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The network discusses information about the incident with a soldier and a FSO car before the Victory Parade

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The network discusses information about the incident with a soldier and a FSO car before the Victory Parade

The network is actively discussing information that was distributed to the media a few hours after the Victory Day parade that ended in Moscow. We are talking about an incident involving a military conscript who allegedly shouted negative words at the special services and broke windows in the car of the Federal Security Service.


If you believe the published data, then the soldier was transferred to the reserve, and “before that was among the participants historical parts of the parade. "

The famous Russian television and radio journalist Vladimir Solovyov, commenting on the incident in his authoring program on YouTube, called the incident a provocation.

According to the journalist, a soldier in his explanatory note after the incident wrote the following: “I thought that I was being watched from a standing car and that they tried to irradiate me.”

Solovyov added that the guy, apparently, “baked his head completely.”

It has been suggested that “the conscript soldier was offended that he was transferred to the reserve,” and that is why he began to hit the FSO car on the glass.

At the same time, the media stated that the transfer to the reserve of this serviceman (some of his data is indicated - Nikita E.) was carried out after the intervention of the FSB officers. It is also added that thereby "a serious incident was prevented during the parade."
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 25 June 2020 06: 56 New
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    At the same time, the media stated that the transfer to the reserve of this serviceman (some of his data is indicated - Nikita E.) was carried out after the intervention of the FSB officers. It is also added that thereby "a serious incident was prevented during the parade."
    Well done. hi Only the bastards in the parade were not enough for us. angry
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 25 June 2020 07: 26 New
      27
      Here, in order to prevent this, they are trying to better select people for the participants.
      Just do not always check all well, too many people.
      However, the one who allowed this soldier to the parade will now have a bad time.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 25 June 2020 07: 41 New
        +8
        Quote: Shurik70
        However, the one who allowed this soldier to the parade will now have a bad time.

        Either "stepped" on the glass, or the "joint" smoked, well, the bay was carried.
        1. To be or not to be
          To be or not to be 25 June 2020 08: 26 New
          +2
          1.Jura News issued - “He served in military unit No. 61899”
          https://ura.news/news/1052437829
          2. The wiki is given by the 27th Separate Guards Motorized Rifle Sevastopol Red Banner Brigade named after the 60th anniversary of the USSR - a tactical formation of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
          Conditional name - Military unit No. 61899 (military unit 61899). Short name - 27 guards. Omsbr
          The unit is part of the 1st Guards Tank Army of the Western Military District. Point of permanent deployment in the village. Mosrentgen, Novomoskovsk administrative district of Moscow. "
          Psychologists. The new apparatus of political workers .. and all the same, a span.
          Well. That the FSO worked
          1. Moore
            Moore 25 June 2020 08: 59 New
            +7
            Quote: To be or not to be
            Psychologists .new apparatus of political workers..and all the same, a span

            Ljuljatins will now rake everything ... Political workers will get theirs, but blame them on the lack of work on the part of the commanders.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 25 June 2020 09: 10 New
              0
              Quote: Moore
              Political workers will get theirs, but blamed on the lack of work on the part of the commanders.

              When another strict reprimand was announced to me at the time, they said the political commander is always right.
              1. Thompson
                Thompson 25 June 2020 16: 04 New
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                That's how the next word confirms the fact. that the political officer was right wink laughing
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 25 June 2020 19: 53 New
                  +1
                  Name of a moron - Nikita Igorevich Eroshenko
                  And in the photo he is with awards!

                  https://lenta.ru/brief/2020/06/25/paradd/
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent 25 June 2020 08: 38 New
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          The network discusses information about the incident with a soldier and a FSO car before the Victory Parade

          There are other examplesOn the contrary,highest level of self-control.

          In Kaliningrad, a woman who lost her shoe during the parade will be awarded


          MOSCOW, June 24 - RIA Novosti. One of the participants in the Victory Parade in Kaliningrad lost a shoe, but continued to march, Komsomolskaya Pravda reported.
          The incident was published by REN TV. The frames show how a girl with a bare foot keeps up with the rest.



          According to the newspaper, the commander of the Baltic Fleet, Alexander Nosatov, promised to encourage her.
          "Having lost her shoes, she did not knock down the formation. And no one even noticed. Therefore, please provide me her last name separately."


          https://ria.ru/20200624/1573423710.html
          1. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 25 June 2020 09: 00 New
            +7
            Quote: Insurgent
            The frames show how a girl with a bare foot keeps up with the rest.

            Something needs to be done with charter shoes. wink
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 25 June 2020 09: 13 New
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              Quote: There was a mammoth
              Something needs to be done with charter shoes.

              Guys in the army to take, and women to give birth to children.
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 25 June 2020 19: 55 New
                +2
                But still smart. I did not fail.
            2. Alex Justice
              Alex Justice 25 June 2020 11: 17 New
              +3
              Cut the heels
              1. sedoj
                sedoj 25 June 2020 22: 08 New
                +4
                To walk in combat, shoes should be with straps on the top so as not to be distracted by holding them on the foot. Or boots, as in China.

                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 26 June 2020 07: 43 New
                  +2
                  Quote: sedoj
                  Or boots, as in China.

                  The boot for the parade, the most beautiful sight at all times.
                  1. Alex Justice
                    Alex Justice 27 June 2020 11: 00 New
                    0
                    The boot for the parade, the most beautiful sight at all times.

                    With spurs
                2. Ross xnumx
                  Ross xnumx 27 June 2020 03: 55 New
                  +1
                  Quote: sedoj
                  To walk in combat, shoes should be with straps on the top so as not to be distracted by holding them on the foot.

                  good
                  Quote: sedoj
                  Or boots, as in China.

                  And in China, where did the boots come from? Those that ours have forgotten?
                  There is something to think about. No wonder the girls dance in boots:
          2. SASHA OLD
            SASHA OLD 25 June 2020 15: 04 New
            +2
            well done girl holding a step!
        3. raw174
          raw174 25 June 2020 10: 58 New
          +3
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Either "stepped" on the glass, or the "joint" smoked, well, the bay was carried.

          It looks like delirium tremens, but for this you need to abuse for a long time and then do not drink for 2-5 days. I personally know one drunk, I was told how his employees of the American special services from the tinted car periodically irradiate ... The other day, the district police officer sent him to a fool, for treatment ...
        4. Doctor
          Doctor 25 June 2020 11: 58 New
          +1
          Either "stepped" on the glass, or smoked a joint

          That's right, an amateur of both, but they will try to make a "fighter against the regime" ...
          Photo of "hero" in civilian life.



          1. Catfish
            Catfish 25 June 2020 13: 14 New
            +3
            Personally familiar, is he your buddy? Where did the photo come from?
            1. Doctor
              Doctor 25 June 2020 13: 48 New
              +3
              Personally familiar, is he your buddy? Where did the photo come from?

              Social networks are discussing, already installed, now it's fast.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 25 June 2020 14: 37 New
                0
                Well, who - what you like. request
                1. Doctor
                  Doctor 25 June 2020 14: 51 New
                  +1
                  Well, who - what you like.

                  It’s bad that this is used for propaganda. Already started.
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 25 June 2020 15: 03 New
                    +1
                    I mean, what exactly? The fact that the kid was inadequate or that "the bloody gebnya again mutilates people"?
                    1. Doctor
                      Doctor 25 June 2020 15: 09 New
                      +2
                      I mean, what exactly? The fact that the kid was inadequate or that "the bloody gebnya again mutilates people"?

                      Well, for example, the following context already sounds: one for a paper cup in riot police gives a real term, and the other pounding with a butt and do not even start things.
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 25 June 2020 15: 21 New
                        0
                        In America, for example, in response to the "paper cup", the police simply shot ... but until recently.
                        ... one for a paper cup in riot police give a real term, and the other pounding with a butt and even things won’t start.

                        Well, it’s right if someone doesn’t have enough mind to realize that it’s time to change the paper cup to a normal butt. request laughing
                      2. Doctor
                        Doctor 25 June 2020 15: 28 New
                        +1
                        Well, it’s right if someone doesn’t have enough mind to realize that it’s time to change the paper cup to a normal butt.

                        Again bloodthirsty? Do not. Enough real opponent in power.
                      3. Catfish
                        Catfish 25 June 2020 15: 30 New
                        0
                        Ide to take? Do you know? Me not. All these faces are disgusting to me, that those that are these. request
                      4. Doctor
                        Doctor 25 June 2020 15: 49 New
                        -1
                        Ide to take? Do you know? Me not. All these faces are disgusting to me, that those that are these.

                        There are separate leaders. There is no extras - an economic basis for at least two parties.
                        In the West, these are two business groups within the country.

                        Conservatives - a strong state, strengthening the family, marriage and religion, freedom of enterprise and privatization, tax cuts, market regulation and strong social guarantees.
                        Development in their view: the active stimulation of innovation while protecting the national economy from adverse external influences.
                        Examples are Trump, Thatcher, Lee Kuan Yew (Singapore).

                        Liberals are the main people, social and political rights of all groups of the population, small business, against the omnipotence of large monopolies, a free market, reducing the role of the state to the functions of a “night watchman” who monitors order, without interfering in the life of citizens.
                        Examples: Obama, Yeltsin.

                        We have the horrors of the transition to a liberal economy in the 90s compromised the liberal idea, but thanks to it, hunger has finally disappeared in Russia.
                        In principle, it is impossible in an unregulated market, grub and cowards are always delivered, prices are another matter.
                      5. Catfish
                        Catfish 25 June 2020 16: 29 New
                        +3
                        Yura, I have been living in Russia since 1947, during this time there were various problems and there were many of them, but there was no hunger. After all, I not only lived in Moscow, but also rode around the country due to some "irrepressible character". There was no hunger. There was no smoked sausage on the open market even in Moscow, but this is not hunger. I don’t want to talk about it, because this topic is so obvious to me that there is nothing to argue about here.
                      6. Doctor
                        Doctor 25 June 2020 17: 02 New
                        -3
                        I have been living in Russia since 1947

                        Just at 47 and was extreme. The people in Kursk, Belgorod, Voronezh loaded the scrub on wheelbarrows and crab in the Donbass, on heavy work in mines. But there they fed and even paid money.

                        Just imagine the eyes of a man who has fallen from the Brezhnev (far from hungry) times to the current supermarket.
                        There is a famous photo of pensive Yeltsin in an American supermarket. laughing But he was sitting on special rations.
                        They say that on the way home, on the plane, he decided on radical reforms.
                      7. Catfish
                        Catfish 25 June 2020 17: 13 New
                        +8
                        Yeltsin thought? Well, that’s clearly enough.
                        ... on the way home, on the plane, he ...
                        ... he got corny drunk like a pig, and it seems that in Ireland the leadership of this country stood for half an hour near the ladder of Bork's plane while the sixes tried to wake him up. You don't need to tell me about Borka and his time, otherwise I will lose all respect for you. I didn’t live my life in Taldom, but on Tsvetnoy Boulevard in Moscow, and I didn’t turn a lathe, but worked in one of the central museums of the capital. By the way, native Muscovites understood everything as well as certified associate professors. Mottos like "eat, drink, hit the face" are for limits, which ultimately killed Moscow.
                        You shouldn't agitate me, it's useless, even in the process of "intimate conversation".
                      8. Doctor
                        Doctor 25 June 2020 18: 00 New
                        -3
                        . he trite drunk like a pig, and it seems in Ireland

                        I agree 200% that the main distributor of the country is Yeltsin.

                        But that was back in 1989 in Houston, he was a deputy of the USSR.

                        Lev Sukhanov, who accompanied Yeltsin during that visit, describes his emotions from visiting the supermarket as follows:
                        Already on the plane, Boris Nikolaevich for a long time renounced. He sat holding his head in his hands, and a struggle of feelings was clearly visible on his face.
                        When Yeltsin came to his senses a little, he gave vent to his feelings: “What have our poor people brought to,” he lamented. “They have been telling tales all their lives, they have been inventing something all their lives. But everything in the world has already been invented, but no for people, apparently, this is ... "
                        [i] [/ i]

                      9. Catfish
                        Catfish 25 June 2020 18: 13 New
                        +9
                        Boring, boring, Yuri, reading all this. I studied with my father-in-law with Raika and Mishka at the same faculty and I know very well what they were like. I don’t want to say anything about Borka. He worried about the people ... I got drunk like dirt and dreamed about supermarkets for Ryazan Vanka .. Yeah ... Maybe enough?
                  2. Tatiana Egorova
                    Tatiana Egorova 26 June 2020 10: 33 New
                    +4
                    In Brezhnev’s times, there was no such divide in incomes among the country's population.
                    Gorbachev and Yeltsin have no bottom or tires, perestroika.
                  3. Doctor
                    Doctor 26 June 2020 10: 45 New
                    0
                    In Brezhnev’s times, there was no such divide in incomes among the country's population.
                    Gorbachev and Yeltsin have no bottom or tires, perestroika.

                    Look at your clothes, shoes, look at the situation, look in the fridge, go to the supermarket, buy your bags, load the trunk of your car with 20 types of sausage, 15 types of cheese and 50 types of alcohol.
                    Take a trip to Antalya to relax on a warm beach under the gentle hands of Turkish masseurs.

                    And then stop and think about whether you agree to part with all this and return to the era of the USSR for the sake of the death of several dozen millionaires unknown to you, and help the fraternal Turkish people,
                    which you will see only at the congress in Moscow, because they will not let you out to Turkey?
                  4. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 26 June 2020 19: 36 New
                    +2
                    "... 20 types of sausages, 15 types of cheeses and 50 types of cognac ..." - how much meat is there in that sausage, how much milk and not vegetable fats in those cheeses, how much is legally produced cognac and vodka? "Achievement" is the Internet on which we are now arguing, but otherwise only losses (although the PRC also has an Internet, only highly regulated). The USSR is dearer to me than all the sausages and cheeses in the world put together.
                  5. Doctor
                    Doctor 26 June 2020 20: 46 New
                    -3
                    The USSR is more dear to me than all sausages and cheeses of the world combined.

                    This is what you came up with. Sausage and cheese are material, without them we won’t live, and the USSR just conditional borders on the map, disappeared, as it was not.
                  6. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 26 June 2020 21: 05 New
                    0
                    In the world of capitalism, only money is real. Without money, they will not sell a product, for example, sausage, and you (conditional you) will starve to death on the doorstep of the "sausage shop". Conventional lines on the maps are drawn with the blood of millions of soldiers (over many centuries). An example of conventional lines - after the collapse of the USSR, Russians were killed in Tajikistan, in Latvia Russians became "blacks" (not citizens) - to be on the other side of the "conventional lines" may be dangerous for our life and health. To cross the "conditional line of the EU" (or the USA) you need a VISA, without a visa "conditional line locked" ...
                  7. Doctor
                    Doctor 26 June 2020 21: 47 New
                    -1

                    In the world of capitalism, only money is real. Without money, they will not sell a product, for example, sausage, and you (conditional you) will starve to death on the doorstep of the "sausage shop". Conventional lines on the maps are drawn with the blood of millions of soldiers (over many centuries).

                    In the world of socialism, money played an equally important role. And the boundaries are in people's heads. It was people who came up with the idea that one can go here, and no longer can, but since nature does not understand this, then to confirm their mythical beliefs, they needed a PCB, a thorn, border guards and shepherd dogs. Also, people came up with to fasten the protection of virtual borders with blood.

                    You can easily survive abroad if you have sausage (or its cash equivalent).
                    And vice versa, thousands of people in the 30s died of starvation, being inside the borders of their native USSR.
                  8. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 26 June 2020 22: 11 New
                    +2
                    Borders in the heads of bosses, for them, borders are needed first of all - for bosses, borders serve as a limitation of their power, or vice versa, infinity ... For ordinary people, borders mostly serve for protection. Survival abroad is associated with the availability of money (and with us too). I say for me the USSR is more important than the presence of sausages in the store. Do you really think that Yuri should choose the homeland to taste the sausage?
                  9. Doctor
                    Doctor 26 June 2020 23: 16 New
                    0
                    Borders are in the heads of the chiefs, it is for them, first of all, that borders are needed - for the chiefs of the border they serve as a limitation of their power, or vice versa, infinity ...

                    You caught the essence, here, as in the animal kingdom, the leading group, led by the leader, captures the area, draws a conditional border, organizes protection, and expands (or becomes more crowded) as the power and number of members increase.
                  10. Doctor
                    Doctor 26 June 2020 23: 24 New
                    -1
                    I say for me the USSR is more important than the presence of sausages in the store. Do you really think that Yuri should choose the homeland to taste the sausage?

                    It is ideal to be at home and with sausage, the question is the size of the homeland.
                    For some, this is a native village, others think on the scale of a clan clan and a republic, and some do not see their life without a Federation.
                    As time has shown, the USSR was not a fairly uniform entity; you yourself wrote:

                    after the collapse of the USSR, Russians were killed in Tajikistan, in Latvia Russians became "blacks"


                    I will say more, I’m not sure that all the ballast was shook off, because we are already the largest country in the world.
                    What do you personally lack - the deserts of the Karakum, Riga seaside or the Carpathian mountains?
                    You can already have all this and even more - the whole world is in your pocket, the main thing is to have enough sausage equivalent. wink
                  11. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 26 June 2020 23: 45 New
                    +1
                    "Extra land" - there is no - everything always depends on the ability to use the land. The "gold reserve" is also "ballast". Let's remember how WE (Russia) "dogged themselves" with Ukraine because of Fr. Tuzla, arguing over whose strait and how to swim in it (Tuzla was at first the Tuzla spit and belonged to the Krasnodar Territory. Then the sea washed out the gully and Tuzla Island appeared. Then some "shortage" handed over the island to the Ukrainian SSR. When the USSR ordered to "live long" Russia lost its free exit from the Sea of ​​Azov, at first everything was quiet, and then Ukraine "got the reins under the tail" and it began ... Today, Crimea is OUR and Russia has no problems with the exit from the Azov Sea to the Black Sea.) Every inch of land is important, with to the czars-priests for every "inch of land" the peasants were ready to kill their neighbors.
                  12. Doctor
                    Doctor 26 June 2020 23: 57 New
                    0
                    Extra land "- there is no

                    Every inch of land is important, under the tsars-priests for every "inch of land" the peasants were ready to kill their neighbors.

                    Yes, but the problem is that on this earth, as a rule, someone already lives and is often alien and unwilling to assimilate.
                    The Spanish conquistadors and the Anglo-Saxon colonialists of America, Canada and Australia prompt a radical solution to the problem - the future territory must first be cleared from the natives.
                    One can agree with this option, but how do you imagine it in the current conditions?
                    And to return on the terms of the USSR, for example, ethnically alien republics of Central Asia, despite the fact that we all feed from the pipe - thank you.
                    Already fed one Horde, that's enough.
                  13. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 27 June 2020 00: 15 New
                    +1
                    First you need to return Narva with the RUSSIAN population. In principle, nothing has changed today. Here the EU is populated by "refugees", "European blue aborigines" are being forced out of Europe. The problem of the "collapse" of the USSR is that they were unable to raise the SOVIET power elite in the national republics. The elite who fully realized themselves as a PART of the USSR - all "rebellions" were started by local bosses with the support of "lousy intelligentsia" in the localities. Simply put, in the USSR, a RUSSIAN man was ruined, but a SOVIET man was not created.
                  14. Doctor
                    Doctor 27 June 2020 00: 27 New
                    0
                    Simply put, in the USSR - they ruined a RUSSIAN man, but did not create a SOVIET man.

                    I doubt that this is even possible. Events in the States show that you can’t wash off a black dog.
                    There is a Caucasian race, there are Mongoloid and interracial marriages - a rarity. This cannot be undone by social add-ons.
                  15. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 27 June 2020 00: 39 New
                    +1
                    So the trouble of the USSR is that the RUSSIAN man was killed - the Ukrainians were invented, and let the inhabitants of Belarus not be offended by the Belarusians the same. Under the tsars-priests, the border of Russia with the Kazakhs was along the Yaik-Ural River, the Soviet government gave the Kazakhs lands almost along the Volga itself, and it was so everywhere in the lands of the former Russian Empire - they gave land for free, and then everyone fled and Russia remained "on bobs "... and with the debts of the USSR.
                  16. Doctor
                    Doctor 27 June 2020 00: 45 New
                    0
                    So the trouble of the USSR is that they killed a RUSSIAN man

                    Yes, because it was used in the tail and mane.
                    As a resource, the same as oil, steel, timber, etc.
                    To build a world revolution and trenches and mines.
                  17. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 27 June 2020 01: 02 New
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                    There is also a very big problem - the sovereigns are not of Russian bloods or not of Russian consciousness, for them to sell Alaska too - because it is far from giving the Kuril Islands to Japan for friendship (about Alexander 2), and the Crimea to "give" and the same Kuriles "to give" to Japan ( about NS Khrushchev), about EBN I am silent (they forbid swearing) - it is quite normal and people spend sparingly. Another foreigner on the throne is better than a Russian with "European brains" (about Elizabeth (wife of Peter 1), Catherine 2)
            2. Doctor
              Doctor 27 June 2020 00: 30 New
              0
              First you need to return Narva with the RUSSIAN population.

              And not only Ukraine (without Western), Belarus and Russia are one people, here I agree with our president. And let the rest go through the forest, including some unrecognized ones.
            3. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 27 June 2020 00: 47 New
              +1
              On July 25, 1991 and on July 16, 1993 there were attempts to create the Narva Republic with the subsequent entry into Russia, but the EBN "flushed it down the toilet".
      2. Doctor
        Doctor 27 June 2020 00: 04 New
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        Today Crimea is OUR and Russia does not have problems with the exit from the Sea of ​​Azov to the Black Sea.)

        Crimea and Tuzla are strategic points, here is a special case.
        But Crimea is the territory of Russia not only by legal criteria, but primarily by population. Tatar inclusions do not count.
        A year before the confrontation, I made a total motor rally in the Crimea with stops and almost never heard any movs. Only in the western part in the Black Sea region are episodes of surzhik. So everything went so smoothly.
      3. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 27 June 2020 00: 28 New
        +1
        Yuri, the whole LAND OF OUR Motherland consists of "strategic points" - oil and gas in Yamal, in Kolyma and near Magadan, gold, and so you can go on about any "piece" of Russia, everywhere there is a strategic interest, even if it is not visible today. Here is the "value" about. Tuzla and Crimea in general for Russia became clear when they were stolen from us. I remembered how Italy and Tunisia shared an island in the Strait of Tunis - an island, a volcano that had not yet emerged from under the water - "a child that was not born", and Italy, with the help of divers, put its flag on it, so that when it rose above the water surface, the flag of Italy was on it.
  2. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 27 June 2020 04: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: Arzt
    Also, people came up with to fasten the protection of virtual borders with blood.

    You tell this to the residents of the EU countries, the tolerance of which is checked by the flows of migrants from Africa and the countries of the Middle East.
  3. Doctor
    Doctor 27 June 2020 09: 39 New
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    You tell this to the residents of the EU countries, the tolerance of which is checked by the flows of migrants from Africa and the countries of the Middle East.

    Migration to Europe is a planned and controlled process, if the EU wanted to, they would easily establish better control than in. North Korea.
    In our zomboyaschik they want to show in every possible way how bad the Europeans are, pulling out and inflating individual cases of conflict to heaven.
    Believe me, in Europe everything is not bad, otherwise people would not have sought whole families there.
  4. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 27 June 2020 04: 25 New
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    Quote: Arzt
    and the USSR just conditional borders on the map, disappeared, as it was not.

    And liberalism is simple profanity, just like capitalism is ordinary speculation.
    The political system implies not only a certain territory within the borders, but also morality in society. Are you happy with today? Do you like the principles of “FFM” and “Laws of the chicken coop”?
    Are you, by any chance, not edros?
  5. Doctor
    Doctor 27 June 2020 09: 49 New
    0
    And liberalism is simple profanity, just like capitalism is ordinary speculation.

    Liberalism is simply an ideology based on Freedom. Freedom of an individual person until the Freedom of another person is affected.

    In the sense of state structure, the difference between liberalism and rigid state systems by type of socialism can be formulated very simply:
    liberals have a state for people, totalists have people for a state.
  6. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 27 June 2020 04: 21 New
    +2
    Quote: Arzt
    And then stop and think about whether you agree to part with all this and return to the era of the USSR for the sake of the death of several dozen millionaires unknown to you, and help the fraternal Turkish people,

    And why are you so one-sidedly painted everything here? Maybe due to the short life expectancy? Then tell me how well the unemployed live in these countries? Do you know what unemployment is? It is not that a person does not want or is not able to work. This is when he has nowhere to apply professional skills and he goes ... yes in the service sector. True in nature, not all people have such character traits as servility and hypocrisy. Some feel satisfied with the results of creative work.
    As for the rest on the shores of Antalya, both Karlovy Vary and Golden Sands completely suited us together with the resorts of the Crimea and the Krasnodar Territory.
    You forgot about the blacks in the USA, who were assigned special conditions for living, studying and moving.
    And we want to part with those who turn our land into a landfill of EU nuclear waste, and the territory of environmental disasters. Who simply stupidly pumps out resources from Russia and does nothing useful here.
    In an era when there were products of a limited number of items and all of them could be eaten without fear for their own health, it is much preferable to the one where food poisoning can be obtained even from “milk” or “sweets”. yes
    Yes ... About alcohol you noticed correctly. It is an achievement to see in the store hundreds of items of alcoholic products that are good for the body. And there’s a tincture of hawthorn. And there were times when in stores there were domestic brands of televisions, tape recorders and other electronics. Today, in the competition for household appliances, domestic products occupy some place? Or fleet replenished with new aircraft?
    The consumer attitude to life is instilled soon enough. And this is the main thing ... For those who stand at the top of the pyramid.
  7. Doctor
    Doctor 27 June 2020 10: 20 New
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    Then tell me how well the unemployed live in these countries?

    Unemployment benefits in these countries are greater than the salaries of some hard workers in the USSR.
    As for the rest on the shores of Antalya, both Karlovy Vary and Golden Sands completely suited us together with the resorts of the Crimea and the Krasnodar Territory

    You were lucky, you were satisfied, but most of them went out of their area once in a lifetime when they left the army.
    However, there is nothing wrong with the fact that now anyone can go to Thailand. In the USSR, this money alone was not enough, border lovers stood guard.
    And we want to part with those who turn our land into a dumping ground for EU nuclear waste, and a territory of environmental disasters.

    The landfill began to be made just during the USSR, the Germans did not build the same Zheleznogorsk on the banks of the Yenisei.
    And it was thanks to the change of order that we learned about it, otherwise people would rot on the territory of the Kyshtym trace.
    And there were times when in stores there were domestic brands of televisions, tape recorders and other electronics. Today, in the competition for household appliances, domestic products occupy some place? Or fleet replenished with new aircraft?

    Here I agree, the level of our own industrial production was at an altitude. I do not think that socialism in economics loses to capitalism, the USSR in the economic plan and standard of living lagged behind only for one reason - the lion's share of income went to the world revolution.
    If we took a position such as Greater Switzerland, we would live in paradise.
  8. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 27 June 2020 10: 15 New
    0
    Quote: Arzt
    Just imagine the eyes of a man who has fallen from the Brezhnev (far from hungry) times to the current supermarket.

    I can still imagine what a person will say, having tasted the current products and smoked today's even Marlboro, even the Rhodopean.
  9. Doctor
    Doctor 27 June 2020 10: 28 New
    0
    I can still imagine what a person will say, having tasted the current products and smoked today's even Marlboro, even the Rhodopean.

    The current Marlboro is as bad as the past, but that’s not the point.
    If you are such a follower of the natural, then now you can afford a cigar, there you can see straight tobacco sheets.
    Under the Soviets, you saw this only in movies about the bourgeoisie.
  10. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 27 June 2020 10: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: Arzt
    If you are such a follower of the natural, then now you can afford a cigar, there you can see straight tobacco sheets.
    Under the Soviets, you saw this only in movies about the bourgeoisie.

    Gee-gee, just under Brezhnev my grandmother worked in the tobacco department and the Cuban cigars were in bulk, that few people bought them.
  11. Doctor
    Doctor 27 June 2020 10: 36 New
    0
    Gee-gee, just under Brezhnev my grandmother worked in the tobacco department and the Cuban cigars were in bulk, that few people bought them.

    Your grandmother must have worked in the tobacco department of GUM, the majority of the population was content with Prima and Belomor, the advanced ones smiled Tu and Cosmos, I first saw Marlboro near the hunter for the hunter, and I saw the confiscate turned up.
  12. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 27 June 2020 10: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: Arzt
    Your grandmother must have worked in the tobacco department of GUM,

    My grandmother worked in a store on the outskirts of the city with a population of just over one hundred thousand people.
    Quote: Arzt
    For the first time I saw Marlboro at the tracker of an obhsnik, to see the confiscate turned up.

    And Marlboro lay bourgeois, expensive, one and a half rubles, as I recall.
  13. Malyuta
    Malyuta 27 June 2020 10: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    And Marlboro lay bourgeois, expensive, one and a half rubles, as I recall.

    You remember correctly, you could even buy individually. good drinks
  14. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 27 June 2020 10: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: Malyuta
    You could even buy by the piece.

    But I don’t remember that. Under Brezhnev? They were sold piece by piece in the 90s, but I don’t remember this in the USSR. Unless the cooperators, but they would have sold the horn line for spare parts.
  15. Malyuta
    Malyuta 27 June 2020 11: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    But I don’t remember that. Under Brezhnev?

    Yeah, like all the hooligan boys, we wanted to look older, hence the obscene words and a cigarette at school repeat Just for Force laughing Youth of 18 kopecks. a pack is not a channel, but Marlboro at 15 kopecks. a couple of cigarettes is chic !!! laughing Pampering, damn it.
    Threat. 80 Olympic year.
  16. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 27 June 2020 11: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: Malyuta
    Youth of 18 kopecks. a pack is not a channel, but Marlboro at 15 kopecks. a couple of cigarettes is chic !!! Pampering, damn it.

    It was necessary to buy Brezhnev’s favorite News, it seemed to cost 40 kopecks. wink
  17. Malyuta
    Malyuta 27 June 2020 11: 49 New
    +2
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    It was necessary to buy Brezhnev’s favorite News, it seemed to cost 40 kopecks. wink

    So seriously no one smoked, and so in front of the girls, a pack of Marlborough, there are two whitefish, you get a pointed cigarette and ... going to the movies to the last row is provided))))) laughing
    Threat. Ugh, you hurt yourself, wrote one, wrote another wassat Of course "News" in a soft pack of 18 kopecks, there the filter was made of paper corrugation yes as far as I remember, the cheapest of filter cigarettes.
  18. Doctor
    Doctor 27 June 2020 11: 09 New
    -1
    You remember correctly, you could even buy individually.

    A good example of a major achievement of socialism. It convexly shows the difference between capitalism and socialism.

    Under socialism, Marlborough bought one at a time, it was cheaper.
    Now Marlborough buy blocks, so cheaper. laughing
  19. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 25 June 2020 23: 25 New
    +3
    Yuri, Boris N. Yeltsin since 1961 "member" of the CPSU - candidate member of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee ("member" of the CPSU Central Committee, first secretary of the Moscow City Committee), awarded the Order of Lenin, two Orders of the Red Banner of Labor, the Order of the Badge of Honor (data from Wikipedia ) ... What EBN liberal? Which side, left or right B. Obama "leaned" against the liberals? Let's remember the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia V.V. Zhirinovsky, by the name of the party he is also a Liberal Democrat.
  20. Doctor
    Doctor 26 June 2020 01: 31 New
    0
    Which EBN is a liberal?

    What is a conservative? Fought the last effort for the preservation of the USSR?
  21. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 26 June 2020 19: 11 New
    0
    "Which EBN is a liberal?" - BN Yeltsin's political outlook was like that of other "members" of the CPSU - when his party career "went uphill" he was a "loyal Leninist." When the conflict-enmity between the EBN and the MSG (MS Gorbachev) began, BN Yeltsin made a "knight's move" left the party and went to the elections as a "non-party" (thanks to this he "took off"). Other "loyal Leninists" did not seize the moment and only caught up with the EBN (they burned party cards). About the preservation of the USSR - in the USSR there were about 20 "members" of the CPSU (approximate figure), all the bosses (with rare exceptions) were "members" and NONE of the "loyal Leninists" defended the USSR. My opinion - BN Yeltsin - "not a liberal in any way" - "people" - the people under EBN did not need the authorities (except for elections), all large property began to belong to oligarchs (monopolists), the state withdrew itself from the problems of the state, but the clerks began to interfere in everything and control everything - just like you Yuri wrote - just the opposite.
  22. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 27 June 2020 04: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: cat Rusich
    the state has removed itself from the problems of the state

    The state has withdrawn from performing state functions. Everything was left at the mercy of the liberal market economy of Gaidar-Chubais.
    Quote: Arzt
    Liberalism is an ideology in which human rights and freedoms are proclaimed as the highest value.
    Democracy is a political regime in which the government is governed by each of its members, usually through a vote.

    You express your political preferences or just decide to “mock” our brains. I will also tell you one truth:
    In a developed society, there are eccentrics and eccentrics in the letter "m", and also distinguish leaders and leaders in the letter "p" ...
    Zhirinovsky is a KGB project. Do you understand? Because without the tacit approval of this structure, it was impossible to create a party in the USSR in 1989.
    There is no meaning to the name here. This party of one person - VVZh. VVZh will bend - the LDPR will disappear. As was the case with many parties of various kinds. "United Russia" also holds on to the cohesion of the bureaucracy and the authority of GDP.
    If the Communist Party was headed by a principled person, this party would have had a tremendous influence on the political structure of the Russian Federation.
    You talk more calmly about the "charms" and "virtues" of capitalism - a system based on the sophisticated exploitation of man by man and zombie population through the media.
  23. Doctor
    Doctor 27 June 2020 10: 42 New
    0
    You express your political preferences

    It is by no means just political DEFINITIONS from the encyclopedia, in order to clarify its position.
    For example, Chubais writes everything to a liberal, so I will advise you to go to the Larks near Moscow and see his hacienda with an 8 meter fence.
    I think you realize that there is no greater conservative in our country than he is, for he is vitally interested in maintaining the current status quo.
  24. Doctor
    Doctor 27 June 2020 10: 49 New
    0
    Zhirinovsky is a KGB project. Do you understand? Because without the tacit approval of this structure, it was impossible to create a party in the USSR in 1989.
    There is no meaning to the name here. This party of one person - VVZh. VVZh will bend - the LDPR will disappear.

    It is absolutely clear, and I completely agree with you, we do not have a full-fledged democracy, because based on its definition, which for some reason you did not like, democracy implies a full-fledged CHOICE.
    Therefore, I always vote for the second candidate, trying to create at least a weak tension in the first, in particular for the pseudo-communist Communist Party.
    Although I understand perfectly well that this is naive.
  25. Doctor
    Doctor 27 June 2020 10: 58 New
    -1
    You talk more calmly about the "charms" and "virtues" of capitalism - a system based on the sophisticated exploitation of man by man and zombie population through the media.

    In terms of bending to work hard for a penny, socialism will easily argue with capitalism.
    And socialism of the Stalin era in this sense will put a slave system in its belt.
    But there is a fundamental difference.
    Under capitalism, YOU MAY NOT WORK.

    And as regards zombies through the media, the USSR has a clear palm.
    For a very simple reason there is NO ALTERNATIVE.
    ALL publications and television and radio channels are censored.
    You won’t believe it, but even Goebbels had competitors inside the Reich.
  26. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 27 June 2020 11: 05 New
    0
    Quote: Arzt
    In terms of bending to work hard for a penny, socialism will easily argue with capitalism.

    Lies. If my dad under socialism could buy 200 packs of the same Marlboro, then under today's capitalism -100. I’m silent about the communal apartment. Apart from the rest of the goodies that disappeared under capitalism.
    Quote: Arzt
    And socialism of the Stalin era in this sense will put a slave system in its belt.

    My second grandmother didn’t work at all after the war, she was a housewife.
    Quote: Arzt
    Under capitalism, YOU MAY NOT WORK.

    And die.
  27. Doctor
    Doctor 27 June 2020 11: 34 New
    0
    And die

    In reality, living on benefits, even without being a citizen of the country, like Arabs in Germany.
  28. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 27 June 2020 11: 51 New
    0
    Quote: Arzt
    In reality, living on allowance,

    fool
    Quote: Arzt
    I say, you are lucky.

    Yeah, along with my grandmother, whose husband (my grandfather), after being released from captivity and wounded in the penal units, the bloody regime sent him to work as a miner.
  29. Doctor
    Doctor 27 June 2020 11: 35 New
    0
    My second grandmother didn’t work at all after the war, she was a housewife.

    I say, you are lucky.
  30. Doctor
    Doctor 27 June 2020 11: 49 New
    0
    If my dad under socialism could buy 200 packs of the same Marlboro, then under today's capitalism -100.

    Thank the fighters for a healthy lifestyle.

    One official manufacturer of tobacco products, in an attempt to establish production of their products in our country, posted information on the franchise sale with a ready-made business plan, which indicated that for the production of 1 packs of cigarettes 440 rubles would be required, which means that one pack of cigarettes will be cost 000 rubles 7 kopecks.

    Recount in the "Lada". As I understand it, your income is about 130 rubles.
    So, to become the happy owner of Lada Grants, you need 4 months.
    In the USSR, to buy a six for 9000 would have to work twice as much, 8 months.
    True, it was necessary to work as a submarine commander or secretary general. laughing
    Well, wait for about five years, for the first thing, the first thing is the Premier League. wink
  31. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 27 June 2020 11: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: Arzt
    As I understand it, your income is about 130 rubles.

    Yeah, a year, homegrown accountant.
  32. Doctor
    Doctor 26 June 2020 01: 39 New
    0
    Maybe we recall the Liberal Democratic Party of V.V. Zhirinovsky, by the name of the party he is also a liberal democrat.

    Liberalism and democracy are NOT synonyms.
    Liberalism - ideologyin which human rights and freedoms are proclaimed as the highest value.
    Democracy - political regimein which the government is governed by each of its members, usually through a vote.

    Liberal democracy is a mixture of round and green.
    Whether Zhirinovsky fits this definition is up to you. laughing
  33. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 26 June 2020 19: 20 New
    0
    Yuri, I remembered the Liberal Democratic Party and V.V. Zhirinovsky as an example of the fact that loud names do not always coincide with the "content". I will not argue what political platform V.V. Zhiririnovsky has. Liberalism, democracy ... and other political terms are just words and a set of letters, bosses bring them to life and fill them with meaning, and we (the people) "eat" what they cook for us in the "political kitchen" - they cook badly - that's what we don't like democracy and liberalism.
  • Catfish
    Catfish 25 June 2020 13: 19 New
    +1
    Just do not always check everyone well,

    Sadat was unlucky with this, they admitted to the parade of Lieutenant Islambuli and his guys. How it all ended, the whole world knows there was a live broadcast.
  • syndicalist
    syndicalist 25 June 2020 18: 19 New
    -5
    Quote: Shurik70
    Here, in order to prevent this, they are trying to better select people for the participants

    I'm afraid for the next parade there will be no one to select from at all. Well, maybe a company of trustworthy people will be recruited throughout the army. But do they have enough intelligence to understand the commands of the commanders?
  • for
    for 26 June 2020 16: 17 New
    0
    Quote: Shurik70
    try to select people better for participants.

    Kind of weird "BEST" they don’t go to the army; they are only awarded.
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 25 June 2020 10: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Only the bastards in the parade we were missing

    Just a sick person.
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 25 June 2020 13: 10 New
      +2
      It is possible that he specially arranged a provocation, and thus decided to “become famous”. I think there will be more information later.
  • Same lech
    Same lech 25 June 2020 06: 57 New
    21
    “I thought that I was being watched from a standing car and that they tried to irradiate me.”

    Cool ... thousands of soldiers around ... around the security service and everyone is watching him ... here you can definitely go crazy ... how did he get into the army with such a manic form of psycho-disease ... well, at least there are no cartridges in the machine gun it would be because he was simple in heart and would have fired on a marching column.
    1. 4UMA
      4UMA 25 June 2020 07: 08 New
      27
      Our youth every second with this form, and the rest is even worse! And no one was bored with his head. Their YouTube and EGE processed.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 25 June 2020 07: 26 New
        17
        This is for nothing .... the inadequate is concentrated closer to the "foci of infection", and there are not so many of them ... rural, working youth, in this respect, are much healthier.
        Purely first-hand ... out of ten, there may be NONE, the concentration is much less.
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 25 June 2020 08: 23 New
        +9
        Quote: 4UMA
        Our youth every second with this form, and the rest is even worse!


        Do you have children? If so, then they have the same form of the disease, or more severe?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 25 June 2020 09: 25 New
          0
          Quote: Insurgent
          Do you have children? If so, then they have the same form of the disease, or more severe?

          I do not know what form, but my youngest sits in the "durka" (computer) all his free time.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 25 June 2020 09: 28 New
            +5
            Quote: tihonmarine
            I do not know what form, but my youngest sits in the "durka" (computer) all his free time.

            You (and me too recourse ) spend a lot of time on VO "in the computer", which can also be called "addiction" to a certain extent yes .

            And what, is it a clinic right away, a diagnosis?
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 25 June 2020 09: 58 New
              0
              Quote: Insurgent
              You (and I too) spend a significant amount of time on VO "in the computer", which can also be called "addiction" to a certain extent

              In this you are right. But my job is like this, I sit all day from 7 am to 7 pm, nothing else to do, how to sit on VO, but watch movies and read books. It turns out that "addiction".
      3. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 25 June 2020 11: 22 New
        0
        It seems that the exam has processed you too. Why so much love for the exam? Failed?
        My nephew passed the exam perfectly. All Australian institutes hunted him, they wanted to take him to him without exams and give free education.
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 25 June 2020 07: 13 New
      -1
      oh ... that just does not happen when standing in the sun for a long time. although in this case something out of the ordinary.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 25 June 2020 09: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: carstorm 11
        oh ... that just does not happen when standing in the sun for a long time.

        I don’t know how in the sun, but if you stand under the moon, then you’ll carry the little head for sure.
    3. Doccor18
      Doccor18 25 June 2020 07: 18 New
      +4
      how did he get into the army with such a manic form of psycho-illness ... well, at least there were no cartridges in the machine 

      And this is our medicine again ...
      Here, sometimes, some commentators say that the site is military, and they cover it with other topics. And for me, everything is so interconnected. Perhaps this person has been sick since childhood. And in his clinic there was no sensible psychiatrist either. Well, I think many people know what salaries the employees of military commissariats know, especially those who have no shoulder straps. The scary thing is not what could have happened at the parade, but what this man could have done while holding military weapons, sitting in a tank ...
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 25 June 2020 07: 47 New
        +1
        diagnosing mental illness is a long process. not everything is immediately revealed. check normally. But only when they don’t know what to look for, it makes no sense. and you won’t physically check everyone. and what does the staff of the military commissariats have to do with it? how can they reveal all this? all with head injuries or other physical markers are checked additionally.
        1. Normal
          Normal 25 June 2020 08: 04 New
          +6
          As an example, a certificate from a psychiatrist was needed to restore a driver's license. He came, stood in line, entered the office: a decrepit old man sits, who, out of the kindness of his soul, is simply "sitting out" his working age. Looked at me, asked a question on what question. I replied: so they say and so, we need a certificate from you regarding my mental health. One took a form for a conclusion from a drawer in the table, struck a clumsy signature and released it on all four sides. I myself was surprised, because I myself am a clinician by education and my area of ​​interest includes large and small psychiatry, though not only psychiatry, the rest is not so important.
          Compared with how this is actually done, as it should be. These are the pies.
          At least you can pay at least your attention to the fact that it does not require long EPI (experimental psychological studies), namely: simulation, aggravation (exaggeration of symptoms), dissimulation (understatement, concealment of symptoms)
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 25 June 2020 08: 13 New
            0
            well, at least he will make sure that you are not registered. all drivers can’t get tested for example.
            1. Normal
              Normal 25 June 2020 08: 14 New
              0
              Absolutely right. Thank you for correcting, comrade.
          2. Insurgent
            Insurgent 25 June 2020 08: 31 New
            +4
            Quote: Normal
            I myself was surprised, because I myself am a clinician by education, and my area of ​​interest includes, big and small psychiatry, though not only it, the rest is not so important.
            Compared with how this is actually done, as it should be. These are the pies.

            In the vast majority of cases, this is exactly what is being done. Pure formalism. Dohtur does not want to bother with tests and the like ...

            If you didn’t bite him from the doorway, then as a rule, the maximum that he will do is to check the absence of your last name in the list of people registered, and that if you came to the reception at the place of registration ...
            1. Normal
              Normal 25 June 2020 08: 38 New
              +1
              "If you didn't bite him from the doorway"))) I laugh out loud)) That's right))
          3. Doccor18
            Doccor18 25 June 2020 08: 32 New
            +4
            I agree with you. However, at such a tender age, it’s even easier to diagnose
            simulation, aggravation (exaggeration of symptoms), dissimulation (understatement, concealment of symptoms)

            But the professionalism of psychiatrists is severely lacking. I myself undergo regular medical examinations, psychiatrists and narcologists, after 2-3 routine phrases, put a stamp. I used to be shocked, now I'm used to it. And yet I repeat, it's easier with young people. But a man of about 40 years old with a paranoid one is not immediately "see through", there is time and diligence to help.
    4. nerd.su
      nerd.su 25 June 2020 14: 32 New
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      .How did he get into the army with such a manic form of mental illness ..

      Or the form was not so strong when hit. Or I wanted to drop out of the army when I realized where I got. In such a situation, the fool is to fuse the soldier. It seems like no one is to blame that the medical commission did not inspect, everyone knows that the military enlistment office would only fulfill the plan ....
  • Tatyana Sementsova
    Tatyana Sementsova 25 June 2020 06: 57 New
    11
    Apparently it was paid for a serious dung, and they gave him a puppy and sent him to the reserve .... So he decided to even break the glass ...... I think they will be closely involved in services that understand how and when it can go to the head .... ...
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 25 June 2020 06: 58 New
    +1
    He was already irradiated with something, and even more so.
    1. venik
      venik 25 June 2020 07: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: Pessimist22
      He was already irradiated with something, and even more so.

      ======
      They just say about such people: "...When I was little ..... My poor mommy ...... How to bang me from the 13th floor!!! ... "(film" Feast of St. Jorgen ")

      This is just the case!
      PS Diagnosis: An acute form of schizophrenia with severe persecution mania ..... fool
      PPS And they are called up to the Army ..... what
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 25 June 2020 07: 52 New
      +1
      So after all, 5G base stations. And if they were also included ...
      1. ivanec
        ivanec 25 June 2020 21: 37 New
        0
        Found a point G
  • 210ox
    210ox 25 June 2020 07: 00 New
    +5
    The Victory Parade is sacred and no place there is inadequate for everyone.
  • Finches
    Finches 25 June 2020 07: 04 New
    +3
    Unfortunately, the degradation of young people, irradiated from childhood by iPads and iPhones, cartoons about a bean sponge ..., every year more and more with each new generation! Physically undeveloped and morally unstable - they are specifically generated exclusively for one thing - to be obedient cogs of a consumer society and followers of the virtual world! I do not know what this young man was baked on there, but he was included in the parade for participation in the event on the main square of our state - which means that the commanders simply have no choice even for such an overresponsible event! It’s good that he had a machine gun, or he could have pulled a queue right out of the box for all the presidents, honored guests and veterans ... And what - subscribers would have been added to VKontakte, Malakhov would have invited him to his evening show right away .. . And that’s it! Life is good!
    1. 4UMA
      4UMA 25 June 2020 07: 12 New
      +4
      Exactly! Well, they don’t even watch telly where nightingales are promoting
    2. Rzzz
      Rzzz 25 June 2020 07: 26 New
      0
      Quote: Finches
      cartoons about a bean sponge ..

      You know, cartoons about a bean sponge are dumb of course, but they are designed for kindergarteners. There is no aggression there, quite peaceful and calm cartoons. But in any case they are more harmless than the nightingale jelly, the Malaysia kids and other aggressive trash on our central TV.

      But now there’s a lot of different psychos. It is difficult to say why so, most likely there is no specific reason, but a whole complex. And not only among young people crazy, the adult generation also sometimes numbers practice.
      1. Roman_vh
        Roman_vh 25 June 2020 10: 59 New
        -4
        Spongebob, hidden homosexual propaganda. And thin and it is aimed at children. But Solovyov did not guess you, broadcasting openly and on adults
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 25 June 2020 11: 17 New
          0
          I will not say that I am a connoisseur or connoisseur of this cartoon, but I have seen several episodes. I do not like him, but nothing more. Where did you even find propaganda of something there? Maybe look for a reason in yourself, if something seems wrong to you there?
          And then, as in the joke about Freud: "daughter, sometimes a dream is just a dream."
          1. Roman_vh
            Roman_vh 25 June 2020 23: 43 New
            +1
            So interesting, are the cons to me for calling Bob’s sponge a homosexual or for Solovyov? And so I did not guess a single letter. Cartoons should teach children something good. What good can be found in a sponge bob?
            1. Rzzz
              Rzzz 26 June 2020 08: 47 New
              0
              For Solovyov of course. Incidentally, he broadcasts not on adults, but on the elderly senile, who have absolutely no connection with reality, but due to some misunderstanding, the opinion of such characters is very much appreciated.
              "Elderly" is, by the way, not age, but a way of thinking. There are many such "elderly" who are 40-50 years old according to their passport.
              1. Finches
                Finches 26 June 2020 19: 28 New
                0
                With a creative thinking format, comrade? laughing
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 25 June 2020 07: 51 New
      +1
      not this way. they are checked for the parade in general at other points. conducting tens of thousands of people screening for mental illness is a fantasy. and it’s not worth it to drive the young. they are normal. you just don’t understand them) as in fact at all times there were problems of fathers and children. there were 14 thousand people. one cuckoo tore off. so-so trend.
    4. your1970
      your1970 25 June 2020 08: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Finches
      Unfortunately, the degradation of young people, irradiated from childhood by iPads and iPhones, cartoons about a bean sponge ..., every year more and more with each new generation!

      There was such a junior lieutenant Ilyin V.I .... Too iPhones and iPads with a sponge Bob and the exam are to blame - what did he organize the attempt on Brezhnev? A little older, 22 years old ....
      Such people have always been and will be, nature needs them for something .....

      Z. Y. My father told me that my generation is "a generation of goofs who can do nothing and want nothing" lol
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 25 June 2020 11: 43 New
        +2
        Z. Y. My father told me that my generation is "a generation of goofs who can do nothing and want nothing" lol

        Yes, and also happened before: laughing laughing laughing

        The inscription on the tomb of the pharaoh (c. 35 century BC)
        "The young are obstinate, without obedience and respect for the elders. The truth has been discarded, the customs are not recognized. No one understands them, and they do not want to be understood. They bring destruction to the world and become its last limit."

        Ancient Babylonia. The inscription on the clay vessel. (30th century BC)
        "These young people are corrupted to the core. Young people are insidious and careless. They will never be like the youth of the old days. The younger generation of today will not be able to preserve our culture. "

        Ancient Egypt. Saying of the priest (20th century BC)
        "Our world has reached a critical stage. Children no longer obey their parents. Apparently, the end of the world is not very far away. "

        Hesiod. Ancient Greece (720 BC)
        "I have lost all hopes regarding the future of our country if today's youth take the reins of power tomorrow, for the youth are unbearable, unrestrained, simply awful. "
        1. Junior Private
          Junior Private 25 June 2020 13: 29 New
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          The fact that the older generation traditionally grumbles at the young with the words "It was better in our time" can be considered a completely natural phenomenon, and perhaps a little to write off to the fact that, they say, "society is developing." Today's realities of relations between generations are distinguished by a sharp turn in morality and value systems. People are taught to consume and live in virtuality, and not to create and create. That's where the "misunderstanding" comes in.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 25 June 2020 07: 15 New
    +5
    Why discuss it, first you need to show it to doctors, the reaction is inadequate.
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 25 June 2020 08: 47 New
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      Roll a dozen - in the zone will be cured.
      1. Roman_vh
        Roman_vh 25 June 2020 11: 03 New
        -1
        No, they will not be cured.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 25 June 2020 07: 20 New
    +1
    It is also added that thereby "a serious incident was prevented during the parade."

    Who said that we have everything and everything is tip-top.
    This happens ... well, that everything ends well, because sometimes it ends very tragically.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 June 2020 07: 22 New
    +3
    The people at the Parade were many and different (give the figure of more than 14 thousand only participants). You can’t attach a normal head to everyone. It’s good that the incident didn’t go to the main cameras, for the WestEnets would have immediately suffered from all the media.
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 25 June 2020 07: 41 New
      +2
      In the family, as they say ...
      But let's turn to the numbers -
      approximately 15 thousand people marched across Red Square, in total about 25 thousand people were involved in all sorts of people + almost 30 more cities, + headquarters and various other military related services, from internatnost to orchestras
      and for this whole community - one is inadequate. I will not even bother to calculate what percentage it is.
  • Igoresha
    Igoresha 25 June 2020 07: 40 New
    -2
    well, who doesn’t happen to
  • Tusv
    Tusv 25 June 2020 07: 52 New
    +1
    I thought that I was being watched from a standing car and that they tried to irradiate me.

    But he wouldn’t go along the path of Klimkin, perhaps the Minister of Defense would become
  • Poetry
    Poetry 25 June 2020 08: 09 New
    +2
    Well, soon already on "demobilization". Through Kashchenko.
  • ksenofont7
    ksenofont7 25 June 2020 08: 17 New
    +1
    Homeland is waiting for heroes, women give birth to these ...
  • Vladimir Kolmychenko
    Vladimir Kolmychenko 25 June 2020 08: 44 New
    -1
    Sent Cossack.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 25 June 2020 09: 12 New
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    Looks like the brains are not all right. And among his own, he probably carried some kind of baidu. So they "cleaned up". It is not always possible to identify a psycho.
  • ohka
    ohka 25 June 2020 09: 12 New
    +1
    Or maybe it was like in the old joke of Soviet times
    A patrol detains a drunken soldier who urinates on a mausoleum.
    "What are you doing, you bastard ...."
    "And I, gee-gee, the regiment commander and the political officer, I am removing from my post !!!"
  • Moskovit
    Moskovit 25 June 2020 09: 21 New
    +1
    My nephew participated in the victory parade two years ago. They took there volunteers and suitable physical data. He is tall - 1.9 m. Blond hair, Russian-national face. Since February, they trained. For the parade, he received a medal and a month earlier demobilized. Nobody really tested it.
  • KJIETyc
    KJIETyc 25 June 2020 09: 38 New
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    I myself was surprised, because I myself am a clinician by education, and my area of ​​interest includes, big and small psychiatry, though not only it, the rest is not so important.
    Compared with how this is actually done, as it should be. These are the pies.

    In the vast majority of cases, this is exactly what is being done. Pure formalism. Dohtur does not want to bother with tests and the like ...

    If you didn’t bite him from the doorway, then as a rule, the maximum that he will do is to check the absence of your last name in the list of people registered, and that if you came to the reception at the place of registration ...

    so who are you fools if you are not registered? fool
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 25 June 2020 10: 20 New
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    Well, now commanders to the brigade will also be taken for genitals.
  • dgonni
    dgonni 25 June 2020 10: 36 New
    -1
    As an option, an attempt to slope. Actually, after that, any commander of such a fighter will try to write off the rush.
    Although in Soviet times, such cunning *** x were sent to FORWARD. Instantly getting healthy :)
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 25 June 2020 12: 45 New
      +1
      In disbat it instead of a demobilization.
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 25 June 2020 17: 53 New
    +1
    But why let the conscripts parade? they are now nobody, only open the gates to the checkpoint
    1. Popov I.P.
      Popov I.P. 29 July 2020 03: 41 New
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      Essentially I agree. What for a year of a conscript soldier can really be taught and educated, even to walk properly is unlikely. Therefore, at the parade in Moscow, the ranks are mainly officers of military academies, cadets and contract soldiers. Conscripts come across in the ranks of the division. Dzerzhinsky National Guard, as well as railway troops, Taman and Kantemirovsk divisions and the 27th Sevastopol brigade. which are not fully transferred to the contract due to the level of monetary allowance and prices in the Moscow region. But legally, the fighter took the oath and must follow the orders of his superiors. leaving aside your personal opinion and your emotions. And if he does not do this, then he must be comprehended by the harsh punishment of the law.
  • parathyron
    parathyron 25 June 2020 20: 34 New
    0
    Wrestler from the 5th, everywhere the radiation seems
  • AKS-U
    AKS-U 25 June 2020 21: 25 New
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    A conscript soldier who tried to provoke the Victory Parade, originally from Kaluga.
    Before hating the FSB, he fell in love with alcohol.
    He wanted to show off and get five minutes of fame, and now he can get several years in prison.
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 26 June 2020 11: 57 New
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    What an event! "The soldier was offended" and began to hooligan. Fathers-commanders overlooked the "unstable" fighter. So this particular case is not worth a damn. And the "sofa critics" have found the most ...

    And the fact that, under quarantine conditions in Moscow, they organized and held a grand parade with dozens of types of equipment and thousands of marching. The picture is impressive!
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 27 June 2020 04: 46 New
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    To overshadow the triumph with your antics is a crime. Such an abomination was simply necessary to isolate.
  • Popov I.P.
    Popov I.P. 29 July 2020 03: 26 New
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    We love "fried" facts, especially people far from military reality. As a person who wore epaulettes from 15 to 55 years old, and for the first time participated in the parade on Red Square in 1972 (100th parade), I can say that nothing sensational happened. Replacements are made in almost every parade, they replace not only soldier sailors, but also officers and even generals, most often for health reasons. For this, there are spare ones (in our time - 01 per line of 20 people), who participate in all trainings, also dress in a new full dress and leave for Red Square on the day of the parade, and only half an hour before they leave for GUM in readiness for the first team to replace those who dropped out, by the way, thanks, certificates, medals for the parade receiving on an equal basis with everyone else. Nobody noticed that 5 years ago the announcer announced that Lieutenant General V. Bychkov was at the head of the Air Force regiment, but in fact the Air Force regiment was headed by Major General G. Zibrov from Voronezh (now Colonel General, head of the Air Force). But in fact, shortly before the parade, the commander of the Air Force regiment was replaced by the decision of the then Air Force Civil Code, Colonel-General Zelin (there was a long-standing conflict between them due to the transfer of the Air Force Academy from Moscow to Voronezh). And then there is such excitement around one nervous, undeveloped conscript. The military counterintelligence officers serving this unit and responsible for the security of the event always accompany their wards to the parade all the way to Red Square. And seeing the conflict between the two fighters, the counterintelligence officer quite reasonably demanded a replacement, and I think that he acted quite professionally, given the high level of the event, which does not allow making its result dependent on the mood of an individual fighter. And the rest is up to the military justice to deal with the incident: in fact, there are two articles of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation: "Disobedience" and "Damage to military property", or simply the soldier is not completely mentally healthy and medicine should work. In the second case, a psychologist, a doctor and a feeding unit must receive their own. There is nothing fried and there is no emergency here, there are ordinary military days. Just an honored general, having received the order to leave the parade line, unquestioningly fulfilled it as stated in the charter, regardless of his personal attitude to the essence of the order received, and the conscript decided to hold a rally.