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Bolton: Trump called Ukraine the wall between the US and Russia

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US President Donald Trump did not want to allocate money to Ukraine for military needs. He believed that they were simply plundered.


This was written in his book “The Room Where It Happened: The White House Memoirs”, published yesterday by the former National Security Advisor to the American President John Bolton.

A retired official mentions how Donald Trump once called Ukraine "the wall between the US and Russia." Actually, the whole section of Bolton’s book was devoted to Ukraine. For example, he told how the US president did not want to react to the Kerch incident for a long time when three Ukrainian warships together with crews were detained by Russians for violating the state border.

Trump called Ukraine a “wall” between the two countries when there was a discussion of military assistance to Kiev in the amount of $ 250 million. He did not want to give a dime, rightly believing that the allocated funds would still be stolen. Then the US president proposed an original way out: to increase the amount of aid to 300 million dollars, but to make NATO pay this money:

Call Stoltenberg and let him get paid into NATO. Say: "The president is on your side, but the money must come from NATO."

According to Bolton, Donald Trump has repeatedly said that Kiev is an obstacle for the United States in establishing normal relations with Russia. Once he even declared that the pro-Russian president of Ukraine could have prevented the Third World War. Former adviser to Trump claims that he expressed these words in a personal conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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  1. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 24 June 2020 13: 31 New
    +2
    So much has happened that these revelations absolutely do not excite, the country of evil and obscurantism of the UWB should be destroyed with or without a trump
    1. 210ox
      210ox 24 June 2020 13: 37 New
      +5
      About the destruction. Military methods will not work. Yes, and political too. Economically, if China takes up this business. But this process is dreary, and he doesn’t need it. The Chinese have a very large market there.
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    2. Clear
      Clear 24 June 2020 18: 16 New
      +4
      Trump called Ukraine the wall between the USA and Russia
      Right. I have long had the feeling that we are talking to the wall.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 24 June 2020 13: 33 New
    +1
    The king is good ... But the boyars ... An interesting trend is that in the current world in all countries of the king, without exception, is his retinue .. Or simply. It has.
    1. Pavel73
      Pavel73 24 June 2020 13: 38 New
      +9
      Trump is a normal man. He personifies that part of America that we knew, respected, and even loved. He is for America to be a leader, but against being a gendarme. For this, his global globalist elite hates, and is trying to remove.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 24 June 2020 13: 44 New
        +4
        You know, I can respect the hard worker at the factory, the farmer, ordinary people. Why should I respect, much less love their political elite? That's exactly what he personifies.
        1. fider
          fider 24 June 2020 14: 42 New
          -4
          210окв "За что мне уважать и тем паче любить ихнюю политическую верхушку?"
          And your top, therefore, laughing do you like
          1. 210ox
            210ox 24 June 2020 18: 01 New
            +2
            А вопрос стоит про Трампа и Болтона. При чем тут "наша" верхушка. Будет про неё-разберём по косточкам.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 24 June 2020 13: 49 New
        +9
        Quote: Pavel73
        He personifies that part of America that we knew, respected and even loved

        В контексте со словами "мы любили" не нужно употреблять местоимение "мы". Употребляйте личное "Я". Для меня, советского офицера, и для всех моих сослуживцев, США и НАТО всегда были "вероятным противником". Какая уж тут может быть любофф? request
        1. Pavel73
          Pavel73 24 June 2020 14: 00 New
          +7
          For me, Soviet and then Russian privates, NATO is the fourth Reich. For this is a military organization created against Russia. But the United States, like any other country, is not made up of enemies and adversaries alone. And if we see in Americans not only potential opponents, but just people (and most importantly, so that they see it), then we will not give them a reason to consider us enemies. And then it will be very difficult for ordinary Americans to make us fight against us. These are the Americans that Trump represents. Of course, judging by his statements.
          1. Selevc
            Selevc 24 June 2020 16: 26 New
            +1
            Quote: Pavel73
            And then it will be very difficult for ordinary Americans to make us fight against us. These are the Americans that Trump represents.
            You understand that every year there are fewer and fewer such Americans, and more and more such people to whom the Democratic Party specifically brainwashed ???. In the United States, there are now too many who hate Russia quite consciously and the reasons why they hate Russia are ridiculous, invented by the false media and sucked out of their fingers and driven into their brains by the same party of Democrats !!!
            And all because the main slogan of the US Democratic Party - Let's finish off the enemies on the external fronts no matter what it takes and then defeating Russia, Iran and others - we’ll take a shower on their collapse and on this victorious wave we will solve our internal problems as well !! !
            So today, the victory or loss of Republicans in the United States is directly related not only to the United States but to the rest of the world as well !!!
        2. businessv
          businessv 24 June 2020 14: 20 New
          0
          Quote: Piramidon
          В контексте со словами "мы любили" не нужно употреблять местоимение "мы".
          Павел, видимо, имел в виду нашу страну в конце 80-х и начале 90-х, когда большинство гражданских жителей просто сходили с ума от желания походить на тех, кого видели в голливудских фильмах. Это сейчас большинство наелось полосатой "демократии" до отвала, а тогда всё было по-другому. Алкаш ЕБН готов был им отдать последний секрет, достав его из штанов!
      3. Gaubvaxta
        Gaubvaxta 24 June 2020 13: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: Pavel73
        Trump is a normal man. He personifies that part of America that we knew, respected, and even loved. He is for America to be a leader, but against being a gendarme. For this, his global globalist elite hates, and is trying to remove.

        Nice koment ..! good Something is what most people think ..
      4. Selevc
        Selevc 24 June 2020 16: 11 New
        +1
        Quote: Pavel73
        He is for America to be a leader, but against being a gendarme

        In my opinion, the Democratic Party, although it lost the last election to the Republicans - they really did not give Trump and his associates anything to do from their plans !!! And this is the main and sad result of the presidency of Trump !!!

        The main idea of ​​Trump was and is that the United States is enough to attack on external fronts and it is high time to tackle its internal problems !!! Building a strong America is just a slogan about the internal affairs of the state ... The big protests in the USA at the end of Trump’s term are an obvious failure of America’s isolation policy and the acceleration of the collapse of the dollar empire ... This scenario can simply be described as follows - The United States, carried away by advancement on external fronts, will be swept away and destroyed by a hurricane of its internal problems ... Another suicidal attempt by the next superhumans to take over the world !!!
  3. Svetlana
    Svetlana 24 June 2020 13: 40 New
    +3
    Quote: rotkiv04
    the country of evil and obscurantism UWB should be destroyed with or without trump

    You're still a shoe on the podium.
    1. Pavel73
      Pavel73 24 June 2020 14: 02 New
      0
      He is a provocateur.
      1. rotkiv04
        rotkiv04 24 June 2020 14: 48 New
        0
        You yourself are a provocateur, a lover of pindosni
  4. Russ
    Russ 24 June 2020 13: 42 New
    +4
    "Стена"? Сильно сказано... топь!
    He did not want to give a dime, rightly believing that the allocated funds would still be stolen.

    No matter how much you give everything in the breakthrough .... wink
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 June 2020 14: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Russia
      No matter how much you give everything to break through ..

      These lads have no equal in the looting.
      1. Normal ok
        Normal ok 24 June 2020 15: 06 New
        -6
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Russia
        No matter how much you give everything to break through ..

        These lads have no equal in the looting.

        Ну, до космодрома "Восточный" им как до Киева задом наперед))
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 24 June 2020 18: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: Normal ok
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Russia
          No matter how much you give everything to break through ..

          These lads have no equal in the looting.

          Ну, до космодрома "Восточный" им как до Киева задом наперед))

          Not a good example. Is there no spaceport? Definitely - Yes!
          And if you ask a question, is there Ukraine? Definitely - No! They even sold the land, not to mention the remnants of sovereignty with statehood. The colony.
    2. major147
      major147 24 June 2020 14: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: Russia
      "Стена"? Сильно сказано...

      Я бы сказал "прокладка".... из рекламы! А дальнейшая судьба "прокладки" печальна....
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 24 June 2020 21: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: major147
        Quote: Russia
        "Стена"? Сильно сказано...

        Я бы сказал "прокладка".... из рекламы! А дальнейшая судьба "прокладки" печальна....

        Trumpampam is bluffing. Ukraine consumables in the confrontation of the USA against Russia and China
    3. Clear
      Clear 24 June 2020 18: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: Russia
      "Стена"? Сильно сказано... топь!
      He did not want to give a dime, rightly believing that the allocated funds would still be stolen.

      No matter how much you give everything in the breakthrough .... wink

      So her, this quagmire, no matter how much, there will still be a breakthrough. Checked 100500 times.
      Marus, what a beautiful kitty love
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 24 June 2020 13: 48 New
    +1
    Conversations, conversations drag on, but ... enmity remains!
    How all kinds of ex-cones like to speculate about what was not and could not be!
    Stripes, it’s so SYSTEM, where not everything depends on one person, sales of the very top, it would seem.
    1. Gaubvaxta
      Gaubvaxta 24 June 2020 13: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      How all kinds of ex-cones like to speculate about what was not and could not be!
      Stripes, it’s so SYSTEM, where not everything depends on one person, sales of the very top, it would seem.

      Yes Victor .. It’s interesting to observe what is happening in America .. As if something like this hadn’t worked for us .. God forbid .. We can’t calmly, if we shoot like that .. I don’t want to, although this is being pushed ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 June 2020 14: 27 New
        +1
        For those who push, the pusher has not grown. An empty chatter not from a great mind, but even for tsuzuy interes.
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  7. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 24 June 2020 14: 05 New
    +1
    Trump called Ukraine a “wall” between the two countries when there was a discussion of military assistance to Kiev in the amount of $ 250 million. He did not want to give a dime, rightly believing that the allocated funds would still be stolen.
    Что разворуют, Трамп уже давно понял, а какая может быть "стена", когда от Вашингтона до Киева почти 800 км, а вот океан имеется. Опять у Трампа с географией напряги. А доллары заставил платить НАТОвцев, вот тут бизнесмен.
  8. Kurare
    Kurare 24 June 2020 14: 07 New
    +1
    Is Ukraine a wall? Rather, a suitcase without a handle. Obama and his gang thought that Russia would simply take and swallow the results of the Maidan. And here you go: Crimea - gone, East - almost the same.

    У Обамы был только план А, который с треском провалился. Теперь без плана, только деньги на "поддержание демократии" давай. Вот и расхлёбывают.
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 24 June 2020 15: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Kurare
      Obama with his gang

      Болтон в своих воспоминаниях пишет, что Обама - если Россия в своих действиях ограничится присоединением Крыма, то конфронтацию из-за Украины можно будет прекратить. Хотя верить или нет... Год назад - "Вы знаете, Обама уже не президент, но тем не менее есть определенные вещи, о которых мы публично не говорим. Во всяком случае, могу так сказать, что наши договоренности, которые были достигнуты в этом телефонном разговоре, с американской стороны не были исполнены". Что реально думал и делал Обама может когда и узнаем... какие решения будут приняты сейчас... Да и интересно ошибся Кейси в том, что последним президентом штатов станет № 44, ели брать конкретных личностей то сейчас как раз 44....
      1. Kurare
        Kurare 24 June 2020 16: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: BrTurin
        Bolton in his memoirs writes that Obama - if Russia in its actions is limited to the annexation of Crimea, then the confrontation over Ukraine can be stopped. Although to believe or not ...

        No, do not believe. Bolton was not at Obama’s headquarters, how can he know this? And the paper will endure.
        Quote: BrTurin
        ... Obama is no longer the president, but nevertheless there are certain things that we are not talking about publicly. In any case, I can say so ...

        Эт как бы: "я конечно же тайны выдавать не буду, но кое-что всё таки расскажу".
        I DO NOT BELIEVE, I don’t believe a single word of Bolton!
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 24 June 2020 16: 24 New
          +1
          Sorry Kurare, the comment turned out crooked ... the last quote is GDP, but I am not inclined to believe Bolton ...
          1. Kurare
            Kurare 24 June 2020 16: 29 New
            +1
            Quote: BrTurin
            Sorry, comment turned out Kurare ...

            It happens.
            Quote: BrTurin
            last quote is gdp

            Then it can be anything. After all, the GDP did not say what they were talking with Obama. He is not Anders Fogh Rasmussen, who simply took, but gave out all the details of a confidential conversation with Putin.
  9. samarin1969
    samarin1969 24 June 2020 14: 13 New
    +5
    It doesn't really matter what Bolton said about what Trump said. No matter what Trump says, it matters what he does.
    При Трампе уровень военно-технического сотрудничества Штатов с Киевом вырос в разы. Обама так по "красным линиям" не топтался.
    Постоянные попытки отечественных СМИ увидеть в Трампе скрытого "голубя" просто нелепы. Если бы не история с Байденом, то модернизация ВСУ на деньги США была бы ещё масштабней.
  10. businessv
    businessv 24 June 2020 14: 14 New
    +1
    Once he even declared that the pro-Russian president of Ukraine could have prevented the Third World War.
    Trump will definitely not refuse logic!
  11. askort154
    askort154 24 June 2020 14: 20 New
    0
    Bolton: Trump called Ukraine the wall between the US and Russia

    Так считали многие в США, и их приспешники, поведясь на стратегию Бжезинского - Россия без Украины "сдуется". А в реалии оказалось - Украина, это всего лишь " 95 квартал" на границе с Россией, который жаждет пиара на международной сцене, и бабла с покровителей, придумав лозунг - " весь мир с нами". Что касаемо Трампа, какой с него спрос, если он считает, что Финляндия до сих пор входит в состав России. Хотя ?! А вдруг !... Его после смерти обрекут сподвижником Нострадамуса или Ванги. Тем патче, если Трамп имел ввиду " это стену" - мешающую взаимоотношениям между США и Россией.
  12. Poetry
    Poetry 24 June 2020 14: 26 New
    -1
    Trump thought he was some kind of fool,
    But Bolton was just a snitch.
    Stabbed trump worse than a knife,
    The damned chatterbox, John Bolton.
    1. Gaubvaxta
      Gaubvaxta 24 June 2020 14: 37 New
      -3
      Quote: Poetiszaugla
      Trump thought he was some kind of fool,
      But Bolton was just a snitch.
      Stabbed trump worse than a knife,
      The damned chatterbox, John Bolton.

      And Bolton is a cunning dude ..
      He is preparing to push
      And Hillary is such a b ..
      And takes revenge to the full see ..
      And people don’t give a damn about her!
      Well, Russia is everything, all the shit on the fan
  13. Prisoner
    Prisoner 24 June 2020 14: 36 New
    0
    Да разве это стена? Плетень! Сами в Штатах между своими партиями разобраться не могут сотрудничать или бодаться с Россией, а валят на этих ничтожо сумняшихся соседушек наших драгоценных, на этих валетов "козырных", на этих...на пуп матушки Земли нашей короче. laughing
  14. iouris
    iouris 24 June 2020 14: 41 New
    +1
    Bolton is sure that Ukraine is located somewhere in the Bering Strait.
    1. Poetry
      Poetry 24 June 2020 15: 36 New
      0
      He does not know where the Bering Strait is.
  15. orionvitt
    orionvitt 24 June 2020 14: 57 New
    +1
    Цинизм зашкаливает. Сначала вваливают миллиарды баксов в антироссийскую пропаганду, майданы и разжигание войны, а потом слёзно жалуются, что существует какая то "стена". Двуличные твари.
  16. Poetry
    Poetry 24 June 2020 15: 03 New
    -2
    In the reserve of freedoms and democracies
    The old grandfather looms, stooped and thin,
    It’s known that his name is Kondratius,
    And what looms before a terrible misfortune.

    Kondratius is worse than black cats,
    Worse than birds that beat against glass
    Grandfather did not meow and grandfather did not beat the windows ...
    He made it clear your time is up.

    Harbinger of grief, upheaval and loss,
    There he appeared where trouble would soon be.
    Knocking his stick, shuffles Kondrat,
    Old grandfather with a white - white beard.

    In the country of dealers, killers and prostitutes
    There are unrest of large masses.
    Someone greatly excites their reason,
    I only know it was not Fantomas ...
  17. Doccor18
    Doccor18 24 June 2020 15: 15 New
    +2
    Bolton: Trump called Ukraine the wall between the US and Russia

    Раздолбали империю Света, оторвали с корнями огромный кусок и превратили его в помойку, а теперь "сожалеют" и "откровеничают".
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    1. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 24 June 2020 21: 02 New
      -1
      Against Russia, of course, few are cowards, they have always been rare, but as Bandera's punishers against the peaceful Russian population, only no soldiers were very successful.
  19. Alexfly
    Alexfly 24 June 2020 17: 29 New
    0
    They called it a wall, and as you thought a battlefield, for sure. It's like Belgium, at one time dubbed the battlefield between the Germans, the British, the French and the Dutch ... Few things change in the heads of hawks, understanding only fraction ....
  20. bk0010
    bk0010 24 June 2020 22: 27 New
    0
    He believed that they were simply plundered.
    "Шаман, однако!" И откуда он все знает...