The US put forward a number of conditions for the extension of START-3

The administration of U.S. President Donald Trump may renew the strategic offensive arms treaty with the Russian Federation. But in response, it requires the fulfillment of three conditions.

About this writes the Wall Street Journal.

According to them, US President Donald Trump will re-sign this agreement if the Russian side agrees to certain conditions. The American leader proposes to include new stringent verification measures in the agreement. In addition, the parties must take into account absolutely all of their nuclear warheads. And, probably, the most important condition is the accession to the treaty of a third party - the People’s Republic of China.

After listing all this, the source of the publication added that the conditions put forward are quite possibly not final, and Trump may require something else.

Consultations between the US and Russia on the extension of the START-3 agreement took place on June 22 in Vienna. At the meeting, many issues were discussed, including guarantees of stability and predictability of the parties' actions after the United States withdrew from the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles.

START-3 was concluded by Russia and the United States in 2010 and entered into force in 2011. In February 2021, it will expire.

The reaction of the Chinese side to the conditions of trump has not yet been reported.

Comments

[Gaubvaxta]

Could instead of this article the Victory Parade be included on-line .. Or is the site no longer Russian?
Oh you ..
Everything is beautiful .. The soul rejoices! Mother Russia is alive!

[fetus]

watching the Victory Parade! I am proud of the victory of our fathers and grandfathers. But on Trump’s demand. I want to ask .. and the United States may still require something from Russia? EBN era is over.

[Valery Valery]

Parade!!!! Victory!!! Glory to Russia!!!
Glory to the SOVIET PEOPLE !!!





And Trump, with his terms, is in ..... !!!

[Tusv]

Quote: janin

and can the USA still demand something from Russia?

Probably the fairest claim to take Alaska back

[fetus]

Quote: Tusv

Probably the fairest claim to take Alaska back

a referendum should be held. in order to give the "Alaskans" to express their will)

[Jack O'Neill]

And will you pay at the current rate for Alaska? Let me remind you that Catherine did not give. but sold Alaska.

[Tusv]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Let me remind you that Catherine did not give. but sold Alaska.

Let me remind you that Lube was mistaken with Catherine

[Jack O'Neill]

Let me remind you that Lube was mistaken with Catherine

Well, if it’s a mistake, then you need to return the money, right? We are not bandits, right?

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

then you need to return the money, right?

Three million dollars to return? Yes Easy. Moreover, the Americans have not paid 10 thousand dollars for Fort Ross so far. The court may recognize the deal fraudulent - and give back to the United States.

[sabakina]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

And will you pay at the current rate for Alaska? Let me remind you that Catherine did not give. but sold Alaska.

Jack O'Neill, have you personally counted what Russia should have received for Alaska? As far as I remember, the ship that was carrying gold for Alaska, as Vladimir Putin would put it ... "He drowned" ...
P.S. Alaska was not sold by Catherine II, but by Alexander II in 1867. Manual update however ...

[sabakina]

Suppose, and where does Catherine II?

[Jack O'Neill]

Suppose, and where does Catherine II?

I always thought that Catherine had sold, and it was already heard. Wrong, it happens. Sold by Alexander II. But this does not change the essence. We sold the land and got the money.
Those. It turns out how, first to sell, and then, how to squeeze a gopat?
If you bought for example shavuha, i.e. they received a product for their rubles, and after they’ll squeeze it out at the exit, how will it be?

[Stealight]

"written by an unknown employee"
Feel free to ask, what is this?

[antivirus]

if China joins - then negotiations and signing in Singapore (or TOKYO)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Gaubvaxta

Could instead of this article the Victory Parade in the online include.

Well, why, here I am on my computer and look at the victory parade, and the site is also open.

[Motorist]

Quote: ApJlekuHo

they train us with parasite words

Parasite words sort of like ... well, sort of ... that ... in (!) - for a second I’d say a little others.

[newcomer]

No certainty. Everything is within the framework of "Highley Like". And let them themselves pull the Chinese to the table, not forgetting at the same time their vassals who own nuclear weapons.

[cniza]

The appearance of violent activity is created, which would then blame us and China.

[newcomer]

I agree. In any case, they have accusations and accusations in store: they didn’t bring that, they couldn’t bring it, they couldn’t keep the Chinese in the framework of the agreement. This is called throwing your problem / wishlist onto our shoulders. And the initial question: what? What are we, messengers ?!

[cniza]

That's just the point, such contracts are signed / extended without preliminary Wishlist, since everyone is interested.

[Poetry]

"Katz invites everyone to surrender."

[To be or not to be]

Trump bluffs and bargains as always
What can be the conditions of the lagging party (USA) in the development and creation of modern delivery systems based on new physical principles. Conditions. Seems. Dictates strong? China directly sent the United States with a treaty.

[Doccor18]

The United States understands why a treaty is needed. But why is he to Russia, and even more so to China? The Americans lagged behind and now, as in the distant 1922, they want to use tricks and pressure to reduce the successes of others to nothing.

[cniza]

That's right, they need more than us, so let them strain.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Th for a military cowboy in the photo.

[Poetry]

There the horse is still tied, it has not fit into the frame. Cowboy troops.

[soul]

Due to China’s position, these conditions are not feasible in advance. Let others.

[zadorin1974]

Then let Israel join with France and England.

[Doccor18]

Arsenals of France, England and Israel are the trump ace of the United States in the sleeve. If you need to apply - apply. But they will never agree to a treaty to limit the arsenals of their allies.

[zadorin1974]

Good Aleksakndr. France and England do not hide the number, but the Jews still do not recognize. According to him, only assumptions (almost divination on maps)

[Tusv]

Quote: Doccor18

Arsenals of France, England and Israel are the trump ace of the United States in the sleeve.

Exactly for sure. On English submarines, unaccounted for rented American Tridents stand. Must be cut by a new treaty

[Pacifist]

Generally meaningless action. They are non-negotiable. Any paper signed by the USA is no more valuable than used toilet paper. He demands ... demand from your wife. In response, we could demand that all NATO countries with nuclear weapons be included in the treaty and consider them one arsenal. In general, at this stage, there is not a single argument in favor of any agreements with them.

[cniza]

So we need to do so, since they want to set conditions, let them receive conditions from us.

[evgen1221]

Too long to be the hegemon and dominant harmful brains swim. They really believe that we can order something from China? Once the Chinese are trying to fasten the agreement through us. This is more likely for us both China and the states to send orders than we can do there. In general, it will not be rolled for reasons beyond our control.

[cniza]

Now, let them agree with China themselves ...

[Igor Polovodov]

The company with the cowboy and the blackmailer of all the land is bad in essence ... we make promises ourselves, we take them ourselves ...
Communication is purely diplomatic picks ...
there can be no real contracts with cheaters ...

[cniza]

They really want to humiliate us, but quite ...

[Russ]

China will stopudovo refuse ... so that their Wishlist will remain Wishlist ....

[codetalker]

This should be understood as a rejection of the START Treaty?) Well, is this usually done “diplomatically”? Impossible conditions ... China seems not to be our colony or some kind of protectorate.

[Mountain shooter]

It sounds something like this - hey, give up, give up again, and these, from a neighboring yard, give up!
A logical question - WHY? In response, we hear something like - well, we are a hegemon! And EVERYTHING owes to us!

[cniza]

How do they convey this meaning, or do they really not understand?

[knn54]

-and Trump may require something else.
The Yankees have ALL decided, because they are baked ONLY about their own benefit. It remains to label the Russian Federation and China.

[cniza]

But they will do so and blame us with the Chinese ...

[Graz]

we absolutely do not need this agreement at any cost, the agreement is a concession on both sides and takes into account the interests of both parties (well, or several parties to the parties to the agreement), and not just one American

[cniza]

I also think that the US needs it more ...

[Talgarets]

1. As practice has shown, Trump cannot be trusted.
2. The agreement is prolonged subject to the accession of the PRC to it. Who and how will ensure the accession of China?
3. Usually, any changes to the contract are made on the basis of joint agreements of the parties, otherwise the contract is unequal.
Based on the above, it follows that the announced statement is another bunch into a puddle, the meaning of which is "We offered you, you yourself refused."

[cniza]

They just don’t know what to do, but they are trying to portray rough work.

[Jack O'Neill]

And, probably, the most important condition is the accession to the treaty of a third party - the People’s Republic of China.

Oddly enough, but this particular item should be the main one in START-4. And it will be strange if we and the Americans will reduce charges, and build up China. Meaning then in START-4? Yes, without China, it makes no sense.

[sabakina]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

And, probably, the most important condition is the accession to the treaty of a third party - the People’s Republic of China.

Oddly enough, but this particular item should be the main one in START-4. And it will be strange if we and the Americans will reduce charges, and build up China. Meaning then in START-4? Yes, without China, it makes no sense.

And without Britain, France and Israel, would it make sense?

[Jack O'Neill]

And without Britain, France and Israel, would it make sense?

Yes, it will.
And yes, officially, Israel has no nuclear weapons. Do Great Britain and France cut a lot then?

[sabakina]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

And without Britain, France and Israel, would it make sense?

Yes, it will.
And yes, officially, Israel has no nuclear weapons. Do Great Britain and France cut a lot then?

Uncle Petya, are you that? Britain, France and Israel are in the Warsaw Pact or NATO?

[Jack O'Neill]

Uncle Petya, are you that? Britain, France and Israel are in the Warsaw Pact or NATO?

And what about the fact that France and Britain are in NATO?
Israel is neither a NATO nor a Warsaw Pact.

[gsev]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Israel is neither a NATO nor a Warsaw Pact.

China is also not a member of any bloc. Therefore, demanding the inclusion of Israel, Pakistan, and India is just as legitimate as the PRC. I assume that the PRC and DPRK will agree to participate in such an agreement on the following conditions; the reduction of US warheads to their level and the transfer to them of uranium and plutonium from US stocks for parity in nuclear weapons (or rather, in raw materials for the production of such weapons).

[Jack O'Neill]

So Israel doesn’t have nuclear weapons? What did Israel forget in START? And what offensive weapons should Israel reduce?
Pakistan, India, North Korea, they also have nothing special to cut. For show, of course, it is possible, but in fact it will not work.

[gsev]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

So Israel doesn’t have nuclear weapons?

As far as I know, there are about 50 years.

[Jack O'Neill]

As far as I know, there are about 50 years.

Unofficially.
But even if Israel has nuclear weapons, then it is also unlikely that there is any way to reduce it.
Another thing is a treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. Here it should be written and executed by everyone who has one.

[gsev]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Unofficially.
But even if Israel has nuclear weapons,

But didn’t Israel explicitly warn all of its probable opponents about the presence of these weapons? In 1973, Israeli installations seemed to be openly made for firing on advancing Arabs with special warheads.

[Jack O'Neill]

But didn’t Israel explicitly warn its probable opponents of the presence of these weapons? In 1973, Israeli installations seemed to be openly made for firing on advancing Arabs with special warheads.

This is called a bluff. Khrushchev, too, once bluffed ...

[Rurikovich]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Do Great Britain and France cut a lot then?

Jackie, naive you are our Chukchi youth At the beginning of the zero, France had 384 strategic nuclear warheads, the UK - 215 pieces ... We will lower Israel - Jews are Jews ...
But you propose not to take into account about 600 warheads of US allies and faithful vassals ??? Somehow not in patsaki
For me, there are so few cons to you

[Jack O'Neill]

Jackie, naive you are our Chukchi youth lol At the beginning of the zero France had 384 strategic nuclear warheads, the UK - 215 pieces ...

So what?..
Then we will also have to reduce our warheads to the same level, so that it’s patsansky.
Remind me how many warheads Russia has? Mmm ~ 1.5000, somewhere like that?

But you propose not to take into account about 600 warheads of US allies and faithful vassals ??? Somehow not in patsaki negative

Well, yes, that's what I wrote about.
Who will reduce their charges, which the cat wept so much, just because one country does not like it, which has ~ 1.500 of these.
Megalomania called!
You are neither better nor worse than the French with the Britons, so why should they cut much more than us? I do not think that is better than others, and you?

[Rurikovich]

Quote: Jack O'Neill

So what?

And the fact that when in total the USSR (and then Russia) had more warheads and carriers than the United States and its faithful NATO allies, such an agreement was beneficial to the Americans, such as to equalize (it turned out that we destroyed more than the USA. Then, when there was parity on carriers and warheads (700 carriers and 1550 warheads), it turned out that in the case of faq, the United States still has a trump card in the sleeve in the form of allied 600-hundred warheads of its vassals.
Given that Article 5 of the NATO treaty implies an immediate response in the event of an attack on one of the members, we receive an automatic advantage against Russia of 600 warheads
Jackie, is it patsaki ???
Remember one small thing - Americans sign contracts when they are confident in their superiority. And they all know that they know how to unilaterally tear them up (Iran will not let me break it, and the Open Skies Treaty) ...
Jack, America is a non-negotiable liar

[Jack O'Neill]

600 allied warheads won't make the weather. Moreover, if the allied nuclei fly, it means that both we and the Americans have already pulled into each other. That we have radioactive ashes, that they have.
But one cannot perceive the entire bloc as one country. Today is in the block, but not tomorrow (France). And what should they do when they have 10-20 nuclear warheads and they will be outside the block?
Not patsansky all the same.)

[krops777]

The US put forward a number of conditions for the extension of START-3

It does not even come to the star-striped that it is necessary to put forward no conditions, and you will be able to agree on proposals, you look at something, but pride does not allow it.

[cniza]

Rather, there are not enough brains, they have completely grown ...

[Yura]

Yes, he went, this Trump blacks to set their conditions or accept their requirements, and I also went, look for my felt boot, but I stocked somewhere.

[cniza]

Trump would not be Trump if he had not been bargaining, but in this case they did not explain to him what was what.

[Yura]

Quote: cniza

but in this case they didn’t explain to him what was what.

This is yes, because bargaining involves the promotion of conditions by both parties, for example, Russia in this case has the right to demand accession to the treaty besides China also Britain, France, India, Pakistan, North Korea and all other countries. These will be legitimate and fair demands, but obviously unenforceable at least in the next decade or two, hence the conclusion - the USA does not need an agreement, therefore they take it under its conditions, but snakes with mountain bears in a deliberately deadlock situation already preceded Russia and China, Russia has the need to do the same, we will wait for our response steps.

[cniza]

But we have no choice but to put forward counterclaims, otherwise they will all be brought down on us.

[gsev]

Quote: Jura

Russia in this case has the right to demand accession to the treaty besides China also Britain, France, India, Pakistan, North Korea and all other countries.

Russia and the United States can only ask these countries. The DPRK seems to be in talks with the United States, but so far Kim has not achieved anything tangible from Trump. Koreans successfully defend their interests with the United States from a position of strength than in diplomatic battles. At present, Russia sees the threat only from the US nuclear weapons and no action will be taken to change the policies of other nuclear countries for fear of deterioration in relations with these countries from the PRC to Israel as a result of hasty diplomatic steps.

[Yura]

Quote: gsev

Russia and the USA may

I have no particular objections regarding your post, but there is a moment in this story - the existing agreement implies an automatic extension (prolongation) if the parties have no objections to it and they confirm this extension, Russia has never voiced its withdrawal from the agreement or about any special conditions. Here, everything is very simple, the contract is extended as it is, if this is not there, then there is no contract, if something else means this is another contract.

[u123uuu]

It was time to demand their time, six of them should be ours.

[cniza]

Such agreements are signed without preconditions, since all parties are interested in it, and Trump decided to bargain, this is his problem.

[lopvlad]

put forward a number of conditions

to cut all modern weapons and take the trash out of the Urals + to conclude a new analogue of the CFE Treaty? What else can they offer besides this, while being conveniently located right next to the state borders of Russia.
So the extension of START-3 to go to the trash with a very high probability.

[cniza]

Nobody forbids them to dream ...

[rocket757]

Collaborate with those who do not intend to do this .... empty chores.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

Collaborate with those who do not intend to do this .... empty chores.

They do not have specialists, or rather they are not in power, who would clearly explain them to the President of today and the future, that the United States is more interested in this agreement than Russia, if they do not understand this, these are their problems. Greetings!

[rocket757]

Hi
It is useless to explain to them, they need to prove in real life, Schaub was sensitive, at the very most.

[cniza]

Well, in real life, I really would not want to, but they can force it.

[rocket757]

Yes, it’s impossible to bring to extreme. So you need to be more cunning, smarter than you need, more sophisticated ... wherever you go around the edge, but Schaub sensations were unforgettable.
Everything is possible, if carefully.

[cniza]

I agree, and we have people who can do this.

[rocket757]

At least there is someone to teach! And we always have talented, purposeful youth!

[cniza]

And they continue to escalate the US and it looks like an army corps with all the infrastructure will be deployed in Poland.

[rocket757]

Another cross on the map .... let them.

[cniza]

They don't understand this, but when their people find out, I think they will experience "happiness."

[rocket757]

There patriotic fervor, in half with stupidity .... however, they have sane! As elsewhere, they are in the minority.

[Tatyana Sementsova]

Well, the United States is already at a different level to dictate the conditions .... These phantom memories of past power make it difficult to go down to earth ...... But they bring your acquaintance with Poseidon and the Dagger very close ...
And the parade is really gorgeous !!! All a happy holiday !!!!

[Stealight]

"But in return, she demands three conditions."
Seriously ? Have you already set off? You need it just like us. Nothing to build a girl from.

[cniza]

These are trump methods, he thinks that he is still doing business ...

[Stealight]

Well, there are two options. Or he just doesn’t want to extend it and set unacceptable conditions, so that later he would throw the blame on us, they say, I suggested to the Russians, and they refused such bad ones. Or, he went quite a cuckoo. Something like this :)

[cniza]

It is not clear there who advises him and what, but everything goes to the point of blaming us and China.

[Stealight]

So it’s as clear as God's day :)

[cniza]

Someone apparently is not clear if they put the minuses.

[kriten]

What conditions? They now need to fulfill the conditions of blacks and quickly ruin the country for black fun. And in general - there is no need to talk with whites there yet.

[cniza]

God forbid they fall apart and what to do with their I.O.? and who will it have?

[cniza]

After listing all this, the source of the publication added that the conditions put forward are quite possibly not final, and Trump may require something else.

As the saying goes, let his wife require ...

[rocket757]

No, no, Milania is not interfering in such dirty games. Gorgeous first ... lady, I have to admit it.
Let his advisers require the non-possible. This is their game!

[cniza]

Okay, we won’t, especially as she is a Slav, and their games are not right at all, the world is barely holding on ...

[rocket757]

This is the world, they pretty much closed themselves! It will be difficult to fall off, but if you want, everything is possible.

[cniza]

Just not just that, it can break a lot of things.

[rocket757]

Want and then be smart! Although, you can Tycho, Tycho, where you need to steer. There is a choice of options.

[Gennady Fomkin]

What are the conditions? Penance should be imposed on the sinner. In case of relapse, kissing the feet also - three times, crosswise

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: cniza

God forbid they fall apart and what to do with their I.O.? and who will it have?

Let the "world community" have a headache

[cniza]

And we that live on another planet?

[Knell wardenheart]

It's not in our interest to bend over to this deal. Behind the backs of the United States there are arsenals of Britain and France - for ours only ours. So let the collapse of this treaty be on the conscience of the Americans.

[Wolf]

Agree with Western "partners" is not worth the paper on which it is written!

[doubovitski]

Well, and what the hell is an EXTENSION if NEW conditions are set? This is a NEW contract. Then they are simply obliged to listen to OUR demands. Otherwise, let them go to Hell ..

[colotun]

"RUS, GIVE UP !!!" = told us = Russia, once again, the US and NATO

[123456789]

The American leader proposes to include new stringent verification measures in the agreement. In addition, the parties must take into account absolutely all of their nuclear warheads. .

The dissolution of NATO and the withdrawal of all American troops from the continent and the Japanese islands should be a counter condition.
About the return of Alaska has already been written.

And, probably, the most important condition is the accession to the treaty of a third party - the People’s Republic of China

Join - the Russian Federation does not mind.

[rocket757]

On the other hand, a sharpie whose sleeve is already empty ....
He can still play, play tricks, shuffle, but since he’s just in the banks, he may very well fail. Under lost all trump cards and get them not from kudova.
In general, you need to look carefully, Schaub did not pull from the deck, then he really needs a sho!

[rotkiv04]

Let the pindos go forest in a known direction

[ANB]

New conditions are discussed at the conclusion of a new contract.
Extension means the extension of the contract on the original terms. Changes are allowed if they were again specified in the initial contract (for example, the deposit rate is maintained, but no more than the current one at the time of renewal).
Something in the United States, even with terminology is not very.

[steelmaker]

Having weapons is enough to destroy not only the state, but the planet several times. Why then produce and increase nuclear charges? When having can be upgraded! If the United States also wants to attract China to the signing of the treaty, then England and France must be involved! It’s just that the United States shows who is in charge with their show off! And who needs to obey. Send them !! And more often. And say that let them choke on their nuclear charges! And we just upgrade our own, and it’s enough for them to die several times !!

[Gennady Fomkin]

Billingsliv let his sexual partner sets conditions) They do not want to - do not. Let them walk in the forest, breathe freedom molecules. Nerusi, what to take from them ... They will behave well - we will give them a specially trained interpreter

[Gennady Fomkin]

The United States is not negotiable, can only put forward demands to other states, and in the country itself a mess, they can lose the country, as happened with the USSR.

[APASUS]

To put forward a demand for Russia to include China in the treaty? May ask Ukrainians to bury the Black Sea back ...............
Where is world politics moving, why are foolish people governing the world while solving global problems!