A visual comparison of the compartments for the T-14 Armata crew and other tanks is presented.

Continuing the theme of comparing the linear dimensions (along the length of the case and its height) of the Russian Tanks T-14 “Armata” with tanks of other countries released material with a comparison of a slightly different sense.

The Canadian engineer from Toronto (Ontario) Michael (Mike) Mikhailovich, whose diagrams the Military Review reported the day before, presents a new comparative visualization. This time it is dedicated to crew compartments.

The comparison is carried out on the T-14 tanks "Armata" (Russia), Type99 (China), Merkava (Israel), Leclerc (France), "Leopard-2" (Germany).

It is noted that the compartment for the crew of the Russian T-14 Armata tank is the most protected in comparison with other tanks.

This is understandable. After all, the tower is not used to accommodate the T-14 crew, unlike the tanks of the previous generation. The crew of "Almaty" is an armored capsule located in front of the tank corps. The volume of this capsule is not as large as in a number of other tanks (including those for which a visual comparison is made), but ergonomics (convenience) for the tankers themselves are significantly increased. The capsule is able to protect the crew, for example, from the consequences of fire of the ammunition, giving time to the military to leave the car before detonation.

Comments

[soul]

Again analysis by pictures ...

[Thrall]

And I have another question:
- Why does a Canadian engineer advertise Armata?

[Shurik70]

Quote: Thrall

And I have another question:
- Why does a Canadian engineer advertise Armata?

And the second - why all tanks have a red compartment, while Merkava has blue. What is he hinting at?

[Ragnar Lodbrok]

Quote: Gaubvaxta

Recently Israel has allowed gay marriage officially .. maybe a hint of it?

What does it have to do with it? Okay, Mikhan, don't distract. Where is "Armata", epereste?

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: Ragnar lodbrok

Quote: Gaubvaxta

Recently Israel has allowed gay marriage officially .. maybe a hint of it?

What does it have to do with it? Okay, Mikhan, don't distract. Where is "Armata", epereste?

Again, my comments are deleted .. Interestingly, but who is there Moder from Israel already? Hopefully not a professor-cranial?

[max702]

It's not like the moderators, here are the owners of the site ...

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: max702

It's not like moderators, here are the owners of the site Ottudov ..

"Helped" the site is called to officially register .. I remember in 15 ..
First, the cons were banned, then the flags disappeared .... A purely Jewish site has become.!
Beautifully done things .. And how many of these sites crushed?
Professor Eternal Colonel !!!!!! And before, I ran around in turtles and complained to everyone ... For which it was me)))))))
These are the things men go ..Where to go and I don’t know. Everywhere they sat.

[max702]

And this is my friend, one of the fronts of the info war .. Like education, medicine, not to mention finances and the media .. Work goes on all fronts and it does not notice either blind or paid .. So there’s at least some attempt to throw it off the yoke is planned ..

[Looking for]

"It's not like the moderators, here are the owners of the site fromtudova ..." With all the ensuing consequences.

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: Shurik70

why all tanks have a red compartment and Merkava blue. What is he hinting at?

And Abrams was generally shy to show

[Doccor18]

The call of the soul. Well, like it.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Thrall

Why does a Canadian engineer advertise Armata?

Because he is Mikhalych!

Canadian engineer from Toronto (Ontario) Michael (Mike) Mikhailovich

[Romka47]

Perhaps precisely because he is an engineer and not a political scientist

[Civil]

Well ... interesting of course

[AUL]

Vadim, do not worry, not you alone. They also delete me without explaining the reasons (if this makes it easier for you).

[Bad_gr]

Quote: alma

Again analysis by pictures ...

It is not correct to compare only by these pictures. We need to add pictures "top view".
Then our compartment will look like a rectangle from side to side, and for example, Leopard-2, the crew’s living space is something like this:

In the basket on the right side of the breech gun 2 people are sitting on the left side 1-in (charging). The height from the floor to the roof is 1,65 m. Well, in the case, the driver has less space than the loader.

[Zaurbek]

Doesn't Merkava have an infantry compartment in the back?

[Doctor]

Doesn't Merkava have an infantry compartment in the back?

Exactly, a strange picture, here is a diagram, though from above.

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: Arzt

Doesn't Merkava have an infantry compartment in the back?

Exactly, a strange picture, here is a diagram, though from above.

Interesting ..! Here a friend asks, but there is a diagram of vulnerable parts in the "Merkava" tank .. Well, if you zhahnat RPG?

[Doctor]

Interesting ..! Here a friend asks, but there is a diagram of vulnerable parts in the "Merkava" tank .. Well, if you zhahnat RPG?

Here is a good article with analysis and specific examples:

https://war-tundra.livejournal.com/3584617.html

General conclusion:

Thus, given all the above, it becomes completely clear that the vaunted superprotection of the Merkava tank is nothing more than a popular myth.
Tanks without vulnerabilities do not exist.

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: Arzt

Thus, given all the above, it becomes completely clear that the vaunted superprotection of the Merkava tank is nothing more than a popular myth.
Tanks without vulnerabilities do not exist.

Well, it’s not in vain that they shoot Arabs from afar and withdraw, then the aircraft will iron .. The Wehrmacht’s tactics

[pereselenec]

Quote: Gaubvaxta

Well, it’s not in vain that they shoot Arabs from afar and withdraw, then the aircraft will iron .. The Wehrmacht’s tactics

What jackals. To garlic - you have to fight with the broads on the fists. Without the use of aviation. Well, like ours in Syria

[Thunderbringer]

Where are you from?

[pereselenec]

Quote: Thunderbringer

Where are you from?

Weela at the request of the Syrian government, but what?

[Boris ⁣ Shaver]

Quote: pereselenec

Weela at the request of the Syrian government, but what?

You are confused

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: pereselenec

To garlic - you have to fight with the broads on the fists.

Or, like the Chinese with the Indians on stones and sticks.

[Zaurbek]

They are the same as everywhere else. Only a lot of attention was paid, so that the penetration of the armor does not lead to explosions and fires. 2nd generation ATGMs such as TOU and Kornetov with a penetration of 1200mm for DZ already allow you not to choose a place to hit. Punch everywhere. And 3rd generation hit the roof.

[Grazdanin]

In the forehead is not everywhere, do not exaggerate. It definitely won’t penetrate the forehead of the tower, the building is 50/50. The third generation is only in the west.
Now armored vehicles are starting to be serially based on KAZ. In Israel already, in the USA they began to appear in the army.
In fact, a tank is a very vulnerable vehicle; in itself, it is an easy target for infantry. Without the support of infantry and other vehicles, it is useless. It must be used in the right tactical formations.

[Zaurbek]

There behind or BC or foot soldiers. All together cannot be. Like so.

[Grazdanin]

More precisely, additional BC. For this, a theater is a great solution when the days in the tank are very necessary volumes))

[Albert1988]

Quote: Zaurbek

Doesn't Merkava have an infantry compartment in the back?

Probably, it refers to the crew compartment ...

[voyaka uh]

"Is there no infantry compartment in the back of the Merkava?" ////
----
There is no longer a special compartment. While the shells were 105 mm, there was a place.
Racks with 120 mm shells almost "eaten" it.
There is a passage between the shelves, where three infantrymen can squat down.
Another person can be squeezed into the tower below the commander. In 2006, Lebanon in tanks sometimes carried with them the spotters-coordinators of artillery and aviation.

[Errr]

It happens that the tank tower flies off. After such a procedure, he generally turns into a convertible. The beauty of the crew in the fresh air !!! But with the T-14, this trick will not work. The design is not the same.

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: Herrr

It happens that the tank tower flies off. After such a procedure, he generally turns into a convertible. The beauty of the crew in the fresh air !!! But with the T-14, this trick will not work. The design is not the same.

Our designers took this into account .. Russia has a huge experience of tank battles .. Expensive, of course, but .. "Armata" was not created for frontal attacks ..

[Zaurbek]

Any tank is designed for a frontal attack. For the rest, there are simpler cars.

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: Zaurbek

Any tank is designed for a frontal attack. For the rest, there are simpler cars.

Well, in principle, probably so .. The tank fist of Russia needs to be created in the western direction .. And the "Armata" should go the second echelon ..
So far, only parades are prancing ..

[svp67]

The volume of this capsule is not as large as in a number of other tanks (including those for which there is a visual comparison)

Absolutely incorrect judgment based on the "pictures", as they do not show that the "living space" of classic tanks is not completely given to the crew, it is heavily crammed with various equipment, assemblies and mechanisms, one breech is worth something, and what remains for people is quite commensurate with the internal volume of the "Armata" capsule

[Peter is not the first]

From the Canadian infographic, everyone now understood that our new T14 tank is the largest, and the crew compartment in it is the smallest, but the most protected. ... win!
Instead of ellipsis, depending on who is from which country, they can put either "We" or "They".
Such is the power of infographics, anyone can draw their conclusions, either that it’s easier to get into a large size, or even if you get in, the crew will remain intact, or that the crew in a small allocated volume will be uncomfortable.

[abrakadabre]

... win!
Instead of ellipsis, depending on who is from which country, they can put either "We" or "They".

Better then take the historical - the inscriptions on the swords: "By this we will win."

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: Thrifty

It is necessary to sign the article "Measuring the genitals, part 2"! The next review will be about the width of the tracks, their resource, and cost?

We have a Russian saying: the tank isn’t as bad as its crew ..

These are the things in the tank divisions of the Urals!

[Grandfather]

Quote: Gaubvaxta

These are the things in the tank divisions of the Urals

Mihan, you do not stick to the Urals, no relation, you have nothing to it!

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: Dead Day

Quote: Gaubvaxta

These are the things in the tank divisions of the Urals

Mihan, you do not stick to the Urals, no relation, you have nothing to it!

Well, why? Just the Ural is the real evil and fighting .. So you hate me here .. hehe heh. Life here is not sugar, but we keep the defense.
Smirnov then calculated me, with the help of his comrades .. But he was scared .. But I saved everything! This is a crime already ..

[vladcub]

"but I was afraid" that I will bite?

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: vladcub

"but I was afraid" that I will bite?

Exactly .. hehe But I don’t take offense at him and the others .. They earn money, and I fight mother for Russia

[vladcub]

Actually, there are muzzles and a strong chain for biting people. Joke

[Avior]

In Loza’s memoirs, the Tankman on a foreign car wrote that the ammunition of the American Shermans did not explode during a fire in the tank.
And how, interestingly, is this the case now?

[Albert1988]

Quote: Avior

the ammunition of the American Shermans did not explode during a fire in the tank.

Only those Shermans who had a "wet" ammunition rack.
And in modern cars, any BK explodes, even in Abrash, when they get there ...

[113262a]

No capsule will save from detonation of BC! Who saw, understand! Often, even the fire did not have time to break out, the explosion immediately after breaking through! And if the un shooted OF-tower and the bottom, and the bottom ...

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: 113262

No capsule will save from detonation of BC! Who saw, understand! Often, even the fire did not have time to break out, the explosion immediately after breaking through! And if the un shooted OF-tower and the bottom, and the bottom ...

So you’re right, but still the chances of surviving in a capsule are much higher than just in a tank or an armored personnel carrier .... In battle, you would check and then everything would be clear ..!

[vladcub]

God forbid. God forbid that we only theoretically compare the security of the crew

[Alexander Trebuntsev]

And the Americans claim that the armored curtain in the tower of Abrams saves the crew from detonation. Like, when knocking out the knockout panels of the tower, the curtain saves the crew. In any case, they remain alive. Most likely, there is something similar in Armata too.

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Alexander Trebuntsev

the armored curtain in the tower of Abrams saves the crew from detonation

The driver will definitely survive, and the rest will be lucky depending on what explodes.

[Albert1988]

Quote: 113262

No capsule will save from detonation of BC!

Clear business, but from a fire - can save. May give time to evacuate from the car.

[vladcub]

Quote: Gaubvaxta

Quote: Zaurbek

Any tank is designed for a frontal attack. For the rest, there are simpler cars.

Well, in principle, probably so .. The tank fist of Russia needs to be created in the western direction .. And the "Armata" should go the second echelon ..
So far, only parades are prancing ..

In my opinion, some stupid man called ahead of time about Armata and went and went. According to the clever, it is necessary to conduct military trials in full, and then take them into service.

[Grazdanin]

They are doing it for sale, the T90 as in India we do not have in the army.

[K-50]

The "Merkava" seems to have a compartment in the back where up to 4 people can fit, but it is not indicated on the diagram.

[Grazdanin]

Where are the fans of the low silhouette? T14 above Abrams, Leopards, etc.

[Knell wardenheart]

The strange question is - is there any place to relieve need in this armored capsule? War is war, but people shouldn’t be forgotten about people ..

[Grazdanin]

Just like in other tanks. This can be envied by the Merkova Crew))

[vladcub]

I did not know that in Merkava dry closet.
Then on the Abram urgent hot tub, they love comfort.
Actually, in the world, I recognize only 2 tank schools, Jews are almost Nashin guys - Germany and us. Tanks are made for combat, not for driving. The rest have either overly sophisticated or imitation. As an example, South Korea with the "Black Eagle".

[Knell wardenheart]

Well, such an attitude to the issue of natural need will be fraught with additional. victims of a nuclear war or biological / chemical contamination of the area. So the question, although ridiculous, is far from idle ..

[your1970]

Quote: vladcub

only 2 tank schools,the Jews almost nashinsky guys - Germany и we

Maybe all the same 3 (!!!) schools come out? Not 2 ??? Not???

[Gambit44]

Quote: max702

It's not like moderators, here are the owners of the site Ottudova ...

And this is very not good, the Jews are still those terry Rus-haters and merge such a site to them - this is sabotage, coupled with betrayal))

[agond]

In Armata, all three crew members are seated in one line (shoulder to shoulder), which greatly limits the thickness of the side armor, I think it would make sense to remove the ammunition in the turret making it larger, and place the crew one by one in the free space, this would reduce the area of ​​the front armor plate and increase the thickness of the side plates, and the tank itself will become shorter by one rink and maybe even narrower, that is, approach the dimensions of the T-72

[Dmitry Donskoy_2]

What to compare tanks and front cars?

[Vdi73]

With this, the t-14 has already wiped the entire bald patch, it’s better to brag about how many of them are in the army, one, two, and miscalculated. Even if they buy 100 units, as they say, for such an army as the Russian, this is nothing.