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In India, it is believed that the purchase of T-14 Armata tanks will provide an advantage over China

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In India, it is believed that the purchase of T-14 Armata tanks will provide an advantage over China

India continues to discuss possible aspects of strengthening the armed forces amid a border conflict with China. Recall that we are talking about a conflict in the Ladakh region, of which the PRC claims to be a part. Indian experts express their own opinions on how to gain an advantage over China in the region.


An article has been published in the IDN publication that states the need to strengthen not only by means of aviation and supersonic missiles (primarily BrahMos missiles), but also armored vehicles.

From the material:

Although the superiority of the T-90MS of the Indian armed forces over the Chinese tanks It was previously guaranteed that China's commissioning of newer Type 99A tanks and the offer of a number of advanced armored vehicles for Pakistan threaten to undermine India's advantage. In light of this, as well as the lack of effectiveness of the Arjun tank program, India has shown considerable interest in the next-generation Russian T-14 Armata tank. This tank is one of the three active platforms of the fourth generation of armored vehicles in the world.

The author notes that if the Russian T-14 Armata tank appears in the arsenal of Indian troops, this will give them an undeniable advantage over China. Thus, the possibility of conducting tank battles in the Ladakh region with its height differences from 2750 m above sea level in Kargil to 7672 m in Sasir Kangri is being seriously considered in India. The temperature in this region in northern India can range from -45 Celsius in winter to +37 in summer.

At the same time, IDN notes that the T-14 combines the entire spectrum of the latest technologies, including crew protection technologies.

From the material:

The tank is capable of hitting any armored vehicles, as well as ground fortifications and even low-flying aircraft.

At the same time, the author returns to reality, noting that so far the T-14 tanks in Russia "are too few produced, and therefore it is important for Russia to equip their own army with them in the first place."
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 26 June 2020 16: 17
    -8
    Especially if you get it for free.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 26 June 2020 16: 26
      -3
      will buy. and then China will look at them - and also buy for parity. The circuit works. Even if the order is changed
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 26 June 2020 16: 53
        +6
        Not in India they believe, but in one of the Indian media, one of the authors. But it is necessary that the Ministry of Defense of India would think so and approve it at the Ministry of Finance. Then the puzzle will develop. That's just to set real goals.
    2. Invoce
      Invoce 26 June 2020 16: 27
      +7
      Quote: Pereira
      Especially if you get it for free.

      Again, the Indians started dancing with a tambourine ... After 3 years they will sign a memorandum of intent, after another 2 years they will start demanding to transfer technology to them and organize the production of T-14 in India, then they will begin to munch it to reduce the price by 3 times, and then refuse the Contract and they will begin to blame our tank ... And in the end they will buy Leopard-2 or Leclerc ..
      Something like this ... Super reliable partner! But the arms market is promising
      1. Klingon
        Klingon 26 June 2020 16: 41
        0
        and they can be pinched by minke whales and bought by the brahmanas of used abrashek for a fabulous price wassat
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 26 June 2020 16: 45
          +2
          and have already bought a lot?
          1. Klingon
            Klingon 26 June 2020 16: 50
            0
            striped still just did not take firmly on the brahmanas, they only threatened with a finger and asked not to be naughty but not ..
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 26 June 2020 17: 41
              +4
              India pursues an independent policy and, despite concerns about US sanctions over the purchase of Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, also seeks to purchase some Kamov helicopter models and other weapons systems from Moscow. This, according to the newspaper The New Indian Express, at the end of a six-day visit to Russia, said Chief of the General Staff of the Indian Army, Lieutenant General Bipin Ravat.



              1. Klingon
                Klingon 26 June 2020 18: 43
                0
                it’s all good and good if it remains so, but the minke whales have not yet seriously imposed sanctions against India) but they can
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 26 June 2020 18: 07
        +3
        I'm afraid the current situation will not allow them to dance for long. And given the fact that their own "Arjun" came out frankly a failure, even more so. They needed tanks, planes and air defense systems only yesterday, and not three years later. If we are talking about the MiG - 29 from the presence of the MO, even if "shamanized", it means that the Indians were "not childish".
      3. bayard
        bayard 26 June 2020 19: 23
        +3
        Quote: Invoce
        Again Indians started dancing with a tambourine ...

        In light of the new conflict with China, dancing will be at a very fast pace. It’s not for nothing that the Minister of Their Defense personally came to the parade — to shop on a military basis, as good languages ​​are being broadcast ...
        And they ask to speed up the delivery of the S-400, and the urgent purchase of the MiG-29 with storage and modernization, and the new Su-30 vehicle kits, and the program for modernizing the entire Su-30 fleet to the Su-35 level, and even the purchase of the Su-35 ... the sticks of the Chinese have a beneficial effect on the flight of the military-technical thought of the soldiers of the "distant country" (translation of the name India).
        I think the issue of purchasing Su-57 will return. yes This is already being spoken about in all conversations.
        Quickly, efficiently and without unnecessary conditions can be purchased only from us. And now they felt it with special acuteness ... and pain. yes
        The Chinese beat them VERY painfully.
        bully
      4. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 26 June 2020 23: 09
        +1
        No, they will order a Leopard, and then they will buy T-90MS in batches in silence. With the same Rafal, they have been rushing for almost 20 years, but how many of our planes have bought during this time?
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 26 June 2020 16: 22
    +8
    Shuganuli Chinese, immediately remembered who the "greatest friend" in the field of weapons. And then this and that is not so ...
    1. Nemo
      Nemo 26 June 2020 22: 02
      0
      maybe this is Putin’s cunning plan?
  3. Lesorub
    Lesorub 26 June 2020 16: 26
    +5
    India shows significant interest in the next generation T-14 Armata Russian tank

    If T 14 will be sold abroad, then China will buy these tanks faster. ))) C - 400 is evidence of this - while the Indians thought to buy or not and what the striped partner whispers from across the ocean, China acquired the C 400 with a great lead.
    1. Stalllker
      Stalllker 26 June 2020 16: 45
      -2
      Well, what's stopping you from selling the T-14 to India ?! If it will be like with the T-90, then I am only FOR !!!
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 26 June 2020 18: 26
        +1
        Quote: Stalllker
        Well, what's stopping you from selling the T-14 to India ?!

        The political situation and the course towards rapprochement with China.
        And intellectually, we need to put both of these countries at the negotiating table and solve the whole thing peacefully. For BRICS - called!
        But.
        1. bar
          bar 26 June 2020 19: 55
          +3
          And wisely, we need to put both of these countries at the negotiating table

          Are you sure this is what we need? The principle of "divide and rule" has not been canceled. Even with regard to allies. For once, we have the opportunity to observe other people's graters from the side and not get into them, but use this to our advantage. This cannot be neglected.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 26 June 2020 21: 37
            +1
            Quote: bar
            And wisely, we need to put both of these countries at the negotiating table

            Are you sure this is what we need? The principle of "divide and rule" has not been canceled. Even with regard to allies. For once, we have the opportunity to observe other people's graters from the side and not get into them, but use this to our advantage. This cannot be neglected.

            And at the same time to observe how our equipment will work on both sides. And let them fight.
        2. Stalllker
          Stalllker 26 June 2020 21: 08
          0
          And why did your conclusions not prevent you from selling weapons to India before ??? Or did the course towards China only take shape last night ?!
        3. kytx
          kytx 26 June 2020 21: 12
          -1
          With all due respect.
          T14 is essentially still a crude layout.
          and our production for it in gross volumes is not ready at all.
          How to apply it on the battlefield - only general phrases with loud words such as "network-centric system", as I understand it, we are not really getting it right.
          IMHO T14 is a bold muddy and ambitious project.
          and he will be walk-through.
          you have to be more down to earth and more practical.
          otherwise it will not be according to "Senka hat"
          all IMHO.
          and T90 is a Hindu tank, and for them it was created
          1. bar
            bar 26 June 2020 21: 57
            +2
            T14 is essentially still a crude layout.
            and our production for it in gross volumes is not ready at all.

            The developers disagree with you. They declare that the "childhood diseases" of the Armata have been cured and it is ready for mass production. I tend to believe them more, they are more in the subject. As for the "gross volume", then a large order for a lot of money is needed for it. This gross volume will not arise by itself.
            1. kytx
              kytx 26 June 2020 23: 05
              0
              Well of course. All cured. And they put a 152mm gun. And the production line in Tagil has been globally modernized. And the allies also have everything on Fox.
              it’s one thing to knock out an experimental batch on the knee (manually setting the sun) another thing is circulation.
              1. bar
                bar 27 June 2020 08: 26
                +1
                it’s one thing to knock out an experimental batch on the knee (manually setting the sun) another thing is circulation.

                Once again, meddle. For the "circulation" you need bulk order, on the knee circulations are not practiced. The same thing with the production line, and with allies. Money is needed for equipment modernization; no one orders mass production equipment for experimental samples, and does not organize production.
                And just deliveries to the Indians could solve the problem with the circulation, and with everything else.
                1. kytx
                  kytx 28 June 2020 17: 49
                  0
                  Order from whom? From the Indians? Or all the same from the native MO? In the 90s, the plant survived as best it could, now the political situation is completely different.
                  this time
                  In t14, it’s not implemented for the sake of which everything was started
                  Two
                  With modularity is also not very clear. So far, apart from the schemes in AutoCAD, how could this be anything special? A bold idea, but no one has yet seen a finished line of equipment. There are no special secrets - the concept was announced immediately.
                  three



                  I am not against Almaty, I see the Russian Federation, this ambitious project does not pull.
                  1. bar
                    bar 29 June 2020 09: 32
                    +1
                    Order from whom? From the Indians? Or all the same from the native MO? In the 90s, the plant survived as best it could, now the political situation is completely different.

                    In the 90s, many factories survived exclusively on the orders of the same Indians. And the staff has been preserved, and many new developments have begun. I don’t see anything bad if even now Armati will be mass-produced using Indian money. The economic situation is not ice right now.
    2. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 26 June 2020 23: 13
      0
      the key point .. no one will sell the T-14 in the next 5-10 years most likely, since UVZ is promoting the Breakthrough ..
      1. kytx
        kytx 28 June 2020 18: 42
        0
        A breakthrough suits many. Why fence the garden? :)
        1. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 29 June 2020 21: 12
          0
          an attempt to eat a fish and don’t sit down ... get both modern tanks and ready-made technologies of an uninhabited tower and KAZ
  4. Masha
    Masha 26 June 2020 16: 36
    0
    At the same time, the author returns to reality, noting that so far the T-14 tanks in Russia “are too few produced, and therefore it is important for Russia to equip their own army with them first”

    Dreams Dreams .... and reality is reality ....
  5. vvvjak
    vvvjak 26 June 2020 16: 39
    +2
    From the Indians "zhor" woke up and C 400, and "Armor", and T 14. As in the joke: "Doctor, give me pills for greed and more, more."
  6. prior
    prior 26 June 2020 16: 46
    0
    No, fellow Indians.
    If you want to gain an advantage over China, then you do not need the Russian Armata, but the Ukrainian Oplot.
    Hahly praise him very much.
    For in any case, you will never get advantages over China.
    And graters with China are useless to us.
    1. bar
      bar 26 June 2020 19: 50
      +2
      What graters? When the Chinese supported Trump's sanctions against us, they were not afraid of grazing. Business, nothing personal.
    2. 1976AG
      1976AG 26 June 2020 21: 41
      +4
      Quote: prior
      No, fellow Indians.
      If you want to gain an advantage over China, then you do not need the Russian Armata, but the Ukrainian Oplot.
      Hahly praise him very much.
      For in any case, you will never get advantages over China.
      And graters with China are useless to us.

      Did we promise China not to sell weapons to India? Sorry, business is business.
  7. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 26 June 2020 16: 46
    +3
    Well, according to tradition, for complete happiness they still need to transfer production technologies at Indian enterprises
    1. Crash
      Crash 28 June 2020 15: 52
      0
      I took it straight from the tongue yes
  8. NF68
    NF68 26 June 2020 16: 47
    0
    First, they will dance for a long time, aging as much as possible to reduce the price. Then they will dance again and try to lower the price again. And there it will be seen.
    1. bar
      bar 26 June 2020 19: 47
      +1
      It seems they are no longer up to dancing, since they are so fussed.
  9. Ded_Mazay
    Ded_Mazay 26 June 2020 16: 52
    +2
    In India, it is believed that the purchase of T-14 tanks ...

    "Eat something he will eat, but who will give him" ...
  10. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 26 June 2020 17: 09
    -1
    Learning management. Through Chinese friends, they decided to influence the dancers. But without songs and dances it’s not Hindus, it’s not so interesting !!!
  11. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 26 June 2020 17: 35
    -1
    In India, it is believed that the purchase of T-14 Armata tanks will provide an advantage over China
    We are only for.
    But human stupidity is immense, especially in the absence of common sense. request In Tibet, arrange tank dueling or tank attacks. angry The Armata tank is good, not beautiful, but from its use in Tibet we will get anti-advertising. Yes, and the arms trade with India, and hence the relationship, we will undoubtedly fight. For they will use tanks in unsuitable conditions, and we will be the extreme ones, for the cries, "where is our superiority?" will fly in our direction.
    Yes, that case, and I want to, and pricks, and my mother does not order.
    I think the contract is useful to us, but besides various "military exports", "military experts" should also work. In terms of keeping the fools. Today they will buy Armata for GUARANTEED superiority, tomorrow MIGs and Su, and if the darling is in the blood, then the Indian officials sold to the United States will scream "we have long said Abrams and F-35"
    1. Crash
      Crash 28 June 2020 15: 55
      0
      If the trouble begins, then it’s not a fact that it will be limited to a gorge ... Pakistan also doesn’t doze off there.
      And the tank - he is also a tank in Africa
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 June 2020 17: 55
    +1
    A couple of dozen can be adjusted and see how he behaves in the real world of the database. And then, accordingly, to refine for yourself.
  13. Golovan
    Golovan 26 June 2020 18: 02
    +3
    In India, it is believed that the purchase of T-14 Armata tanks will provide an advantage over China

    Hindus roll up a lip ... Guessed a pancake. Almaty is not your level! negative
    Learn first the military art and tactics, and then already .. You have the majority of the poor in India .. And you are buying up the top all that glitters ..
    Maybe it is better that China cheat on you for soup and then start to think?
  14. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 26 June 2020 18: 36
    0
    If you want tanks, go ahead. And then we know these cunning Indians))
  15. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 26 June 2020 18: 36
    +1
    Quote: Golovan
    It might be better for China to cheat on you

    Nah, it won’t be better. The states will certainly put the Packs into the conflict ... and China will instigate a provocation (for a change, so to speak!) In the disputed island territories ...
    And both of these countries are our BRICS partners ... Who benefits from tearing at home? - Only to the enemy! Which is Uncle Sam.
    So what is needed according to our proverb: "Let's sit side by side, but let's talk in peace"
    AHA.
  16. bar
    bar 26 June 2020 19: 45
    +1
    The Hindus were very hot on the campaign. And they sharply needed the "shells", and the "armata" suddenly began to like it. The Chinese in India are great at promoting our technique laughing
  17. APASUS
    APASUS 26 June 2020 20: 22
    0
    When the Indians bake, they immediately become more accommodating, stop twisting their hands, look for flaws and the price tag suits them perfectly!
  18. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 27 June 2020 00: 02
    0
    So for ,, Armata ,, the landfill appeared.
  19. Stepych
    Stepych 27 June 2020 00: 22
    -1
    Yeah, Russia will sell them when the main electronic components come from China.
    China will stop supplying all. No T-14 tanks
    1. Kelwin
      Kelwin 27 June 2020 04: 50
      -2
      Quote: Stepych
      main electronic components come from China

      Well, not from China, but from Taiwan. and then, as Uncle Shoigu said, network components and displays. but we’ll replace them. Other Taiwanese) Or am I missing something?)
  20. poppy admiral
    poppy admiral 27 June 2020 01: 09
    +1
    you know, for starters, we would at least equip our own division with them.
  21. Rusticolus
    Rusticolus 27 June 2020 01: 49
    +1
    Thus, the possibility of conducting tank battles in the Ladakh region with its height differences from 2750 m above sea level in Kargil to 7672 m in Sasir Kangri is being seriously considered in India.
    What db .. a stupid person could do this. Is he really going to fight in tanks on the seven thousandth? Or will the Sherpas do this for the Indians? Or maybe the Indians forgot whose green boots indicate the mark of 8500? fool
  22. panov_panov
    panov_panov 27 June 2020 02: 55
    0
    Dear Indians, you are the equipment that you have in stock, learn how to service normally!
    1. Kelwin
      Kelwin 27 June 2020 04: 43
      -1
      Yes, they know how ...)))

      armature not for clowning did, kmk))
  23. the47th
    the47th 29 June 2020 19: 23
    0
    And the truth is, why buy an affordable and well-proven tank if you can buy something really innovative, which, however, is not known when it will be delivered in the right volumes, which no one can operate and repair, and which does not know how it will behave in battle.
    Very often, recently, states have been buying equipment that they will not use in battle in any way, because it is expensive and pathetic, instead of buying what will be really useful.
    Although, this is their business.