The developers of "Almaty" cured her of "childhood diseases"

Military equipment created on the Armata platform no longer suffers from childhood illnesses. Over the past five years, it has been able to perfectly study.

About this RIA News рассказал Uralvagonzavod representative Mikhail Begman, who led the team preparing this equipment for the Victory Day parade on Red Square.

He noted that over the years the company has already become accustomed to “Armata”, learned all its features. What kind of "children's diseases" was spoken by the representative of Uralvagonzavod, he did not specify. And now, when this technique goes to rehearsals, Mikhail has no vain experiences. He is absolutely calm, although he feels a burden of responsibility on himself.

The conversation took place immediately after the Parade, where "Armata" showed itself in all its glory. Its developers have every reason to be proud of their work.

The team of employees of Uralvagonzavod, accompanying the equipment to the parade in Moscow, totals 50 people. Their task includes maintenance and diagnostics of military vehicles. In addition, the company's specialists advise and train the crews of the arriving armored vehicles. Their task was to ensure that the T-14 Armata (and other equipment on the same platform) worked reliably during rehearsals and at the parade itself.

Comments

[parusnik]

After the cure, the replacement of existing equipment will go ..?

[Svarog]

Quote: parusnik

After the cure, the replacement of existing equipment will go ..?

This is an uncomfortable question ... but relevant

[carstorm 11]

it still needs to be accepted. what is inconvenient in this matter?

[siberalt]

With this light still work, but work. For such a technology, the future. The product is very promising. Everything has its time.

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: siberalt

With this light still work, but work. For such a technology, the future. The product is very promising. Everything has its time.

I agree ! It’s not in vain that all sorts of bad things backward, etc. .. This means that the development turned out well, but work and work more ..

[Vita vko]

Quote: Svarog

replacement of existing equipment

A complete replacement is impractical, too expensive. Most likely it will be used as a CABG or unmanned reconnaissance as part of a thin unit.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vita VKO

A complete replacement is impractical, too expensive.

And then in the next 15 years it will not be a complete replacement, for there is a T-90M, which today should take the place of MBT instead of 72-ki.
But ... a lot of work remains to be done on the T-14 and we are unlikely to see it in the troops in the finished serial version before 25 years. There are questions on the dvigun and the gun and the shells ... One thing is positive, the Armata platform is DOING it, and not letting it drift.

[The leader of the Redskins]

It has been repeatedly stated to me with foam at the mouth that the experimental batch has long been in the army. Almost a battalion is being run in, but here I read:
In addition, the company's specialists advise and train the crews of the arriving armored vehicles.
Who, then, is testing the armature battalions in the troops ?! ...

[carstorm 11]

long. and how do you identify sores? poke method?

[AVA77]

The leader of the redskins. Do not be offended, but I am minusting you already out of habit. You are an inveterate pessimist and all a prowler. We are all bad!
Yes nifiga, everything is bad with you. We have a normal life, we will not die .

[D16]

Who, then, is testing the armature battalions in the troops ?! ...

Contractors In parades, by tradition, conscripts drive vehicles. Their breeders and teach.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

It has been repeatedly stated to me with foam at the mouth that the experimental batch has long been in the army. Almost a battalion is being run in,

And you carefully watched the same Parade when the T-14s were passing by. What did the announcer say? What division are those tanks in?

[Esaul]

No, they will continue to rid Armata of teenage problems)))

[shinobi]

Armata, in this specific form, will never appear in the troops. A small installation batch (12 cars) is checked (by a "fool") by a recruit in some Moscow region (big state secret) unit. After, no earlier than 25-26, the final form of the platform will be adopted , the price has been determined and whether the tank will be bought at all. Do not spit and throw stones at me. This is the practice. So many of our numbered research "objects" have remained so. The chatter of the media and officials is irrelevant. What will the tank of the future be, the question is very difficult and there are no unambiguous solutions yet due to the ambiguity of the question itself.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: shinobi

A small pilot batch (12 cars) is being checked (by a "fool") by a new recruit in some suburban (big state secret) unit.

Back in 2017, they wrote that this would be the 1st Guards Chertkovsky regiment of the Taman motorized rifle division (according to the statement of the main command of the Ground Forces). EMNIP, at yesterday's parade the crews of "Armat" were from this regiment.

[carstorm 11]

unit on b 3 was 90 and t 14 was 27 separate Sevastopol

[Alexey RA]

Quote: carstorm 11

unit on b 3 was 90 and t 14 was 27 separate Sevastopol

Hmmm ... I believed Izvestia, which writes that the T-90M crews were from the 27th brigade, and the T-72BZ and T-14 crews were from the 1st regiment.

The T-72B3 and T-14 Armata tanks were led by the 1st Guards Chertkovsky Regiment of the Taman Motorized Rifle Division. But the newest T-90M “Breakthrough” was controlled by the fighters of the 27th Separate Guards of the Sevastopol Motorized Rifle Brigade near Moscow. It is noteworthy that in the same column with the “nineties” of “Sevastopol” there were also “Almaty” of the 1st Guards Tank Regiment.

[shinobi]

Believe the media? In vain. The media, especially the "independent", is an instrument of information war. How it really is, no one will ever tell you. In no state, because the exact state of affairs (in any state) is the "biggest state secret" ...

[Zaurbek]

May God grant T90M in bulk. And KAZ is on them.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Armata is not a substitute for existing equipment, rather an addition, a sort of Tiger, for the T4. Most likely there will be a slow delivery to the troops with subsequent modernization. This is expensive. Maybe we’ll do 500 pieces.

[Poetry]

The armor is strong and our tanks are fast ...
Even the modernized T-72 is still relevant today.

[Zaurbek]

Actual, but there are many that are not there. For example, a remote module with a 12,7mm machine gun. Or birdhouse with bulletproof glass. Panoramas with a thermal imager.

[Poetry]

I agree. The weapon itself is only half the battle. It all depends on which crews are sitting at the armor.

[Zaurbek]

Theoretically, BO with T90M should be sculpted on T72 as well. Turks and Jews did so on the M60. A 125mm gun is enough for everyone. Communication is needed, a connection with the group, a thermal imager, and a protected shooter.

[Poetry]

I recalled how the Saudis in Yemen threw their "abrams" and ran away faster than Usain Bolt. By the way, the "Abram" does not have an automatic loader. If I'm not confusing anything.

[Zaurbek]

There he is not the most important.

[Poetry]

Any calculations are good until the first clashes.

[Zaurbek]

They had a shot in Iraq ....

[Poetry]

Well, yes, Armata is still a kindergartner. Snot must be wiped.

[Zaurbek]

The bar is very high and there are a lot of technologies that have been applied. (They are new both for application on the tank and for their production in industry)

[Poetry]

The crew is in an armored capsule. It is very important. A competent harmonious crew is priceless.

[Zaurbek]

And it is difficult and not clear how resistant to damage.

[Poetry]

And polygons? Surely extinguished from all types of weapons.

[Zaurbek]

As our Colonel said in military courses: if Bops hits and does not even break, then often the electronics simply turn off.

[Poetry]

I served for a long time, even in the ranks of the SA, when the 40th A was also "beyond the river". When I see Armata, it seems to me that this is from the realm of fantasy. Backward, in short. Thanks for the educational program, Zaur.

[Zaurbek]

For example a high ballistic 125mm cannon. If everything is so good, where is she on the T90M? With the "long" Bops? In NATO countries, such weapons have been standing for 20 years.

[Poetry]

T90M which is "Breakthrough"?

[Zaurbek]

Yes. There they announced such a gun, then put the old one.

[Poetry]

So something did not go.

[Zaurbek]

They wrote that metallurgy cannot produce stably and serially billets of the required quality. But, by and large, for local wars and an old gun is enough.

[Poetry]

This shell is bops, 100% accurate?

[Zaurbek]

How to aim. We had an officer with a 100mm smoothbore MT12 with 1,5km in Verona. With 8x ordinary sight. And the tank has a computing machine and a rangefinder.

[Poetry]

Plumage what gives? Stability of flight to the target?

[Zaurbek]

The plumage compensates for the absence of grooves on the barrel, which were removed to increase the speed of the projectile. Otherwise, they will wear out quickly. Up to 1000m / s rifling, over-smooth trunk .... and now speeds of 1400-1900m / s.

[Poetry]

I get it. What people can’t come up with to kill other people. I was glad to talk with a competent person. Good luck.

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: Poetiszaugla

I get it. What people can’t come up with to kill other people. I was glad to talk with a competent person. Good luck.

I join interestingly and simply writes ..
Russia has to invent, otherwise they will destroy us .. This is constantly happening in our history! Do not give us a peaceful life.

[Poetry]

Our country is our All. This is the last line of defense. We will no longer have another. It's just that not everyone is aware of this. Our enemies have been preparing our murder in cold blood for many years. Everything else is irrelevant.

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: Poetiszaugla

Our country is our All. This is the last line of defense. We will no longer have another. It's just that not everyone is aware of this. Our enemies have been preparing our murder in cold blood for many years. Everything else is irrelevant.

Eh Sergey, they wrote well, but not everyone understands this .. Especially here on the Internet, they overwhelmed us to the fullest and the worst thing is they are trying to blow up the situation from the inside, through our youth, etc. ....
Well, nothing, I’m sure that we will break through this time.

[Poetry]

If you can’t defeat us in a fair fight,
So the memory must be erased, mine and yours.

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: Poetiszaugla

If you can’t defeat us in a fair fight,
So the memory must be erased, mine and yours.

But Sergey goes on like that .. They clean the memory of the young generation first and foremost .. Well, the fight goes on!

[Qas]

And that is why our "elite" buys houses abroad + their citizenship + their children there.

[Qas]

And the crew outside the armored capsule (in the T-72, T-80, T-90) is he less literate, less coherent and less valuable?

[Grits]

Quote: Zaurbek

There he is not the most important.

The most important Negro there. Muscular

[Zaurbek]

And yet ..... on Leclerc he is, on Abrams not .... everyone chooses. And they do not make new tanks, but upgrade the old ones with the systems that we put on the T14 .... and it has been there for 10-15 years. Like a long BOPS with an arrival under 1 meter, like an OMS (we have just reached this level now). Maybe a black man and that's enough.

[carstorm 11]

yeah. for 1300 pieces.

[siberalt]

It seems that the newly made corporals from Ukraine are minus you.

[Piramidon]

Quote: siberalt

It seems that the newly made corporals from Ukraine are minus you.

They are not up to it now. They are celebrating Peremogu. After all, "Boomerang" on the street in Moscow began to smoke.

[rocket757]

Maybe so ... or maybe not. Anyway, the main test of the battle ... but do not and will trample.

[Ingvar 72]

What a pathos statement. On the T-34, children's illnesses were treated even after several years of fighting, and here on you they were cured!
You can talk as much as you like about the excellent immunity of the child, but it is worth taking him to kindergarten, and the child begins to get sick much more often. Armata in the kindergarten was only on a distance excursion.
So the statement is pure pathos.
P.S. I am not trying to prove that the tank is bad.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Ingvar 72

On the T-34, children's illnesses were treated even after several years of fighting, and here on you they were cured!

Well, there was an order - to correct deficiencies and modernize 34ki in the production process, so as not to slow down the rate of deliveries of tanks to the army.

[Region68]

It says there ..
,,, reliably "worked" both during rehearsals and at the parade itself '' '' '
To do this, and the fact that healed))
Nothing more is required of her

[Albert1988]

Quote: Ingvar 72

What a pathos statement. On the T-34, children's illnesses were treated even after several years of fighting, and here on you they were cured!

It's just that the T-34 had a "childhood" for a turbulent period, and during the war it was necessary to simultaneously make cars and bring them to mind. And then for 10 years quietly rolling the machine around the polygons, testing and fixing the jambs with a file ...

Quote: Ingvar 72

You can talk as much as you like about the excellent immunity of the child, but it is worth taking him to kindergarten, and the child begins to get sick much more often.

And this is the next stage - now the child has been given the necessary complex of vaccinations and hardening procedures, but when he goes to kindergarten, for example in Syria, then he will earn serious immunity, so to speak, in the field))))

[A1845]

And what is the pathos? Eliminated the defects - well, a common thing for new technology.

[Zaurbek]

On his biathlon

[Ingvar 72]

What defects have been fixed? Those identified during the fighting?

[Free wind]

Interesting car. The main thing is not to fight.

[Genry]

Quote: Free Wind

Interesting car. The main thing is not to fight.

Read the story. Almost every generation is at war.

[AU Ivanov.]

In order and a tank to fight. But, preferably, not in our territory. And even better - with foreign crews. And for our interests.

[Yurahip]

Measles and whooping cough have passed, hypertension, osteoporosis, community-acquired pneumonia and other diseases have begun. Adult diseases.

[Tusv]

Armata has one childhood illness - the French matrix. And Yes, if you carefully watched the Parade, the T-14 is already in service in the Russian Federation

[Genry]

Quote: Tusv

Armata has one childhood illness - the French matrix.

Do not carry nonsense!
https://fishki.net/2028654-rossija-sumela-sozdat-sobstvennuju-teplovizionnuju-matricu.html

FEM18M-03 has been produced for a couple of years.

And in the T-14 Armata:
https://topwar.ru/144042-holding-shvabe-osnastit-armatu-noveyshey-opticheskoy-sistemoy.html

[Tusv]

Do not carry nonsense!

Out of principle

Quote: Mikhail Bulgakov

this is by no means rubbish, as you deigned to express yourself to the ladies, but a string of well-packed syllogisms

[Genry]

Quote: Tusv

syllogism

Another word immediately came to mind ... similar to "anarchism".
But I do not want to offend anyone.

[Tusv]

The classics should be honored, otherwise we have "Boys under the covers are engaged in humanism" - this is from Radio Day

[Albert1988]

Let's say culturally - this is fiction - "French matrices" were relevant only for the early T-90s, when we did not have our own, for a long time all these French matrices were "Russified by the Chinese method")))))

[Albert1988]

Quote: Tusv

Armata has one childhood illness - the French matrix.

Why are you reading this? I dare to ask ...
And why only in Almaty? Thermal imagers of this type have a lot here, why don't you write about the T-90M?

[Chever]

Stumble if so

[strelokmira]

Cool, and purchases will not be in 2150?

[Evil 55]

Only at least TEN years of military operation and an adequate attitude of the manufacturer’s design team to the claims of tank-exploiters will be able to fully cure ARMATU.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Angry 55

Only at least TEN years of military operation and an adequate attitude of the manufacturer’s design team to the claims of tank-exploiters will be able to fully cure ARMATU.

If we consider that this machine is very far in the future, then yes, and here, most likely not diseases, but identified design flaws: childhood illness "is when something does not work correctly, and the disadvantage is when it was not designed so initially. ..

[yfast]

.
And in the T-14 Armata:
https://topwar.ru/144042-holding-shvabe-osnastit-armatu-noveyshey-opticheskoy-sistemoy.html

So did or are still going?

[Albert1988]

Quote: yfast

So did or are still going?

It’s been a long time, but only quietly — the friends of the friend’s brother of the Minister of Defense and senior general designers of the cleaning mop present in the office of the company located next to the plant will tell you that there is nothing, you know all the polymers where and in general it is cardboard. ..

[_Ugene_]

Armata no longer suffers from childhood illnesses. Over the past five years, it has been able to perfectly study.
And now, when this technique goes to rehearsals, Mikhail has no vain experiences. He is absolutely calm, although he feels a burden of responsibility on himself.

rzhunimaga, finally in 5 years you can drive out to the parade without worries, at such a pace in 50 years you can fight on it

[Albert1988]

Quote: _Ugene_

rzhunimaga, finally in 5 years you can drive out to the parade without worries, at such a pace in 50 years you can fight on it

You, dear article, carefully read - the car was made to work as it should, without failures and jambs, and not for the parade, but for operation in the army ...

[_Ugene_]

I actually first quoted the article from the article, and if you yourself read it, you should have seen that the general message of the article is just that, but there is nothing about the fighting qualities and troop supply, the emphasis in the article is that

And now, when this technique goes to rehearsals, Mikhail has no vain experiences. He is absolutely calm, although he feels a burden of responsibility on himself.

therefore, this article causes only laughter

[Albert1988]

Clearly, they didn’t understand anything ...

[_Ugene_]

But what is there to understand? everybody knows this, armata is a ceremonial tank, they have been carrying it in parades for many years, and now

now, when this technique goes to rehearsals, Michael has no vain experiences

but it wasn’t there anymore in the troops, they decided to put some crumbs into the troops, but Michael now has no vain experiences, we are so happy for Mikhail

[Albert1988]

Quote: _Ugene_

But what is there to understand? everybody knows this, armata is a ceremonial tank, they have been carrying it in parades for many years, and now

Ugum, a tank have been driving around landfills for 5 years, they are tested in different climatic conditions - from salt marshes to the Arctic, it’s a purely ceremonial tank, ugum, while canting jambs constantly rule, they change sighting systems to better ones according to test results, yes, this is clearly pure front car ...

Quote: _Ugene_

but in the troops it was not there anyway,

And what will he be with the troops, 5 years after the first batch, when even the T-72 took almost 7 years to do this? T-72, which is simple as an ax, and this machine in many respects has reached the planes in terms of complexity!

[_Ugene_]

Do not compare with the T-72, 5 years have passed from the beginning of development to the adoption of it and the beginning of mass mass production. The T-14s have been transported for 5 years in parades, and they began to develop in 2009, 11 years have passed and there is no talk of mass production, a tiny amount has been ordered at the moment

[Albert1988]

The T-72 is as simple as an ax! Here we are dealing with a machine of difficulty level almost a fighter! Do you even know that ha T-14 AFARs are? And it’s not even AFARs of a separate KAZ, as on some Western vehicles, it’s the radars of the tank itself! This machine has a digital board, into which all the electronics of the machine are integrated, while any new electronic devices must still be seamlessly connected ...
And while all this must withstand a direct hit BOPS go powerful landmine and not be cut off ...
You try - put a sledgehammer on your computer with all its might and look what will happen to it, and here it is this option - the most complicated computer should not even scratch itself in this case ...

[_Ugene_]

is it really not clear that the T-72 is as simple as an ax now, more than 50 years after development, and at the end of the sixties of the last century it was the same advanced tank of its time, AFARS, a digital board and so on are normal attributes of a modern car, so a comparison in terms of time it quite logically and clearly shows where our science and production has slipped after the collapse of the USSR

[Albert1988]

Quote: _Ugene_

is it really not clear that the T-72 is as simple as an ax now, more than 50 years after development, and in the late sixties of the last century it was the same advanced tank of its time

Ahem, given that this machine was designed precisely as simple as possible in production to be mass? That he appeared precisely as a simplification of the complex T-64, and then a really complex tank appeared - the T-80, so it was complicated.

Quote: _Ugene_

AFARS, a digital board and so on are normal attributes of a modern car

Ugum, this level of digitalization and integration of all tank systems into one is now only available on two machines - the "Black Panther", and the latest modifications of Leclerc, which are also out of production ... Both machines are not massively massive ...
That is, the machines are not very simple. So comparing the T-72 and T-14, even adjusted for the historical period, is not very correct. Are you aware that in the USSR new tanks - prototypes of the same T-14 were not seriously considered as full-fledged mass vehicles? That there was a concept of the simultaneous presence of a mass machine in the troops and quite simple - this role was assigned to numerous attempts to modernize the T-72/80 (of which the simplest one was eventually realized - the T-90, and even in an even more simplified form), and the most powerful and complex combat vehicle of the next generation (a hypothetical "hammer" from Kharkov or then a promising tank from Tagil).
So even then there was an understanding that a T-14 tank would NOT be simple and baked like hot cakes in the manner of T-72 and T-34 ...

[_Ugene_]

that's right, there are enough excuses, you can boldly refine it for another 10 years, it is not clear why they began to demonstrate it to the whole world 5 years ago, when there are still works for many years to come, is it that the "partners" would keep up and start developing answers early?

[Albert1988]

Quote: _Ugene_

that’s right, there are enough excuses, you can safely modify it for another 10 years, it’s not clear why they started to show it to the world 5 years ago, when there was work there for many years to come,

Not excuses, but reasons! And how did they begin to show it? Ratings, PR, etc ...
Although I'm here, as a modeler, even glad)))

Quote: _Ugene_

is it that the "partners" would not lag behind and start developing answers early?

The partners already know everything without any shows, etc., if they would start at the same time everything that needs to be developed, only also quietly, without PR ...

[tralflot1832]

Like all commentators in Armata, he didn’t sit at the levers (steering wheel). He was cured of childhood diseases, well, okay!

[warriordima]

Armata Tank Parade,
Tank for the bourgeoisie
And not for the proletariat!))

[thrust]

appearance, which is "not scary"?

[Jurkovs]

The best doctor is war. And before her is always full of childhood diseases.