forum of mastodons.
      It is active in practicing conspiratorial skills in Navalny’s team.
      1. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 1 July 2020 15: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Arzt
        The younger generation does not stick out on this forum of mastodons.
        It is active in practicing conspiratorial skills in Navalny’s team.

        But now it was a shame ... I'm 26 (I’ll be 27 by the end of the summer, good). Is sand already pouring out of me? Nah, there are among us those who go around this rotten party for a kilometer, and we are decent. Only even my generation, not to mention the younger ones, for the most part are single-handed individuals, poorly able to unite. Therefore, it seems that all the youth (and this, rather, is already a crowd with all the consequences) - for Navalny.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 29 June 2020 23: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Grad
      Judging by the simple and sometimes primitive text of the author, the article is designed for the younger generation. Frightening by the Soviet Union, freedom of choice, change of power and all the standard cliches according to the training manual.

      youth are smarter than you think.

      And if the youth does not see a way out, then 3 options: alcohol-drugs, foreign countries, revolutionaries
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 29 June 2020 16: 34 New
    10
    For the third week I have been watching the "battle of the titans", Skomorokhov and Staver, and you know, comrades, the thought begins to creep in: is this not a "agreement"?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 29 June 2020 16: 58 New
      +5
      I am tormented by the same vague doubts. laughing
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 29 June 2020 17: 10 New
        +6
        My respect, Aleksey!
        I was confused by one nuance. In this article, Roman allowed himself a "blow below the belt", that is, a link, unflatteringly commented on, to Alexander's material ... Knowing the style of Skomorokhov's work, I begin to think about the "split" of the creative tandem.
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 29 June 2020 17: 24 New
          +4
          Yeah ... laughing K. Marx and F. Engels didn’t have this. laughing
          I think that joint articles will appear soon. "And we have already made up. Because joint work, it is for my benefit. It unites." (C) laughing
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 29 June 2020 17: 32 New
            +2
            In the role of Matroskin - Smirnov?
            1. parusnik
              parusnik 29 June 2020 17: 39 New
              +2
              They will use it in turn: Staver-Smirnov, Sirnov-Skomorokhov. But let's stop the discussion of the moderators. The authorities do not discuss it. They vote for it. laughing
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 29 June 2020 17: 54 New
                +3
                I agree. We already said a couple of bans, everyone! laughing
                1. parusnik
                  parusnik 29 June 2020 18: 00 New
                  +3
                  We have minuses already thrown. A type of warning shot when escaping. laughing
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 29 June 2020 18: 07 New
                    +4
                    Unreasoned minuscule - there is evidence of an extremely undeveloped central nervous system, approximately at the level of amoeba.
              2. New Year day
                New Year day 29 June 2020 23: 35 New
                +2
                Quote: parusnik
                They will use it in turn: Staver-Smirnov, Sirnov-Skomorokhov

                this is called a balance of power or pluralism of opinions!
  • Tagan
    Tagan 29 June 2020 16: 40 New
    -6
    Looks like sausages liberoids - like evil spirits from holy water! Cool.)))
    "The meeting with jumping to the chant" Who does not jump is a liberal "I personally liked the idea very much."
    The author, in my opinion, mixed everything up. Himself vomitsya, like that fly on the glass. And so and so. One article, second, third, etc. ..))) is directly suspicious ...
  • ZAV69
    ZAV69 29 June 2020 16: 46 New
    -10
    Author: suitcase-airport-foreign.
    He will no longer have life. So drowned against the corrections that the bloody boys are already at the door
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 29 June 2020 23: 32 New
      -1
      Quote: ZAV69
      Author: suitcase-airport-foreign.

      why not to you? Something in 6-7 months? when the return goes
      1. ZAV69
        ZAV69 30 June 2020 00: 43 New
        +2
        Why did I forget there? I voted for the amendments
  • Ham
    Ham 29 June 2020 16: 54 New
    -7
    bombarded by propagandons ...
    forget about the Soviet Union! he died and the corpse has already turned to dust ... this happens once in history - the state of the victorious proletariat ...
    of course Russia will restore its traditional spheres of influence, but it will not be the USSR ... what will happen? wait and see ... the basis is already emerging - the confederation of russia, belarus (don’t believe that daddy is broadcasting to the public!) and kazakhstan ... then the rest will catch up;) today the main task is to knock out americos (not Europeans!) from ukraine, Georgia, the Baltic states ... they dug in there on purpose to "contain Russia" ... and the Maidan in Kiev in 2014 was muddied just to disrupt the entry of Ukraine into the vehicle ...
    all these grandiose transformations must be led by one leader! do not change horses do not cross!
    examples from history: Peter the Great (remember the time of troubles and the leapfrog of rulers), Lenin (again, turmoil and all sorts of "supreme rulers"), Stalin ...
    in the West, a classic example is Franklin Roosevelt ...
    after the adoption of the amendments, liberals and Westerners in Russia are sharply worsening (this is why the propagandists are raging!) ... I hope they will call their "37th year")))
    emphasized emphasis on "traditional values", rejection of lgbt obscurantism - this is what should draw a civilizational line between Russia and the West ... it will be tough of communism, there will be a lot of people whose dominance of transgender people and all sorts of other sexual perverts has already pretty much done away with ;)
    and those who blather about "lack of choice" - remember what choice you had in the 90s ??? What choice do people now have in "democratic ukraine"? the union was also ruined by fairy tales about "choice" ... and were left with a bare nose but with a mythical "choice";)
    so WOW ISCHO! - banderlogs and watch the new EMPIRE enter the world stage!
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 29 June 2020 19: 48 New
      -4
      An empire with a bare fifth point is not an empire, Ham.
      1. Ham
        Ham 29 June 2020 20: 13 New
        +1
        Please explain what does "bare fifth point" mean? what exactly do you mean?
        and notice - bye! not yet an empire ... an empire is just born ... about the same USSR in the 30s they wrote that he was a colossus with feet of clay ...
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 30 June 2020 09: 51 New
          -3
          The analogue is the fifth corner. This is clear?
          The USSR in the 30s developed at a frantic pace, the Russian Federation slowly, but with the acceleration of collapse.
          1. Ham
            Ham 30 June 2020 10: 11 New
            +3
            not clear ... please explain? here in the 90s it was just that so slowly but with acceleration they were falling apart ...
            and now what are your conclusions based on? clarify please...
            you do not explain anything propagandists ... never! you can only litter with abstract words about "fifth points" and "fifth corners" ... well, and avatars with stalin
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 30 June 2020 10: 17 New
              -3
              I will answer, John. In the 90s, they didn’t basically break up, but captured.
              But since the 2000s, everyone began to bankrupt and ruin exactly what they are doing now.
              And stick your advice, please, I think that now you’ll understand where. This is none of your business.
              1. Ham
                Ham 30 June 2020 10: 26 New
                +3
                please explain about "razvalivayut" ... the country is falling apart for you?
                no need to joke about "bankrupt and wreck" ... in the 90s they wrecked and bankrupted by orders of magnitude more ... but nothing was created at the same time
                I didn't give you any advice! you litter with words here and you cannot explain for them by chattering about "fifth corners" ...
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral 30 June 2020 10: 38 New
                  -3
                  I do not teach you to give lectures. Do not be lazy, look, do a comparative analysis on the veracity of the facts:

                  And about now - they are trying to kill the Amur shipyard. They kill ZAO Grudinin.
                  1. Ham
                    Ham 30 June 2020 10: 52 New
                    +2
                    and little list of new enterprises lay out?
                    in the days of the ussr there were hundreds of thousands of enterprises and after the collapse of a single economic space, many of them simply became unnecessary! in the 21st century you don’t need so many monstrous factories!
                    there is a whole "rusty belt" of abandoned industrial centers in the USA and no one is screaming about "destroying the country" ...
                    You will post a list of new factories and modernized old ones!
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                      1. Ham
                        Ham 30 June 2020 11: 50 New
                        0
                        propaganda as it is ... our country does not need so many factories in the 21st century! it was all designed for the economy of the ussr and it has long been gone! not profitable close ...
                      2. NordUral
                        NordUral 30 June 2020 11: 53 New
                        0
                        I am a techie. And I know that the country needs factories, machine tools, cars, etc. Need your own computers, supercomputers, etc. And much more is needed.
                      3. Ham
                        Ham 30 June 2020 11: 54 New
                        0
                        Well, open tyrnet - techie and see what is being done in this direction)))
                        Why are you posting propaganda pictures for 2005 here?
                      4. NordUral
                        NordUral 30 June 2020 11: 55 New
                        0
                        Rude when there is no argument, ham.
                      5. Ham
                        Ham 30 June 2020 12: 08 New
                        0
                        where is rudeness?) open the Internet words and look do you consider boorish?))) anyone can dial and make sure!
                        rather than manipulate pictures and tablets
                      6. NordUral
                        NordUral 30 June 2020 12: 10 New
                        -1
                        Poke strangers and hang tags.
  • Ham
    Ham 30 June 2020 08: 00 New
    0
    which should be proved!
    except for the minuses and fumbling about the "bare fifth point" propagandons with avatars of Stalin can object nothing in essence))))
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 30 June 2020 09: 54 New
      -1
      Ham! I rarely set cons, so far I certainly have not offended you. But in fact - it is either inaccessible to you, or you do not want to see it.
      1. Ham
        Ham 30 June 2020 10: 44 New
        -1
        Well, that is, you can’t explain))) I never doubted;)
        Well, if you write, you are working hard to explain your point of view as it should be - with numbers and facts ... and then there are so many angry comments and how they ask to explain - just the windows about "not available to you" ... here for you it is "available" so explain it in an accessible language without "fifth corners" ...
        open the eyes of the dark people, so to speak!)))
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 30 June 2020 11: 13 New
          0
          I can answer the same. Justify your accusations.
          You are provided with information, look, accept or reject, and you are all that do not give you facts. You lie after all.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 29 June 2020 17: 00 New
    0
    Another "Putin must leave" from the creators of "Yanukovych must leave," "Assad must leave," "Gaddafi must leave," "Hussein must leave." laughing
    Boring ...
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 29 June 2020 19: 46 New
      +1
      He may not leave. In this case, only it is time to start working for the people and the country, and not for accomplices in robbing and squandering the country.
  • BAI
    BAI 29 June 2020 17: 03 New
    +7
    Elections of mayors-governors also need to be canceled

    And here humor is inappropriate. It is necessary to elect any deputies. And administrative officials should be appointed. Governance of a region (city) is too serious a matter to let it go. And the boss here can only be the one who is trusted by the superior boss, i.e. - the president for the heads of the regions, the head of the region - appoints the subordinates. And it is right. So that no parade of sovereignty with the words "The people chose me" would come close. How can the president (governor) manage the state (region) if the executors are not appointed by him (and they are not responsible to him), but someone chooses them? We already know perfectly well that all kinds of criminals were legally elected for money. It is necessary to correctly build not only the vertical, but also the horizontal of power.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 29 June 2020 17: 41 New
      +6
      And we will come to this. The ideas of democracy have already outlived themselves.
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 29 June 2020 17: 43 New
      -1
      Quote: BAI
      The leadership of the region (city) is too serious a matter to let it drift. And the boss here can only be the one whom the superior boss trusts, i.e. - the president for the heads of regions, the head of the region - appoints subordinates. And it is right.

      Maybe VVP finally read Niccolo Machiavelli's treatise "The Sovereign"? This would be to the benefit of the Russian state. hi
    3. AUL
      AUL 29 June 2020 20: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: BAI
      We already know perfectly well that for all kinds of money crime was completely legally elected.

      And it can also be legally appointed. True, a little more expensive ...
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 29 June 2020 17: 11 New
    +6
    Oh well them in .... All of these (popular vote) farce in our country. First, they destroy the cohesion of society 24/7, atomize the masses, and then one day of ostentatious unity. Phew. People bring up not unity in the achievement of one idea, but a high-quality individual consumer of a hamster consumer. Well, well, as they say in the middle and not very volts in the next 20-30 years.
  • Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 29 June 2020 17: 11 New
    -5
    Russia has always been a princedom / kingdom / empire / union / state of one person, the stronger the person, the stronger state education is a historical fact, our history and we can’t get away from it anywhere, we need such a mentality and we need a strong father-king and when No, there is confusion, revolution, perestroika! I understand that many do not like Putin, but without him, unfortunately, there is no way if we do not want the new 90s!
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 29 June 2020 19: 42 New
      +1
      I understand that many do not like Putin, but without him, unfortunately, there is no way if we do not want the new 90s!
      Old and creaky barrel organ.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 29 June 2020 17: 41 New
    +3
    Elections, elections, all candidates .... not a reserve, so we believe many.
    Well, you need to create your own, for us!
    And everything else is an empty chatter .... endless.
  • BAI
    BAI 29 June 2020 18: 03 New
    -3
    By the way, I don’t understand - why is the author indignant? After all, this is correct - when the head of state is in power for as long as possible (especially in the current conditions in Russia). Here Putin sits for 20 years in power. One and the same team that stole, themselves, children, grandchildren. And now she took up charity and other useful things. Putin will leave, another team will come. And again he will begin to steal himself, children, grandchildren. And after 12 years in a new way. And so without end (or rather there is an end - when everything is stolen). So no Russia is enough. Therefore, the team of thieves (and there will not be others in Russia, there will be no honest people in power do not get along by definition) should not change as long as possible. This is the lesser of evils.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 29 June 2020 19: 41 New
      0
      Putin will leave, another team will come. And again he will begin to steal himself, children, grandchildren.
      This is not a fact!
    2. Sergey Zhikharev
      Sergey Zhikharev 29 June 2020 20: 49 New
      0
      In this case, the best system is the monarchy. The ruler is interested in the well-being of his country, because he passes it by inheritance not to the receiver, but to his offspring. And he (the monarch) does not need to steal - he has everything, this is his lifelong privileges. And elections do not need to be held - immediately savings. But corruption in the Empire (in the Russian, in the Chinese, in the Roman Empire) for some reason has not disappeared.
      1. BAI
        BAI 30 June 2020 11: 30 New
        +1
        Absolutely right. Any mentally normal king is interested in leaving the descendants of a strong, prosperous state. Another thing is that birth in a royal family does not automatically mean having a great mind and mental health. And these are serious problems for both the state and the population.
    3. Temnukhin Anton
      Temnukhin Anton 29 June 2020 22: 36 New
      +3
      Theoretically, yes ... It sounds like it is beautiful ... But in practice - they do not steal. Capital can only expand. A stop for him is tantamount to death. So the giant vacuum cleaner will in any case be turned on fully.
    4. New Year day
      New Year day 29 June 2020 23: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: BAI
      Putin will leave, another team will come. And again he will begin to steal himself, children, grandchildren. And after 12 years in a new way.

      strange somehow it turns out request Merkel is also stealing?
      But ex-President of Israel Moshe Katsav who delighted Putin received 7 years in prison, though for rape and sexual harassment.
      In Brazil, the court threatens two former presidents of the country: Luis Inácio Lula da Silva and Dilma Rousseff for corruption. And they’ll sit down!
      In Argentina, the trial of former president Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner (2007-2015) is ongoing. She is accused of conspiracy to steal budget funds, involvement in fraud at the Central Bank of Argentina, illegal enrichment and corruption.
      An investigation is underway in South Korea against former Republic President Park Geun-hye (2013-2017). Last December, she, like her Brazilian counterpart Rusef, was impeached, and this decision finally entered into force on March 10, 2017. The thing is. that they will be imprisoned. After all, only here you can steal and receive government awards and positions request

      1. BAI
        BAI 30 June 2020 11: 22 New
        +1
        I clearly wrote:
        especially in the current environment in Russia

        In other countries, this is not possible. There is the primacy of the law. And we have the primacy of breaking the law. The fact that in Russia is the norm, in other countries is impossible.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 30 June 2020 19: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: BAI
          In other countries, this is not possible. There is the primacy of the law. And we have the primacy of breaking the law. The fact that in Russia is the norm, in other countries is impossible

          So all the same, the matter is in us;
        2. brat07
          brat07 5 July 2020 00: 05 New
          0
          Quote: BAI
          I clearly wrote:
          especially in the current environment in Russia

          In other countries, this is not possible. There is the primacy of the law. And we have the primacy of breaking the law. The fact that in Russia is the norm, in other countries is impossible.

          Mentality?
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 2 July 2020 00: 19 New
        0
        Christina Kirchner has recently been elected Vice President. And the president is her former prime minister. Lulu da Silva was planted, Rusef is under investigation, Temar is either under investigation, or is planted. I predict a triumphant return to power in Brazil or Lulu da Silva, or Dilma Rousseff. Right Bolsonaro is catastrophically losing popularity.
    5. SVD68
      SVD68 30 June 2020 08: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: BAI
      One and the same team that stole, themselves, children, grandchildren. And now she took up charity and other useful things. Putin will leave, another team will come. And again he will begin to steal himself, children, grandchildren. And after 12 years in a new way. AND

      These are erroneous reasoning, diverging from reality. The tyranny model (a technical term without negative emotional connotation), as exemplified by Pisistratus, was still analyzed by Aristotle. First, the tyrant fights against the oligarchy. This is logical, because power is in this oligarchy and in order to take it you need to take it from the oligarchs. A tyrant can rely on this struggle only on a naro who hates the oligarchs who oppress them. To do this, the tyrant shares with the people part of the selected from the oligarchs.
      But the power is completely seized. There are no hostile oligarchs left. The tyrant does not want to take away his own, who have become new oligarchs. There is nothing more to share with the people. Yes and no reason. The second phase of tyranny begins. And if the first was against the oligarchy and therefore for the people, then the second phase is already against the people.
      Hence the conclusion of the team, as you call thieves after the first phase should change.
  • Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 29 June 2020 18: 14 New
    +3
    About "send a photo of the site by vatsap" you have enough.
    Although people went or didn’t track, this is true. We made a time schedule so that people did not crowd. At the entrance they handed out who did not have masks, gloves and pens. The latter was not something that bothered, but ... in the midst of quarantine, we generally did not have masks in pharmacies, neither for money, nor for free, in any way. And here you are! And they measured the temperature, and all thirty-three pleasures!
    Lists were thrown over the Internet to work there, essno. They reported that everything was openwork, but on the website, checkmarks were lit against the names of people. Those who walked are green, those who are not are red. And no reports on vatsap from citizens.
    But no one bothered to vote "against".
  • Freeman
    Freeman 29 June 2020 18: 41 New
    +3
    Quote: Boris55
    Quote: Gardamir
    Doesn’t it seem strange to you that voting takes a week? And let us also hold elections by week.

    I am for. Is it very convenient, or did you miss the queues? laughing

    Quote: codetalker
    By the way, it’s very convenient. It would be necessary to extend to other elections.

    The authorities heard you, O my faithful people.
    Matvienko suggested thinking about expanding the practice of voting within a few days
    ST. PETERSBURG, June 29. / TASS /. Chairman of the Federation Council Valentina Matvienko believes that the decision to hold a vote on the constitution for several days has fully justified itself, and suggested thinking about expanding this practice. She announced this on Monday to journalists after a vote on amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation in the center of St. Petersburg.

    Read more: https://tass.ru/politika/8840225


    PS: fellow I, too, "FOR!", Only vote remotely and make all these days a weekend.
    - "But preferably - in July, And preferably - in the Crimea."(c)
    wassat laughing
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 29 June 2020 19: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Freeman
      Matvienko suggested thinking about expanding the practice of voting within a few days

      I am sure that Matvienko is one of the first candidates for a senatorial life.
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 29 June 2020 18: 41 New
    +3
    Strange, well, the young people don’t understand, but those who still graduated from Soviet universities should understand that now the differences between the comprador bourgeoisie and the growing national bourgeoisie have entered a decisive stage. And these amendments consolidate the interests of the national bourgeoisie. What will be next to see. And about GDP and further rule, this is all one of the propaganda tricks. You can’t deceive the Lord, you won’t move old age and still have to leave. And at 90 years old, only representatives of the Bohemian family can marry us, and that people are watching and will not understand this nonsense.
    1. depressant
      depressant 29 June 2020 23: 10 New
      +2
      Colleague tank64rus, I think your comment about the comprador bourgeoisie and the grown national one is very valuable. This is a deep look at what is happening, unexpected for me, thank you! The comprador bourgeoisie is well known. We also know her offspring. The conflict between fathers and children in this case is unlikely to take place, children are heirs. Some of them are abroad forever, and those who have been assigned to important government positions in Russia hardly have views different from those of their fathers. So you will have to look for a nationally oriented "growth", separate from the "old families", - you asked a problem)) But if such a "growth" exists, a conflict between comprador families and a nationally oriented change is inevitable. Whose side is Putin on?
  • exo
    exo 29 June 2020 19: 12 New
    +5
    I agree with the author. Russia incorporates the worst features of all systems. And is proud of the victories gained by past generations. There are no new ones and is not expected.
  • DVR
    DVR 29 June 2020 19: 33 New
    +2
    So much powerlessness and pain in the article. Where did all these obscure thoughts come from about canceling the election? On the contrary, people were given the opportunity to vote, make a choice. Then, in the presidential election, there will be an opportunity. As they say, it will be so that moaning something, inventing nonsense.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 29 June 2020 23: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: DVR
      On the contrary, people were given the opportunity to vote, make a choice

      Do you think this is an election? In such circumstances, all ballots of Russia and even neighboring countries can be thrown into the ballot box. laughing

      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 30 June 2020 09: 18 New
        0
        Why not? very good, in the fresh air, checked and then walk around the park
      2. forester1971
        forester1971 30 June 2020 11: 18 New
        +1
        Question: where, when, by whom and in which country were these photos taken? Or maybe it's just a staging? Anyone can take hundreds of such photos. Sometimes photos are posted on the website as evidence, where the symbols of Ukraine are on the ballot boxes, and the signature says that this is Russia.
  • NordUral
    NordUral 29 June 2020 19: 38 New
    +6
    And I’m talking about a completely different Soviet system. A system of choice without a choice.

    Not quite so in the USSR. The candidate was the only one who passed through a sieve of the strictest selection (though at the end of the Union they ruined it (it didn’t go wrong, I note). And we, voting, knew that we would not elect a scum or a former prisoner.
  • begemot20091
    begemot20091 29 June 2020 19: 47 New
    -6
    Quote: neri73-r
    Now that it has become completely clear that the people are not deciding anything .. in fact .. there’s nothing to hope for

    take off your pants and show your proletarian ass from the frontal place to the Kremlin towers. vote against, what kind of x ... are you pulled to the ballot box? Yes, for me at least a hundred times, let the deadlines be reset. Once again, I will vote "for" more than one .... the liberal never thought about the supreme power in this country. Neither me nor my children, nor my grandchildren and their friends need Yavlinsky, nasralnye and other degenerates from the gang of liberals.
  • Plastmaster
    Plastmaster 29 June 2020 19: 54 New
    -1
    Elegantly written .... Direct vote for, against.
  • Gato
    Gato 29 June 2020 20: 06 New
    0
    I want to congratulate all our supporters of the Great Constitutional Breakthrough, the Winners of liberals and pederasts and all that.

    SW author! You already specify to whom congratulations belong - to those who won these two indicated categories or these two categories who are Winners? belay
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 1 July 2020 15: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Gato
      SW author! You already specify to whom congratulations belong - to those who won these two indicated categories or these two categories who are Winners?

      I am not an author, but I’ll clarify. Congratulations to the Winners. And the winners are heterosexuals who won
      Quote: Gato
      these two categories indicated
  • Imperial Technocrat
    Imperial Technocrat 29 June 2020 20: 43 New
    0
    No more "alliances" with "sisters". Only a unitary left-conservative unitary socialist empire with Russianness at the heart of ideology (regardless of skin color and eye shape)
  • flicker
    flicker 29 June 2020 20: 44 New
    +1
    about a completely different Soviet system. A system of choice without a choice.
    Another thing, Ukraine!
    She has outlived everything Soviet from herself, including "choice without choice."
    Kravchuk - succeeded Kuchma, Kuchma - succeeded Yushchenko, the latter - Yanukovych, Yanukovych - Poroshenko, but Poroshenko - was replaced by a clown.
    Now fun.
    And most importantly - there was a choice with a choice!
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 29 June 2020 21: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: flicker
      Kravchuk - succeeded Kuchma, Kuchma - succeeded Yushchenko, the latter - Yanukovych, Yanukovych - Poroshenko, but Poroshenko - was replaced by a clown.

      The main thing is that the people do not live better. Confused by these "changers". And it was one of the most economically successful republics of the USSR. request
  • Temnukhin Anton
    Temnukhin Anton 29 June 2020 22: 33 New
    0
    It would be funny if it were not so sad ...
  • Temnukhin Anton
    Temnukhin Anton 29 June 2020 22: 40 New
    0
    Quote: Ru_Na
    Russia has always been a princedom / kingdom / empire / union / state of one person, the stronger the person, the stronger government education is a historical fact, our history and we can’t get anywhere from this


    The role of personality in history is highly controversial. Yes, a person can significantly affect the world around him, but still this is rather an exception. "The retinue makes the king." Or any ruler is a representative of the ruling class. The king or emperor is the representative of the feudal lords, the secretary general is the representative of the workers' party, the president is the representative of the bourgeoisie. And any leader who finds himself at the top will first of all care about the interests of "his own", those who support him and / or who put him there. So all the talk that "Russia always needs a tsar father" is stupid idealism.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 29 June 2020 23: 06 New
    -5
    Now the author offers to think (yes, it is difficult) on what further action after the adoption of the new Constitution we will have to do.

    just wait. This is a Pyrrhic victory and absolutely does not mean anything for several reasons:
    1. man is old and sick and physically after the New Year he will only be remembered
    2. the system has already gone into the distance, as if cheeks were not inflated
    3. the country is drawn into a political and economic crisis. About 6 billion bucks were brought into the country in cash. Their damned bucks are always imported on the eve of the ruble’s depreciation, because it’s better to change the ruble on greenbacks and a lot of little things
  • New Year day
    New Year day 29 June 2020 23: 09 New
    -3
    The Soviet Union is back! Question in what form

    But is it returned? It's just about preserving the status quo of today's government
  • Temnukhin Anton
    Temnukhin Anton 29 June 2020 23: 11 New
    +2
    Quote: Silvestr
    But is it returned? It's just about preserving the status quo of today's government


    I bet this entire article is a complete irony :)
  • Temnukhin Anton
    Temnukhin Anton 29 June 2020 23: 15 New
    0
    Quote: begemot20091
    more than one .... liberalist never thought of the supreme power in this country. neither I, my children, nor my grandchildren and their friends need Yavlinsky, oral and other degenerates from a gang of liberalists.


    How interesting ... By the way, you can look at one of the previous articles where the author recalls that the acting characters in our power (horror) are also liberals :) including the guarantor of the constitution himself :) as a famous character says: "This is a twist! ":)