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Two versions of the origin of budenovki: from the history of headdresses of the Red Army

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Budenovka - the most original and interesting hat in stories domestic armed forces of the twentieth century. Which of those whose childhood passed in the USSR is not familiar with the budenovka, similar to the helmets of ancient Russian heroes?


For the Red Army or for the march across Constantinople?


Everything is clear with the name of the headdress: “Budenovka” is in honor of Semyon Budyonny, the famous commander of the Red Cavalry. In fact, initially the cloth helmet received the name “Frunzevka” in the Red Army by the name of Mikhail Frunze, since it was under his command that the units where a new headgear was introduced as a mandatory component of uniforms were received.

On May 7, 1918, the People's Commissariat for Military Affairs of the RSFSR announced a competition. Artists had to develop new uniforms for the Red Army, including a headdress. Such great artists as Viktor Mikhailovich Vasnetsov and Boris Mikhailovich Kustodiev took part in the work on the budenovka. As a result, on December 18, 1918, the Revolutionary Military Council approved a cloth helmet, the shape of which resembled a shell with a barminta of Russian epic heroes.

True, there is another version of the origin of budenovki. According to this point of view, the history of a unique headdress is rooted in the pre-revolutionary period. During the First World War, in order to raise patriotic sentiments in the army and in the rear, the tsarist authorities actively exploited Old Russian themes, including the exploits of epic heroes.

Special cloth helmets were also developed in which soldiers of the Russian imperial army were to march along Constantinople (Istanbul) after the victory over the Ottoman Empire. But these helmets never entered the army, but remained in warehouses, where they were discovered by subordinates of the commander of the war, Leo Trotsky, after the revolution. However, unlike the Soviet version of the origin of budenovki, documentary evidence of the royal version is unknown.

Officially, the adoption of a new winter headdress occurred after the order of the Revolutionary Military Council No. 116 of January 16, 1919. He described the budenovka as a helmet of a woolen protective color on a cotton lining, consisting of a cap sewn from six triangles tapering upwards, an oval visor and a rear cap with elongated ends, which were fastened under the chin or fastened to buttons on the cap.

The five-pointed star sewn in front of the visor testified to the belonging of the fighter to the Red Army. Since on July 29, 1918, a metal emblem in the form of a red five-pointed star with crossed plow and hammer was worn in the Red Army, it was mounted on the budenki in the center of the sewn cloth star.

Then, during the years of the Civil War, the Budenovka acquired symbolic significance for the Red Army and all those who supported the Bolsheviks: the Red Army men in Budenovka flaunted on many propaganda posters. The most famous of them was the poster "Have you signed up as a volunteer?" Dmitry Moor (Orlov), created in June 1920.

From Civil to Patriotic: 22 years of the glorious path of budenovki


On April 8, 1919, a new RVSR order No. 628 was issued regarding the color of cloth, which was used to distinguish the branches of the armed forces. The same order regulated the color of the stars sewn on the budenovka, and the cloth, which was fitted with the buttons of the helmet. Infantry units wore a raspberry star, cavalry - blue, artillery - orange, aviation - blue, engineering troops - black, border troops - green.


Budenovka border guard

In January 1922, in addition to the winter budenovka, a similar summer headdress from tent canvas or cotton was introduced. But on the summer headdress there were no “slap” lapels, which were fastened under the chin on the winter budenovka. However, as a summer headdress, budenovka lasted only two years and in May 1924 was replaced by a cap.

But winter budenovka continued to be used, becoming less tall and more rounded. Cloth for winter budenovki since 1922 used not protective, but dark gray. On August 2, 1926, a sewn cloth star was canceled by a new order of the PBC of the USSR: now only metal emblems were attached to the budenovki. In the same 1926, the protective color of the cloth of the headdress was returned.

The official history of this unique headdress of the Red Army ended in the summer of 1940. Just a year budenovka "did not live" until the start of World War II. On July 5, 1940, Order No. 187 of the People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR was published, replacing the Budenovka as a winter headdress with a cap with earflaps. This decision was made following the results of the Soviet-Finnish war: the command reported that budenovki did not provide sufficient protection from the cold.

However, back in 1941-1942. budenovki as a headdress remained in some active parts of the Red Army, and in partisan detachments, military schools and schools, in a number of rear units, budenovka was used until 1944. By the way, according to some reports, the Red Army soldiers themselves did not particularly favor. But in the 1950s and 1960s, the budenovka began to be intensely popularized in mass Soviet culture. In the post-war period, budenovka was widely used as a civilian children's headdress. gaining immense popularity.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 28 June 2020 09: 34
    +7
    Personally, I read that the creator of this headdress was the artist Vasnetsov. Moreover, he created it for the tsarist army, but there "did not come to court", but the Red Army began to actively use it, because thanks to the unusual shape it was easy to identify the unit from afar and in the bloody wheelhouse it is easier to identify the enemy.
    But, it was also indicated that the headdress did not suffer special love - over time, it lost its original shape, especially the summer one (it also decorated police officers in white cotton).
    From personal life humor:
    Kum and his wife watched some kind of patriotic film. Kum is still a joke.
    They show the order of Budenovites with horses. Stars on budenovki blue.
    Kuma:
    “Why are the blue stars?”
    Kum in all seriousness:
    - This is the landing cavalry ...
    A long pause, and then Kuma gives:
    - And how did they drop horses with parachutes? !!!
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 28 June 2020 10: 13
      -12 qualifying.
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Personally, I read that the creator of this headdress was the artist Vasnetsov. Moreover, he created it for the tsarist army, but there "did not come to court", but the Red Army began to actively use it, because thanks to the unusual shape it was easy to identify the unit from afar and in the bloody wheelhouse it is easier to identify the enemy.
      But, it was also indicated that the headdress did not suffer special love - over time, it lost its original shape, especially the summer one (it also decorated police officers in white cotton).
      From personal life humor:
      Kum and his wife watched some kind of patriotic film. Kum is still a joke.
      They show the order of Budenovites with horses. Stars on budenovki blue.
      Kuma:
      “Why are the blue stars?”
      Kum in all seriousness:
      - This is the landing cavalry ...
      A long pause, and then Kuma gives:
      - And how did they drop horses with parachutes? !!!

      ... and bleed off excess steam through the upper pimp, when ... our indignant mind boils ... '' laughing
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 28 June 2020 10: 42
        +5
        You repeat the liberal remark from the perestroika film, there the hero of the artist Igor Dmitriev said that phrase.
        1. Sklendarka
          Sklendarka 28 June 2020 10: 55
          +3
          I heard the enth phrase back in those days, when without bending down I took the cat by the tail, i.e. in the mid-60s ...
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 28 June 2020 11: 45
            -4
            Well, she was not invented for the film of the late 80s, this is from the same malice of the lieutenants Golitsyn, who worked as taxi drivers in Paris in the 20s.
      2. DeKo
        DeKo 28 June 2020 20: 44
        +2
        The upper pimp is called the brain drain
      3. irina-kyge
        irina-kyge 24 August 2020 20: 14
        0
        This is you about the Germans in World War 1, transfer to the Red Army. The Germans had a bump on the helmet to relieve stress, a lightning rod for the brain. Our General Staff laughed like that in 1914.
  2. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 28 June 2020 09: 42
    +6
    Not the worst version of a hat. The pilot, in comparison with her, - fellow "masterpiece".
    Something from Budenovka turned to Afghan. I consider this summer hat the best option in my service.
    Auto RU - good
    1. figwam
      figwam 28 June 2020 10: 20
      +7
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Not the worst version of a hat.

      For winter conditions it’s bad, therefore they introduced a hat.
    2. Clear
      Clear 28 June 2020 10: 27
      20
      What a beautiful 18-year-old gunner Yuri Nikulin pictured in the Budennovka during the Finnish War yes .

      1. Astra wild
        Astra wild 28 June 2020 18: 55
        +1
        I did not know that Yu. Nikulin was a cadet of the artillery school. From now on, you need to better know the biography of your favorite actors
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 28 June 2020 19: 41
          10
          Faith! Yuri Nikulin was not a cadet of the artillery school. He went through two wars. From and to. But the cadet, I was not sorry.
          1. Astra wild
            Astra wild 29 June 2020 16: 47
            +4
            I say that you need to better know the biography of your favorite actors. I know modern insignia well, but before the military I got a dark forest
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 30 June 2020 07: 40
              +1
              Quote: Astra wild
              I say that you need to better know the biography of your favorite actors.

              So no question at all! On the Internet, if you wish, you can find a lot of information, and not only on Wiki. winked
      2. Phil77
        Phil77 28 June 2020 20: 07
        +4
        Military photos of Alexei Makarovich Smirnov are also wonderfully good !!! soldier
    3. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 28 June 2020 11: 01
      +6
      And really, what is the bad summer option, even from the standpoint of modernity? Pretty close in my opinion to such a headdress

      And so much better than caps.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 28 June 2020 14: 44
        +8
        Quote: Clear
        What a beautiful 18-year-old gunner Yuri Nikulin pictured in the Budennovka during the Finnish War.

        Nikulin was an anti-aircraft gunner. Here he is already in a cap.
      2. BAI
        BAI 28 June 2020 15: 31
        +6
        close in my opinion to such a headdress

        And not much different from the Soviet "Tropical Navy Pilot".
        1. sak1969
          sak1969 28 June 2020 17: 40
          +4
          BAI close in my opinion to such a headdress
          And not much different from the Soviet "Tropical Navy Pilot".


          In my opinion, this is what the "Tropical Navy Pilot"
          1. pmkemcity
            pmkemcity 29 June 2020 11: 23
            -1
            Modern Austrian "budennovka". I myself have one, very comfortable, but for our Siberian summer, it's cold for winter.


  3. Phil77
    Phil77 28 June 2020 09: 43
    11
    According to the memoirs of N. V. Vtorov, whose concern was fulfilling the order for * heroes * they sewed them for the participants of the parade in Berlin / in case of victory /.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 28 June 2020 09: 54
      11
      Quote: Phil77
      According to the memoirs of N. V. Vtorov, whose concern was fulfilling the order for * heroes * they sewed them for the participants of the parade in Berlin / in case of victory /.

      Yes, and can someone clarify this? (not just in one word - remake)

      Exhibits at the Museum of the First World War in the Tsar's Military Chamber, Pushkin
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 28 June 2020 10: 00
        +9
        We used it. Pilots- * flights *, well, the legendary * leathers *. Everything from the RIA warehouses. soldier
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 28 June 2020 10: 09
          +9
          By the way, Adrian helmets were used in the Red Army until 1939. Of course, with minor changes. soldier
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 28 June 2020 10: 18
            13
            Quote: Phil77
            By the way, Adrian helmets were used in the Red Army until 1939. Of course, with minor changes. soldier

            hi
            Here, Sergei found another argument in favor of the "imperial" version.

            In the work of O.A. Vtorova “The beginning of the continuation. Russian Entrepreneurship and Russian Social Democracy ”can find the following lines:

            “The uniform was commissioned by the orders of the Court of His Imperial Majesty and was intended for the troops of the Russian army, in which it was to be held at the Victory Parade in Berlin. These were long-talked overcoats with “conversations”, cloth helmets stylized as old Russian helmets, later known as “budenovki”, as well as sets of leather jackets with trousers, leggings and capes, designed for mechanized troops, aircraft, crews of armored cars, armored trains and scooters. During the organization of the Cheka, this uniform was handed over to the employees of this structure - the armed detachment of the party.



            In this form, the Russians were to hold a victory parade in Berlin and in Constantinople at the end of 1917.
            Similar memories can be found in the memoirs of emigrants.
            1. Ragnar Lodbrok
              Ragnar Lodbrok 28 June 2020 10: 31
              16
              I'm sorry to interfere so shamelessly, but here I completely agree with Gennady.
              In this form, the Russians were to hold a victory parade in Berlin and in Constantinople at the end of 1917.

              The Red Army simply adopted what it already was, like pilots and tankers, as commissar suits.
              1. Terenin
                Terenin 28 June 2020 11: 58
                10
                Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
                I'm sorry to interfere so shamelessly, but here I completely agree with Gennady.
                In this form, the Russians were to hold a victory parade in Berlin and in Constantinople at the end of 1917.

                The Red Army simply adopted what it already was, like pilots and tankers, as commissar suits.

                hi
                Along the way, Trotsky then chose the lesser of evils - he, in fact, had no other option. Or use what lay in the warehouses, or even dispense with a new outfit.
              2. BAI
                BAI 28 June 2020 15: 37
                +9
                Naturally. It is very doubtful that in the conditions of the ruin of the Civil War, it would be possible to hold some kind of competition and start a new production from scratch.
                By the way, none of the historians of the Civil War recalls the competition for the creation of a headdress.
            2. Phil77
              Phil77 28 June 2020 10: 37
              +7
              Quote: Terenin
              Berlin and Constantinople at the end of 1917.

              Good morning! Guilty! I was inattentive, corrected! soldier good
            3. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 28 June 2020 10: 47
              +1
              Similar memories can be found in the memoirs of emigrants.

              Well, there is a lot to be found in these memoirs. And about Constantinople (Istanbul) - didn’t the Russian General Staff know the results of the Allied Dardanelles failed operation?
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 28 June 2020 13: 19
                +4
                By the time of the creation of the * heroes *, this operation was not yet a failure.
                1. Aviator_
                  Aviator_ 28 June 2020 13: 24
                  +4
                  Actually, the operation had to be prepared jointly with our fleet, but Minister of War Churchill then decided that he could handle it - he probably did not want to share the straits if successful. And the assault was well piled up. And this despite the fact that the enemy was only the Turks, not the Austrians and, especially, not the Germans.
                  1. Phil77
                    Phil77 28 June 2020 13: 28
                    +4
                    That's right. And the straits only promised. Then, someday. I'll give it back. Half. laughing
                    1. Ryazan87
                      Ryazan87 28 June 2020 16: 58
                      +5
                      Specify:
                      The English-French-Russian agreement of March 18.03.1915, 16 and the Sykes-Picot Agreement of May 1916, 1856 (the documents forming these agreements are published in the Collection of Russian Agreements with Other States (1917-1952) publishing house of political literature, XNUMX).
                      They were quite specific.
                      In terms of the straits, the requests of the Russian Empire were formulated by the Minister of Foreign Affairs Sazonov:
                      "... Any decision would be insufficient and fragile if if the city of Constantinople, the western coast of the Bosphorus, Sea of ​​Marmara and the Dardanelles, as well as southern Thrace, to the Enos – Midia line, were not henceforth included in the Russian Empire.
                      Likewise, and for strategic reasons, part of the Asian coastline, between the Bosphorus, the Sakaria River and the designated point on the Izmid Gulf, the Sea of ​​Marmara Islands, the Imbros and Tenedos Islands, must be incorporated into the empire. "
                      +
                      - Russia annexes the provinces of Erzurum, Trapezond, Van and Bitlis to the point to be determined on the Black Sea coast west of Trapezond.
                      - The region of Kurdistan, located south of Van and Bitlis, between Mush, Sert, the course of the Tigris, Jezira - Ibn Omar, the line of mountain peaks dominating Amadia, and the Mergever region, will be ceded to Russia.

                      Well, the final:
                      "... The Anglo-French-Russian secret agreement remained secret until the Great October Socialist Revolution, although the very fact of the Allies' consent to the annexation of Constantinople and the Straits by Russia was announced by the tsarist government in 1916 in the State Duma. The Peace Decree (...) was annulled. all secret treaties of the tsarist and Provisional governments. An appeal signed by V. I. Lenin and I. V. Stalin to all working Muslims of Russia and the East (3. XII 1917) specifically noted that “the secret treaties of the deposed tsar on the capture of Constantinople, confirmed by the overthrown Kerensky, are now torn and destroyed".
            4. Alexander Greene
              Alexander Greene 28 June 2020 12: 07
              +6
              Quote: Terenin
              In this form, the Russians were to hold a victory parade in Berlin and in Constantinople at the end of 1917.
              Similar memories can be found in the memoirs of emigrants.


              Worthless these memories.
              I wonder who set the date (end of 1917) for the victory parade in Berlin and Constantinople?

              If helmets were sewn in 1914, then how could they know that the victory would be at the end of 1917?
              If they were sewn in 1915 or later, then what victory could already be talked about, if by this time Germany and the allies had seized significant territories of the western part of the Russian Empire, and the Russian army had practically nothing to fight.

              The headdress "Budenovka" was offered by Vasnetsov for the competition in 1918 with the original name "Bogatyrka".

              In the Red Army at that time, all the uniforms of the old army were being carried. And if the helmets of the Bogatyrka were in stocks, they would have all been put on for a long time, and so they only appeared in the army in 1919.
              And, presented in the photo, the uniform from the Pushkin Museum is already sewn at the present time, according to new-fangled versions.
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 28 June 2020 13: 09
                +5
                Quote: Alexander Green
                If helmets were sewn in 1914, then how could they know that the victory would be at the end of 1917?

                By announcing the mobilization they hoped for victory in the war.
                Quote: Alexander Green
                And if the helmets of the Bogatyrka were in stocks, they would have all been put on for a long time, and so they only appeared in the army in 1919.

                Perhaps a small consignment of clothes was sewn and that particular warehouse / where it was stored / was captured by the Red Army. Well, and then * went to the people *. Version, however? hi
                1. Alexander Greene
                  Alexander Greene 28 June 2020 16: 27
                  -1
                  Quote: Phil77
                  By announcing the mobilization they hoped for victory in the war.

                  When mobilization was announced, the leavened patriots shouted. that we will throw our caps over Germany! I don't think they were going to throw their hats until the end of 1917.

                  Quote: Phil77
                  Perhaps a small batch of clothes was sewn

                  In Tsarist Russia, a small batch of leather jackets was sewn for someone, so in December 1917 they were given to the Chekists, and why should the "heroes" linger in warehouses?
                  1. Phil77
                    Phil77 28 June 2020 17: 06
                    +4
                    Quote: Alexander Green
                    Chekists, and why suddenly "heroes" in warehouses linger?

                    In general, the situation is quite anecdotal. There are well-known authors of riding breeches, raglans and other french suits. But! It’s not known who created one of the symbols of our Civil War. One version. But after all, only years have passed.
              2. Florian geyer
                Florian geyer 28 June 2020 15: 59
                +5
                Yes, the museum remake causes only laughter. And someone believes in this nonsense.
                On the other hand, there is no 100% guarantee that Vasnetsov is the author of the budennovka. Many artists and even ordinary people participated in the competition. It is possible that they accepted the "average" version of several proposals.
                Moreover, the German military fashion, in this case Pikelhaube (which, incidentally, was called the Russian helmet in Germany itself in the 19th century, since it came to them from Russia), had a clear influence.
                I think that the reasons for choosing a style are related to the fact that whites chose the British uniform style, respectively, red, on the contrary, German motifs in design.
                Although, in practice, both of them for the most part dressed up haphazardly, uniform number 8. They wore something.
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 28 June 2020 17: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: Florian Geyer
                  Moreover, German military fashion, in this case pickelhaube, had a clear influence

                  Another pebble addressed to the Bolsheviks? laughing
                  No offense, right! Just kidding!
        2. bubalik
          bubalik 28 June 2020 12: 38
          +3
          Phil77 (Sergey) Today, 10: 43

          Nifiga Serge stop . Why Budenovka and 1918? and ri? what

          Read: RVSR Order No. 116 of January 16, 1919.
          ,,, it was originally just "cap" called. lol


          1. Phil77
            Phil77 28 June 2020 13: 04
            +3
            Sergey! I appreciate your knowledge of archival documents and the ability to work with them, but what is indicated in the ones you cited?
            Description of the headgear, no more than that. Yes, date-January 16, 1919. Yes, signature-Trotsky L.D., pre-war committee. That's it! Oh, sorry.
            But we are talking about the CREATION of this headdress. And with this tension! Only the author is known / presumably /. hi
          2. Phil77
            Phil77 28 June 2020 13: 13
            +3
            Quote: bubalik
            it was originally simply called a "cap".

            And what can it be officially called? * Frunzevka *? * Bogatyrka *? * Budenovka *? Conditionally * Product-567 / bis *? bully
            1. bubalik
              bubalik 28 June 2020 13: 14
              +2
              Where does the homeland begin?
              From the burning windows in the distance,
              From the old paternal budenovki,
              That somewhere in the closet we found, (c)
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 28 June 2020 13: 16
                +2
                The song is good. Performed by Mark Bernes. From the movie * Shield and Sword *. Next? drinks
  4. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 28 June 2020 09: 46
    -4
    shelled with a barmitza

    Shalom from Bar Mitzvah? What kind of "barmitsa"? laughing
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 28 June 2020 09: 54
      11
      Shalom from Bar Mitzvah? What kind of "barmitsa"?
      You seem to be on a military site. It's a shame not to know! wassat

      Barmitsa is a helmet element in the form of chain mail (sometimes a lamellar was used instead of chain mail) that frames the helmet along the lower edge. She covered the neck, shoulders, nape and sides of the head; in some cases, chest and lower face.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 28 June 2020 09: 57
        +4
        Oh thanks! good
        During my service this was no longer)). Lost relevance, so to speak wink
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 28 June 2020 13: 31
          +5
          Quote: Krasnodar
          ) Lost relevance, so to speak

          Eh, eh, eh! There is a Chanel, but there is an overcoat! How can they be mixed up? laughing laughing laughing
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 28 June 2020 13: 34
            +3
            And if the overcoat from Chanel? laughing
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 28 June 2020 13: 35
              +2
              Nooo! A classic of the genre is a little black dress! bully Beauties! And if also a figure! Oooooh!
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 28 June 2020 13: 38
                +3
                What if Eve’s costume is under the coat? wink
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 28 June 2020 13: 39
                  +2
                  The answer is short-basic instinct! good
                  1. Astra wild
                    Astra wild 28 June 2020 19: 09
                    +2
                    Can you see a bird on a flight, and a drunkard on dreams?
                    1. Phil77
                      Phil77 28 June 2020 20: 13
                      +2
                      Faith, Faith! Well, are we men, or where already? God himself ordered us to pay attention to your beauty! love bully
                      1. Astra wild
                        Astra wild 29 June 2020 17: 06
                        +2
                        For God's sake. Just don't forget about the wives
                2. Catfish
                  Catfish 29 June 2020 01: 34
                  +2
                  And what else could there be, not Adam. laughing
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 29 June 2020 02: 48
                    +2
                    Today everything can be))
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 29 June 2020 05: 09
                      +2
                      Hi Albert. hi Our Seryoga, I feel, a little relaxed about Sunday. drinks smile
                      1. Phil77
                        Phil77 29 June 2020 05: 42
                        +1
                        And here it is! No drop, not half a drop !!! It was just a wonderful mood, lovely weather, and indeed the weekend was a success. Why would they spoil it? No! Good morning, Konstantin! laughing
                      2. Catfish
                        Catfish 29 June 2020 07: 23
                        +2
                        Good morning, Sergey! hi And I was already jealous, I spent all the weekend on dry. request smile
                    2. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 29 June 2020 09: 55
                      +1
                      Greetings! hi Deserved day off, why wouldn’t it relax? drinks
            2. Catfish
              Catfish 29 June 2020 01: 44
              +3
              Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ...
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 29 June 2020 02: 49
                +2
                Taki not bad good
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 29 June 2020 05: 47
                  +2
                  Yes! Taki is very good! good good good
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 29 June 2020 07: 24
                    +2
                    And to some girl put a minus. Probably a homosexual. request
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 29 June 2020 09: 56
                      +3
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      And to some girl put a minus. Probably a homosexual. request

                      Other girl laughing
                    2. Catfish
                      Catfish 29 June 2020 10: 14
                      +1
                      Do not slander Vera, she does not fall so low! smile And I didn’t notice others here.
                    3. Phil77
                      Phil77 29 June 2020 13: 09
                      +2
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      Do not slander Vera

                      Faith is our everything! And also Hope and Love! love
                    4. Astra wild
                      Astra wild 29 June 2020 18: 30
                      +1
                      Cat, for the sake of justice: Yasnaya posted a photo of Nikulin in a budenovka yesterday. In the sectionsNews, Opinion, there are: Tatyana, Deprisant, used to flash Tatra
                    5. Catfish
                      Catfish 29 June 2020 21: 19
                      +1
                      Hey. love
                      Clear from the newcomers, the Depressant does not enter here, the Tatra disappeared in the darkness, only you, Vera, constantly communicate with us. smile
                    6. Phil77
                      Phil77 30 June 2020 07: 28
                      +1
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      Tatra disappeared in the darkness

                      Hi Konstantin !!! You are mistaken, oh, you are mistaken! laughing
                      Tatra with * enemies commi * always and everywhere. But just out of curiosity, in which of the Moscow theaters did she serve? No.
                    7. Catfish
                      Catfish 30 June 2020 07: 46
                      +1
                      Seryozha, hi! Well, how do I know in which theater she served, do I look like a theater-goer? laughing
                      Have a look at the article about PMCs.
            3. Astra wild
              Astra wild 29 June 2020 17: 00
              +4
              You are mistaken: I appreciate female beauty
            4. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 29 June 2020 17: 02
              +1
              A good girl - but ordinary. Is not it?
        2. Astra wild
          Astra wild 29 June 2020 17: 04
          +2
          Or the one that was promoted. Actually, we love that.
        3. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 29 June 2020 17: 53
          +3
          Russia is a country of beautiful women, every year new competitors are born, younger, fresher. Therefore - yes, most are trying to grab to the maximum)).
        4. Catfish
          Catfish 29 June 2020 21: 20
          +1
          Actually, we love that.

          That's right! laughing
  • Phil77
    Phil77 28 June 2020 13: 37
    +2
    And there is a double-breasted pea coat, supposedly from Versace. good
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 28 June 2020 13: 44
      +1
      Versace has a lot of jokes - by the way, I have a leather Italian down jacket, stylized as a sweatshirt and an absolutely Gothic coat from Armani laughing With the latter, he even ran into an adventure - my uncle specially hit me with a shoulder strongly ... then he poured snotty - I'm a retired military man)).
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 28 June 2020 13: 48
        +1
        Damn, I don’t like the coat! Weather, you know ...
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 28 June 2020 14: 24
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          I have three, including informal laughing In Moscow in autumn and early spring the norms
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 28 June 2020 14: 30
            +1
            In Moscow? In the early spring? Well, if only from * Radisson-Chechen * and immediately to * Merc *. Not my case, I walk on the ground. That week we had such a shower! Yes with hail, but with flooding! On the Internet there are shots of what was happening! If you type on a search engine- * Waterfall in the transition * Biryulevo-commodity *. *
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 28 June 2020 14: 32
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              I am more modest - the maximum of Savoy))
              And now it’s easier - from Domodedovo to some kind of Cherokee, around the city and back laughing
            2. Astra wild
              Astra wild 28 June 2020 20: 44
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              Are you being modest?
            3. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 28 June 2020 20: 45
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              No, just greedy
            4. Phil77
              Phil77 28 June 2020 21: 16
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              Quote: Krasnodar
              No, just greedy

              From 11000 rubles per license plate. How did the unforgettable Kitty say?
              *-However!*.
              At the time of my childhood in this building was a hotel * Berlin *.
              Albert, is the stuffed bear still standing in the lobby?
            5. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 28 June 2020 22: 42
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              I do not remember. The lobby is very small.
              The last time was there about 5 years ago. The food did not like, but. If you do not want to dangle around Moscow, you declare - I arrived in the capital, I accept in Savoy. And 80% of the clientele with 60% of counterparties come to the meeting themselves laughing As a result, you earn more
  • IL-64
    IL-64 28 June 2020 11: 20
    +1
    This is a calculating net attached to the bottom of the battle head armor, covering the neck and, in part, the shoulders of the warrior
  • fuxila
    fuxila 28 June 2020 11: 45
    +4
    Shalom from Bar Mitzvah? What kind of "barmitsa"?

    This is just a morning greeting at the Echo Matzah radio station from radio host Alex Ben Diktov. laughing
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 28 June 2020 11: 59
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      By the way, I used to listen to them - a couple of historical programs, and put them on the same list as the Red Star - bedtime stories laughing
    2. Phil77
      Phil77 28 June 2020 13: 25
      +1
      Quote: fuxila
      Alexa Ben Diktova.

      * Who is this? I don’t know! Business? In the law? * From the movie * Inn on Pyatnitskaya *. laughing
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 28 June 2020 13: 37
        +2
        I listened in 2014 to their review of the events in Gaza during the next dismantling of Hamas with Israel. Being very right-wing in foreign policy, blushed by the radicalism of Gazprom Radio Station in relation to the unfortunate residents of the Sector laughing
  • Free wind
    Free wind 28 June 2020 10: 10
    +4
    The cleaning was uncomfortable, and the crown was very cold.
  • Catfish
    Catfish 29 June 2020 01: 47
    +1
    I read, and more than once, that the red cloth star was removed from the Budyonovka because of Finnish snipers, it greatly facilitated their aiming, especially in the daytime in winter.
    1. hohol95
      hohol95 29 June 2020 08: 34
      +2
      I read, and more than once, that the red cloth star was removed from the Budyonovka because of Finnish snipers, it greatly facilitated their aiming, especially in the daytime in winter.

      There were no buenos at Khalkhin Gol. But there were simple stars and other insignia on the buttonholes giving bright glare for Japanese snipers!
      After significant losses, the officers changed their caps for Panama hats and removed the extra "harness"! The helmets shone just as strongly in the bright Mongolian sun!
      They did not attach great importance to the Red Army to camouflage the private and officer on an individual level!
      And the Japanese added fine sand to the paint for their steel helmets. And their helmets didn't "glare" in the sun.
  • deddem
    deddem 29 June 2020 10: 36
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    The English-French-Russian agreement of March 18.03.1915, 16 and the Sykes-Picot Agreement of May 1916, XNUMX


    Oh, thanks for reminding me.

    In general, it's funny - almost all the secret treaties have been published long ago, the Franco-English round dances around the Poles and the secret agreements of the "allies" on the subject of "throwing" the Russians in the Middle East are well known.
    It is also well known how, as a result, they were thrown according to the agreements of the same Italians and Greeks, in the style of "the situation has changed" and "with whom you agreed, so ask."

    But no - people who believe in the French honesty and toughness of the English word, and on this basis are sweetly fantasizing about the Straits, have not yet been translated.
  • abdrafikov
    abdrafikov 29 June 2020 21: 43
    +1
    That year in 1983, if memory serves, our team was going to celebrate Soviet Army Day. And I, as a student of the evening department of the university, was instructed to prepare a report for the holiday. Of course, I didn’t bother for a long time, almost blew everything away from the university history textbook. It stated in black and white that the Red Army was dressing in a new uniform from the tsar’s army depots. It would be different if we would not compose and mislead the student audience. I don’t see the point.

    Another thing, it is safe to assume that the stocks in the warehouses were limited - after all, not the entire imperial army was going to be dressed for the victory parade. So it took the artists to prepare the "design" of the uniforms for the entire Red Army - according to the combat arms, according to the found samples. And even if the reserves were solid, they still could not last long. The civil war went on for more than one year.
  • Sergei Novozhilov
    Sergei Novozhilov 3 August 2020 07: 13
    0
    Pickelhelm of Prussia and Budennovka have a common ancestor from the Russian imperial army.
  • Sergei Novozhilov
    Sergei Novozhilov 7 August 2020 19: 23
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    Grandfather of Budennovka https://fishki.net/2395210-pikelyhelym---russkaja-kaska-germanskoj-armii.html
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  • Berg berg
    Berg berg 20 September 2020 22: 27
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    Actually, at first she was called a hero! And only after the massive wearing of it in the Red Army, they began to call it a budenovka.