“This is a great day for our country”: LCS-24 Oakland entered the US Navy

The United States Navy officially included the Auckland littoral ship, a coastal ship. We are talking about the ship USS Oakland (LCS-24), which was launched on July 21, 2019. The ceremony of transferring the warship to the U.S. Navy was held at the Austal shipyard (Mobile, Alabama) on June 26, 2020.

The ship "Auckland" belongs to the class of ships "Independence". Its final commissioning is scheduled for 2023.

The U.S. Navy notes that the ship is designed so that it is able to carry out combat missions not only in relative shallow waters of the coastal zone, but also in the ocean. In particular, ships of the “Independence” class of the US Navy are regarded as ships of support for advanced presence, deterrence and control.

At the moment, another 4 ships of a similar class are under construction. USS Oakland is a group of LCS ships. The ship, which is transferred to the US Navy, should receive a special name. He is the third ship of this class.

LCS Program Manager Captain Mike Taylor:

This is a great day for the Navy and our entire country. The transfer of the future USS Oakland to the naval forces took place. This ship will play an important role in the implementation of the future naval strategy of our country.

The ship is assigned to the naval base of San Diego.

Its length is 127,4 m, width - 31,6 m, draft - 4,1 m, maximum speed - 47 knots. The ship is armed with the Evolved SeaRAM 11 missile launcher, as well as the 110 mm BAE Systems Mk57 naval artillery mount. Equipped with electronic suppression systems. Ships of this class are classified as ships of low radar visibility.

Comments

[Thrifty]

So, it seems like Trump himself said that littoral ships were unsuccessful, they began to build frigates to replace them? Or, they have seven Fridays already on the day, not the week? ??

[voyaka uh]

Their failure is in price. They are expensive. And the crew is small and should be
very qualified.
But a small ship can fight in the ocean and reaches a speed of 45 knots.
An additional 8 anti-ship missiles are put on the nose to increase attacking abilities.
in two installations. And he has three helicopters. Two ordinary and unmanned.

[nickname7]

The case is according to the Zamvolt scheme, and they wrote that this was a failed project.
In speed, few ships will be able to catch up with him, he will be able to easily catch up and break away from museum exhibits of other countries

[Cyril G ...]

And what speed will give you such a fundamental, did not you try to think?
The main thing is you can’t get away from the plane. (c.)

[Avior]

And where does the plane come from in the ocean?

[Cyril G ...]

I won’t even answer. Think for yourself. And most importantly, where does the ocean come from?

[Avior]

You have already answered
The usual answer when there is nothing to answer

[Cyril G ...]

And the point is to answer a stupid question?
- the plane arrives from the coast, with refueling or with several if necessary. A helicopter with anti-ship missiles from another ship can fly ...

[Alex777]

You are very confident.
But I came across infa on the Internet, that at a target speed of more than 45 knots, the guidance of the GOS RCC breaks down. So maybe not everything is so simple.
And the chain of islands around China, for the capture of which the States are fundamentally changing the structure and weapons of the ILC, is very far from the coast.
The capture of these islands blocks all of China's sea lanes.

[Alex777]

https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/03/30/korpus-morskoy-pehoty-ssha-gotovitsya-k-voyne-s-kitaycami-na-tihom-okeane
https://iz.ru/993335/aleksei-tarasov/more-po-koleno-amerikantcy-gotoviatsia-k-konfliktu-s-kitaem

[Cyril G ...]

When Exoset had such a restriction, the first ... The ancient P-15 didn’t even have 40 nodes. And this is not a problem

[Avior]

Oh, the helicopter has already appeared.
Another submarine may be.
Do you really think that one RCP can drown a modern frigate? Oh well
He needs speed not in order to compete with airplanes, but in order to quickly and suddenly appear in the right place

[Cyril G ...]

that one RCC can drown a modern frigate?

What's the problem? They will have time to divert the good fellows by means of electronic warfare, but I would not have counted on the fire defeat of ElceeSom.

[vadivm59]

EM URO "Sheffield" British Navy. 1982, Falklands, one ur "exoset"

[Avior]

Firstly, one guy was drowned, and secondly, the ship was in a sky-ready state
Commander's fault
Discussed a hundred times

[vadivm59]

the conversation is not about combat readiness, as I understand it, but about one RCC = one frigate. The result is per person.

[Avior]

The conversation that, given the presence of modern electronic warfare and traps in a real situation, getting into anti-ship missiles in a combat-ready ship is an extremely low probability, close to zero, as follows from the experience of real military operations.

[Lesorub]

Quote: Avior

Oh, the helicopter has already appeared.
Another submarine may be.
Do you really think that one RCP can drown a modern frigate?

)))), well, you give, study the mathematical part of what materials the frigates are now)), correctly writes Cyril - remember the Falklands, there are planes over the ocean, and frigates from non-exploding RCC were disabled)

[Avior]

Learn
And then tell us about the case when anti-ship missiles hit a modern warship in a ready state
Something was discussed in detail, but with such cases, problems

[Lesorub]

Quote: Avior

Learn
And then tell us about the case when anti-ship missiles hit a modern warship in a ready state
Something was discussed in detail, but with such cases, problems

How modern is it? ) Or every year battles at sea?

[Avior]

The current level of RCC.
I'm waiting for examples

[Lesorub]

Quote: Avior

And where does the plane come from in the ocean?

))))))))))))))))), phew, they made you laugh! )

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: nickname7

In speed, few ships will be able to catch up with him, he will be able to easily catch up and break away from museum exhibits of other countries

Missiles will catch up.
These hobbies of surface ships speed of 40+ knots never led to anything good. There, the French in the 30s were carried away by 40-knot leaders and light cruisers - and where those French were in their forties.

[Grits]

Quote: nickname7

The case is according to the Zamvolt scheme, and they wrote that this was a failed project.
In speed, few ships will be able to catch up with him, he will be able to easily catch up and break away from museum exhibits of other countries

Cool boat. I won’t be surprised that in 20 years we will also come to the conclusion that it is necessary to build such ships. And outwardly they will be the same. Since we constantly copy them

[bayard]

Quote: Gritsa

I won’t be surprised that in 20 years we too will come to the conclusion that it is necessary to build such ships.

Already ill. In the year 2008 - 2009, there was a lot of talk about littoral ships for the Russian Navy of this type - a trimaran. A bunch of beautiful pictures, animation on the background of Putin ... and then they counted, wept, remembering the necessary infrastructure ... and no one even ordered a boat of this type.
But on the screensavers of the transmission that animation glowed for more than a year ... like almost an achievement.

[Ros 56]

What rocket can he run from? It was not created for the regatta, but in the current war ships are unlikely to see each other with their own eyes, only on the screen of the locator.

[Cyril G ...]

The price is not even the main thing - the concept and composition of weapons are unsuccessful first of all.

[Kerensky]

a small ship can fight in the ocean and reaches a speed of 45 knots.

Raider in archipelagos or straits? It seems to me that he is imprisoned by merchants to sausage.

[voyaka uh]

Right. In the straits of the western part of the Pacific Ocean. Philippines, Indonesia.
They are distilled there after the training of crews and the re-equipment of anti-ship missiles.

[Kerensky]

Right. In the straits of the western part of the Pacific Ocean. Philippines, Indonesia.

Well then, we look at other key points. Strait of Hormuz?

[voyaka uh]

I don’t think so. Iran is bluffing more than threatening.
But China is a real strategic threat.
And all modern weapons are slowly being transferred to the Pacific Ocean.

[Kerensky]

Iran is bluffing more than threatening.

He has something to bluff with. China also depends on these key points. Although there is still an SMP ...

[voyaka uh]

It's right. Almost all the ships that passed in 2019 on the NSR were Chinese.
And China is building several of its own icebreakers to accompany them.

[Kerensky]

And China is building several of its own icebreakers to accompany them.

Yeah .. Already built a couple ... With lifting devices on the tank ... That's why multi-ton hoists are needed on the NSR?
Well, I'm not talking about that now. This bourgeois creation is not very suitable for coastal defense. But to drive merchants - that's it.

[voyaka uh]

This is a fast stealth corvette. With 8 anti-ship missiles and three helicopters - reconnaissance
and percussion. He has a strong acoustic station against submarines.
But he himself cannot destroy them - only pass on the information.
Its air defense is weak, like all corvettes. Such a "commando" corvette.

[Kerensky]

He has a strong acoustic station against submarines.
But he himself cannot destroy them - only pass on the information.

Hop! And why then is such a station needed? Well, you spotted the boat .. Keep in contact until the carbon stitchers come up?

[Avior]

The helicopter will lift.
They are universal among Americans

[voyaka uh]

Pass on to Poseidon. Of which dozens.

[Cyril G ...]

So either remove the cross or wear panties ....

At 40 knots your Acoustics is useless. A torpedo will hit.

Pass on to Poseidon. Of which dozens.

I’ll tell you more, a hundred on the whole planet. What is the probability that the desired pipelats will be at least 4 hours away from the detected submarine?

[voyaka uh]

Hunting submarines, of course, is at minimum speed.
And the submarines themselves reduce their course to a minimum or to zero,
when they realize that they are hunted by ships, helicopters and Poseidons.
And they can’t go on a torpedo attack at this time.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: voyaka uh

And they can’t go on a torpedo attack at this time.

Why talk about what you do not understand?

[Kerensky]

Hunting submarines, of course, is at minimum speed.

This is all well and good, but why then mount a powerful GAS on a high-speed side? The crew is small .... Keep the acoustics changing. How many do they need at the post? Everyone 12 on GAS will be tied.
But if (I repeat) a communications hunter, then everything falls into place. He took the area and put his ears around ... The signature of the merchants is not a secret at all.

[voyaka uh]

"Keeping a change of acoustics. How many of them do you need on duty?" ////
----
That's just the point that GAS there is super-wound innovative.
And there is no change of acoustics. And one should do everything
duty technician officer from the wheelhouse.
And ten more systems. This is a comp ship. Not sailors are needed, but
electronic technicians.
Because of this, these ships failed a major submarine tracking exercise.
in the pacific ocean. Gus spotted her, and officers missed her testimony.
There was a scandal, and after that began intensive training of crews on
one dedicated training ship.

[Kerensky]

This is a comp ship. Not sailors are needed, but
electronic technicians.

And they have a BCF on a flash drive around their neck ...

[Vlad.by]

He will not live long in the Strait of Hormuz. From the coast, even 45 nodes will not be saved. And there is enough coastal artillery

[Kerensky]

He will not live long in the Strait of Hormuz

And at the exit? There you need to recharge twice a day.
Tirpitz also did not particularly drive. He turned the mechanisms in his fjord, everyone crap one's pants ...

[Vlad.by]

I want to look at those who worked in the strait ... The question is, from whom will it smell)

[Snail N9]

Was it not this type of "ship" that the Americans handed over to the Saudis that the Houthis slammed a missile into last year?

[aristok]

Quote: Snail N9

Was it not this type of "ship" that the Americans handed over to the Saudis that the Houthis slammed a missile into last year?

No, not like that.
There was a civilian catamaran in essence, slightly modernized for near-war use.

[bk0010]

Quote: voyaka uh

But a small ship can fight in the ocean

Than? He is not armed. They were going to fight by subscription.

Quote: voyaka uh

An additional 8 anti-ship missiles are put on the nose to increase attacking abilities.
in two installations.

Nowhere to put RCC. I heard that from the hopelessness they started to put ATGMs on him, so that at least you could fight off the boat.

[voyaka uh]

"There is nowhere to put RCC." ////
----
Found a place. Before the superstructure, on the deck ..
Here is a photo of the shot. Not a picture, but a photograph.
Norwegian anti-ship missile system, improved by Lochid. With the new GOS.

[bk0010]

Thank. What’s called? What to google?

[voyaka uh]

The Naval Strike Missile (NSM) is an anti-ship and land-attack missile developed by the Norwegian company Kongsberg Defense & Aerospace
They have already been put on those littoral ships that carry patrols.
in the West Pacific.

[bk0010]

Found thanks

[Oleg Olkha]

Behind the gun, on the deck, they didn’t organize the VPU in it, in front of the RCC Norwegian? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Oakland_(LCS-24)#/media/File:USS_Independence_(LCS-2)_at_Naval_Air_Station_Key_West_on_29_March_2010_(100329-N-1481K-298).jpg

[pmkemcity]

Quite a "liberal" ship. Now they will steam australopithecus. And they came up with the appropriate name.

[HAM]

And in the "square" "great day" - in 40 years the ships will arrive in the Navy ...

[Vlad.by]

Taki Ukraine will end earlier.
And these boats will rot faster than 40 years. I think from the age of 30 there will be a bunting to whom to fuse for money.

[NIKN]

What today? US shipbuilders glory day?

[viktor_ui]

You can giggle and smile intently ... but THIS, in all respects, is a machine from the 21st century ... we want it or not. We had a BORA - something similar in significance to its time. But that was a product from the USSR. Our sailors would certainly not poke him in the tail and mane if possible.

[Cyril G ...]

This is not close to a car from the 21st century. This is an alien from a different reality Pax Americana, where Russia, the EU and the PRC have already broken up into specific principalities, baronies, counties and khanates, and the mattresses have no other problem but to carry out police service in the coastal waters of all continents and control the natives, where the most the terrible thing is that a single ancient Su-24 bomber can meet with a pair of screwed anti-ship missiles, or coastal SPU of Chinese anti-ship missiles from the 80s. And so at most often a pair of T-55 tanks, jeeps, carts, motorboats, and even junks, or on the edge of a mine of model 1908.
So for a colonial gunboat such speed and what for is not needed. Especially with a pair of helicopters.

[viktor_ui]

your answer is similar to the answer of one chela from a resource that claimed that he would fill up the GANSHIP from a turret tank machine gun, for Hercules in such a configuration can only drive the Papuans ... THE ALIEN and this littoral trimaran = 21 CENTURY ... although someone like ... and Lada-Prior is the crown of design thought. They can argue inside themselves before shrinking .. they need it or not ... especially when it already is. Do you personally beat him at a speed of 47 knots at a trot along the waves, or will you send iron birds to catch up? Are there any other options? Yes, minus ministers ... TOAD definitely crushes

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: viktor_ui

Do you personally beat him at a speed of 47 knots at a trot along the waves, or will you send iron birds to catch up?

A plane with RCC will solve all conceivable problems with Independence, tea is not Burke.

[Dima 27]

I’ll support you +, for all the shortcomings of the ship, it is being built in a rather large series, we never dreamed of

[Kerensky]

So for a colonial gunboat such speed and what for is not needed. Especially with a pair of helicopters.

Soooo .. Confirm my thought. Speed ​​is needed to intercept the merchant discovered by the turntables. It is to intercept, not to drown. RCC - a threat, no more. And then what do we have? Right. An interceptor raider at key communications points. Add a couple of TAs and a couple of prize lots with the last stroke and the picture is clear.

[dauria]

but THIS, in all respects, is a machine from the 21st century ... whether we want it or not.

Eh hehe ... Even in the US Navy itself, the controversial attitude towards aluminum trimaran. And there are advantages and lacks. And with such a load of kg per horsepower, he does not swim - he must fly.

[Mountain shooter]

It looks futuristic! The described scheme (not complete), the speed is simply prohibitive. Something they wrote there that the ship was unsuccessful ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It looks futuristic! The described scheme (not complete), the speed is simply prohibitive. Something they wrote there that the ship was unsuccessful ..

For the sea eye, it looks unusual, certainly futuristic. There is no design beauty in it. Well, how it is done, the sea will show, maybe a successful model. I watched several videos about Austal, USA: Shipbuilding in Mobile, Alabama, a large corporation in the states and build in Australia. Honestly, without scoffs and unnecessary patriotism, they have good shipyards, they already take envy.

[garri-lin]

This is rather a series of concepts. To understand the prospects. Sampler with a swing in the middle of the 21st century. And the fact that so loving experience, even negative, is also recognized as unsuccessful.

[Escobar]

Well, yes, they will work out new solutions that will be introduced on serial ships in the future

[Andrey Krasnoyarsky]

The U.S. Navy includes another target for the Caliber rocket.

[Escobar]

Someone writing such pearls generally tried to estimate the number of caliber carriers (one frigate -22350 -16 pieces, three frigates 11356 3 * 8 = 24 pieces, two corvettes 20385 2 * 8 pieces and one ash-tree 40 pieces, a dozen micros with one UVP on 8 missiles, 80 percent of which, Buyan M, cannot direct missiles at sea targets and shoot only on land + 1 modernized Antey pr949 72 caliber and 7dep Warsaw with 4 calibers on board with the number of potential targets for them? As a result, 16 + 24 + 40 + 16 + 28 + 72 + 16 = 212 missiles for four fleets Even if in someone’s wet places one caliber is drowned by one aircraft carrier or the UDC is still not enough.

[Cyril G ...]

80 percent of which, Buyan M, cannot direct missiles at sea targets

This is not true. The Buyan-Ms can fire 3M54 anti-ship missiles with an external control unit.

[Avior]

External control centers do not lie on the road
They must first be provided
And for this, just knowing the target area is far from enough

[Cyril G ...]

Do you really think that Mytishchi will be able to use anti-ship missiles using their means of target detection?

[Avior]

Of course not. Only for stationary radio contrast targets.
And they were built for sea battle?
In fact, Mytishchi is Karakurt, not Buyan M, but the difference is not fundamental in this case.

[Cyril G ...]

I am aware of what Carracourt is, and I have an idea of ​​what kind of RES there are. And yes, with its RES, Karrakurt is able to detect a surface target beyond the horizon and carry out a volley. My remark refers primarily to the fact that such combat distances are unlikely.
Once again, Buyan-M is able to use anti-ship missiles 3M54, it is corny flashed in hardware, and it was written about the anti-ship missiles for marine purposes.

[Avior]

Can you tell us about the practice of using Mineral radar in a combat situation, or at least in exercises in a difficult jamming environment?
Do you know a joke about how likely it is to meet a dinosaur on the street?
50 percent, or you will meet or not.

[Cyril G ...]

I am not on this part.
However, I repeat - in the hardware and software Caliber on both types of RTOs, the use of 3M54 is prescribed. But PLUR and 3M55 are not.

[Escobar]

So the news about the western and write shipbuilding is radically different, they are launching over the hill, and about us they either plan, promise or move the drains

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Eskobar

over the hill they launch

And the fact that the lowered aircraft carriers are at a joke elementary due to the lack of specialists with the necessary qualifications is a trifle. It’s burned up - they push the blacks from the street into the hold - and Alga Dzhur Kettyk (full forward in Russian).

[tralflot1832]

Well, they know how to stamp warships. From the time of the 2nd world ferry they were imprisoned for military construction. This cannot be taken away from the Americans. But sometimes they please us with failed projects. But this is not easier for us.

[ordinary person_2]

They have enough ships of this class: https: //warspot.ru/17514-kansas-city-popolnil-zelyonyy-flot

[Looking for]

47 knots !!!!! ???? IT'S AN ERROR?

[Indifferent]

No, not a typo. It has 2 diesels and 2 turbines. Here turbines and disperse it. This is a trimaran and the area of ​​the entire hull is not very large. But on the other hand, the autonomy is only 14 days with such a huge size and, in fact, "dead" weapons. One puschka is not enough. SAM does not count. He also has a displacement of almost 3000 tons.

[Indifferent]

Poor Americans! Already an ordinary boat was launched into the water and this is called a landmark event. Apparently real epoch-making! Chopped to the level of an ordinary country.

[basal]

I do not quite understand what is the advantage of speed of 45 knots? If you need fast - ekranoplan no competitors. There are a lot of their problems, but I'm only about speed. In fact, I was taught that the speed of a surface ship is not limited by technology, but by noise. Why speed (by the way very modest) if acoustics hear you on the other side of the ocean? No wonder the maximum speed of ships (including submarines) is limited to 30 knots. Does technology not allow faster? Yes, quit.

[bk0010]

Quote: basal

I do not quite understand what is the advantage of speed of 45 knots?

To be in time everywhere. This is the mobile eye of the US Navy. He has nothing to fight, but he can see. And fast. If he finds something, then rockets will fly there, very very quickly. An alternative is the high-speed Arly Burke, which is very expensive.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: bk0010

To be in time everywhere.

For this, there are ship and coastal aviation and even drones of naval reconnaissance, similar to the fact that the Iranians failed

Yes, I am aware that this is a Global Hawk. Marine reconnaissance called Triton

[Kerensky]

In fact, I was taught that the speed of a surface ship is not limited by technology, but by noise. Why speed (by the way very modest) if acoustics hear you on the other side of the ocean?

A bear came out to the hunching mushroom picker and said: "Well, I heard, did you feel better?"
We had something for a long time. Emerald, Diamond, Horseman ..... Reminds me?

[yfast]

Slightly reminiscent of the cool ship of very dumb aliens from the same dumb patriotic movie "Battleship". All sailors will constantly write because of these water jets from the hull.

[koramax81]

Of course, I'm not an expert, but this boat doesn't look very good. If "beautiful" planes do not fly, then can "ugly" ships go on the seas?

[Dmitry Donskoy_2]

The plane in the ocean is the funniest.

[Job74]

Quote: indifferent

Poor Americans! Already an ordinary boat was launched into the water and this is called a landmark event. Apparently real epoch-making! Ground to the level of an ordinary country

The "ordinary" country has a dozen atomic 100-thousandth floating airfields, new seawulfs and virginias, dozens of Arleigh-Bjorks, each of which has a hundred missiles - shall we throw our hats? This fleet must be beaten with something and it must be taken care of today.

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: Cyril G ...

And what speed will give you such a fundamental, did not you try to think?
The main thing is you can’t get away from the plane. (c.)

do not forget about the rocket !!!

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: Job74

Quote: indifferent

Poor Americans! Already an ordinary boat was launched into the water and this is called a landmark event. Apparently real epoch-making! Ground to the level of an ordinary country

The "ordinary" country has a dozen atomic 100-thousandth floating airfields, new seawulfs and virginias, dozens of Arleigh-Bjorks, each of which has a hundred missiles - shall we throw our hats? This fleet must be beaten with something and it must be taken care of today.

and I’ll tell you, you don’t need 100 ships per 100 enemies, 100 missiles will be enough - cheap and cheerful, only a matter of accuracy. The entire AUG will rest from 3 to 5 missiles.

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: lvov_aleksey

Quote: Job74

Quote: indifferent

Poor Americans! Already an ordinary boat was launched into the water and this is called a landmark event. Apparently real epoch-making! Ground to the level of an ordinary country

The "ordinary" country has a dozen atomic 100-thousandth floating airfields, new seawulfs and virginias, dozens of Arleigh-Bjorks, each of which has a hundred missiles - shall we throw our hats? This fleet must be beaten with something and it must be taken care of today.

and I’ll tell you, you don’t need 100 ships per 100 enemies, 100 missiles will be enough - cheap and cheerful, only a matter of accuracy. The entire AUG will rest from 3 to 5 missiles.

ps I’ll explain for the incomprehensible, in AUG 2-3 main warblers, if they are destroyed ... all other SOS

[Job74]

Quote: lvov_aleksey

and I’ll tell you, you don’t need 100 ships per 100 enemies, 100 missiles will be enough - cheap and cheerful, only a matter of accuracy. The whole AUG will rest from 3 - 5 missiles

To get to the missile launch position, you still need to get to it. In Soviet times, submarine combat services were organized - because only submarines in our country could destroy the AUG - and there were a lot of them, but now? Secondly, the enemy also counteracts missiles, he is not going to be a fixed target as in Dullitt's "experiment". Ours are now betting on hypersound, but time goes by, the monopoly will not last forever, but we will have to build our own fleet if we want to mean something on the globe.