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“Crimea has never been Russian”: Germany is confident that Moscow will return the peninsula

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Crimea never had deep historical ties with Russia and was not Russian; Despite all the statements, after the end of Putin's rule, the peninsula will again return to Ukraine, since Russians do not want to spend huge finances on its maintenance. Andreas Umland made this statement in his article for the German edition Focus.


According to the author, all statements that the Crimea is linked with Russia by historical roots are "just a widespread myth." Crimea was conquered in 1783 by Catherine II, and from 1802 to 1917 Crimea was part of the Taurida province, connecting Crimea with the present southern part of continental Ukraine, but not Russia. From 1954 to 1991, Crimea was part of the Ukrainian Soviet Republic, so when the Soviet Union collapsed, it was left in its composition, and then Russian President Boris Yeltsin admitted it.

In addition, the author of the article claims, the indigenous people of the peninsula - the Crimean Tatars - are “anti-Putin” and want to reunite with Ukraine. This is directly stated by representatives of the Majlis (banned in Russia) and Kurultai. Russians on the peninsula are in the minority and are not indigenous.

The military capture of the peninsula in 2014, supported by 70% of Russian citizens, led to great economic problems in Russia itself and spoiled the country's foreign relations, the author emphasizes. Moscow had to "pour" $ 2014 billion into the Crimean economy since 20, but it still did not solve all the problems, even the construction of the Crimean bridge connecting the peninsula with the continental part of Russia did not help to solve them completely. True, the author admits, partly the economy of the peninsula was boosted by Russian tourism and investment, but if the Russian economy collapses, problems will begin in Crimea.

According to Umland, in 2014, Putin, during the annexation of Crimea, referred to the historical experience of the reunification of Germany, but this is incorrect. According to him, comparing the reunification of Germany and the capture of the Crimea is incorrect.

True, these two "associations" have a completely different nature, with regard to the reasons, methods of implementation and significance. Crimea cannot be compared with the German Democratic Republic, and modern Russia - with West Germany in 1990. Crimea compared with the Russian Federation is much smaller than the GDR compared with the then Federal Republic

he writes, adding that, unlike Russia and the Crimea, western and eastern Germany have been linked historically for centuries, on their territory lived one people, not different.

Thus, the author concludes, a “realistic” assessment of the likely internal processes in Russia suggests that the capture of Crimea is a temporary phenomenon. The Russian economy will not be able to maintain the peninsula in the future, and as soon as Putin leaves power, Crimea will return to its "historical homeland" - Ukraine.
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  1. Svetlana
    Svetlana 25 June 2020 09: 05 New
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    That private opinion, no more. And not all Germans think so. The same Schroeder, for example, says the opposite.
    1. svp67
      svp67 25 June 2020 09: 16 New
      73
      Quote: Svetlana
      That private opinion, no more.

      This is not an opinion, this is nonsense.
      In addition, the author claims, the indigenous people of the peninsula are Crimean Tatars
      Crimean Tatars, as "indigenous" as everyone else, they are newcomers and they came there during the Tatar-Mongol invasion, in this case the more "indigenous" are the Greeks ...
      Russians on the peninsula are in the minority and are not indigenous.
      He would have at least looked at the results of the population census, for 2014, the peninsula lived
      Russian - 65,2%
      Ukrainians - 16,0%
      Crimean Tatars - 12,6%
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 25 June 2020 10: 09 New
        24
        ...... This is not an opinion, this is nonsense .....
        wassat lol German victim of the exam !!!!
        Do not remember him how the alien lands were attached from ancient times to the present. From King Germanarich. What did they do with the population? Enslaved, destroyed ..... fire and sword. Thinks that fool no one knows the story
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 25 June 2020 11: 43 New
          17
          I wonder - why are there Tatars like an indigenous population there ?? The Russian Tmutarakan principality was there at least 200 years before them !! And in general - if so, from the end of the existing peoples in Crimea the Greeks live the longest ...
          1. major147
            major147 25 June 2020 11: 59 New
            13
            Quote: paul3390
            I wonder - why are there Tatars like an indigenous population there ?? The Russian Tmutarakan principality was there at least 200 years before them !! And in general - if so, from the end of the existing peoples in Crimea the Greeks live the longest ...

            Let me remind the German "historian" of the previously shown information about who, when and how long owned Crimea.
      2. Olgovich
        Olgovich 25 June 2020 10: 20 New
        27
        Quote: svp67
        He would have at least looked at the results of the population census, for 2014, the peninsula lived
        Russian - 65,2%
        Ukrainians - 16,0%
        Crimean Tatars - 12,6%

        And this "pearl of this ichiotka:
        and from 1802 to 1917, Crimea was part of the Tauride province, connecting Crimea with current southern part of continental Ukraine, but not Russia.
        what is it worth?

        How can pro-ancient province RUSSIA (!), connect Crimea with ...of today... Ukraine? belay lol
        She would still know h and Tauris is RUSSIA illegally transferred to Ukraine.

        This ignoramus will say about the Russian cities of Odessa, Nikolaev and Kherson that they have never had a relationship with Russia .... that this is .... "Ukraine", which did not stink there in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
        Done., Yes ...
      3. Vend
        Vend 25 June 2020 11: 01 New
        +5
        Quote: svp67

        more "indigenous" are the Greeks ...

        Not indigenous are the Cimmerians and Scythians, the Greeks are also newcomers)))
        1. svp67
          svp67 26 June 2020 21: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: Wend
          Not indigenous are the Cimmerians and Scythians, the Greeks are also newcomers)))

          And yet from the "newcomers" they are more "indigenous", they remember the Cimmerians, the Scythians, and the Taurus
      4. January
        January 26 June 2020 14: 18 New
        +2
        And what, in 2014, there was a census in \ in Ukraine? That's because bastards, and the whole world is crying that they last corresponded in 2001 ....
      5. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 26 June 2020 16: 36 New
        +7
        Berlin was NEVER German. There lived the Slavs, whom the Germans basically destroyed. Return Berlin to Russia !!!!!!!! And the island of Rugen, also Russian! Let them return to their swamps on the border with France and eat leeches. This is also my opinion.
      6. iouris
        iouris 26 June 2020 19: 00 New
        +2
        And they forgot about the Genoese: well, these are the owners of Swiss banks today. And they earned their capital through the trade in slaves, "white blacks", mainly "ancient ukrami". By the way, it was they who directed the process of digging up the Black Plague?
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 25 June 2020 09: 19 New
      19
      “Crimea has never been Russian”: Germany is confident that Moscow will return the peninsula

      Yesterday, against the background of the Victory Day parade, I was revising the film "The Third Strike", 1948 release ...


      Here in it, the refrain sounds that Crimea was considered theirs - Germans, Turks, Romanians, but in reality, Moscow will decide who it will be.
      1. doubovitski
        doubovitski 25 June 2020 09: 54 New
        12
        Quote: Insurgent
        The Germans, Turks, Romanians considered Crimea to be their own, and in reality, it was Moscow who decided who it would be ...

        Forgotten Greeks, Pechenegs, and dinosaurs.
        If you start with the Tertiary period, then trilobites will be offended. The city of Berlin is therefore named. that the bears ruled there. Hence the name. Would he fix this situation for himself?
        1. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 26 June 2020 16: 39 New
          +2
          Quote: doubovitski
          If you start with the Tertiary period, then trilobites will be offended.

          Trilobites became extinct at the border of the Paleozoic era with the Mesozoic, at the end of the Silurian period. The Tertiary or Neogene period is 300 million years old, approximately. For years, I do not remember the exact numbers. So you have enough with trilobites.
          1. Sergey M. Karasev
            Sergey M. Karasev 26 June 2020 19: 00 New
            -1
            Quote: AKuzenka
            Quote: doubovitski
            If you start with the Tertiary period, then trilobites will be offended.

            Trilobites became extinct at the border of the Paleozoic era with the Mesozoic, at the end of the Silurian period. The Tertiary or Neogene period is 300 million years old, approximately. For years, I do not remember the exact numbers. So you have enough with trilobites.

            In-in! In those days, it seems to me, there was neither the Crimea, nor the Black Sea. And, in general, the then geography did not closely resemble modern geography.
            1. doubovitski
              doubovitski 26 June 2020 23: 42 New
              0
              Quote: Sergey Karasev
              Quote: AKuzenka
              Quote: doubovitski
              If you start with the Tertiary period, then trilobites will be offended.

              Trilobites became extinct at the border of the Paleozoic era with the Mesozoic, at the end of the Silurian period. The Tertiary or Neogene period is 300 million years old, approximately. For years, I do not remember the exact numbers. So you have enough with trilobites.

              In-in! In those days, it seems to me, there was neither the Crimea, nor the Black Sea. And, in general, the then geography did not closely resemble modern geography.

              In those days, of course, only proto-Ukrainians inhabited the Earth. Busy were the beautification of the Black Sea.
          2. doubovitski
            doubovitski 26 June 2020 23: 40 New
            -2
            Quote: AKuzenka
            Quote: doubovitski
            If you start with the Tertiary period, then trilobites will be offended.

            Trilobites became extinct at the border of the Paleozoic era with the Mesozoic, at the end of the Silurian period. The Tertiary or Neogene period is 300 million years old, approximately. For years, I do not remember the exact numbers. So you have enough with trilobites.

            I agree. It has long been, memory failed.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 25 June 2020 10: 24 New
        +5
        Quote: Insurgent
        Here in it, it sounds like a refrain that the Crimea was considered theirs - Germans, Turks, Romanians, but in reality, Moscow will decide who it will be.

        That’s all said, once and for all.
        1. major147
          major147 25 June 2020 12: 04 New
          +9
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Insurgent
          Here in it, it sounds like a refrain that the Crimea was considered theirs - Germans, Turks, Romanians, but in reality, Moscow will decide who it will be.

          That’s all said, once and for all.

          By the way, if my memory serves me (and there is no time to fumble in the network), then according to the Russian-Turkish agreement Crimea belongs to Russia, and if Russia refuses Crimea, it comes under Turkish jurisdiction. There are no "Ukrainians" in this agreement!
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 25 June 2020 10: 04 New
      +7
      Nothing new No.. The Victory Parade is over, now American and German funds are sponsoring a protest against the amendments, including and the prohibition of the alienation of part of the territory of the Russian Federation.
      This article is a pure and detailed sketch on the info-fan of anti-Russian hysteria, as part of the terms of reference of the State Department. Now this chorus will be picked up by "our" 2% of the liberal sludge.
      By the way, why instead of the author of the article - "the site of the Kremlin"? request .
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 26 June 2020 16: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: Terenin
        By the way, why instead of the author of the article - "the site of the Kremlin"? ...

        Because official propaganda is anti-Russian. Really did not notice before that?
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 26 June 2020 17: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: AKuzenka
          Quote: Terenin
          By the way, why instead of the author of the article - "the site of the Kremlin"? ...

          Because official propaganda is anti-Russian. Really did not notice before that?

          Yes, Alexander, something I - burst what
    4. Qrank
      Qrank 25 June 2020 10: 33 New
      +1
      And here is another opinion, but not private - the Turkish party proposed to recognize Crimea as Russian

      Read more at RBC:
      https://www.rbc.ru/politics/24/06/2020/5ef388e09a7947572e3c9e36
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 25 June 2020 14: 30 New
        +7
        Quote: Qrank
        And here is another opinion, but not private ...

        But, and in Germany there are right comrades !!!
        Just the other day, in the city of Gelsenkirchen, a monument to Lenin was unveiled at the initiative of the Marxist-Leninist Party of Germany (MLPD) What Die Welt newspaper wrote about. The statue was cast in Czechoslovakia in 1957. Its height is more than 2 meters. There were opponents of this, but the Administrative Court allowed! Although the party of the MLPD is small, she managed to get it! Despite the protests. laughing good
        1. tech3030
          tech3030 26 June 2020 16: 39 New
          +4
          These are real comrades!
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 26 June 2020 18: 01 New
            +1
            Quote: tech3030
            These are real comrades!

            The ruling party and Merkel were against it.
  2. mark1
    mark1 25 June 2020 09: 05 New
    24
    Well, why discuss every jerk. He will agree to the extent that Crimea is a historical German land (some kind of Hitler Youth)
    1. sevryuk
      sevryuk 25 June 2020 09: 40 New
      +1
      And rename it Gothenland ...
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 25 June 2020 09: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: mark1
      Well, why discuss every jerk. He will agree to the extent that Crimea is a historical German land


      But during the period of the occupation of the peninsula, the Germans under the auspices of the odious "Ahnenerbe" carried out archaeological research in order to prove that the Nordic Aryan race had formed and began its progressive development there in the Bronze Age.

      Research began in July 1942. With the assistance of Gauleiter Alfred Frauenfeld, the first archaeological expedition to the peninsula was organized. The excavation team was supervised by the SS brigadenführer von Alvensleben.

      The excavation was also watched by two Wehrmacht officers - Captain Werner Baumelburg and Colonel Kalk. The overall direction of the archaeological work was entrusted to Alfred Rosenberg.


      Heinrich Himmler also equipped his expedition to Crimea. In search of the Crimean "treasures" Herbert Yankun was sent.

      In the summer of 1942, the expedition began exploration and excavation in the Crimea and the Northern Black Sea region. Dr. Carl Kerstein, who specialized in the Bronze Age of Northern Europe, helped Yankun. The second assistant was the archaeologist from Latvia, Baron von Seefeld. In addition to knowledge of the epoch of the Goths, he also spoke Russian, and therefore established relations with the local population.

      Excavations were carried out at Mangup-Kale, where the ancient Goth settlement was previously located. We managed to explore the cave cities. The main task of Nazi archaeologists was to find justifications for the presence of ancient Germans on the peninsula.

      Yankun was given the task of finding the capital of Gothia by analogy with the existence of Naples Scythian. By the way, the Nazis planned to explore the Scythian mounds in the Crimea.
      The Nazis managed to remove many valuable artifacts from the Museum of the Crimea, but the offensive of the Red Army prevented the excavation.

      The plan of the top Nazi Germany in the Crimea, included:

      · The project of the complete transformation of the peninsula into the German lands of Gotenland ("Gotenland"). Called the project "Gotengau".

      · Simferopol, according to the project was renamed Gottsburg, and Sevastopol became Theodorichshafen.

      · The plan of the route from Hamburg to the resorts of Crimea.

      · Relocate German families to Crimea, creating here a kind of German reviera.
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 26 June 2020 16: 43 New
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        But during the period of the occupation of the peninsula, the Germans under the auspices of the odious "Ahnenerbe" carried out archaeological research in order to prove that the Nordic Aryan race had formed and began its progressive development there in the Bronze Age.

        Me too! The Russians always knew this, because the Russians, Tatars, Bashkirs and other peoples who inhabited the USSR were direct descendants of the Aryans. And the Germans clung to it. They have an inferiority complex from this, and their brains have moved to one side.
      2. tech3030
        tech3030 26 June 2020 20: 04 New
        0
        Insurgent - I want to personally apologize to you for my statements! Was wrong! Not in this thread, but as it were.
    3. major147
      major147 25 June 2020 12: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: mark1
      He will agree to the extent that Crimea is a historical German land

      More Jews claimed the Crimean lands .... repeat
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 25 June 2020 13: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: major147
        More Jews claimed the Crimean lands ....

        There was a Jewish-Anglo-Saxon alliance on this subject, whose main guardian and lobbyist was W. Churchill ...

        And yet V.I. Stalin gave way to their coordinated pressure, and granted them autonomy ... in the Far East fellow
  3. Poetry
    Poetry 25 June 2020 09: 06 New
    +4
    In the queue ... kina children! Abyrvalg.
  4. Pereira
    Pereira 25 June 2020 09: 06 New
    +1
    I heard that ataman Gitlerenko was planning to take Crimea to himself. So can it be immediately transferred to Germany, without laying in the form of the Outskirts?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 25 June 2020 10: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: Pereira
      So can it be immediately transferred to Germany, without laying in the form of the Outskirts?

      They won’t take Crimea, but they’ll take the gasket.
      1. major147
        major147 25 June 2020 12: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        the gasket will be taken.

        Without residents. They simply won’t feed so many gorlopans ..
    2. boris epstein
      boris epstein 25 June 2020 15: 09 New
      +2
      People's Republic of China to them all! People's Republic of China can decrypt in their own way, but one of the options is the Kherson People’s Republic.
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 25 June 2020 09: 08 New
    +5
    It started Mr. eeeeeee water through the pipes ..... Our song is good, start from the beginning ... laughing
  6. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 25 June 2020 09: 08 New
    +6
    And the author of the opus, apparently, has Goebelsian historical roots.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 25 June 2020 11: 32 New
      +6
      Quote: x.andvlad
      And the author of the opus, apparently, has Goebelsian historical roots.

      The author of the opus simply did not bother to get acquainted with the text of the agreement between Russia and Turkey on the transition of Crimea to the Russian Empire, where the word "Ukraine" itself is completely absent as a concept. And yet, yes, at the time when the overseas masters of the current political beau monde of Germany were electing the first president of the United States, Crimea was Russian for several years.
  7. your1970
    your1970 25 June 2020 09: 09 New
    17
    Lord !! Yes, Germany even 150 years ago looked like a bunch of different states. And even each money issued its own ...
    About free cities, there’s even no talk. And this is a single state ????
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 June 2020 09: 11 New
    +9
    It is not even worth starting a discussion of this "vys ... ra" ... Historical excursion ... where he only learned this, about the majority of the Tatar population, about the "Tauride province" - a part of Ukraine ...
    Well, why on IN all this nonsense? Especially for the collection of statements, for the most part not censored?
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 25 June 2020 09: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Don't even start ...

      I agree with you in everything, as well as with other colleagues, except for the last phrase: you need to know the enemy. We’ll see a kilogram of such stuffing. Purposeful work is underway to replace concepts and Crimea is only a fraction.
  9. Topol M
    Topol M 25 June 2020 09: 12 New
    +2
    From a dead donkey ears, not Crimea Outskirts !!!!
  10. HAM
    HAM 25 June 2020 09: 13 New
    +7
    It contradicts itself: Crimea in the Russian Empire was more than two hundred years old, and in the Ukrainian SSR -30 ... .... so whose Crimea? Moreover, the Ukrainian SSR is no longer ...
    chickens don’t peck right in Kuyev ...
    1. Poetry
      Poetry 25 June 2020 09: 29 New
      +8
      The most interesting thing is that the fan of banging his boot on the podium grossly violated the then Constitution, according to which there should have been two referendums on secession from the RSFSR. "Kemsk volost? Let them take it."
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 27 June 2020 09: 50 New
        +1
        Well, this bald one has done so much that it only swears and remains. What is in, categorically unaware.
        1. Poetry
          Poetry 27 June 2020 09: 54 New
          0
          It is impossible. I have already been punished. Sometimes there are not enough words. Some epithets ...
          Peace to you.
  11. Pravodel
    Pravodel 25 June 2020 09: 15 New
    +8
    It’s amazing whether the journalist-journalists generally lost their conscience, or maybe they didn’t have it, or they got stoned or got drunk for writing an article ... It would be nice, before writing such articles, to ask the French and English with whom they fought in times Crimean wars, probably with aliens or with Indians evicted from America, who later switched to the Russian side and returned to America through Alaska. Then one could ask the relatives of U. Churchill, if they are still alive, who killed his ancestors during the Crimean War and on whose territory they are buried. By the way, W. Churchill specially went to bow to the ashes of his ancestors during the meeting of the Big Three in Yalta. He would have been surprised if he had been told then that his ancestors had been killed by aliens or, for example, rebellious sepoys settled in the Crimea. Indeed, in truth, it could be aliens or sepoys ...
    And so, the more nonsense the journalists invent, the better everyone lives in a prosperous Europe.
  12. 210ox
    210ox 25 June 2020 09: 15 New
    11
    This German just lives on another planet. He was especially touched by the belief that the Tatars represent the majority of the inhabitants of the peninsula. Big child who was puffed up in his ears.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 25 June 2020 10: 08 New
      +6
      Quote: 210ox
      Big child who was puffed up in his ears.

      Dmitry, I don’t know about the ears, but they definitely cheated it on the wallet.

      Somewhere in the telegram channel Golovanov, the Germans themselves laid out the terms of reference of the State Department with the dates and prices of publications and their payment. Even receipts in receiving this money.
  13. V1er
    V1er 25 June 2020 09: 15 New
    +6
    The Germans would still tell us if our Russian Crimea has a connection with Russia or does not. I think that Berlin is not a German city, you need to return it to the Franks, like all lands. After all, present-day Germany grew out of the East French kingdom.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 25 June 2020 09: 26 New
      +3
      That's when the Germans give Berlin to the Franks, then we will return Crimea to the Greeks. The ancient Greeks.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 26 June 2020 21: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: V1er
      After all, present-day Germany grew out of the East French kingdom.

      Berlin was founded by the Slavs.
      1. Liam
        Liam 26 June 2020 21: 27 New
        -1
        The first mention of Berlin is 1237.
        And Albrecht the Bear expelled the Slavs by 1157 and settled the deputy flanders, the Dutch, etc.
      2. V1er
        V1er 27 June 2020 06: 26 New
        0
        Well. Also, the Slavs need to return a lot. The Germans have a lot of work, there is no time to talk about Crimea.
  14. EvilLion
    EvilLion 25 June 2020 09: 16 New
    +7
    And the German is aware that the bulk of Ukrainians according to the passport, having received new passports, recorded themselves as Russians, and Crimean Tatars, who in Ukraine were practically non-civilian there, about 10 percent of the population?
    1. major147
      major147 25 June 2020 12: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: EvilLion
      And the German is aware that the bulk of Ukrainians according to the passport, having received new passports, recorded themselves as Russians, and Crimean Tatars, who in Ukraine were practically non-civilian there, about 10 percent of the population?

      I didn't find the "nationality" column in my Russian passport request
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 25 June 2020 12: 33 New
        +6
        Especially. We do not know all Russian citizens and no "Ukrainians".
  15. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 25 June 2020 09: 17 New
    +2
    It is interesting, then, when Crimea was Ukrainian if you do not take into account the transfer of Khrushchev to the Ukrainian SSR?
  16. helmi8
    helmi8 25 June 2020 09: 17 New
    +6
    According to the author, all the allegations that Crimea has historical roots with Russia are just a common myth. Crimea was conquered in 1783 by Catherine II, and from 1802 to 1917 Crimea was part of the Tauride province, connecting Crimea with the current southern part of continental Ukraine, but not Russia. From 1954 to 1991, Crimea was part of the Ukrainian Soviet Republic

    The author with logic and knowledge of the history of the problem ... Until 1917, there was no talk of Ukraine. There was a Russian empire. Ukraine, as part of the USSR, was formed in 1919. WITHOUT CRIMEA. And only since 1954, Khrushchev included Crimea in Ukraine. And who has more historical ties?
  17. Evdokim
    Evdokim 25 June 2020 09: 21 New
    +4
    What a spreading cranberry. Yes, even with such an abstruse tone. Well, just bushes of red caviar. laughing
  18. Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 25 June 2020 09: 21 New
    +8
    Crimea has never had deep historical ties with Russia, and despite all the statements, after the end of Putin’s reign, the peninsula will again return to Ukraine

    And what is the matter of the German Andreas Umland to the Crimea. If he is really German.
    He would have better taken care of the problems with the influx of all rabble into Germany.
  19. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 25 June 2020 09: 25 New
    +5
    And Kaliningrad is always Russian!
  20. rocket757
    rocket757 25 June 2020 09: 26 New
    +2
    With such a statement in his article for the German edition of Focus made Andreas Umland.

    Fu, fu, fu, I read ka into something obscene got involved.
    It’s not beautiful, it’s not .... distorting other people's names \ surnames, but Dur / A \ k - the land is suitable for this shot more than ever.
    Moreover, with education there, by the word, there is no way and forever ... although, tossing such silverfish or greens, they also recognize their own mother as a stranger who is not his own or not related.
  21. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 25 June 2020 09: 26 New
    0
    And Kaliningrad is always Russian!
    1. Poetry
      Poetry 25 June 2020 09: 43 New
      0
      I’m not repeating it twice. I do not repeat. Was the conversation about Crimea or am I confusing something?
  22. Sibguest
    Sibguest 25 June 2020 09: 33 New
    +1
    Will give east fantastic!
    Herr Umland - you need to change your surname according to your inflection: remove the first two letters.
  23. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 25 June 2020 09: 34 New
    +3
    Dreams, dreams where is your sweetness, dreams are gone, muck remains! And Germany was never German, but originally a Slavic territory! And Hitler was never a flayer, but an angel! About such "analysts" (from the word anus), Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov clearly said: "Morons bl .... b"
  24. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 25 June 2020 09: 41 New
    +4
    As always, statements about correct and incorrect unification of territories sound ridiculous.
    Those that are conducted by the West are correct, if it concerns Russia it is not right. lol
    And Germany eighty years ago squeezed the Sudetenland from the Czech Republic and then all the advanced and civilized European powers unanimously supported and recognized this robbery.
  25. Campanella
    Campanella 25 June 2020 09: 55 New
    +4
    Counter offer, again to separate East Germany from Germany!
    Different Germans live ideologically and mentally there. Let this ylo prove that it is not.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 25 June 2020 10: 47 New
      +2
      I support. Well, very different people. And for some reason they don’t like blacks, but the GDR still loves
  26. Errr
    Errr 25 June 2020 10: 05 New
    +2
    From the article:
    Crimea has never had deep historical ties with Russia, and despite all the statements, after the end of Putin’s reign, the peninsula will again return to Ukraine ...
    Blah blah blah, blah blah blah ...
    With such a statement in his article for the German edition of Focus made Andreas Umland.

    Well, here’s quite a bit of Wiki smile :
    Andreas Umland (German: Andreas Umland, b. 1967) - German political scientist. Founder and chief editor of the book series “Soviet and Post-Soviet Politics and Society” - “Soviet and Post-Soviet Politics and Society” of the German scientific publishing house “Ibidem”, Stuttgart / Hanover (125 volumes from 2004 to 2013). He is a specialist in the fields of Russian ultranationalism, European neofascism and comparative democratization, as well as post-Soviet higher humanitarian education and social studies. The author of more than 180 scientific and journalistic articles about today's extremist trends and political transformations in Eastern Europe.
    Since 2010, lecturer at the German Academic Exchange Service (DAAD) and Associate Professor, Master's Program in German and European Studios, Department of Political Science, National University of Kyiv-Mohyla Academy, Ukraine. Regularly published in Open Democracy (London), Harvard International Review (Cambridge, Mass.), Foreign Policy Journal (Washington), Ukrainian Truth (Kiev), “Mirror of the week” (Kiev), Ukraine-Analysen (Bremen), "Ukraine-Nachrichten" (Dresden). Member of the Institute for Central and Eastern European Studies of the Catholic University of Eichstätt since 2008. Founder of the Kiev Political Discussion Club of the German Academic Exchange Service (DAAD). Member of the Valdai International Discussion Club and the International Advisory Council of the Rights in Russia Charitable Organization (Great Britain) since 2010. Member of the Scientific and Expert Council of the Committee for European Integration of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine and the Civil Council of the Ukrainian Section of the International Association of Students of Political Science since 2013
    Everything is very clear - the uncle of Natsik is studying. Only now, he wouldn’t have been ill by chance, otherwise nazi love - she's so unpredictable ... lol
    And the geography of this figure must be repeated, so as not to freeze more about the "Russian minority" in Crimea. You look, and on Valdai you would pass for a smart one. laughing
  27. Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 25 June 2020 10: 13 New
    +1
    You know, to me personally, "before the light", what shredders and so on. Gansy say. The local population has once killed a white horse and where did this population end up ???.
    And what’s interesting, but for what ... Hans got into the Crimea?
    I understand that the Turks would blather ...
  28. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 25 June 2020 10: 14 New
    +4
    German "2" for knowledge / understanding of history
    About Ebn: so he forgot about him, in a drunken stupor and from "prospects"
  29. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 25 June 2020 10: 21 New
    +3
    Crimea cannot be compared with the German Democratic Republic, and modern Russia - with West Germany in 1990. Crimea compared with the Russian Federation is much smaller than the GDR compared with the then Federal Republic
    If Crimea is smaller than the GDR, then this can be quickly fixed. Or Crimea to make more of the GDR, or GDR less of the Crimea.
  30. Amur
    Amur 25 June 2020 10: 23 New
    +4
    Man divorced from reality.
    1. major147
      major147 25 June 2020 12: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Amur
      Man divorced from reality.

      "Russians do not want to spend huge finances on its maintenance."

      He also asked all Russians what they want and what not. lol
  31. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 25 June 2020 10: 44 New
    +2
    he, adding that, unlike Russia and the Crimea, western and eastern Germany have been linked historically for centuries, on their territory lived one people, not different.

    author (Andreas Umland) Also dumb. Firstly, it does not know how to count. Crimea as part of Russia is longer in time than a united Germany exists. Secondly, Germany, before unification by Bismarck, was not at all one nation. There, according to rumors, the Bavarian dude from Rostock understood with difficulty or even did not understand at all
  32. ZVS
    ZVS 25 June 2020 10: 48 New
    +1
    What matters to the Germans in Crimea? They should raise the question of Poland transferring the former lands of Germany.
  33. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 25 June 2020 10: 56 New
    +2
    And I can tell Herr Tupland that the Black Sea is historically called the Russian Sea ...
  34. faterdom
    faterdom 25 June 2020 11: 04 New
    0
    With such a statement in his article for the German edition of Focus made Andreas Umland.

    And to give him the honorary title "Durland". And then he clearly does not pull on Umland.
  35. Karaul73
    Karaul73 25 June 2020 11: 17 New
    0
    Quote: Svetlana
    That private opinion, no more. And not all Germans think so. The same Schroeder, for example, says the opposite.

    If you also pay the author of the article as Schroeder, then he will change his mind to a mirror. And the truth is somewhere in between. Let's live in peace!
  36. camo ridges
    camo ridges 25 June 2020 11: 30 New
    +2
    Lord, how many more idiots around the world are hanging around, how many
    "wonderful discoveries" are prepared by their spirit, unclouded by reason.
    This one, another one - he’ve been to Crimea at least once
    through the streets of the peninsula, with at least one resident
    word spread? Hardly, otherwise I would not be able to
    to write such wildness. As they say, crowed,
    and there at least grass does not grow. Apparently, by order of the broad lads
    tried ...
  37. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 25 June 2020 11: 44 New
    +1
    You read the articles of Westerners and you are convinced that the pan-sauce, which appeared in Ukraine, is an even more dangerous virus than coronavirus.
  38. NordUral
    NordUral 25 June 2020 11: 49 New
    0
    Deal with your lands first, and then begin to carry nonsense, if there is still a desire.
  39. tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 25 June 2020 11: 50 New
    0
    Another "masterpiece" of another ignoramus. The question is, who is he? An engaged hack or an uneducated journalist?
  40. -ш-
    -ш- 25 June 2020 11: 59 New
    0
    how are you to bavaria?
  41. vblotov
    vblotov 25 June 2020 12: 02 New
    +2
    In fact, the author is dense, like a century-old oak forest. He does not know the state system of Russia at the beginning of the 20th century and repeats the ravings of the nationalists of Ukraine. Crimea, immediately after joining Russia, was part of the provinces of Novorossia, which was not Ukraine. and the Tauride province bordered on the region of the Don army in the east, the Ekaterinoslav province in the north and the Kherson province in the west. The main population of Novorossia were Russians and Potemkin allowed the Little Russian peasants who fled from serfdom to settle. They were thrust into the bondage by Catherine II, who for some reason decided that it would be better. Were in serfdom among the Polish lords - they will stay with their landowners. The fool in this matter understood how this German. After the revolution and civil war in 1921, the Tauride province was divided into two parts. The north before Perekop became part of the Kherson and Donetsk regions, and the south after Perekop (actually the Crimea peninsula) became part of the formed Crimean Tatar Autonomous Republic within the RSFSR, which lasted until 1942. For two years she was in Germany, where Hitler had his own plans for the settlement of Crimea by the Germans and the creation of a naval base on the Black Sea in Sevastopol, and since 1944, after the eviction of the Crimean Tatars, the Crimean region was formed as part of the RSFSR. The leadership of the USSR had their own plans for the Crimean region, where they planned to resettle all Jews and form the Jewish Autonomous Republic, and even began resettlement. BUT 1952, Stalin died and Nikitka Khrushchev came to power, who on the birthday of his wife, Western Khokhlukh, presented Crimea to Ukraine without asking Crimean residents and even the leadership of the RSFSR under the guise that Crimea has no common borders with Russia. Or maybe it was easier to return Novorossia to the RSFSR and the residents would support and the common border was restored ?. But the Germans in general are not harmful to dream. It’s not harmful to dream.
  42. +5
    +5 25 June 2020 12: 23 New
    +1
    Umland is a famous pepper ... his "opinion", or rather the propaganda channel, has been known for a long time and therefore is not interesting, he also has nothing to do with the Germans themselves, their opinions and interests ...
  43. aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 June 2020 12: 29 New
    0
    Andreas Umland spoke for the German edition of Focus.
    The usual Western ordering against Russia.
  44. teron
    teron 25 June 2020 12: 46 New
    0
    The look of a Martian. It seems to refer to history, but what happened and is happening in the Crimea is a complete zero.
  45. Sovpadenie
    Sovpadenie 25 June 2020 12: 50 New
    +3
    "Military seizure of the peninsula in 2014" It is strange somehow ... And where are the long and prolonged battles? And where is the partisan movement aimed at driving out the invaders?
  46. 1536
    1536 25 June 2020 13: 29 New
    +3
    Zadolbali these German neo-Nazis! As stupid as their fathers and grandfathers. Germans, GDR - this is your fate. You are not going anywhere from her. And the sooner you realize that all your Reichs and empires are fiction and ordinary universal evil, the sooner you begin to restore the GDR, the better for you. And stop looking at the East and kiss the berets of American soldiers and presidents. Russia will not give you a third chance, tired of it!
  47. Disorder
    Disorder 25 June 2020 13: 42 New
    +1
    According to the author, all statements that the Crimea is linked with Russia by historical roots are "just a widespread myth." Crimea was conquered in 1783 by Catherine II, and from 1802 to 1917 Crimea was part of the Taurida province, connecting Crimea with the present southern part of continental Ukraine, but not Russia. From 1954 to 1991, Crimea was part of the Ukrainian Soviet Republic, so when the Soviet Union collapsed, it was left in its composition, and then Russian President Boris Yeltsin admitted it.


    Well, for the truth, no one would pay him anything. So I had to dodge.
    If you raise the maps of the times of the Tauride province, we see that Ukraine did not exist at all.


    And from 1917 to 1954. Crimea was not Ukrainian. from and it turns out that he was part of Ukraine for only 60 years, of which 37 years was part of the Ukrainian SSR.
  48. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 25 June 2020 14: 11 New
    +1
    Another delusional generator dumped a new batch without knowing what it was writing about.
  49. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 25 June 2020 14: 38 New
    0
    The native of the territory is a former conqueror!
  50. Kibl
    Kibl 25 June 2020 14: 39 New
    +2
    Yes, it’s just the Germans that the toad is strangling, they certainly would like a flag with a swastika to develop over the Crimea.