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The great helmsman did not forgive us for this ...

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The great helmsman did not forgive us for this ...

Hello, comrades Elizarovs



Young Jiang Jinggo, the future head of the Kuomintang party and the President of the Republic of China in Taiwan, was sent by his own father to study and work in the USSR in the late 1920s. And the father of the Chinese comrade was none other than Chiang Kai-shek, whose name should sound like Jiang Tsheshi. He himself preferred to call himself Zhongzheng, which means a just person who managed to choose a middle ground.

Chiang Kai-shek, who in the future became the generalissimo and almost sovereign master of China, did not hesitate to call the "big three" members: Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill. But in the 20s he was only the chief of staff of the main Chinese revolutionary Sun Yat-sen. Chan sent his son to the USSR in the wake of the strengthening relations between the two revolutionary powers.


At the end of an accelerated course of study at the Communist University of the East. Stalin in Moscow, Jiang Jingo in 1931, at the height of collectivization, became chairman of the collective farm in the Lukhovitsky district of the Moscow Region. In the villages of Big Zhokovo and Korovino, he was known under the pseudonym Nikolai Vladimirovich Elizarov.

He borrowed the Russian name and surname from Anna Ilyinichna Ulyanova-Elizarova, the elder sister of Lenin, whom he lived for some time after arriving in the USSR. Already in 1933, Nikolai Elizarov became the Komsomol of the Uralmashzavod them. Stalin in Sverdlovsk, where he met with 17-year-old Faina Vakhreva.

They were married in 1935, but almost all of their life together, truly unique, more like a novel or a television series, took place not in the USSR, but in "other" China - on the island of Taiwan. There, on a distant island, as in the foreign Chinese diaspora, Faina was called "Madame Jiang Fanlyan": the hieroglyph "fan" means "honest," and "liang" means "virtuous." This name was given to her by the father-in-law, the legendary Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek, back in 1938.

Few people know why and why in the Soviet Union they “classified” the biography of Faina Ipatievna Vakhreva and her husband, President of the Republic of China in Taiwan from 1978 to 1988, Jiang Jinggo. At the same time, they sent all the information about their friends, relatives and acquaintances under the heading “Top Secret”.


Faina, the future Jiang Fanlyan, was born in 1916 in Yekaterinburg into a Belarusian family, who was evacuated from Minsk to the Urals during the First World War. Faina very early, in the mid-1920s, lost her parents. Her father at one time worked at the Yekaterinburg Machine-Building Plant - the future of Uralmash.

In 1991, Faina Vakhreva told Taiwanese and local Russian-speaking journalists:

I worked as a turner at Uralmashzavod in Sverdlovsk, and my future husband was a Komsomol organizer and editor of a factory newspaper there. He was fluent in Russian. In the mid-1930s, the Comintern and the Central Committee of the CPSU (B.) Planned the removal from power in China of Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek, the father of my husband, and Jiang Jingo was previously included in the new, communist leadership of China. Officially announced a break with his father.
All our contacts with the outside world were placed under the control of the NKVD. Since then, I do not know anything about the friends and acquaintances of my parents who remained in Belarus and Sverdlovsk, and about the people dear to me and my husband ...

After Japan’s repeated attack on China in 1937, the Kremlin changed its plan to remove Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek. Jiang Jingo was advised to apologize to his father, return to China and help create a joint anti-Japanese front with the Chinese Communists.

This was done shortly before the start of World War II, which was actually unfolding on Chinese soil. And in 1937, the USSR signed a treaty of friendship and non-aggression with China, rendering him all kinds of assistance even during the years of World War II. For such a policy, the USSR was repeatedly thanked by Chiang Kai-shek and the leader of the Chinese Communists, Mao Zedong.

We just have common enemies ...


China did not remain in debt: in July 1943, by decision of the Chinese leadership, three batches of electric power equipment from the United States, destined for the country under Lend-Lease, were redirected to the USSR. As Chiang Kai-shek stated, "in connection with the enormous needs of the defense and rear of the USSR."

This is especially noted in the memoirs (1956) of the head of the American Lend-Lease Committee, and subsequently US Secretary of State Edward Stettinius:

The third Lend-Lease program is related to the generation of electricity for Soviet military factories in the Trans-Urals and in the areas devastated by the Germans that were conquered by the Red Army today. This program began with three powerful generators manufactured here for China, but the Chinese allowed in 1943 to transfer them to Russia.

Then, in his diary, Jiang Jinggo noted:

Faina sometimes talks about Belarus, Russia. I have the impression that both the Chinese and the Eastern Slavs want to preserve their own traditions and foundations, but this is hindered by ideological sluggishness and political barriers.
Nevertheless, my father understood that it was Stalin who did not allow Mao Zedong to seize Taiwan in 1949-50, although there were no US troops here in the Taiwan Strait until June 1950 inclusively. Moscow even objected to the capture by Beijing of small islands controlled by Taiwan near the PRC. These facts affected the attitude of the Generalissimo to Stalin and Russia.


It seems that the Taiwan authorities' retaliation was Washington’s refusal to participate in the war in Korea by the Taiwanese forces and to strike from the Taiwanese bases with the US Navy and Air Force in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. Although Taipei has always provided military-technical assistance to pro-American South Vietnam. And at the same time, Taipei supported and supports Beijing in matters of Chinese sovereignty on most of the islands of the South China Sea, however, speaking out for their “distribution” between Taiwan and China.

But Washington did not trust Nikolay Elizarov, reasonably believing that its politically “pro-Soviet roots” and commitment — like Mao Zedong and Chiang Kai-shek — the concepts of a united China would make it difficult for Taiwan to become an unsinkable US aircraft carrier.

During the visit of the "unofficial" Taiwanese delegation led by Jiang Jingguo to San Francisco in 1983, an attempt was made on high Taiwanese guests. A fragmentation grenade was thrown into the motorcade, but the explosion was late due to the fast speed of the vehicles. No one was hurt, and the terrorists seemed to have been helped to escape.

The latter is not surprising, since the terrorist “Formosa Liberation League”, which has existed to this day, has claimed responsibility for the attack. Recall Formosa - the Portuguese name of Taiwan during its tenure by Portugal in the XVII-XVIII centuries.

The league settled in the United States in the early 1960s and advocates the complete separation of Taiwan from China. Repeated protests by Chiang Kai-shek and Jiang Jingo about the presence of this group in the United States Washington left unanswered. Americans also react to modern protests in Taipei on the same issue.

Special Relationships


Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek, who has been in charge of Taiwan since November 1949 with a number of adjoining miniature islands, including off the coast of China, was a co-organizer of the World Anti-Communist League in 1966, in 1954, in XNUMX g. (together with South Korea) - "Anti-Communist League of Asian Peoples."


However, he still retained a special attitude towards the Russians. Remembering, of course, Soviet aid to China during the long Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945) and Moscow’s containment of Beijing’s plans to seize Taiwan. In particular, Chiang Kai-shek in the same 1950 allowed emigrants from Russia-the USSR who lived in Japan, Korea, Indochina and mainland China to live and work in Taiwan.

About 25 thousand Russian-speaking citizens of Taiwan, the descendants of the Russian diaspora of Harbin, Shanghai and Saigon, still live on the island. And Russian language and literature has been studied at four Taiwanese universities since the early 1950s. For three decades, the Far Eastern Russian-language editorial office of Radio Liberty has been working in Taiwan, and since 1968 the still official radio station of the Republic of China in Taiwan has been broadcasting along with other languages ​​in Russian.

In the context of current realities, it is characteristic that the generalissimo was simply shocked by the notorious Soviet-Japanese declaration of October 19, 1956 on the possible transfer to Japan of the two South Kuril islands: Shikotan and Habomai. He declared at the end of October 1956:

No one expected Soviet support for Japan’s plans to revise the post-war borders. That declaration will encourage Japan in its territorial claims to China and other countries. And if this is condoned in the Kremlin after Stalin, I have nothing more to say.





Chiang Kai-shek had in mind primarily the Chinese and Korean islands — respectively, Diaoyu-dao (Japanese Senkaku) and Tokto (Japanese Takeshima), located on strategic straits between the East Asian seas and the Pacific Ocean. These claims in Tokyo began to be put forward precisely after the Soviet-Japanese declaration, and more actively - from the mid-1960s.

As you know, Japanese politicians have made such claims with enviable regularity to this day. But a characteristic detail: despite the most complicated relations between Beijing and Taipei and Pyongyang with Seoul, they, we emphasize, are united in opposing Japanese claims. And they are ready to jointly defend the territorial integrity of China and Korea, which Japan is regularly convinced of.

But Moscow planned to overthrow Mao and his entourage even with the help of Taiwan. The Chinese Prime Minister Zhou Enlai at the talks with the Romanian leader N. Ceausescu in Beijing in July 1971 stated that “the USSR wants to get in touch even with Taiwan in order to try with it and, therefore, with the USA to overthrow the Leninist-Stalinist leadership of our party and country , avenge us for our obstinacy. "


Victor Louis is a journalist and special agent. In the photo - with the leader of the Chilean communists, Luis Corvalan

Such a statement was not at all unfounded: as the prime minister explained, “on the initiative of Moscow, the long-standing KGB emissary for special assignments Vitaly Levin (pseudonym Victor Louis) met in October 1968 with the leadership of the Kuomintang Defense and Intelligence Directorate, a new meeting was held in Taiwan in March 1969, then in Vienna in October 1970. Apparently, there were other meetings. He arrived in Taiwan via Tokyo or British Hong Kong.

Everything is calm in Beijing


It was a change of leadership in Beijing, which would accelerate, as suggested by Victor Louis, with the simultaneous escalation of military clashes by Taiwan in the Taiwan Strait or on the coast of China adjacent to Taiwan. Moreover, almost all the islands off this part of the coast of China belonged and still belong to Taiwan.

And the head of the Taiwanese delegation at these meetings was Nikolai Elizarov, head of Taiwanese intelligence at that time: it was he who appropriated W. Louis the code name Wang Ping. On the Soviet side, Andropov personally oversaw these contacts, while on the Taipei side, the then head of the state news agency, Wei Jingmen. In 1995, his recollections of these contacts were published in Taipei in Chinese and English ("Soviet Secret Agent in Taiwan").

Here is what it says about the first meeting, with the participation of Nikolai Elizarov - Jiang Jingo on October 25, 1968:

We first talked to him about being ashamed of Mao’s gang. Speaking about the PRC, Louis noted: "The era of dictatorships has passed, Stalin has died, Mao Zedong also does not have long, and besides, he has already lost his mind." To the question: “What do you think of Taiwan?” Louis said that “although Taiwan is only developing, it has far surpassed Japan. You Taiwanese Chinese are very smart, polite. ” And he hinted that "you know how to look forward."

Is it necessary to explain that Chiang Kai-shek’s consent to contacts with the emissary of Andropov was meant? Further meetings were already more substantive. That is, the essence of Levin’s remarks was that Mao had gone too far, so let's forget the feud and find a way to overthrow him and his entourage. It will be in the interests of the United States. So if you decide to "return to the mainland," we will not bother you. And, probably, we will help.

Victor Louis went so far as to offer cooperation with the USSR and India in helping the Tibetan separatists to pressure Beijing: today in India, since the mid-50s, there is a "Tibetan government in exile." But representatives of Taiwan, condemning the "Maoization" of Tibet, invariably declared their commitment to the unity of China.

The Taiwanese interlocutors understood that even the successful joint operation of Taipei and Moscow in the PRC would probably lead to the removal of the Kuomintang from power in new China. For the Kuomintang a priori will not be a puppet of Moscow. The United States will also be interested in the removal of the Kuomintang, because the Kuomintang and especially Chiang Kai-shek himself were not trivial puppets of the United States. Moreover, they will not be so in the new China.

Confirmation of such forecasts by the Taiwanese comrades was, first of all, that Nikolai Elizarov, as a sign of proof of Moscow’s “sincere” intentions, proposed, moreover, at the suggestion of Chiang Kai-shek, to denounce the mutual assistance agreement between the USSR and China (1950).

But Levin dodged the answer, appealing to the optionalness of such a step, but begging the interlocutors for information about Taipei's military or intelligence plans regarding Beijing. Moreover, the disclosure of similar Soviet plans was not, of course, out of the question, which convinced the representatives of Taiwan of the dangerous situation for the whole of China in the Soviet proposals.

At the same time, V. Louis strongly rejected all requests of V. Louis regarding a meeting with the Generalissimo himself, reasonably suspecting Moscow of the desire to politically discredit Chiang Kai-shek at the right time by the very fact of such a meeting. In a word, the parties failed to agree. This was most likely due to the policy of the United States, Taiwan’s main ally, towards the gradual normalization of relations with Beijing after the well-known conflict with the USSR on Damansky Island in March 1969.

As for his Kremlin counterpart, Victor Louis said that after Khrushchev’s removal, he often met with Yuri Andropov, who was appointed the new head of the KGB on May 17, 1967, and carried out a number of his instructions abroad. Many sources mention Andropov’s long-standing contacts with V. Louis, including the Major General of the former KGB, Vyacheslav Kevorkov. According to him, "the head of the KGB, Yu. V. Andropov, forbade in any way to formalize the relations of the KGB with Victor Louis and even to issue secret documents about this cooperation."

Since 1969, Taiwanese intelligence has been informing Beijing of meetings with W. Louis, but the Beijing "colleagues" of Taipei respected the request of the Taiwanese partners for the confidentiality of the information they transmit. In addition, according to a number of data, Beijing-Taiwan meetings were held on the same issues in 1970 and 1971, held in Portuguese Aomin (since 2001, the Autonomous Region of the PRC). And through Macau at the turn of the 60s and 70s, “unofficial” trade was established between China and Taiwan.


And in Moscow, for some reason, they ruled out the possibility of a regular leak of information from Taiwan about these contacts, naively believing that such an option is impossible due to the intransigence of Taipei and Beijing. As a result, relations between the USSR and the PRC deteriorated even more, and Mao, in gratitude to Chiang Kai-shek, ordered in 1972 to release more than 500 Taiwanese ex-agents from prison. The same thing was done in Taiwan in 1973 with two hundred arrested agents of the PRC.

On April 5, 1975, Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek died. And in the USSR, they did not refute the project of the overthrow, together with Taiwan, of the Mao Zedun leadership. Although a number of Soviet media gloated over the amnesty of Taiwanese intelligence agents in the PRC, the real reasons for such a move by Beijing, of course, were not mentioned ...
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  1. Far B
    Far B 26 June 2020 05: 33 New
    +2
    What nonsense ?! In the USSR, the stake was made just unambiguous: under Sun Yat-sen on the Kuomintang, because it was anti-imperialist and Sun himself, sobsna, was a leftist. But then came Chiang Kai-shek, who headed for nationalism, and Mao, the communists, appeared. Naturally, the USSR sharply distanced itself from contacts with nationalists. The relationship between Tea and Mao is best read in the book "A Special Region of China" by the great Russian heavyweight Vlasov. And then, first, Khrushchev, then, at his serve, and Mao, finally, they all trampled down in guano. Skillful - easy, do not believe me - ask the labeled
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 26 June 2020 07: 55 New
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      Quote: Far In
      It is better to read about the relationship between Tea and Mao in the book "A Special Region of China" by the great Russian heavyweight Vlasov. And then, first, Khrushchev, then, upon its submission, and Mao, finally everyone in the guano trampled. Skillful - easy, do not believe me - ask the labeled

      Right yes
      The publication is certainly interesting and informative, but it showed only one, an early aspect of the brewing contradictions between China and the USSR, and deeper contradictions ripened in the subsequent, "post-Stalin"period ...
      1. Far B
        Far B 26 June 2020 08: 45 New
        +5
        As if everything is simple and complicated at the same time. Mao revered (but did not revere, as many believe) Grandfather Soso. But our grandfather Soso was really worthy of respect. And then Kuz'kin's mother came and destroyed everything. That is, in general, everything. Economy - abandonment of the Great Plan for the transformation of nature, nationalization of everything and everything, plowing up virgin lands ... Domestic politics - a ban on party affairs, foreign politics - for a short time ... I'm with the same China, Albania, ... In short, Khrushchev for the report at the Twentieth Congress of the CPSU it was already possible to hang for walnuts (well, they do not pull on coconuts). bald
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 26 June 2020 08: 47 New
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          Quote: Far In
          In short, it was already possible to suspend a khrusha for a report at the Twentieth Congress of the CPSU for hanging walnuts (well, they don’t pull on coconuts).

          At that time, there was no one to do this. Everything was turned upside down. Sick head.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 26 June 2020 09: 56 New
          +5
          Quote: Far In
          Mao revered (but did not revere, as many believe) Grandfather Soso.

          And who would Mao be without Uncle Joe, and what would happen to China.
          1. Far B
            Far B 26 June 2020 10: 00 New
            +3
            There would be no one, and there would be no way to call him. At the same time, Suna would not exist without the USSR either b.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 26 June 2020 10: 18 New
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              Quote: Far In
              At the same time, Suna would not exist without the USSR either b.

              Everything is just like that.
      2. Civil
        Civil 26 June 2020 09: 16 New
        +3
        75 years after the war ... there is something to compare China - the first economy in the world. The USA is the second economy in the world.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 26 June 2020 09: 21 New
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          Quote: Civil
          The USA is the second economy in the world.

          How to say...

          And if you knock out the crutch of the dollar from under this economy (I mean, eliminate the possibility of manipulation / fraud by the Fed with it)? ? ?
          1. Far B
            Far B 26 June 2020 09: 49 New
            +4
            Why are you so with them? (Puff-puff "Tube") 70% of the economy is the service sector, including jurisprudence, psychoanalysis, in short, censorship. They will collapse
          2. Civil
            Civil 26 June 2020 10: 25 New
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            Quote: Insurgent
            And if you knock out the crutch of the dollar from under this economy (I mean, eliminate the possibility of manipulation / fraud by the Fed with it)? ? ?

            We have what we have, the place and level of Germany is especially unpleasant ...
          3. snake
            snake 26 June 2020 13: 10 New
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            Quote: Insurgent
            Quote: Civil
            The USA is the second economy in the world.

            How to say...

            А if to knock out the crutch of the dollar from under this economy (I mean to eliminate the possibility of manipulation / fraud by the Fed with it)? ? ?

            If a.
          4. tech3030
            tech3030 26 June 2020 18: 15 New
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            I would like to ! But here is a site where people simply pronounce themselves and we will not be able to influence the situation in the country (Russia) and a number of friendly states. Although the absolute majority in this and not only in this opinion is the same!
      3. Looking for
        Looking for 26 June 2020 16: 30 New
        +1
        The article is about not only the late post-Stalinist period, but also the post-Khrushchev period.
    2. Doctor
      Doctor 26 June 2020 08: 48 New
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      But then came Chiang Kai-shek, who headed for nationalism, and Mao, the communists, appeared. Naturally, the USSR sharply distanced itself from contacts with nationalists.

      Not certainly in that way. There was no distance, they worked with all anti-Japanese.
      1. Far B
        Far B 26 June 2020 09: 01 New
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        There was a distance. Help volumes are different
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 26 June 2020 09: 20 New
          +1
          There was a distance. Help volumes are different

          It is natural. First of all, the managed Comintern Communist Project was funded.
          One of the CCP's founding fathers, Zhao Shiyan, is a graduate of the Chinese Communist University of Workers in Moscow.

          1. Far B
            Far B 26 June 2020 09: 30 New
            +3
            Mao was never controlled, didn't you know? He was truly a leader, albeit absolutely reckless. His answer to the replica of Palmiro Tolyatti, they say, in the event of a nuclear war in Italy, simply will not remain - so what if, in the end, the Communists win everywhere, everywhere, to hell with that Italy? So I.V. did not value him for controllability. Perhaps quite the opposite.
            1. Doctor
              Doctor 26 June 2020 10: 01 New
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              Mao was never controlled, didn't you know?

              Mao was not the founder of the CCP. He, rather, "Chinese Stalin", who joined the first Communists later and seized power.
              And Chen Duxi can be considered the "founder" of the CCP



              Which at the First Congress of the CCP (Shanghai July 23.07 - August 5.08, 1921) was elected the first general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party.

              Comrades Maring and Nikolsky were the "staring" from the Comintern at the congress.

              Maring (Hendrickus Josefus Franciscus Marie Snevlit, Dutchman, where without them wink )



              Nikolsky (Vladimir Abramovich Neumann, and without them even more so laughing )



              As soon as Comrade Chen tried to pry against the Comintern, such as we would be independent, he was immediately expelled from the CCP.
              Subsequently turned into "Chinese Trotsky", but died his death (unlike Comrade Nikolsky winked ).
              1. Far B
                Far B 26 June 2020 10: 07 New
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                Stop. Where did I say that Mao was the founder? Anticipating - I am very critical of Mao, too oriental dude to all problems.
                1. Doctor
                  Doctor 26 June 2020 10: 11 New
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                  Stop. Where did I say that Mao was the founder?

                  I mean, the founders of the CCP were “born”, brought up and improved in Moscow.
                  And so they were controlled figures.
                  Mao is a product of China to be reckoned with. Just like with Chiang Kai-shek.
                  1. Far B
                    Far B 26 June 2020 11: 22 New
                    +1
                    Yes, Christmas trees. He explained as if Mao had never been a controlled figure. He worshiped Stalin as a teacher, this is eastern psychology. But he didn’t set anyone else, and this showed a conflict with a corn-grower. I can’t say that Stalin saw in Mao his successor as the leader of the world proletariat (God forbid, as for me, but from the point of view of the international, why not? Please do not execute mnu from shit, this is just one of thoughts), however, to say that Mao was a guided figure ... Perhaps, but only at the first stage. Already at the time of the diaries that formed the basis of the "special area" he was completely uncontrollable. And he was restrained solely by respect for our grandfather Soso.
                    1. Doctor
                      Doctor 26 June 2020 12: 17 New
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                      Yes, Christmas trees. He explained it seems that Mao was never a controlled figure

                      I also agree with this, I say, he did not go through the school of the Comintern and was quite independent, especially by the 40s, he transmitted the code to all the Cominterns.
                      Therefore, in Moscow they did not particularly trust him and made a bet, including on Chiang Kai-shek.
                      Chiang Kai-shek even had the idea of ​​uniting the Communists and the Kuomintang in one party, after his right hand, the chairman of the government, the main anti-communist and supporter of the alliance with Japan inside the Kuomintang, comrade Wang Jingwei defected to the Japanese.

                      TELEGRAM OF THE Plenipotentiary Representative of the USSR IN CHINA I.T. LUGANTS-ORELSKII TO THE PEOPLE'S COMMISSARIAT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF THE USSR
                      11th of January 1939
                      Ow. top secret
                      ... At the plenary session they will decide on measures against the remaining members of the Wang Jingwei group, as regards the entry of the Communists into the Kuomintang, Chiang Kai-shek believes that it is necessary to create a single party, abolishing the Kuomintang and the CCP.


                      Wang Jingwei. It is considered in China a traitor to the motherland.

                      1. Far B
                        Far B 26 June 2020 12: 28 New
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                        If sclerosis does not change me, then the 38-39th is just the years of hard division. “Tsai Kai Qing” (“Tea must die”) and other delights. Mao has never been a supporter of the easy way. Maybe for this Comrade Stalin appreciated him.
                      2. Doctor
                        Doctor 26 June 2020 12: 35 New
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                        If sclerosis does not change me, then the 38-39th is just the years of hard division. "Tsai Kai Qing" ("" Tea must die ") and other delights.

                        On the contrary, peace, friendship, chewing gum. Despite the multi-faceted position of Chan.

                        TELEGRAM OF THE Plenipotentiary Representative of the USSR IN CHINA I.T. LUGANTS-ORELSKII TO THE PEOPLE'S COMMISSARIAT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF THE USSR
                        4 February 1939 city
                        Ow. top secret
                        ... Chiang Kai-shek said that China's first friend is the USSRwith which the current generation will establish the closest connection, and that over the remaining thirty years of his life, these relations will be strengthened more and more.
                        America comes next to Chinawhose interests in the Pacific are very great.
                        А in third place are England and France.
                        With all these countries, China must and will strengthen its friendly relations; as for Germany and Italy, since these countries have concluded an “anti-Comintern” alliance among themselves, which includes China’s only enemy - Japanto the extent no need to strive for friendship with them.


                        All the tensions began after the ill-fated pact, when the Chinese decided that we would become allies of Japan.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 26 June 2020 10: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: Arzt
          First of all, the managed Comintern Communist Project was funded.

          Whatever one may say, the ideas of communist-internationalists have been hovering around the world for a long time, until in 1956 Khrushchev ceased to exist Cominform in 1956 shortly after the XX Congress of the CPSU.
          And after that went the collapse of the Communist Parties around the world.
          1. Doctor
            Doctor 26 June 2020 10: 52 New
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            Whatever one may say, the ideas of communist-internationalists still hovered around the world for a long time, until in 1956 Khrushchev ceased to exist Cominform in 1956 shortly after the XNUMXth Congress of the CPSU, and after that the collapse of the Communist Parties around the world began.

            He did not disperse anyone. The International Department of the CPSU Central Committee was created.
            Stalin also in 1943 "dispersed" the Comintern.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 26 June 2020 11: 13 New
              +2
              Quote: Arzt
              He did not disperse anyone. The International Department of the CPSU Central Committee was created.
              Stalin also in 1943 "dispersed" the Comintern.
              The Cominform did not have a formal assignee, however, these are actually the CMEA and the Department of Internal Affairs. Stalin did not disperse, but dismissed the Comintern, as the Allies demanded for the opening of the Second Front, instead of the Comintern, a department of international information was created in the Central Committee of the CPSU (b), headed by G. Dimitrov, and in 1947, Kominform was created.
  2. yuratanja1950
    yuratanja1950 26 June 2020 18: 34 New
    +1
    Quote: Far In
    The relationship between Tea and Mao is best read in the book. "special region of China" of the great Russian heavyweight Vlasov.


    Hmm ... In general, the book "A Special Region of China" was written Vladimirov, representative of the Comintern in China... hi
    1. gsev
      gsev 27 June 2020 17: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: yuratanja1950
      Hmm ... In general, the book "A Special Region of China" was written by Vladimirov, a representative of the Comintern in China ...

      Have you read it carefully? Could the MGB not be able to monitor any diary entries of a security officer and diplomat in Burma? And in these notes would be enough for espionage and anti-Soviet agitation if they were written as published by Vlasov. The book was written under the control of the KGB by the son of Vladimirov, Vlasov, after debunking the cult of personality. Most likely, Vlasov brought to the “Special Region of China” memories from conversations with his father and his attitude to overcoming the cult of personality and his euphoria from the development of the USSR after the death of Stalin and the liberal transformations of N. S. Khrushchev. In general, the topic of propaganda publications in the PRC and the USSR during the conflict between them is very interesting and is waiting for its researcher. Interestingly, literature published in China turned out to be more significant than published in the USSR. Few people know that the memories of the artist L. Orlova after her death were in the PRC and were published there. Also after the death of Minister E. Furtseva, her memoirs were published in the PRC. The wife of Mao in the introduction even managed to write that E. Furtseva, as Minister of the USSR, was following Mao’s instructions. It is interesting that there are arguments that the memoirs of L. Orlova were falsified in China. There are no originals; it is believed that they were turned into waste paper. And this is considered a sign of falsification. On this basis, some of Serov’s diaries are also considered falsification.
  3. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 26 June 2020 20: 25 New
    +1
    The book you are referring to is the notes of the father of our weightlifter Yuri Vlasov (representative of the Comintern at Mao), and Yuri Vlasov prepared it for publication.
    1. Far B
      Far B 27 June 2020 00: 01 New
      +1
      The book to which I refer is a whole single work, and not scattered notes. Yuri Vlasov still wrote it - on the basis of powerful, no doubt, notes. But he wrote it, and it was a book. Well, the fact that he decided to cede authorship to the deceased, whom he immensely respected, was his own business.
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 27 June 2020 07: 38 New
        +1
        The work is really whole and single. Yuri Vlasov himself never claimed authorship, although preparing for the press is hard work. This was not a separate note.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 June 2020 06: 49 New
    +1
    An interesting article, we had a distorted view of many things.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 26 June 2020 06: 53 New
    +3
    Very interesting article.
    Under the USSR, the actions and achievements of which are now being criticized, large-scale projects have been planned and implemented, as well as complex multi-path projects.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 26 June 2020 07: 22 New
      +1
      large-scale projects were planned and implemented, as well as complex multi-step projects.

      The Great Empire was, although without an official emperor. In Imperia, there is no other way.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 26 June 2020 07: 28 New
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        Quote: Doccor18
        large-scale projects were planned and implemented, as well as complex multi-step projects.

        The Great Empire was, although without an official emperor. In Imperia, there is no other way.
        good Well yes!
    2. Far B
      Far B 26 June 2020 09: 13 New
      +4
      Under the USSR, even in the 20s and 30s, when the USSR was really an outcast and a rogue, SUCH external actions were carried out, which is impossible to imagine at present. Scarf Berezovsky, you say? X-heh!
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 26 June 2020 09: 24 New
        -2
        Under the USSR, even in the 20s and 30s, when the USSR was really an outcast and a rogue, SUCH external actions were carried out, which is impossible to imagine at present.

        That is yes. The work of the Comintern is still waiting for inquisitive researchers.
        But, unfortunately, everything is again due to the long-suffering Russian peasant.
        1. Far B
          Far B 26 June 2020 09: 35 New
          0
          Oh, not the fact that at our expense) in those years, the slogan "renounce the old world" worked more than. Spain, France, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Switzerland, Mexico, further everywhere. Well, maybe, except for the States and Great Britain.
        2. gsev
          gsev 27 June 2020 17: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: Arzt
          That is yes. The work of the Comintern is still waiting for inquisitive researchers.

          I recommend "The Comintern and Pyotr Pyatnitsky on the scales of history." The author believes that the true history of the Comintern can never be restored. Many successful creators of the success of the Comintern were destroyed by I.V. Stalin. And figures like G. Dimitrov are simple administrators and executors, supervisors I.V. Stalin destroyed the very idea of ​​a self-developing communist movement. But even the surviving rank and file members of the Comintern did great things. What are the associates of Ho Chi Minh! Castro and Che learned the basics of guerrilla warfare before landing in Cuba with a successor to the ideas of the Comintern.
          1. Doctor
            Doctor 27 June 2020 18: 16 New
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            I recommend "The Comintern and Pyotr Pyatnitsky on the scales of history."

            Thanks, I will take a look. Somehow I missed this book, I didn’t hear at all.
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 26 June 2020 09: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Far In
        Under the USSR, even in the 20-30s, when the USSR was really an outcast and a beggar ..... X-heh!

        Well, why are such words? The USSR immediately had great goals.
        And in the 20s of the USSR he defended his interests in the Far East
        And in the 30s, the USSR helped against Japan. There was an article in 2013, many editions of it later reprinted
        STALIN FALCONS IN CHINAI really liked it.
  • Doctor
    Doctor 26 June 2020 08: 12 New
    +7
    Already wrote here, I repeat to understand the approaches of China to foreign policy.

    The eldest son, Jiang Jingo, Chiang Kai-shek, as we know from the article, sent to the USSR.



    But there was still an adopted son, Jiang Weigo, this one went to Germany, to the Munich Military Academy, and later to the alpine shooters with the right to wear the Edelweiss patch, an officer of the Wehrmacht tank forces, in the post-war period he was a general in the army of Taiwan, a high-ranking Kuomintang activist.



    The son of Mao Zedong, Mao Anyin, studied at the Military Political Academy. Lenin in Moscow and at the Military Academy. Frunze. Got the name Sergey Mao.
    Lieutenant, political commander of a tank company, 2nd Belorussian Front. He fought with Poland and Czechoslovakia. The battle path with its tank unit ended in Berlin.

    1. Far B
      Far B 26 June 2020 08: 58 New
      +1
      Damn, the longer I live, I live, the more I agree with Mao and his theses of the cultural revolution. Officials need to be cleaned from time to time, and cleaned firmly, “so that he knows who to bow to (s).” Pu Yi, a former wrapper, plowed on the plantations, then, according to his education, the butterfly professor, according to his education, finalized. Does anyone in any family born
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 26 June 2020 15: 26 New
        +1
        Pu Yi even became a member of the CPPCC after re-education and was friends with Zhou Enlai. Now, if the Bolsheviks managed to use Nicholas II in their interests and make him, say, a deputy of the Leningrad City Council, there would be a higher class.)
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 June 2020 10: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Arzt
      Got the name Sergey Mao.
      Lieutenant, political commander of a tank company, 2nd Belorussian Front.

      Thank you, I didn’t know that.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 26 June 2020 15: 28 New
        +2
        Judging by the recollections, Mao's son was an intelligent and good person. But his father reproached him for his too enthusiastic attitude towards the USSR, for wearing the Soviet military uniform and for the fact that he looked too well-fed for the then Chinese.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 26 June 2020 18: 26 New
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          Quote: Sergej1972
          Judging by the recollections, Mao's son was an intelligent and good person. But his father reproached him for his too enthusiastic attitude towards the USSR, for wearing the Soviet military uniform and for the fact that he looked too well-fed for the then Chinese.

          Is he so ate at our front, or what? laughing
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 26 June 2020 19: 25 New
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            No, he looked normal. But against the backdrop of the then ordinary Chinese ....
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 26 June 2020 20: 05 New
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              Quote: Sergej1972
              No, he looked normal. But against the backdrop of the then ordinary Chinese ....

              Ah, got it.
  • Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 26 June 2020 08: 26 New
    +1
    Thank you for the article ... to be honest, some aspects were opened differently and especially the understanding of the Chinese comrades regarding the ideological blindness of the then leadership ..... it is clear that history does not have a subjunctive mood, but as if everything would have developed if the plan had happened then
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 26 June 2020 09: 06 New
    -5
    Either they ruined billions of people's money to support Mao and kiss him with a blow, then they spent them on ... overthrowing him.

    "Consistent" policy, you will not say anything ...

    And this is instead of calm, balanced, mutually beneficial long-term trade relations ...
    1. Far B
      Far B 26 June 2020 09: 19 New
      +5
      Hundreds of millions of (un) popular money were ruined to support Buonoparte (Pavel), then they fought with him in the blood (San Palych the Blessed). Consistent politics, you can’t say anything. And this is instead of calm, balanced, mutually beneficial long-term relationship
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 26 June 2020 10: 18 New
        -2
        Quote: Far In
        Hundreds of millions of (un) popular money were ruined to support Buonoparte (Pavel), then they fought with him in the blood (San Palych the Blessed)

        Horseradish (root crop) - also looks like a finger. yes

        Ah, come on, you are different things! belay yes

        Mao ..... attacked the WHOLE world, like Napoleon?

        Mao became ... Emperor Empire instead of the Consul The Republic?

        Mao .... established states, appointed kings, waged wars like Napoleon?
        Etc.

        Corresponding to these actions, relations between Russia and the other have changed.

        What about Mao?


        PS Yeah, voice the amount "invested" in Bonoparte by Paul, and even comparable to the scale of GIFTS to China.lol
        NONSENSE...lol
        PS By the way, Pavel and fought against France, too, and very intensely ..
        1. Far B
          Far B 26 June 2020 10: 38 New
          +2
          Mao attacked the whole world)
          Mao became the Great Helmsman of the Middle Empire - will it suit you?)

          Mao established the state, took part in the appointment of state leaders)
          Well, why are you doing this?) I understand that neither Lenin nor Stalin love you, but the narrow-film ketaes did something for you?))) (Ah damn, I’ll be demolished a monument for racism right now)
          I will not voice you the money Paul invested in Napoleon. Let me remind you that England Laxandra paid fifty dollars for a pair of soldier's boots a year. If you want arithmetic, train yourself. And about the Anglo-Russian war, I really don’t need to tell you anything, you are a story (I respect, by the way, very, very respectable) and you know very well without reminders.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 26 June 2020 10: 47 New
            -2
            Quote: Far In
            Mao attacked the whole world)
            Mao became the Great Helmsman of the Middle Empire - will it suit you?)

            No.

            What is the analogy? No
            Quote: Far In
            Well, why are you doing this?) I understand that neither Lenin nor Stalin are not like you, but narrow-film ketaes did something for you?))

            We are talking about something else, about a comparison that you failed
            Quote: Far In
            I will not voice to you the money invested by Paul in Napoleon

            You just have nothing to voice, alas.

            Therefore, your statement about the funds "invested" by Paul in Napoleon is incorrect, IMHO hi
            1. Far B
              Far B 26 June 2020 11: 02 New
              +2
              statements about funds "invested" ...
              under-received, I’m unequivocally named, why are you?) There is no analogy, you are right, Mao is far from Napoleon. But at the level of China of his time, Mao is quite a Napoleon. He fought with Japan, omega (UN), India, Vietnam, the Union, sparrows, smelting furnaces, his own interaural ganglion - but finally not a man, and I don’t even know hto. But .. She could not, she could not. Ketays, by the way, do not mind seventy percent
              1. gsev
                gsev 27 June 2020 20: 57 New
                0
                Quote: Far In
                Mao is far from Napoleon. But at the level of China of his time, Mao is quite a Napoleon. Fought with Japan, omega (UN), India, Vietnam,
                Napoleon's empire perished during the life of Napoleon. Mao laid such a margin of safety in the state he created that the PRC was able to survive the transition to a more market economy without losing land. So Mao will be smarter and more successful than Napoleon. In addition, during the life of Mao, China was a military ally of the Vietnamese. In the battles for the freedom and independence of Vietnam, more Chinese than Russians were killed by invaders from the USA.
                1. Far B
                  Far B 28 June 2020 00: 15 New
                  0
                  Here, for the most part I agree, but there is a nuance: Napoleon was one against all, Mao - no
                  1. gsev
                    gsev 2 July 2020 03: 54 New
                    0
                    Quote: Far In
                    Napoleon was one against all

                    In 1812, during the campaign to Moscow, under the command of Napoleon, there were Polish, Austrian and German troops.
                    As a result of Napoleon’s victory at Wagram, Russia took away the Tarnopol District from Austria (about 400 people became Russian subjects).
            2. gsev
              gsev 27 June 2020 17: 13 New
              -1
              Quote: Olgovich
              No.

              What is the analogy? No

              A literal translation from the Chinese People’s Republic of China should more correctly be considered the Chinese Empire.
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 26 June 2020 15: 32 New
            +1
            If we find fault with words, then Mao, as, incidentally, many Chinese, strictly speaking, was not outwardly "narrow-film".
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 June 2020 10: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: Olgovich
      Either they ruined billions of people's money to support Mao and kiss him with a blow, then they spent them on ... overthrowing him.
      "Consistent" policy, you will not say anything.

      Were there not to be Judas Khrushchev, relations between Moscow and China would be different, more adapted and beneficial for both countries. But it turned out that 50 years flew into the abyss.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 26 June 2020 10: 39 New
        -3
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Were there not to be Judas Khrushchev, relations between Moscow and China would be different, more adapted and beneficial for both countries. But it turned out that 50 years flew into the abyss.

        You can’t build huge expensive enterprises (250 pcs) for his account of a foreign country in a ghostly and utopian hope for gratitude and alliance. Moreover, a country that suffered a terrible war and losses, where everything has not yet been restored ...

        What did our country receive in exchange for money, goods, etc., in an adequate comparative volume?

        How much our country has spent and LOST money to support the so-called "friendly" regimes that betrayed faster than money reached them?
        1. Far B
          Far B 26 June 2020 11: 32 New
          +4
          Specifically for China in the Stalin period? Easy: how much will you rate the participation of Chinese milking volunteers by the number of a mullion in the Korean War?
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 26 June 2020 12: 37 New
            0
            Quote: Far In
            Specifically for China in the Stalin period? Easy: how much will you rate the participation of Chinese milking volunteers by the number of a mullion in the Korean War?

            Not a single citizen of the USSR needed these 250 factories built FOR HIS ACCOUNT and WITHOUT its demand in ... China .. Like 11 wild loans torn from him and given to an unknown person and for what ..

            He needs all this at home, to restore the destroyed

            and he doesn’t give a damn about the Chinese volunteers, he knows which and where is Korea, which he doesn't care about either ..
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 26 June 2020 15: 34 New
        0
        Everything is much more complicated. You do not take into account the internal processes in China and the CCP. Criticism of the decisions of the 20th and 22nd Congress of the CPSU was only an occasion. The Chinese respected Stalin, but they did not have any particular admiration for him. By the way, they themselves openly declared his mistakes.
    3. Doctor
      Doctor 26 June 2020 10: 24 New
      0
      Either they ruined billions of people's money to support Mao and kiss him with a blow, then they spent them on ... overthrowing him.
      "Consistent" policy, you will not say anything ...
      And this is instead of calm, balanced, mutually beneficial long-term trade relations ...

      Gold words! They must be cut in stone at the Foreign Ministry.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 26 June 2020 10: 45 New
    +1
    Victor Louis traveled to Taiwan after Damansky. And Russian ties to the top of Taipei helped this.
  • BAI
    BAI 26 June 2020 11: 24 New
    +2
    Extremely (for VO) an interesting article.
  • andrew42
    andrew42 26 June 2020 13: 33 New
    +2
    You can take a very long time to analyze the differences between Chiang Kai-shek and Mao, their ideological attitudes and all that. in fact, everything is simpler: any ideology taken into service (at the moment of time) - it leads to the Earth Emperor, red or white or blue, due to Chinese cultural specificity - these are the nuances. Mao is the red emperor who mobilized the Chinese to rebuild the independent Empire under the red flag.
    1. hjvtp1966
      hjvtp1966 27 June 2020 11: 04 New
      0
      So, with us too.
  • UltraRed
    UltraRed 26 June 2020 20: 31 New
    +1
    By the way, we have little-known fact that the army of Wang Jingwei, fighting on the side of the Japanese, in 1942 totaled about 550 thousand people.! Which, of course, is not a few million in Chiang Kai-shek, but it is quite comparable with the forces controlled by the CPC (no more than 650 thousand people for that period). So that Vlasov, Kaminsky and other Quislings - "nervously smoking on the sidelines" ....
    1. gsev
      gsev 27 June 2020 17: 19 New
      -1
      Quote: UltraRed
      So that Vlasov, Kaminsky and other Quislings - "nervously smoking on the sidelines .."

      If you collect all the policemen, punishers, SS volunteers, burgomaster, heavis, RONA, ROA, Turkestan battalions, Armenian and Georgian legions, overseers in prisons and concentration camps from the citizens of the USSR we get a comparable figure. China took the blow of about 3/4 of the Japanese land forces and grind them. About the same merits of the USSR in the war with Germany.
      1. UltraRed
        UltraRed 2 July 2020 01: 15 New
        0
        1.
        If you collect all the policemen, ........ burgomaster, heavi ......

        ..... Yeah, as well as waitresses in restaurants for German officers and guard dogs in military depots ..... :)
        Do not distort! It is clear that we were talking about regular military units. Otherwise, the entire civil administration of the Nanking government and Manzhou-go are on the list.
        2.
        ..., Turkestan battalions, Armenian and Georgian legions, ...

        Then Sun Manzhou-Guo and Prince Devan are on the list! And this is over 200 thousand people!
        How many “legionnaires” did the Germans have there? Huh?
        3.
        get a comparable figure

        Will not work.
        4.
        China took the hit of about 3/4 of Japan’s ground forces and ground them. About the same merits of the USSR in the war with Germany.

        Epic FALSE!
        Show me at least one large-scale successful offensive by Chiang Kai-shek against Yap. For 8 years of the war (if you count from 1937) - the greatest success was the defeat of 2 (in TWO words) infantry divisions. Even in 1944, the Japanese succeeded in large-scale offensives on the Chinese front, when they concentrated at least forces of equal strength.
        And what THEY "grind" ?
        The Kuomintang men held the front only due to superiority in manpower by 4-5 times and military-technical assistance from the USSR and the USA.
        By the way, the strength of the Japanese army on the Chinese front was comparable to that of the Kwantung Army, where is "3/4"?
        Therefore, how can one “put on one board" the complete defeat of the German army by the Soviet Union, when the Nazis "collapsed" whole army groups (Bagration in 1944) and the holding of the positional front by the Chinese?
        Tokyo Chiang Kai-shek also took, as the Red Army Berlin?
        About the same merits
        ... Yeah ....

        In general, if the author of the post "Bahrain or Illinois" - "all right" ....
        And if "404" - then how, is it not embarrassing for grandfathers?
        Or yours only after Crook’s appeal came out of the bunker? :)
        1. gsev
          gsev 2 July 2020 03: 37 New
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          Quote: UltraRed
          Show me at least one large-scale successful offensive by Chiang Kai-shek against Yap.

          In the summer of 1941, Chinese troops advanced. By this they ensured Japan’s non-participation in the war against the USSR until 1945. The most difficult and bloody battles between the Chinese and Japanese were at the very beginning of their war for Shanghai and Nanjing. Chiang Kai-shek managed to force the Japanese to reduce the intensity of the war after the battles for Shanghai and Nanjing. In principle, then the Chinese laid the foundation for the defeat of Japan. Japan realized its inability to defeat the Chinese army under the embargo. And deliveries of aircraft and gasoline along the Burmese road would make the Chinese army in 3 years capable of winning victories over Japan. To this end, Japan launched a war in a southerly direction to gain access to oil and cut the Burmese supply route of China. Japan cut the Burmese road, received oil, and put China in a difficult position. But after this, she could not interfere with the supply of jet fuel to the USSR, the USSR did not impose a war on 2 fronts. As a result, approximately 10 Soviet tanks were brought to the frontline from 000 onwards, which increased the strength of Soviet aviation by 1942 times.
          Quote: UltraRed
          How many “legionnaires” did the Germans have there? Huh?

          If I’m not mistaken, about a sixth of the German troops who were surrounded by Stalingrad consisted of Khiva. The German archives seem to confirm the presence of 6 traitors of the USSR in the 20th Wehrmacht army near Stalingrad .. Estimates of their total number reach 000 only in this army.
  • UltraRed
    UltraRed 1 July 2020 23: 38 New
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    Quote: gsev

    If you collect all ..... burgomaster, heavi,