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How "Free" is US Assistance: Polish Media on the Delivery of Hercules Aircraft

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The Polish Air Force is preparing for the arrival of five military transport aircraft C-130H Hercules under the EDA program, which provides for the "free" transfer to the Allied countries of materiel from US surplus. However, these vehicles are not much younger than those already armed with five C-130Es, who still remember the Vietnam War.


It was decided to transfer the "new" Hercules from the storage base in Tucson, Arizona. It hosts more than 60 C-130H aircraft, from which you will have to choose. In this case, it is necessary to cover the costs of repair and transportation to the recipient. Under these items, $ 60 million will be spent on each machine. At the same time, the cost of the new C-130 is estimated at $ 160 million.

It should be borne in mind that the C-130H began serving in the US Air Force in 1974 and was produced until 1996, when the C-130J Super Hercules appeared. Despite the fact that their release was discontinued only in the mid-90s, they are at the technological level of the late 70s. In this regard, the aircraft acquired by Warsaw will require modernization. As the Polish edition of Defense24 points out, first of all, the improvement should concern avionics and the power plant.

US-serving C-130Hs underwent modernization through the introduction of a new avionics package worth about $ 2,84 million per copy, including installation. Replacing the engine with a Rolls-Royce T-56 Series 3.5 will cost no less than $ 1,5 million apiece, a set of NP2000 screws about $ 2 million, updating the drive about $ 8 million, installing a modern system warning and protection against guided missiles - from 1,5 to 4 million dollars. At the same time, these calculations are quite superficial, since the sums mentioned concerned large orders for the listed products.

Maybe then the Polish troops will still receive aircraft carriers and submarines from the surplus of the US Army, remembering the Vietnam War, and all this for $ 15,6 billion.

- offers one of the readers with sarcasm.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 26 June 2020 06: 12 New
    16
    Be afraid arrogant saxons Danes ... shit bringing gifts.
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 26 June 2020 12: 55 New
      +1
      Fear the arrogant Saxons of Danians ... shit bringing gifts

      In the same way, the United States "helps" Ukraine ...
      - They gave her "help" (CREDIT !!!) - for 250 lemons bucks
      And then they SELLED (!!!) to them their old (recyclable) coast guard boats
      - ON THE AMOUNT (attention! ...) - 600 (six hundred) bucks lemons.

      And nothing - just BUSINESS.

      Really "svidomye" still do not understand that ANY "shepherd" takes care of his herd
      just to make this herd - CUT !!!
      8-))
      - Well, Uncle Sam - those illiterate "Svidomo" - and shears.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 26 June 2020 06: 48 New
    16
    For the CARDINAL, the haberdasher is a sucker, initially and FOREVER!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 26 June 2020 07: 01 New
      +6
      Quote: rocket757
      For the CARDINAL, the haberdasher is a sucker, initially and FOREVER!

      Forced! Do you want friendship ----- rub up on old stuff! So they need it!
      Good morning, Victor! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 June 2020 07: 15 New
        +3
        Good morning, Dmitriy soldier
        the haberdasher never recognizes that he is for the cardinal ... but this does not change the essence.
        their own choice.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 26 June 2020 07: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          Good morning, Dmitriy soldier
          the haberdasher never admits that he is for the cardinal ....
          deep down ---- the haberdasher knows the truth, in the Polish sense negative pan laughing
          wassat here is bewilderment fool you said
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 26 June 2020 08: 10 New
            +2
            Illusions dispel ... but not always request
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 26 June 2020 08: 15 New
              +2
              Quote: rocket757
              Illusions dispel ... but not always request

              Yes, of course! It’s much more pleasant to think that an overseas friend simply respects am Polish pan!
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 26 June 2020 08: 43 New
                +1
                In, in, some want to live in their illusions ... it's forever.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 26 June 2020 09: 09 New
                  +1
                  Quote: rocket757
                  In, in, some want to live in their illusions ... it's forever.

                  Although, not only Psheks .... those who destroyed the USSR thought that they would then be on equal terms with foreign ones, that they would be directly respected .... And they were respected only as representatives of the USSR, a great country! That's what! It can be seen, as in declassified telephone conversations, Clinton, squeezed Yeltsin in his favor!
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 26 June 2020 09: 50 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    And they were respected only as

                    They just wanted to tear them away from the USSR, destroy the geopolitical enemy ... about respect, personal, there was NO talk! Tales of a white bull ... they got the result and still will.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 26 June 2020 10: 26 New
                      +1
                      Quote: rocket757
                      ...... about respect, personal, there was NO talk! ......
                      that the old traitors, that the present present themselves as great negative
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 26 June 2020 10: 46 New
                        0
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        former traitors that the present present themselves as great

                        traitors do not like ANYWHERE ... so they draw themselves a beautiful story. And since they do not suffer from the greatness of the mind, it turns out bullshit, cheap stuff. They get together in a heap and sing to themselves, to others the same praises .... but the essence of this does not change the attitude towards them. The big boss despises them, which is clearly visible as he tramples on them, not noticing that he is squealing under his foot.
                      2. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 26 June 2020 11: 46 New
                        +1
                        Quote: rocket757
                        ..... The big boss despises them, which is clearly visible as he tramples on them, not noticing that he is squealing under his foot.
                        I can’t wait for him to ruin and trample them! Are they really going to continue lysopopia? negative
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 26 June 2020 11: 53 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Are they really going to continue lysopopia?

                        And the choice of these is not very big .... they will be flattened and further flattened.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 June 2020 06: 53 New
    +3
    It is cheaper for mericatos to sell this stuff (all the more for grandmas!) Than to dispose of it. Although, recycling also involves some cutting dough. Now, let the pain in the head of Pshechna hurt where to sprinkle this present))! laughing
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 June 2020 07: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      Although, recycling also involves some cutting dough.

      When building a new product, they saw the "loot", even when disposing of the product, they also saw the "loot". Democracy in the framework of capitalism.
  • Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 26 June 2020 06: 53 New
    +6
    Yes, take it - it's for nothing! yes Well, repair a little, still vilify ... Yes, you do not look that old! Why do you need to spend money on a new one .... winked I'd rather give you than throw it away ... wassat laughing
    Sarcasm repeat
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 26 June 2020 07: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Yes, take it - it's for nothing! yes . winked I'd rather give you than throw it away ... wassat laughing Sarcasm repeat
      class! But for now, the estimates are approximate! And what will happen when they begin to clarify? As usual with any repair happens? It always turns out that costs are increasing am
      Perhaps at times!
  • Machete
    Machete 26 June 2020 07: 00 New
    +7
    If you still have to choose from everything, it means that this stuff is already full.
    And to spend 60 lyam per garbage is what it is. 300 million greens in the trash is cool. Americans know their business well.
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  • Poetry
    Poetry 26 June 2020 07: 05 New
    +1
    Take away the fit. Throw away anyway.
  • knn54
    knn54 26 June 2020 07: 14 New
    +3
    I repeat, NATO was created. First of all, to support the US military-industrial complex.
  • Tatyana Sementsova
    Tatyana Sementsova 26 June 2020 07: 15 New
    +1
    This piece of rusty metal, after careful processing with a file and sandpaper, may look like a plane !!!! We will sell you files and paper! (Not expensive). wassat a bucket of paint as a bonus!
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 June 2020 07: 17 New
    +1
    Let them take junk at the price of almost new. We are neither cold nor hot.
  • Skai
    Skai 26 June 2020 07: 17 New
    +3
    and as the first trough from this "bastard" falls - so Russian hackers or who else will be to blame yes
  • Avior
    Avior 26 June 2020 07: 21 New
    10
    Unfortunately, experience shows that such articles need to be checked immediately.
    We look at the original
    https://www.defence24.pl/polskie-herculesy-naprawde-beda-nowe-analiza
    And the first thing that catches your eye is that the original 60 million is for all 5, and not every one.
    Secondly, the aircraft are doing the modernization exactly the same as the Americans do for the planes of their Air Force - very cardinal - new engines, special propellers, modern Avionics, protection systems
    And the Poles will pay 5 million for 60 very modern aircraft instead of 800 million for new ones.
    But even these 60 million for the modernization of 5 airplanes in an article are estimated very cheaply, since the simple repair of 5 Polish airplanes had previously cost more than 98 ml.
    They write that such a huge benefit is obtained, since the Americans Rolls-Royce sells the latest engines with a big discount at wholesale 1.5 million instead of 2.5 million at retail.
    So it’s unlikely that the Poles lost their grip with these planes.
    1. ZAV69
      ZAV69 26 June 2020 07: 47 New
      0
      And what the hell do they need it? What and where to carry? You’ll drive through all of Pshekia in 4 hours by car, and then planes capable of flying across the ocean
      1. Eugene-Eugene
        26 June 2020 08: 49 New
        +1
        The current C-130E Poles are constantly driving to Afghanistan, as a result of their resource only 10 years is enough
  • svp67
    svp67 26 June 2020 09: 08 New
    +2
    And well done Americans, instead of spending money on storage and disposal, they also earn on "gifts" ... "Torgash" he is a "trader"
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 26 June 2020 09: 26 New
    +2
    Yes, when you see such a post, you immediately feel that some Anonymous is bred.
    It would not be profitable - they would not buy.

    Everyone makes fun, and then someone, like "Avior (Sergey)" checks against reality, and it’s not fun anymore ..
  • Brturin
    Brturin 26 June 2020 12: 15 New
    -1
    At the same time, the cost of the new C-130 is estimated at $ 160 million.

    New Zealand acquires five new C-130Js, as they say for $ 1 billion. Friendship with the Poles is of course, but you can’t erase the economy from it ... whatever calculations are (and no matter how they are justified), it’s always better to take a new than "used", but it can be seen an eye and a wallet .... The question is how many Poles are ready to invest in this "friendship", Trump will have to pay for everything ....
    Almost 60 percent of Poles support an increase in US military presence. Such a survey, ordered by RMF FM and Gazeta Prawna ... A completely different view from the Poles when it comes to financing the soft American occupation of Poland. Only 0,9% of those polled called for Poland to independently finance the presence of American troops in the country.
    https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/06/23/60-polyakov-podderzhali-narashchivanie-voennogo-potenciala-ssha-no-s-odnim-no
  • Misha_an26
    Misha_an26 26 June 2020 17: 35 New
    +1
    In preference, there is also the term "American aid." Who played knows. In my opinion, this is also from there.
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 26 June 2020 18: 13 New
    0
    Engines of 1,5 million bucks - somehow very cheap? Where does it come from? In general, having friends such as mattresses - enemies are no longer needed. Banderland was already convinced of this in his own skin, psheki on the way.