“Further acceleration is technically impossible”: India will not receive the S-400 air defense missile systems ahead of schedule

The Indian press, citing the country's Ministry of Defense, writes that a delegation of the military department, who recently visited Moscow, spoke about the results of negotiations with Russian colleagues. Recall that the Indian delegation in Moscow was led by Minister of Defense Rajnat Singh. He was met by Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu and Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov. The Indian side requested Russia to accelerate the pace of deliveries of previously contracted weapons, as well as expand activities on other possible deliveries.

A major Indian edition of The Hindu today comes out with material from columnist Dinakar Peri, which points to the following point:

Russia agreed in a short time to satisfy some urgent defense requirements that India was striving for. In particular, we are talking about the implementation of the transaction on AK-203 assault rifles and Ka-226T helicopters.

India previously ordered from Russia more than 750 thousand AK-203 assault rifles, of which about 670 thousand will be assembled at an Indian plant under a Russian license. India also ordered 200 of the mentioned helicopters, of which 60 will be imported from Russia, and the rest will be assembled in India. It is reported that part of the Ka-226T will be delivered earlier than agreed earlier.

But to get the S-400 SAMs earlier than the terms specified in the contract for India will not work.

From Dinakar Peri Material:

“Further acceleration is technically impossible,” a diplomatic source said.

The first deliveries, as noted, to India will take place at the end of 2021, which is prescribed in the contract.

The Indian Ministry of Defense intended to receive the first S-400 Triumph systems a few months earlier, motivating its wishes with difficulties on the border with China. But, as noted, to deliver anti-aircraft missile systems earlier than scheduled does not work.

Comments

[Labrador]

Bargained: expensive - inexpensive, want - reluctant

[Civil]

Elephants could not beat the dragon from the bear. Oh how)

[1976AG]

There is a schedule of supplies of S-400 and it is not reasonable for us to disrupt it. We need these complexes ourselves.

[mdsr]

The Indian Ministry of Defense intended to receive the first S-400 Triumph systems a few months earlier, motivating its wishes with difficulties on the border with China. But, as noted, to deliver anti-aircraft missile systems earlier than scheduled does not work.

In my opinion, this is a political decision. For example, to deliver the same S-400 Turkey ahead of schedule technically as it turned out. Just accelerating the supply of S-400 at the time of the conflict on the border with China would be perceived in China as an unfriendly move.

[1976AG]

Complexes are few to buy, they also need to be mastered. These are not machine guns. In the meantime, they will master them how much time will pass? Does it make sense to rush into supplies?

[avg]

Quote: mdsr

In my opinion, this is a political decision.

Political and very balanced. Undoubtedly, it will be appreciated in China, and I hope that it will play a certain "educational" role in relations with India.

[Samara_63]

Why did they just come to their senses? With their Air Force and Navy you can only lose

[mdsr]

Quote: Samara_63

With their Air Force and Navy you can only lose

In fairness, any country can lose China. To compete with them in the pace of arms supplies is not a realistic task. Their military budget is many times larger than the Indian and Russian. And this despite the fact that the cost of purchasing Chinese weapons is significantly lower. China's military containment will soon become a common task.

[Samara_63]

It depends on what kind of war? If China is the first to deliver a nuclear strike, then everything, they have the entire population concentrated in the coastal provinces, the density is just awful ...

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Our territory will suffer.

[mdsr]

Quote: Samara_63

Watching what kind of war?

Of course, I did not mean a nuclear war.

Quote: Samara_63

If China Be First to Deal Nuclear

You are a strange person. I can also say, what if China is the first to launch a nuclear strike? China is also full of its various missile attack early warning systems. So with impunity to strike a nuclear strike is unlikely to succeed. In Russia, thank God, this also will not work. So in reality, all parties so far are only considering collisions using conventional weapons.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: mdsr

in reality, all parties so far are considering only collisions using conventional weapons.

And in real clashes, as recently at the border, they use the "weapon of the proletariat" - apparently, out of harm's way.

[alexmach]

And in real clashes, as recently at the border, they use the "weapon of the proletariat" - apparently, out of harm's way. request laughing

Well done, by the way. And the steam was released and escalated.

[Samara_63]

Not well, if you can cover a little flight time and do not have time to react

[Charik]

Especially Russia has tied up with China, or not?

[Marconi41]

Quote: mdsr

So in reality, all parties so far are only considering collisions using conventional weapons.

Fighting China with conventional weapons is like death. They just throw us hats, there are a lot of them, and they also have modern weapons.

[KCA]

Does China have its own systems? Where do you get such nonsense? You do not know what Russia is building in China the SPRN, which he had never had before? At the moment, only the Russian Federation and the United States have SPRN, no one else, even in enlightened Europe, has

[Grits]

Quote: Samara_63

It depends on what kind of war? If China is the first to deliver a nuclear strike, then everything, they have the entire population concentrated in the coastal provinces, the density is just awful ...

And how are you going to hit China with long-range strategic ballistic missiles? We don’t have any others. But in China there are medium- and shorter-range missiles. It’s easier for them to beat on our territory than for us. We can only nuclear-powered detachment and artillery special ammunition.

[Samara_63]

I didn’t mean Russia, well, it’s time for Russia to rivet medium-range missiles, but for now, hummingbirds and OTRs can be equipped with a nuclear warhead, a diesel submarine can quietly lurk along the coast

[Alex777]

Remember yourself and tell everyone - we do not need to fight with China.
This is our strategic partner.

[Alf]

Quote: Alex777

This is our strategic partner.

Let's just say, not a partner, but a fellow traveler.

[Alex777]

No worse than others.

[businessv]

Quote: Gritsa

We don’t have any others.

How not? And the tactical Iskander?

[Grits]

Quote: businessv

How not? And the tactical Iskander?

You are inattentive. I wrote about OTR

[businessv]

Quote: Gritsa

You are inattentive. I wrote about OTR

Pancake! I answered about the Operationally Tactical Missile System 9K720 Iskander!

[KCA]

The number of tactical nuclear warheads in Russia is estimated from 12 to 16 thousand, but there is no even approximate official data, START-3 didn’t get into wells, and how many of them are in 152mm caliber for howitzers, and in a tank 125mm, for " Caliber "," Iskander "and other things, well, whoever needs it, he knows

[fiberboard]

With them, it will not work differently. Of all our allies, only Vietnam is capable of something. And the Indians can at least arm themselves, at least not. There will be no sense in them.

[Charik]

there, with the Israeli missiles, all Egyptian T90s were destroyed here with a nuclear strike, all the Chinese were killed, as if a joke student was funny

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: mdsr

Their military budget is many times larger than the Indian and Russian.

Budget, of course, is good. But it is still necessary to master it wisely. Not bags of yuan of the enemy will have to be thrown ... Not cheap copy-paste. And high-quality weapons from scratch will not appear from nothing, if not turret. The S-400 is a prime example. In addition to money, a lot of things are needed.

[Hey]

In fairness, any country can lose China.

It depends on what kind of war? If China is the first to strike a nuclear strike, then all

Our territory will suffer.

The Chinese have an Achilles' heel, their hydropower complexes on the two main rivers, the Yellow River and the Yangtze. If you blow up the upper dams of power plants located in the mountains, then the streams of water in the reservoirs will blow down the hydraulic structures located downstream and so on to the very plain. The volume of water stored in all reservoirs is sufficient to demolish and flood the entire central China, where the main population of the country lives. After that, China will find itself in the "Stone Age" with a population comparable to that of many neighboring countries, of course excluding India.

[Alex777]

Are you seriously transmitting these bloodthirsty ideas? What for?

[businessv]

Quote: MUD

After which China will find itself in the "Stone Age" with a population comparable to that of many neighboring countries.

Pancake! You are bloodthirsty!

[Poetry]

"In the meantime, we are ready to ship you a batch of stones and fittings."

[Mountain shooter]

This is understandable why. The export versions of the S-400 differ from the Russian ones, and therefore cannot be supplied "out of stock" ...

[strelokmira]

This is understandable why. The export versions of the S-400 differ from the Russian ones, and therefore cannot be supplied "out of stock" ...

Because China can impose sanctions on this, and their sanctions are not European, then our economy will make such a contract that the S-400 contract will not even pay back

[Doccor18]

But, as noted, to deliver anti-aircraft missile systems earlier than scheduled does not work.

And Singh must be encouraged and Xi should not be offended. In general, it would be time for Russia to take, as an arbiter, to reconcile these mastodons.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

it would be nice to measure them

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5

it would be nice to them to try on

Exactly. And to weigh.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

need to make peace

[mikhailovich22]

Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5

it would be nice to measure them

Why measure them?

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Well, I was sealed up and in response to a comment I wrote a message with the correct word.

[Tusv]

Well, what is there to comment. Seven years of a disco dancer will send anyone into suspended animation.

[Pavel57]

And did not occur to lease the S-300?

[evgen1221]

Our cart would push them, with you in the shortest possible time, turnkey plant, electronic technology and loot and you would be happy. In the meantime, we smile and wave.

[Viktor Sergeev]

There was nothing for a long time and stupidly performed. Weapons must be bought for war, not diversification. More models, more complicated logistics, linking different systems into a single system.

[Prisoner]

It seems ours also learned Indian dances. Now who will dance.

[bobba94]

This is called a process. If it were washing machines, then you could meet us and speed up the delivery, but we are talking about weapons, serious weapons and everything should be at a serious technological level. Everything is correct ..... so that later there would be no talk about the fact that Indian operators didn’t shoot down the enemy’s plane due to a malfunction in the S-400 air defense system assembled by the Russians in a hurry.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: bobba94

This is called a process. If it were washing machines, then you could meet us and speed up the delivery, but we are talking about weapons, serious weapons and everything should be at a serious technological level. Everything is correct ..... so that later there would be no talk about the fact that Indian operators didn’t shoot down the enemy’s plane due to a malfunction in the S-400 air defense system assembled by the Russians in a hurry.

No, it looks as if the Ukrainian Minister of Defense came to Belarus and asked them to expedite the supply of multiple launch rocket systems due to the conflict on the border with Russia. We would clearly not be glad about the decision of the Belarusians to speed up supplies. Here the same thing, the decision is most likely a political one, which was shoved into technical impossibility

[bobba94]

India accounts for approximately 30% of total Russian arms exports. Where do the legs of Chinese aviation, armored vehicles, navy, air defense, missile defense and so on. and so on. also well known. Here the whole trinity intertwined for the most I can not and, in my opinion, it is now somehow strange to talk about political decisions. Push not push, and who are you fooling ....

[Bodipancher]

In theory, S-400 should only be delivered complete with systems like Thor, Carapace, or S-350. And training to work in such complexes should also be in conjunction with medium and short range systems. Otherwise, the complexes can be destroyed, and the system itself is discredited. Such systems should not be sold separately, but only as part of a layered air defense system.

[Alf]

“Further acceleration is technically impossible,” a diplomatic source said.

Thank gods that our "brilliant" leaders have realized that as a pregnant woman do not feed, she will not give birth earlier. The plant is not rubber and there are no people willing to stand at the machine.