Ukraine: USA delivered us a batch of new Javelin rockets

For the needs of the Ukrainian military, the United States sent Kiev a batch of anti-tank missiles Javelin. Delivery took place under a contract concluded in December last year.

This was reported by the press service of the Ukrainian defense department.

FGM-148E missiles were sent to Ukraine, which are considered the penultimate modification of this weapons. At the same time, they declared in Ukraine that the United States had supplied them with "new missiles." The latter is considered FGM-148F, first entered the United States Armed Forces only in May this year. For obvious reasons, Washington did not send the latest ATGM modifications to the APU.

"New" missiles arrived in Ukraine on June 16. This was the first batch of military cargo in the framework of the pilot project of the US government "International military sales." In total, Javelin missiles and additional equipment worth $ 27 million were delivered.

The contract provides not only for the sending of the weapons complex, but also for its maintenance and the provision of related services for the training of personnel for the effective operation of new weapons throughout their entire life spans.

Missiles Javelin FGM-148E, like previous modifications, are designed to destroy armored vehicles, fortifications on the ground, as well as some aircraft moving at low altitude and speed - helicopters and UAVs.

Comments

[mitroha]

It is necessary to send blacks weapons or something. Symmetrical so to speak

[syndicalist]

Yes, the blacks have this weapon, like shoe polish at Uncle Matroskin. However, the whites also have "revolvers".

[Insurgent]

FGM-148E missiles, which are considered the penultimate modification of this weapon, were sent to Ukraine. At the same time, Ukraine said that the United States had supplied them with "new missiles."

A hiba is not new ??? Those were just green, and on these also a yellow strip ...

[kot28.ru]

And the old ones have already been sold through Tyrnet ???

[Insurgent]

Quote: kot28.ru

And the old ones have already been sold through Tyrnet ???

And FIG knows them ...
There was information that the Americans recalled the partially old (previous) supply, but is this true?
After all, the data is kept secret ...

[TermNachTer]

Yeah. The newest ones from the factory were sent to Banderlyand, and their old ones were left in long-cutting warehouses, waiting for the rocket fuel to "go bad"))))

[Holgerton]

According to FMS, these ATGM "Javelin" were manufactured at the plant specifically for Ukraine, Georgia, Lithuania and others. Last year, there was news that an order was placed on the Pentagon's procurement site for these purposes for the production of a certain number of ATGMs.
If you think that it is quick to write off old missiles and accept new missiles, especially if all procedures are followed, and also taking into account the fact that all the "older" ATGMs are scattered around different points, then you are greatly mistaken. In addition, there is a rather small age difference.
And it is worth remembering that the FGM-148E is the version of 2008, which at the moment, during the production process, was transferred to new components, therefore there is nothing critical for the United States and its warehouses in the supply of these missiles.

[TermNachTer]

You want to say that for Ukraine, Lithuania, etc. make rockets better than for the US? I know firsthand what military acceptance is at the factory. Of these, two or three people who really know something and know how, the rest do not know what the caliper is or how to use a micrometer.

[Rzzz]

Quote: TermNachTER

for Ukraine, Lithuania, etc. make rockets better than for the USA

Most likely they are just made by others. For deliveries to countries with unreliable regimes, where there is a risk of weapons falling into the wrong hands, options with modified technologies will be supplied there so that it would not be possible to fully analyze vulnerabilities using reverse engineering.

[TermNachTer]

So I think that even if they are new, from the factory, they are still not better than those that the mattresses have in service. Q.E.D)))

[Holgerton]

For the United States, similar missiles (FGM-149E) have been made since 2008, except that during the production process the components and components were slightly improved and optimized. And since May of this year, the FGM-149F is already being produced for the US Armed Forces.
What is incomprehensible that the Pentagon is ordering Raytheon to manufacture missiles for export? Even if we assume that the Pentagon would order all the new (only produced) ATGM "Javelin" for itself, and export the missiles taken from its warehouses, then it would still be required to send them to the manufacturer and carry out an inspection with restoration or average / overhaul (depending on the condition of the rocket). But in fact, the Pentagon already very often gives away with discounts and for "just like that" on FMS at the expense of the State Department ATGMs with an age of 5-7 + years, so they already have few old ATGMs
In addition, most of the radars, helicopters, missiles for various systems, as well as such popular types of weapons as the M107, ATGM TOW and Hellfire, machine guns, grenade launchers and assault rifles, the Pentagon delivers through the FMS line new and here there is no direct dependence Ukraine is either Norway, Georgia or Germany, for the money of the Americans or at the expense of the country consuming these weapons.
The fact remains that the Pentagon ordered for Ukraine, as well as for the rest of the countries on that list, the production of new missiles (FGM-149E), and not the restoration of old ones, because the second option does not make much sense, given that the United States already has the majority ATGM "Javelin" in the FGM-149E version is simply of an earlier assembly, so it makes no sense for them to build all these multi-rovers with decommissioning, but it will be easier to pass the "aging" missiles through the upgrade to the level of FGM-149F.
Moreover, the Javelin ATGMs are stored in sealed TPKs for 10-15 years, depending on the modifications and service conditions, the main purposes of inspections are usually the GOS and solid fuel, which can be equally quickly replaced at the plant. The case and basic electronics, except perhaps the ROM and the processor (to meet the requirements of the new GOS), can not be changed, since no destructive effects have occurred on them.

[major147]

Quote: Insurgent

The United States supplied them with "new missiles."

This means that specifically these missiles have never been used. as in the old joke:
- Petka runs into the hut to Vasily Ivanovich with a shout - "White tanks in the garden !!!!"
- Vasily Ivanovich calmly says - "Take a grenade behind the stove and blow them up ....."
- Petka grabs a grenade, runs out, explosion!
- Petka returns to the hut, shakes off ....
- Vasily Ivanovich asks - "Did you blow it up?"
- "I blew it up" - Petka answers
- "Good" - says Vasily Ivanovich - "Put the grenade in place" .....

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Insurgent

A hiba is not new ??? Those were just green, and on these also a yellow strip ...
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I vasp correctly understood that any effort of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the detriment. Is that so?

[Rzzz]

Quote: Insurgent

and on these also a yellow strip ..

This is most likely marked as a "practical" bullet. Which shoots not with a real rocket, but with a plastic blank, for training purposes.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

And what the hell are they? With someone this is not fighting? In fact, this weapon is more for defense, I wonder who they are defending from?

[major147]

Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich

unfinished

Yes you! This is a real "European" country. They are here "Motherland was decorated with the rainbow flag of the LGBT NashKiev.UA". One word, and then with the letter "P" .....
I will not exhibit this rubbish here, although it is available.

[Egoza]

Quote: major147

They are here "Motherland was decorated with the rainbow flag of the LGBT NashKiev.UA".

Yes, we already found out that this is Photoshop. Who would give them a climber for such a thing? That they depicted their dreams.

[major147]

Quote: Egoza

Quote: major147

They are here "Motherland was decorated with the rainbow flag of the LGBT NashKiev.UA".

Yes, we already found out that this is Photoshop. Who would give them a climber for such a thing? That they depicted their dreams.

Actually, it doesn’t matter whether they “decorated” in reality or virtually, you said correctly about their dreams and ideals.
Add a little about their cannibalistic ideas.
"The head of the committee for social policy and protection of the rights of veterans of the Verkhovna Rada, deputy of the Servant of the People faction, Galina Tretyakova, said:" The unemployed give birth to children of poor quality, so unemployed citizens must be sterilized. "
It is terrible to be the people of such "servants"!

[The leader of the Redskins]

And I'll wait for gallant comments like "... so soon the militia will have ..."
True, the last batch has not yet been lit, but hype comments are always in trend ...

[Katanikotael]

Have not the past taken away from sin away?

[TermNachTer]

I'm afraid you won’t wait. The entire first batch is located at the Yavorov landfill, and mattress covers also guard it. I think that the second will go there too.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Well, why can't I wait? Here, the minuses have already been thrown!

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Katanikotael

Have not the past taken away from sin away?

They took joy-jumping goats to the joy, they didn’t tell the national interest where they were being transported, and why? when the general came, they put me on the bedside table with a specialist, so that I roared the division, quietly!
P.S. And the generals visited often ... MBO ABMs, they even shared cots with them when they had flies from the school arrived

[Russ]

"New"

With old holes ......

For obvious reasons, Washington did not send the latest ATGM modifications to the APU

[kind]

Not the Javelins alone have a strong army. And these complexes are unreasonably highly advertised.

[TAMBU]

Well ... to be honest, weapons are serious ...

[dvina71]

Quote: TAMBU

Well ... to be honest, weapons are serious ...

I bet ..TOW is more dangerous ..

[major147]

Quote: TAMBU

Well ... to be honest, weapons are serious ...

Skillful heads and hands are needed for such weapons.

[5-9]

Light ATGMs, essentially replacing RPGs, in principle, are not serious ..

[The leader of the Redskins]

Thank God, at least a couple of comments are adequate ...

[Pavel73]

Skins are corrupt.

[homeshniy domovoy]

Russia itself would not be prevented from developing such complexes.

[AU Ivanov.]

So we’ll buy from them a sample for study for a couple of liters of vodka.

[homeshniy domovoy]

And why buy, if you can pick it up, and the burner will come in handy

[dvina71]

Quote: domashniy domovoy

Russia itself would not be prevented from developing such complexes.

With the living Cornets, Metis and Chrysanthemums ... what the hell is this underproduction?

[Pavel73]

Developed. "Autonomy" was called. It turned out that such systems are too expensive. The Javelin is about twice as efficient as Cornet, and is five times more expensive.

[5-9]

What? Is a light ATGM 2 times higher than the most powerful portable ATGM in the world?
Is this rated by Reiteon? Again 150 kg of explosives in the T-72 stuffed for better visualization?

[Pavel73]

Due to the defeat from above, where is the thinnest armor. Plus the principle of "fire and forget".

[5-9]

Penetration and off-line action of UY is small .. therefore, on a heavy TOU-2 there are 2 of them - and they should hit in the same place ... for a guarantee. VLD and the roof of our tanks in NDZ - you will not break.
I shot it, I forgot it's good ... but the preparations for the shot take a minute of not the most simple manipulations (for which the shooter can be killed 10 times) + short range + low armor impact and even in case of penetration, it is unrealistic to disable the tank with one hit, it will lead the trunk and send the hero to the hurias (especially since the range is not high) + restrictions in the SMU, in conditions of smoke, etc. - may not capture the target at all or not capture it. And you can’t shoot “2 meters to the left of that bush”, you need something contrasting. Cons - dofiga, especially considering the price.

But the Cornet is full of holes with a margin to any place from any distance at which you can actually find a tank .... the main thing is to get there.
If you compare with ours - then with Metis.

[Mountain shooter]

I probably missed it, but where were these complexes used in real battles? And showed their "terrifying effectiveness"? The whole world knows about RPG 7. About ATGMs. And about "Dart" - only advertising materials ...

[Kurare]

In Iraq and Afghanistan, the baboons were driven.

[Interlocutor]

I probably missed, but where were these systems used in real battles?

Here, and I also missed. She is not in battles. The thing is probably not bad, but uncomfortable.

[major147]

Quote: Interlocutor

The thing is probably not bad, but uncomfortable.

Yes, and not so effective, more "promoted". I read the Wiki here, the protection and counteraction of this "crap" is developed.

[yushch]

Wiki is of course an authoritative source.

[major147]

Quote: yushch

Wiki is of course an authoritative source.

One of the sources ....

[Egoza]

As soon as I hear or read "America gave us a part ..." all the time the words of one song pop up ...
America of Russia gave the ship
From the nose of steam, the wheels at the back
And terrible and terrible
And a terribly quiet move.

It seems to me that everything that our "loving partners" supply us with have exactly the same quality

[NF68]

It means that soon these ATGMs will be in service in the LPR and the DPR, as it was more than once before with other APU equipment.

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Do you guys have a VK account?

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Please, who has an account in VK to throw off the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5D_HdsjXjk https://vk.com/igoristrelkov and https://vk.com/za_kvachkova Thank you in advance

[Viktor Sergeev]

Aha new. Well, how new? Old, but for the colony will do, it's better than in the trash. Although Ukraine is a garbage can for old scrap metal that no one needs, the destruction of which is economically unprofitable, and savages can also be sold.

[Irek]

Warehouses are freed, old junk has been stained.

[Katanikotael]

Is this the same party that supposedly free help or is it another?

[Ros 56]

What Ukraine was brought to, there were no more brains at all. They are proud that someone put something to them, well, not half-fools?

[Max Lebedev]

Gave a monkey a grenade

[tatarin1972]

"Ukraine: the United States has supplied us with a batch of Javelin missiles of a new modification" - have you already sold the old modification ?!

[Poetry]

And Ukraine, in response, put two Cossacks. "Humpbacked" and "eared".

[5-9]

For the sake of skakuas, just to deify something ... the light anti-tank system of the controversial concept was elevated to the sacred rank ....